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The FIFA series has always lacked a shooting system that has made me think and put me into that zone where you take a shot and just shout, or cheer. It's never been rewarding!!!

EA just need to make the game FUN!!!! And a lot of fun in a football game will come from the realism and enjoyment of performing actions that happen in real life, I mean any games company can make a football shooting system, but can they make it fun and rewarding?

Otherwise...what's the point in playing the game?!?!?! :confused:


NK.

)that the world class players like ronaldinho or adriano dont get easily past the defenders


their dribbling, pace, speed, should be better, allowing them to get rid of defenders (unless they're world class like ivan cordoba :p)

ratio, players-goals-balls size is always pretty bad. Tackle system is pretty laughable for the most part, you always get the same reaction when you do something in a specific part of the pitch, be a goal, almost a goal, goalie save.. you know what you get before the ball even comes out of your player. Off the ball was dissapointing, because it was 100% accurate when you float the ball to your player chest with no way for the defender to intercept until after the control. Dribbling is pretty random at times it seems. Shooting , 10 years and still no curve.. c'mon! They try to cater too much to the easy to pick up.. but is never hard to master, gets boring quick. Too many sweet spots.

Yes, if we can't curve the ball then we have no real control over the shot, in real life when you shoot the ball, you have to think about the curve, the ball doesn't bend for you!

If they want real simulation, then they've got to make it...they can't just say it's real simulation LOL.

NK.

For one, no more pick and and play stuff. Most people who play this game actually want a real football simulation, its better if you make it harder with more controls to master. Make it more difficult, otherwise the fun is taken out of the game.
Also, there should be more animations for trapping, dribbling, ect. It got very old, very soon, when in fifa 04 (or even in euro) the ball was lobbed to the player and all he did was a chest trap. There needs to be a lot more variation, by the looks and previews of 2005 it seems you added more. But there still needs to be much more, its the same thing everytime you lob a player the ball, even if it is with the chest there should still be some variations in the animations. Also variate the animations in tackling, turning, dribbling.....and most everything else. Players attributes should also matter, henry should be able to outrun many defenders, and del piero should be able to fake out defenders easily than other players. It has gotten a lot better in euro 04 but it still needs to be improved. Basically more of everything you have, the more the better.

SET PIECES: THIS IS A BIG ONE

the idea is right, but they feal way to scripted right now. Why dont we get to control where exactly the corner or fk is kicked. like in 2003 you can set the accuracy and power of a kick and depending on the wind and the accuracy and the player kicking, the cursor will move and the ball will move after you've kicked it. It makes it harder to score and will be more realistic. After you set the power and accuracy THEN you take control of the player and try to jostle for space. You should have to work for the ball instead of pushing a player to one side and easily heading it in. Once again, the goal would be a lot more rewarding and the game would get a lot more fun.

Graphics are great, for me its not enjoyable to play a game with crap graphics. Fifa has always excelled in that, keep up that work. But at the same time put most of your focus on the gameplay. Because, lets face it, just because a game looks good doesn't mean it is good. Its got to be fun.

Yea I agree. they shouldn't be looking to make the game for easy pick-up-and-play. They should make it challanging because if anyone can pick up and play then it's gonna get boring fast.

OK first of all, this thread is a good idea and even though im a well documented FIFA fan, I do have plenty of criticism and frustration to get off my chest.

Crowd - Its a disgrace. It looks like turd and it sounds like turd. What is soccer without the atmosphere of the crowd? When teams are on the counter attack, the supporters should be screaming in anticipation and if that goal does come, the supporters, who SHOULD be in their teams shirt, make a longer noise then just the YEAH we first hear for three seconds. Then after the goal, we should here chanting and the supporters clapping anytime the goal scorer goes near the ball.

Penalties - They could be much much better. There is absolutely no reason for poor penalty animations in soccer games, yet EA some how manage to trip over all the hurdles and give us some crap where we can only shoot to five spots of the goal at too different paces. Also, the crowd behind needs to react with the player.

Celebrations - There's always been hope in this department, I remember not so long ago in FIFA 2001 there were great goal celebrations were you could see the players adrenilin pumping through his veins. But as FIFA got older, the celebrations gradually got worse.

Inability to create/edit players - Its been there in all FIFA's except 2003 and 2004. Why take it out? Its a great innovation that makes the user spend more time on the game and customising it to his leasure. I lost a lot of respect for EA after the CC was taken out.

Hmm I will be back when I remember some more problems.

Im mostly dissapointed withthe 2004 version. But not about just the gameplay. OK they improved the gameplay, some good graphs and so on.

But the fact that really made me mad was the inerface of the game. Just too many errors... errors that a guy of highschool can do in a Project... but not a proffesional who earns a lot of money and who have the time and the facilities to do a more than excellent job.

Yeap, im talking baout those stupid errors like puting 3 teams from the same country in the same CL group. I mean? COME ON!! NO one is as stupid to do it. The only, ONLY way it could be possible is that they didnt noticed the Bug, why? because of the lack of commitment.

Another think is thefalse advertisement... im talking about the dinamyc weather thing. I was not complaining too much because of it.. but there were people that really wanted it. They (EA) said that it was goping to be in the game... but later they said they didnt HAD time to do it. BE PROFFESIONAL GUYS.

When in the starting eleven screen, there were just 8 players in the screen, and u have to scroll down to chekc the whole team. Its alittle detail but u are getting my point.

In the career mode.... in some games.. after the 3rd season.. the game stopped to give u the "points" even when u reached the goals.

In the tranasfer Market, why we coudnt signa player from the America´s teams? I mean.. players like ronaldinho, Maradona, Batistuta, Saviola, all of them were scouted in their national leagues before becoming stars!!!! They didnt suddenly appeared in the European Teams!!! HELLO EA!!.


Things like that i noticed in the game, and not just me... a lot of people complained about it. IMO it is a shame that a compnay like EA...show a product with those errors, its really really dissapointing taking in consideration te time and the technology thei have in their hands.

i totaly agree:hump:

The AI attack is very predictable. AI never shots from long distance even with lots of space too shoot he will pass to a teammate who is making a run toward goal but the teammate might be covered.

The AI does not really set up a play, it's always a through ball and then shoot when the player gets in the box.

How about trying to round the keeper or a long cross in to a player who heads it in. That's what I want to see the AI do on attack. More variety took make me play my best defense.

unpredictability.

make a game which you can honestly say is going to surprise us (in a good way), and is not just standard each year, and you'll have the fans all over the game.

i find it doesn't take long to work out a strategy against the computer, if you can take away this thought process of the player so that they play where they have to think differently against each team, each player, differently (because of the lineups/matchups) then you'll have a winning formula that no one will match easily.

Code for real, dont change the camera angles each year so it just looks like the ball curves, make the ball curve. its thinking like that which will make a great game.

EA, hire me.

The fact that you couldn't add but only update faces was very annoying

well what i think fifa does well is lisencing. but if the game lacks in gameplay the lisencing is useless. i mean they have liceinsing but they dont have real cleats like winning 11. and every body is both footed. lets make it real plz. the game play is meteocur and the online mode made it even better. but instead of short term fun lets concentrate on longevity/ umm fifa can be tthe greatest game do to there great graphics an authenticity but if a game has everything besides gamewplay its boring after the first few weeks.

i think they should make the passing animation look more smooth and natural. then make the career mode more extensve and complete. take all the ideas form madden and live like the training, and the option to tempt players to a pre contract if there contract ends in the following transfer window. or ticket prcing and stuff. better stat layout. and all the good stuff

oh yea the shots forom outside the box were un stobabale. tehy need to change that. i once got scored on from about 40 yards out with a ball that was supposed to be a modified cross. in 2004

My opinion is I didn't like FIFA 04 because it should be called UEFA 04 :) I want to see more out of Europe leagues, clubs and nations.

That's all!!!

The game is always a big promise, and it ends up dissappointing. I thought 2003 was bad, but then I played 2004. The game is too predictable, too choppy, and too plain. If something cool is added, be guaranteed that it won't be in it the year after. It always seems to be the same problem; lack of variety, last year the big dissappointment was career mode, it was too short and it felt like you were playing a radom exhibition game. Also, online was just awful. Connecting more than once was a miracle, if it happened, and the pinball feel is still there, even tough its been "fixed" several times.

Gameplay since FIFA 2000 has gone down.
I'd want the A1 to be much more ruthless and make sure the human player can never beat the A1 ever. I'd also like if there is a way, to have defenders become more involved with attacking, not just on set pieces, but open play eg counter attack, breakaways & etc.

I liked the crowd detail from 2003, how you could identify the away fans section from the home fans. (Away fans at the Anfield Road end at Anfield). Yet in 2004, all I can see is the Away fans flags,but not the away fans. Why take the good detail away?

Originally posted by valioso
ratio, players-goals-balls size is always pretty bad. Tackle system is pretty laughable for the most part, you always get the same reaction when you do something in a specific part of the pitch, be a goal, almost a goal, goalie save.. you know what you get before the ball even comes out of your player. Off the ball was dissapointing, because it was 100% accurate when you float the ball to your player chest with no way for the defender to intercept until after the control. Dribbling is pretty random at times it seems. Shooting , 10 years and still no curve.. c'mon! They try to cater too much to the easy to pick up.. but is never hard to master, gets boring quick. Too many sweet spots.

Wow Wow Listen to this man :hump:

Here is my 50cents...

Gameplay:
- When I run (not sprint) after the ball and the player gets the ball, in that exact moment I lose the enitre player control, it won't turn around at all no mater how much I press left, right, up down. This lasts for only 3-5 sec, but that is enough time for the other player to take your ball.
- I hate it when I press e.g. the pass button twice or too fast, then the other player that is recieving the ball shoots it for some reason, and the ball goes nowhere - very anoying.... it's like the buttons you press get memorised and executed when the other player recieves it.

Graphics:
- The Kit template needs improvement. The parts around the collar, the brad and the badge area get all smudged out. it wasn't like this before...
- Where did the flairs go?

Animations:
- Substitute animations! they need to be like in FIFA 2000 :)

i think Fifa has to be slowed down, fifa 2004 felt way too quick!! goal keepers need improving big time. they stand on there line too much. when a players goes through on goal the keepers need to try and close the angle down. corners need to be changed as having 3 players in the box is not realistic at all.

gotta sort out left footed players hitting ball with right foot at the same level. why are the players both footed. this is a simple error that needs to be sorted.

some people like the current crossing system but i think it sucks. i think EA should get rid of it and put in a new system. i dont wanna judge the power myself. should just make it one button for normal cross, 2 button for near post and 3 button press for low cross across the floor. that is the best way.

200mph shots need to be axed, it is too easy to score from outside the box.

Originally posted by kobashi

some people like the current crossing system but i think it sucks. i think EA should get rid of it and put in a new system. i dont wanna judge the power myself. should just make it one button for normal cross, 2 button for near post and 3 button press for low cross across the floor. that is the best way.


What's the challenge in that?

i agree, it would be too easy to score that way.

in pes3 you can cross the ball the same way, 1 normal 2 for near post 3 low cross, and its brellant! is hard to score and so realystic. thats why fifa need to learn how to make enoyble gameplay. not the same boring staff evry year. i hope they will renew the gameplay with more animation better passing crossing shots drebbling more movment to feal the real football game.
i wos so desepointit with evry thing in fifa 2004 coz of the ball was crap! and i don't want ea to let as down agen like last year. :(

as much as i hated fifa, i think this year will be better. and i dont say this every year sp u know im not playin. i saw a video trailer for the game and the new first touch combined with the off the ball control is making this game a very promising one. i just think u will have to see it for your self. http://fifa2005.ea.com./index_flash.php?locale=uk
http://fifa2005.ea.com./index_flash.php?locale=uk (this is nice)

go to downloads and then watch for your self.



another thing that i thnk would be good is if they made the fields appear wider so that when switching the point of attack it will have a major effecrt on the opppsing defense. and we should see the difference in speeds of players. i mean henry shoudl be able to out run everybody with the ball.

Please bring all the teams to have some tactic lesson.so that they know where they should be and where they should go. i hate using "Q" to ask my players to run one by one.can i make my own formation? free style dribbling is a stupid thing in uefa2004

yeah i know the shots sucks it happens to me in my games that i play... the corner kicks are bad too i don't really like the view

Originally posted by ronaldo9
in pes3 you can cross the ball the same way, 1 normal 2 for near post 3 low cross, and its brellant! is hard to score and so realystic. thats why fifa need to learn how to make enoyble gameplay. not the same boring staff evry year. i hope they will renew the gameplay with more animation better passing crossing shots drebbling more movment to feal the real football game.
i wos so desepointit with evry thing in fifa 2004 coz of the ball was crap! and i don't want ea to let as down agen like last year. :(

exactly, this is the system in Winning Eleven and it works great!!

Not enough front end options, plus some top teams are always missing.

I don't have the time or energy to fully explain ALL the horribly dissapointing details of past FIFA's. I could write a 2,000 word essay BRIEFLY outlining FIFA's hideaous shortcomings, from physics, to graphics to realism and gameplay...

constructive? what's the use, EA still produces whatever they like every year

Change the set-piece system !!
when i get a foul somewhere near the opponent's goal, my player can do nothing but shoot the ball directly to the goal, which has nothing to do with realism !!
also for the corner kicks, i don't have to be limited to 3 players! it's like you tell the player "i want you to deliver the ball to player number 2" and he says "OK you got it" and that's it !!
in reality, a corner-kick taker would see who's available and who's the best man to give the ball to, and then estimates the distance and the power that he should kick the ball at to perfectly deliver the ball to his mate. STOP AUTOMATIC THINGS !!

through-balls, it was a nice idea to add it to Euro 2004 but it needs to be refined since most of them go to the wrong way and get interupted by the opponent. sometimes, giving a normal pass works better than giving a through-pass while the opposite should work better!!

i was playing a semi-final game against Portugal (i was france), and i won 7-0 in world-class level, and i was disappointed !! it's only because i know how to get the ball from the opponent, which is pretty easy !!
EA should make it TOO MUCH HARDER to get the ball from the other team.

make each player different !!
let super players super
let good players good
let normal players normal
let poor players poor
AND LET US FEEL THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM !!

Last but not least,
EA's main goal should be "how to let people enjoy the game even after a year or two"
EA, you don't wanna lose the competition against Konami !!!

As somebody mentioned before, it has to be the sloppiness.

Everything seems to be left half-done. Every year something nice and fancy is thrown in, but it isn't finished. Off the Ball sounded great, looked dandy in the preview videos, but in the actual game it just didn't work (reasons in previous posts). Same thing with this career mode, sounded great but when injury tables are awry, trading isn't possible for SA teams and not to mention the whole Champions League fiasco, it loses the point. It is frustrating! Interface is stubborn! Due to three different generic faces, every non-faced opponent looks the same! Appearences are wrong, feet are wrong, everything has some small or larger mistake. If there were one or two bugs I wouldn't care, but when absolutely nothing works as it should I lose my temper. I know that game developing is hard work and EA has loads of talented employees, but all this sloppiness just makes one imagine the programmers eating donoughts and playing Scorched Earth all day. Why do the NBA, NHL and NFL series always compete for the top spot game of their respective sports, but FIFA hasn't been near the podium for years? And another thing, why do all the nice features appear in the other EA games years before FIFA? NHL had seasons with all the '04 career mode features way back and NBA '96 had differing player heights in 1995! ON THE SEGA MEGADRIVE! Might be small things but, seriously, don't the different EASports divisions talk to each other and share ideas? I thought buying games from a big company with a wide array of titles ment that you could expect an all around high standard of work because the different programmers communicated and brought their knowledge together in order to lessen mistakes and to create a creative and technological edge over competitors, but no! I'm not even going to start to ponder on the reasons why the FIFA series lays so astray from the other titles.

FIFA hasn't been FUN since '98. I have found myself enjoying skateboarding games and FPS's even though I thought I disliked the whole genres. Why? Because they have few bugs and the characters do what I tell them to. Currently I am enjoying NHL '97 on my SEGA Megadrive/Genesis. It is fun. All the features work as they should, and because my players do what I want them to I am not annoyed at problems like inexistent power play formations. Every day the opponent or I score a neat goal in a way I haven't witnessed before. In the FIFA series it took two days to see all the different possible ways of scoring.

EA, why don't you just release a basic Sensible Soccer clone with no bugs and all the features working, and start building a new series from scratch? The current development of the FIFA series reminds me of my high school art projects. Nice shades of colours splashed on to canvas three hours before the work was due. I just barely passed, but that was my only goal. Is it yours as well?

^ that was a great post

Conry, play WE/PES and your worries will go away. (at least MOST of them).

dont attack me fanboyz,,, i used to play FIFA a lot. but now ive seen the truth! :rockman:

Originally posted by Ny8La8
Conry, play WE/PES and your worries will go away. (at least MOST of them).

dont attack me fanboyz,,, i used to play FIFA a lot. but now ive seen the truth! :rockman:

Buy me a PS2 or a new PC with a DVD drive and it's a done deal. And I have played PES countless times, but that relates to the point of this thread in no way. PES is still inferior to NHL '97, I just scored by shooting through the legs of the opposite goaltender. With my goalie (Hextall, of course!). From behind my goal. Can't see PES bringing the house down like that! :D

trust me pes3 is great. i boughtid in october 2003 and i still played it all most every day, because you allways score diffrent goals everytime, that is why i never get bored with that game. i am not hire as pes fan Conry, coz i allways liked it fifa, but i did agree with your first post, fifa promise and lye evry year.


:kader: :kader:

exactly,,, i will never believe in FIFA games again unless FIFA games will be made by anyone but EA.

-half-completed games
-false promises
-overhype
-crappy gameplay

i will not invest my money into that my friends.....

hey it may not be EA's loss to not have me as a customer, but it SURE IS MY gain! :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Ny8La8
exactly,,, i will never believe in FIFA games again unless FIFA games will be made by anyone but EA.

-half-completed games
-false promises
-overhype
-crappy gameplay

i will not invest my money into that my friends.....

hey it may not be EA's loss to not have me as a customer, but it SURE IS MY gain! :crazyboy:

Yeah, I'm studying (just a basic introduction to) marketing right now and it is needless to say that whoever is in charge of bringing out FIFA has broken every rule in the book. I could do a whole case study on how not to produce and market a product. The problems start from being dishonest to the customers, but the worst thing is the purposeful lifting of the customers zone of tolerance and after that releasing a game that falls below that zone. It just makes no sense. Also from the examples in the book, I can't find one marketing or production strategy that would fit with the way the company in charge of FIFA handles things (unless they keep their production costs very low, which I doubt). Examples like these are the reasons people think "I am just a student, but I'm sure I could do the job twice as well!" And having dimwit students around the world thinking they can do EA's job better than the original employees must mean something is terribly wrong.

one big thing that has to be improved is when you shoot a ball with the right inner foot the ball cant make a curve to the right side!! same with the other foot:) thats a big fault

Ny8La8 & ronaldo9:

Read the rules guys, this is to put your points of view about fifa and what has dissapointed you and how would you make it better, not to promote your 'beloved' pes game, so stop comparing them only to say fifa sucks.

Hakeem:
My post clearly serves the purpose of this thread,, i listed why FIFA has dissappointed me.

i wrote:

-half-completed games
-false promises
-overhype
-crappy gameplay

^^^^^^^ these things dissappointed me. im not "promoting" anything here.

in any case, sorry for "not abiding by" the rules. :hump:

i am not hire as pes fan Conry, coz i allways liked it fifa, but i did agree with your first post, fifa promise and lye evry year.


as i sead fifa 2004 dissapointed me coz they spoke about the all year that, fifa 2004 will be te best football game and this and that (Danny Israel i shouldent have listen to you) fifa 2004 lasted me one week because the crapy gameplay. i hoppe ea will do something about it.

you made a great post conry. telling everything truth that our feeling right now. i use to play fifa since RTWC 98 until Euro2004. i really enjoy the RTWC98, give me a lot of fun with so many county i may choose even Malaysia~!! last time i remember i like to use Malaysia to win World Cup before :D i enjoy every series until the worst i can find is FIFA2004. crap gameplay, full of bugs, terrible interface, great graphics on specific player but generic face player are all the same, less choice make the game look all the same.

i see no reason why we want to purchase a game with RM100++ (since i from malaysia). wasted and not worth at all. and i seriously not understand why EA wil allow this kind of game release. out of standard...aren't they not testing the game before it release? from book we also study some project management rules and theory, every project must be testing and testing only can release or implement. aren't they just can't understand this simple thing??? with user involvement, gathering information, analyst, design, program, testing, implement this simple life cycle project management they just not understand. so i suggest they should go to take a computing subject call project management or SAD (system analysis and design) before they start implement a game...

I think thois threads is the most constructive of all ...

Send this thread right aay to EA hadquarters..... to let them know the real thing... and not their crappy lies.

The release date is awful also. The season starts in August and then have the game come out in October. Every other game EA release comes out before the sport starts. The thing that sucks is that the game actually ands up comin out in the middle of november. PLZ sooner and give us the CC so we can fix anything that occurs after that.

An Indoor Soccer Mode would be nice

the reason fifa 2004 dissappointed me was that they promised that every player would have idividual chracteristics and guess what, every palyer was exactly the same when they shot, passed etc... at least in fifa 2003 beckham and roberto carlos had their own way of taking free kicks

cinematics ! the celebration cinematics in FIFA 2003 or 2004 are way TOO bad. Like after the first goal, if it's not a special player, the goal celebration will very simple and too short, like a baby's celebration when he gets a candy.
dribble ! this one is really bad. Why I can't use Zidane to skip pass a Chinese defender ?! Or why a chinese striker get pass my Carlos to easily ? Then the dribble in FIFA 2004 and EURO 2004 are too ugly, and too useless when we have to get pass a defender. For example when I use Zidane to go pass the Macedonia defender in EURO 2004, he went pass that defender, yeah, but then that defender went back too quickly in just a moment to took the ball out of his foot. Why ?
Header ! The players look too hard when they jump and they head the ball like head a rock.
Stadiums ! Too dark with the shadows of the stadium roof.
And at last, the players movement, like receive the ball, pass the ball, heading, shooting, dribbling, etc etc etc are too unrealistic. EA, please make that more realistic, as well as PES 3 !!!

great post;)

Maybe because it's crap and pro evo better.

(1) EA somehow always take away something good from the game for no particular reason.. eg. Radar in Euro2004..

(2) Passing system.. pass + down means i want to pass the ball downward, for some reason the player may decided to pass it backwards, forward, upwards, diagonally but NOT downwards

(3) Freekicks systems looks cool...but often of limited use.. Beckham near the edge of the box.. looks great..but keeper most often get a touch of the ball 90+% of the time (maybe i am crap?)

(4) By the 30th game of the season, every game feels exactly the same.. gets boring rather quickly.. and one season to the next even less meaningful! its just like a re-run..

(5) Winning the league/cup gives very little satisfaction.. the celebration is non-existant!

another thing I want to post.
Why do I think FIFA 2004 is one of the worst in the FIFA series ?
The answer is : EA, look back at RTW98 and FIFA 99, u guys will find out what u guys still miss.....

I found fifa 2004 way too easy even on world class, I could easily beat france , with the worst teams. The gameplay is repetitive goals seem to look the same . The AI should be able to score from free kicks I have never conceded a goal from free kicks. Also the atmosphere lacked in the game , it was an anticlimax after winning the cup.

yeah in fifa 98rtwc and fifa 99 i got great joy out of winning on world class and professinal because it felt like i actually earned the cup and in fifa 2004 it all feels the same on every difficulty level

ok here we go:

1)first of all,the player and team ratings never make a difference.any player with extreme low stats can catch up henry,shoot like him.

2)the cpu team has always been immortal.their players never get tired even if their energy meter burns up.the speed of them is far more than our players.they run and can never be caught up.when we tackle them(slide)they never fall or loose the ball,they skip over our tackles and simply continue their unbeaten run.at kick off,they just simply run straight towards goal.

3)during corners,when they select to aim towards'near post' their player is always stationary in the centre spot .when we try to push him,he pushes us off and if we succeed,then he runs round us back again and eventually scores a header.

4)the game has become too much predictable.after 2-3 weeks even world-class level seems amateur.
BUT NOTE THIS: even though we all say that the game gets too easy does not mean that ea should make the cpu do impossible acts.with the increase in difficulty levels in fifa games the cpu does not increase it's tactical level,but just increases it's attributes to impossible levels like faster speed,transparency,etc.please ea make a game that will force us to keep playing it untill the next fifa releases.

5)holland has never been featured with it's official form.please do feature it.

6)the match winning celebrations and cinematics should be longer and more realistic.in previous games,when we win a cup final,the celebrations were very lame and did not enjoy us.after we should get something fun in return after winning a cup or league!;)

7)try to emulate the gameplay of fifa world cup 2002 game.it was the best ever gameplay i saw in a football game.after that fifa 2003 nd 2004 have been very dissapointing in gameplay

hope u appreciate my views.and i hope to see a better and fun fifa 2005!:rockman:

the last few have had a major lack of multiplayer custom cups

Broken promises . . . Danny Isaac always told how his researcher team have made an intensive research to study players real life behaviour since 2002, but ever since then we could always see how famous lefties like Recoba, Rivaldo turned out to be a right footer in game, how Owen can be out paced by someone like Igor Biscan :| . . . And to tell you the truth, eventough we can edit the foot settings in the game, you can`t feel the difference between kickin` with your weaker or stronger feet. Graphics turned out to be a major dissapointment in 2004, especially on kits ( this is for PC only, cos` on console version EA used a bigger resolution . . . ). And an consistent take away of good features. Nobody asked for the in-game editor to be taken off. Hey, some of us are 56 k`ers who seems to have trouble downloading a big sized CC. But I heard the in-game editor is back for Euro, let`s hope they keep this up. Let CC be an editor for editing major patches like leagues, roster or something for FIFA editors, most people here need a simple in-game editor to edit simple stuffs. One of the major problems are also why does every single FIFA always have a sweet spot where you can score goals and a totally scripted gameplay ??? Evidence : http://soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103707

On that page you can clearly see that there are fixed formulas for scorin` goals. This is not football at all, in football everything is totally random. This is why FIFA can be borin`, because once you`ve found the formulas or sweet spots, then the challenge is no more challenging. What`s the point of playin` a game when you know the fixed formula to beat it ? Nothin` . . .

Free kicks are good but not perfect, I don`t like the idea that whenever we hit on the green spot, the ball will 90 % goes in . . . Again this is another example how FIFA gameplay is so easy to predict. I prefer it to be changed into a power bar. Don`t be shy to copy the concept from "another game company", cos` it is what it`s like in football when it comes to takin` free kicks, it all comes down to feelings and timing. You don`t see a light green area when you kick the ball on the pitch, right ?

Stop over-rating the EPL and American players, in 2003 you put Donovan at a rate about 76, and Kaka at 66 :| . Remember that Kaka is the most famous and talented Brazillian in 2003. Everybody in Europe talked about him and you so called professional researchers "brilliantly" rated him below a kid who got loaned from Bayer Leverkusen . . .

There are lots of other stuffs like dumb goallie that can`t never catch a 45 yard lob or something, but I`m tired of sayin` the same stuffs over and over again . . . :rolleyes:

One final note, it doesn`t matter how much researchers you have or how many football superstars you can put on the front cover, in the end it`s the passion for the sports itself that can make you, at EA, to produce a better football game. And so far since 1998 I feel nothin` but a lack of passion and a disgrace towards football in all your games. Hope this helps, tough I have a high doubt that any "officials" will come, read and implement all of this, and if that`s so, then thanks for your ignorance. Have a good day Isaac . . .

danny Isaac should be killed by now, how can you lye milions of people around the world, that fifa 2004 will be the best football simolation, with improved gameplay. i think fifa 2004 its the worst fifa i ever played, i didn't like the corner kicks, shoting sistem its so stupid, its not point to drible coz you can score from outside the box allways, the (off the ball) is crap:kader: anyway if fifa 2005 will improve the gameplay i will be happy, but it will be hard to belive coz the lye evry year they will improve this end that and you and up dissapointed:rolleyes:

http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104167

Fifa rtwc 98 is the best for its time.

Fifa 2002 I currently play because you can score from 50 yards in to the top corner with ease and score totally ridiculous goals against anyone on world class. This is completely unrealistic, but it is fun for me to play against a friend, because at least you can play an online game properly, and you can customise well and save replays (stuff u cant do later on).

I think there is too much emphasis on trying to be realistic, and since they totally fail to even come close to realistic in every game, they should make it fun, which is what fifa 2002 is, because of the obscene goals you can score and the volleys they programmed in (i once did a scorpion kick, but it went for a corner off their keeper (im not lying)). When i play the game i want to be able to do stuff i dont see in real life, or whats the point. I dont want to play in world class for 45 mins each way to draw 0-0 in a scrappy game (like many times in real life).
Thats why i like fifa 2002 the most (and it does have curl in that game, believe me)

Fifa 2003 and 2004 are absolutely appauling. No customisation and not even a replay save on fifa 2004. Absolutely appauling multiplayer on fifa 2004, couldnt get it to work once. What happened to direct i.p so you can play your friend? all this crap of registering and stuff only for it to not work or work poorly.

so for fifa 2005

1)Customisation
2)Curl!
3)Replay save on PC
4)Make cool moves
5)Make difficult on world class, realistic goals scored in the main, but once every few games you do want that unrealistic goal from distance or volley just because it is fun.

in a brief summary, FIFA2004 was dissapointing because of
CC, Transfer system, stupid menues, super accurate off the ball, crap shooting system
for these reasons and many more unrealisticity issues, i gave up on FIFA 2004, and migrated to PES3, and unless EA come up with something REALLY special, there is no way in hell that i buy FIFA 2005 or EURO 2004
i think EA should either A) watch at least one game of soccer or B) Play PES or WE7 and learn, hell, PES3's DVD version is the sweetest thing!

Here's my VERY comprehensive wish-list of improvements for FIFA 2005. Some of the stuff has been said before, but its stuff that matters to me too.


LIST
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1) Add Holland national team.

2) Add the Saudi Arabian national team. Yes, I know, they're not a force to be reckoned with on the world stage, but they're a major force in Asia that has stayed at the top for the last 20 years. If winning 3 out 5 Asian Cup titles and playing in each of those finals is not an accomplishment, I don't know what is. And I don't think they would charge an arm and a leg like the KNVB either...

3) Oh, please don't get rid of the Turkish national team. I usually notice that as soon as I start getting too happy about something, its gone. And please bring back the Turkish League, or at least two of the other big Turkish Clubs, Fenerbahce SK (current Turkish league champs) and Besiktas JK.

4) Add more national teams in general- there's not enough in Fifa 2004. If EA Sports can't get licenses to authentically represent / recreate some of those teams, put in generic teams with fake names and generic kits. Not the best scenario, but at least that way, all we have to do is remake the kits and retouch the stats, instead of having to replace one national team to add another (like the patch with Holland replacing Urugauy).

5) Speaking of retouching stats, please bring back the in-game creation center where we can fix faces, change numbers and change stats, change kits (or at least colors, in case of generic kits).

6) Ability to buy players from any team / league.

7) Ability to set up custom tournament / league - international or club, group/elimination or elimination, one-or-two leg games, etc. This can still be done in Fifa 2004, with clubs, but I don't want to have to edit the teams in the FA Cup to play a best-of-europe tourney. I like to have the ability to make my own league with all my favorite world clubs.

8) I don't know why, but sometimes, I could have my player facing one direction and i hit pass and instead of passing to the player straight in that direction, it will pass the ball to someone who's standing 25 degrees off that direction. That's very frustrating. And maybe it's just me, but the throughpass in Fifa 2004 seems pointless and completely ineffective.

9) Please make it not as easy to score from 30 yards out. It's good once in a while, but it gets really boring quick, and I get pissed at people who don't even make the effort to build a good attack and just take shots from way out hoping to get lucky (and then they do, like 3 times in a game!)


11) A lot of the stuff in FIFA 2004 is locked into the career mode. I'd like to be able to do all that stuff outside that mode too.

12) When I start a career mode with a big team like AC Milan, I'd like to be playing in a European tournament instead of having to wait one season to earn that right.

13) Add Penalties to practice mode. I know penalty kick techniques haven't changed much over the years in the game, but I'd like to be able to get a feel for it.

14) Also, something is very wrong with team ratings, when 15 weeks into the season, Modena is second in Serie A and Juventus is lying in a lowly 15th. It gets further frustrating that my 4th placed AC Milan beat Modena 3-1 with ease, while Juventus schooled me 5-1. A team in 15th place can't possibly be playing that good. In all fairness to EA Sports, my opponents usually play as well as they should in real life when I have a match with them, but the simulated match results for the computer controlled teams are just too weird. A shock every once in a while is fine.

15) I don't want to have to play 2 other Italian clubs in my Champions League group besides AC Milan. It doesn't happen that way.

16) Okay, here's what else doesn't happen in real leagues, or especially Serie A. You don't play the same team back to back in league match-ups (not talking about two leg playoff games). Usually in a league, you play each team once before you go around and face them again. Back to back matches with the same team may happen in the NBA regular season, but not in European soccer.

17) I'm curious if Football Fusion is just on the PS/2 version, or if it's on the PC version too. I'm in the US, and I bought FIFA Soccer 2004 (which I expect would be the exact same product as FIFA Football 2004, just titled differently for marketing purposes), and I don't have Football Fusion (or even Soccer Fusion) for that matter. Why not?

18) Along the same lines, this one's for the folks at EASports.com who run the US Fifa Soccer website- STOP TREATING AMERICAN CUSTOMERS LIKE THE BASTARD STEPCHILD! We deserve a comprehensive website too. The UK website is filled with news, helpful stuff and better graphics, while the American website is just a drab, near static webpage. I pay just as much money to EA Sports to buy their games, so be fair to us.

19) When my winger / midfielder is going down the wing (running or sprinting, say down the right wing) and I try to cross the ball or lob it in the box with 'A', I hate it when he lobs it straight out of the pitch, instead of crossing left into the box. I mean STRAIGHT!

20) Right after the corner animation stops (when the taker places the ball), I'd like to be brought back to my camera mode. It sucks when the corner is played and the ball is deflected and I am hitting buttons blindly because I don't know where to clear the ball because I can't see the rest of my players.

21) How about some flags on the corners?

22) Some animated substitutions please. I'd like to see one guy come on and the other guy leave.

23) A lot of the music in the game is stuff that people in the US have never heard. How about having music that the average american listens to for Fifa SOCCER 2005?

24) Like someone else said, I'd like to be able to see my entire squad on one screen when I'm selecting my team, instead of only being able to see 8 of them at a time. Also, I'd like to be able to position my players when I choose a formation. Like move them around a little if I choose 4-2-4 so two of my forwards are spread really wide.

25) In career mode, the way the stats section is organized is RETARDED! I can see who my team's top scorers are, but there's no LEAGUE TOP SCORERS / BOOKINGS section. That stuff matters more than what my shooting average is. Again, this is soccer, not basketball. And by default, how about sorting by goals scored? All this stuff used to be in your older games, so it's frustrating cuz it feels like you guys took a step backwards!

26) When I'm seeing the league standings / table, I'd like to be able to see at least the following on one screen (P-W-D-L-Pts). Its nice that you have it further broken down into home games and away games and all, and I don't mind scrolling for it, but the basic stuff needs to be on one screen.

27) I like to be able to go back and see my results from previous games in a list, instead of having to scroll back and forth on a calendar, and also be able to see how the other teams did in their respective matches. In other words, have a RESULTS section.


28) PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, make the menus better. Take your pick from any of your older games, I've never had a problem with the menus until this year.A lot of the above can be summed up with: BAD BAD MENUS! MAKE THEM BETTER, MAKE THEM LIKE YOU USED TO!

29) How about DIRECT IP Connect?



THANK YOUS!
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That was the bad stuff.. Now, here's some stuff I'd like to thank the makers of FIFA 2004 for. I hope we see more of this again next year:

Thank you for that free season of online game playing!

Thank you for bring Perluigi Collina to the game!! Next year, you guys should add that other famous referee, the tall, skinny (lanky) Dutch dude.. I forget his name.

Thank you for the wonderful graphics and sound! And for superbly recreating the San Siro among other stadiums!

Back in early 2003 I was introduced to the FIFA series with a bootleg copy of FIFA 2002. At that time I liked the game for the amout of teams (specially national teams) and the possibility to edit the kits and stuff. But I got disappointed with the fact that the editing tools were not provided by EA itself, so I had to handle game crashes here and there. But I shouldn't complain since I haven't paid for the game.

So FIFA 2003 came by with a lot of promises, nice screenshots from sites and magazine. Then I decided to buy the game. For my surprise, some of the features I've liked the most in previous edition weren't there, like weather selection, 1-2 passes and, of course, the amout of national teams of FIFA 2002. The lack of control in the gameplay pissed me off so much that I asked myself what did I have in mind when I decided to buy that game.

Then, Creation Centre, the first official FIFA tool was promised. After a considerable amount of time it was released and all I had to say was "Oh, My, is this for real?". It is something that might have been asked before but how did proffessional software developers managed to build a tool like that? I mean, a couple of guys out there that received NO MONEY managed to release Fed2002 or some other Mr. Santarelli's wonders and *GK's? That dissappointed me so much that I decied to NEVER buy a FIFA game again. My copy of FIFA 2003 is still gathering dust on my shelf until today.

Then, FIFA 2004. Some of the anger had been vanished along the months and I had in my mind that EA were professional people and somehow the mess with 2003 was because of a hurry to release the game (do you remember that 2003 demo? Were they being serious expecting that someone could by the game from a demo like that?). Back to 2004. Practice mode, more control of the players, off the ball, minikits (that was the only good thing from 2003. All the promised features seemed to be OK. I decided to give EA another try. Then I bought the game again.

I don't want to be repetitive so for reasons like the previous stated here it took me a couple of weeks more to forget it on my shelf than in the previous year. Some of the mess of 2003 were corrected but I was tired to score from unrealistic out of area shots or Creation Centre, that was as awful as its predecessor.

So why I'm still here on these forums and why I still care about the FIFA series since I am so dissapointed? There are three reasons. I like football. I like to draw and collect the so called football kits. And I do have one of the most fundamental qualities of an human being: HOPE. I hope that somehow people of EA Sports start to care about the community of players providing professional tools for people who want to spend some time to create a more realistic game with authentic kits and player names. And, of course, providing a decent gameplay.

There are people out there who don't want to play with players called NED 1, NED 2, NED 3 wearing a crappy orange kit.

EA has a lot to prove in order to make me buy another of their games in the future.

another thing, EA's faces, especially original faces look too much like cartoon, why dont you guys copy and paste them right from the pictures, and make the resolution 256 * 512 ?! Copy and paste from the pic looks much more realistic.
Just kidding : EA ! Hire me to make faces ! I want that !
Remember, I just kidding.

and another thing, the width of the body are too unrealistic, make that bigger

EA SPORTS will try their best to implement some of these grouses in FIFA 2006. Then again, they may lose this list... somehow...

they manage to do that every year, so don't worry about it:p

Somtimes I wonder who makes this games are. I'm getting more and more shure that they never have tuched a football once. It's frustrating that your oponent meets the ball, when you can't move. Another thing: You can't pass trough to your self (the player who passed is out of control and stops for a few seconds) And it somtimes imposible to switch to the player you want to use. I don't wanna intercept with a player who's not on the screen. I want to use the best plased player I can see!

In FIFA I always have the idea that every shot from the same position will look exactly the same. The player shoots exactly the same, the keeper reacts exactly the same, the players close to the player will react exactly the same (if they react that is). It doesn't even care if you shoot with, let's say a 3rd division striker with Buffon in goal, and van Nistelrooy shooting with a 3rd division keeper in goal. They will shoot the ball exactly the same, the keeper will react exactly the same.

The game lacks variety

Fifa has disappointed me, because there is never CSKA SOFIA in it!!!

Fifa 2005 wishlist:

1) Please have the career mode more realistic in 2005 then 2004. There should be more tournaments during the season, you should be able to trade players and buy players....and the training should be an actual traing session instead of just choosing the option to to train by just clicking on the train icon.
The point is...the career mode should be more realistic.

2) FIFA 2004 had no create a player or create a team, etc. HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE THESE OPTIONS!?!?!?!

3) Lastly, tell me if you agree which you probably do.....THE ONLINE PLAY IS HORRIBLE.......dont you guys agree??????? I dont think EA spent enough time with the online play. You can never get a tournament started... and you rarely ever get connected witht the other player. The connection almost always fails. Please fix this in FIFA 2005! I dont think EA spent enough time with the online play for FIFA 2004 because they didnt realize how many people like playing soccer games on ps2 and playing soccer games online on ps2.


IF YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT THE ONLINE PLAY IS HORRIBLE AND YOU THE CONNECTION ALMOST ALWAYS FAILS FOR YOU PLEASE TELL ME SO THAT I KNOW I AM NOT ALONE AND IF THIS DOESNT HAPPEN TO YOU....PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO FIX IT.

Originally posted by AhmedK
...Fans of any of the major soccer games can post in this thread to tell EA and the rest of the forum what you didnt like in the past FIFAs, what you dont like about the current FIFA games, and what impressions the screens and videos of FIFA2005 have given you...


http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90690

FIFA 2005? What's disappointing already is not hearing of a totally new gameplay engine. Its more of the same; last year it was "Off-the-Ball Control," all nice and neat with its own little "TM." This year its...what is it? Oh yeah, an "all-new fluid player kinetic system," lol. What was it in 2003? 2002?

Sad, but not for those with gaming PCs and the enjoyment that comes from watching a mod community work (to get around that kit license thing)...PES4 is coming.

Flame away if you want; I would hope you'd read my lengthy diatribe at the link provided above. My odium for both the EA world football game development process, and time-wasters, is legion.

The transfersystem have to change. It's crap. Yesterday I played with Real Madrid, when A Bilbao bid one million, for one of my players. Since I know how unstable the trans.system is I tried to sell for 500 000, but then Bilbao rejected the offer? "I wish the creators could have shown a bit more common sense...somtimes;)
If we dont talk about graphics, I think the whole 2004 is a step backwards from 2003

Is the online play as bad for you as it is for me? I almost never get connected to the other player!???????

Alright, just stumbled on this forum and would like to give my opinion too.

I've played every FIFA game since FIFA 98, each for as long as until the next edition came out, in both single- and multiplayer.

First of all, I don't really have anything negative to say about the atmosphere (created by graphics, sound etc) in the game, except that the chants are sometimes not very well chosen ("Ein Rudi Völler" in Germany games, but no simple "Deutschland"-chant? etc). The stadium selection is good, and I love the new lower leagues with their small stadiums. Only complaint is that there are sometimes clear mistakes in the league design, e.g. in the Swiss league there is a club called FC Wil which plays in a small stadium of around ~5'000 spectators.. in FIFA2004, they play in the huge ~80'000 Olympic stadium... it's not like that would really bother me that much, but I can't believe that noone would notice that. But let's move to the more important stuff..

As the developers probably know, the point of criticism has always been FIFA's gameplay. To me, the game still feels too much like as if it was based on scripted events. If you compare it to PES, a FIFA match is a lot more predictable in a sense that the same situations appear over and over again. After playing a FIFA game for a few weeks, there is hardly ever a situation again where I say "wow, that came unexpected." - which happens lots of time when I watch real football, or play PES. For example the shooting system needs much improvement, after a few matches you know exactly from what angle you must shoot to score, and from what angle it is impossible to score. That is not only very unrealistic, but also makes the game much more boring. Same goes for situations like e.g. the goalkeeper sprinting out of his box to catch the ball in front of an attacker - why can't he ever not succeed and e.g. fumble the ball in the air? Why can't he come too late sometimes? In general I would say the goalkeeper KI needs a lot of improvement, and I do not mainly mean that you need to make them more intelligent, but more realistic. In FIFA2004 goalkeepers are very unrealistically strong in 1-to-1 situations, and terribly weak in freekicks and long range shots. But I guess you know that you need to work on the goalkeepers, since the problem has been there since the very first FIFA I played.
Basically there's so many small things I could talk about here. The tricking system is very bad in FIFA 2004, as are the corners and indirect freekicks - the idea of fighting for the right spot to make a header is very good, but it is not well done.. sometimes the attacker can not push any button at all and end up scoring because one of his teammates goes on the spot, etc.. it's too much based on luck right now to score from a corner. And it's a bit too easy as well. What I like is the off-the-ball idea, but it also needs improvement (although I can use it quite well after some training). Oh, and I almost forgot: PLEASE introduce a good penalty system. Right now it doesn't even matter if I shoot the penalty very weak, or perfectly strong - it's always a chance of 1:3 that the GK will hold it. What also needs to be done better is the ball physics (copy PES there), and the game needs to be slowed down a bit by standard.

But, to say again, the most important thing you need to do is make the game more UNPREDICTABLE, and therefore more REWARDING to the player who spends more than 10 hours with it. If you don't succeed in that some time soon, I'm afraid PES will even win long time FIFA players like me on their side.

Thank you and greetings from Switzerland.

Here are my ideas to improve it for 2005. I have always played the PC version, so it's my point of reference....

I have to lead off with this one - stop shortchanging the PC gamers and put the regular 45 minute half option back in the game. It's a grave, grave sin that it was omitted in 2004, and because of that alone has reduced my desire to play the game....hurts the realism terribly and without it you cant even begin to call the title a simulation. Such a mistake is nearly unforgivable......

More national squads - there should be a way to keep the depth of club selections while adding more national teams. 35 is all too few

Custom leagues and cups were part of the fun and versatility, and maybe increase the control options so it includes more than one team, esp. during a custom tournament....

A wild thought but since EA liscences so well, try acquiring the A- league ones, with logos, in addition to MLS, effectively creating a second US division option

Add the weather back into the game in some reasonably realistic way....

Simple requests but, remember EA, if you cant keep fan interest, you have no one to blame but yourselves

In Fifa 2003, when the season was over the poorest teams were relegated from the division, even in countries with only one league in the game, for instance Norway. The two or three poorest teams in Tippeligaen were changed with some of the best (reallife) teams from the 1. division. This teams had made up players and wrong colors at their shirts, but it was still more realistic.

I've talked about it before but the transfer system sucks. When you are club from a little nation, you can't buy big stars. you can't afford them. For instance, The former Rosenborg player John Carew (playded for Roma last season) costs 13 mil. I'd like to buy him back, but with a transfer budget at 6 mil after 4 seasons it's a bit difficult I have to sell 14-15 players to get so much money.

When a player is injuried, you can see expected return date. Why are they always expected back 3 years before they were hurt? It must be pretty frustrating for a manager in february 2007, to hear that his player is back in december 2003?

EA shuld have used more of fifa 2003 when they make the new game. It had lacs also, but not compared to -04

Hope anyone agree with me

Is the online play as bad for you as it is for me?!?!?!? please answer me someone in the next post.... I really need to know if it is just me that can never get connected with the player or if someone else is haveing the same problem!!

Thnx soccer gamers....(PLEASE ANSWER!!!! :o)

Like zacharias i've followed the FIFA franchise as far back as 97. And it seems to me that along with all the OFF the Ball

changes, its started to go downhill in the enjoyment department. in my opinion FIFA 2002 was the most fun to play and

WC2002 had some great features as well. 2003 & 2004 couldnt quite match up to them. The ball being disconnected from the foot

sounds good but wasnt really neccecary. You've tried to make the game more real but in doing so its now less fun.

The main thing EA needs to do is forget about all the stadiums and [I]better chants[I/] and work more on gamleplay.
The inability for worldclass players like Henry to run past or around a defender is totaly wrong. Henry is known for his

galloping runs down the field, and this is whats missing. Look at the FIFA 2002 game and see what fun soccer really is. watch

qingers like Figo or Ronaldo do step overs to get past a defender or Henry or Raul do shot fakes to trow off the defense or

goal keeper. This is where FIFA2002 had it made yet didnt over do it. I play mainly on XBox and am happy to hear the Xbox

live deal go thru. There are soooo many Little things to change that they add up to quite a large problem. Employ me as a

game tester and i'll tell you whats wrong and what needs to be changed. Here are some suggestions from me EA:

For 2005:
The players need to know (be programed to know)
*who is on their team &
*which direction they are going.
*where they are on the pitch.
Corners/non direct free kicks need to go back to the old 1,2,3 option. (or mabey 1,2,3,shoot)
You need to be able to put your own curve on a pass or shot!!!!
and trick moves need to be like 2002/03 and actually get you around a defender.
(for a full list scan thru 2005 general requests forum an idea)

And a quick question. what was with the 'walk mode'?? who or when do you use that in a game?

The good points to keep are:
the free kicks.
graphics (of course).
crossing system.

but for me fifa 2002 had it all.
Remake that game and you've got gold EA. Pure Gold.

This is gonna be long.
I think that the FIFA series has declined after FIFA 99 and inclined a bit with 2002 and 2002 World Cup and then gone straight back down.
First of all, in FIFA 99 and the rest of FIFAs before 2003 you had lots of dribblings....and besides that...they were actually effective.
Granted...in PES 3 you don't have a lot of dribbles, but the ones that exist are effective if used properly.
The players are VERY rigid. They don't have natural movements...it's impossible to get past an opponent just a quick turn...because there's no such thing as a quick turn.
Also...the passes are awful. Players often pass where THEY want, not where you want.
The sprint button is also pretty useless. It's pointless trying to go by a player using speed, even if he's slow as a snail...it's just impossible. And if you try to use the shift key, your player will just run in stupid directions, and if you're near the touchline, he'll probably go out of bounds with it.

Oh, and indeed you need to be able to put curve on a shot.
And the tackling system is a joke due to the poor way of controlling a player.

Is the online play as bad for you as it is for me?!?!?!? please answer me someone in the next post.... I really need to know if it is just me that can never get connected with the player or if someone else is haveing the same problem!!

Thnx soccer gamers....(PLEASE ANSWER!!!! )

dont know.

I really want the refs TO WEAR DIFFERENT COLORS THAN THAT OF THE TEAMS ON THE FIELD!!!

Its ridiculous how, if Im wearing black, the ref weask black....If Im wearing white, and the other team is wearing red, the ref wears red abd black, or green and black against a green team.
thats really annoying.

FIFA has gone downhill after WC 98. Ball physics suck, gameplay is ****e. FIFA 2003 was the last one i played, in comparison to other FIFAs it's the best one since WC 98. Still needs improvements. I'm about to get my hands on Euro 2004, borrowing a CD from my mate, but he told me he sucks.

i have been dissapointed when either me or the cpu pass the ball and your player is just standing there on the spot and easily gives away possesion to the oposition, if it is to be like real football i'm sure all good soccer players know you always have to run towards the ball in a situation like this:rockman:

That new Video at IGN sucks ASS. The movement looks fake as hell. I dont know about you all but the movements just dont seem right. And what is up with the inflated heads. Goddam the proportion of head to body is just wrong. WTF??? is this a new video or what???:kader:

looks like the AFA is gonna be on fifa 2005,its listed in the international leagues and clubs,only river and boca are visible,they wouldnt have put the flag there if they didnt put their league

VIVE ARGENTINA:rockman:

G'day

I've played countless hours of soccer 2002 against my friend and I'd just like to say its some of the best gaming I've ever played

But if I smart pass a ball to the beginning of a run instead of the end one more time.... I'm gonna scream. A player should never have to run backwards to get a ball.

Now, it sounds like you've got things tweaked when it comes to first touch, so I'll stay mum about that. But here's a list of other things I would change:

Translucent radar - it shouldn't block field of view (I know it can be turned off)
Tagged off screen pass choices - there must be a man there, I'm sure of it!
Corner, free and goal kick trajectories - just where is the ball going to go?
Automatic tackling - I'm there and I want the ball, obviously!
Smarter/closer spotting - leave no man out in the open!!
Adjustable camera angles - a tracking camera with adjustable zoom especially.
Saveable replays - the xbox has a hard drive after all!


As I said, I've played the game for hours and I wouldn't really change that much. Its good to see that you are still seeking ways to improve it. Maybe you guys should make a futuristic fifa 2050 :D no?

there are so many things that fifa has disappointed me with that it would be a waste of time to list them all

what's wrong with fifa 2004?

everything

throw the game into garbage and make a new one

*Deep Breath*

1. Ball Physics- EA spend so much time on getting kits and other peripheral stuff right but neglect ball physics completely:kader: for Christ's sake, watch a match fellas! A football does not move anything like it does in your games. The lofted passes in particular are an absolute joke. As for the shooting, the ball moves like a f*cking bullet! In a real match you can easily track the ball from the players foot to the back of the net. Not in FIFA. way too fast. Also, the way that the ball bounces around (or doesn't as is often the case) makes it seem like it's half flat. Complete crap in short.

2. Player responsiveness- The way that players respond to the controlls is mesmerising in it's sluggishness. It's like all of the players are on morphine (or perhaps the developers).

3. Other Game Engine Stuff- This was just so bad in general in 2004 that I'm going to limit my complaints to a few specifics as it would take forever to cover everything. So..

A). Shot targeting. Well, it's sh*te currently. Why bother carefully crafting a goal when you can just smash it in from 30 yards constantly with little skill. Why not make it so that the shot responds to the exact direction of the analogue stick. The height of shots should also be more user controlled.

B) Dribbling. Again, sh*te. The responsiveness problem is a big part of it, making it seem like you are up against pyschic defenders often. And why do the slowest defenders suddenly become like the f*cking road-runner once you have passed them!?:kader:

C) Scripting- Still a major problem.

Well, there's lots of other stuff, but I'm just not angry enough to write any more. What's the point right? I mean, every year we write our wishlists and complaints, and every year EA fail to listen. Every year they crap on for months about how good the game will be this year and how there is a great new gadget, only to release yet another pile of sh*t that resembles football about as much as a banana resembles a grandfather clock. I bought every FIFA game from '95 onwards, but I will not PAY for another. Ideally I would love to see a great game from EA this year, but realistically It will probably be contemptable again. If that is the case I hope that it gets outsold by PES as EA simply do not merit our money or support any longer. :mrpimp:

The faces have dissappointed me and its still getting worser (maybe not witha godaass graphs card) but c. ronaldo is not coming damn face its **** IM SO SRRY FOR LANGUAGE

Ok, there's a lot of things that need to be fixed in the game, but I will start with the most annoying to me, being the huge Benfica supporter that I am.

PLEASE BE REALISTIC WITH PLAYER RATINGS.
The Portuguese league is rated worst than English and Italian 2nd divisions. Please, please, be more accurate. Portugal has one of the best league's in Europe, the least you can do is put some effort into it. In FIFA2004 I never finished a season because it made me so mad with **** like that.

CREATION CENTRE.
Please include a good creation centre with the console versions (the very least with XBox). So in the case if you decide to make the Portuguese league in 1 hour, at least fans can make it more real.

CARELESS BUGS MUST GO.
Honestly... it really boggles my mind how stupid some options are in FIFA2004. I mean really, grow up, the game looked like it was published by a f@cking 10 year old.

PLAYER LOOKS.
Why are all Portuguese people blonde? THE MAJORITY HAVE DARK/BLACK HAIR.


P.S. - Does anybody know if there will be a creation centre for console and if yes can you edit stats/looks of players?

Also will the stadiums of EURO2004 be included for Portuguese teams, or at the very least, will Benfica, Sporting and Porto have their own stadiums?

Any reply would be appreciated,

Thanks.

I WANT THE STEPOVER. THIS WAS FUN. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL PUT IT BACK

My biggest disappointments:

1. NO RESPECT for South American buyer (there are a lot of us in the US… trust me!!!)
Why? JUST READ BELOW!!!!!!

2. Only 1 South American league. Put Argentinean league (and no, I am not Argentinean).

3. Boca and River are not the only clubs (outside of Brazilian clubs) that are any good in South America. The Once Caldas from Colombia won the Libertadores Cup (beating Boca), and Cienciano of Peru won the last S. American cup (they beat River Plate). In other words, INCLUDE MORE SOUTH AMERICAN CLUBS. At least the ones that have won lately!!!!!
Hey guys, did it ever occur to you that Brazil and Argentina export a lot of players to Europe (I mean soccer SIMs are your business right? Hello… hello)? So then, why did you FAIL to include Brazilian teams or the two Argentinean teams in the transfer option (career mode)? After all that would make it realistic.

4. Only 40 national squads in FIFA 2005 (Where is Colombia, Peru, Venezuela).
We really feel left out of your game!!!!!

The following are other types of problems:

5. NO INTERNATIONAL tournament in FIFA 2004

6. FIFA 2004: NO Champions Cup or EFA unless you are playing Career? Big Problem guys!!!!!!!

7. FIFA 2004: The interface/menus SUCK!!!!! Don’t try to fix what is not broken; FIFA 2003 had good, simple and most importantly, practical menus.

8. FIFA Rewards?
Rewards? What rewards?
You mean to tell me that after sitting around for a year, the best EA could do is reward you with the ability to view what kits look like (I mean view 1/3 of the shirts anyway) and play with some team’s 3rd kit. And I thought giving you a few extra stadiums was dull (the rewards on FIFA 2003).
Oh yeah, the Hall of kits in FIFA 2003 showed the whole shirt not just 1/3. EA took something that was given in FIFA 2003, took it away for FIFA 2004, and decided to call it a reward (say what?????????????). Let’s not mention EURO 2004 which had CERO rewards!!!!!!!!

9. FIFA 2002 was great because of the amount of international teams… Australia, Peru, Chile etc were included (even though uniforms were wrong for 40% of the teams).

10. Celebrations are dull. FIFA World Cup 2002 had awesome celebrations. It made you feel like you were part of the game.

11. Player editor taken out after FIFA 2002. Why? I can’t think of one good reason why you would decide to do that.

Final thoughts:
When I bought FIFA 2004 I was excited because they said they would have the Americas Cup. So I figured they would have a tournament like La Copa De Libertadores (the main S. American Club Championship). Instead they have this fake cup that even includes MLS teams (say what???????????????). Where are the rest of the S. American teams? NO RESPECT… NON AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S.: Not all of us have time for career mode, so please include more tournaments (like you did in FIFA 2003.
Oh yeah, don’t ever get rid of Korean chants… they are electrifying!!!!!! You will include Korea in FIFA 2005 right?
:)

I forgot:
It was very disappointing that you decided to take away the ability to dive at the goalie (and earn a red card of course). The game is a SIM right? Well then, we should be able to foul the goalie if we want to. It is very ANNOYING when you control my player after the opposing goalkeeper has the ball.
:f***:

Originally posted by Brett
I forgot:
It was very disappointing that you decided to take away the ability to dive at the goalie (and earn a red card of course). The game is a SIM right? Well then, we should be able to foul the goalie if we want to. It is very ANNOYING when you control my player after the opposing goalkeeper has the ball.
:f***:

Heh that was fun, specially on multiplayer, on FIFA 2004 you could do that with the keeper rush, however the keeper never gets booking it was just foul but at times it wasn't so you could make goals with your keeper. And as the keeper never gets injured and yours never get booking you can go in as much as you want. But was a bit annoying 'cuz using the keeper rush the keeper instead of getting the ball and move with it it goes and does a slide.

What was dissappointing last year was the inability to have an international tournament. I know that said this year you can have custom ones but in the latest diary (3) they said it was for an 8 person tournament with your friends. Hey....I want a true International Tournament that i can play in that allows for more than 8 teams. Please!

25 faces really doesen't cut it- we need enough so only 2 or 3 players max in each league use each face- so we're talking hundreds. And come on the Porgogese league is one of the best, if not best, in the world

Probably 25 is few, but combine it with the different hair styles, hair colors, skin colors etc. And guess that should make it.

look guys, i agree with all of you on the changes (massive ones) that need to be made on fifa. But they wont make them. Why would you change something that's already working (selling) sooo well? If people eat crap, then they'll keep putting out crap, it's that simple.

Originally posted by the twin
And come on the Porgogese league is one of the best, if not best, in the world

:rofl:

Originally posted by shadowofanubis6
look guys, i agree with all of you on the changes (massive ones) that need to be made on fifa. But they wont make them. Why would you change something that's already working (selling) sooo well? If people eat crap, then they'll keep putting out crap, it's that simple.

If I ate crap I'm certain that I wouldn't keep on eating it. I can't imagine anyone that would.

the tackling is a huge flaw. for example ill be henry against a slow defnder, the defender will firstly catch up and faultlessly take the ball away from me.

EA always removes something good and added it back in again for example

Fifa 2003: You couldnt header the ball on your own
: You Could lob the keeper

Fifa 2004: You can header the ball on own
: You cant lob the keeper

:kader:

Lob the keeper? I can't remember.... What was that?

the thing that dissapoints me is the crowd.
No flares, no flags, bad quality of fans, they are all wearing differnet colour jerseys, there needs to be more chants, fog from the flares, flares onto the feild..

you need better atmosphere around the stadium..
im sure EVERYONE wants something like this and not boring crowds who dont even sport their teams jerseys in the game.

also, when the ball hits the back of the net ..the mesh is as hard as a rock and moves a little..looks unrealistic

No own team creating option in FIFA2004/CC2004... that sucked big. :f***:

Hope to see it in FIFA 2005. :mrpimp:

Cya !

Just 10 minutes ago I watched the FIFA 2005 Diary with the Producer of the game at www.easports.com! This guy says, he answers the most talked about questions in the forums...but who da fu** wants to know something about Non-Interactive Sequences or Fusion...all of these clips are just commercials for their stupid game which has nothing to do with real soccer experience! After making for over 12years soccer games, these "EA"-Guys are still not be able to let the net "shake" when the ball hits the goal!!!!! How could a soccer game producer be so blind???!!! You wanna know what my question is to this guy? Why the hell are you guys are not be able to let the ball fly like in Pro Evolution Soccer Games? Why are you not able to revolution the fu**ing FIFA Gameplay???Look at Pro Evolution Soccer!!!Even the first Pro Evolution Soccer Game one the PS ONE has a better Gameplay than FIFA 2005 and 2004 and 2003 and so on...Fu**cking EA, still making unrealistic soccer games!!!STOP IT and GIVE Konami the Licences for the teams and players...

try and update fifa 98... fifa 98 had realistic gameplay since u can move realistically (u actually have freedom, in fiifa 04 u dont have freedom when you are running with the ball)

when ur an attacker you shouldnt need a special move to get past the defenders, as long as the right technique is used its fine, but in ur games there has to be a special move or something to get past them which is annoying

Yasin Demirel is my new hero!!!

GREAT POST BRO!!!! Just complete and utter TRUTH! not one bit of fan-boyism! (beleive it or not). the man made a simple comparison.

First post too, keep it up man! :rockman:

What makes me really annoyed about fifa and othre sports games is that theres no real variation in players bodies. In fifa 2k4 everyone was stocky. Thierry Henry didnt even look like he does when hes out on the field dancing around. Patrick Viera wasnt even lanky. Players should look characteristic from a distance in their height, build and in the way they move.

The atmosphere in football is one of the things that puts it into a class of its own. Ea have partially captured that with some pretty cool chants, but surely more effort could be put into the crowd. When a goal is scored, the crowd should rise up like a real match, and the noise should be longer. If its a really big match , itd be cool f they could make the camera shake when a goal is scored. I think more corwd - match interaction is needed.

You can never have enough stadiums EA!

Id also like to see proper national teams. ie, in fifa 2k4 have of australias team was wrong.

Theres more but i cant think right now.

CMon EA look at all your fans, you guys have the money lets hope you have the talent.

WHy the hell soccergaming, is my old username not working. What did i do wrong!:f***:

No Argentina league..!

I hope the online play is better in FIFA 2005 because the online gaming now for FIFA 2004 is horrible(I ALMOST NEVER GET A CONNECTION ESTABLISHED). Is the online play as bad for you as it is for me??

Please answer and give me feedback!

Thanks

I hope EA still have time!

Please EA! Your chants are great, generally crowd atmosphere is good. But to represent the diverstiy of culture in football and to generally make the game a more authentic experience, it would be realy awesome if EA could put unique goal scoring noises for each country.

Ive said it before, but the sound of the spanish roar is totally dfferent to that of english or italian. Surely it wouldnt take that much effort but it would create a whole new experience when a goal is scored.

Originally posted by hammett
I hope EA still have time!



For which year?

this year. would they update the demo to that extent?

I was only kiddin:p

Ofcourse there is no time for this year, check your diary. Game will be in stores in less than 29 days...

In ALL aspects and most important of all: THE GAMEPLAY:f***: :f***: :f***:

Every time they fix something, the break something else.

Fifa 99 world class was too hard, 2000 was too easy.
2001 and 2002 I thought were great, however in 2002 you could score from the half way line, I know Becks did it once but evey match, duh!
2003, headers were screwed up.
2004 THE MENU SYSTEM, THE CONTROL PADS, THE GOD AWFUL DISCRACEFULLY PANTS MUSIC!!!
The cruddy multiplayer has been a long running issue too.
If 2005 doesn't work with my saitek 2500, im mailing the game and the pad with a bill for the both of them to EA.

On an off topic note, they wrecked command and conquer too.

^^^ hey you know I remember when I first played Fifa2004 on the PS2.

I try to look for Controller Settings since I got myself used to FIFA 98 believe it or not. AND WHAT DO I ENCOUNTER????????

you cant change any settings. Hopefully in 2005 they wont make the same retarded mistake. How can something so SIMPLE be left out of a HUGE GAME????????

I dont know I guess EA is famous for that.

I didn't really like the music in Fifa 2004. Especially because there were one or two songs that kept playing again and againnnnnnnn ! I feel like the controls aren't bad .. maybe because I've gotton used to them but I feel like they are easy to use. That's my view ...

I play PES cause i dont like the nets in FIFA:-puke: :-puke:

muahahah I play pes because its like heroin,
if you ever get addicted to heroin, try switching to crack after, it doesnt work too well now does it...

the nets ? whats wrong with the nets in fifa ? lol who cares about nets, nah PES has great gameplay but i play fifa for the licences and stuff, when i get to pissed off about the crappy scripted gameplay in fifa i play some PES. mix PES and fifa together we would have one hell of a game !

Originally posted by wheed007
muahahah I play pes because its like heroin,
if you ever get addicted to heroin, try switching to crack after, it doesnt work too well now does it...

Jeez...i wont let my kids play PES then:o

Crack .. Heroin .. and then you have a GAME. The people on these forums are pretty cool but are you all there buddy ?

Im playing WE7/ Pro Evo 3, and the Fifa franchise proves yet again why it's no match for the Pro Evolution Soccer series....there's just no friggin' gameplay here!


BOCA JUNIORS

2O ARGENTINIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS

5 LIBERTADORES CUP

3 INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONS

are ALL the players in fifa 2005 the same height??? it sure looks like it to me, and they all have massive feet, probably why it looks like they cant kick the ball properly, every time you pass, shoot , cross, take penalty's etc etc. Or maybe having large feet helps the players get around the massive pitches

The aren't all the same height. Buy glasses.

FIFA 2005 disappointeted me allready switching to the club i support,and seeing the stats totally wrong compared to real life statistics, games and players ratings...:kader:

1) the gameplay really sucks, its nothing but realistic but, is not even playable, i mean, 2004 wasn't realistic either but at least the gameplay was more dinamic. Here the players are very "hard" (they look like are running with a stick in the ass..).

2) Rating are wrong. Arsenal and the FA premier league are way over rated. Arsenal is better than the national teams of france, argentina, brazil, italia??, that's really ridiculous.
The players on the premier league are over-rated , how much time in the real life has pat since an english team has winning something international? (Of course some english well hate my post)

3) Commentary. Again the same boring thing. The same words an phrases than a year ago and the 2003.2002, amazing!!

4) the dribble with the "shift" is do unrealistic!! any player of the world do the "bycicle" when in the real life, hardly only denilson, ronaldo, zidane and a few others can do that.

I have more but im tired of writing the post.

Originally posted by alou
Jeez...i wont let my kids play PES then:o

Actually i would like to comment on this...

:jambo: Some scientists have discovered that after a game of Counterstrike ur body releases 3 times more dopamine than if u take cocaine :boohoo::boyaka: :boohoo:...dopamine is a neurotransmitter that the drugs usually stimulates and that gives the rewarding feeling of :drevil: feeling good...

So dont think that the computergames dont work like drugs...why not let people with Parkinsons (they lack dopamine) disease play Counterstrike...may be it could be beneficial...

not having kore in 2005 big time mistake

Originally posted by roc

2) Rating are wrong. Arsenal and the FA premier league are way over rated. Arsenal is better than the national teams of france, argentina, brazil, italia??, that's really ridiculous.
The players on the premier league are over-rated , how much time in the real life has pat since an english team has winning something international? (Of course some english well hate my post)
[/B] That's always been the case.

Originally posted by roc
1) the gameplay really sucks, its nothing but realistic but, is not even playable, i mean, 2004 wasn't realistic either but at least the gameplay was more dinamic. Here the players are very "hard" (they look like are running with a stick in the ass..).

2) Rating are wrong. Arsenal and the FA premier league are way over rated. Arsenal is better than the national teams of france, argentina, brazil, italia??, that's really ridiculous.
The players on the premier league are over-rated , how much time in the real life has pat since an english team has winning something international? (Of course some english well hate my post)

3) Commentary. Again the same boring thing. The same words an phrases than a year ago and the 2003.2002, amazing!!

4) the dribble with the "shift" is do unrealistic!! any player of the world do the "bycicle" when in the real life, hardly only denilson, ronaldo, zidane and a few others can do that.

I have more but im tired of writing the post.

I totally agree on the fact that the premier League is overrated big time...but i think they wanna suck up for english fans!

with regards to WC qualifying, execept for fifa 98 :crazyboy: , there needs to be all international teams from all confederations, fully liscensed

I'm dissapointed with the crowd in FIFA 2005. In 2003 and 2004 you could see many different types of crowd. Now they only made 2 types:f***: . And every stadium is full again. Last year you had empty stadiums when you where playing badly.
I just don't understand why they take something out which is good.

1st of all i skipped 2003 & 2004. Now i noe most ov u guys out ther r d type who enjoy d "realistic atmosphere". Howevr there r a few ppl out ther(like me) who find 2005 realy boring coz of d lack of feeling in it. Hehe i reali enjoyed d corny music & overexagerated celebration cutscenes of 2002. As far as im concerned, i play d game 4 fun & watch football on d telly 4 all d real spills & thrills. Therefore itz back 2 2002 4 me. Gonna finish d career(d only thing i find kool in 2005) 1st though :D Oh yeah.........& d lack of an internal creation center sux too. Wif a 56K connection.......itz gonna take hours 4 me 2 download it wen & if it comes out :kader:

I love the game.:) But i know FIFA 2006 is going to be The best Game Ever Cant wait But i'm Enjoying FIFA 2005 and i'm very Happy with the Way They made it.:) There saving there Fantstic and Realistic Things For FIFA Genarations.:) :hump:

Originally posted by Olly-Henry89
I love the game.:) But i know FIFA 2006 is going to be The best Game Ever Cant wait But i'm Enjoying FIFA 2005 and i'm very Happy with the Way They made it.:) There saving there Fantstic and Realistic Things For FIFA Genarations.:) :hump:

How do u know that?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by AhmedK
If anyone is caught just blatantly flaming the games without reason, and seems to just want to make trouble,in any thread in the FIFA forums; this person will be given a YELLOW CARD, lasting for at least 2-3 weeks with a further RED card if it happens again

fifa is SHíT cause i said so, and i have a bigger willy than you (H)

Gavin will be hanging effigy's of Danny Isaac & Ahmed at Aberdeen's next home game as a way to voice his anger at EA, and rightly so. Much like the effigy of Malcolm Glazer at Old Traff (H)

Turn Offsides Off

Fifa is good i liked 04 from the start but 2005 is alot better and i reckon van der sar in fulham is over rated at 93 and middlesborough 4 stars:rolleyes:

Originally posted by SuRFy
middlesborough 4 stars:rolleyes: I reckon that's fairly true:

2004/2005 Season
Goalkeeper
Carlo Nash
Bradley Jones
Mark Schwarzer

Defender
Colin Cooper
Michael Reiziger
Matthew Bates
Andrew Taylor
Tony McMahon
David Wheater
Franck Queudrue
Ugo Ehiogu
Chris Riggott
Gareth Southgate
Stuart Parnaby
Andrew Davies

Midfielder
Ray Parlour
Boudewijn Zenden
Stewart Downing
George Boateng
Gaizka Mendieta
Doriva

Attacking Midfielder
James Morrison
Anthony Peacock

Striker
Mark Viduka
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
Danny Graham
Szilard Nemeth
Malcolm Christie
Joseph-Desire Job

yup ;) Mendieta aint gettin any betta

If EA can keep the same format/features every year, they'll be great. Besides, Konami do very well in keeping the same format without erasing the great features year after year.

Okay, here's my things:
1. Licenses which is good they keep doing it every year. :)
2. Indoor soccer. Why EA never bring this one since FIFA RTWC '98 ? We want this back.
3. No linesmen in FIFA 2005 ?? What ?! They do this evvery year & EA erase them. Give me a break !
4. EA do very well to get licenses for the clubs & players. But, for national teams, EA can do unlicense for the NT. *Boom*

theres no linesmen and refs

Originally posted by niceman
How do u know that?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
easy every year a New FIFA come out rite derrr. lol well FIFA 2006 is going to be the BEST NEW ARSENAL stadium differnt and more Talented Players who nos how the CAREER mode is going to be set it's going to be amazing Trust me.:) :) :) :hump:

career mode makes me mad but this year they made me happy(H)

yeah sames lol

SAME ME.:rockman:

i think ea needs to put more leagues in it like some eastern european one like hte russian one thats pretty big and like the J-league

Thats right(H)

Correct :) :hump:

I think they got to make the game Bigger and harder so it's More Intersting for the FOOTBALL FANS.:hump: :)

Originally posted by Olly-Henry89
I think they got to make the game Bigger and harder so it's More Intersting for the FOOTBALL FANS.:hump: :)
much harder than the world class level????????????
Let them fix the bugs that make the game annoying and unfair an then think about something else

Originally posted by neo2006
much harder than the world class level????????????
Let them fix the bugs that make the game annoying and unfair an then think about something else
Very TRUE your rite.:hump: :rockman: :hump: :rockman:

Agreed mate :)

Yeah anyone else agree?:)

Last years fifa weather was absolute S***house it took me like 10 days ago for me to notice highbury never had a sunny day same with Generic olympic and thwe highbury pitch was always too dark !

Highbury's in England though...have you ever known London to be sunny?

Anyway, my major complaint is the menus. They're slow, the cursor blinks on and off, you have to click things at least twice before they finally respond, some items are totally clickable (including the text), while others are only icon-clickable (the text can't be clicked), but it's inconsistent...some parts are one way, some parts are another. There is no other game on the market (with the exception of FIFA 2004:p ) with such strangely bulky menus.

Originally posted by neo2006
much harder than the world class level????????????
Let them fix the bugs that make the game annoying and unfair an then think about something else
Very true. This is user editable anyway, so there is no need for EA to waste resources on it.

Originally posted by Yasin Demirel
..........Fu**cking EA, still making unrealistic soccer games!!!STOP IT and GIVE Konami the Licences for the teams and players...


:clapwap: :clapwap: :clapwap: :clapwap: :clapwap:

I just wish FIFA would make a game where a scoring a goal is almost better than sex. Well, maybe not to that extent but you know what I mean. When I score goals in FIFA, I just don't get that joy because it feels like I score the same goals over and over again.

I think the most important thing with any of these games is the "Online" experience.

The Development team for each EA Sports titles miss the point every year... FIFA, NHL and Madden.

A 1vs1 matchup is just lame. Why would any company in this modern age write new platforms for games that actually decrease the number of online players via direct TCP/IP with a new release?

2004 was a real eye opener for me and the group I play with, once NHL 2005 was released we all took a chance and got burned...we have actually uninstalled everything and probably won't go back to an EA title for any new sports games.

FIFA 2005 has already suffered that fate by our group after the demo failed to support direct TCP/IP play after the disater with FIFA 2004's direct TCP/IP. There was no way for us to sample the online play so we packed in our league plans for this year and are back into the FPS genre.

Take it for what it's worth...we got burned by 3 titles in 2004, got burned by one title in 2005...won't touch any EA Sports title for years to come which is the same sentiment by my fellow gamers.

If the type of games your designing are intended for people who like to sit in front of a PC and play against the AI then great job! However, you are also definately on your way to financial disaster ...the lonely boy club isn't that big.

MrSmee

Originally posted by havnachuk
I just wish FIFA would make a game where a scoring a goal is almost better than sex. Well, maybe not to that extent but you know what I mean. When I score goals in FIFA, I just don't get that joy because it feels like I score the same goals over and over again.

thats exactly how i feel. even if im losing on world class and i come back i still dont get as excited as i would with other sports games. its just too scripted. i always know whats going to happen. the game is fun though when playing someone in person. the computer is too predictable. on all levels i can dominate possession.

yes thats how i feel

when playing online its very fun but on world class its just toooo easy because the computer always does the same DAMN thing over and over

my name is Bill Wood. I review video games for Fuse TV and G-net TV. I also test/review games for Microsoft. My favorite genre of games are sports, namely soccer. I have been playing Fifa games since Fifa '94 (Fifa International), and in my opinion, Fifa 2002 World Cup is the best of the series. Anyway, I am adding to this thread because if you would like the DEFINITIVE list of things that should be added, left out, tweaked, or enhanced, I would be happy to write it all down. I just dont want to start it if I am not sure it will be read by someone who can actually use it! My email address is staydown11@hotmail.com, and on behalf of the Fifa fans, thank you for the series, and hopefully you will lend an ear so that we can put Fifa 2006 and the following editions at the top of the industry.

hi

yes. agree with you. the computer always does the same thing and i can remember what it will do when playing. that too easy and too boring.....

ijan_hackers
Malaysian soccer gamers

The AI is very easy to defeat it, the goalkepper may be the worst AI player from all is very dumb, you can get goals from about 4o yards without a problem. There should be more american teams and the most important competition of America the "Copa Libertadores de America".

Well the career mode is always been :sb9:, and the crowd ain't great either, i sur edo hope Fifa 2006 is a big improvement from 2005.

all the fifa games has always been good exept fifa 2005.
i mean common after 13 years in carrier mode every good player like ronaldo, henry, becks and many more is gone... many new player has been added after 13 seasons. and maybe we have 13 player in game who name is riera ortega. or 18 players who name is santos and so on..

League mod is bad to i think.. becuase u cant make a transfer.
and u can only play the league, no the cups. if u want to play the cups u have to choise it....


sory for my bad bad english

I'd say Fifa 2005 was way better than fifa 2004, Id rather play 15 years of repetitiveness than 4-5 years in 2004.

Disappointed - one 's', two 'p's.

Please learn how to spell!

As for the topic...

Corners - they're terrible.
We should be able to play short corners, aim for the goal from corners, lob outside the box for a 25 yard volley, etc.

Sounds - It sounds as though the chants were recorded by about a dozen people, and then someone put a load of reverb on - not good.
The chants are ok, but they aren't region-specific. It doesn't sound like mancs are singing united songs, or scousers are singing liverpool songs. It's just a generic accent doing the same chants.

Everything is always a bit too 'perfect'. The graphics could actually be a lot better, in terms of realism. There aren't enough mistakes in the game.

Goalkeepers...
Why are there more than 1 goalkeeper in a squad? Given that they can't either get injured, or sent off it seems pointless.

Player individuality. It seems as though there is only one player in a game - with different faces mapped on. There are no recogniseable 'Beckham runs' , or 'Ronaldo dribbles' - every player acts and moves and plays in the same way.

are ALL the players in fifa 2005 the same height??? it sure looks like it to me, and they all have massive feet, probably why it looks like they cant kick the ball properly, every time you pass, shoot , cross, take penalty's etc etc. Or maybe having large feet helps the players get around the massive pitches

:funny: Perhaps EA could do with more of --> :lui: in Fifa06 ...

Hmm....I only have a small suggestion for the future FIFA versions.

For set-piece takers, ie left+right corner + freekick + captain, I would like to see a list of priority instead of just picking a specific player for each task. I like to rotate my team from game to game, and it's somewhat annoying that I need to re-select the set-piece takers for each game. Cause the one that AI chooses is usually not the one I want.

Say, I always like the freekicks taken by Alonso. If he's not on the side, then Riise, and then Gerrard, and then Hamann, and so and so forth.

And same with the captaincy. Whenever Gerrard is not on the side, AI tries to put the 1st striker as the captain instead of Hyypia.

For set-piece takers, ie left+right corner + freekick + captain, I would like to see a list of priority instead of just picking a specific player for each task. I like to rotate my team from game to game, and it's somewhat annoying that I need to re-select the set-piece takers for each game. Cause the one that AI chooses is usually not the one I want.

i totally agree with you. but i think maybe penalty kick too....hope EA will fix this in fifa 2006...... (Y)

Yes, definitely with PK as well!

The computer has always been able to perform some highly improbable feat to score goals against you on a consistent basis.
When i mean highly improbable, i mean something that is rather hard for a user to pull off, but the AI seems to think it a pice of cake....any thoughts?

Well, one example is I REALLY hate computer make a lob pass from around the center circle to the front man in the box, and the striker put the ball in goal after just 1 touch, or even worse by volley.

I mean, the striker stands so far that he's out of the screen when the pass is made by the midfielder. No way that I can mark the striker. Nothing I can do except to rush the goalie out by maybe a step before the striker makes the shot.

Another example would be just some silly header duels that won by the computer. Say my 6'4" 200 Lb defender standing side by side to a 5'6" low strength striker trying to head off the ball. And my defender actually being out-jumped and more often than not lost balance and fell?! Again just hate to see things like that happen every match.

All i can say is, the game play is too scripted !!!!

All i can say is, the game play is too scripted !!!!

Couldn't agree more.

I don't care about player's boots, how does ball looks, about lenght of the sleeves and stuff like that.. I want to feel the excitment of game that "feels" just like real football.. I want to see that ball is "free" and realistic.. FIFA is going in wrong direction.

The last "unscripted" version of FIFA I can remember is FIFA96.

I can actually move the player or shoot at the goal with the way I wanted. Arrrhhh..., still miss that simple yet creative game!!

The last FIFA socccer version I bought was 2003 and I won't buy another until several things are improved:-

1) I think the bias in favour of the machine on the 2003 version is ridiculous particularly when defending at the 'professional' level. Nothing seems able to defend against the machine launching a through ball and as I have little control over where all the defenders are at any one time , its down to software rather than human skill whether a goal is scored for the machine or not. Its most frustrating when one works hard at the other end to score goals to see the inability of the human agent to control enough defenders at the other.

2) It might sound trite but why spoil the game for serious lovers of football with stupid and ill considered team names. The Premier League has a team called 'London' which doesnt exist. Surely enough effort could have been put in to make sure all the clubs had valid names.

3) There is not enough help. For example I have no idea on my PC version how to spin a free kick or to move the disk inside the ball to achieve that. None of my controls seem to affect it.

4) I hope future versions drop this idea of including European competitions within the league season. For those of us who play 5 or 6 leagues at once it is ridiculous to have 5 or 6 simultaneous European competitions and it makes a nonsense of it. Far better, as my old 1999 version did, if the game allows you to create your own European leagues and cups from the winners of your own leagues, in fact leave a little manual control to us players.

Hi . for me fifas always just bin a little to repetitive in the gameplay and ive found myself scoring the same sort of goals over and over again. PES6however somehow never lets this happen? One to thibnk about mayb