I am currently playing the demo of CM 99/00 but i can't win. First i was Ipswich town and lost to plymouth 3-2 in a friendly. Them I was man utd. and have only 1 win 3 ties and 3 losses so far. Could you please help me with the tactics? What do you recomend and how do you set them up? (which kind of passes, pressing, running etc) I would appreciate your support. Thanks a lot~~~~~~~~~~~

First let me say that Neutral is by farrrr the genius in this area!

But I have a system that has had reasonable success for me in Seria A.

Its a 4-1-2-1-2 formation.

The 4 defenders must be good, but the centre defenders must be above average.

The sweeper can be average. But the 'good-er' the better. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

The 2 wingers have to be on the far right and far left of the field and must both be brilliant. They must also be set to run down the field. I have Amoroso(l) and Ortega(r) and they are both having excellent games.

The AMC is very important. He must be a Paul Scholes, Joe Cole, or Alex Aguinaga type. He is sorta like a 3rd forward.

The two strikers just have to be snipers.

Set the passing to short. Neutral will probably have some more suggestions...

BTW Neutral, what is Alan Shearer up to in 2010?? Coaching England I hope?? http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

a_shearer, thanks, your cheque is in the mail http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

Futbolguy - the secret winning in CM3 & CM99/00 is to really approach the games as if they were REAL football matches. The game engine is incredibly realistic.

Before, each game one of the first things you want to do is to check out your opponents previous few matches. What tactics did they use? Which players played really well, and which ones are going to require special attention. Then you want to look at your team and see which players are playing well, and which ones aren't. Then you want to try and pick a formation that plays towards your strengths, but also adresses the other team's big players. I'll give you an example, if you're playing a team with a very very good four man midfield - then you might want to try and flood your midfield by playing 5 in the middle and gain an advantage by out numbering them - a 4-5-1 for example. If the opposition has good wingers then you may want to set your wingers to man mark them (only if your wingers have good 'tackling', and 'marking' stats). You also may want to look at the opposition's wingers and see if they have any weaknesses - for example, say their left winger has a low bravery rating - then you should set your right winger (who'll be marking him) to pressing, and hard tackling -that way the opposition player will think twice about going in to win a ball. You could use similar tactics to try and wind-up a player on the other team that has a high aggression rating - set someone to man mark him and get that person to tackle him hard - he may get p!ssed and then lash out at your player = red card = advantage you! (For this strategy look at the specific ref for the game - if he's 'harsh' it may work).

Okay, so midfield is taken care of - but what about your lone forward? Who should you pick? For me, I like to pick my strongest striker with good passing, and then I tell him to 'hold up the ball' - that way when balls come up from midfield he can hold the ball up, and wait for players to come and support him.

For your defence - do they have a good striker? Then it's imperative that you use a good, strong, fast, good tackling, defender with good marking ratings to keep him quiet.

This is just one example - you have to experiment to find the right mix of players and tactics - and you'll have to change depending on the opposition. But with Manchester United, you really have one of the easiest sides to start off with - they're strong in every position. Try a simple 4-4-2, with Stam, Johnsen in the middle - both man marking the opposition's two strikers. Get Stam to hold up the ball. Then Silvestre and Gary Neville on the sides (they're good in the game http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif ). Beckham right - let him run with the ball, and take long shots with mixed passing, and normal tackling - similar thing for Giggs on the left, but no long shots. Set the two arrows for Becks and Giggs to the top. In the middle, set Keane to hold up the ball, and take long shots [also, where it says tackling - set Keane to 'normal' - NOT team - because he's so agressive if you tell him to tackle hard he'll be sent off]. Scholes can run with the ball, take long shots, but don't give him a free role. [the entire midfield is zonal marking]. Then upfront get Andy Cole to run with the ball, and take long shots. And whoever of Cole or Yorke that is stronger get him to hold up the ball to provide service for the other. Then in the team settings choose short passing (United can easily use this approach because all their players are skilled). Pressing (to pressure the opponent) and Hard Tackling (to try and get under the skin of the opposition). Try and alternate 7 minute bursts of pressing because it'll tire out your players. You should easily be able to manage a top 5 position by just using the single tactic! But of course if you want to win the Premiership you're going to have to change things up for the big boys, ie Arsenal, Chelsea, Leeds. Morale is also very important and make sure your players are happy so they can perform to their potential.

Hope this helps, and let us know how you do.

I'm playing with Arsenal right now. I won all my friendlies and beat Man Utd. in the Charity Shield. But then I beat sheffield wed 3-1 and then lost 3 games to liverpool, bradford, and sunderland. I never scored a goal. My formation right now is 3-5-2 and it worked perfect in the beggining. But now i didn't change anything, i still have the same players in every game and same formation. What is wrong? Also I have pressing and everything set to default. Please help. Thanks a lot neutral!!!

Fotbal Guy,

CM is a clever piece of programming. The PC actually adapts to your style of play. If you play the same type of formation all the time, the teams you play will adapt.

Try bringing NEW players into your squad (bench some regular starters for a few games and see what happens)

Try short passing to build up longer and more powerful attacking bursts.

I play CM for about three hours a day (when I get that much time free in a day) - far more than FIFA or any other soccer game. I'd be giving advice myself if I wasn't always losing http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

However, one tip I'll give is about strikers. Sign one striker who is top notch at Finishing (or if you have no money, use whichever striker has the best finishing) and has a high ability (Robbie Fowler if you have the cash). Go to With Ball and position him right in front of goal on all the three furthermost forward pitch squares.

Next, try and sign a striker with high control and heading as a support striker - think Duncan Ferguson or Emile Heskey (I am using Salas to do this in my game). Position him behind the main striker on the With and Without Ball tactics, and offset to one side on the squares in the top left and right hand corner. Set passing to direct, and your midfielders will now knock it into the strikers, one man will knock it down, and the finisher will strike it in. Time after time...

Is CM only a manager or can you actually play? Which club-teams can you manage (only England?)?

Thanx

No Zambrotta, this is only managing, you follow the game by text, maybe seems boring ,BUT IT'S NOT!
You can control clubs in Brasil, Japan, Italy Sweden..and in A LOT of othes countries, and you can then in each country also control lower division teams and take them up the league system, this is as you might see a large game.

I'm not in a position to give advice either since I always seem close to getting sacked. However, I was managing Benfica and I had the team down as low as 16th in the league then I discovered and bought a young African striker named Oyawole and since I've put him in my line up I've climed up to 7th. So maybe you guys might have the same luck with him.

I been trying to get that Sigporsson guy everyone talks about but he refuses to come to Benfica.

Fotbalguy,
What formation were Bradford (!), Liverpool, and Sunderland playing? You can't really keep the same formation the entire season and win the league - like I said b4, if you find the right team, and play with just one tactic maybe you can get a top 5 place - but you're not going to win. Are you picking the right players for set pieces - corners, free kicks and penalties - that makes a bigger differance than most people imagine. Next time you play a game, check beforehand the previous results of the team that you're playing - look at the games THEY lost - what formation did their opposition play that day? Also look at the strategy used by the opposition - did they use short passing and off side trap? Try to see if you can emulate the same tactics that worked for other teams. But be careful to look at other stats too - sometimes they can dominate but the other team can get lucky and grind out a 1-0 lead - in that case you don't want to pick the tactics that will get you dominated!! http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

As for going in scoring droughts - is your team dominating - are you getting a lot of shots but they're just not going in? If you're not getting the shots and posession then something's wrong with your midfield. If you're getting the chances but your strikers keep getting low ratings and no goals - then they're probably in a slump.

Now you can do two things, you can either a)stick with them until they finally break through or b)relegate them to the bench or even the reserves. Which you choose depends on the player - for example, if you've got Anelka then you DON'T want to send him to the reserves because he'll sulk and just ask for a transfer. But say Owen isn't banging them in, then you might want to stick him on the bench for a couple of games to send him a message - for smaller status and younger players you can even send them to the reserves - many times a player will rebound and start scoring in no time. Just be sure that it's the player's fault and not the tactics before you screw around with his ego http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/wink.gif

Kill4Benfica - Sigporsson is the man, everyone talks about Javier Saviola being the best young striker in the game, but Andri has a much better strike rate. Also look out for Kennedy Barikalou - I spelt his last name wrong, but it's along those lines and he's a young Swede - and he's very good.

I am currently trying to buy Javier Saviola in my game, he is currently 18 years old and has 28 goals in 31 games right now in my game, but the team won't give him up...the easiet time to get him is at the begginning of you first season since he hasn't really made a name for himself yet...

I am the only person in here that likes to play with outsidr teams???


C'mon!!!


I played for 26 seasons (10 with Rushden and Diamonds, 1 with a lot of clubs and 16 with Flixton).


and believe me, the fun of this game is to take a shi!tty team and make a world class club out of it.

I am playing with Flixton in the Premiership right now and it is very very boring -- there is nowhere to promote. So, i think about taking another conference team....

About tactics:


If you loose every game, try the computer to make the squad selection for you. Just before the game go on holiday and come back right when the computer finishes simulating the games.

That is how I managed to survive for 26 years.

And a tip about players:

if you start with a team like arsenal, or Manu, or any very good team in England, in your first season, in 1999 go to a 3rd division team named Peterborough. There, there are about 7-8 good youngsters (Jellyman, Rusk, Duncliffe, Byrne, Lang, Etherington, Davies, Koogi, Cable, O'Flynn) that will become a superstars in future. For example: Etherington and Duncliffe won the world player of the year awards TWICE.

So, try to play with conference or serie C teams. I guarantee you it's fun

Cheres

Buddy, I ALWAYS start at a lower league team - don't think you're alone there. Nothing can compare to the romance of taking your team up through the playoffs. I've started in such places as Rushden and Diamonds, Partick Thistle, Barnet, and Huntly! In CM3 I started at my career at Partick and finished up as manager of Real Madrid - that's what's so amazing about the game. BUT! For people who are just starting out u really have to play with a big name team to get the gist of the game.

Hell yeah Russian Rocket!

I started as the manager of Hereford and worked my way up to AC Parma!

BTW, Andri is the man! So is Luciano Galletti!

I paired the two up front for the first time today against Fiorentina. 5 - nil to ME!

A brace for both Sigporsson and Galletti!

My other striker Hernan Crespo (injured), came off a 5 goal game against Paraguay with Argentina!

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (another one of my buys) has 6 goals in 5 games!!!

Life is gooood! http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

one question, how do you see the hidden values for a player? like the disliked teams, etc, that they talk about in that guy's guide to cm 99/00.

also, to sign saviola, don't play as an english team cuz they have some stupid rule about work permits, and sign him as quickly as possible and offer him like 18 million upfront cuz i had to try like 5 times till i got him the first 4 times i made the mistake of not offering him enough money and he kept signing with barcelona.

also, does anyone know of a foreign players limit? cuz i was real madrid and i tried to sign michael duff and they stopped me cuz they said i had too many foreign players or something. are english players considered foreign? oh that's right, they're not in the eu right.

also, i'm really having trouble transfering players, i don't mean my stars but like players i don't need. i tried taking him off the transfer list and lowering the price, but it never works. and the thing is, the squad is usually almost full so i have to get rid of some players to sign some good ones.

oh yeah, robbie keane is awesome! at least for man utd and real madrid in cm3, i don't know about cm99/00 cuz i never signed him there but i think he's just as good.

Well, I always play in England, and when i play I try to develope some British talents. i never try to build a team like Arsenal an Chelsea did for these past 5 years (in reality).

Also, a couple of times, Ferguson was fired from Man. Utd. and, for interest, i applied for job to Manu. they said: "ok". But I declined the offer. Why? 'Cause in my team I had more English youngsters, and more money and stuff.
So, in these 15 years i will probably try tu build another conference team. hope my hard drive still hae space.


P.S.
about world class players:
I have never bought a player like Shevchenko, Saviola, some swedish guy whose name starts with "B" and looks like a Turkish last name or something, Santa Cruz, Beckham because I was busy building my Rushden & D's. When i promoted to the premiership in 2005, some players retired, and other came on (once, in Arsenal's youth systema play "David Beckham" appeared. a 15-ear old. He became a star and retired recently in 2025).

I played about 4 seasons in the Premiership, and then I got to the 4th place. on the next season, chairman told me to stay clear of relegetion, an i did, finishing 16th. But he still fired me. So, I took over a few clubs. A funny thing: Liverpool was a bankrupt team and relegated to 2nd div. in 2006. And almost relegated to 3rd div. then, they changed the board of directors, but haven't been in the premierhsip ever since (in 22 years http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif). I managed them a couple of months, and finally took over Flixton in conference. And haven't been fired ever since. I am about 60 years old and I think about retireing as a coach and getting another manager and taking a conference team.


cheers,


P.S
I am the best manager in the world right now

P.P.S
one star did play for me, though -- Michael Owen at the age of 40. he retired and he is a coach in my team right now.

P.P.P.S
No, Christian Vieri played for Rushden and Diamonds as player/coach. He is around 50 years old and still a coach in Rushden and Diamonds who play in 1st div. right now.

P.P.P.P.S
there is a player called "Vladimir Tartarchuk". He is 59 right now in 2026 and says that he will retire every year, but he never does. I will wait until he is 70 and sign him as a player http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

P.P.P.P.P.S

for some reasons, teams like Alfreton Town, Guiseley, Bamber Bridge, Blyth, Emley, Lancaster and Spennymoor whatever have good youth academies; every year they get about 5-6 young wleshmen and irishmen, who become superstars in fitire. Irishmen and Welshmen come to play ONLY from those teams who never promote to the conference. Is that normal?

P.P.P.P.P.P.S
You can see the invisible ratings like "favorite club" in an editor called "JattSave" or "CM Scout"

P.P.P.P.P.P.P.S
Jattsave is a good editor. you can edit almost everything in there.

P.P.P.P.P.P.P.P.S
I haven't used JattSave or any other editor while playing this game

Editing - now THERS a specialist subject http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

You may remember the very first few editors for CM3 like Total CM3 - my brother and I made them very quickly following the release. Jattomcat, Tri Wasano, and others took up the baton after that. The best pre-game editor WOULD be Jonas' (his is most intuitive), but there is a bug in it that assigns names incorrectly when players are generated. Go for Tri Wasano's latest editor. For real-time editing, grab Parcye made by Colin 'Sigma' Myerscough. Edit team reputation, cash, attendences, match day, stadia etc. while the game is still running. The only option for save-games is Jattsave. This only edits players, not clubs, and is hit and miss (sometimes it doesn't open the Contracts file, sometimes it does). For save-game editing (eg. cheating), there is no other option.

Its always better not to cheat though - and use a decent data update too.

You can edit clubs with jattSave!!!

you cane edit the name, the city, the stadium, the colors, training facilities, and favorite/unfavorite players.

This one doesn't edit the budgets, though.


cheers,

I now have the full verasion of CM3. I am currently playing with AC Milan. I won the friendlies but again lost all others. I changed formations and players but i still lost. Any one have any tactics that i can download. I need serious help. thanks a lot guys!

Player tip: Zlatan Ibrahimovic 18 years old from Malmö FF

Don't know if he will be successful, but he looks good to me for a good price.

Sigporsson as many has said, is a must!

Over and out.

I was a little disapointed in the fact that in the season I played so far Nacional (Uru) have played only 2 games, one agains Cerro Porteno (1-3) and one that I have no idea to who. I got a little pissed and downloaded the editor and made the Uruguayan league, but when I started a new game I looked at Fixtures and coming matches and nothing. I also beterd the Uruguayans, their ranking is way to low.

PS. Hey Anyone know what happens to Recoba, Fonseca, Dely Valdez, Ruben Sosa and Poyet in the Future?

in my game they all have retired a long time ago.


Hey, FootballGuy, try what I told you:


Before the game go on holiday and come back as soon as the match got simulated. if you play with AC Milano, you should win with that tactic.

Where can I download the CM3 editor and what exactly does it do?

Thanks a lot.

Yeah, Bakircioglu - that's the fella, what a wonderful name!
Thanks Drinky http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

Well I won my second Italian Cup with Parma, and was well into my fifth season before I noticed that my Newcastle were in the relegation zone.

After some concerned monitoring of the situation I could take it no more and got the position of Toon Army Manager after they fired my idiot predecessor.

He left me with an OLD crappy team that was useless! BUT, I managed to squirm my way into bagging Andri 'Sniper' Sigporroson so I am set! Just a few young defenders away from decency.

So far I am 3 - 0 - 0 as manager. Perfect start!

I have been playing as S****horpe in CM 99/00 and after 5 years I have won everything, Div 2, Div 1, Premiership, both cups, Windscreen Shield, Supercup, World club cup, world club championship, Championsleague, runner up in the UEFA cup. I have been playing:

o o
| o |
o o o
o
o o o

most of the time, I was playing with my left striker marking the goalkeeper, but in the last season, more teams have started playing the offside trap against me so i have had to modify. It looks like an odd formation, but both the support man and anchor man are essential, I can't win without them.

I have done the same at Leeds.

Admitedly I did cheat a bit as S****horpe, I created 4 players:-

me - a crap AM/F LC with world class potential
a mate - a crap striker with some potential
Don Revie - a GK/SW/D/DM/M/AM/F RLC (I had to do it)
and a goalkeeper.

These players were meant to be crap (except me) but they turned out to be really good. I also gave myself 4M to spend and spent it on:

Etherington, Davies, kenna, Jellyman, Cable (Peterbrough); Dillon (Rotherham); Gudnasson (Liverpool); Risso (free transfer); Lange (Tromso). I was already blessed with some very good players at s****horpe. Logan, Hope, Walker, Harsley and Graves. All but graves were in my team last season. I have since sold the ageing Hope and Logan for a combined 11M

Not bad I think. I know I have cheated, but I have done the same before with Leeds and S****horpe in CM3 and as Leeds in CM 99/00.

The formation didn't really come out right, so i'll try again, o for spaces X for players, | for players runs:

oXoXo
|oXo|
XoXoX
ooXoo
oXXXo

This damn silly forum can't take Scu.nthorpe because of the s C U N T horpe in it. I almost forgot the point of my long post. I have won all that, 5 leagues, 15 cups, 36 manager awards, p328/w276, and a european champioship with wales (Hartson scores loads if he marks the goalkeeper). Why am I not top of the manager charts, I am 8th in England!!!!!!!
16th world wide!! why???????????????

Phil, are u playing CM3 or CM99/00? If you're playing CM3 there's a bug to do with your manager rating - u need to use an editor and change your manager potential to 200 (max) that way you get the rating you deserve. If you're playing CM99/00 - I don't know...
Neo, Zlatan Ibrahimovic becomes an excellent player for Inter - he, Moukoko, and Barikoulu (spelling) lead the attack for Sweden.

The name is Kennedy Bakircioglu http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

Russian Rocket

what about Carini?

My brother played his first season with Porto and won the league directly. But to come to the Champions League he has got to go thru 2 qualifying rounds!

Is it really so that the winner of the Portugal league has to do so in real life..I think it's strange..well well..

well..?

BEST THREAD EVER! I remember it very well. I can't believe I never replied once, well I guess that's why it has taken so long for me to get 500 posts.

Awwwwwww - Listening to a great song and reading this. Seeing all the old veterans. "Drinky UKSN", and "Neutral", and "Kevin SG".

Good times Nimreitz, good times.

It might've been over a year ago but I can remember looking at this topic. I can remember almost exactly what it said, quite amazing really.

This was really the first time when RR started bragging about his skills. Next it was 'armless 70 year old Siberians' hehe

I opened the CM 00/01 demo today and thought I'd continue my Hartlepool game which I hadn't played for months.

Currently doing quite well (knock on wood) 10 points from 4 league games and I'm through to the 2nd round of the Worthington Cup, where I'll be facing Charlton.

I signed around 15 free players and added a few more for very little. While most shine in the reserves, a handful are first team regulars.

I have around 40,000 pounds but I don't know what to spend it on. My goalie is Rachubka, my defence is very solid, my defensive midfielder is quite good, as are my central midfielders, attacking midfielders and striker.

I did secure a brilliant loan deal: David Dunn from Blackburn and I'm only paying 30% of his wages. Let's see if he can hold off Luca Aluno Corbucci and Tommy Miller.

HEY, Siberians RULE!!!. byt the way, since I am from Far East of Russia, I always play with Siberian/Far Eastern clubs in the Russian League in CM. Next time what I want to do is to create a club in non-league section from Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, from Kamchatka peninsula (take out an atlas and find it), which in reality existed, however doesn't exist now, and wait for this club to promote so that I can take over it.. Would be fun for Manchester United to fly 9 hours to play a game :) I already had taken Luch Vladivostok to the heights and played a lot with European grand clubs, and, it takes longer to fly to Vladivostok than to Kamchatka peninsula!


I can find a few of my lamer posts in this thread.. This was when I just started playing.. Now, I don't use the "go on holiday" option, unless it is some very unworthy match (worthington cupin England, Russian cup in Russia).. I got pretty good at this game :) Yet not very good; there are a few Russian CM experts I know who are so deep in the game, they can create a kind of tactics that will guarantee you a win.. Wanna to become as good as they are :)

can't wait for the next CM to come out. and, maybe, who knows, the FIFA game will also be worthy to buy; EA makes a great game every 4 years, it seems :D

I only have the CM 00/01 demo but I think I've found the perfect tactic with Hartlepool.

A 4-1-2-2-1 is working great at Hartlepool for me. I have something like 9 wins and 2 draws (league and cup)

I just purchased 15 random players and my scouts found 4 players- 3 for free and one dirt cheap that all play in the first team.

The perfect tactic is 3-4-1-2. If you get a good player working behind the strikers it works wonders. I took Cheltenham Town from 21st in Division 3 (when I was appointed) to Premiership and European champions 9 years later with that tactic.

I used the 3-4-1-2 with Liverpool in 2005 and have dome good success rotating it with a 3-4-3 diamond.

Liverpool?


sigh.
sigh.
sigh.
sigh.
sigh
sigh.

I just can't get excited without the possibility of success from the beginning.

oh you'll love this RR, I bought Saviola, Palermo, Gareth Barry, Diesler, Ronaldinho, and Petri Pasanen. All for WAY over 10M, except Diesler and Ronaldinho which were bosmans. :) :D ;)

CM is a game that is easy to play, if you stick with a tactic that is effective.. And with teams like Liverpool, which have good reputation from the start, and have enough money, it is very easy..

sigh.
sigh.
sigh.
sigh.

PS. my next challenge is to take my team to the tops and gain 1 billion dollars. I did so with Luch, but now I am doing it with the team I created in an editor, called CM Explorer.. I edited city, the team, and am waiting for it to promote to the sec. division.. the Attractiveness of the city is 1, which is the LOWEST there is.. Now THAT'S a REAL challenge

sigh.

I thought Neutral said he was coming back? :rolleyes:

Well I just got the full version and started a new game with a team with no talent whatsoever!!!

Yep, that's right, Ajax Amsterdam. :D Sure they have Yakuba, van der Vaart, Chivu, Winters, Grim, van der Gun, Wamberto and Arveladze but they really aren't any good. :o

I signed Hofland, Kolder (Nimreitz!) and Taribo West.

West was free, Kolder is promising and Hofland is amazing!

I played every player on my team atleast twice in 4 preseason friendlies but decided that they didn't test the club.

I set up an Amsterdam tourney, invited Real Madrid, Olympiakos and some Dutch non-league team.

I beat Real Madrid in one semi-final, innit amazing? And in the other semi there was a shock result, the non-league team beat Oly 4-2.

There's one player I'm trying to sign, Saviola! I have 20 million which should be plenty.

And after Ajax (assuming everything goes well and I become a fairly decent manager) my goal is to take Barry Town to the CL and for them to win it aswell.

CM is truly brilliant!!! :)

Simonius -- now that IS a challenge; to take Barry Town to the CL and win it, that is. I am a big fan of Welsh football (I was, at least), and I wanted to take Aberystwyth (urrghh, even russian names are easier) to the heights.. But never tried..

Welsh league has SUCH small rating, that it will be VERY hard just to sign a quality player, let alone to gather up 11 quality ones and win the CL.. I will try to do something like that later, maybe with a team in a lower Welsh division.. but maybe with either Flexsys, Aberystwyth, or even Barry - to take control of Barry town is not the same as to take control of Manchester United..