Baggio is going to play! Does anyone know where to see it in North America?

should be a nice match, but it seems a lot of nice players are not playing, like Nesta, Totti, Puyol, etc

Baggio is playing!?! That's great

Damn TLN and RAI :f***: :f***: :f***:

No game in Canada.

This is going to be Baggio's last game for Italy :( I hope Baggio goes out with a bang.


The stadium was sold out more than 2 weeks ago.


Totti won't be playing.


Can't wait (H) I'll watch it on an online webcast.

NO SHOWING IN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!! noooooooooooooooooooooo

**** rai and tln. they havent shown the last 2-3 games, there dropping the ball

i dont know how but i will watch baggio's last international

Originally posted by IceBlu
I'll watch it on an online webcast.

which one??

Going to local Italian Club;)

Originally posted by claupastore
which one??


im sure i'll find something when the game is on. Too early to find one now.

raisport might show it, but i dunno im not too sure either

Originally posted by Mikey
Going to local Italian Club;)

same here(H)

do you need a subscription to watch it? and when is the game?

The game will be played next wednesday, and RAI International ARE showing the game live.

Wed Apr 28 02:50PM Eastern
Length: 2 hr 10 min LIVE
RAI International - North America feed (DISH Network, Digital Cable)
International Friendly/Partido Amistoso - Europe/Europa
Italy/Italia vs Spain/Espana

anywhere else? i dont get rai :(

wouldve been nice to see Totti and Baggio playing together.:(

:::: Spain Squad :::::

Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Santiago Canizares (Valencia)

Defenders: Juanito (Betis), Ivan Helguera (Real Madrid), Carlos Marchena (Valencia), Michel Salgado (Real Madrid), Manuel Pablo (Deportivo Coruna), Raul Bravo (Real Madrid)

Midfielders: Joseba Etxeberria (Athletic Bilbao), Juan Carlos Valeron (Deportivo Coruna), Xabi Alonso (Real Sociedad), Ruben Baraja (Valencia), Vicente (Valencia), David Albelda (Valencia), Xavi (Barcelona), Joaquin (Betis)

Forwards: Raul (Real Madrid), Fernando Torres (Atletico Madrid), Fernando Morientes (Monaco),

Italian Squad......(who cares about spain in here :rolleyes: )

Portieri: Buffon, Peruzzi;

Difensori: F. Cannavaro, Favalli, Ferrari, Legrottaglie, Materazzi, Oddo, Panucci, Zambrotta;

Centrocampisti: Ambrosini, Diana, Fiore, Nervo, Perrotta, Pirlo;

Attaccanti: R. Baggio, Corradi, Di Vaio, Miccoli, Vieri.

you beat me to it;)

2-2

Morientes & Raul
vs.
Baggio & Vieri

Come On Baggio (H)

Why is Reyes not on the squad?

i dont really care how the game ends, i just want robbie to do some of his magic and ill be happy :)

I wonder if Trap will use him as a second forward to Vieri, or in the 'trequartista' role behind two strikers.

My lineup would be:

:::::::::: Vieri :::::: Miccoli ::::::::::::
:::::::::: :Bow:Baggio:::::::::::::::
:::::: Perrotta :::::::::: Fiore::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::Pirlo:::::::::::::::::
Zambrotta ::: Cannavaro ::: Ferrari ::: Panucci ::
:::::::::::::: Buffon ::::::::::::::::

Good luck to Baggio. I hope he ends his international career on a high note. I will always remember him as "The Divine Ponytail," as he was called when I first learned of him.

Originally posted by bjmenge
Good luck to Baggio. I hope he ends his international career on a high note. I will always remember him as "The Divine Ponytail," as he was called when I first learned of him.

he is still called that

i dont see baggio playing in the trequartista, he is more of a striker. always has been. this is the way i see the lineup

:::::::::: Vieri :::::: Baggio ::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::Miccoli:::::::::::::::::::::::
:::::: Perrotta :::::::::: Fiore::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::Pirlo:::::::::::::::::
Zambrotta ::: Cannavaro ::: Ferrari ::: Panucci ::
:::::::::::::: Buffon ::::::::::::::::

but i see italia playing the 4-2-3-1

:::::::::::::::::::::::Vieri:::::::::::::::::::::: ::::
::::Miccoli:::::::::Baggio:::::::::Fiore::::::::::
::::::::::::Pirlo::::::::::::Perrotta::::::::::::: ::
::Zambrotta::Ferrari::Cannavaro::Panucci::
::::::::::::::::::::::Buffon:::::::::::::::::::::: :::

great to see robbie go out on the international scene
ive been waiting for this moment since 99, when baggio last played for italy
italy 3-0 spain
baggio 3trick

I dont think Baggio will score unless Italy get a set piece

I'd sure like him to

Btw,

No Roma players? :kader:

Wait there's Panucci but..?

:|

He doesnt deserve a callup anymore

Reyes wasnt called up cos he changed clubs and they wanted to give him to find his feet in england well that was the reason before but this is just a friendly game i thought theyd want to give him a run before Euro 2004

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
I dont think Baggio will score unless Italy get a set piece

I'd sure like him to



what makes him have more chance of scoring from a set piece?
he is a good FK taker, but not a beckham
his brilliance comes when he has the ball at his feet
im guessing every second pass will be played to him aswell

he isnt a natural goalscorer

he scores a few now and then but as you say he's best with the ball at his feet

this maybe means that he will be the one handing out the final pass and not on the receiving end of one

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
he isnt a natural goalscorer





:rolleyes: :rofl: :rofl: :funny:

No Italy on Sky Sports or Eurosport, thats gay. :|

Sky Sports -
Poland v Republic of Ireland (KO 17.00)
Denmark v Scotland (KO 19.00)
Portugal v Sweden (KO 21.15)

Eurosport -
Morocco v Argentina

:kader:

I'll probably watch the Portugal game instead.

would you put him on the same wave with Trezeguet, Inzaghi or Ruud?

Thats what I meant

I wouldn't put him in the same group as Trez, Ruud or Pippo because it would be an insult to Baggio.


Baggio is a Del Piero or Totti like player and all 3 of them are goalscorers.

Originally posted by Sevillista
Why is Reyes not on the squad?

REYES' SPAIN PAIN

Arsenal striker Jose Reyes admits his joy at winning the Barclaycard Premiership title has been tempered by his fall from favour with Spain coach Inaki Saez.

Reyes scored twice for his country against Armenia in October's Euro 2004 qualifying game and appeared to have secured his place in Saez's squad for this summer's championships in Portugal.

But since then the Seville-born striker, who joined the Gunners from his hometown club for an initial £10.5million in January, has been omitted from Saez's last two squads and has seen his friend Joaquin Sanchez called up to replace the injured Luis Garcia for tomorrow's clash with Italy.

"I am really glad they called Joaquin up," Reyes told Radio Marca.

"Since I have been in England, I have stopped existing in Spain. I haven't wondered what would have happened if I had continued at Sevilla, but it isn't something that worries me too much."

Nevertheless, Reyes admitted he was happy in London and was full of praise for Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.

"He is a great coach. I came to Arsenal with the idea of adapting to English football," said Reyes.

"I think he has helped me do that and we have even won the title - something I am not used to doing. I am surprised by the pace of the English game, it's much faster than Spain."


----------------------
bah..anyway hope its great match...I think its gonna be 2-2 draw with lots of attacking going on...

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
would you put him on the same wave with Trezeguet, Inzaghi or Ruud?

Thats what I meant

please dont tell me u were trying to say that baggio isnt in as igher class as them

he is a potent goal scorer like those three, but just as creative as a totti
once the ball gets around the penalty area, he can do anything with it

I hope that Zlatan swoops down on the stadium on a parachute and scores 4 goals (two on each of the teams net)

Originally posted by Yossarian
I hope that Zlatan swoops down on the stadium on a parachute and scores 4 goals (two on each of the teams net)

:rolleyes: :kader:

Originally posted by IceBlu
I wouldn't put him in the same group as Trez, Ruud or Pippo because it would be an insult to Baggio.


Baggio is a Del Piero or Totti like player and all 3 of them are goalscorers.
Totti isnt a goalscorer, thats something sorta of new of him this season, but I think Baggio looks more in his style of play to Del Piero with more technique and goal scoring ability, do you agree?

exactly

I didnt say he's on the same level as Trez etc, Im saying he is better

My point is that he is unlikely to score since he isnt the "striker" kind who waits for the ball etc

If he does score, expect it to be a brilliant goal

Baggio won't score :)

Spain must win. We have enough team to beat Italy without problems. The only doubt it's the spanish coach, the worst ever.

Baggio has scored 200+ Serie A goals . Yeah he isn't a "natural" goalscorer :rolleyes:

Totti has scored 100 + serie A goals .... So yeah he isn't a goalscorer.


......

16 goals this season, second top scorer. To score is not his main work but he scores a lot of goals. Great player. I'm talking about Totti, of course.

you still dont understand what Im trying to point out

that may be because of my lack of English so nevermind....

Originally posted by Dream Team
16 goals this season, second top scorer. To score is not his main work but he scores a lot of goals. Great player. I'm talking about Totti, of course.

Totti already has 20 league goals this season :crazyboy:

I understand what you're saying ... you mean that Baggio isn't a poacher like Inzaghi or Ruud but does that really matter ?

What matters is that he is capable of scoring against anyone.

So you're silly argument about him not scoring unless he gets a set pieces goes out the window.

He may not score, but that doesn't mean he can't :rolleyes:


comprende ?

I didnt say he cant

Its more of the unlikely-ness if compared againts the poachers, who in this case, will be Vieri

So what Im saying is that if someone were to score, it will most likely be Vieri..

Lets just stop arguing.. I get ur point myself..

Baggio is a forward, not a striker, that means he creates his own chances, creates chances for others and poaches the occasional goal.

Do you guys think that if he shines tommorrow there's a chance for Trap to take him to the Euro? That would be great...

Nah, I really doubt that

This is his "goodbye" game anyway

Originally posted by Virgo


Do you guys think that if he shines tommorrow there's a chance for Trap to take him to the Euro? That would be great...



Nope. (:/)

Originally posted by Dream Team
Baggio won't score :)

Spain must win. We have enough team to beat Italy without problems. The only doubt it's the spanish coach, the worst ever.


can you also tell us which coutries will start the 3rd world war, and who will win it?? also i would like to know how many casualties will come out of it??

:kader:

sure spain would want to win, so they can at least say "we beat italy in a frendily, but can do sh!t on real tournaments" :)

Originally posted by claupastore
can you also tell us which coutries will start the 3rd world war, and who will win it??Only one country is sure, USA. :)


Baggio won't score ;) :mrpimp:

It's official:

http://www.televideo.rai.it/nazionale/homenaz.asp?Sezione=Ultimora&currentStep=2&tlv=222

(Warning: this is a dynamic page, in a few minutes the content can change cause it's the text showed on the italian televisions)


4-3-1-2

---------------------Buffon-----------------------

Panucci-Cannavaro-Materazzi-Zambrotta

------- Fiore-------Pirlo--------Perrotta-------

------------------R.Baggio-----------------------

--------------Vieri--------Di Vaio----------------


Most probably Di Vaio will play wide on the left.

I hope Baggio tears up the field tomorrow. Damn, such a shame he must go, but people age, and we must face it :).

U-21 note

ITALY-Sweden 1-0

9min GILARDINO

ITALY- Sweden 2-0

27min GILARDINO :rockman:

Come home to Juve baby. :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:


After the goal he got subbed for precaution reasons.

Originally posted by italianstyle87
please dont tell me u were trying to say that baggio isnt in as igher class as them

he is a potent goal scorer like those three, but just as creative as a totti
once the ball gets around the penalty area, he can do anything with it

you've got it all wrong, totti and del piero are like baggio, baggio's not like them, that's why he's the divine one;)

If I were to put my money on a winner it would have to go to Spain. You may have Totti and Del Piero but we have Raul and Morientes. You may have Buffon but we have Casillas. It will be a good match.

Originally posted by maraujo1
If I were to put my money on a winner it would have to go to Spain. You may have Totti and Del Piero but we have Raul and Morientes. You may have Buffon but we have Casillas. It will be a good match.


no, we don't have totti and DP, they aren't playing:rolleyes:

Ummm well Vieri and Baggio then. Baggio was a great player and I hope he gets the send off he deserves. Its a good thing Luis Enrique isnt playing as to avoid any misguided elbows to the cranium lol.

Originally posted by maraujo1
If I were to put my money on a winner it would have to go to Spain. You may have Totti and Del Piero but we have Raul and Morientes. You may have Buffon but we have Casillas. It will be a good match.
I wouldnt be very sure...
I think Italy is gonna win, and I say 3-1 (Spain will start winning)

ha you compare Totti to Raúl? Totti is better, and Del Piero and Morientes, del Piero is better...although Casillas is better than Buffon (or atleast right now)

When is Saez gonna call new players? Why the hell is Raúl in every NT selection? Why hasnt Mista been called? and del Horno? and Reyes? and other great players that have been in great form that cant get a chance in the NT because Saez keeps calling players like Raul Bravo and Gabri...

Hope Italy wins and Baggio scores...

*Im Spanish btw

I'm expecting a very boring game, it seems everytime I think the Italians are going to bring a good game, it's just defensive play.

0-0 or 0-1 Spain.

pfft you're just sore that Portugal get beat by Italy every single time (H) :p

ya, i didnt expect a comment like that from a portuguese

Originally posted by -William-
I wouldnt be very sure...
I think Italy is gonna win, and I say 3-1 (Spain will start winning)

ha you compare Totti to Raúl? Totti is better, and Del Piero and Morientes, del Piero is better...although Casillas is better than Buffon (or atleast right now)

When is Saez gonna call new players? Why the hell is Raúl in every NT selection? Why hasnt Mista been called? and del Horno? and Reyes? and other great players that have been in great form that cant get a chance in the NT because Saez keeps calling players like Raul Bravo and Gabri...

Hope Italy wins and Baggio scores...

*Im Spanish btw

Raul = 3 champions league and top scorer in the history of champions league and spain.

Morientes = actually the top scorer of Champions league 2004 and winner of 3 champions League

Totti = a cute forward ...
Del Piero = always injured

I mean to say Totti > Raul is so stupid as saying X > X

Just count the goals of Raul + Morientes in big events like World cup or Eurocup, they beat so easy Del Piero + Totti

I think Raul is better than Totti, he's just having a really bad season. And Del Piero being better than Morientes is just plain wrong. Morientes is a guy who has been wasting his talent in Madrid's bench and then after going to Monaco becomes the leading goalscorer of the CL and influences his team for the better. Casillas is great but in my opinion Buffon is still the best goalie in the world.

lets not start a useless debate about something that doesn't matter.

This is about Baggio, let it remain that way.

Originally posted by IceBlu
lets not start a useless debate about something that doesn't matter.

This is about Baggio, let it remain that way.

true. im off to play football tomorrow before the game, 3 hours, going to rip it baggio-style :).

is there anywhere on the internet where you see this game?

Trap door open for Baggio


GENOA, Italy, April 27 (Reuters) - Italy coach Giovanni Trapattoni refused on Tuesday to rule out the possibility that former world player of the year Roberto Baggio could yet make the Italian squad for Euro 2004 in June.

Playmaker Baggio, 37, is set to make his first appearance for Italy in five years when he lines up against Spain in a friendly on Wednesday in what had been billed as a farewell match.

Trapattoni told a news conference on Tuesday that Baggio's call-up, a month before he is due to retire from the game, was an 'act of recognition' for his achievements.

However, when pressed about Baggio's future, the Italy coach said: 'The future is in the hands of God. Roberto knows this is a long story that has been going on for two and a half to three years,' said Trapattoni.

'I have always left the door open and today he is here which is significant in itself.'

The Italy coach did, however, remind his audience that there was a squad of players who had led Italy to qualification for the finals which start in Portugal on June 12.

'In life you can never say never,' said Trapattoni. 'But (the decision) won't be on the basis of the media because if I listened to the media there would be 30 players in the squad and 10 million different formations.'

POUR WATER

Baggio, who has scored 27 goals in 55 Italy appearances, said he was proud to return to the Italy side at such a late stage in his career and he was clearly pleased at Trapattoni's words.

'I am very happy and I want to thank the boss and the Federation for giving me this chance,' he said. 'It is a great moment. If there is something else, well...but I want to enjoy this moment.

'Never say never means a lot to me even if I know I mustn't kid myself,' said the former Juventus forward.

While clearly not wanting to pour water on talk of a dramatic call-up, Baggio said that at the moment he was not reconsidering his decision to retire at the end of the season.

'No, today not. It wasn't an easy decision to take but it has been done,' he said.

However, when asked if a return to Serie A for Fiorentina, the club who gave him his first chance in the top flight, would tempt him to return to the Florence side for one more season.

Baggio said: 'It is really pleasing and gives me great satisfaction to hear people talking about such a prospect but no, the decision is almost definite.'

Trapattoni faced popular pressure to call up Baggio before the World Cup two years ago but the player's injury problems led him to rule out the possibility of taking 'The Divine Ponytail' to South Korea and Japan.

The Italy coach, though, rejected the popular view that he had snubbed Baggio.

'He was never closed out. We spoke about 15 days before (the squad announcement) and we had lunch together. There are a lot of things that you don't know about,' said Trapattoni.

'Roberto was with me for three years at Juventus and he always played,' he added.

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

This made my day. Hopefully it doesnt all depend on his performance tommorow.

Naa hes just saying that to get fans excited. Trap won't choose Baggio again :(

he picked di livio last time (?????????), and actually played him. But ya, whys he so pro-Baggio now, and gave him no chance at WC?

simply

trap lost it a long time ago ;)
after he left juve to be more exact

now he is just a dumb coach

Originally posted by Crusad3r
Raul = 3 champions league and top scorer in the history of champions league and spain.

Morientes = actually the top scorer of Champions league 2004 and winner of 3 champions League

Totti = a cute forward ...
Del Piero = always injured

I mean to say Totti > Raul is so stupid as saying X > X

Just count the goals of Raul + Morientes in big events like World cup or Eurocup, they beat so easy Del Piero + Totti


this is probably the stupidest post i think i have seen, sure Raul is a world class striker, morientes is nothing special but to say that Raul is better than Totti is a stretch

Totti is entering the prime of his career, at the moment he is at the top of the football world with the likes of thierry henry. Raul is having a bad year and is on the downslide of his career, totti has plenty of time to gain those accolades. and if he ever goes to real madrid he will double any accomplishment that raul could ever have accomplished.

totti would be much more valuable to a team because he can score and set up goals better than raul could ever or will ever do

TOTTI > RAUL, emphatically, ask anyone in the forum, who would you want, raul or totti

drop it, thats just silly, thats ignorant, they're ignorants

;)

Originally posted by Mikey
ya, i didnt expect a comment like that from a portuguese

you make it seem like you freakin owned us and actually dominated the whole game.

I think Spain has more talent in their squad atm in every attacking position, but that's only my opinion.

but we won didnt we? :)

yeah but why does everyone feel the need to bash on us when we lose? It's like we can't express opinions because our NT lost a game... that's plain stupid

nobody was bashin man :)
sal goode ;)

I remember watching Roberto Baggio in the 94 world cup and just being amazed by him. If he were to get called up for Euro 2004 i would be so happy.

I also think that Baggio should play and try to be called up for Euro 2004. If he doesn't then he should hang his boots. It would be better to go out after a major competition, or atleast thats how I would see/do it.

same for maldini. we need that bastard

Roberto Baggio :Bow: :Bow: :Bow:

Originally posted by claupastore
same for maldini. we need that bastard

Nah, we have Marco "The Matress" Materazzi. :crazyboy:

Originally posted by mark77
Nah, we have Marco "The Matress" Materazzi. :crazyboy:

oh my god, please i beg you pleeease, tell me that you are kidding :(

Of course Clap, look at the smilie.

you scared me :p :crazyboy:

Originally posted by claupastore
drop it, thats just silly, thats ignorant, they're ignorants

;) Your arguments are so wise :Bow:

Learn to respect other opinions. If you have no arguments to answer him then you are the ignorant.

Originally posted by Dream Team
Your arguments are so wise :Bow:

Learn to respect other opinions. If you have no arguments to answer him then you are the ignorant.

you dont even know what im saying :rolleyes:

nobody knows what you're saying dude

good, then nobody should care

Originally posted by Mikey
ya, i didnt expect a comment like that from a portuguese
When I see the Italian national team play a beautiful game of football, you'll have a point. Till' then, don't be paranoid. :) Italians know how to win football games, but only through defensive parameters. The only time this season I've seen an Italian side actually attack, and even that took the team half-time to accomplish, was the Inter-Benfica Second Leg at the San Siro. Winning is winning, but I'd take much more pride knowing my team plays a watchable game than whether my team can defend for extensive periods and win. That's my outlook.

Side note: Good luck to Baggio, maybe he can make this game more exciting than it will inevitably be (boring).

Italy Wales (4-0)
Milan depor - first leg
Inter Arsenal - first game
Juve Olympiakos - (7-0)

Italy beating portugal twice in a row (Y)

good thing you know wat youre talking about (Y)

and youre gonna say 'watchable game', porto-depor was the worst game of this years CL games. and when youre resorting to calling a team 'boring' as an excuse, thats pretty bad.

i dont wanna start an argument as this is thread about italy-spain, and more importantly Baggio.

i hope italy lose.

i say Italy 1-2 Spain

Originally posted by IceBlu
lets not start a useless debate about something that doesn't matter.

This is about Baggio, let it remain that way.

ok then i will start a new thread

nonsense is deleting posts than you dont like it,

No you dipsh*t.

This game is different from most other games. All im saying is - Shut up about the Totti - Raul crap.

I think before a Italy vs Spain match, is not stupid to talk about his strikers. you must be what we call in spain "amargado de la vida"

Why would i be bitter ?

I told you not to crap the thread and thats what you are doing nutsack.



(Kader, check pm)

Originally posted by Crusad3r
I think before a Italy vs Spain match, is not stupid to talk about his strikers. you must be what we call in spain "amargado de la vida"


you must be what we call in venezuela "pelabolas y huevon"



:crazyboy:
j/k

Originally posted by Aveirenses
When I see the Italian national team play a beautiful game of football, you'll have a point. Till' then, don't be paranoid. :) Italians know how to win football games, but only through defensive parameters. The only time this season I've seen an Italian side actually attack, and even that took the team half-time to accomplish, was the Inter-Benfica Second Leg at the San Siro. Winning is winning, but I'd take much more pride knowing my team plays a watchable game than whether my team can defend for extensive periods and win. That's my outlook.

Side note: Good luck to Baggio, maybe he can make this game more exciting than it will inevitably be (boring).


Roma has 67 goals in 31 games, you wanna say attacking?

they've beat teams like juve and inter, 4-0, and 4-1......Italian sides don't attack? i pity you :(

Originally posted by claupastore
you must be what we call in venezuela "pelabolas y huevon"


:boohoo: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thanks clau... there're no better words to discribe it. :funny:

Originally posted by dannyeli
:boohoo: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thanks clau... there're no better words to discribe it. :funny:


aye (H)

hey go to the jamaica-venezuela thread! :hump:

Originally posted by claupastore
When I see the Italian national team play a beautiful game of football, you'll have a point. Till' then, don't be paranoid. Italians know how to win football games, but only through defensive parameters. The only time this season I've seen an Italian side actually attack, and even that took the team half-time to accomplish, was the Inter-Benfica Second Leg at the San Siro. Winning is winning, but I'd take much more pride knowing my team plays a watchable game than whether my team can defend for extensive periods and win. That's my outlook.


man have you watched roma or ac milan at all this year

Originally posted by claupastore
Roma has 67 goals in 31 games, you wanna say attacking?

they've beat teams like juve and inter, 4-0, and 4-1......Italian sides don't attack? i pity you
__________________


agreed

Originally posted by modena_10
man have you watched roma or ac milan at all this year

hey i didnt say that :confused:

hmm interesting, is the quote thing messed up cause you didnt say that

spooky :o

sorry Paulocas posted that

Ummmmmm Go Spain.....I guess. (hopes to not get any verbal bashing from anyone).Oh and whoever said that Morientes wasn't anything special, I beg to differ. Being on the Madrid and Spanish Nt teams bench he probably has scored more goals than Totti. (referring to last year's season and World Cup.)

O as regards to the Raul vs. Totti thread, Raul's natural position (or the position he started at when he broke all of Madrid's B and C teams' records) was attacking center midfielder which was where he was going to go if Madrid bought van Nistlerooy or Owen.

i stand by my comment, morientes is a good player but i dont see him as anything special. just my opinion

i see a special player as who makes a large impact in a side game in game out and without them that team is lost. i see players like totti, henry, nedved, zidane etc. as those special players

i bet morientes has scored more goals than zidane or nedved, goals dont necessarily mean what a player means to a team

Originally posted by modena_10
man have you watched roma or ac milan at all this year

(Y)

Good luck on Sunday :)

Btw, you guys think Baggio will get #10?

he is wearing no10, no totti
and even he totti was playing i suspect baggio would still have the #10

Cmon Spain, I say 2-2 though

Baggio + Vieri

Raul + Morientes

Morientes is a great striker, Totti is a great player, they play in positions that complement each other, Totti sets up the plays and Morientes finish them.

And regarding the "other" thread, Raul came from Atletico Madrid's inferior teams and was bought by Real.

yeah becos the stupid president of Atletico

He wanted to save money and got rid of their youth team haha

is their no video feed for this game?

can't find anything yet :(

My prediction
Spain 1- Italy 1
a draw/tie

Ohh yeah any one where I can watch the game here in the US.

When is it starting?

Originally posted by mark77
When is it starting? Half hour. 19:00 GMT.
I hope it is a good match :corn:

thanks mate

Fuc*in' TLN. I can't believe they can't get a deal with RAI to show the freekin game. :f***:

well guys, im off to the italian club to watch game. Sorry you guys couldnt see it. Ciao ragazzi.

Baggio is almost crying.

Very good pre-match. 10/10 to italian supporters.

The game has started.

i cant believe that i cant watch this game, i think im gonna cry

well im not really but it really sucks that i cant watch it

i guess a netcast will have to do, does anyone know of any other quality netcasts???

Goal of Spain. Disallowed, offside.

Robbed, ... It was a legal goal

was it actually a goal

i hate this

HT

Spain dominated the first half, almost totally. They had enough occasions to be 1 or 2 goals ahead.

The second half will be a different game because there will be a lot of substitutions.

The best players of the first half: Xabi Alonso for Spain and Baggio for Italy.

1st half is over, spain have been dangerous and have been dominating, only a few glimpses of baggio, italy have to step it up

http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/19352italia1.jpg

He showed them how to play here :Bow: :Bow:
http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/17628italia2.jpg
http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/11180italia3.jpg:Bow:

where did you get the pictures from

http://www.sports.it/it/calcio/

thanks

that webcast is alot more indepth than gazzetta.it

They update almost every minute.

actually now that i look at it more, there about the same

2nd half, here we go

baggio is the captain now that cannavaro has been subbed off,

classy move

Goal Torres 0-1

Valerón to Torres
Torres goal



Raul, go home please you need to rest this summer

Torres 1-0

1-0 to spain and the deserved it, hopefully thats the kick in the ass that italy needs to play well

Goal Vieri 1-1

Vieri scores
1-1

ahahahahahahaha, vieri goal, 1-1, it was a kick in the ass

ooh good game!

Raul+Morientes=ok..
Valerón+Torres=class (H)


With these defenders, we don't pass even the first round of Portugal :ewan:

almost baggio score.... that could've been great

dont worry it will come

if they build it, they will come :)

that's all for Baggio what a great player.... i wish the best for him :Bow: Baggio

miccoli for baggio, damn miccoli should be proud of that
c'mon miccoli give us some of your magic! :hump:

why take baggio off????????????

miccoli better win the game for us

so he can received a standing ovation...

FT 1-1

Torres and Vieri

no injuries & entertaining match
what more could you ask for?

i wish i could've seen it :(
but looks like good game though

he could have received a standing ovation at the end of the game, the rest of the players could have left the field to leave him on the stage where he made himself famous

Yea sounds great, wasnt on British Tv for me!

How did Roberto get on?

Think he'll go to Euro?

Funny how there are ppl like that about eh?

Baggio Italy, Shearer England, Larsson Sweden

Who are all retired from International but are being asked to come back :hump:

you forgot maldini

Originally posted by claupastore
you forgot maldini

Yeap :rockman: he's the best (at his position)

other pics

http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/is6.jpg
http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/is7.jpg
http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/is9.jpg

i just got my italy jersey with #7 Del Piero!
It rocks :D :hump:

Originally posted by Amdy Faye
Yea sounds great, wasnt on British Tv for me!

How did Roberto get on?

Think he'll go to Euro?

Funny how there are ppl like that about eh?

Baggio + Maldini (how could i forget!) Italy, Shearer England, Larsson Sweden

Who are all retired from International but are being asked to come back :hump:

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ap_photo/20040428/all/l1110787.jpg
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/ap_photo/20040428/all/l1110769.jpg

Don't forget about Roy Keane and Ireland.

well how did Baggio do? and be true please...

I listened the game on the radio and he played a good game even with an injured leg. He couldn't run fast and take corners or long free kicks but his passes and ball control were TOTAL CLASS. He almost scored with a header.

italy's best player in the first half
showed some old magic
died out a bit in the second, but still good
probably the best player in conjuction with zambrotta for italy

in the post match interview, baggio said this was his most memorable match, and it will stay in his heart forever

yeah....he seems like a cool dude. I watched this marathon tribute show to him not long ago on RAI (in italian, and I don't speak a word of the language although I'm starting classes soon) and I enjoyed every bit of it even though I didn't understand a single word


not just the highlights, you know? I enjoyed the whole thing, man

man, baggio is goddamn class. there are no words to desrcibe it, he just owns everything and everyone.

I actually got to see the game. I sympathize with all of u who didnt. Nothing about this game mattered really, except baggio. When he came off, all the ppl at the bar gave him an ovation as well. good times. Immediatly when Miccoli came on he created a scoring chance. Hes moved ahead of Cassano on pecking order.

good players::

Spain
---------
Vicente
Torres
Exteberria - first time i ever saw him play. impressed.
Joaquin - why doesnt he start?????
Juanito
Xabi Alonso

Italy
---------
Zambrotta
Vieri (didnt get many passes, but scored a powerful goal)
Fiore
Ferarri
Pirlo - great passes all day
:Bow: Baggio

off days

Spain
---------
Raul Bravo
Raul - only his reputation keeps him in starting lineup
Morientes

Italy
--------
Pirlo - was trying to deke players in front of 18 yrd box, happend like 3 times.
Materazzi
Di Vaio - when he was replaced, and baggio was placed as a striker italy started to play a lot better.

This game confirmed wat every Italian wanted to see. Baggio has a place in 'La Nazionale', and should be in Portugal. He deserves it more than DP and Cassano do.

You have Pirlo in both the good and bad list :|:|:|

Originally posted by IceBlu
You have Pirlo in both the good and bad list :|:|:|

Maybe he was great in one half and off in another :p

Anywayz its great that Vieri scored :rockman:

Maybe he can do the same vs. Lecce and here on in for the rest of the season...

i know. he fit into both.

how can the same player be in both good and bad? thats odd

DP will go to EURO because thanks to him and the rest of the team, Italy is in the final 16. Cassano did sh!t to achive that, as well as Miccoli and other players. but most probably cassano will go instead of miccoli.
baggio wont go. trap said that the team that reached EURO will be the one with the priorities. DP with totti and vieri will be lethal to any team. the 3 of them just play great. thats why he is going

plus i already got my #7 Del Piero new italian jersey so he betta go! :f***: hehe

Originally posted by SB9Dragon
Maybe he was great in one half and off in another :p

Anywayz its great that Vieri scored :rockman:

Maybe he can do the same vs. Lecce and here on in for the rest of the season...

of course he didnt crack a smile or show any emotion when he scored. (some) of the inter fans should be ashamed for treating him so poorly when hes been so important to them over the years. he deserves better.

about pirlo. its hard to explain, youd have to have just seen the game. and if hes gonna bring the players who brought them there, than pippo surely deserves a place (hat trick in their biggest game).

One player who WILL be at euro is coraddi, and at the expense of one or two of these players:

Cassano Miccoli Gilardino Baggio

I think we can all agree italy just has TOO MUCH talent, thats its becoming a problem.;)

if i was the coach, id take these players as my forwards:

Vieri, Miccoli, Baggio, Gilardino, Cassano and DP

none of them should be left out. and Gilardino should be Vieri's back up as he plays as a lone striker for parma, and has done alright;)

(didnt mean to post so much. just very excited bout euro)

Originally posted by Mikey
about pirlo. its hard to explain, youd have to have just seen the game. and if hes gonna bring the players who brought them there, than pippo surely deserves a place (hat trick in their biggest game).

One player who WILL be at euro is coraddi, and at the expense of one or two of these players:

Cassano Miccoli Gilardino Baggio

I think we can all agree italy just has TOO MUCH talent, thats its becoming a problem.;)

pippo could deserve his place, but he is injured ;)

corradi? mmmm... i'll preffer to see Gilardino in portugal (H) but still corradi is good too

Totti
Del Piero
Vieri
Miccoli
Cassano
Gilardino

3 magicians, 3 great attackers......whoever doesnt put italy in the final its just cukoo

those would be my 6 attackers that trap said he'll take :)

Originally posted by Mikey
if i was the coach, id take these players as my forwards:

Vieri, Miccoli, Baggio, Gilardino, Cassano and DP

none of them should be left out. and Gilardino should be Vieri's back up as he plays as a lone striker for parma, and has done alright;)

(didnt mean to post so much. just very excited bout euro)

Totti isnt considered as a midfielder
he plays next to DP, and DP is an attacker ;)

Actually Totti is considered as a midfielder. It doesn't matter where he plays. Trap will choose 5-6 forwards apart from Totti.

he said in an interview that for the attack, DP totti and vieri for sure, plus 3 other strikers

Del Piero, Totti, Vieri, Miccoli, Gilardino and Corradi - those would be my choices.

where can i watch the goals or highlights?????'

tv or internet :)

grrrrr.....:p
that wasn't the answer i was waiting for.......:rolleyes: hehe
any website?

you can see the whole game on www.raiclick.it
it'll be up prolly tomorrow or friday

thanks mate!!!!
como está venezuela? suerte!

perdiendo 1-0 :( jeje

does anybody know where i can get a new italian jersey, other than subside?

i just got it today and it r o c k s

but i havent seen it anywhere else. the one in www.soccer.com isnt the new one, its something wierd that isnt the new one.

some pics coming to a pc near you soon :hump:

my choice for italys attacking force
totti-best player in italy
gilardino- most promising young striker
Vieri- CF muscle
DP- magic work with totti
Miccoli- handy, can a bit of MF too
baggio- he can give more to the team then corradi and cassano i reckon, and basically the whole italian population wants him there

500th post :)

:)

:o

niceeee :D

damn that first pic was a little unfocused :rolleyes:

overall its a very nice shirt, but the only con its that it is too delicate (the material) so i wont be wearing it much until the eurocup begins :D

claupastore, do u have the old puma one?
wats the material strength like on that 1?
ive got the old kappa one, and that pretty weak

last pics

http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/is11.jpg
http://sport.virgilio.it/it/slideshow/images/20040428/is12.jpg

Originally posted by italianstyle87
claupastore, do u have the old puma one?
wats the material strength like on that 1?
ive got the old kappa one, and that pretty weak


i have every single italian kit since the 96' one (H)

yea the old puma its much better than the new one (the material)

Originally posted by italianstyle87
my choice for italys attacking force
totti-best player in italy
gilardino- most promising young striker
Vieri- CF muscle
DP- magic work with totti
Miccoli- handy, can a bit of MF too
baggio- he can give more to the team then corradi and cassano i reckon, and basically the whole italian population wants him there

500th post :)

i agree with you 100%

im gonna hold out on getting jersey to see if baggio makes team. if not ill get totti (Y). How much did that jersey cost in total? (whyd you get away?)

Baggio would give 100% if given a real chance... I don't think it will happen though... it's sad because I feel we could have seen more of Baggio genius :(

Originally posted by Mikey
im gonna hold out on getting jersey to see if baggio makes team. if not ill get totti (Y). How much did that jersey cost in total? (whyd you get away?)

total i think it came to $83 with shippment

i got the white one cuz i like to alternate them :)

04 away (puma)
03 home (puma)
02 home and goalkeeper (kappa kombat 2002)
00 away and home(lost it) (kappa kombat 2000)
99 away (kappa)
98 home (nike)
96 home (nike)

and in about two months ill get the new home one cuz my parents are coming from italy :p

Originally posted by claupastore
total i think it came to $83 with shippment

i got the white one cuz i like to alternate them :)

04 away (puma)
03 home (puma)
02 home and goalkeeper (kappa kombat 2002)
00 away and home(lost it) (kappa kombat 2000)
99 away (kappa)
98 home (nike)
96 home (nike)

and in about two months ill get the new home one cuz my parents are coming from italy :p

i have all those except wc 98 one, and i always get home. I think the 96 one was the their best(Y). I have and imitation of the 94 one, and is looking HARD for a baggio one from 94.

for old kits check subside, but itll cost a ton of dough

the 96 one is class, but i just love the 98 one (H)

subside has it. and ya its A LOT of money. id be willing to spend that much but all they have it in is M.

the kit from '03 is the best one for me....... i have the jersey of Vieri hehehe
i like the neck style and the font ....... that jersey is pure class:)
i don't know what has happened with puma this year, IMO i don't like the font and the neck..... hehe

porfavor juventino no te molestes, solo es mi opinion sobre el nuevo kit:rolleyes:

jajajaja no me molesto por lo que pienses del kit jajaj ;)

but yeah i dont like the neck, i dont get the double sleeves. i guess that english dude thought that it would be estilish :|

but the fonts are coool. they are like classy fonts.

on soccerage.com there was an article about pippo hunting for a euro spot, could il trap be so stupid?

we have an azzurri thread :D thats great, i didnt notice the change of name :)

man he'll be retarted to take him. he is sooooo out of form that its not funny anymore :kader:

I have to admit Pippo aint the man for Euro if Italy want a decent strikeforce

But hopefully he'll still get the call

:(

I think we should go with this squad:

1. Buffon
2. Panucci
3. Zambrotta
4. Zanetti,C.
5. Cannavaro,F.
6. Nesta
7. Del Piero
8. Perrotta
9. Vieri
10. Totti
11. Camoranesi
12. Toldo
13. Fiore
14. Gattuso
15. Pancaro
16. Oddo
17. Pirlo
18. Cassano
19. Miccoli
20. Gilardino(I'm sure Trap will take Corradi)
21. Ferrari
22. Peruzzi
23. Materazzi

Im assuming the numbers are jersey numbers?

Its pretty sure Vieri will wear #21

And isnt Nesta attached to his #13?

Other than Camo, who else is capable of playing right mid?

Can Alex play there?

You may be right about the numbers but I put the # for the starting 11.

Oddo can play RM. I don't see other players play this role. It was a position we needed to cover badly. That's why we got an Argentinian to cover it. ;)

I don't like Fiore but he can play there. Nervo too.

Alex can play RM or LM in desperate situations.

I dont think Camo should play there

His season for Juve hasnt been up to par

Fiore deserves the spot

I think Camo was our best player this year. Fiore always as a good run during the season but never performs when it really counts. IMO

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
Im assuming the numbers are jersey numbers?

Its pretty sure Vieri will wear #21

And isnt Nesta attached to his #13?

Other than Camo, who else is capable of playing right mid?

Can Alex play there?

i think, i think nesta has always used #6 for italy but cant remember that well right now

Originally posted by mark77
I think Camo was our best player this year. Fiore always as a good run during the season but never performs when it really counts. IMO

plus camo has always done great in the NT :)

Oh ****, that jersey you posted a page back is ****in amazing. Off the hizzy.

Plus it's got Del Piero #7. My favorite player of all time.

Where'd you get it from?

nesta has played as both #13 and #6
more recent V wales

nesta plays as 6 in friendlies and as 13 in major tournaments

as long as totti is there, im ok

but my ideal euro line-up would be

----------------------------vieri---------------------------
del piero-----------------totti-----------------fiore----
----------------gattuso-------------pirlo-------------------
--zambrotta-----nesta----cannavaro------oddo(panucci)--
------------------------buffon-------------------------------

its about time that there is an azzurri thread

yep (H) Soon the Euro Finals and transfers are all that will be to talk about.

I like that lineup but I think Trap is stuck on C. Zanetti and Perrota for midfield....BUT they have had somewhat unimpressive years in the league so hopefully Gattuso, Pirlo, Maresca and maybe even Blasi get a chance int he pre Finals friendlies.

the threesome of Bobo Totti and DP need to be there as they have been SO GOOD when they have played together. It would be dumb not to at least start with that.

I believe Gattuso-Pirlo should be played instead of Zanetti-Perotta

Isnt it obvious Gattuso-Pirlo is the better pairing?

But im sure Trap will choose Perotta-Zanetti

id rather baggio for fiore in that lineup
but anyway, from what ive seen, for italy, DP and il bambino d'oro play on the same line with fiore (or whoever it be) playing back in MF

Originally posted by jumbo
Oh ****, that jersey you posted a page back is ****in amazing. Off the hizzy.

Plus it's got Del Piero #7. My favorite player of all time.

Where'd you get it from?

subsidesports baaaaabyyyyy (H)

cost me a ton (shippment and letters) but man i love it :D

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
I believe Gattuso-Pirlo should be played instead of Zanetti-Perotta

Isnt it obvious Gattuso-Pirlo is the better pairing?

But im sure Trap will choose Perotta-Zanetti

better in the system Milan play, but Italia use a different system. Pirlo is not a good enough defensive player to be in the 2 man midfield. Spain's midfield ate him up in the friendly. Gattuso and someone else perhaps.

is Perotta a defensive minded player?

and btw, if Pirlo and Gattuso can play in a midfield of 5 at Milan, why cant they for the Azzurri?

because as n0rthstar said, azzurri play a 2 man midfield, i think its 3, and pirlo does not have the defensive part of his game at a higher enough level
at milan he has seedorf and gattuso to back him

2 man midfield?

So Alex, Totti and Fiore are considered strikers?

Italy plays a 4-2-3-1

That means a lone striker

alex and totti play primarily as attackers, and dont do much is any defending
i think fiore should play, maybe he does play, back making 4-3-2-1

gattuso doesnt do that good when playing in the NT and it has been seen :)

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
2 man midfield?

So Alex, Totti and Fiore are considered strikers?

Italy plays a 4-2-3-1

That means a lone striker

yeah i was wonderin about the 4-3-2-1 like milan occassionally play, this way we could fit pirlo into the lineup

we could still have the trident up front for some breathtaking attacking, with perrotta/zanetti/gattuso/whoever with pirlo in the middle,

but obviously it would be too close to the tournament to change to an experimental system, the 4-2-3-1 has worked

Originally posted by claupastore
gattuso doesnt do that good when playing in the NT and it has been seen :)

yeah that is another problem and why Trapp does not choose him even now. We remember WC 2002 :rolleyes:

yeah but when he comes into the side from teh bench, he plays well, he inserts energy into the side usually when they are uninspired

Whats the deadline for submitting rosters for Euro 2004? I cant find that info anywhere.

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Whats the deadline for submitting rosters for Euro 2004? I cant find that info anywhere.

usually about a month before the competition begins, but im not really sure myself

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Whats the deadline for submitting rosters for Euro 2004? I cant find that info anywhere.

end of may me thinks

Originally posted by modena_10
yeah but when he comes into the side from teh bench, he plays well, he inserts energy into the side usually when they are uninspired

ya well I think he will be on the squad but might not be a starter. It might not be a bad idea to go to a 3 man midfield anyways as the teams beaten with the current formation are not exactly top class.

---------------------Vieri
----------------DP----------Totti
---------xxxx--------Pirlo-------Gattuso
Zambrotta----Canna----Nesta----Oddo
------------------Gigi-------

not really sure who to play on left
midfield....

Maresca would be a good choice but the odds of him even being on the sqaud seem slim.