I think don't make sense continue posting in superliga 2004 thread that already ended so i opened this. Post here all things about the portuguese national team,

Tomorrow Scolari will reveal the final list of the players for the Euro2004 at 15h GMT.

Might as well post what I posted in the other threads then.



Most likely Portugal lineup (unfortunately):


--------------------------------Ricardo------------------------------


--P.Ferreira----------F.Couto----------J.Andrade---------N.Valente---


---------------------Petit----------Costinha----------------------------


Figo-----------------------Rui Costa----------------------------Simao


-----------------------------Pauleta---------------------------------------

Subs:
C. Ronaldo
Tiago
Deco
R.Carvalho
Miguel
Nuno Gomes
Quim



My bet for the callup tomorrow:

GK: Ricardo, Quim, Baía

Defenders: Rui Jorge, Nuno Valente, Miguel, Paulo Ferreira, Fernando Couto, Jorge Andrade, Ricardo Carvalho, Fernando Meira

Midfielders: Figo, Rui Costa, Deco, Tiago, Petit, Costinha, Boa Morte, Cristiano Ronaldo, Simao

Forwards: Pauleta, Nuno Gomes, Helder Postiga


Frechaut over Meira or Maniche might be surprises as well as Ricardo Rocha (not likely tho)

i changed the thread subject to fit all portuguese football topics. Please some mod change the topic name. tks. :)

nah, just leave it NT! It's what it's all about at the moment :D

Rui Jorge is cleared to play if Scolari picks him.

here's some things I've been working on for the portuguese community! IMO, we should all replace our club sigs for Portugal ones, I'll do that soon, I'm finishing a great one with Pauleta and Ricardo :D

Here ya go the Flag Smilie (FIXED):

I seriously think Scolari should have called up Moreira from Standard Liege to try in the NT.

PS: Funky-Nice work on the smilie, but it needs smoother animation rate I'll see if I can do something about that later. ;)

here's a little dude! (ALSO FIXED)

If you have any ideas tell me and I'll see what I can come out with :)

I think Cristiano should be used in Euro and start most games. He'd do very well. I doubt he will but I don't see why he shouldnt. He's had a great season and I think would be able to compete NOW at International level. Im only English and see him every week in the Premiership. But I know talent when I see it.

I donno what the Portugese think?

I like him a lot, but, as you should know, the starters are Simao and Figo which are really hard to take the place from... Ronaldo is great for counter-attack, and so, a great option, along with Boa Morte, for those kind of plays... I guess it's all up to Scolari

hey everybody

nice idea the new thread one!! imo, portugal will do a great EURO because there's no reason why we shouldn't..and i was already thinkin about a new sig, it's just the question of having some time..(and some photoshop :p )

cheers

Great job funky man!

The U21's started today the "estágio" in Covilhã. We will play a friendly against Ghana next saturday.

Cristiano should be started simply for the threat he possesses to other defenders....sure he loses the ball some of the times and has some off crosses, but on the whole, his good qualities outweigh his bad ones.


the flair, the speed with which he uses to scare and exploit opposing defence, the reputation that he carries of being an unrestrained young punk who shows off others.....that plays into the minds of opposing defenders, man. Trust me, they'll be cowaring and making silly mistakes all because of him.....great asset to have, man

this is who i would call:

GK.
Baia
Moreira
Quim

DEFENDERS
P.Ferreira
Miguel
R.Carvalho
J.Andrade
F.Couto
F.Meira
N.Valente
R.Jorge

MIDFIELDERS
Costinha
Petit
Maniche
Tiago
Deco
Rui Costa
Figo
Ronaldo
Simao

STRIKERS
Pauleta
Postiga
Nuno Gomes

would you start Cristiano, though? Or do you not have the confidence in him being so young and all to get the job done at his position?

Ronaldo will be good for the 2nd half when the opposing defenders are starting to get tired.

Dunno if I wouldn't start him, I think he's too young to be starting and playing 90m every game of an Euro Championship. This is a tournament with a zero f*ckup margin and if he loses the ball in a dangerous position it can be our doom.

i don't think i would start him... i would play him on the 2nd half of the first match, and according to his exibition and confidence i would consider making him starter in the following match...

Funky--K, can i use that smiley?

I'd start him no problems. Im so confident he'll do well, he's a great asset to have and as a manager i'd be happy he'll do the job.

Cristiano all the way

Hopefully

Well, i really like Cristiano Ronaldo but i think we need experienced players in this kind of tournaments. Simão ( i hope he can perform in our Nt as well as he plays in Benfica) and Figo are our best options. But Cristiano should be our secret weapon. The first one to be brought into the pitch if things start to go bad.
In my opinion, i would also like to see Deco as a starter instead of Rui Costa. Rui Costa is a great player, there is no doubt about that, but he didnt have a great season and i can´t remember last time he produced a good game for our Nt. On the other hand, Deco seems to be reaching his peak of form. His lasts games were extremely good and i would like to see him prolong his recent form in our Nt.
On another note, i wish that in Euro2004, everyones steps up and tries to take responsability and help Figo. With a "selecção", full of great and skilled players, we shouldnt be so dependent of a single player.
Im also confident that Pauleta will be in top form and that he will have a fantastic euro.

My starting eleven:

----------------- Ricardo --------------------

Paulo Ferreira ---- Ricardo Carvalho ---- J. Andrade ---- Rui Jorge

------ Costinha ---- Petit ----------

Figo -------------- Deco --------- Simão

-------- Pauleta --------

A Federação Portuguesa de Futebol renovou hoje, por mais quatro anos, o contrato com a Nike. É o culminar de ano e meio de negociações.

Assim, a multinacional vai continuar a fornecer, até ao final do Europeu de 2008, os equipamentos das equipas portuguesas, desconhecendo-se os valores envolvidos nas negociações.

Segundo o presidente da FPF, Gilberto Madaíl, nem sempre o organismo e a empresa estiveram de acordo com os termos de contrato, "mas depois de ano e meio de negociações a parceria foi renovada por mais um ciclo" que começou em 1996.

"A selecção portuguesa A é uma das equipas de referência na Europa para a Nike, que concebeu, em exclusivo, o equipamento que vai ser utilizado pelos jogadores durante o Euro' 2004", afirmou Gilberto Madaíl.
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:( Dunno what to say, I kinda like their uniforms but everyone hates them... but I'm happy with renewing the contract, especially since if it wasn't for Nike we wouldn't have gotten Scolari to blame for everything.

Edit-
Rogério Matias, defesa do V. Guimarães, recebeu uma proposta para representar o Sparta de Praga, noticia hoje a imprensa desportiva checa, citando o treinador da equipa, Frantisek Straka.

"É um excelente defesa lateral esquerdo, capaz de defender e atacar", indicou Straka ao jornal "Sport", acrescentando que o internacional português, de 29 anos, "deseja jogar na Liga dos Campeões".

O Sparta de Praga, que terminou o campeonato da República Checa em segundo lugar, vai disputar a segunda pré-eliminatória da Liga dos Campeões.
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I think this may be the first case of a player from Portugal going to a lower league, no offense to the Czech league at all, but there's more opportunities to join one of the bigger leagues through Portugal.

Rogerio is a good player, surprised Sporting isn't interested.

Sory for the double posting! i had this on the other thread!

Originally posted by Virgo
GK: Ricardo, Quim, Bruno Vale :mrpimp:

Defenders: Rui Jorge, Nuno Valente, Miguel, Paulo Ferreira, Fernando Couto, Jorge Andrade, Ricardo Carvalho, Fernando Meira

Midfielders: Figo, Rui Costa, Deco, Tiago, Petit, Costinha, Boa Morte, Cristiano Ronaldo, Simao

Forwards: Pauleta, Nuno Gomes, Helder Postiga


Agreed! I

'm just waiting for the Goalkeeper tabu! Hilario? Suprise surprise Baia?

And i see that brawler Beto has a threat! Cant stand him! Meira beats him!


I also think Andrade is much better tah Rocha! With a great advance ahead from him! Carvalho and Andrade r a world class central defenders double!

I cant imagine Maniche out! :kader: too bad!

Two more smileys!

http://www.bulls2.com/smileys/portugal.gif

I had also already posted my prediction on the other thread, on Saturday.

Originally posted by Nakamura
My predictions are:

Keepers:
Ricardo (Sporting)
Quim (Braga)
Moreira (Benfica)

Defenders:
Fernando Couto (Lazio)
Jorge Andrade (Deportivo)
Ricardo Carvalho (Porto)
Beto (Sporting)
Paulo Ferreira (Porto)
Miguel (Benfica)
Rui Jorge (Sporting)
Nuno Valente (Porto)

Midfielders:
Costinha (Porto)
Petit (Benfica)
Tiago (Benfica)
Deco (Porto)
Rui Costa (Milan)
Figo (Real Madrid)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Man Utd.)
Simão (Benfica)
Boa Morte (Fulham)

Strikers:
Pauleta (PSG)
Nuno Gomes (Benfica)
Hélder Postiga (Tottenham)

My only doubt concerns Fernando Meira and maybe Maniche, that may be called up. Anyway I think this is unlikely, even more in Maniche's case. But let's wait and see...

Anyway, I already made one mistake. Moreira isn't going to be called up. So, I believe Hilário is going to be out 3rd keeper. I honestly don't think Scolari will call Baía. It's not like him to change his mind one moment to another... Still, it can happen, who knows?

damn I forgot Beto... I hate him, but I think he'll get called up :kader:

Gil Vicente signed with Paulo Costa (Bordeaux), Julio Cesar (Amadora) and Jorge Ribeiro (Varzim). Good players.

Carvalhal is the new manager of Belenenses and Jose Couceiro will coach Setubal.

k3nzo can i use those smilies?

Portuguese squad:


Keepers: Ricardo (Sporting), Quim (Braga), Moreira (Benfica)

Defenders: Paulo Ferreira (Porto), Miguel (Benfica), Fernando Couto (Lazio), Jorge Andrade (Deportivo), Ricardo Carvalho (Porto), Beto (Sporting), Rui Jorge (Sporting), Nuno Valente (Porto)

Midfielders/Wingers: Petit (Benfica), Costinha (Porto), Tiago (Benfica), Figo (Real Madrid), Maniche (Porto), Rui Costa (Milan), Deco (Porto), Simão (Benfica), Ronaldo (Man Utd)

Forwards/Strikers: Pauleta (PSG), Nuno Gomes (Benfica), Postiga (Tottenham)

Maniche and Moreira called! Boa Morte was the sacrified.

Moreira was a surprise!
i agree with the callup (maybe Beto could be replaced by F.Meira), and finally Scolari called Maniche, he deserved this call...about Baía it was expected to be left out.

now GO PORTUGAL http://pwp.netcabo.pt/kondor/pt-flagman.gif http://pwp.netcabo.pt/kondor/pt-littledude.gif nice smilies Funky-K LOL

Camacho will be presented next Monday has coach at Real Madrid.

I hope we don't get to see Postiga play in Euro 2004 bcs he's been crap this season but I don't disagree with the sacrifice of Boa Morte as if needed in last case we have two replacement wingers in Ronaldo and Miguel in last case. I'm happy with Maniche, I think he adds another type of depth to the squad.

The only think I don't like is Beto over Meira... even Rocha is better than Beto. I hope he doesn't play also.

Yeaaa Cristianoooo! I got the Portugal socks the other day, MINT! When Cristiano played england though I didnt see two Nike swoosh's lol, o well! Brill

can anyone explain why baia wont/cant be on the NT?

Scolari chose to leave him out since the beggining. Scolari doesn't like to call old players to the team unless they are indispensable I guess.

Originally posted by Virgo
Scolari chose to leave him out since the beggining. Scolari doesn't like to call old players to the team unless they are indispensable I guess.

Yup, just look when Scolari was coach at Brazil, Romario want to be on the NT. There were even protests and Romario made an altimadum crying on national TV:rolleyes:

Possible line up for Portugal-Greece:

---------------------Ricardo----------------------

P.Ferreira--Couto--J.Andrade--Rui Jorge

---------------Petit----Costinha------------------

Figo---------------Rui Costa----------Simão

--------------------Pauleta---------------------

Originally posted by Virgo
Scolari chose to leave him out since the beggining. Scolari doesn't like to call old players to the team unless they are indispensable I guess.

by that line of thought Couto should be left out as well...
probably the reasons to leave Baía out since the beginning are others, only Scolari can tell why, but whatever it is i don't think it can be a valid one.

Couto is the captain, the team had no leadership and especially the defence with him gone. And even Scolari didn't have the balls to drop him from the team. I think it's almost a crime to leave Carvalho in the bench. He'll be dropped after the Euro 2004 for sure.


Maybe Baia said something to a member of the federation or something.... remember that Agostinho Oliveira didn't call him up either.

Anyway I didn't see any porto fans complaining when Ricardo did a brilliant qualifying stage for the WC 2002 and then was replaced for Baia who was just fresh recovered from a severe injury... not that I'm defending Ricardo...

I'm very sad, that Scolari don't call Baía for the Euro! :(
He is a great Keeper!

And Meira? where is Meira? He played a big Season!

And another is Boa Morte!! He played a big Season, too!

Beto played very bad in the last Games... and Tiago, too!

and what I can't understand is that Rui Jorge can play, and don't get blocked for the Euro! Kennedy was blocked, in the World Cup 2002! Madail is a big shame!!!
I hate Rui Jorge...he is arrogant... every time he discuss with the Referees!

But finally Scolari called Maniche! He is a great center!

Now let us see what will happen! I hope that Portugal can make a excellent Euro!
FORCA PORTUGAL!!!

yeah Nuno Valente is so much better........... with his elbows :rolleyes:

great call, i think it's the best at the moment! Great to see maniche back, along with moreira...


FEEL FREE TO USE MY SMILIES!

Originally posted by Virgo
Anyway I didn't see any porto fans complaining when Ricardo did a brilliant qualifying stage for the WC 2002 and then was replaced for Baia who was just fresh recovered from a severe injury...

Maybe that's because you have selected memory (probably just to prove your points).
Every time I talked about Baía on Scolari's era I said something like: 'Ricardo should have been the man 2 years ago, but we're bound to make the same mistake by leaving our best current keeper on the bench/not called up'... :rolleyes:


About the squad, I am okay with it. I don't like Beto and Postiga had an off year. Other than that it's good, as long as Rui Costa isn't the starter. Deco is getting better and better, game after game. He should be our pick.

What about Ricardo Quaresma?

I know hes young but i would of had him in the sqaud for his speed. Same with Shaun Wright Phillips for England. I was hoping to see these two guys in Euro 2004.

Ricardo Quaresma is injured. And even if he was fit would be very dificult to be called. We have better options to his spot.

Quaresma sucks, dude

the teams is how i expected Scolari would chose.

I dont know why Barcelona would buy a player who "sucks".

I saw him live in a friendly, and he was the most explosive guy out there.

Capucho was released by Rangers. :crazyboy:

well, that was probably one in a million match...

the guy has great techinique and is an amazing dribbler but that's all there is to it. he's not a goalscorer, he's not objective and he constantly plays for himself and not for the team. and he has a serious attitude problem: he claims he wont change his style of play... no 22 year old player can become great if he doesn't want to learn... that's what makes him so different from Ronaldo... Ronaldo evolutes...

I don't care for Quaresma's attitude, he's got amazing skill and all the potential in the world but he often forgets that football is a "team" sport.. I don't think he belongs on the squad for at least a couple more years until he changes..

Quaresma is a great player! But he is young and he will learn, and every time he will get better!

but if he was not injured he would play for the younger squad the Under 21!

BUT I LIKE TO SEE BAíA!!! :(

Well, my prediction list only missed one player. I had Boa Morte instead of Maniche. But I'm happy he was called, he deserves and he can be quite useful to the NT (although IMO clearly not in the starting 11). Moreira, thankfully, ended up being called!

So, it's basically what we all were expecting. I agree with Scolari's choices. The only change I would made would be calling up Meira instead of Beto.

We now have the 23 players that will represent our country in Euro 2004. Let's give them all the support and hope they succeed, in what them and all of us want.

I agree with Scolari call up... but i think Boa Morte deserves a place in this squad.. instead of who.. i don't know :confused:


Maybe Meira deserves a place in this squad too, instead of Beto...

And Moreira was a great choice by Scolari (H) !!!

Go Portugal!!!!

I agree with most of the list..except Beto(Rocha and Meira are way better) Quim(he didnt have a good season, i just dont understand) and maybe Tiago and Postiga who've played shiatty..and Boa Morte screwed up everytime he played for the NT, I feel sorry for him cos he's attitude and he's made a fanatstic season...oh, and i was hoping Miguelito could be called up, cos Va"lento" and Rui Jorge are a disgrace..


Go Portugal!=)


------------------------------Moreira----------------------------------
P.Ferreira-------R.Carvalho----J.Andrade-------Miguel(IMO it would be better than those left-footed mancos)

---------------------Costinha-----Petit-------------------------------
--------------------------------Deco(i love rui costa's playing style but Deco is in better shape and he fecking sweats for his team)

---Figo-----------------------------------------------Ronaldo---
----------------------------Pauleta(hopefully the new portuguese hero)

Moreira
P. Ferreira
R. Carvalho
F. Couto
R. Jorge
Costinha
Petit
Rui Costa
Figo
Simao
Pauleta

now come and beat this (H)

Pauleta has always been a Portugal hero, Goo Goo. :D

I think so too, but ive heard so many people saying Nuno Gomes is better.....to be a national hero everybody has to like him, without clubites=)

Originally posted by Goo Goo boy
I think so too, but ive heard so many people saying Nuno Gomes is better.....to be a national hero everybody has to like him, without clubites=)
They must be tracing it back to Euro, because since Euro the only game for the NT he's had that has been noteworthy was against Sweden.

and kuwait(?) where he scored four

Damn it! I knew Beto would screw us!!! Meira is much better!! Beto is a limited player, he has no position conscience in miedfield! Meira is more complete and able!


I also think that Postiga in and Boa Morte out is totally unfair! Boa Morte was called to almost every game and he had a great season! Besides he's style is much more needed in the squad! Postiga should be in the U21!


Though how much Rui Costa gave to the NT, how much we respect him, i think it's time to give Deco a chance! You could have the excuse that he was also having a bad (not so good/spectacular IMO) year, but last games r blasting! The kid is rockin! :rockman:



Originally posted by bbranco10
k3nzo can i use those smilies?

Yep! That's why i posted it! feel free!



Originally posted by Virgo
Anyway I didn't see any porto fans complaining when Ricardo did a brilliant qualifying stage for the WC 2002 and then was replaced for Baia who was just fresh recovered from a severe injury... not that I'm defending Ricardo...

If u have the time go back there! U'll surely find some good posts, specially from Infesta!

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
and kuwait(?) where he scored four

Yup, but only 3 goalsn 5minutes of play.

I just hope the players don't embaress Portugal's image again like in EURO2000, and WC2002. Likely candidates this time :rolleyes: Maniche, Valent, Petite, and Deco since theses guys don't take crap.

Bruno Aguiar will sign a new contract with Benfica and will be included in the team next year. (H)

Argel renewed too and Carlitos will sign for us after the U21 Euro 2004.

"Batalha do Jamor cifra-se em 92 pessoas feridas!!!

Os números são assustadores e sem precedentes em Portugal, pelo menos no que a minha memória consegue alcançar. Desafio alguém a mostrar-me um encontro de futebol que tenha ficado marcado por semelhante hecatombe de ferimentos, confrontos e hospitalizações!!! Mesmo que algumas tenham sido por doença devido ao calor e quedas, isso só vem comprovar a inadequação do Jamor para jogos desta envergadura...
O balanço da Batalha do Jamor dá conta de 23 feridos que tiveram de receber assistência hospitalar, para além de 67 pessoas assistidas no local sem necessidade de serem deslocadas. No total, considerando as adeptas do FC Porto vítimas de pedradas no seu autocarro, são 92 pessoas assistidas e consideradas feridas, o que no mínimo deveria obrigar as autoridades a um rigoroso inquérito sobre todo o sucedido no passado domingo e, sobretudo, em relação aos tais "erros de comando" que levaram a misturas de adeptos para as quais a polícia não estava minimamene preparada. Isto a poucas semanas do arranque do tão propalado Euro'2004...
Pelo menos quatro agentes da PSP foram agredidos nos confrontos registados no complexo do Jamor. Vinte e três adeptos ficaram também feridos (sete em agressões, 10 de doença e seis em quedas) e tiveram de ir ao hospital, contra os tais 67 assistidos sem maior gravidade. Um polícia, do Corpo de Intervenção, ainda permanecia internado após ter sido atingido com uma pedra na cabeça. Uma agente da PSP de Oeiras foi também agredida e vai ficar de baixa.
Nestas contas já nem entram o adepto portista baleado em Montalegre, e entretanto falecido, por ser uma questão que pouco tem a ver com futebol. Nem sequer os três feridos resultantes de desacatos na Agualva, na região de Sintra. Foi, sem dúvida, um dia negro..." in Megafone

If it was whit us... "they are energumenos!", "they deserve to be punished...", "... close the stadium...", and others. This is so funny... :rolleyes:

the cops are ready :p

White-Fighter... nex time post it in the Portuguese Superliga thread... ;)

The team i think it should be...

-------------------------Moreira-------------------------

--P.Ferreira--R.Carvalho--J.Andrade--Rui Jorge--

------------------------Costinha------------------------

-----------------Maniche--------------------------------

----Figo--------------Rui Costa------------Simão----

-----------------------Pauleta--------------------------

Can't believe Postiga has got ahead of Boa! Didnt Spurs loan him back out. If so, I havent seen how he's done, but Boa has been electric for Fulham, both out wide and up front. His pace is unbelivable!

:kader: :kader:

Yeah.. have to agree with you on that...

A shame :rolleyes:

yep, Boa Morte out and Postiga in is the only big wrong choice of Scolari IMO... the other wrong choice was Beto... Meira or Litos would sound better, although Meira has more NT experience

Scolari prefered to give up of a winger and call other centre midfielder and three strikers because we have miguel that could play as a defender and winger. but i don't agree with his option. Boa Morte deserved the call.:(

Originally posted by Funky--K
although Meira has more NT experience

i don't think that meira has more NT experience than Beto. actually i think the opposite. But I prefered Meira or Ricardo Rocha for Beto's spot. For experience we have Couto.

i was actually mentioning Meira had more NT experience than litos;)

Originally posted by Funky--K
i was actually mentioning Meira had more NT experience than litos;)

my mistake :p

Portugal was defeated today 2-1 against Slovakia, for the qualifying poule of the U19 Euro Cup that is being played in Slovakia. In the other game Germany trashed Armenia 5-0. Only the first of the group will qualify.

Next opponent will be the germans.

The NT are already concentrated in Lisbon, except for Porto players, Ronaldo and Pauleta. (H)

And Jorge Andrade and Figo who aren't here because La Liga isn't over yet

have you noticed that only us and the dutch have changed the sigs to the NT's for Euro :P

I'll change it after May 26!

lol, got it :rockman:

u wanna know who has mad skill, totti man he has a great shot but its to bad that Roma might lose him...... hey do ne of u guys know how to open up threads that have been made.:crazyboy:

Portugal lost again in the U19 Euro Cup qualifying poule at Slovakia. This time with Germany 1-0. so we are out. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by K3nzo
I'll change it after May 26!

Me too... :p ;)

About the calling i think with the exception of Baía and Beto it was not bad at all, now i want to see Portugal playing good football, in the Euro we can't make some stupid mistakes like in the past games! :rolleyes:

if portugal u21 gets on the top 3 of the euro then moreira will have the chance of being in yet another big competition: - OLYMPIC GAMES :crazyboy:

Is it top3 or top4?

today on the commentaries they were saying top 3

yes top 3 plus greece

NT already made the first training sessions at Obidos yesterday with 3000 in the stands

looks like the players are really getting along with Filipao... but Porto players aren't there yet:p

I hope Porto players don't be with the star attitude when they join if they do win the Champions League.

i just hope that portugal does a nice EURO, wich by the way we're playin now,..passing the groups fase..

Confidence, we need confidence!!


We r gonna kick their asses and win it!!!! :rockman:

http://funkyk.do.sapo.pt/sigsavatars/pt-flagman.gif !EURO2004 IS OURS! http://funkyk.do.sapo.pt/sigsavatars/pt-flagman.gif

Originally posted by Virgo
I hope Porto players don't be with the star attitude when they join if they do win the Champions League.

you guys make it seem that Porto players shouldn't be there and that they are a virus. FFS

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
you guys make it seem that Porto players shouldn't be there and that they are a virus. FFS

ah c'mon, let's not get paranoid here (:/)

Ricardo got an injury in today's training session at Obidos. The NT doctor said that it's a light injury.

Originally posted by Punkt
Ricardo got an injury in today's training session at Obidos. The NT doctor said that it's a light injury.

damn only light :p

virgo, fn' :f***: what!? thank god it was a light one, he's the best we got!

is it? :confused:

if he's the best we got we'll be in deep sh*t... oh wait we already are.

That blunder against Sweden was probably the biggest I ever seen. It beats Baía's occasional blunders by miles.

Let's speak honestly: Ricardo, IMO (and in the majority of the Portuguese people), was by miles our best keeper from 2001 to 2003. I considered him one of the best in the world! I have a special interests in GK, because I frequently play in that position and I'm an admiror of them, so I always pay a lot of attention to them, evaluating them, seeing them in action. He truly has great qualities! He was always consistent and really great during that time. With him on that form, Baía (that used to be my favourite keeper, and to me the best in the world from 1993 to 1996) didn't have a chance.

But the truth is that since Ricardo went to Sporting, especially in the second half of the season, he doesn't seem like the same player. Somehting very wrong has happened to him mentally, because obviously nobody loses their qualities from one day to another. It's a psychological problem, probably due to the pressure and polemic surrounding Baía being called or not and also Sporting's bad season. So, I think he isn't our best keeper now... He's not reliable... Quim and Moreira are better options. But maybe he can recover his confidence... If he does so, then he's the best, clearly.

All I know is that it's not good having those doubts and concerns over our NT keeper. He must be there for the team to rely on, not to have them constantly worrying about him and possible mistakes.

i got a bad feeling it will be Ricardo who costs us the Euro. His blunder against Sweden was :kader:

All goalies, no matter how good you are, allow **** goals

Ricardo is still out of the team, and Rui JOrge joined in today, he had a light ankle twist!

Originally posted by K3nzo
Ricardo is still out of the team, and Rui JOrge joined in today, he had a light ankle twist!

Sporting players are broken. :funny:

Ricardo's blunder against sweden, curiously, was the 4th goal that Kallstrom scored like that, so it must be a curse goalies have when he takes low free kicks

It's simple, he just needs some confidence... and I'm sure that if we loose Euro it won't be because of him...

Sorry but i've to say this after watcginh that exhibition yesterday:


?!?!?WHERE THE HELL IS BAIA!?!?!

!!!CRY SCOLARI CRY!!!







I had to say it! Now peace to the NT, Ricardo will be there and Baia wont, win that cup too!!

Hope Ricardo will do well when it comes to the real thing :confused:

Originally posted by K3nzo
Sorry but i've to say this after watcginh that exhibition yesterday:


?!?!?WHERE THE HELL IS BAIA!?!?!

!!!CRY SCOLARI CRY!!!







I had to say it! Now peace to the NT, Ricardo will be there and Baia wont, win that cup too!!


what did baia do yesterday? only that rush on giuly, cause after that monaco didn't even made a shot on target.

Originally posted by Funky--K


It's simple, he just needs some confidence... and I'm sure that if we loose Euro it won't be because of him...


Everybody played bad in th WC and everybody blamed Baia. So if everybody plays bad this year, then i'm blaming Ricardo. ONLY FAIR


Baia is tied with Pele as the player with more titles won. What a legend. So what you want Baia is the best Portuguese Goalie of all time

Baía made an excellent exhibition yesterday, i know some of u are blind but everyday it's more clear that someone don't want him in the NT, i heard some rumours that it was because he was defending António Oliveira in court in the case that oppose him to the FPF, i don't know if it's true but some strange things are happening in our Football Federation... :rolleyes:

BTW, just a joke that i heard :p : "O seleccionador Luis Felipe Scolari convocou 10 milhões de portugueses para torcerem pela selecção portuguesa e poderem ser campeões europeus, enquanto Vítor Baía não tendo sido convocado já se pode gabar de ser Campeão Europeu! :funny:

Baia played great yesterday, but IMO, he only got the blame at the WC because he didn't play well, he shouldn't have been selected after an injury.

Originally posted by Aveirenses
Baia played great yesterday, but IMO, he only got the blame at the WC because he didn't play well, he shouldn't have been selected after an injury.

He got the blame at the WC unfairly, i think he wasn't bad, the problem was in the bad shape of some of our defenders and specially the attacking players like Figo, João Pinto... :rolleyes: I still remember that if it wasn't Baía we could have suffered like 3 or 4 goals at the end of the game against S.Korea so i think the problem was not Baía, definetly.

Originally posted by [dfm]
He got the blame at the WC unfairly, i think he wasn't bad, the problem was in the bad shape of some of our defenders and specially the attacking players like Figo, João Pinto... :rolleyes: I still remember that if it wasn't Baía we could have suffered like 3 or 4 goals at the end of the game against S.Korea so i think the problem was not Baía, definetly.
We didn't lose the WC against Korea, we lost it against the USA...

Well, against USA we sucked but we still had hopes!

Against Korea, and since Poland gave us that break of beating USA, we only needed a draw, the door was opened for us! But Figo bad shape (and i worship Figo, i luv him, dont judge me wrong), JVPinto boxing act, Nuno Gomes last minutes blunders, and total lack of pace gave it all away! Baia did some pretty good saves that could have cost us a more sever defeat!

He shouldnt have been the nº 1 in WC, Ricardo should, but it wasnt Baia fault only!! :kader:

Hi there, i'm new to this forum

Regarding Baia, whats done is done, lets just hope for a good euro from Portugal

Originally posted by aritos
Hi there, i'm new to this forum

Regarding Baia, whats done is done, lets just hope for a good euro from Portugal

Welcome mate, it's always good to see new people arriving, specially portuguese. :) (H)

Aritos welcome. More one portuguese to join us. :ewan:

welcome Aritos! a new member in the SG Portuguese army :jap:

the NT won today 9-3 against a AF Leiria combinate team. Nuno Gomes scored 4 goals, Ronaldo 2, and Figo, Postiga and Simão 1. Ronaldo played for the AF Leiria team some minutes and scored 2 goals for them. :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Punkt
the NT won today 9-3 against a AF Leiria combinate team. Nuno Gomes scored 4 goals, Ronaldo 2, and Figo, Postiga and Simão 1. Ronaldo played for the AF Leiria team some minutes and scored 2 goals for them. :crazyboy:
Just like a training routine thing or was it like an actual friendly or something?

Any chance of videos of the goals?(H)

Ronaldo's form is getting really good, I think he might even be a starter at Euro if he keeps it up! (Y)

Originally posted by Aveirenses
Just like a training routine thing or was it like an actual friendly or something?

Any chance of videos of the goals?(H)

Only a training match. The NT even play with the training kits. The opponents were all very young and fascinated for play against Figo and Co. :p

probably they will show them tomorrow in the news.

Nothing special, it was a normal training against a very weak opponent! Nothing to show!!

Today FCP players will join!


Welcome again aritos! Can u tell more about u? how did u come here?

Welcome Aritos.

Are you benfiquista,portista or sportinguista?

I saw some of the training footage(with Portugal training by itself), and Quim made some *******-great saves. And I love his attitude as well, he just wants to keep getting better and better, deserved to be at the WC, and deserves to be at Euro. (H)

About Aritos, i may br wrong but his siggy gives a FCPorto tip!

I hope he joins the good ones! :rockman:



Oooppss!! I almost forgot! Euro2004 is coming and we r all good and proud Portugueses!! :rockman:


:mrpimp:

Originally posted by K3nzo
About Aritos, i may br wrong but his siggy gives a FCPorto tip!

I hope he joins the good ones! :rockman:



Oooppss!! I almost forgot! Euro2004 is coming and we r all good and proud Portugueses!! :rockman:


:mrpimp:

You're a right, porto fan here, but right now getting ready for the euro.

What do u mean "I hope he joins the good ones! :rockman:"

Originally posted by K3nzo
Nothing special, it was a normal training against a very weak opponent! Nothing to show!!

Today FCP players will join!


Welcome again aritos! Can u tell more about u? how did u come here?

Hadn't seen this one before. I've been an fcp fan all my life, as for the site, i actually found it a bit by accident. I heard the name soccergaming somewhere and thinking it was some kind of football magazine i just typed www.soccergaming.com, and here i am.

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
Everybody played bad in th WC and everybody blamed Baia. So if everybody plays bad this year, then i'm blaming Ricardo. ONLY FAIR


Baia is tied with Pele as the player with more titles won. What a legend. So what you want Baia is the best Portuguese Goalie of all time

sorry to say it man, but be claiming already your going to blame Ricardo if we loose it's just retarded! I don't think Baia got the blame for the WC loss, I think Joao Pinto, Figo, Rui Costa and specially Oliveira did! But even if he did get some blame, I'm sure it wasn't as unfair as he being picked for that tournament instead of Ricardo! Ricardo was in his top form, by miles better than Baia, which had come from an injury and played not even half of the season (yes, u remember Ovchinikov, nº 55....)

Baia IS the best portuguese goalie of all time, no doubt!! But that doesn't mean he deserves all the shots! Ricardo never had a decent shot to prove himself for the NT in an oficial competition, so now it's way more fair to be him the nº1 for Portugal! Baia already had some pretty unfair ones, specially in the World Cup, so I think it's time we start supporting Ricardo, and trust him as our goalie! Bad seasons don't mean bad players, because in that point of view, Deco isn't better than Ricardo Sousa... (which I know that isn't true, just making a point)

Originally posted by Funky--K
sorry to say it man, but be claiming already your going to blame Ricardo if we loose it's just retarded! I don't think Baia got the blame for the WC loss, I think Joao Pinto, Figo, Rui Costa and specially Oliveira did!

RUI COSTA??? Rui Costa blamed for the WC campaign? He only played against Poland in the last 30 minutes and he scored 1 goal and made 1 assist... One of the major errors of Oliveira was put Rui Costa on the bench and now you want to blame him... very unfair... :kader:

Originally posted by Punkt
RUI COSTA??? Rui Costa blamed for the WC campaign? He only played against Poland in the last 30 minutes and he scored 1 goal and made 1 assist... One of the major errors of Oliveira was put Rui Costa on the bench and now you want to blame him... very unfair... :kader:

Yeah that's ridiculous to include Rui Costa in the blame :kader:

Originally posted by ::shinji::
Yeah that's ridiculous to include Rui Costa in the blame :kader:

Agreed. João Pinto, Beto, Rui Jorge and Figo were the worst IMO.

yeah, Figo was our most useless player at the WC, he clearly was in no shape or form to be playing..

Originally posted by ::shinji::
yeah, Figo was our most useless player at the WC, he clearly was in no shape or form to be playing..

Exactly, Capucho should have played instead of him and Rui Costa instead of João Pinto, not to mention the stupidity of Beto playing as a RB... :kader:

Originally posted by aritos
What do u mean "I hope he joins the good ones! :rockman:"


I mean... i hope u join these guys

http://www.fcporto.ws/jogos-2003/cl-f134.jpg

These r the good ones!! lololol

Originally posted by K3nzo
I mean... i hope u join these guys

http://www.fcporto.ws/jogos-2003/cl-f134.jpg

These r the good ones!! lololol

Oh yeah, we're the best! :hump: (H)

Well it´s pretty easy to claim now that Figo shouldn´t have been a starter in the wc2002 but in that time if Oliveira had thought of putting him in the bench, i bet the media and the fans would tear him appart. The racional part also explains why he put João Pinto as "titular" because in that year Sporting was champion and Jvp played extremely well and was in a superb form. But i guess he loses his reason of playing the players in better form when he replaced Ricardo who was, in that time, without any doubt our number 1 keeper for Baia who had a rough year with injuries. Now i have no doubts that Baia with his experience would serve our interests in a better way.
The wc2002 should be a closed matter. There was no individual fault. It was the team´s fault and Oliveira´s fault. That dispicable game against Usa where the players were overconfident and the South Korea match where Jvp screwed up and we played like an amateur team that couldn´t handle the pressure were the key points for our disapointing campaign.
Bringing up the "fantasma" of the wc is pointless and counter produtive unless we wanna learn from our mistakes and try to prevent them this time.
In my humble opinion it´s time to stop arguing about Scolari´s decisions and start supporting the players who will be there and who will give everything for our country.

Originally posted by Vinnie Jones
Well it´s pretty easy to claim now that Figo shouldn´t have been a starter in the wc2002 but in that time if Oliveira had thought of putting him in the bench, i bet the media and the fans would tear him appart. The racional part also explains why he put João Pinto as "titular" because in that year Sporting was champion and Jvp played extremely well and was in a superb form. But i guess he loses his reason of playing the players in better form when he replaced Ricardo who was, in that time, without any doubt our number 1 keeper for Baia who had a rough year with injuries. Now i have no doubts that Baia with his experience would serve our interests in a better way.
The wc2002 should be a closed matter. There was no individual fault. It was the team´s fault and Oliveira´s fault. That dispicable game against Usa where the players were overconfident and the South Korea match where Jvp screwed up and we played like an amateur team that couldn´t handle the pressure were the key points for our disapointing campaign.
Bringing up the "fantasma" of the wc is pointless and counter produtive unless we wanna learn from our mistakes and try to prevent them this time.
In my humble opinion it´s time to stop arguing about Scolari´s decisions and start supporting the players who will be there and who will give everything for our country.

Ok u made your point but i still think it's not bad to give our honest opinions if they're in a positive way, when i say i don't like Scolari decisions it doesn't mean i don't like my country and to see him :hump: other teams! :p

ok, I said Rui Costa because I thought he also played s*** like Figo, I think I had the wrong idea.... and ... Beto as RB was hilarious

did you guys see Madail's interview last night?

THE GUY WAS COMPLETELY DRUNK :rofl:

Originally posted by Virgo
did you guys see Madail's interview last night?

THE GUY WAS COMPLETELY DRUNK :rofl:

I saw that too, he really seemed drunk!!! :D :rofl:

Anyone think we should make a thread for the portugal friendly in a little?or just keep it in here? I thought i should come here first .

I don't think we need a new thread... after all is against Luxembourg...

are u kiddin', we'd get flamed for making a new thread for a friendly with Luxembourg, lol

haha i was just wondering.:D

Is the game going to be on English Tv? I don't think Sky Sports are showing it eh?

If you have satelite you could watch it on RTP Internacional

Ah right, I don't unfortunately, just basic cable with Sky Sports 1,2 and 3 and British Eurosport :( But I know Eurosport are definately showing the games, whether it's live or not I don't know but I think Holland V Belgium is so... That's fine! I just love watching Portugal!

It starts in an hour , thats good to see that you like to watch portugal play.:)

Yea man I love watching them play, not just because of Cristiano, because of Figo, Rui, Pauleta, Nuno, Simao etc. Where's the game being played? Portugal were training in Obidos right? Is that a hot part of Portugal? What's it like?

too bad Pauleta will miss the first (semi)test

hope we wins the french cup and scores a bunch in the final, so he can come to portugal all fired up!

Obidos is in the center of Portugal and is one of the most beautiful villages of the country. in this part of the year all Portugal is very hot :p
Portugal will now move their head-quarters to the Sporting academy in Alcochete. Obidos will be the Swiss HQ during the euro.

Half-time 3-0 against Luxembourg. A one side match.

Well its 3-0 Portugal

The starting lineup was:
Quim,Miguel,Rui Jorge,Jorge Andrade,Fernando Couto,Petit,Tiago,Simao,Figo,Rui Costa and Nuno Gomes.

The scorers have been Figo off a free kick, Nuno Gomes but i didnt get to see the goal i was in the other room and Rui costa with a long range powerful low shot.

There will be plenty of substitutions and Portugal are dominating easily. I kind of feel bad for the other team.

3-0 at halftime...

Figo/Nuno Gomes/Rui Costa

Carvalho(?)/Ronaldo/Postiga On
Andrade/Figo/Gomes Off

Postiga scored but he was slightly offside.

Now Costinha,Deco,Paulo Ferreira,Maniche come on

Full time: 3-0

boring second half.

Yea Luxembourg played dfensively most of the game.

Originally posted by Punkt
Obidos is in the center of Portugal and is one of the most beautiful villages of the country. in this part of the year all Portugal is very hot :p
Portugal will now move their head-quarters to the Sporting academy in Alcochete. Obidos will be the Swiss HQ during the euro.

Half-time 3-0 against Luxembourg. A one side match.

Ah thanks very much!

I couldnt see the game because Eurosport were showing crappy FRENCH football! Who cares! I'd of liked to see Portugal or Holland or somethin.

I take it they played okay then? Did Simao play well? Did Cristiano come on if so how'd he do? Tnx.

Btw are there any site(s) that you Portugese get the match pics from etc?

nice first half, great to see that both Rui Costa and Figo are taking this seriously... Can't say the same about Ronaldo, the guy was just messing around... Gomes also played well, as well as Simao, Petit and Rui Jorge. Couto and Carvalho look like they were meant to play together, they look perfect, I wish they were the 2 cb's.... Quim had a awesome match, the way he touched the ball those only 2 times really showed some class! Maniche and Deco didn't do much, they kind showed some fatigue... which is obvious... the rest played normally

Pauleta, just like I hoped, scored the winning goal for PSG to win the French cup! Did you see him lifting the cup? So funny!!:crazyboy:

Check this out

In 23 players:

6 from Porto won the Champion's League
6 from SLB won the Portuguese Cup
Figo won the Spanish Supercup
Rui Costa won the Serie A
Couto won the Italian Cup
Pauleta won the French Cup
Ronaldo won the FA Cup

that's 17 players with trophies this year! Only 6 players (Quim, Jorge Andrade, Postiga and the 3 SCP players) didn't win anything this season....

Nice statistics, good for the country as a whole eh. I bet you were really chuffed when Porto won!

Tell me, what was Cristiano doing? How long did he get on? And was he wearing gold red or white mercurials? Yep ima boot freak, thanks!

Nice to hear Simao did well, did he provide lots of crosses etc?

Also, are there any pics from the game? Thanks!

Cristiano Ronaldo was on for the second half and wore the gold vapors. He did alrite, not too much but it was only a friendly. He had a disallowed assist to Postiga because of offsides and SImao to me did very well. Had some good crosses and chances. I cant really find too many pics of the game only small ones.

Ah right okay, it's strange that GettyImages arent showing any games? Well like two but not Holland or Portugal, Hmmz....

Neither are Yahoo! Sport or anything. Thanks for the info though.

It was more like a training match, but with the official kits :crazyboy:
Portugal - Luxembourg it's not a game that get to much media atention... , because of Luxembourg.

About last night's friendly:

-I'm happy that we completed the match w/o any injuries, which is vital at this point in the preparations.

-The goal by Figo was pretty splendid, but then again, we were playing Luxembourg, and if we were playing superior opposition, it would have been more than likely saved.

-We were able to kill two birds with one stone in this match: not only did it help us prepare for Euro 2004, we also play Luxembourg in the World Cup Qualifiers, so we'll know what to expect from them when the matches count.

U21 NT games are all on Pay TV... can't believe this crap. :(

Quim-good
Andrade-Average
Couto-Average
Rui Jorge-Better than the usual
Miguel-Terrible, he disappointed me, he didnt run for the lost balls and his forward runs were disgraceful
Petit-good
Tiago-Good
Rui Costa-Very good
Figo-Very good
Simao-Very very good
Nuno Gomes- Average
Costinha-good
Maniche-Average
P.Ferreira-good(made an awesome cross and was a mile better than miguel..and he was just about 15 mins in the game)
Beto-Better than usual
Carvalho-good
Deco-Good
Ronaldo-good
Postiga-Good(better than Gomes imo)

Quim good? the guy could sit next to the post reading a book about loneliness...:crazyboy:

sub-21 play in 1 hour... i don't care if they play well or not, they just have to take the win, no other chance! I mean, with a midfield such as Meireles+Bosingwa+Carlos Martins+Hugo Viana there's is just no good excuse....

If it was Ricardo in between the posts Luxemborg probably would've gotten the only 2 shots they had as goals. :crazyboy:

:f***: damn you people and your ricardo jokes!

we draw against switzerland 2-2 :rolleyes: after cameback of a 1-0 defeat to a 1-2 lead. The ref sent off Ricardo Costa but he didn't made nothing :kader:

Now we need a victory against Germany and Swizerland could not win against Sweden.

Originally posted by Funky--K
:f***: damn you people and your ricardo jokes!
It's the truth, Ricardo has lost something with his season at Sporting this year, sad... but true... :(

Yes he has lost something! But he didn't loose skills, talent or form... he lost confidence! And the way the media talk about it, and the pro-baia-anit-ricardo campaign and those jokes are sure not going to bring that confidence back....




Why da hell did Ricardo Costa get sent off? The guy just fell holding his face! Didn't get it, really!:f***:

Win over Germany is a must.... cooooooomplicated:kader:

http://programas.rtp.pt/RTPVIDEO/vid_janela2.php?p_id=1&ac=ecra&tipow=&modorv=&clip=/inteiros/Telej29052004.rm&start=0:10:20&end=

Fastfoward to about the 47th minute and it'll have all three goals of the match, plus some post-match interviews. :)

You guys watching the Toulon youth festival match btw Portugal and Brasil? Very entertaining match with two great teams. Were leading 1-0 in the second half but the match can go either way

Whos playing?

Portugal U-21s Beat Germany 2-1 WHOOO! Quarter Finals BABY!

Hugo Almeida and Lourenco both scored. Almeida is sure to be up there with Pauleta by the time he reaches Pauleta's current age, even better maybe, if Almeida keeps working like he has. Great day for the NT. :)

Originally posted by Aveirenses
Portugal U-21s Beat Germany 2-1 WHOOO! Quarter Finals BABY!

Hugo Almeida and Lourenco both scored. Almeida is sure to be up there with Pauleta by the time he reaches Pauleta's current age, even better maybe, if Almeida keeps working like he has. Great day for the NT. :)

Actually, we qualified for the semifinals, because its an 8 nation competition. It also means that should we defeat Italy in the next match, WE QUALIFY FOR THE OLYMPICS.

Originally posted by Avalanche1996
Actually, we qualified for the semifinals, because its an 8 nation competition. It also means that should we defeat Italy in the next match, WE QUALIFY FOR THE OLYMPICS.
Same sh*t! :D

I'm just happy that our U-21 came through. I also hope we beat Italy like we did at Toulon last year...

FT Portugal-1 Brazil-0

We got a nice U-20 side. Great play in our goal where Filipe Oliveira (Chelsea) dribbled 3 Brazil players and crossed for Edson for an easy tap in. Our best players were David (Estrela da Amadora), Paulo Sérgio (Sporting), Sérgio Organista (Fc Porto), Carlos Marques (Sporting), Filipe Oliveira (Chelsea) and Amoreirinha (Ex Alverca now a Benfica player). They all look promising. Brazil´s number 11 Marcelinho owned too, it´s a kind of player that will surely be a top footballer

actually, I think that Portugal played badly in Toulon! Brazil dominated us because there was no midfield! Faria, Organista and Paulo Sergio couldn't take possession of the ball! Filipe Oliveira was by miles our best player, and Edson worked pretty hard too. Also, Amoreirinha and Marques were great in defence! Brazil's top star, IMO, was Filipe, their lwb! He only stopped destroying that right side of our defence when Caçador was smart enough to replace Laranjeira with Speedy Vitor Borges...

and once again, our sub-21 have won it when it looks impossible! If this guys keep going like this, the death by heart attacks ratings in Portugal will increase a lot in the next years..

I watched from about the 50th minute and your left midfielder's very tricky eh, he did a few! Why were you guys wearing the old Nike kit btw? But yeah I think you played okay but Brasil werent very impressive. Was an okay game though, Nearer to the end Portugal were playing with more confidence. I don't think they did THAT bad!

i think they played badly because they created 1/20 of the chances that Brazil did... dunno why wearing the old kit... the left midfielder is called Paulo Sergio

Paulo Sergio kicks ass.

filipe Oliveira kicks ass:rockman: great winger, we need another good winger to compete with Simao

Originally posted by Funky--K
Yes he has lost something! But he didn't loose skills, talent or form... he lost confidence! And the way the media talk about it, and the pro-baia-anit-ricardo campaign and those jokes are sure not going to bring that confidence back....


you say that Ricardo hasn't lost his form....well i got news for you, HE HAS!!!!
You think he's world class, well he's not, but he was.

People keep talking about the WC. Baia sucked(and so did everybody else) and he didn't deserve to start, i'll admit. But don't forget who should of been the starter if it wasn't for a stupid suspension to Quim, cuz he had played in all Qualifying games until his suspension. HE SHOULD HAVE STARTED, not Ricardo.

RICARDO SUCKS. face it. Baia has proven once again his superiority over the past two seasons. People say it's because of the defence...well i got more news, goalies control the defence.

Even if we dont beat Iatlia (but we will) and dont make it to the final, Portugal can still achieve the Olympics in the 3rd place decision match against the other non-finalist!

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
you say that Ricardo hasn't lost his form....well i got news for you, HE HAS!!!!
You think he's world class, well he's not, but he was.

People keep talking about the WC. Baia sucked(and so did everybody else) and he didn't deserve to start, i'll admit. But don't forget who should of been the starter if it wasn't for a stupid suspension to Quim, cuz he had played in all Qualifying games until his suspension. HE SHOULD HAVE STARTED, not Ricardo.

RICARDO SUCKS. face it. Baia has proven once again his superiority over the past two seasons. People say it's because of the defence...well i got more news, goalies control the defence.

1st - FOR F*CK SAKE STOP USING THOSE CHILDISH EXPRESSIONS!!!! Ricardo doesn't "suck"! He's a great keeper, YOU face it! William sucks! Can you tell the difference? Players don't loose skills in one season, and that did not happen with Ricardo! He had a bad season, happens to everyone, happened to Deco! Don't say he sucks before the Euro

2nd - Yes, Quim played the qualifying, but Ricardo at the time was for the second consecutive time the "gr menos batido" of superliga! So don't come saying that Quim deserved it and Ricardo didn't.... and don't forget, they both deserved miles more that Baia at the time...

3rd - "Baia has proven once again his superiority over the past two seasons" WRONG AGAIN! You might not remember, but last year Ricardo was still considered the best portuguese keeper... actually all the media claimed it was the best season of his carreer... you might remember it:

- Saved 3 penalties in the UEFA Cup, including one taken by the best european scorer at the time, Henrik Larrson

- Scored one penalty in the UEFA Cup, against Malaga, showing responsabilty and proving to be a true captain

- Saved 4 penalties in the Superliga, and also scored one against Beira-Mar

- All the media considered him the best Boavista player in every match of the UEFA Cup


This season in Sporting he wasn't so lucky. You must consider that he played over 8 years in Boavista and was his first time in a differente club and different city! He did some bad exibitions, but he also did some great ones (remember 2nd half of the season agains FCP?) that noone seems to remember

"Ricardo Sucks" is a cliche phrase that you parrots insist in repiting just because you can't face the fact that "NT Baia" is over and it's his time now! His first big decente international chance!

Er... Oliveira's not a winger...

You might be mixing him up with Vaz Te.

Oliveira can play as a winger or center forward, like REYES


Funky over the past two seasons Baia has been better.

2 championships
UEFA CUP
Champion's League
Taca de Portugal
SuperCup finalist
Supertaca Portugal

eat it buddy

Over the past two seasons Porto has been better, Baia's won more titles. Baia is not Porto's team.

but he;s part of the team and he has been an IMPORTANT reason why we've won

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
Oliveira can play as a winger or center forward, like REYES


Funky over the past two seasons Baia has been better.

2 championships
UEFA CUP
Champion's League
Taca de Portugal
SuperCup finalist
Supertaca Portugal

eat it buddy

that's a pathetic argument! just because his team wins lots of titles it doesn't mean he's better than goalies of other teams! 23 argentinian players won the world cup in 86 and 22 of them weren't better than, for example, than Gary Lineker and lots of other players that played in that world cup and never won anything... get my point?

if Ricardo was in Porto you would still win those titles... but I don't think that Baia would be able to carry a seriously weakened Boavista through a whole season like Ricardo did....

Originally posted by Funky--K
if Ricardo was in Porto you would still win those titles...


This season's Ricardo would never had made that save against Giuly in the final... it would had been a goal.

Face it man... Ricardo had so many chances of proving he diserved to be the starter in the Euro and has been blowing so hard it hurts. Countless goals that were his fault in these friendlies since the WC2002.

What's the big deal in admitting it.... Ricardo was awesome 2 years ago... since he joined Sporting he sux.

Yes it doesn't mean he'll do bad at the Euro but we just shouldn't be gambling with his form when we have Baia in superform and Moreira in pretty good form also.

Again this stupid discussions about who's the best portuguese GK... :rolleyes: First of all, Baía was and still is the BEST portuguese GK(not counting his worst phase of his carrer when he had lots of injuries), secondly after Baía, Moreira is the best, i have no doubt about that. Just to finish, i always saw Ricardo(even when he was at Boavista) as a NORMAL GK, not outstanding like Baía and Moreira ATM. Ricardo is a good keeper, nothing more than that, he made some brilliant seasons at Boavista cause he had a good defense in front of him. Ricardo and Quim are GK of the same level IMO, good keepers but not world class like Baía.

[dfm], please, dont claim things like "bais is the best"! You just expressing your opinion... don't say it like you're the one who decides it...

anyway, let's quit this subject for good! Ricardo is nº1 at the time and he still might have a hard time keeping it against Quim, which is good since there's more competition between the players... so let's PLEASE support the ones who are there and not brag about those who are not...

Originally posted by Virgo
This season's Ricardo would never had made that save against Giuly in the final... it would had been a goal.

Face it man... Ricardo had so many chances of proving he diserved to be the starter in the Euro and has been blowing so hard it hurts. Countless goals that were his fault in these friendlies since the WC2002.

What's the big deal in admitting it.... Ricardo was awesome 2 years ago... since he joined Sporting he sux.

Yes it doesn't mean he'll do bad at the Euro but we just shouldn't be gambling with his form when we have Baia in superform and Moreira in pretty good form also.

Countless goals? 2, max 3

the save against giuly? ricardo is faster than baia, and better coming on to the player... he just lacks smartness in crosses!

and it was not 2 years ago, like i said, it was ONE year ago, before he joined sporting...

yeah, enough of that crap about who's the best...at the moment, the best portuguese players are the ones scolari has chosen...so let's support those ones and not think about who isn't there..

anyway, just saying hi, i'm back to the forums :p

you can clearly tell which country's are more enthusiastic about football!!

Only us and the dutch (and very few english) have changed our sigs to nt ones...


WELCOME BACK FILIPOWER!

Originally posted by Funky--K
[dfm], please, dont claim things like "bais is the best"! You just expressing your opinion... don't say it like you're the one who decides it...

anyway, let's quit this subject for good! Ricardo is nº1 at the time and he still might have a hard time keeping it against Quim, which is good since there's more competition between the players... so let's PLEASE support the ones who are there and not brag about those who are not...

It's my opinion but it's also the opinion of most of the people that knows about football, only Scolari don't think that way. Ricardo is not the number one, he was forced to be since there's no Baía in our NT and i think after the Euro we'll find out what happened in FPF cause they have the responsabilty of Scolari being coaching us. :kader:

welcome back Filipower

Originally posted by Filipower

anyway, just saying hi, i'm back to the forums :p

Welcome back mate. (H)

thnaks ya mates...

Who do you reckon will start in defense for Portugal? Will Ricardo Carvalho? What about Paulo Ferreira?

unfortunately R. Carvalho is a bench player. Scolari would rather play Couto. Paulo Ferreira is a starter without any bit of doubt.

Virgo----thank you somebody who can understand what i've been saying about Ricardo.


Ricardo would not make that save. You say he has no confidence. If you have no confidence then he wouldn't come charging out like that would he. He's lost confidence and form, face it Baia is 34 and hasn't lost his form and talent and Ricardo is 27-28 and his career is on a downturn. I see him playing for a Varzim in two years(hopefully not then they'd never get back the the Superlga

Ricardo Carvalho --- Couto (H)

Well, like I said before, Ricardo had a bad season. He lacks confidence and all the controversy surrounding Baia not being called affected him. That's not an excuse, obviously, because he should have enough mental strenght to overcome all that. This is a problem, because we're going to have worries about our GK during the game, when instead, he should be an extra safety to the team. But talking about Baía doesn't make sense. He wasn't called, so... We have Moreira, Quim and Ricardo, all good keepers.

Anyway, I think Ricardo IS world class. I definitely don't think he will keep on a downturn. He will recover sooner or later and then you'll all see. He's one of the best Portuguese keepers I've ever seen. Everyone has bad seasons... Baía had bad seasons, even before the injuries. Don't you remember how he was criticized when at Barça? How many mistakes he made? Those things happen. What distinguishes the great players from the others is that those are the ones who can overcome bad phases and return in great strenght. Baía did it, and honestly, I think Ricardo will also be able to do it. But let's see... Only time will tell.

I just hope that Scolari don´t put Ricardo in the starting eleven, honestly Ricardo sucks!
During the entire season i had the impression that Sporting made a KFC franchise in their goal! Almost every week when i watced the highligths of sporting games there it was, another strange goal allowed by Ricardo, another missing cross by Ricardo, another late dive... to sad to be true!

I would put the goal at the hands of Moreira despite is lack of experience in a major tournment.

Originally posted by Nakamura
Well, like I said before, Ricardo had a bad season. He lacks confidence and all the controversy surrounding Baia not being called affected him. That's not an excuse, obviously, because he should have enough mental strenght to overcome all that. This is a problem, because we're going to have worries about our GK during the game, when instead, he should be an extra safety to the team. But talking about Baía doesn't make sense. He wasn't called, so... We have Moreira, Quim and Ricardo, all good keepers.

Anyway, I think Ricardo IS world class. I definitely don't think he will keep on a downturn. He will recover sooner or later and then you'll all see. He's one of the best Portuguese keepers I've ever seen. Everyone has bad seasons... Baía had bad seasons, even before the injuries. Don't you remember how he was criticized when at Barça? How many mistakes he made? Those things happen. What distinguishes the great players from the others is that those are the ones who can overcome bad phases and return in great strenght. Baía did it, and honestly, I think Ricardo will also be able to do it. But let's see... Only time will tell.

finally someone that can make sense!

Hi, I'm new.....obviously.

Glad to see alot of portuguese posters.

Now let's get down to business. If I was coach........

------------------Quim------------------------
Ferreira---Couto---Andrade---Rui Jorge
--------------- Costinha---------------------
-----Figo-------------------------Simao-----
----------------Rui Costa--------------------
-----------Gomes----Pauleta---------------

I think two strikers would do us good.

BTW....How can I get a Portugal sig like everyone else?

Thats not a very good lineup. Rui Jorge cant take over Nuno Valente to me even though Valente is cheap and Ricardo Carvalho should start over couto,evryone knows that. The goalie thing is kinda hard. Ricardo played in all the warm up games and like last year to the world cup, you should keep the same guy in.

Anyways Welcome.

Ok, I'll give my reasons.

Quim - I just have a feeling about this guy. Ricardo is severly losing form and Morreira is still to young.

Paulo Ferreira - C'mon, who doesn't love this guy.

Couto - He is our captain and our best defender.

Andrade - He was great this year. He's also very quick. His speed and Couto's wits are a good match.

Rui Jorge - Good player. Less likely to get red carded.

Costinha - He should be playing at Real Madrid.

Figo - He is playing at Real Madrid....besides the fact he is the best since Eusebio.

Simao - He impresses me with his hard work, speed, and vision. He may decide some matches for us.

Rui Costa - One of the best OMF in the world. Deco is good, but doesn't have the experience.

Pauleta - Best descibed as the Raul of Portugal. He can pass and score.

Nuno Gomes - He is a damn good striker, always making runs. I hope that at one point in the tourny he can play alongside Pauleta. He should have played instead of Pinto in the WC.

pauleta Raul of Portugal.lol

Originally posted by Paulo Da Silva
pauleta Raul of Portugal.lol

I'm a Real Madrid fan....soorrrry.

I just see that Pauleta and Raul have similar abilities. They can both score and pass. Lucky for us, Pauleta scores more.

you almost got it

Raul is the Pauleta of Spain

Originally posted by Funky--K
you almost got it

Raul is the Pauleta of Spain

:) Yeah, I should have wrote it that way.

Originally posted by Nuno79
I'm a Real Madrid fan....soorrrry.

I just see that Pauleta and Raul have similar abilities. They can both score and pass. Lucky for us, Pauleta scores more.

your entitled to your opinion

So how do I get a sig like yours?

Originally posted by Nuno79
BTW....How can I get a Portugal sig like everyone else?

get 100 posts, then go here ----------> http://www.soccergaming.tv/forumdisplay.php?forumid=140


Get a Real Madrid one instead ;)

you got some posting to do

For the Euro I'll get a Portugal one. After that I'll have a Madrid one.

Welcome Nuno. Another portuguese poster is always excellent. ;)

Originally posted by Nuno79
Hi, I'm new.....obviously.

Glad to see alot of portuguese posters.

Now let's get down to business. If I was coach........

------------------Quim------------------------
Ferreira---Couto---Andrade---Rui Jorge
--------------- Costinha---------------------
-----Figo-------------------------Simao-----
----------------Rui Costa--------------------
-----------Gomes----Pauleta---------------

I think two strikers would do us good.

Welcome mate, i just have one thing to tell u, that lineup is not the best for us... ;)

I want to see some goals tommorow. RTP should be showing the game. Unfortunately Euro 2004 costs $179 on PPV here.

Originally posted by [dfm]
Welcome mate, i just have one thing to tell u, that lineup is not the best for us... ;)

It could work if we need to score goals. I trust Scolari's current lineup as the best for Portugal.

Originally posted by Nuno79
It could work if we need to score goals. I trust Scolari's current lineup as the best for Portugal.

We don't need 2 strikers to score goals IMO, i think we should have a strong midfield so i think this will be the best lineup...

----------------------Ricardo*------------------------

P.Ferreira---F.Couto---R.Carvalho---N.Valente

----------------Costinha---Maniche-----------------

Figo-----------------Rui Costa**-------------Simão

-----------------------Pauleta-------------------------

*I will put Moreira instead of him but he lacks in experience... :rolleyes:
**He's a symbol of our NT and i think Deco can deal with this, he'll be a "suplente de luxo" for us. (H)

If Scolari starts with Costinha and Petit in the starting 11 against Greece the things will not work very well in our team, i hate this philosophy of using 2 DM, Maniche is able to defend and attack very well mr.Scolari! :f***:

Originally posted by [dfm]

----------------------Ricardo*------------------------

P.Ferreira---F.Couto---R.Carvalho---N.Valente

----------------Costinha---Maniche-----------------

Figo-----------------Rui Costa**-------------Simão

-----------------------Pauleta-------------------------



This is a good lineup. I would only switch Andrade for Carvalho.

Originally posted by Nuno79
This is a good lineup. I would only switch Andrade for Carvalho.

Carvalho is better than Andrade, when Porto's defense was Andrade-Carvalho i always saw him as the best(tackling, marking). IMO R.Carvalho is one of the best CB in the world ATM. ;)

Either way, our defense will be stong. What's important is midfield defense. Maniche would be a much better choice over Petit.

Originally posted by [dfm]


----------------------Ricardo*------------------------

P.Ferreira---F.Couto---R.Carvalho---N.Valente

----------------Costinha---Maniche-----------------

Figo-----------------Rui Costa**-------------Simão

-----------------------Pauleta-------------------------



Damn, That is pretty good. :confused:

Originally posted by RUSI
Damn, That is pretty good. :confused:

It looks great on paper, I just hope they can actually win when the time comes.

hey nuno, i can make you a sig, just gimme an idea of what you want (players, logos, letters, etc)

My Lineup would be...

------------------Quim-------------------
Ferreira-Andrade-Carvalho-Valente
---------------Costinha------------------
Figo---Deco---Rui Costa---Ronaldo(Simao, not sure)
---------------Pauleta--------------------

Deco said he feels comfortable playing alongside Rui Costa, so why not?

Originally posted by Funky--K
hey nuno, i can make you a sig, just gimme an idea of what you want (players, logos, letters, etc)

When I reach 100 posts, I'll send you a pm. Thanx.

Originally posted by Aveirenses
My Lineup would be...

------------------Quim-------------------
Ferreira-Andrade-Carvalho-Valente
---------------Costinha------------------
Figo---Deco---Rui Costa---Ronaldo(Simao, not sure)
---------------Pauleta--------------------

Deco said he feels comfortable playing alongside Rui Costa, so why not?

We have a really good squad. All these lineups look great. I hope we win.

huh... i don't think ya need 100 posts... i'll just make ya one now...

Someone said I needed 100 posts. How bout one with Figo, Ronaldo, Rui Costa and Deco.

You need 100 posts to ask for one in the sig/ava forum. ;)

I have 100 in no time.

Funky--K, could you please make one for me too? Mine isn't very special and it's stolen, lol. What I want is basically this: a picture of our team and the FPF logo.

I would really appreciate it, but if you can't, no problem, thanks anyway. :)

Originally posted by Aveirenses
My Lineup would be...

------------------Quim-------------------
Ferreira-Andrade-Carvalho-Valente
---------------Costinha------------------
Figo---Deco---Rui Costa---Ronaldo(Simao, not sure)
---------------Pauleta--------------------



can't argue with that line-up

ok, but i'll be away for the weekend so I'll have both your sigs completed on monday

Thanks bro.

Thank you very much, mate! :)

we have a hard choice today. AA and U21 games will be played at the same hour exactly. (19h45) :rolleyes:

I think i will zapping between the two. FPF could have thought about this possibility and marked Lithuania game to afternoon, it's a saturday... :kader:

Hopefully Lithuania game is on English Tv? I think Holland is but I want to see Portugal!

That lineup looks very good by the way, very strong attacking wise and good at the back.