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kobashi
04-06-2004, 09:41:PM
Israel wants Iraq to pay compensation

uploaded 03 Jun 2004


Israel looks set to pursue a compensation claim on behalf of Jews who left Iraq over 50 years ago, despite no such similar consideration for Palestinian refugees.


Tel Aviv has sent copies of over 800 documents to Washington, not Baghdad, in a bid to claim compensation for Israeli citizens who "were forced to abandon their property".

A diaspora affairs ministry spokeswoman told Aljazeera.net on Tuesday that records have already been sent to the US State Department.

Comprising "a partial list of Jewish properties as well as hundreds of marriage and death certificates from between 1949 and 2001", the papers were found by US-led occupation forces in Baghdad.

They had been water-damaged and were difficult to decipher. Nevertheless, spokeswoman Rivka Kanarek said the documents "contribute to an evaluation of properties" in Baghdad.

Sudden emigration

Iraq's minister for reconstruction and planning, Bayan Sulagh, said on 31 March that Jews who left en masse "after coming under massive pressure in the wake of Israel's creation" would be entitled to reclaim their property.

"Everyone knows there used to be Jews in Iraq and they owned property. Under the law, every Iraqi has the right to reclaim what belongs to them."


There are less than two dozen Jews
left in Baghdad today

But any compensation claim will necessarily have to look into the causes of the mass emigration.

Why would a community of 120,000, settled for over 2000 years in Baghdad, suddenly abandon their homes?

The Jewish community was well integrated into Iraqi society, and generally prosperous. Yet during 1950 and 1951, more than 95% of the Jewish population left Iraq for Israel via airlifts known as Operation Ezra and Nehemiah.

Historically accurate?

But historians are now questioning the traditional Zionist explanation for the exodus.

Speaking at a Jewish Studies Conference in Australia earlier this year, historian Philip Mendes of Latrobe University dismissed as simplistic the Israeli claim that the exodus was a response to a long history of persecution.

He contends that the exodus from Iraq can also be attributed to numerous other factors, such as the prominent and popular identification of Jews with Communism and a British-Iraqi fear of political domination by the Soviet Union.

Nevertheless, Tel Aviv will continue to push for compensation over an exodus it may have partially helped to engineer while refusing to even consider financial compensation for the Palestinians who have been refugees for over half a century.

No disapora affairs ministry official was prepared to comment on the apparent paradox.


Source: Aljazeera + Agencies

Lee86
04-06-2004, 10:52:PM
please somebody stop me before i start bashing Israel!! do they want to rule the word? and what else! everywhere i look i can see Holocaus memoriams...damn.. i admit they suffered a lot, and i feel sad for the families who had relatives lost in Aushwitz and elsewhere in Nazi camps but hey? don't they realise the are more or less doing the same with those poor Palestinians?
for God's (?) sake: why there is not justice on earth???:(

ui.:anyway.. i'm afraid this thread is gonna be closed because saying something which is not too advantageous toward Israel must be condamned, coz it's sure some kind of antisemitism.. always...:(

Hristos
04-06-2004, 11:20:PM
Everybody loses out in life. If you can name one group of people that hasn't been ****ed over at least once, I'd like to know who it is.

They should just shut up and move on. This goes not just for Jews, but for everybody.

Shiryu
05-06-2004, 01:38:AM
Care?

Enough. ok.

Elder
05-06-2004, 03:41:AM
Originally posted by Lee86
please somebody stop me before i start bashing Israel!! do they want to rule the word? and what else! everywhere i look i can see Holocaus memoriams...damn.. i admit they suffered a lot, and i feel sad for the families who had relatives lost in Aushwitz and elsewhere in Nazi camps but hey? don't they realise the are more or less doing the same with those poor Palestinians?
for God's (?) sake: why there is not justice on earth???:(

ui.:anyway.. i'm afraid this thread is gonna be closed because saying something which is not too advantageous toward Israel must be condamned, coz it's sure some kind of antisemitism.. always...:(

Show me the ovens, concentration camps and gas chambers, and I will agree that Israel is doing the same what was doen to Jews during WWII to the Palestinians.

It's stupid ****ign comments like this that make me want to puke. Israel wants money, who cares. Everyone wants money.

shokz
05-06-2004, 04:41:AM
I farted, and I hope you like, it is nice.... I like.
http://www.troligt.com/puremagic/img/borat.jpg

Bobby
05-06-2004, 04:49:AM
Ben farted

shokz
05-06-2004, 04:54:AM
Bobby farted

Bobby
05-06-2004, 06:02:AM
Shimizu S-Pulse v Oita Trinita!

Krypton X
05-06-2004, 08:21:AM
Originally posted by shokz
I farted, and I hope you like, it is nice.... I like.

It's kind of ironic Shokz but Borat's/Ali G's/Sacha Baron Cohen's mum is one of those Iraqi Jews who fled Iraq in the 1950's.

Anyway, if i was Iraq i'd tell the Israelis to bugger off and refuse to look into their claims until they'd forward their case to an international court or tribunal.

Apart from opening the door to getting their ass sued for mistreating Palestinians and shrugging off like half a million UN resolutions, it would probably all end up in Israel having to compensate its own citizens for some of these damages.

The fact is that even though Iraq did encourage the mass exodus of its fairly sizable Jewish community, and left them out in the cold by confiscating all their properties and assets, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that both the British and Israeli governments were in on this as well. If anyone's interested they might want to have a read of this (http://middleeastinfo.org/article2595.html).


Both the regent Abd al-Ilah and his prime minister Nouri el- Said took directions from London. Toward the end of 1948, el-Said, who had already met with Israel's Prime Minister Ben Gurion in Vienna, began discussing with his Iraqi and British associates the need for an exchange of populations. Iraq would send the Jews in military trucks to Israel via Jordan, and Iraq would take in some of the Palestinians Israel had been evicting. His proposal included mutual confiscation of property. London nixed the idea as too radical. El-Said then went to his back-up plan and began to create the conditions that would make the lives of Iraqi Jews so miserable they would leave for Israel. Jewish government employees were fired from their jobs; Jewish merchants were denied import/export licenses; police began to arrest Jews for trivial reasons. Still the Jews did not leave in any great numbers.

In September 1949, Israel sent the spy Mordechai Ben-Porat, the one mentioned in Venom of the Zionist Viper, to Iraq. One of the first things Ben-Porat did was to approach el-Said and promise him financial incentives to have a law enacted that would lift the citizenship of Iraqi Jews.

Soon after, Zionist and Iraqi representatives began formulating a rough draft of the bill, according to the model dictated by Israel through its agents in Baghdad. The bill was passed by the Iraqi parliament in March 1950. It empowered the government to issue one-time exit visas to Jews wishing to leave the country. In March, the bombings began.

Sixteen years later, the Israeli magazine Haolam Hazeh, published by Uri Avnery, then a Knesset member, accused Ben-Porat of the Baghdad bombings. Ben-Porat, who would become a Knesset member himself, denied the charge, but never sued the magazine for libel. And Iraqi Jews in Israel still call him Morad Abu al-Knabel, Mordechai of the Bombs.

Aveirenses
05-06-2004, 08:55:AM
Why didn't Israel just put out a huge sign on its borders asking to get attacked?

kickin_kyle
05-06-2004, 09:41:AM
someone tell Israel to shut the f**k up and stop whinning

Elder
05-06-2004, 10:42:AM
Originally posted by kickin_kyle
someone tell Israel to shut the f**k up and stop whinning

I dont' think it's Israel that does mot of the whining... it's the whiny bitchy moany arabs who kept getting their asses kicked in wars by a handful of jews.

Jambo Den
05-06-2004, 10:43:AM
:(

Bobby
05-06-2004, 10:46:AM
:)

Awax
05-06-2004, 12:45:PM
Originally posted by Elder
I dont' think it's Israel that does mot of the whining... it's the whiny bitchy moany arabs who kept getting their asses kicked in wars by a handful of jews.

wassup with you ? didnt know u loved shokz's fart.

Originally posted by Bobby
Shimizu S-Pulse v Oita Trinita!

oh yea!

Zidane420
06-06-2004, 12:00:AM
"Everybody loses out in life. If you can name one group of people that hasn't been ****ed over at least once, I'd like to know who it is."


Um lets see, WASPS(White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestants) have never really been ****ed over by anyone. They have never felt real struggle.

Elder
06-06-2004, 02:12:AM
Originally posted by Zidane420
"Everybody loses out in life. If you can name one group of people that hasn't been ****ed over at least once, I'd like to know who it is."


Um lets see, WASPS(White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestants) have never really been ****ed over by anyone. They have never felt real struggle.

Yeah... ok... everyone wants to be a sob story. Just shut up already and move on with your life.

Glorious
06-06-2004, 12:14:PM
Originally posted by shokz
I farted, and I hope you like, it is nice.... I like.
http://www.troligt.com/puremagic/img/borat.jpg


now that is funny! :D borat rocks :D so does Ali G :D

Israel have a few screws loose i think :rolleyes: