I'm sick of these teenyboppers around my school: "0mfG d0()dZ! LiNk0N-p3rK aNd g0Od-ChArlOtT3 aRe TeH BEsT BANdDZ sInCE EVeR!! WaAnnA CoM3 oV3R AnD LisTen 2 AvRiL LAVigNe WiTh Me? 0mG wE Ar3 s0 pUnK!!!!111oneonetwo"

It pisses the **** out of me. These kids ranging from 8-15 who actually like these shyte bands. Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your own opinion, but don't call Good Charlotte and Simple plan and Avril Punk Rock. Heck, they're not even Rock, it's Pop kids! Here's my rants against many bands. (The colour brown on a band is to symbolize their **** quality. The colour blue on a band is to symbolize their utter brilliance.)


Linkin Park:
-Every song manufactured the same, and brought out as 'new'. C'mon, every song is predictable-as-****, and the same! Each song starts with a piano or synth intro, a verse, chorus, verse, blonde kid screams, then an outro similar to the intro. That is pretty much every song by this band.

Simple Plan and Good Charlotte:
-This is why dumb**** kids under the age of 22 shouldn't be allowed in mainstream rock, look at these dumbasses! Everytime I listen to thise shyte, or a fan talks to me about them, a lose a couple braincells. The band Simple Plan not too long ago on April 1st, had decided that for April Fool's they'll call a certain widely-known American music station that they're quitting. Obvious, and done before, nice one ripping off the Smashing Pumpkins in their Fool's event on '96. What the **** is wrong with the world? Oh right, MTV.

Avril Lavigne:
-Look at exactly what I said about SP & GC. This hypocritical chick makes her first hit about Poseurs, yet doesn't begin to look at the fact that her music is (now was) titled as rock (unfortunately), and she can't even play her instrument properly or even co-write the music properly, unlike every other band in (actual) Rock History.

Yellowcard:
-This new one-hit wonder band out of where-ever the **** is absolute ****. I don't know who the **** the producer was, a 12 year old, possibly? Because these inbred-looking dip****s are in their ******* preppy-ass GAP/Old Navy clothing trying to look bad, whilst that bitch vocalist has an electric violin in his ******* hand!. I have nothing against this instrument or people/bands who use them, but you couldn't be farther from looking like a badass when you're using one.

Story Of The Year:
-Story of the Year? Yeah, here's the Story of a band which fully consists of Trucker-Hat rockers who think it's "0mG s0 pUnk-As-****"([/sarcasm]) and defines you as a rocker when you're burning yourself, putting yourself in physical pain and so on. It's not, it's not punk, it's not rock-culture, it's being a dumbass. Obviously Common Sense isn't so common in this band.

(Dis)Honorable mentions: The Hives, Sum41, Blink-182, The Strokes.
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The Tea Party:
-Their utilization of a many variation of instruments is simply hypnotic. Their music is truly unmatched, and each song is like you're being sucked into a new world, a realm. Unlike bands such as Linkin Park, this band is a true 'Quality>Quantity' band. Amazing hits such as Psychopomp, Winter Solstice, Release, The Bazaar, The Messenger and others.

Honorable mentions: Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Pink Floyd, Sonic Youth.

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Anyway, that was just my review/rant or maybe even teen angst...

Discuss Mainstream MTV 'Rock'/Pop, or great bands such as TTP

I'm glad you mentioned Nirvana. Couldnt agree more with you too.

Linkin' Park know how to write songs, that's why they are so catchy.

You are too pessimistic about music. I had a friend once who started a band. They are called New Found Glory. They write the same **** they did when they first started, but are considered sell outs. He has since been kicked out of the band, years ago in fact. But just because something is formulaic and easy to understand doesn't make it ****ty.

Originally posted by Elder
Linkin' Park know how to write songs, that's why they are so catchy.

You are too pessimistic about music. I had a friend once who started a band. They are called New Found Glory. They write the same **** they did when they first started, but are considered sell outs. He has since been kicked out of the band, years ago in fact. But just because something is formulaic and easy to understand doesn't make it ****ty.

New Found Glory sucks ass as well. Too many reasons to list.

MTV ruined rock. :kader:

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
New Found Glory sucks ass as well. Too many reasons to list.

MTV ruined rock. :kader:

No, MTV made the music industry what it is today. For better or worse.

Originally posted by Elder
No, MTV made the music industry what it is today. For better or worse.

Worst, a lot worst.

MTV's general audience consists of:

Fat ugly girls who wear low jeans and thongs, who wear shirts that say "Cutie", "Sexy" and so on.
Low self-esteemed teenage girls who only like rock bands for their looks, rather than music or lyrical content.
And so on.

When a band debuts on MTV, much like Linkin Park, their music has to appeal to this unfortunate and ****ty audience. Therefore, they're making their music catchy, yet ****ty, which holds back a lot. If they make a real song, the audience won't like it, and record sales would go down the ****ter. Why? Because they started with ****ty MTV-Friendly music, which caused a barrier to appeal to those who listen to some real rock. And an appeal to the types I've listed in this rant. So, record sales would go down the ****ter because the PF/Nirv/AiC/Tool etc bands have no respect for them. And MTV dip****s wouldn't like it because it's no longer their type.

So what's Linkin Park doing? Selling out. Not that they were much in the first place, but all they're doing is keeping it appealing to the MTV audience for the money. Maybe they're selling out and keeping their music Pop-like, or maybe they just simply write that ****ty. Either way, if I had to choose between listening to Linkin Park or a senior moaning Fidel Castro in orgasm, I'd pick the senior, because Linkin Park is just that tasteless.

This is going much farther than it had to, but if you think hard enough, you'll understand.

From the mind of a madman,
SimonTheMime

wow, exactly what i think !!

I love people that talk ****e about evry rockband that is successful.

(when I say I love I mean I hate)
Oh, man they are selllouts

yeap MTV made music more materialistic its our fault for accepting it. Nowadays you have to be good looking or your not going to make it unless you have a sure 1# hit. If you hate it so much don't listen to it.

Originally posted by QuikZilver
I love people that talk ****e about evry rockband that is successful.

(when I say I love I mean I hate)
Oh, man they are selllouts

yeap MTV made music more materialistic its our fault for accepting it. Nowadays you have to be good looking or your not going to make it unless you have a sure 1# hit. If you hate it so much don't listen to it.

I would if it wasn't in every radio station I turn to.

It's these tasteless 12 year olds that request their music, vote for their songs, etc. So rather than not listening to it, I thought I'd fight it at the root: Show these kids what's wrong with this crap, and why, these effect? Maybe it'll finally get them to see what the good, or at least - decent music is like.

From the mind of a madman,
SimonTheMime

I see what you're getting at, and to an extent I agree, too many trying the same idea and tagging along, but you'll get that in any genre which shows success.

So, do you not accept Pearl Jam were the far superior grunge band than Nirvana until Cobain's death? Let's face it, if it wasn't for his suicide they would be NOWHERE NEAR as famous as they are now.

Purely out of interest, what age are you? Because it's a well known fact that as you get older, EVERYTHING new is crap. :)

Originally posted by HeartsFC
So, do you not accept Pearl Jam were the far superior grunge band than Nirvana until Cobain's death? Let's face it, if it wasn't for his suicide they would be NOWHERE NEAR as famous as they are now.

Purely out of interest, what age are you?

True about Nirvana. There were no Kurt Cobain shirts until his untimely death, either. (Y)

Age?
15 this July.

Who cares? Honestly, just listen to what you enjoy. I know its hard to ignore the fact that the music industry is pretty corrupt. I agree in the sense that it is very very hard for an unsigned act that slave their guts out on a stage to gain any noteriety anymore. That is due to the fact that record labels and such 'manufacture' acts to suit their marketing needs. They have more power and control and tell bands like Linkin Park what to do, wear, how to act and so on.

I do my best to ignore all that, i listen to music for the pure fact that i enjoy it. Sorry, i'll admit i do like an odd Linkin Park song, but who cares? I enjoy it. But hey, at least i can say it makes up about 5% of my musical interests, id rather pop on a Lostprophets, Rammstein, Fear Factory, Deftones, Slipknot, Machine Head, (old) KoRn, Weezer, Soundgarden, Bjork cd etc etc...

Its all about the music to me now. The way it should be i guess.

Originally posted by John_Arne_Riise
Who cares? Honestly, just listen to what you enjoy. I know its hard to ignore the fact that the music industry is pretty corrupt. I agree in the sense that it is very very hard for an unsigned act that slave their guts out on a stage to gain any noteriety anymore. That is due to the fact that record labels and such 'manufacture' acts to suit their marketing needs. They have more power and control and tell bands like Linkin Park what to do, wear, how to act and so on.

I do my best to ignore all that, i listen to music for the pure fact that i enjoy it. Sorry, i'll admit i do like an odd Linkin Park song, but who cares? I enjoy it. But hey, at least i can say it makes up about 5% of my musical interests, id rather pop on a Lostprophets, Rammstein, Fear Factory, Deftones, Slipknot, Machine Head, (old) KoRn, Weezer, Soundgarden, Bjork cd etc etc...

Its all about the music to me now. The way it should be i guess.

I can tell I wouldn't like you if we met. Every band you listed, except Weezer, and Soundgarden is pure **** in my mind. I just don't like their music, or them.

Of course, I don't care if you like the ****ty bands I've listed. What really smacks me is when people try to tell me or others how great those bands are, and are completely ignorant to what makes them pure and utter ****. Then, when I give 'em my earphones for them to listen to some Nirvana or Alice in Chains or Tool, "Ah! My ears! What is this crap, you goth!?!!?". "Goth"?! Dumbasses, I couldn't be further from goth, and if they think Nirvana is Goth or Metal music (Which is exactly what Kurt D.C stood against) then they have a huge ignorance-filled anal-plug up their asses.

From the mind of a madman,
SimonTheMime

OK, well, from what I see that from your musical likes and dislikes that you believe music is a channel of mature, complex emotions, which is cool and all, but that's not for everyone. You'll also notice that there is an influx of pish "expresso bar" bands such as Starsailor and Coldplay, who specialise in dull riffs and bland lyrics, which I completely hate.

Fact is I believe music is an outlet for our feelings as well, however, this also applies to such "basic", perhaps immature, vibes which you get from such Pop-punk bands. Is there anything wrong with this? Think about that. To them, music is about having a good time, and if their lyrics are about a girl who they find hot or rejoicing drinking a lot of beer, so what? Emotions all the same, and if they love what they're doing, then good luck to them. If they're making a good buck from it? Even better. I know I'd swap positions with them in a second. :)

Ok, let that be the end of my barroom sociology. :)

Originally posted by HeartsFC
OK, well, from what I see that from your musical likes and dislikes that you believe music is a channel of mature, complex emotions, which is cool and all, but that's not for everyone. You'll also notice that there is an influx of pish "expresso bar" bands such as Starsailor and Coldplay, who specialise in dull riffs and bland lyrics, which I completely hate.

Fact is I believe music is an outlet for our feelings as well, however, such "basic", perhaps immature, vibes which you get from such Pop-punk bands. Is there anything wrong with this? Think about that. To them, music is about having a good time, and if their lyrics are about a girl who they find hot or rejoicing drinking a lot of beer, so what? Emotions all the same, and if they love what they're doing, Then good luck to them. If they're making a good buck from it? Even better. I know I'd swap positions with them in a second. :)

Ok, let that be the end of my barroom sociology. :)

Yeah fine, I don't mind that. Music if for yourself, but what I hate and cannot stand is when they call Pop, "Rock", or even think about comparing it to real legendary rock bands. Some guy was trying to convince me, the other day, that Linkin Park is better than Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, and Led Zepellin combined. And no, he wasn't being sarcastic. It's these ignorant ****ers who make me wanna castrate their dad's with dull tweezers for having these dumb**** inbred kids.

From the mind of a madman,
SimonTheMime

I like Story of the Year. Don't talk **** about this band. They are good and actually play really good shows.

Linkin Park has good music as well, it's not groundbreaking, but it's good.

You seem to complain so much about MTV, If it wasn't for them who would now Nirvana. NOBODY. Face it they do a lot of bad to the music industry, but if it wasn't for MTV, all musicians would be **** poor.

Bands that i like (I'm into Emo-core, Screamo etc, it's a cross between Hardcore and Emo)

Story of the Year
Funeral for a Friend(They are from Wales i think)
Lost Prophets
Thrice(best band in the world)
Finch
Strike Anywhere
so many more

I also like Nirvana, and believe me if it wasn't for MTV me nor you a 14 year old would know who the **** they were.

PS DAVE GROHL ROCKS

Well, Linkin Park are just embarassing themselves now. Should have packed up while they had a shred of dignity left. But then, they introduced Re-animation. :$

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
I like Story of the Year. Don't talk **** about this band. They are good and actually play really good shows.

Linkin Park has good music as well, it's not groundbreaking, but it's good.

You seem to complain so much about MTV, If it wasn't for them who would now Nirvana. NOBODY. Face it they do a lot of bad to the music industry, but if it wasn't for MTV, all musicians would be **** poor.

Bands that i like (I'm into Emo-core, Screamo etc, it's a cross between Hardcore and Emo)

Story of the Year
Funeral for a Friend(They are from Wales i think)
Lost Prophets
Thrice(best band in the world)
Finch
Strike Anywhere
so many more

I also like Nirvana, and believe me if it wasn't for MTV me nor you a 14 year old would know who the **** they were.

PS DAVE GROHL ROCKS

Wow, I just came across the biggest ignoramus inane ****er I've met in this forum. Take a good look at what I said, MTV now sucks. At least before, they appealed to a more mature audience, and were less full of crap.

"Thrice(best band in the world)" Get some fresh air man, and go listen to some Zeppelin, Velvet Underground, The Doors, and Hendrix. Right now

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
I can tell I wouldn't like you if we met. Every band you listed, except Weezer, and Soundgarden is pure **** in my mind. I just don't like their music, or them.

Of course, I don't care if you like the ****ty bands I've listed. What really smacks me is when people try to tell me or others how great those bands are, and are completely ignorant to what makes them pure and utter ****. Then, when I give 'em my earphones for them to listen to some Nirvana or Alice in Chains or Tool, "Ah! My ears! What is this crap, you goth!?!!?". "Goth"?! Dumbasses, I couldn't be further from goth, and if they think Nirvana is Goth or Metal
music (Which is exactly what Kurt D.C stood against) then they have a huge ignorance-filled anal-plug up their asses.

From the mind of a madman,
SimonTheMime

your not any better than those kids who like Simple Plan, Avril Lavigne. Why the **** do you care what they listen to. It's their taste in music, it's not killing you. Your being as stupid as those kids. From what i know Kurt Cobain didn't care what ppl thought about his music, why the **** should you.

PS. if your gonna quote me don't insult me. We are having a conversation and tehre is no need for idiotic responses

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
I can tell I wouldn't like you if we met. Every band you listed, except Weezer, and Soundgarden is pure **** in my mind. I just don't like their music, or them.

Of course, I don't care if you like the ****ty bands I've listed. What really smacks me is when people try to tell me or others how great those bands are, and are completely ignorant to what makes them pure and utter ****. Then, when I give 'em my earphones for them to listen to some Nirvana or Alice in Chains or Tool, "Ah! My ears! What is this crap, you goth!?!!?". "Goth"?! Dumbasses, I couldn't be further from goth, and if they think Nirvana is Goth or Metal music (Which is exactly what Kurt D.C stood against) then they have a huge ignorance-filled anal-plug up their asses.

From the mind of a madman,
SimonTheMime

Hey dude, im not ranting and raving about 'how great' those bands are, nor am i trying to tell you what to listen to. Im just explaining its purely the fact its what i enjoy. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion as far as music goes, and you obviously think most of the bands i listen to are ****, which is fair enough.

Musical taste is personal.

It's not so much the music than it is the artists themselves, and the fans. Like I said, somebody was trying to convince me Linkin Park is better than Led Zeppelin, The Doors, and Jimi Hendrix combined. It's these people I hate.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime


"Thrice(best band in the world)" Get some fresh air man, and go listen to some Zeppelin, Velvet Underground, The Doors, and Hendrix. Right now [/B]

I like thrice, they are my fav band. What's the prob?

By the way i listen to Hendrix, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath etc...I pretty much grew up with that kind of music.

You should get your head out of your ass. Face it people have different views.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
It's not so much the music than it is the artists themselves, and the fans. Like I said, somebody was trying to convince me Linkin Park is better than Led Zeppelin, The Doors, and Jimi Hendrix combined. It's these people I hate.

who tried to convince you? cuz it wasn't me!

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
I like thrice, they are my fav band. What's the prob?

By the way i listen to Hendrix, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath etc...I pretty much grew up with that kind of music.

You should get your head out of your ass. Face it people have different views.

I didn't say they suck. I said that the guy's an ignoramus for calling them the "Best Band In The World". That's just ignorant.

i think they are the best band right now. It's my opinion! Jesus christ!!!:kader:

your the one who opens a thread saying **** about bands you hate. Your being just like those kids who think they are punk

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
i think they are the best band right now. It's my opinion! Jesus christ!!!:kader:

your the one who opens a thread saying **** about bands you hate. Your being just like those kids who think they are punk

No dude, I'm against those kids.
They might arguably be the best band now, but ever? That's pure ignorance.

okay i exageratted!
It's just something typical a die hard fan would say

Do you like Thrice?

It's his opinion, so just leave him alone about it.

I happen to listen to Thrice, myself, and they're quite alright.

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
okay i exageratted!

Do you like Thrice?

Underrated here in Canada. Good music. (Y)

People really need to stop taking stuff literally.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
Underrated here in Canada. Good music. (Y)

I'm starting to like you. Thrice!!!!!

where in Canada are you from

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
I'm starting to like you. Thrice!!!!!

where in Canada are you from

Suburbs of Toronto.

what school do you go to?

i know somebody who thinks exactly the same way you do.

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
what school do you go to?

i know somebody who thinks exactly the same way you do.

RHHS.

Just as a final note here, just because 14 year old girls like something, doesn't automatically make it bad. Just because you don't like it and everyone you know doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's bad. You can't change people's minds about music, and by bashing music that people like you just make people mad. I'm sorry you think that anything catchy or anything that doesn't transcend musical boundries IN YOUR OPINION is crap, but not everyone thinks that. You say "it's been done before", but I don't recall these songs being done before. So why is it that if Green Day releases "All the Small Things" in 1994 it's great music, but if Blink 182 releases it in 2000 it's crap. Sounds stupid to me.

RHHS. That means i don't know you. Seriously you and the kid i know can be best friends

i agree with Nimreitz

I appreciate what The Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, and Led Zepplin did for Rock, but to me it is unlistenable. It's horrendous music in my opinion. I won't argue that Less than Jake or Sum-41 are better "artists" than those guys, because clearly they aren't innovators (by the way, some ****ty 10 minute jam song full of ****ty solos isn't innovative), but I think that they produce better music. If I wanted to be driven insane, I would play Led Zepplin, if I want to be happy, I play Blink or Sum. It's personal opinion, but you know what, in my opinion Blink 182 is better than Led Zepplin.

P.S. You don't actually know anything about music, you're being influenced by a counterculture even more than your classmates are being influenced by popular culture. What qualifies you to tell me what good music is? I've listened to pretty much every style of music, play a few instruments, and have played MANY MANY styles; who the **** are you to tell me that you're some authority and I don't know crap (don't say you never said that, I like stuff from every band you bashed in your first post, and you bashed people who like that music too). Oh, and Pop can be art too, Andy Warhol anyone? Pop Art is HUGE right now.

Originally posted by Nimreitz
I appreciate what The Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, and Led Zepplin did for Rock, but to me it is unlistenable. It's horrendous music in my opinion. I won't argue that Less than Jake or Sum-41 are better "artists" than those guys, because clearly they aren't innovators (by the way, some ****ty 10 minute jam song full of ****ty solos isn't innovative), but I think that they produce better music. If I wanted to be driven insane, I would play Led Zepplin, if I want to be happy, I play Blink or Sum. It's personal opinion, but you know what, in my opinion Blink 182 is better than Led Zepplin.

P.S. You don't actually know anything about music, you're being influenced by a counterculture even more than your classmates are being influenced by popular culture. Oh, and Pop can be art too, Andy Warhol anyone? Pop Art is a HUGE genre right now.

you are so wise.

i can't stand Led Zep and Pink Floyd.

Originally posted by Nimreitz
I appreciate what The Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd, and Led Zepplin did for Rock, but to me it is unlistenable. It's horrendous music in my opinion. I won't argue that Less than Jake or Sum-41 are better "artists" than those guys, because clearly they aren't innovators (by the way, some ****ty 10 minute jam song full of ****ty solos isn't innovative), but I think that they produce better music. If I wanted to be driven insane, I would play Led Zepplin, if I want to be happy, I play Blink or Sum. It's personal opinion, but you know what, in my opinion Blink 182 is better than Led Zepplin.

P.S. You don't actually know anything about music, you're being influenced by a counterculture even more than your classmates are being influenced by popular culture. What qualifies you to tell me what good music is? I've listened to pretty much every style of music, play a few instruments, and have played MANY MANY styles; who the **** are you to tell me that you're some authority and I don't know crap (don't say you never said that, I like stuff from every band you bashed in your first post, and you bashed people who like that music too). Oh, and Pop can be art too, Andy Warhol anyone? Pop Art is HUGE right now.

I didn't say pop isn't art, but it's certainly decreasing in it's artistic level. Beatles were amazing, now look at what's come of pop.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
It's these people I hate.

and you're calling other people ignorant?

****, half the musicians u listen to were dead before you were even born :rolleyes:

you'll realise eventually that listening the same 2 albums that are "hardcore" enough for you will eventually get repetitive, and what are you then?

i dunno if you can call people ignorant when you refuse to listen to anything made after the mid90's.

i'll bet you that you actually do like pop, and when noones around you love listening to justin timberlake, britney spears, jessica simpson, n'sync etc, but ur not man enough to admit it :evil:

Originally posted by Parra Power
and you're calling other people ignorant?

****, half the musicians u listen to were dead before you were even born :rolleyes:

you'll realise eventually that listening the same 2 albums that are "hardcore" enough for you will eventually get repetitive, and what are you then?

i dunno if you can call people ignorant when you refuse to listen to anything made after the mid90's.

i'll bet you that you actually do like pop, and when noones around you love listening to justin timberlake, britney spears, jessica simpson, n'sync etc, but ur not man enough to admit it :evil:

I test various amounts of music, in my playlist you'll even see some crap like Sisqo. Partially because I share this computer with others, but it's not to mean I don't look around to see what I do and don't like.

music....such a complicated subject.

I think everyone needs to just relax a little and not take the 'hardcore punk rock pop' whatever so serious, because it is not that serious at all...

All I see through this thread is:

***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty pop rock punk i am so hardcore and mature, I am not a 14 year old.... what is that? You bloody act like one. Grow up mate, you say that people between 8-15 listen to crap, but you act like you're under 15, what’s worse? The maturity of a person or the music they listen to? I know what I would choose.

People can listen to whatever music they want to listen to, it's up to them, and for you to say "I hate people who listen to this type of music" is just ignorant... what if you love some chick and she listens to yellow card? Oh wait, you hate her because she listens to "***ty none hardcore punk rock pop" where (as Parra Power suggested) half the musicians u listen to were dead before you were even born... ‘Get with the times man”.

If you are going to bag music, don’t bag the music there is now and back it up by saying you listen to bands that are so ‘hardcore’ and ‘so old’, say you listen to ‘less known artists’ (I say less known because they are KNOWN, but are less known than the bands you flame), like taking back Sunday, Coheed and Cambria, Dashboard Confessional, the Used etc.

You are trying to tell people that they are listening to the wrong music despite the fact that this is what they grow up with and generally this is what they like these days?

It's a lot like this concept:

10 of my mates walk into my house and I am sitting watching TV in my boxer shorts. They ask me to put my pants on, but I refuse because I say it is wrong to wear pants, despite the 10 others wearing them.... they should be wearing boxer shorts, don't you think so?

The same goes for 'your' music, you like it, 10 other people listen to and like good charlotte or story of the year, but they are wrong, that music sucks because you don't like it...

HMMMMM.

:confused:

You know, as well as anyone, that everyone is different. You don't need to post a thread flaming everyone who listens to music that you do not like, there is no need for it, and there is especially no need for this:

***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty***ty ***ty pop rock punk.

It is your opinion so express it with a more formal approach, it’s disgusting to tell you the truth.

:kader: :kader: :kader: :kader:

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
True about Nirvana. There were no Kurt Cobain shirts until his untimely death, either. (Y)

Age?
15 this July.

Hold the **** on there. I just read this gem.

I believe I was a Nirvana fan before Kurt died and I believe I considered them one of my top few bands back in the day. There were no Nirvana fans back then? No shirts? Just keep talking out of your ass; I had a tour shirt back then. You didn't live through the time, you don't know; I do. I wasn't old by anymeans, but I was tapped in to the grunge/alternative scene.

Sublime is the greatest band of the 90's by the way. There's no point in arguing. Nirvana were prepackaged crap compared to the genius of Brad Nowell.

my 2 cents:

Good Charlotte dont deserve life

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva

i can't stand Led Zep and Pink Floyd.

I dont care what Nimreitz just said, my friend said this once, and its probably the truest statement ever made. Its sooooo true, i will never back down from it.

"If you dont like atleast three Led Zeppelin songs, you're a homo"

So Nimreitz, find atleast 3 zeppelin songs that you like, or im afraid that you're a homo. its as simple as that.

I honestly dont like Nirvana, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and all these other "old-school" rock bands, simply because I wasnt around during their primes... some of my friends are always trying to convince me that their legends and should be liked just because of that, but no...

BTW Simon, I'm from Toronto too... how you like Hoobastank? (H)

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
I dont care what Nimreitz just said, my friend said this once, and its probably the truest statement ever made. Its sooooo true, i will never back down from it.

"If you dont like atleast three Led Zeppelin songs, you're a homo"

So Nimreitz, find atleast 3 zeppelin songs that you like, or im afraid that you're a homo. its as simple as that.

I could find 3, but I'd have to sit through a LOT of stuff I don't like, and I won't do that.

If he had said Pink Floyd, then I'd be a homo.

Just to be safe:

1) Black Dog
2) Whole Lotta Love
3) Rock and Roll

I like others, but those are the first three that I thought of.

:p

Originally posted by Nimreitz
If he had said Pink Floyd, then I'd be a homo.
As would I.

Thinking about this topic, I've realized that in the past, I used to try and "like" certain songs and artists, because I felt like I had to. People would chastise me for not liking certain groups or songs. For example, I was always told that I needed to like Pink Floyd, and really "Money" is the only song by them that I actually like, but I used to try and force myself to like other songs by them. Hell, I didn't even know who Nirvana was until well after they became popular, and all my friends thought that I was weird or something. I just didn't listen to that type of music back then. Now I do like a couple of their songs, but I don't rate them very highly on my list of favorite artists. That doesn't make them any more or less talented, I just don't like them. Once I realized that I didn't have to like everything that everyone said I did, that's when I found some of my favorite music, and I now no longer care if other people do or don't like it.

"Thin Ice" is the only song I could tolerate.

I wish it were longer.

Fool in the Rain (probably wont believe that its led zeppelin, not their usual rock style)
or
Over the Hills and far away

I dont understand how any human being could not like these two songs, honestly.

You can say that its just my opinion. But when it comes to Led Zeppelin, its not about opinions anymore. You can say, Led Zeppelin is just not my style. Ok thats fine, its your loss, but its fine. But if you say Led Zeppelin ******* sucks, then i just feel sorry for you. Its like saying Ice cream ******* sucks. You dont **** with ice cream.

Originally posted by John_Arne_Riise
Musical taste is personal.

Nuff said really.

But go on, take the piss out of my winamp playlist. You'll be here forever since I just listen to music on the charts mainly ;)

http://oceania.soccergaming.com/leungtl/winamp.htm :)

Originally posted by leungtl

But go on, take the piss out of my winamp playlist. You'll be here forever since I just listen to music on the charts mainly ;)

http://oceania.soccergaming.com/leungtl/winamp.htm :)

Ouch. :X

Though, I will give you props for having that NBA on NBC theme.

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
Ouch. :X

Though, I will give you props for having that NBA on NBC theme.

The Tesh one? Wow.

Not going to criticize you. I'm the biggest defender of popular music on the forum.

I hate hardrock,punk&metal music in general. " :rockman: "

I don't see the overall point of it, even though many of my mates try to get me to listen to iron maiden or something.

I used to listen to Linkin Park when they came out, but the music is all the same, so there's no catch to listen to the tracks for more than once or twice.

http://img-n2.ii2.org/l/2/l24fn5_b.jpg

:junior:

You saying that rap,hip hop,R n B and stuff like that have a point in it but punk and rock dosent?I dont think so, they only sing about sex,money and drugs...

Thats only my opinion...

Whats music.......Den?





I listen to everything......that sounds good.

Hey dumbass. Hate them or love them while you are blabbering on wasting your time on a thread no one cares about they are the ones at the bank now finding out there bank account has more digits in it then your phone number.

Tissue?

Originally posted by OnE_UnITED
they only sing about sex,money and drugs...

Thats only my opinion...

Last time I checked i don't think they even sung :p

Originally posted by OnE_UnITED
You saying that rap,hip hop,R n B and stuff like that have a point in it but punk and rock dosent?I dont think so, they only sing about sex,money and drugs...

dumbest post yet. I'm sorry that you have only been exposed to what MTV or the radio call rap or hip hop. fair enough RnB is only about love or money it is pure garbage. but rap and hip hop are a lot different once you get past the mainstream, much like punk, everyone can go around dissing this so called 'punk' music they see on MTV or hear on the radio but in actual fact it isnt punk. but people must realise it isnt the fault of MTV or the radio for how ****ty music has gotten in recent years, the only people to blame are the record labels. why? because they pay the radio stations and MTV to play their artists over lesser known and in most cases better artists who are signed to some small indy label.
I am by no means a fan of Linkin Park, in fact i straight out dispise them and anything they have created, but nobody can call them sell-outs, there is a simple reason for this, they started out making the same sort of music you hear. as soon as that chester dude joined the band that is the style they have created. selling out is when a band or artist changes their by request of their record label.
For example, has anyone else noticed that whenever Eminem is about to release a new album, the first single is the most catchy pop non hip-hop money grabbing peice of **** on the album. every one of his commercial releases has had this.
another example would be green-day (bitch all you want they arent puck) back in the day they were considered punk, but somewhere along the way, i think it was between insomniac and nimrod, they completely changed styles, sure you can argue there was the occasional punk song on their later albums but the fact remains green day did sell out and rancid did threaten to kill them if they ever returned to their old stompig grounds.
as for this 14 year old preaching all this old rock horse****, nobody gives a flying ****, music continually evolves, and for the most part it is for the better, you are too busy trying to be individual and anti everything that you fail to realise that you are a conformist brat. if you werent so busy trying to seem mature and above everyone with your musical tastes i wouldnt give a ****, but you think that what you say is gospel. you are just like all these teeny-boppers that are too busy listening to avril and good charlotte thinking they are punk and being individuals for wearing ties and having dog collars to realise that there are 10 million other people that are exactly the same as you saying exactly the same things. get over yourself.
like what ever music you want but when it comes to peoples personal opinions you will never be able to convince everyone.

rant over

shut up you sig idea stealer :crazyboy:

haha you wish, yours doesnt look all nice and messy like mine, plus i have the matching avatar

my original one did..... :crazyboy:

i'll c if i can find it... this is just the no bg one thank to yash

EDIT:

http://oceania.soccergaming.com/yaroslav/sig1.JPG

yours looks to clean, therefore mine is better, but you still get points for not going for a fit inducing sig, but your avatar is pissing me off, lol:crazyboy:

bah.... thats an old school avatar from 2001 sometime :o

change it, come to the darkside

Well, at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference.

People will probably slate me for liking 90's Britpop but most of it was absolutely class. Well, barring the Seahorses and Elastica. They were tripe. I also was a fan of grunge and didn't really give a toss about Nirvana. I was just sick of the stigma surrounding them.

In my opinion, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were the better bands.

As for pop/punk, it just annoys me that the market is saturated by it. Carbon copies of the band that preceeded it. Fair enough, it forces bands to re-invent themselves to stay alive but that new Blink stuff still doesn't float my boat.

As for the mini-moshers. Kick their heads in. Hooded tops don't make your opinion valid.

hopesfall
poison the well
a static lullaby
taking back sunday
story of the year
funeral for a friend
from autumn to ashes
finch
thursday
thrice
coheed and cambria
saosin
juliana theory
get up kids
afi
alkaline trio
the starting line
bright eyes
all american rejects
alexisonfire
this day forward
the early november

all these bands i adore.. and listen to everyday...

each to there own in music tastes...

cant be critical of anything...

so stop sooking and whinging...

girl.

Originally posted by Alistair
Last time I checked i don't think they even sung :p

LOL...
oh well they rap, who cares..i dont ;)

Now OWENISAGUN you are probably right, i see and hear only rap that comes from radio stations and thats because i dont like style of rap in general so i havent even tryed to reach for some underground rap or whatever.And i wont ever do it, rap culture just isnt my taste.

Maybe i shoulndt talk about it...i dont know...

Anyway i think mainstream whatever genre they are or try to be, is ****!

Btw:
Mutt you have hell of a good music taste (Y)

Originally posted by OnE_UnITED


Btw:
Mutt you have hell of a good music taste (Y)

:) thanks..... got a band shirt collection just starting...

consists so far..

2 X A Static Lullaby
1 X From Autumn To Ashes
1 X Alexisonfire
1 X AFi
2 X Taking Back Sunday
1 X Yellowcard (forgot to mention in bands list above)
1 X Funeral For A Friend
1 X Coal Chamber

weee..... its gonna get bigger :)

Originally posted by Nimreitz
Hold the **** on there. I just read this gem.

I believe I was a Nirvana fan before Kurt died and I believe I considered them one of my top few bands back in the day. There were no Nirvana fans back then? No shirts? Just keep talking out of your ass; I had a tour shirt back then. You didn't live through the time, you don't know; I do. I wasn't old by anymeans, but I was tapped in to the grunge/alternative scene.

Sublime is the greatest band of the 90's by the way. There's no point in arguing. Nirvana were prepackaged crap compared to the genius of Brad Nowell.

Hey dumbass, read the post again. I said there were no (Or not as many) Kurt Cobain shirts back then. I said absolutely nothing about Nirvana shirts. ****, stop taking steroids before you get on the forum, man.

stop taking steroids

so will his increased muscle size somehow influence his posts then? :confused:

Music achieved perfection in November of 1984 when The Smiths released the 'Hatful of Hollow' album, everything's been crap since! :jambo:

wtf, Curt Cobain ain't even hot like Morrissey!!!! :rolleyes:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005RS8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

"if you are so very-looking, then why do sleep alone tonight..."

"Love is natural and real, but not for such as you and I, my love"

The Smiths - "I know it's over"

u don even know what Linkin Park is really about SimonTheMime, isn it enough that MetallicA invited'em to Texas n they also r one of their fave bands ?
shut ur mouth n listen to ur music. :kader:

Originally posted by Nimreitz
Nirvana were prepackaged crap compared to the genius of Brad Nowell.
Oh gosh... well, everyone is entitled to their opinions... But Nirvana's debut album Bleach didnt look pre-packaged to me. You can say they became succesfull because of Teen Spirit, but most of Nirvana fans today (including me) cant "stand it" (i like it, but i'm bored of it) anymore. And I prefer Silverchair.(H)

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Fool in the Rain (probably wont believe that its led zeppelin, not their usual rock style)
or
Over the Hills and far away

I dont understand how any human being could not like these two songs, honestly.

You can say that its just my opinion. But when it comes to Led Zeppelin, its not about opinions anymore. You can say, Led Zeppelin is just not my style. Ok thats fine, its your loss, but its fine. But if you say Led Zeppelin ******* sucks, then i just feel sorry for you. Its like saying Ice cream ******* sucks. You dont **** with ice cream.
Exactly. If you dont like it, at least respect it. I cant stand these people, especially when they say one of my favourite bands sucks (and most of the time they know i like them too). You can be sure i'm going to be pissed off and enter an argument.(H)

The Strokes should not be a dishonourable mention :f***:

Originally posted by Me3
u don even know what Linkin Park is really about SimonTheMime, isn it enough that MetallicA invited'em to Texas n they also r one of their fave bands ?
shut ur mouth n listen to ur music. :kader:
Now if i'm a Metallica fan i'm obligated to like Linkin Park? (PS - I hate Metallica, but nothing against people that like them). Metallica inviting Linkin Park to Texas is not enough.

Metallica like Limp Bizkit, now they suddenly rock?

Originally posted by Grunger0x
Now if i'm a Metallica fan i'm obligated to like Linkin Park? (PS - I hate Metallica, but nothing against people that like them). Metallica inviting Linkin Park to Texas is not enough.

Metallica like Limp Bizkit, now they suddenly rock?

Agreed.
Plus Metallica's new stuff (last 3 albums) is a load of crap. Just because they like or invite somebody to open for them doesn't mean their rock.

All in All, what Grungerox said. (Y)

I used to be like you, SimontheMime. Then I grew up and actually opened my mind to other genres of music.

Seriously, all I listened to were Tool, Opeth, Dream Theater and other such metal and prog bands. I heaped scorn upon those who listened to rap and hip hop, listened to "manufactured" pop bands etc etc (or even worse, bands like Limp Bizkit to which pre-pubescent kids listened and considered themselves hard because the "f" word was used indiscriminately).

Then one song changed it all: 'Get By' by Talib Kweli. This one song had it all, soaring vocals, an awesome hook, nice flow and socially aware lyrics. I listened, and listened, and listened to this song.

But I thought all hip hop was crap about bling bling and shootin' fools who was runnin' on my block!

Wrong. So this opened my eyes to the world of hip hop, and I thought well, if hip hop is this good, maybe everything I listen doesn't have to be underground, or true Norwegian black metal, or so full of pseudo-psychological self-analysis and obscure Lithuanian poetry references I can hardly concentrate on the goddamn song without running to the State Library to check up on Lachrymology or other such crap (seriously, I love Tool, always have and always will, but I get tired of the overanalysis of the vast majority of their tracks).

I listen to Eminem because I think he's a brilliant satirist. I listen to Britney Spears because 'Toxic' is like the catchiest song I've heard in my life. I listen to Nas because I love his flows and his message. I listen to Arch Enemy because sometimes you need to cut sick. I listen to Tool, Muse and Opeth because sometimes I too want to feel intellectually superior and feed my ego.

And I listened to The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin because they're seminal, or so the vast majority of people told me. That's fine and all, but I'm not really digging it.

Respect my musical choices and I'll respect yours. I'm sure that your musical tastes will evolve, as mine did, and you'll someday see where I'm coming from.

Originally posted by hermolt
I used to be like you, SimontheMime. Then I grew up and actually opened my mind to other genres of music.

Seriously, all I listened to were Tool, Opeth, Dream Theater and other such metal and prog bands. I heaped scorn upon those who listened to rap and hip hop, listened to "manufactured" pop bands etc etc (or even worse, bands like Limp Bizkit to which pre-pubescent kids listened and considered themselves hard because the "f" word was used indiscriminately).

Then one song changed it all: 'Get By' by Talib Kweli. This one song had it all, soaring vocals, an awesome hook, nice flow and socially aware lyrics. I listened, and listened, and listened to this song.

But I thought all hip hop was crap about bling bling and shootin' fools who was runnin' on my block!

Wrong. So this opened my eyes to the world of hip hop, and I thought well, if hip hop is this good, maybe everything I listen doesn't have to be underground, or true Norwegian black metal, or so full of pseudo-psychological self-analysis and obscure Lithuanian poetry references I can hardly concentrate on the goddamn song without running to the State Library to check up on Lachrymology or other such crap (seriously, I love Tool, always have and always will, but I get tired of the overanalysis of the vast majority of their tracks).

I listen to Eminem because I think he's a brilliant satirist. I listen to Britney Spears because 'Toxic' is like the catchiest song I've heard in my life. I listen to Nas because I love his flows and his message. I listen to Arch Enemy because sometimes you need to cut sick. I listen to Tool, Muse and Opeth because sometimes I too want to feel intellectually superior and feed my ego.

And I listened to The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin because they're seminal, or so the vast majority of people told me. That's fine and all, but I'm not really digging it.

Respect my musical choices and I'll respect yours. I'm sure that your musical tastes will evolve, as mine did, and you'll someday see where I'm coming from.

Don't get me wrong, the songs I listed aren't all I listen to. I have a few Reggae and HipHop CDs as well, which I listen to time-to-time. For Rock, however, I just prefer the bands I listed.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
Don't get me wrong, the songs I listed aren't all I listen to. I have a few Reggae and HipHop CDs as well, which I listen to time-to-time. For Rock, however, I just prefer the bands I listed.

That's good - so why rail on the people who listen to stuff you hate?

I forgot to mention - I listen to Bob Marley and Manu Chao, cos their ain't nothing like hearing those two guys when you're sparking a fatty. (H)

Originally posted by hermolt
so why rail on the people who listen to stuff you hate?
(H)

I wouldn't put it like that, it's just what hits me is when they call Avril Lavigne, Simple Plan and other Pop bands, "Some of the best rock bands ever". Then when I ask them about some real great and legendary rock bands, it's a sudden puzzled look on their ugly faces.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
I wouldn't put it like that, it's just what hits me is when they call Avril Lavigne, Simple Plan and other Pop bands, "Some of the best rock bands ever". Then when I ask them about some real great and legendary rock bands, it's a sudden puzzled look on their ugly faces.

I'd disagree with them as well. But seeing as music is highly subjective, what's the problem?

Originally posted by hermolt
I'd disagree with them as well. But seeing as music is highly subjective, what's the problem?

Their ignorance.
The GC/SP fans see me wearing a Nirvana shirt "y0u kn0 thaT nrvaana guY is Dead rIGht? y You we4riNG hIS ShiRt". Dumb random ****s I don't even know, that think Nirvana is a one-man band consisting of just Kurt Cobain.

I like Avril Lavignes music. Some of the stuff of her Let Go album is pretty good. Just because she is branded as manufactured does it really make it a bad thing? I want to hear opinions on it.

Simon, do you hate the actual artists music or just the people that claim to believe they are the greatest musicians ever? Both or what? I cant be ****ed back-tracking.

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
Their ignorance.
The GC/SP fans see me wearing a Nirvana shirt "y0u kn0 thaT nrvaana guY is Dead rIGht? y You we4riNG hIS ShiRt". Dumb random ****s I don't even know, that think Nirvana is a one-man band consisting of just Kurt Cobain.

So the title of your thread should really read "My rant against stupid fans of pop/rock bands"?

But like I said, I listened to Floyd, Zeppelin and the Beatles. That stuff doesn't really do it for me. So if I say to you: "Man, I'm loving this Sum 41 album right now.." and you say "What about Led Zeppelin" and I say, "well, I know nothing about them, don't really like them" - does that make me a dumb random ****?

Originally posted by hermolt
So the title of your thread should really read "My rant against stupid fans of pop/rock bands"?

But like I said, I listened to Floyd, Zeppelin and the Beatles. That stuff doesn't really do it for me. So if I say to you: "Man, I'm loving this Sum 41 album right now.." and you say "What about Led Zeppelin" and I say, "well, I know nothing about them, don't really like them" - does that make me a dumb random ****?

Only because you "know nothing about them" and are judging them on absolutely nothing. If somebody says they hate Led Zepellin, and haven't heard a song by them, that's complete ignorance.

People generally don't like things they know nothing about.

Originally posted by Mutt
:) thanks..... got a band shirt collection just starting...

consists so far..

1 X Alexisonfire

I'll give you 50 cents for that :o :D

Originally posted by The Don
The Strokes should not be a dishonourable mention :f***:

Exactly the dude is an complete jackass. Again I state the Strokes are a top 5 band of all time. I dare you to listen to Is This It? It is one of the most complete albums ever made. There isn't a bad song on the album and you can hear their talent. Lyricaly they are absolutely brillant.

Then he says Jimmy Hendix is good. What the ****? Jimmy Hendrix is one so overated it is not even funny. I mean when did going on 20 minute acid induced gutair rifts that are horrible to listen to make for good music. Listening to Hendrix play the Gutair is like listening to a homeless man talk. You have no idea what is going on but you know that it won't be ending anytime soon.

The only reason people like Hendirx is because he did drugs and anyone who does drugs is cool to other drug users. If Bob Marley didn't smoke pot and was just some random guy who made music who these millions of pot heads like him. NO. The only reason they have made him cool is because he smoked pot. Same with Phish. When I listen to Bob Marley and the Whalers I hear an average band, but these stoners make him out to be some kind of legend because of the music. No, because he smokes pot.

How can anyone say Nirvana was that great? The were good but not great. I mean there were so many other bands that could have easily come out of Seattle at that time instead of Nirvana. Nirvana were a dime a dozen back in the early 90's in the Northwest. Sure they were good but Grohl himself will tell they were not the best from Seattle at that time. Nirvana were more lucky than anything else to just come out nationaly before most of the other bands could. It could of just as easily been some other band.

Originally posted by pennington10
Exactly the dude is an complete jackass. Again I state the Strokes are a top 5 band of all time. I dare you to listen to Is This It? It is one of the most complete albums ever made. There isn't a bad song on the album and you can hear their talent. Lyricaly they are absolutely brillant.

Then he says Jimmy Hendix is good. What the ****? Jimmy Hendrix is one so overated it is not even funny. I mean when did going on 20 minute acid induced gutair rifts that are horrible to listen to make for good music. Listening to Hendrix play the Gutair is like listening to a homeless man talk. You have no idea what is going on but you know that it won't be ending anytime soon.

The only reason people like Hendirx is because he did drugs and anyone who does drugs is cool to other drug users. If Bob Marley didn't smoke pot and was just some random guy who made music who these millions of pot heads like him. NO. The only reason they have made him cool is because he smoked pot. Same with Phish. When I listen to Bob Marley and the Whalers I hear an average band, but these stoners make him out to be some kind of legend because of the music. No, because he smokes pot.

How can anyone say Nirvana was that great? The were good but not great. I mean there were so many other bands that could have easily come out of Seattle at that time instead of Nirvana. Nirvana were a dime a dozen back in the early 90's in the Northwest. Sure they were good but Grohl himself will tell they were not the best from Seattle at that time. Nirvana were more lucky than anything else to just come out nationaly before most of the other bands could. It could of just as easily been some other band.

Well, to further research into why you think The Strokes are not full of ****, I did a search on them, then I came across this news article from CNN.
Usually I find CNN's news very biased, but for once I agree with them:

Poll: Worst bands of the year

Thursday, January 1, 2004 Posted: 12:43 PM EST (1743 GMT)

Creed, another act that draws sharp reactions, came in at No. 2 even though the Christian combo took the year off. New York rockers the Strokes were No. 3, followed by "all pop-punk bands" at No. 4 and pop-punk band Good Charlotte at No. 5.

Limp Bizkit's "Results May Vary" has sold one million copies after 13 weeks, and ranks No. 64 on the U.S. pop charts. Its previous release, 2000's Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavored Water," ranked No. 5 after 13 weeks with sales of four million copies.

Metallica's poor-selling new album, "St. Anger," was named biggest disappointment, but it also came in at No. 2 as the best metal album, ranking behind Black Label Society's "The Blessed Hellride."

Metallica's Kirk Hammett was named best metal guitarist, a possible consolation prize for having all his solos cut from "St. Anger," and Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl was named best rock guitarist, notwithstanding his initial claim to fame as the drummer with defunct rock band Nirvana.

Another long-gone band, Led Zeppelin, released the best rock album of 2003, the 3-CD live package "How the West Was Won," according to Guitar World readers. That category was rounded out by Audioslave's self-titled debut, the White Stripes' "Elephant," Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Vicious Cycle" and Rush's "Rock in Rio."

The other big disappointments of the year were listed as "all new music," the break-up of Texas metal veterans Pantera, the continued absence of a new Guns 'N Roses album, and Marcos Curiel's departure from Christian rock band P.O.D.
Link (http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/01/sprj.yir03.music.poll.reut/)

Looks about right.

Hates best-of albums,
SimonTheMime

Originally posted by Nimreitz
The Tesh one? Wow.


Yeah, why not? It's an awesome theme.

Yea because CNN knows about music. Oh wait they don't. You clearly haven't listened to them. For the poll they probably just went around asking a bunch of ****s like you who know nothing about music because your to busy trying to be an outsider.

The thing you hate to be a conformist is exactly what you and your prick buddies are becoming. I mean you sit and talk crap about how a bunch of kids like the same crappy pop music and all the dress the same and wear Abercrombie.

But what is it you are doing. You and others like you just sit around wearing black T-shirts with some crap like My clown ate my Penguin listening to music someone, who is not yourself deemed good. All you pussies care about is rebelling against the norm and not conforming but what have you become. There are millions of kids just like that. In reality you are what you hate.

What is the difference between a bunch of 16 year old popular girls who think Justin Timberlake is a good musician and a bunch loaner 16 year old boys who think Nirvana are good?

There is no difference. It seems like that this whole we are going to rebel crowd is just jealous of kids who are deemed cool so they broke off and started their own socitey based only on hating kids who are popular. But in breaking they became what they hated but are to stupid to realize it. I mean what is the difference in wearing bright vibrant colors and listening to cheerful music and wearing all black and listening to depressed music.

It is the same habits just a different package. Most of these dark, depressed kids are just to ignorant to admit that because again the only reason they made themselves different in the first place is because they hate kids who like pop music.

I know I have just pissed every kid who sits around in his room wearing black and listening to bands like AFI while finding something to be depressed about but it is true. It is like putting an Almond Joy in a Twix wrapper. Sure you guys like different music and fashions but at the end of the day you guys are both still teens with the same problems.

Can any of you answer the question of Why must I try to be different from one group of kids just to be exactly alike to another group of kids? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being different?

Originally posted by pennington10
Yea because CNN knows about music.

Your whole post ruined by that statement. What you were saying after it could've been credible, but I refused to read it after the ignorace displayed in the first sentence. Hey dumbass:

It was a poll. The opinions don't reflect on CNN's.

Maybe you should of read the second sentence. Wait I will copy it for you.

Originally posted by pennington10
Yea because CNN knows about music. Oh wait they don't. You clearly haven't listened to them. For the poll they probably just went around asking a bunch of ****S like you who know nothing about music because your to busy trying to be an outsider.

EDIT: Make that the fourth sentence.

Then it defeats the purpose of the statement "Yea because CNN knows about music."

I probably shouldn't have expected some good musical taste out of Italian wannabe soccer gino, you're all jocks. Live with it.

Moderators, close this thread.

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SimonTheMime

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Originally posted by pennington10
Yea because CNN knows about music. Oh wait they don't. You clearly haven't listened to them. For the poll they probably just went around asking a bunch of ****s like you who know nothing about music because your to busy trying to be an outsider.

The thing you hate to be a conformist is exactly what you and your prick buddies are becoming. I mean you sit and talk crap about how a bunch of kids like the same crappy pop music and all the dress the same and wear Abercrombie.

But what is it you are doing. You and others like you just sit around wearing black T-shirts with some crap like My clown ate my Penguin listening to music someone, who is not yourself deemed good. All you pussies care about is rebelling against the norm and not conforming but what have you become. There are millions of kids just like that. In reality you are what you hate.

What is the difference between a bunch of 16 year old popular girls who think Justin Timberlake is a good musician and a bunch loaner 16 year old boys who think Nirvana are good?

There is no difference. It seems like that this whole we are going to rebel crowd is just jealous of kids who are deemed cool so they broke off and started their own socitey based only on hating kids who are popular. But in breaking they became what they hated but are to stupid to realize it. I mean what is the difference in wearing bright vibrant colors and listening to cheerful music and wearing all black and listening to depressed music.

It is the same habits just a different package. Most of these dark, depressed kids are just to ignorant to admit that because again the only reason they made themselves different in the first place is because they hate kids who like pop music.

I know I have just pissed every kid who sits around in his room wearing black and listening to bands like AFI while finding something to be depressed about but it is true. It is like putting an Almond Joy in a Twix wrapper. Sure you guys like different music and fashions but at the end of the day you guys are both still teens with the same problems.

Can any of you answer the question of Why must I try to be different from one group of kids just to be exactly alike to another group of kids? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being different? First of if you would read the article you would see that the poll is from the readers of Guitarworld magazine.

The difference between a bunch of 16 year old popular girls who think Justin Timberlake is a good musician and a bunch loner 16 year old boys who think Nirvana are good is that those 16 year old girls would be fans of Nirvana if they were popular, while the 16 year old boys would still listen to the music they like.

BTW, I'm no big Nirvana fan I'm definetely more in to metal and **** like that, EDIT: and it's not because I'm trying to be an outsider it's just because I can't stand rap or pop, did that tought cross your mind, now your just acting like a hypocrite, criticizing people for generalizing others that listen to "popular" music, but then you say people that listen to Metal, Hardcore, etc. just listen to it so they can be "outsiders"

Originally posted by sslazio121087
First of if you would read the article you would see that the poll is from the readers of Guitarworld magazine.

The difference between a bunch of 16 year old popular girls who think Justin Timberlake is a good musician and a bunch loner 16 year old boys who think Nirvana are good is that those 16 year old girls would be fans of Nirvana if they were popular, while the 16 year old boys would still listen to the music they like.

BTW, I'm no big Nirvana fan I'm definetely more in to metal and **** like that.

(Y)

Originally posted by SimonTheMime
I probably shouldn't have expected some good musical taste out of Italian wannabe soccer gino, you're all jocks. Live with it.

Exactly. I am not the one trying to prove to the world I am not a jock. You are the one sitting here trying to prove to the world you are being different but for someone so different there seems to be millions more just like you.

How many songs have you listened from the bands you said sucked? One or two probably. Hearing one or two songs from a band does not give you a good veiw of what their music is like.

Face it the only reason you are bashing pop bands is because it is what the perceived "cool" kids like and you can't stand anything that is popular.

Originally posted by pennington10
Face it the only reason you are bashing pop bands is because it is what the perceived "cool" kids like and you can't stand anything that is popular.

Don't confuse me with a punk.
Anything mainstream is popular. Nirvana, etc.
I do have 5 or 6 non-mainstream bands that I enjoy however (Sloppy Meateaters, Hybrid3 etc).

How many songs have you listened from the bands you said sucked? One or two probably. Hearing one or two songs from a band does not give you a good veiw of what their music is like.

I live in the suburbs (unfortunately). It's everywhere. I've listened to tons.

Or they don't like something, and therefore don't research it. First impressions are everything. I'm not going to listen to 10 songs from every band in the world.

Originally posted by hermolt
I listen to Britney Spears because 'Toxic' is like the catchiest song I've heard in my life.

It really is. I'm not ashamed to like a song by Avril or Britney or NSync or Justin Timberlake, if anything that makes my musical tastes more diverse and interesting than yours. It also means that I'm not so scared to admit that I like some pop. Images are a tough thing and sometimes they get too difficult to uphold; it's not really worth it in my opinion.

I listen to Kylie Minogue and Slayer.

What now, biatch? :boyaka:

:Bow: http://www.drjazz.ch/album/bilder/ZAPPA05.JPG

If u like Hard-Rock bands it's not that u shudn like pop,rap or even country bands.

my fave genre is rock but I also like Shania Twain n X-Tina, what's wrong ?

Originally posted by bjmenge
People generally don't like things they know nothing about.
You cant hate something you've never knew about or heart about. If i say i hate Limp Bizkit or Linkin Park, it's because i've had enough of it. Let me tell you guys something : I was on my dad's car, then it was playing some brazilian rock band i dont like (because they're poseurs and hypocrites), so i changed the station. Immediately, the other station started playing the same song it was playing in the another one. I heard to it again, then it started to play Hey Ya! and i changed the station again (to the one i was hearing before).

It started to play Evanescence's My Immortal, i heard to it and it started to play some dumb song i cant remember, and i changed the station again (to the one i was hearing before changing back to this one). And it started to play... My Immortal.:rolleyes: (H)

You cant listen to radio nowadays, it's just the same bands and songs every day.

Originally posted by pennington10
Exactly the dude is an complete jackass. Again I state the Strokes are a top 5 band of all time. I dare you to listen to Is This It? It is one of the most complete albums ever made. There isn't a bad song on the album and you can hear their talent. Lyricaly they are absolutely brillant.
This paragraph alone paints a vivid picture of just how ****ty your taste in music is. No need to even begin to address the rest of your insanely ignorant post.

wow pennington... hendrix sucked? you need help. fast. you either never took the time to listen to him, or you are just ignorant.

Yeah, to say [Hendrix sucked] is just down-right sacreligious. I don't care who the **** you are. You need help, and quick.

I've kept my mouth shut through this thread, but that's going too far. I think you should take the time to sit down and re-evaluate who you listen to and stop with all the dissing.

Talib Kweli owns all.:mrpimp:

On topic: Hendrix does not suck.:rolleyes:

To anyone who thinks The Strokes is one of the top 5 band of all time, listen to the bands comin` from the mid 70`s and judge for yourself how "creative" The Strokes in music . . .

And how the **** could anyone thinks Hendrix or Marley sucks. It`s one thing not liking them, but to say that they don`t posess any quality is just lame. Look at all the "now popular and sell out" 70`s wannabe band ( cough . . . cough . . . The Strokes and Jet . . . ), whose influence do you hear at their guitars and sounds. Just look at the way they act, the way they put these drug addict faces everytime they perform, THEY ALL ARE HENDRIX WANNABE !!!!!!

how can you say Hendrix sucks?:kader:

Originally posted by SRB
wow pennington... hendrix sucked? you need help. fast. you are just ignorant.

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
Yeah, to say [Hendrix sucked] is just down-right sacreligious. I don't care who the **** you are. You need help, and quick.

Originally posted by Can't stop the rush...
Hendrix does not suck.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hans
And how the **** could anyone thinks Hendrix or Marley sucks.

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
how can you say Hendrix sucks?:kader:

Wow. (Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)

Nobody will ever play the guitar like Hendrix does(i say does because he's probably still playing for GOD) That's how good he is.

His guitar was like another part of his body

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Originally posted by SimonTheMime
I probably shouldn't have expected some good musical taste out of Italian wannabe soccer gino, you're all jocks. Live with it.

Haha. Yeah, I'm a super jock. *cough* And I'm Anglo-Australian. I tried to talk logically with you, but why bother when this is the crap you spout?

Ryan and Dan know all anyway :Bow: Toxic and Talib.

Hendrix doesn't suck:|
also, Con Psy owns all these fools from that crap band that goes by the name of the strokes-chilli peppers craps all over them and makes them eat it

I dont like Hendrix's music, and there is nothing wrong with that. But what i will say is, i have an abundance of respect for his ability on what he could do on guitar, it was simply amazing.

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
I listen to Kylie Minogue and Slayer.

What now, biatch? :boyaka:

And you bash my winamp playlist :crazyboy:

You fvckmuppet, The Strokes' first album is fb.

:Bow: Kofi

Originally posted by leungtl
And you bash my winamp playlist :crazyboy:

I didn't look through your entire list. I bet I could spot atleast 50 songs on that list that I genuinley like.

I saw that NBA on NBC theme and I was like, hey, cool . . .

Originally posted by hermolt
Haha. Yeah, I'm a super jock. *cough* And I'm Anglo-Australian. I tried to talk logically with you, but why bother when this is the crap you spout?

Ryan and Dan know all anyway :Bow: Toxic and Talib.

I'm good at sports and pretty athletic, I suppose that makes me a jock. Is it impossible to have good musical tastes and be good at sports? Are they even related? Obviously this isn't directed at hermolt, but the 14 year old with the porn forum that may or may not be reported soon (yeah, I'm an asshole, I never said I wasn't).

Toxic rules; so does Talib.

Kanye West, Talib Kwali, Nas :mrpimp:


Everything else is average....
























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(i may have posted about it years ago)

Smells Like Teen Spirit (http://www.easylife.org/386dx/smells.mp3)

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386 DX is the world's first Cyberpunk Rock Band. Sounds of musical instruments and vocals are synthesized by one computer using text-to-speech and midi software. It was invented and developed by Alexei Shulgin in 1998-99. Over 40 concerts were played in different locations in Europe and the USA with great success. The band also performs in public spaces as street musicians (without operator, in pre-programmed mode).

Originally posted by Nimreitz
I'm good at sports and pretty athletic, I suppose that makes me a jock. Is it impossible to have good musical tastes and be good at sports? Are they even related? Obviously this isn't directed at hermolt, but the 14 year old with the porn forum that may or may not be reported soon (yeah, I'm an asshole, I never said I wasn't).

Toxic rules; so does Talib.

I'm **** at sports and nowhere near athletic, so I can't be jock. I just love good soccer and good music. Obviously the two are mutually exclusive. :rolleyes:

I like Mos Def over Talib. I mean Talib is good but I think Mos Def is better.

Originally posted by pennington10
I like Mos Def over Talib. I mean Talib is good but I think Mos Def is better.

You heard any Prefuse 73? shinji put me onto them, they are fb.

Originally posted by pennington10
I like Mos Def over Talib. I mean Talib is good but I think Mos Def is better.

What about Blackstarr?

Originally posted by hermolt
You heard any Prefuse 73? shinji put me onto them, they are fb.

I heard a little of Prefuse 73 but I have never gotten around to checking them out.

And of course Blackstarr is great though it just seemed to fly under radar.