Greece play the Netherlands in Eindhoven on April 28th

Here are the Greeks playing abroad who were called up:


Trianos Dellas, Takis Fyssas, Nikos Dabizas, Angelos Charisteas, Demis Nikolaidis, Zisis Vryzas, Georgios Karagounis and Stelios Giannakopoulos.
Ioannis Amanatidis has been named by Mr. Apostolakis for the U-23 match against Germany, which will be held on April 27 in Salonica.

I'm expecting Greece's unbeaten streak to end here. It should be a close game though.

lets hope they keep it up, disappointment for Zikos his performance this year with Monaco diserved a showing

Yeah, I don't know if they can beat Holland, although if they did I would be really happy.

This game could very well set the tone for how the team does in Euro 2004, so I hope they come out with a strong showing.

ELLADARA OMADARA!

We will see we will see, Greek is a very strong opponent for us and a real testcase after France (0-0).
I think we can win it here at home if we play like we did against Scotland for instance :)
But like I said, Greece has some very strong players.
I think Yannis Anastasiou, new player for Ajax is a very good player too and will be a prospect for the future :p

Originally posted by Silencer
I think Yannis Anastasiou, new player for Ajax is a very good player too and will be a prospect for the future :p

He ain't really young... he's 31 I believe, I wouldn't call him a prospect for the future. He's definately not Ajax material in my opinion...

i wish i could get Euro 2004:(

anyway i think Holland has too much class for Greece. Don't get me wrong though, Greece could easily pull an upset. But not in this match, i say Holland

Holland all the way... i think they are gonna win 3-1

it should be a good game. depends who starts the game for greece, espically our central defense. without kyriakos and kapsis it is diffuclt to field 3 who work very well together. i think it will be dabizas, dellas and goumas in the center but the problem will be lack of pace. also, please oh please bring in 2 good forwards ot the game. haristeas cant finish right now and vyzas isnt exactly tearing up the score chart either. i think to call papadopolous and then use haristeas next to him.

who do you think will start at keeper?

I heard that Papadopoulos is playing with the Olympic team. That would be too bad I'd love to see him and Nikolaidis play against the Dutch.

As for the keeper, I don't think that Otto will give up on Antonis.

I wonder if we will attack their weak defence by using Tsiartas and Karagounis both as attacking mids or play more defensively because of the strong Dutch firepower and use Karagounis(because of his workrate) as CM and have Zagorakis and Basinas as the two Defensive mids.

:rockman: :rockman: Holland !!!

Dutch squad :

Goalkeepers : Van der Sar (Fulham), Waterreus (PSV)

Defenders : Frank de Boer (Rangers), Bouma (PSV), Heiting, De Jong (both Ajax), Melchiot (Chelsea), Reiziger (Barcelona), Stam (Lazio)

Midfielders : Zenden (Middlesbrough), Van Bommel (PSV), Bosvelt (Manchester city), Cocu, Davids (both Barcelona), Seedorf (Milan), Overmars (Barcelona), Van der Vart, Sneijder (both Ajax)

Forwards : Van Hooijdonk (Fenerbahce), Makkay (Bayern Munich), Van der Meyde (Inter), Van Nistelrooy (Manchester United).

Greece national team coach, Otto Rehhagel, has called up also 22 players.

Greece squad :

Goalkeepers : Nikopolidis, Chalkias (both Panathinaikos)

Defenders : Seitaridis, Goumas (both Panathinaikos), Kapsis (AEK Athens), Dellas (Roma), Dabizas (Leicester city), Fyssas (Benfica), Venetidis (Olympiakos)

Midfielders : Basinas (Panathinaikos), Zagorakis, Katsouranis (both AEK Athens), Kafes, Georgiadis (both Olympiakos), Tsiartas, Lakis (both AEK Athens), Giannakopoulos (Bolton), Karagounis (Inter)

Forwards : Nikolaidis (Atletico Madrid), Papadopoulos (Panathinaikos), Haristeas (Werder Bremen), Vryzas (Fiorentina).

i saw a draw. greece is a better team than ppl think. why is Van der meyde out of squad and Bosvelt (???) and melchiot in?

Originally posted by Mikey
why is Van der meyde out of squad and Bosvelt (???) and melchiot in?

:confused: WTF ???? they're in...

wow, my bad, i didnt see VDM

Originally posted by dannyeli
Holland all the way... i think they are gonna win 3-1

Woah there slick.....3-1!....1-0 maybe but not three one....right now Greece is playing some of the best defense in Europe.

Nikolaidis (Atletico Madrid), Angelos Haristeas (Werder Bremen),


some of the best forwards in europe right now

hope greece wins
the match will be played on my birthday :rockman:

Originally posted by FF7
hope greece wins
the match will be played on my birthday :rockman:
Let it be happy then;)

Originally posted by Pontiakos
Nikolaidis (Atletico Madrid), Angelos Haristeas (Werder Bremen),


some of the best forwards in europe right now

haha thats a good one. neither play at their team and neither scores goals when they do play.

I expect a draw, we aren't that good and I think a lot of guys underrate Greece. They finished above Spain for godssake

Nikolaidis was having a great season until all that stuff with AEK started and they decided to bench him.
Xaristeas needs to get out of Bremen. I would like to see him team up with Amanatidis in Frankfurt. Or maybe come to Olympiakos but I'm afraid he would suffer playing in the Greek league.

Originally posted by taptone
haha thats a good one. neither play at their team and neither scores goals when they do play.

Yeah hi......Haristeas scored two goal coming off the bench two weeks ago(80') to draw a crucial game for Bremen....then they benched him!

Yeah hi....Nikolaidis has been used since he scored a tying goal a month ago(75')!

I don't think they are off their game at all, they just aren't being used because of politics on their respective teams. They shine on the national side and that is the point I was trying to make.

Greece will not roll over and die in this game.

i predict 1-1

Originally posted by Pontiakos
Yeah hi......Haristeas scored two goal coming off the bench two weeks ago(80') to draw a crucial game for Bremen....then they benched him!

Yeah hi....Nikolaidis has been used since he scored a tying goal a month ago(75')!

I don't think they are off their game at all, they just aren't being used because of politics on their respective teams. They shine on the national side and that is the point I was trying to make.

Greece will not roll over and die in this game.

Yeah Hi, Haristeas has been **** all year and to say otherwise is a bold faced lie . He might score a few off the bench, but he is not playing like a starter for Bremen. So i dont really understand how you call him one of the best in europe.

Yeah Hi Agaiiin, have you watched what nikolaidis does on the national team? he cant score in any games that are of importance. Maybe if this was 3 years ago i would say he is a great player, but he isnt now. He is the one that cost aek advancing last year in the cl you must not forget.

Haristeas and Nikolaidis are far from being some of the top european strikers, espically since they arent even the top greek strikers. papadapolous is showing he has a scent for the net which your 2 boys do not have. For the nt, i would morelikly want to see papa start with a partner of salgapiddis or amanatidis with haristeas on the bench or maybe starting next to papa depending on the style of the opposing defenders.

and i wonder what are the politics involved of not starting players who "should" be starting? is it the fact that one of them isnt as good as the others on the team? is it the fact that one has basically told the team he doesnt care about them and that hed rather just get a pay check and keep flying back to greece?

Robben and Kluvert not playing????:confused:

Originally posted by Payaah
Robben and Kluvert not playing????:confused:

Robben's injured, we'll have to see if he even makes it to Euro2k4. Kluivert has been called up again.

yes I hope Robben gets back in time we don't have anything good on the left wing now. I think we should also give van Persie a try

http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/u6170.html

finally some recognition.

Originally posted by FF7
hope greece wins
the match will be played on my birthday :rockman:
It will be played the day before my birthday!

I hope we both get our birthday wishes and see Greece come out winners of this match!

Originally posted by taptone
Yeah Hi, Haristeas has been **** all year and to say otherwise is a bold faced lie . He might score a few off the bench, but he is not playing like a starter for Bremen. So i dont really understand how you call him one of the best in europe.

Yeah Hi Agaiiin, have you watched what nikolaidis does on the national team? he cant score in any games that are of importance. Maybe if this was 3 years ago i would say he is a great player, but he isnt now. He is the one that cost aek advancing last year in the cl you must not forget.

Haristeas and Nikolaidis are far from being some of the top european strikers, espically since they arent even the top greek strikers. papadapolous is showing he has a scent for the net which your 2 boys do not have. For the nt, i would morelikly want to see papa start with a partner of salgapiddis or amanatidis with haristeas on the bench or maybe starting next to papa depending on the style of the opposing defenders.

and i wonder what are the politics involved of not starting players who "should" be starting? is it the fact that one of them isnt as good as the others on the team? is it the fact that one has basically told the team he doesnt care about them and that hed rather just get a pay check and keep flying back to greece?


Dude...you're looking at stats and not performance.

Papadopoulos can't create goals. Haristeas and Nikolaidis can. They carry the ball with confidence and with them defenders. Right now Papadopoulos has 16 goals (1st in league)......half of them are from penalties.

Numbers don't mean squat.

Right now there are no politics. Rehangel is picking the best.

i haristeas regualry along with papadapolous and ive seen my fair share with nikolaidis. hasiteas for a big striker is good but cant finish. he doesnt have the scent for the net like strong strikers. i think that it would be good to start him next to a past striker, as i dont think hes a bad player, i just dont rate him as one of the best in europe as you do.
nikolaidis is fast but again he cant finish to save his life anymore. some years ago this wasnt the case but these past few years that is the truth. have you actually watched nikolaidis in the past couple of years? he isnt the same player anymore not to mention he has always been a medicore player at best for the national team.
papdapolous is turning out to be THE player greece has been looking for. he can finish with the best of strikers and has the speed too. i assume you dont actually watch any of the players, just like to run your mouth like this or you would realize that papadapolous has yet to even take a penalty.

and dont tell me i only look at stats not performance. i watch the players play and i call it how it is. why is it then that i think the best panathinaikos player is konstaninou? he doesnt have good stats but he is one of the best on the team. i suppose you like tsartas on the national team too then .

Originally posted by Zlatan
yes I hope Robben gets back in time we don't have anything good on the left wing now. I think we should also give van Persie a try
What lineup and formation does Holland usually play with? Cant Van Der Vaart play Robben position?:confused:

Originally posted by taptone
i haristeas regualry along with papadapolous and ive seen my fair share with nikolaidis. hasiteas for a big striker is good but cant finish. he doesnt have the scent for the net like strong strikers. i think that it would be good to start him next to a past striker, as i dont think hes a bad player, i just dont rate him as one of the best in europe as you do.
nikolaidis is fast but again he cant finish to save his life anymore. some years ago this wasnt the case but these past few years that is the truth. have you actually watched nikolaidis in the past couple of years? he isnt the same player anymore not to mention he has always been a medicore player at best for the national team.
papdapolous is turning out to be THE player greece has been looking for. he can finish with the best of strikers and has the speed too. i assume you dont actually watch any of the players, just like to run your mouth like this or you would realize that papadapolous has yet to even take a penalty.

and dont tell me i only look at stats not performance. i watch the players play and i call it how it is. why is it then that i think the best panathinaikos player is konstaninou? he doesnt have good stats but he is one of the best on the team. i suppose you like tsartas on the national team too then .

ok first off......I used the penalty comment to help you understand that what makes a scorer is not the amount of goals, but whether or not he can create them....and no matter how much you run your mouth...you will not convince me papadopoulos is Greece's top striker.....Papadopoulos makes served goals, he doesn't create goals.

...as far as the tsiartas comment....Papadopoulos isn't worthy to eat Tsiartas sh*t right now.....maybe in two or three years. When papadopoulos makes 1 goal off of a set piece, then maybe you can start comparing him to players of the class of Tsiartas.

As far as how many games I watch......your comment of Kostandinou is my answer to you. Kostandinou has been the biggest waste of skin PAO have ever spent money on. If they didn't have such a huge price around his neck, Kostandinou would be back playing D2 bench with f*cking "anastasis ths manas ths pafou". And in case you didn't catch the sarcasm because of the density of your skull, I'm sure you caught by the time you reach the period at the end of this sentence

who serves papadapolous his goals? there is no play maker at the team he is doing the work he has to do. he is a finisher which is more then what you can say about most other greek striker.

class of tsartas? the guy who walks around on the field? the guy who has lost all motivation to play? you must be living in the past if you are that ignorant. and what does scoring from a direct shot on set pieces have to show what kind of striker papa is? papas job is not to go back and take free kicks.

and now you badmouth konstaniou. so i ask do you actually watch the games or just take peoples word on what happened? watch konstaninou next time. watch how he creates the goals, how he draws defenders away to open space up for papa. just because he doesnt score doesnt mean he isnt doing his job.

and im really glad you are now begining personal attacks. it shows real maturity and the fact that you just dont have much to say so why not go after me. just remember its easy to insult someone from behind a monitor.

Originally posted by Payaah
What lineup and formation does Holland usually play with? Cant Van Der Vaart play Robben position?:confused:

well the lineup is as follows(normally without any injuries):
Van der Sar
Reiziger, Stam, de Boer(Heitinga, Bouma), van Bronckhorst(Zenden, Bouma)
van Bommel(Sneijder), van der Vaart(Seedorf), Davids
Van der Meyde(Overmars), van Nistelrooij, Robben(Overmars)

Rafael is more someone as Ronaldinho playing behind the strikers but he can be a striker too and he begun indeed on the left flank but is no more the creative midfielder if you know what I mean.

Probable line-up according to VI.nl

De vermoedelijke opstelling:
Goal: Edwin van der Sar.
Defence: Johnny Heitinga, Jaap Stam, Wilfred Bouma, Giovanni van Bronckhorst.
Midfield: Clarence Seedorf, Mark van Bommel, Rafael van der Vaart, Boudewijn Zenden.
Strikers: Patrick Kluivert, Roy Makaay.

Finally a regular 4-4-2. Thank god. At least this looks like a decent line-up.

why Kluivert:kader: Put van der Vaart in front, and play Sneijder as midfielder

holland to win it 2-0.
hope van nistelrooy recovers from his so called injury and nets in a couple of goals and some form

WOW, holland is STACKED

Originally posted by mhflierman
Finally a regular 4-4-2. Thank god. At least this looks like a decent line-up.

I thought they were going to play a diamond, not regular 4-4-2.
Van Bommel at DMC, Seedorf at MR, Zenden at ML, and Van der Vaart at AMC.

Match about to kick off!:rockman: :rockman:

Holland will easily take the win here 3-1.
Does anyone if v. Nilsterooy is in the starting lineup???

No van Nistelrooy, he's out with an injury.

It's a boring game... can't really be arsed to watch it any longer.

Yea they call Kluivert up.

I'm gonna hire a killer if anyone injures Makaay. :f***:

0-0 HT.

Pretty crap match from the Dutch again.(:/)

Seedorf has been the best player for Holland and Makaay had two good headers on goal early in the match. Apart from that he has been non-existent.

Whats holland starting 11?

Originally posted by manutd4eva
Apart from that he has been non-existent. That's his usual game. He's never seen during a match and then he scores out of nowhere. :rockman:

is that match is soccerstreams.com ??? i would like to see

Well lets hope he scores then.

This match needs some spark.:(

Nah, I want them to continue their unbeaten run. C'mon Greece (H)

Originally posted by -Vince-
Nah, I want them to continue their unbeaten run. C'mon Greece (H)

You suck :) (H).

How about Germany's unbeaten run? Oh no wait, that was shattered today with 5-1...

Roy's just scored! Yay!

1-0 Holland

Makaay.

(H)

**** :f***: :Bow: Roy :f***:

Originally posted by -Vince-
**** :f***: :Bow: Roy :f***:


Don't you like Makaay all of a sudden? :(


Oh I forgot, you're a Dortmund fan now :ewan:


(H)

Originally posted by Dragan T
Don't you like Makaay all of a sudden? :(


Oh I forgot, you're a Dortmund fan now :ewan:


(H)

No Makaay is his god, he just hates to see us winning. (H)

:f***: Why am I allowed to post only once minute every minute! I can't help it that my connection is hyperfast :crazyboy: :f***:

2-0 Zenden.

Holland 2 Zenden.... NICE !!! :D

SO how long was Greece unbeaten streak?

Yes this Greek can't piss me off tomorrow. Because Greece U21 won against Germany 2:1

But the Romanian guy WILL piss me off. Same as the turk :f***:

But Holland wins :f***:
Should I cry or laugh?

3-0 Heitinga, nice :O

15 matches I think.

Zenden has turned on the heat.

3-0!!!!!!!!!!!!:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

God, it must suck to be german... (H)

Yes, 15 matches.

Originally posted by mhflierman
God, it must suck to be german... (H)
Nah it doesn't.

Originally posted by Elber2k3
Nah it doesn't.

Not even a little bit? :p (H)

looks like Greece made a big mistake changing 5 players at half time :p

Watch your words Maarten........you might get invaded again :D


:crazyboy: (H)

3-0 Let's go Holland !!!! Kick some ass :hump:

Originally posted by mhflierman
Not even a little bit? :p (H)
No :crazyboy:
The Women won 6:0 against Ukraine and our Ice Hockey team is trailing the czechs 2:1, that's not bad.
BUT I CAN'T WATCH THE MATCH ******* TV COMPANY

4-0 (:/)
Van Hooijdonk.

It was a free kick wasn't it. Van hooijdonk it top class in free kicks.

Yes!(H)

Seedorf and Zenden share the man of the match for me.:rockman:

:D :D :D :rockman: :rockman: Holland...

Originally posted by dannyeli
:D :D :D :rockman: :rockman: Holland...

Agree thats an awesome team. Too bad Patrick Kluivert won't be with them much longer he is class.

Final result... holland won 4-0 excelent game and give holland confident heading to the Eurocup

Originally posted by QuikZilver
It was a free kick wasn't it. Van hooijdonk it top class in free kicks.

It was a free kick from the right side of the pitch. Zenden brought it in to the far end of the box and Van Hooijdonk finished very professionally.

very good second half from Holland. (Y)

Good to see Zenden playing well too(H)

Zenden was my man of the match, Seedorf had a great game as well (finally). I can't understand why the bigger clubs aren't more interested in Zenden...

Yeeaaahhhh
Where Can I see The Goal From Pierre van Hooijdonk???
Sorry For My Bad English

PPPIIII---AAIIIRRRRR VAAANN HOOOIIIJJDDOONNNKKK.

lol......PI-AIR 17, you celebrating just because the Greek got thrashed?

It's obviously because Pierre scored. Not because Greece got trashed.

I don't think they got trashed, though. The win was deserved, but 4-0 was too much.

Next up Belgium at the end of may :p
We should win that one too......yeah still unbeaten (H)

At German TV (ZDF) They never stopped repeating that Greece collapsed because of the subs at half time :D but they forgot Greece did that too in the other 15 unbeaten matches.
Holland just played faster and more aggressive in the second half.
Well played Holland! (H)

Wow....we got our asses handed to us.....lets hope this isn't a sign of things to come......Good Work Holland......Deserved the Win...Greece played like crap in the second...


......hey panatha.....where the f*ck was Papadopoulos....looks like he got his ass handed to him...

Forza Netherlands!! (H)

Originally posted by Han
At German TV (ZDF) They never stopped repeating that Greece collapsed because of the subs at half time :D but they forgot Greece did that too in the other 15 unbeaten matches.

Well actually you can't sub 5 players at half in non friendly games. Rehhagel started with his best team and they showed what they are capable of doing. Their bench players are not out of the same class.

Originally posted by -Vince-
Well actually you can't sub 5 players at half in non friendly games. Rehhagel started with his best team and they showed what they are capable of doing. Their bench players are not out of the same class. Ah, my good friend Vince, how are you since last night? :D The point I tried to make was that the ZDF tried very hard to bring down the good result of Holland ;)

Didn't they also say Holland and the Czechs are the favourites in our group? ;)

You mean Beckenbauer? He talked too fast for me and I thought he was talking about the Czechs only, reaching the semi's...:confused:

anybody got a video of game highlights?

Originally posted by Han
You mean Beckenbauer? He talked too fast for me and I thought he was talking about the Czechs only, reaching the semi's...:confused:
Nah, the commentator during the match.

Probably in the first half? I watched it then at SBS6, I started to watch it for fun in the second at ZDF and Holland then scored immediatly so I decided to stay at the ZDF :D

Nope, in the 2nd half. They couldn't show the first half due to the game in Romania...

Oh, then I missed it :o

Originally posted by Yossarian
lol......PI-AIR 17, you celebrating just because the Greek got thrashed?

Yeeaaahhh thats Right.
But Too That Pierre van Hooijdonk Scored The Goal.

SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH

turks dont like greeks. one of friends is greek and he HATES all turkish ppl. good stuff.

:rockman:

Thats better after the France game. Lets continue this form to euro :mrpimp:

Nice game for boudewijn. Only Chelsea player to have won silverware this season, and its good to see him play good after a shocking season at chelsea last year.

Loving those white shirts too :)

http://www.knvb.nl/livepicserver.sps?fif=/knvb/001506.fpx&obj=iip,1.0&wid=195&cvt=jpeg

Give Not Video Grom This Game?????

How did Karagounis do, Greece fans?

Originally posted by PI-AIR 17
Yeeaaahhh thats Right.
But Too That Pierre van Hooijdonk Scored The Goal.

SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH


all I have to say to you is .......LATVIA........shhhhhhh...quiet down

Originally posted by Mikey
turks dont like greeks. one of friends is greek and he HATES all turkish ppl. good stuff.

yeah ..............:fluffy:GREAT STUFF.......:fluffy: (Y) (Y)

Originally posted by Pontiakos
all I have to say to you is .......LATVIA........shhhhhhh...quiet down
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yes, we Greeks don't like Turks, and they don't like us. I have a few Turkish friends, but still, in general I don't like them.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that the starting team was able to keep the 0-0 against Holland for the whole first half. That made me a little proud. And well, losing 4-0, all I can say is thank God this happened now in a friendly, than in the actual tournament when it really matters.

My optimism for Greece in the Euro tournament is still high!

whenever i ask him why he goes on about how turkey isnt even really part of europe, and only a REALLY small part is actually part of europe

im actually a small part greek, so ya, my hatred is only minimal;)

Originally posted by Mikey
whenever i ask him why he goes on about how turkey isnt even really part of europe, and only a REALLY small part is actually part of europe

im actually a small part greek, so ya, my hatred is only minimal;)
Hahah that's hilarious. But let's keep this a thread about the game and not Greek-Turkish relations ;)

Originally posted by Hristos
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yes, we Greeks don't like Turks, and they don't like us. I have a few Turkish friends, but still, in general I don't like them.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that the starting team was able to keep the 0-0 against Holland for the whole first half. That made me a little proud. And well, losing 4-0, all I can say is thank God this happened now in a friendly, than in the actual tournament when it really matters.

My optimism for Greece in the Euro tournament is still high!

now that i reviewed the lineups again....you're right the 1st team did keep it 0-0..

Turkey Has Better Player And Better League Than Greece.

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Don't start this debate, and close a decent thread.

Originally posted by PI-AIR 17
Turkey Has Better Player And Better League Than Greece.

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

well, when you put it that way, i guess i agree:rolleyes:

go holland.they look very strong and fav for euro 2004 for me

Originally posted by The Lionheart.
Don't start this debate, and close a decent thread.

well said