http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040601/80/euyjx.html

RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) - Brazil striker Ronaldo says he is tired of people calling him fat.

Brazilian media have been speculating all year that the Real Madrid player had been putting on weight and on Monday national team coach Carlos Alberto Parreira denied the forward had been put on a special diet.

"It's always the same," Ronaldo told the Estado News Agency. "If I don't score goals, it's because I'm fat. If I score, it's because I've lost weight."

"My ideal weight is 88 kilos, I don't know how much I weigh at the moment and I don't really care."

"All I really want is to help the team against Argentina."

Brazil host Argentina in a World Cup qualifier in Belo Horizonte on Wednesday before travelling to Chile for another match on Sunday.

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jejejejeje
:p

He'll be as fat as Maradona (presently) in a couple of years.:(
:crazyboy:

hilarious. Good post.. thanks Northstar.

He should try the Atkins diet. Worked for me.

i agree with him... ppl blame him not scoring on him being fat.. even i did it once :p

If you think about it though it's the same with Wayne Rooney but to a lesser extent at the moment. Every club in the country the fans chant "you fat b*stard" :D and though I am a Liverpool fan and Wayne Rooney went to my school the fat is used as excuse when he doesn't do anything but I just believe because he's crap.

Anyway, in my opinion he needs to ignore them and just go about his normal training régime, to be honest this is none of our business and you've got to ask youreself is it really news worthy? Do we NEED to know this? No, sure we WANT to, but we don't need to, all we need to know if anything is how he performs on the field and we'll see that in 2 years at the next world cup where he could probably gain the golden boot. :mrpimp:

how much do u think he weighs (H)


i think 97 kg

Who cares how much he weighs or what people call him....at the end of the day it is he, and not those people, who is considered one of the World' s best right now if not the best. So, why bother with morons like us saying stuff?:crazyboy:

If I was Ronaldo I would just tell people straight up to f*ck off and shut the f*ck up :mrpimp:

Sure he put on some extra weight, but he is still a worldclass striker, one of the worldsbest if not arguably the best (not in my eyes since Thierry Henry is the best how I see it but maybe to someone else ;) )

Yeah that's exactly what I think, and with all the money he's got he can afford to brush these insults off straight away.

If you watch closely though, he's not actually fat, i'd say he's wider than others and is strong.

It's like anything though innit? If you do bad, people comment on your appearance etc etc! Always the same!

Like I said, if I had his money I wouldn't be bothered. And have you seen how fign his gf is?:D :mrpimp:

how can ppl critisize ronaldo??? when hes healthy he always scores. i dont get it.

Because he could be better than just world class... he could be the best player in the world again if he just lost some weight.

he's not fat, he built muscle, look at vieri, compare a picture of him from WC and now, he's huge, but it's mostly musle, same with ronaldo, he just looks fat cuz he's big and slow...lol

Originally posted by Delly
He should try the Atkins diet. Worked for me.

a low carb diet is not appropriate for athletes. And watch out, a few people have now died or required heart surgery while being on this diet.

I dont actually think he is fat anyways. The article is just a bit funny. Anyways there is no way someone that is not in shape could play 90 minutes of top class football. If anything the extra fat gives him a little more endurance energy :p

ronaldo speaks the truth.

who cares what his weight is. he's still productive and scoring goals and still the best striker in the world (in my opinion). as long as he's knocking in goals, it's fine with me. do they expect him to score everytime out?

Yeah, If Ronaldo wants to stuff his face with greasy foods, packed with saturated fat, then so be it. At the end of the day, he gets the job done.

Is he too tired to do a sit up or two? :confused:

He should be laughing not complaining.

He was the top scorer in one of the top leagues playing for one of the biggest and best teams in the world. He's loaded and could retire a happy (fat) man right now if he wished to.

Joke's on us, not him.

:f***:

i wouldn't call him fat...just a bit tubby (H)

maybe he should lose some of those fat pounds:dragan:

Ronaldo COULD lose weight, but if he says he's confortable, who are we to argue? His numbers sure dont disappoint, so why the big fuss?
He's right, I dont even care how much he weighs....as long as he scores against Argentina!

Originally posted by mufc_daddy
He should be laughing not complaining.

He was the top scorer in one of the top leagues playing for one of the biggest and best teams in the world. He's loaded and could retire a happy (fat) man right now if he wished to.

Joke's on us, not him.

:f***:

You are right :)

i wouldn't mind being as "fat" as him and being top scorer in la liga.
He's already a footballing legend anyway whatever he does now.

he is class,but looks overweight........................................ ..........................not as much as jardel though(where the hell did he go?):confused:

Don't you guys remember how he was before WC final 98? He was the greatest player in the world. He was the best. Even tough i love Thierry Henry i have to say pre WC98Final- Roanldo was better.

He is a worldclass striker, as soon as he puts in a below par performance, he is criticised. Same with any player. As soon as they don't have a good game, the press and fans start talking crap and insulting them. It will always be the same. You can't change peoples actions, whether you like them or not. Ronaldo isn't fat. Big boned maybe, but not fat. He is/was one of the fastest footballers in the world. Nobody really cares if he is pilling on the wieght, because at the end of the day, if he is still scoring goals, it doesn't matter in my opinion.

Originally posted by manutd4eva
He'll be as fat as Maradona (presently) in a couple of years.:(
:crazyboy:

yes you are right. he will be fat as Maradona when he retire from football.

People are so ingnorant these days. Btw, how did Maradona get so fat?No wonder he has heart problems, the fat is clogging up his arteries. Btw, that's a heart attack for the one's who dont know what im talking about.

if i weere ronaldo, i should tell the fans , can u do all this stepovers and nutmegs.

pre WC98 Ronaldo was better than any player today, and if he continued like that he wouldve become the greatest player of all time. Now, LOOKING fat, he's just ARGUABLY the best player in the world....
either way....
I think he's in good shape(H)

who gives a sh!t what he looks like, as long as he plays well no one should care

I don't really care, but it does dissapoint me that I can't see that many class plays Ronaldo used to make since he is too fat to play a whole game without getting so fatigued.:( I just wished he'd still be doing all the runs and stuff he used to do...:p

I don't know why he's complaining since he IS fat.

Fat or not he's still good, and people who say it's because he's fat that he's not performing are just a bunch of losers. His weight is certainly not holding him back, as he's still one of the fastest players in the world.

One of the fastest players in the world? Sure he was, but not anymore. In all the recent matches he has played in I've seen him outstripped by defenders. His speed isnt that necessary anyway - his dribbling and technique is enough to take him past defenders.

Originally posted by champdave
One of the fastest players in the world? Sure he was, but not anymore. In all the recent matches he has played in I've seen him outstripped by defenders. His speed isnt that necessary anyway - his dribbling and technique is enough to take him past defenders.

I haven't seen much of him in the last 3 or 4 months, but what I saw of him before he was still pretty fast to me. He's also still one of the best forwards in the game.

What annoys me is the fact that the people who call him fat, are stupid journalists, who weight more than him, and sit behind a desk eating donuts all day.:kader:

Gong - you haven't seen Ronaldo in the past 4 MONTHS and you dare to comment.He has put on weight and it IS HOLDING HIM BACK.It's holding him back a lot and you're pretty stupid if you can't figure that out.Sure ,he needs dribbling even more but what made him deadly was his speed.And let's make something clear:he hasn't slowed down ,but his weight keeps him from even trying to make fast runs more often.I've seen the last few matches of Real and Ronaldo has been very bad.He barely runs and his movement radius is not big enough for him to be the same old Ronaldo again.
Conclusion:don't post if you don't know what you're posting about.And clearly you don't know.

PSV - I call him fat and I'm not a journalist eating doughnuts ,I'm a 16 year-old who plays football every day and has the right to call him a fatass.

Originally posted by zka
Gong - you haven't seen Ronaldo in the past 4 MONTHS and you dare to comment.He has put on weight and it IS HOLDING HIM BACK.It's holding him back a lot and you're pretty stupid if you can't figure that out.Sure ,he needs dribbling even more but what made him deadly was his speed.And let's make something clear:he hasn't slowed down ,but his weight keeps him from even trying to make fast runs more often.I've seen the last few matches of Real and Ronaldo has been very bad.He barely runs and his movement radius is not big enough for him to be the same old Ronaldo again.
Conclusion:don't post if you don't know what you're posting about.And clearly you don't know.

That's why I said what I saw of him before, and I said he was still pretty fast to me.:rolleyes: :p

So relax.

Also, I never said I didn't see him at all during the past four months, I just haven't seen him play that much, and to me, he doesn't seem that much fatter than he was at the start of the season.

Originally posted by manutd4eva
That's why I said what I saw of him before, and I said he was still pretty fast to me.:rolleyes: :p

So relax.

No ,no ,no.
You said people who say Ronaldo underperforms because of weight are losers.Therefore you called me a loser.
I'm a loser who actually saw fatass play recently.

Originally posted by zka
No ,no ,no.
You said people who say Ronaldo underperforms because of weight are losers.Therefore you called me a loser.
I'm a loser who actually saw fatass play recently.

Yes, he's fat, but he still was the leading goal scorer in the La Liga for the past season, even after the injury problems he's had.

I wouldn't really call that underperforming, he's just a fatass who scores lots of goals and torments defenders with skill and pace.

exactly. yea he may have put on some pounds and as a result, he's probably lost some pace (especially with all the surgery he's had on his knees), but he's still quick as hell with the ball. he hasn't lost his quickness.

Originally posted by santino
he's not fat, he built muscle, look at vieri, compare a picture of him from WC and now, he's huge, but it's mostly musle, same with ronaldo, he just looks fat cuz he's big and slow...lol
Ronaldo isnt exactly slow. I doubt any defender can keep up with him if he decides to take it seriously.

you guys dont get it. yeah he scores goals but if he loses weight and goes back to how he played pre wc98 he can become the greatest player OF ALL TIME f*cking unstoppable.

Well he scored 3 pks against Argentina

he is still the best
but the truth is that he needs to lose a couple of pounds

Originally posted by jacaré
you guys dont get it. yeah he scores goals but if he loses weight and goes back to how he played pre wc98 he can become the greatest player OF ALL TIME f*cking unstoppable.

i don't agree. with all the surgeries he had on his knees, i don't think he would have been as explosive as he was pre '98. yea he looks like he's healed from his injuries and surgeries, but it'll take more than losing a few pounds to go back to his pre '98 self.

I agree. His doesnt have enough time on his side to get back to the way he was. He'll be 28 soon.

He's still the best finisher and one of my favourite all time players. I'm glad i grew up in the era that he was playing.

All those bashing him for his weight, should've seen him play vs Argentina tonight. He was awesome, he won three penalties with his pace and skill. Even after 90 minutes he could still outrun defenders.

thats right....he actually scored 4 goals, but one pk was disallowed....he AGAIN silenced his critics....
Ronaldo will never be what he was before 98 because of those 2 MAJOR surgeries (its a miracle what he can do NOW), so he will adapt himself to be the best in some other way

"PSV - I call him fat and I'm not a journalist eating doughnuts ,I'm a 16 year-old who plays football every day and has the right to call him a fatass."

zka you have no right to say squat. Are you playing pro at the age of sixteen? Cuz he was. Can you play as well as he can even though he's had 3 major knee surgeries? NO

none of us have any right to criticize how a player is doing, they owe nothing to us, they are people getting paid to do a job. Get a life

Yeah he could lose some weight, and possibly have a little more stamina to help with the all round games of his team mates, and i would love to see him back to his consistent explosion of greatness, but the fact is he doesnt need to, he has evolved into a great centre forward who just finishes off the good work of his team mates, his movement and finishing is... well is the best in the world, and his close control is awsome, if real madrid and Brazil werent as inventive then maybe he would need to lose weight but they play for him so why should he lose weight

Ronaldo won't be the same as he was before World Cup 98 because of the obvious reason that both of his knees have been operated on, and knowing from friends who have had knee-surgery and aren't even able to play competetive sports anymore, he's lucky to be in the shape he is now.

And if you think about it, since WC '98, it's been 6 years. He's gotten older. A 17 year old Ronaldo is obviously going to be faster than a 23 year old Ronaldo (or however old he is now).

Ronaldo isnt as good as he was b4 hes knee problems. He was god back then in field, now hes just one of best strikers with few others. Also ronaldo is 28 now i think, he was 18 at WC 94, 22 at 98 and 28 now.

Ronaldo was the best player in the world before first knee injury. Sad, the guy could have done great things if was more lucky

Originally posted by mixafendis
Ronaldo was the best player in the world before first knee injury. Sad, the guy could have done great things if was more lucky
He still is when he wants. Well, he's good enough to embarass Argentina by himself (sorry argentinian mates, but i'll rub it in(H) )

I dont mean he is bad, he is still a top class player. Just not as good as we were all expecting him to be about 5-6 years ago. Blame his injuries for that

I get where you come from. I think he could lose more weight, but anyway, he's arguably the best player in the world.

like felipao said 2 years ago
Ronaldo is 80% of the player he used to be, but is still the best player in the planet.

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
but is still the best player in the planet.

No.

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Futebol/Eliminatórias - (03/06/2004 01:08:52)
Ronaldo se irrita com provocação de argentino
Do correspondente Alex Capella

Belo Horizonte (MG) - O atacante Ronaldo, que tenta se esquivar da polêmica sobre o suposto excesso de peso desde quando chegou a capital mineira, acabou se irritando com uma provocação de um repórter argentino, na saída do Mineirão, após a vitória da seleção brasileira, por 3 a 1, sobre a Argentina, na noite desta quarta-feira, pelas Eliminatórias da Copa Mundo.
Antes que embarcasse no ônibus, o jornalista tentou entregar ao Fenômeno um livro sobre dietas. O clima esquentou e o jornalista brincalhão teve de ser retirado pelos seguranças. O técnico da seleção, Carlos Alberto Parreira, tentou minimizar a polêmica envolvendo o peso do jogador.

'O Ronaldo é o melhor atacante do futebol mundial. Somente alguns críticos brasileiros insistem em não enxergar isso. Porém, a cada jogo, ele mostra porque é o melhor', disse o treinador.

http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/ge_noticias/bin/noticia.php?chid=130&nwid=5648
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Stupid reporter
:kader: :kader: :kader:

Ronaldo is the best international player you have seen to date. Besides dominating in the WCs he's played when he's ready he's performs better than anyone else in the international level.
He lacks motivation in Madrid.

Ronaldo has won two world cups and been to the final three times....he is definitely a legend but right now not the best...definitely top 3 along with Ronaldinho and Thierry Henry:hump:

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida

He lacks motivation in Madrid.

and yet, hes still scoring goals like crazy...

i havent actually watched him in awhile, but numbers dont lie.

Originally posted by chatterbox
Ronaldo has won two world cups and been to the final three times....he is definitely a legend but right now not the best...definitely top 3 along with Ronaldinho and Thierry Henry:hump:

Legend?
Yes ,of course.

Top three?
No way.Ronaldinho ,Henry ,Zidane are the top three.Plus there are others who would outclass Ronaldo at the moment.
Ronaldo would certainly fit in the top 10 easily ,but that's it.
He is not what he used to be.

He is not fat i bet the avarage person the same age as ronaldo weighs more than him people are just saying it because hes not performing as he used too so what hes still better than you! Dont take the P!$$ out of him untill your better then he is!!

He has lost weigh since he's training with the Brazilian NT.. that shows how this season has been in Madrid. All the year saying that he is not fat and when he joins the NT he loses weight, haha. Almost all the brazilian players only do sacrifices for the NT.

Originally posted by burberry2003boy
He is not fat i bet the avarage person the same age as ronaldo weighs more than him people are just saying it because hes not performing as he used too so what hes still better than you! Dont take the P!$$ out of him untill your better then he is!!

He is fat.

Well Gong why did he get the place at madrid and not you? if u can call him you must be a superstar i just can not understand it really i'll get in touch with madrid and tell them tht i got a skinny ronaldo ok?

He might not be the same player he used to be in the past but he is still good enough to score more goals than any Barcelona player in the past 2 years. Not bad for a fat guy.

I have only one thing to say OINK OINK :dragan: :lui: :brow:

Originally posted by Vinnie Jones
He might not be the same player he used to be in the past but he is still good enough to score more goals than any Barcelona player in the past 2 years. Not bad for a fat guy. He's better than Kluivert, congrats. Good comparison. :mrpimp:

Not only Kluivert, everyone. Im talking goal wise.

Originally posted by manutd4eva
He is fat.


This is not fat...

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XVC114060222_1024x768.jpg

He's not fat otherwise he couldn't throw himself to the ground.

He's only considered fat because he is a footballer- if he were to go and play rugby no one would say anything. It basically comes down do him being what would generally be considered as the wrong build for the game, i.e. he is naturally bulkier and heavier built. There is the general misconception though that this makes him fat when in fact this is utter bullsh!t. The fact that he is strongly built is emphasised by the fact that most other footballers are much lighter in their build. The fact is that any amount of dieting or any increase in exercising he does is not going to help. Being the build he is will help him in many ways though because he will naturally be stronger than most other players of lighter build and will probably be able withstand injury better too. Believe me on this because I know from my own personal experience. ;)

Originally posted by zka
Legend?
Yes ,of course.

Top three?
No way.Ronaldinho ,Henry ,Zidane are the top three.Plus there are others who would outclass Ronaldo at the moment.
Ronaldo would certainly fit in the top 10 easily ,but that's it.
He is not what he used to be.
He's not what he used to be, but he's still top three. Zidane has done jack **** this year plus he got sent off sometimes. Real Madrid without Ronaldo lost almost all their games, and Zidane was playing a lot of them.

Originally posted by Dream Team
He's better than Kluivert, congrats. Good comparison. :mrpimp:
Except for Ronaldinho, which is up to par with Ronaldo, R9 is better than anyone at Barça atm. And no matter who you sign, it'll be the same, unless you sign Henry.

Ronaldo is hardly as useful as Zizou.

Who cares, Ronaldo is still very fast and one of the best strikers.

Look at his countryman Ailton, that guy is fat, but he's fast as hell. :D

http://www.football-rumours.com/images/ailton.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,282680,00.jpg

The fact that people are obsessed with his weight is silly. He scores mad goals. What's the problem?

Originally posted by Grunger0x
Except for Ronaldinho, which is up to par with Ronaldo, R9 is better than anyone at Barça atm. And no matter who you sign, it'll be the same, unless you sign Henry. I think Ronaldo is the third best player in the world.

Some people confuses the word fat with bad player. It's not the same. Look any photo, if you are not blind you must see that he is fat. And in the trainings with real madrid, when they should run much time, he had to stop several times because he couldn't. But I'm not saying he is a bad player when I say he is fat.

That argue of the goals to say that he's not fat is just stupid. When somebody is fat it's because he has excess of weight. I personally use my eyes to judge that and I don't need the statistics of goals... The relation "+goals=thin, -goals=fat" is very stupid.


I've said what everybody thinks, madrid supporters included, but some people takes the argue like an insult because I'm Barça supporter. Anyway, in this forum I think I've defended Ronaldo more than anybody.


In Spain now he is a "noodle" since he has lost weigh with his NT, because compared with the Ronaldo of real madrid..

Ronaldo is just big boned.

lol Rivaldo is so not fat

TROD.

He's not fat otherwise he couldn't throw himself to the ground.
did I just read a portuguese complain that Ronaldo dives?:kader:
The nerve.....fernandez - VOCE E PORTUGUES!

And I agree that Ronaldo is top 3 in the world. Ronaldinho then Henry and Ronaldo close to each other. At club level, its Ronaldinho, Henry then Ronaldo.
At international level its Ronaldo, Henry, Ronaldinho

Zidane hasnt doen anything all year for either. Madrid went on a winning streak when he was injured, then he comes back, Ronaldo gets injured and Madrid loses everything Ronaldo scored 24 goals for.

I don't mind whether a striker is fat or skinny, young or old, fast or slow as long as they just complete their job which is to score goals.


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Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
did I just read a portuguese complain that Ronaldo dives?:kader:
The nerve.....fernandez - VOCE E PORTUGUES!


Firstly, I'm not Portuguese. Secondly, I was referring to the penalty that was awarded in injury time. I did not call him a diver otherwise I would get pelted by the same comment. Good day.
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In my opinion Figo is fatter than Ronaldo. Especially when you look at Figo's face.

But you have no idea who's really fat, goalkeeper Verhoeven from Volendam.:p

http://www.vi.nl/assets_tracker/kolom_a/jeroen_verhoeven01_17024.jpg

http://hpbimg.goldenluck.info/jeroen_verhoeven01.jpg

http://www.fotoleovogelzang.nl/500px/May2004/Persie%20van%20Robin%20250404-05.jpg

Isn´t Carlos Alberto brazillian? I rest my case.

Vinnie Jones


I love you, man. I'm soooo happy to be in the same thread as you:rockman:

I love you too bricktop

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
did I just read a portuguese complain that Ronaldo dives?:kader:
The nerve.....fernandez - VOCE E PORTUGUES!

Seems like someone has missed every single Brazilian League match this season... There's a reason the Argentine clubs are kicking the crap out of Brazilian teams in Copa Libertadores. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Dream Team
I think Ronaldo is the third best player in the world.

Some people confuses the word fat with bad player. It's not the same. Look any photo, if you are not blind you must see that he is fat. And in the trainings with real madrid, when they should run much time, he had to stop several times because he couldn't. But I'm not saying he is a bad player when I say he is fat.

That argue of the goals to say that he's not fat is just stupid. When somebody is fat it's because he has excess of weight. I personally use my eyes to judge that and I don't need the statistics of goals... The relation "+goals=thin, -goals=fat" is very stupid.


I've said what everybody thinks, madrid supporters included, but some people takes the argue like an insult because I'm Barça supporter. Anyway, in this forum I think I've defended Ronaldo more than anybody.


In Spain now he is a "noodle" since he has lost weigh with his NT, because compared with the Ronaldo of real madrid..
I didnt say he's not fat. In one of my posts you could see i said he could lose some weight. Ok, he's not fat, but he's a little bit off his ideal weight. Hopefully in pre-season he'll get a little thiner.

Originally posted by Aveirenses
Seems like someone has missed every single Brazilian League match this season... There's a reason the Argentine clubs are kicking the crap out of Brazilian teams in Copa Libertadores. :rolleyes:
Shows how much you watch Libertadores.:rolleyes: Argentinians dive as much as we do, and they provoke even more (people call it "catimba" around here). Just some facts for you too:
Libertadores 2000, Palmeiras vs Boca:
Referee gave a non-existent penalty at La Bombonera, Palmeiras were 2-1 up (ask anyone, including non-biased Argentinians and they'll say it wasnt a penalty)
Libertadores 2001, Palmeiras vs Boca
This time at the Semis, the referee was so bad that 2 or 3 individuals entered the pitch to beat him.

That takes 2 titles from the Argentinians already. Plus this year São Paulo eliminated Rosário Central, and São Caetano eliminated Independiente. The only team eliminated by Argentinians was also São Caetano, on penalties and AT Argentina. So it's 2-1 for Brazilians vs Argentinians at Libertadores this year, so, i wouldnt say they're kicking the crap out of Brazilian Clubs.

And it has nothing to do with diving. If divers lost every match, Porto wouldnt be UEFA Cup champions last season and CL champions this season. (pissed off? I dont mean it seriously, it's just to show how stupid that comment was.)

Brazilians dont dive. Theyve never been known to, and never will.
(except Rivaldo, but that was different)

RVN dives
Cristiano does some diving
Porto's team is shaddy
Totti got a red card for diving

If anything Brazilians are keep getting fouled cuz they keep blowing by the opposition

Originally posted by Grunger0x
Shows how much you watch Libertadores.:rolleyes: Argentinians dive as much as we do, and they provoke even more (people call it "catimba" around here). Just some facts for you too:
Libertadores 2000, Palmeiras vs Boca:
Referee gave a non-existent penalty at La Bombonera, Palmeiras were 2-1 up (ask anyone, including non-biased Argentinians and they'll say it wasnt a penalty)
Libertadores 2001, Palmeiras vs Boca
This time at the Semis, the referee was so bad that 2 or 3 individuals entered the pitch to beat him.

That takes 2 titles from the Argentinians already. Plus this year São Paulo eliminated Rosário Central, and São Caetano eliminated Independiente. The only team eliminated by Argentinians was also São Caetano, on penalties and AT Argentina. So it's 2-1 for Brazilians vs Argentinians at Libertadores this year, so, i wouldnt say they're kicking the crap out of Brazilian Clubs.

And it has nothing to do with diving. If divers lost every match, Porto wouldnt be UEFA Cup champions last season and CL champions this season. (pissed off? I dont mean it seriously, it's just to show how stupid that comment was.)


Don't bitch just because we have better club teams than you. :D

Brazilians do dive. Not all, but quite a few. Don't kid yourself. Tell me the third penalty wasn't a dive.:rolleyes:

I am not saying Argentines don't dive. Both of us do. (H)

I said we both dive. The guy above me said we dont dive, i guess you're replying to him. And the 3rd penalty was a dive, but anyway, Samuel took Ronaldo's shirt off inside the area plus that handball, so that's all good.(H)

They were just getting to know eachother since they are playing for Madrid next year. The Ref knew that :p (H)

Looks like they get along pretty well.(H)

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
Brazilians dont dive. Theyve never been known to, and never will.
(except Rivaldo, but that was different)

RVN dives
Cristiano does some diving
Porto's team is shaddy
Totti got a red card for diving

If anything Brazilians are keep getting fouled cuz they keep blowing by the opposition

What do you call Ronaldo's third penalty? Self-preservation? Carlos Alberto is Brazilian.

Originally posted by Fernandez
What do you call Ronaldo's third penalty? Self-preservation?
Pires has an answer for this question.(H)