Why has this tournament been completely neglected by FIFA/EA? I hope to see it included in the future. FIFA shouldn't forget a lot of African stars [ Jay-jay Okocha, George Weah, Tony Yeboah, VIERIA, too numerous to mention] have helped shape the new age of football. And if the Korean league can be included I don't see any reason why at least one African league cannot be.

Couldnt Agree More (Y)

The African cup of nations is one of the best tournaments in the world for me. So much talent and excitement. The list of talent to come out of The African cup of nations is endless ( Mboma, Eto'o, Weah, Okocha, Benni etc.)

EA is very forgetful of the important cups outside of europe

They made Euro 2004, I reckon they should of made EURO 2004 and African CUP 2004 together, probably that would too much.

Also Copa America, Asia Cup (?) and another competition from south america should be added.

We want the CONCACAF Gold Cup also.

The problem is that people forget that EA is a racist company.

Does iut suprise any of you that the African or Asian teams are always inferior?

Or doe sit suprise u that there are no African clubsides on EA

Or are u suprised that a player like Rooney would be better rated than Martins??

Well if u have not gotten the idea yet, u better brace urself with the truth- EA is a racist company

HAHAHA I agree to sum extent kay

Originally posted by kaycee2g
The problem is that people forget that EA is a racist company.

Does iut suprise any of you that the African or Asian teams are always inferior?

Or doe sit suprise u that there are no African clubsides on EA

Or are u suprised that a player like Rooney would be better rated than Martins??

Well if u have not gotten the idea yet, u better brace urself with the truth- EA is a racist company

African or Asian teams are inferior in real life too.
Until last year there were no South American clubs either. Is a business, European clubs sell big, so they cater to that first.

People that always try to take every argument into a race thing, are quite annoying really..

i remember in FIFA 2000 there were some African Clubs but in the next FIFA games .. the disappeared
i hope they'll put some African and Asian clubs this year

gonna admit that asians are far from the european football.. but we must not forget them.. but included some..

Originally posted by kaycee2g
The problem is that people forget that EA is a racist company.

Does iut suprise any of you that the African or Asian teams are always inferior?

Or doe sit suprise u that there are no African clubsides on EA

Or are u suprised that a player like Rooney would be better rated than Martins??

Well if u have not gotten the idea yet, u better brace urself with the truth- EA is a racist company


omg:kader:

Gora, i am an educated man, so i certainly do not blame all issues on race.

But, can u miss the clear facts?????

Or are u telling me that Rooney is better than Martins???

Even if i am led to belive ur "blind" claim that European teams are better than all African teams, does that give EA the right to neglect Africa??? Asia?? of or the America's

Look, Africans, Americans and Asians buy the gamme just as much as Europeans do. I am not asking for EA to do what they do not want to, but the truth is that if EA is going to claim that thier game is a global game, then it must reflect an accurate census of the globe.

Gora, i will not call u racist, as that will be unintelligent of me. Notwithstanding that, it bothers me that u object to having a a bette representation of other MINORITY groups.

Originally posted by Payaah
They made Euro 2004, I reckon they should of made EURO 2004 and African CUP 2004 together, probably that would too much.

Also Copa America, Asia Cup (?) and another competition from south america should be added.

You're right but at least the Copa America has featured in past FIFAs as a bonus tournament

Originally posted by kaycee2g
Gora, i am an educated man, so i certainly do not blame all issues on race.

But, can u miss the clear facts?????

Or are u telling me that Rooney is better than Martins???

Even if i am led to belive ur "blind" claim that European teams are better than all African teams, does that give EA the right to neglect Africa??? Asia?? of or the America's

Look, Africans, Americans and Asians buy the gamme just as much as Europeans do. I am not asking for EA to do what they do not want to, but the truth is that if EA is going to claim that thier game is a global game, then it must reflect an accurate census of the globe.

Gora, i will not call u racist, as that will be unintelligent of me. Notwithstanding that, it bothers me that u object to having a a bette representation of other MINORITY groups.

I am not saying they should not have African teams in the game. But EA adds teams that are going to increase their profits, if they buy the rights to a team, which means, they have to expend money, they want to make that money back with an increase in sales. Is a multinational company which is in it for the money, nothing else.. about minorities.. well.. I think you are starting to mix things around. About the difference in ratings.. I can find a lot of players that I think should have been better rated than others, without having to go into race.

Originally posted by kaycee2g
The problem is that people forget that EA is a racist company.

Does iut suprise any of you that the African or Asian teams are always inferior?

Or doe sit suprise u that there are no African clubsides on EA

Or are u suprised that a player like Rooney would be better rated than Martins??

Well if u have not gotten the idea yet, u better brace urself with the truth- EA is a racist company Mate, if EA were racist, why didn't they put their home country - Canada - in the game each year????

About players accurancy, don't blame EA, blame researchers :).

I'm also surprised there's no more African/Asian clubs but maybe they think this is not really important for the community. They added South American since there's an huge work from SA, so maybe if there's more patches and updates for Asia/Africa, there will be some clubs from there too.

I started a petition for FIFA 2006 on my forum and people are able to ask teams/leagues that are not in the game. And be sure I'll try to be listen (I'm already but I'll try to be more).

Cheers, Cyprom.

Originally posted by valioso
African or Asian teams are inferior in real life too.
Until last year there were no South American clubs either. Is a business, European clubs sell big, so they cater to that first.

People that always try to take every argument into a race thing, are quite annoying really..

That's a dumb thing to say! Inferior in what way? Some of the best players in the world are African and thier skills are immense! Al Ahly and Zamalek of Egypt beat A.S Roma and Real Madrid in friendlys recently. These were full sqauds. Need I remind you how Cameroon battered opposition in Italia 90 [ including the champs Argentina] and outplayed the Gary Linekar led English team before losing the game to England's 12th player- the ref? What about little Senegal beating France in WC 2002? And of course England again failed to beat Nigeria in 2002 who had a great run in US 94 b4 falling to Italy in injury time. These African teams can't match the resources at the disposal of the Euro teams but they've still made thier mark on the game. If the playing fields were even Africa and South America would dominate world football!!

Originally posted by loublaze33
That's a dumb thing to say! Inferior in what way? Some of the best players in the world are African and thier skills are immense! Al Ahly and Zamalek of Egypt beat A.S Roma and Real Madrid in friendlys recently. These were full sqauds. Need I remind you how Cameroon battered opposition in Italia 90 [ including the champs Argentina] and outplayed the Gary Linekar led English team before losing the game to England's 12th player- the ref? What about little Senegal beating France in WC 2002? And of course England again failed to beat Nigeria in 2002 who had a great run in US 94 b4 falling to Italy in injury time. These African teams can't match the resources at the disposal of the Euro teams but they've still made thier mark on the game. If the playing fields were even Africa and South America would dominate world football!!

you are talking victories in counted games, and on friendlies, which for Madrid and Roma were just a way to make money, no more. Some of the best players in the world are African?.. well.. I guess we disagree on that. I dont think any african team could win, neither the portuguese, french, epl, la liga or calcio. African teams have come a long way, but there are not on the same level as most european teams. Thats my opinion.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by valioso
you are talking victories in counted games, and on friendlies, which for Madrid and Roma were just a way to make money, no more. Some of the best players in the world are African?.. well.. I guess we disagree on that. I dont think any african team could win, neither the portuguese, french, epl, la liga or calcio. African teams have come a long way, but there are not on the same level as most european teams. Thats my opinion. [/QUO


Of course they're not on the same level!! Most African leagues are only semi-pro. You European teams have players making over 80 grand in a week! World's apart!! But what happens when u put an African in a European club? 8 out of 10 times he establishes himself in the first team and outshines the rest. George Weah, Tony Yeboah, Abedi Pele [old skool] Martins [ Inter Milan], Henri Camara [Wolves], Yakubu [ Portsmouth], Drogba [ Marseille], Jay-Jay Okocha, Samuel E'to, Benni McCarthy....the damn list goes on. All these are key players at thier respective clubs. All the leagues you mention can't do without African talent. The bloody French league basically imports Africans and some get naturalised to play for France [ Ghana's Desailly, Senegal's Vieria, and Zidane has Algerian parents, considered to be among the best in the world]. Even one of the top strikers in the Nationwide div 1 is African born, Robert Earnshaw. And you have the Nigerian players Shola Ameobi and the Ehiogu winning call ups to English youth teams. One of the finalists in the Belgian cup final, Beveren, has 10 Ivory coast players in its first 11!!!!! Portugal also steals talents from its former colonies Angola and Mozambique [Eusebio from the 60's] But progress is so slow coz Africa is very poor so these damn European teams hold on to our players when they're needed for national duty. On the other hand Euro teams never have problems getting all thier players. Good for you, the 'superior' ones, hope the thousands of talented African players you've snatched help you win more honours!! Inferior my ass. Just wait for 2010. You have no chance in the African heat!!

One more thing Mr. Gora, when you speak of African players you have to consider every black player that has played the game. Cause thats where they all came from! Pele, Henry!!!

Originally posted by loublaze33
One more thing Mr. Gora, when you speak of African players you have to consider every black player that has played the game. Cause thats where they all came from! Pele, Henry!!!

Thats a pretty ignorant statement. Cause then you have to say that all American players are european, all mexican are spanish, and so on.. they may come from Africa, but they were not born or raised in Africa for the most cases, so they are not considered African, you cannot rate African teams higher because of Henry.. because he plays for the French national team. You yourself admitted that african leagues are not on the same level, so you yourself already admitted that those teams are inferior.

Originally posted by loublaze33

Good for you, the 'superior' ones, hope the thousands of talented African players you've snatched help you win more honours!! Inferior my ass. Just wait for 2010. You have no chance in the African heat!!

By your logic, you should also rank Korea higher.. I mean, they beat Spain and Italy in the world cup. Then why are all the teams in the K-league crap?

good points.... Zidanes parents were part african??:gavin:

Originally posted by valioso
Thats a pretty ignorant statement. Cause then you have to say that all American players are european, all mexican are spanish, and so on.. they may come from Africa, but they were not born or raised in Africa for the most cases, so they are not considered African, you cannot rate African teams higher because of Henry.. because he plays for the French national team. You yourself admitted that african leagues are not on the same level, so you yourself already admitted that those teams are inferior.

You're obviously an a-hole so they're is no point discussing with you. And yes, all blacks are African, without football some of these players would never be considered as real citizens of the countries they play for. Wait for 2010!!!

Originally posted by loublaze33
And yes, all blacks are African,

You are only African, if you are born in Africa.. your ancestors and your family tree may be African, but somehow last time I checked Atlanta, is not in Africa.

Wait for 2010?.. thats 6 yrs from now, and if 6 yrs from now African nations deserve to be rated as high as the good European teams, then they should, but as of today, they havent earned that rating.
I am an a-hole? maybe, but at least I dont use race or racism as a way to start stupid arguments.

Originally posted by loublaze33
One more thing Mr. Gora, when you speak of African players you have to consider every black player that has played the game. Cause thats where they all came from! Pele, Henry!!!

:| :| :| :| oh please.
that's the most ignorant argument that's been presented yet.

I think that it is wrong though to call someone african just because of their origin to that country. Thats like calling Landon Donovan a German Striker or something like that. Or any american an european. That is there ancestory but it is not where THEY are from.

PS Landon Donovan is horrible

Originally posted by valioso
By your logic, you should also rank Korea higher.. I mean, they beat Spain and Italy in the world cup. Then why are all the teams in the K-league crap?

Exactly. They're so crap it's not worth it playing them. How many people watch Asian football before they label it as being crap? But FIFA really disrespects anything not European

Gora, u continue in ur quest to ignore my question. I asked, are u in agreement to the ratings put forward by EA that rooney is better than Martins????

The issue here is that should EA be allowed to under-represent a minority group because that group is not a financial pool?? my case being brought forward for debate is that If EA is going to call themselves a global game, then i do believe that Atleast one African league should be present.

Is it a crime to be black or African?? Asia has the ki-league, North Americxa has the MLS, South America has Brazilian league, yet Africa does not even have one??? forgive my anger, but i just cannot understand it. I cant.

I havent seen Martins play, so I will not comment on that, but of course like a lot of people I dont agree with the way EA rate a lot of players, not only the African players. So race doesnt matter, they are just stupid.

Originally posted by kaycee2g
Gora, u continue in ur quest to ignore my question. I asked, are u in agreement to the ratings put forward by EA that rooney is better than Martins????

The issue here is that should EA be allowed to under-represent a minority group because that group is not a financial pool?? my case being brought forward for debate is that If EA is going to call themselves a global game, then i do believe that Atleast one African league should be present.

Is it a crime to be black or African?? Asia has the ki-league, North Americxa has the MLS, South America has Brazilian league, yet Africa does not even have one??? forgive my anger, but i just cannot understand it. I cant.

if i remember correctly George Weah was one of the top players in FIFA 98, and Desailly was one of the best defenders. and in FIFA 2003 Benny McCarthy was rated as good as Shevchenko. so don't give me that crap about African players not being rated fairly.

Originally posted by kaycee2g
The problem is that people forget that EA is a racist company.

Does iut suprise any of you that the African or Asian teams are always inferior?

Or doe sit suprise u that there are no African clubsides on EA

Or are u suprised that a player like Rooney would be better rated than Martins??

Well if u have not gotten the idea yet, u better brace urself with the truth- EA is a racist company

I've never seen a picture of a black male on the front of FIFA, and the players' voices all sound white in Madden 2004. Damn, you never see blacks pictured on the EA website either; it's a disgrace! No black music in EA games, all white trash.

I am the judge, at the Royal Kangaroo Crown Court: EA Sports are guilty of 1st degree racism!

Oh yeah, if you don't like the verdict- you're a racist!!

I Thank you all- goodnight!

I truely think that all of you are nuts! :crazyboy:

But I would love to see the african cup of nations, the african style of play is very exciting and fun to watch.

Originally posted by Davilton
I've never seen a picture of a black male on the front of FIFA, and the players' voices all sound white in Madden 2004. Damn, you never see blacks pictured on the EA website either; it's a disgrace! No black music in EA games, all white trash.

I am the judge, at the Royal Kangaroo Crown Court: EA Sports are guilty of 1st degree racism!

go and check FIFA 2003 cover
i think there is a Black Player on it
and his name is Davids

but not African of course

Originally posted by aBadBoy
go and check FIFA 2003 cover
i think there is a Black Player on it
and his name is Davids

but not African of course

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH! I knew my sarcasm would be too subtle for this messageboard...

Please read my postings again, FEEL the SARCASM. ;-)

ronaldhino is brown:D

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ha ha ha

now that was funny.


But, have u ever heared any African music in FIFA?? have u seen any African player on the face of FIFA??

Face it, EA are either racist, or anti-African.

I'm hoping that FIFA 2005 will have a BIT more interest in non-European sides, after all, it's not UEFA 2005, is it?

Seriously, are you telling me that the Swiss league or the Swedish or Belgian leagues are better then the J-League, the Liga Mexicana, or the Argentine League? Or that Austria is a better national team then Japan? Or that Wrexham would beat Dalian Shide?

EA needs to include the Copa Libertadores, the CONCACAF Gold Cup, the Asian Cup, the African Cup of Nations, AS WELL AS several key world leagues. And if they take MLS out, they can count me and my friends out, we've bought the damn thing for 6 years, and every year had to put up with crappy interpretations of our league.

By the way, did what's his face check the pronunciations on any MLS players? If he says "Pet-ka" instead of Petke one more time I'm gonna track down EA's designers and force them to watch MLS until they get it right.

Pheww... :(