After what England did against France i really cant make a prediction.
What about you guys....

Ass whipping for the Swiss.

4-0 England.

Gary Neville
Gary Neville
Gary Neville
Gary Neville

Swiss ain't pushover, England have to win this match, if they lose they are out.

I think 2-1 to England

Rooney
Lampard

Yakin

1-0 to England.

This is kind of a wish, I really dunno if England can beat the Swiss, they didn't convince me at all vs France and I'm not talking about injury time either. The whole game they seemed quite unimpressive. I'm just hoping Roonaldo can pull out a winner for us. :clapwap:

Yeh if England dont get any result from this, then they might aswell pack their bags.

I think the result will be 2-0 Victory

Owen x 2

Originally posted by Leeds4Life
1-0 to England.

This is kind of a wish, I really dunno if England can beat the Swiss, they didn't convince me at all vs France and I'm not talking about injury time either. The whole game they seemed quite unimpressive. I'm just hoping Roonaldo can pull out a winner for us. :clapwap:

I thought we we're Brill against the French. A few passes went astray and out of bounds. We just couldn't keep the ball much in the second half but we did play agaist a very good French team. When we got the ball we used it well. Just made a mess of it with the Pen and stupid subs.

Oh and Andrew haven't you heard, Scholes out for this game. :(

Oh ****, i forgot,

Ill swap him with Owen then

I reckon 3-0. England need the result and I think they will be at their best to get it.

3-0 to England

i predict England's win but this match will not be easy at all.

Eriksson expects Scholes to play (http://www.football365.co.uk/news/story_114467.shtml)

Terry Set For England Return (http://www.football365.co.uk/news/story_114324.shtml)

God King does a great job but Terry gets the nod. WTF

Lol most neutrals seem to be predicting high scorelines for engalnd to win.

wouldn't be surprised if it was only 1-0 or even a draw.

mmm confidence is high IC :rolleyes:

Tough to call, on the one hand, there is Stevie G. On the other, Stephane Henchoz.

I'm Czech this month by the way.

I feel we will just have a bit too much anger to take out and i think the swiss will be lucky to get anything out of this...............that said i know it wont be easy but we have to prove our worth in this tourne and i think we will 3-1 to england!!!!:D

I'm predicting a 3-1 win for England.

3-1 England : Owen, Rooney, Beckham.:rockman:

The swiss are no pushovers, they have a good GK and a nice little attack.

my england side

James; G Neville - Campbell - King - Cole; Beckham - Gerrard - Lampard - Bridge; Vassell - Rooney


2-1 England, though it should be tight.

Originally posted by Bobby

James; G Neville - Campbell - King - Cole; Beckham - Gerrard - Lampard - Bridge; Vassell - Rooney

yeap that would be the fair team to put out...
But Terry seams guaranteed a place. Maybe Sven wants to see what he can do. Then for the last game v Croatia decide which one has done better i suppose him or King.

As for Vassell up front, he seems to do well when he comes on for England ... I don't think Owen will be dropped, he should be given a chance to redeam himself, but if he doesn't he'll lose his place.

anyway i'm only saying things we already know :p

I'd normally go with Terry, but King was excellent

0-0.

2-0 to england
lampard and owen to score

4-0 to england :D lampard x2,owen,beckham, hopefully scholes will be fit to play otherwise id put bridge there or maybe dyer

1-1 ....last minute equaliser by some random Swiss dude (H)

an own goal

James will be out in the midfield somewhere, and Neville will back pass, James won't catch up to it.

EMILE Heskey has promised to prove his critics wrong and help England recover from their demoralising start to Euro 2004.

Heskey came under fire following England's defeat against France on Sunday, after his foul on Patrick Vieira allowed Zinedine Zidane to equalise with a stunning free-kick.

Manager Sven Goran Eriksson was also criticised for putting on Heskey in the first place, and taking off Wayne Rooney. But Heskey said: "I have always got a lot of criticism but I am confident and I don't let it get to me.

"There are times when my contribution can be overlooked and I would get praise if I scored more but played worse.


:rofl:

he's a striker. he's bound to be judged on the number of goals he scored.

thing is Heskey comes undefire in every England game os hes crap and shouldnt be anywhere near the team! :D

Originally posted by Bobby
The swiss are no pushovers, they have a good GK

:rofl:

anyway, I think England will win it 2-0

Originally posted by Bobby
an own goal

James will be out in the midfield somewhere, and Neville will back pass, James won't catch up to it. Jörg Stiel could :gavin:

England will win this for sure.

2-0 to england..

owen will be back by scoring two goals!!!!

Swiss 2-1 England

1´ owen
90+4´ Hakan Yakin
90+5´ Ledley King (og)

Originally posted by OnE_UnITED
Swiss 2-1 England

1´ owen
90+4´ Hakan Yakin
90+5´ Ledley King (og)
prepare for the worst...
then you'll never be disapointed :D

Start Cole and Dyer, damnit!

2-2


For some reason, I like Switzerland's chances in this one.

Stick to a 4-4-2 and the same midfield that played against France and we should win. Sepp Blatter's boys are no push-overs though.

Play the exact same team we played against the Frogs and we'll be fine.

[IMGhttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40278000/gif/_40278361_team_pre_eng_switz2.gif[/IMG]

1-0 England.

I reckon that we could get a win outta this.. so im gonna say:

England 2-1 Switzerland

But, and this being a very big but, we will be loosing 0-1 at Half Time.. I think that the swiss are a very good team (on their day [may i being so kind to add;) ]) but they don't have the same ammount of depth as England have... not saying that we have any:p

But when we gave away two goals, too the French, in injury time this is the only smiley that can describe my reaction: :f***:

C'mon England!(H)

england 3-0 switzerland
owen x2
rooney

England 1-0
Gerrard

2-1 England--- Beckham (fk), Yakin and Rooney (90+2) :p

Switzerland will win and send the english home. Maybe we will have some peace in Albufeira...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Punkt
Switzerland will win and send the english home. Maybe we will have some peace in Albufeira...:rolleyes:
dont talk too soon, it seems that portugal wont be lasting long anyways

england should win this easily.

Originally posted by Eng4WorldCup
dont talk too soon, it seems that portugal wont be lasting long anyways

that is your opinion... and i expressed my opinion. a prediction of a result is made before the game so i didn't talk soon or later... :rolleyes:

2-0 england

Svens toughest test (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/nec/-/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/england/3808127.stm)

Scholes fitness boost (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/england/3787999.stm)


I'm going for a 3-1 win for us.

Owen, Rooney and Heskey to redeem himself later on in the second half -:rolleyes:

Yakin for the Swiss.

C'mon lads!!!!!! :rockman:

Switzerland 2 - 1 England


Go the Swiss. (H)

Originally posted by Punkt
Switzerland will win and send the english home. Maybe we will have some peace in Albufeira...:rolleyes:

Punkt why do you always moan man..........as a matter of fact Germans,russians and portuguese were also arrested in Albufeira........so state the full facts or dont bother mate.......

David Seaman should have come out of retirement to rescue England.

He could have scored that pen, never missed from the spot.

No doubt he'd find the net in this match.

1-0 swiss. I think it's going to be another game resulting to a shocking result. I don't know if england can recuperate from that devastating loss to france and having all that pressure on them to win, but then again i could be wrong.

Originally posted by Bobby
David Seaman should have come out of retirement to rescue England.

He could have scored that pen, never missed from the spot.

No doubt he'd find the net in this match.
actually ur wrong

i think it was 94 charity shield, pens got to the 11th men - seaman missed and schmeichl scored

Roy Keane phone call to Davy Becks after the France match.:D

http://69.9.37.162/dry-your-eyes-becks.mp3

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Lol

Thats gold.

:crazyboy:

Originally posted by shy_guy329
england should win this easily.
Thats the thing about England. Too bloody unpredictable:o

England 2-0 Switzerland
Beckham (pen:crazyboy: )
Owen

I dont really think Becks will be taking another penalty this tournament. No offence to him

He always shoots to the left. Santini noticed and Barthez' save wasnt really THAT good as he knew that Beckham was going left.

Anyhow, I have put down a 1-1 draw with Switzerland, but Croatia to get a result against France which throws the England - Croatia game into a decider for second spot. Owen to score a stonker too (H)

England will win this one.

Originally posted by PornStar
Switzerland 2 - 1 England


Go the Swiss. (H)

hmm Australian hey. Enough said. :rolleyes:

I can't really see England losing this one.. They will be out there to redeem themselves from the France match and they know that they must win to have a chance of getting to the quarters

with scholes back,i can't see england getting less han a win!!!
go england.
i hope for a thumping of the swiss and thereby england increase the goal difference.
just hope scholes can score.
it looks like the never ending story

i see a 3-0 scoreline for england..

Have a feeling Rooney and Owen will be on the scoreline

hate that everton trash. (H)

'That everton trash' will no doubt make an impact in the match. England will won this. Rooney and Scholes(if he plays).

England were the favourites to win this game a long time ago, but looking back on the first matches England played a very good opening match and the Swiss didn't impress against Croatia.

So I think it all comes down to psychological matters, England must be fired up but not panic if they don't score during the first half.

Originally posted by I@n S
hmm Australian hey. Enough said. :rolleyes:

Don't see it as a prediction...just wishful thinking ;)

Lets hope the Switzerland defense is like Swiss Cheese.

That way players like Scholes, Lampard and Rooney can run through and put England on their way (H)

Scholes Ready For Swiss Battle (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=71705&itype=466&icategoryid=120)

Paul Scholes looks to have won his race to be fit for England's crucial Group B match against Switzerland on Thursday.

Scholes suffered a twisted ankle in the 2-1 defeat to France on Sunday, and Sven Goran Eriksson rated him as having only a 50/50 chance of making England's second game of the tournament after he missed training on Monday and Tuesday.

But the 29-year-old midfielder came through Wednesday's session unscathed and is now ready to take his place in the starting eleven against the Swiss on Thursday.

Speaking at a news conference in Coimbra, Sven-Goran Eriksson said of Scholes' progress: "He will be fit for the game. He did everything in training on Wednesday and will be okay for the match. It is very good news for us."

Gary Neville also picked up a knock in England's first match but is still set to start against Switzerland.

Eriksson admitted he has to pick his squad up after the disappointment of losing in such devastating fashion against the French.

"It's difficult to understand why we lost the game," he said. "I can remember only two other games that finished in such a way; Manchester United's game against Bayern Munich, and the Italy-France match in Euro 2000."

Report by Ben Hibbs and Gemma Thompson.

Yeah put England on their way. :D

I'll be behind the red and white all the way.

Go England! :rockman:

Originally posted by Fernandez
Scholes Ready For Swiss Battle (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=71705&itype=466&icategoryid=120)

Paul Scholes looks to have won his race to be fit for England's crucial Group B match against Switzerland on Thursday.

Scholes suffered a twisted ankle in the 2-1 defeat to France on Sunday, and Sven Goran Eriksson rated him as having only a 50/50 chance of making England's second game of the tournament after he missed training on Monday and Tuesday.

But the 29-year-old midfielder came through Wednesday's session unscathed and is now ready to take his place in the starting eleven against the Swiss on Thursday.

Speaking at a news conference in Coimbra, Sven-Goran Eriksson said of Scholes' progress: "He will be fit for the game. He did everything in training on Wednesday and will be okay for the match. It is very good news for us."

Gary Neville also picked up a knock in England's first match but is still set to start against Switzerland.

Eriksson admitted he has to pick his squad up after the disappointment of losing in such devastating fashion against the French.

"It's difficult to understand why we lost the game," he said. "I can remember only two other games that finished in such a way; Manchester United's game against Bayern Munich, and the Italy-France match in Euro 2000."

Report by Ben Hibbs and Gemma Thompson.

Come on Ginger, time for you to score.:rockman: :rockman:

ouch.

Rooney 1-0

******* Shrek :kader: :kader: :kader: :kader: :kader: :kader: :kader: :kader:

Nice goal :rockman:

Get the **** in there :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

more goals please England. :(

GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL GOAL

ROONEY

Owen assist!

I'm watching Algerian streaming TV while listening to BBC

the problem is BBC usually tells me what happens just one second ahead of the TV...

Rooney was pretty darn accurate there huh?

He's turning on the fire baby

Gaz Neville seems to be doing pretty well. Good long balls.

stupid malaysian TV divided the coverage between 2 channel and one of them doesn't have full coverage over the whole malaysia... fork them:f***: b!tches:f***:

where can i watch the game online

www.bbc.co.uk/sport

has pretty good commentary.

aye.. i'm listening to that now also.. thanks god for bbc... :rockman:

Graham's right. use the left. Use ashley cole, Lampard and Scholes.

the entire world must be listening to BBC.

My streaming video is more stable than the audio. what the heck,

Well piss John Terry off. Hes just ball watching. Bring back King FFS..
[edit] and that was the quickest half of football i've ever seen I think. LOL

a little nervous perhaps. Let him play for a little longer. See how it goes.

If we do go through the group stages to knockout Terry better get his game on. He's been pretty shaky. The heat and the sun isn't helping.

Rooney did a cartwheel! :rockman: :D

thanks mate for the info

lets go england! keep it up! no slipups this time!.... btw any1 hav the goal up? also, shokz is it possible for highlights?

England playing well,but switzerland not bad!
scholes playing very good!think Owen shoud be replaced by Vassel,Owen is not in form but it was a nice assist he got
:lui:

Hahah

BBC commertator. I tihnk it's Alan Green.

"What was James doing?"

" [sigh] David James..."

The Swiss were the better team until Roonaldo socred. Meh damn.

Hopp Schwiiz!!!

Heskey, you can go home if you want. We don't need giants making stupid fouls outside the 18 with a few minutes to go. Without Heskey I predict we will win. With Heskey, we are gonna look shaky.

hopp schwiiz :D

BBC commentator 1: "Actually, Beckham is the worst player in midfield right now"

Alan Green " Is that unusual?"


this guy is pretty darn opinionated.

Lampard!! :kader: put in a decent cross!

Haas sent off.

fcuk, second yellow-red card in the second game ... aaaah

we'll see, in the last match against croatia switzerland played better after vogel was sent off in the 50. minute.

Wrong decision.

He deserved it. :kader:

Poor decision by the Swiss player.

Now Scholes should stay up.

Hargreaves for Scholes.

hm...


Well we don't want him to pick up another injury

Scholes off for Owen Hargreaves
Think the coach wants him to be fit for the next match.
Owen off. Vasell coming on.

Rooney 2-0

Nice goal. :brow:

Bugger :(

off the keeper and the post

WASSSUP?

Nice shot. nice shot.

Will he score more?

Sub him out with 10 minutes left man!
We don't want him to be injured!!!

england secured lead and hopefully won this game...........

it's hard. switzerland plays quite good, sometimes dominates, then we get a red card and everything is over :(

vassel should start for england, owen is a little midget bitch

Jorg Stiel (76 og) says soccernet.com so was it a own goal or did Rooney score??? Soccernet syas its an owngoal.

Gerrard 3-0

0 - 3 Gerrard

Damn, 3-0 now :(

GOAL

Told ya two pages ago, Neville has his game on!

muhahahhaha

Pretty good strike by Gerrard too.

Good move, Rooney go REST NOW

3-0. :D(Y)

Damn, how many passes did we string together?

England look really good!!

3-0 WOOOOOOOOOO

It wasn't our best performance today, but being at the bottom of the group, it was the result that mattered today.

They weren't doing that well until Rooney's 2nd. They believed more.

Bear in mind the Swiss only has 10 men.

Hargreaves has made a difference. He is moving quickly.

Final Score 3-0

Rooney
Rooney
Gerrard


We had some luck on our side, decent performance

7/10

Our defending is still slightly sloppy, Lampard isn't doing as well as he should, Owen was muted. Has more chances than France though. Still can improve as a team.

Gerrard that's my boy.(Y) Decent performance from England. Owen did pish today again (that's why i say he's overrated).

Originally posted by Grunger0x
Owen did pish today again (that's why i say he's overrated).

Yea, Rooney > Owen.

Uuuuh man I should of brought G.Neville and Gerrard instead of Lampard and Puyol.

Good job England.

England are lightyears from winning anything the way they played.

Originally posted by garlei
Final Score 3-0

Rooney
Rooney
Gerrard


We had some luck on our side, decent performance

7/10

Our defending is still slightly sloppy, Lampard isn't doing as well as he should, Owen was muted. Has more chances than France though. Still can improve as a team.

Soccernet.com

Says Ronney, Jorg Stiel (76 og), Gerrard so it seems he only has 1 goal.

Originally posted by SlowSilver
I reckon 3-0.

Thank you very much..(H)

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
Soccernet.com

Says Ronney, Jorg Stiel (76 og), Gerrard so it seems he only has 1 goal.
On the TV it was saying Rooney for 2 goals.

Someone tell me and confirm this, Rooney has two yellow cards now. Will he be suspended next match? I don't think so right?

congrats to the english... they deserve a win

If he has 2 yellows, he's off. But dont worry, there's Heskey.(H)

http://www.soccernet.com/images/ah/rooney0617_e.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40284000/jpg/_40284731_rooney300x200.jpg

GOAL!

Not the best of matches but at the end of the day we have what we set out to do.

Roll on Monday

i believe rooney WILL be suspended.... also, the 2nd goal was rooney's - soccernet sometimes makes mistakes

Stiel could have done better for Rooney's second.

Owen sucked. Again. Vassell was lively.

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

rooney showed a very powerful display today.just hate to see that owen is not on the scoresheet and so isn't scholes.
anyways a good way to respond from the defeat v france.
just hope we get past croatia easily.

gerrard must be having his morale high up after scoring .

:rockman: :rockman:
England all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Eng4WorldCup
i believe rooney WILL be suspended.... also, the 2nd goal was rooney's - soccernet sometimes makes mistakes

yea they just changed it now, it shows 2 goals to Rooney.

Good enough game from England, but playing like this wont make them win the tournament. Rooney played good but if he would have hit Stiel head with his tackle he could have died. He needs to chill down a little or he will be sent off soon. Owen was once again a dissapointment and I think Vassel should start against Croatia.
Let's just hope that the English media doesn't hypes this performance as they normally do when Enlgand win giving all the english fans the feeling that they are one of the best team in hte world.

The second goal was somewhat Rooney's but I guess they gave it to him because he took the shot even though it went in off the GK's back. England played pretty good but they were lucky to play against 10 men because Switzerland weren't that bad either until the sending off. It would be funny if Croatia beats France (H), not gonna happen though.

good for stevie g, good for him to put what happened against france behind him and go out and score a goal in the next game, you gotta love him

Not the best performence but a great result.............i know the sending off took the stuffing out of the swiss but we still had to wrap it up and we did..................Like others have said what a great 3rd english goal what a team move:D glad gerrard ended on a high after the french match.............hoping for better on monday. But still a great boost tonight well done lads...........................COME ON ENGLAND:D

Great result for England. A much needed confidence booster before the Croatia game.

Originally posted by VanTheMan


:rockman: :rockman:
England all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

england will be lucky if they make it past the group stage. :rockman:

Originally posted by shy_guy329
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

england will be lucky if they make it past the group stage. :rockman:
your wrong
the way it stands, france will win their game. if france win OR draw their game against croatia, then england need only a draw to DEFINETLEY get through, regardless of france switzerland

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2004280395,00.jpg

It's my party.

What a pig rooney is. That sliding tackle on the keeper, only an animal would do that sort of thing.

And what the hell is wrong with Beckham? I see more useful mid fielders in div 5 canadian mens league. The guy can't dribble worth his life, he doesn't have a left foot if his life depended on it. He's all around a horrible player.

Lol here we go again...

whatever Fenerbahce. whatever.

PWUM

Professional Wind up merchant.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
He's all around a horrible player.

Hey........



























Shut the **** up.

Good performance by England. ALthough Swiss didn't deserve a 3-0 scoreline and that sending off was harsh. Owen sucked again. I hope he doesn't start next game, because he is doing really bad. Apart from that cross to Rooney, he did nothing. Vassell deserves a start. And Rooney is class!


France drew so the group is all open.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
What a pig rooney is. That sliding tackle on the keeper, only an animal would do that sort of thing.

And what the hell is wrong with Beckham? I see more useful mid fielders in div 5 canadian mens league. The guy can't dribble worth his life, he doesn't have a left foot if his life depended on it. He's all around a horrible player.

OMG why did you have to post something like this now its gonna be a war in here.... mods better close this now:kader:

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce

And what the hell is wrong with Beckham? I see more useful mid fielders in div 5 canadian mens league. The guy can't dribble worth his life, he doesn't have a left foot if his life depended on it. He's all around a horrible player.
Did you even watch the game? Football is not about he dribbles the most, it's about who plays the best and Beckham was in top 3 today.

People just ignore him. It's obvious he's either an attention-seeker, a sad prick of a professional wind up merchant. No point wasting space and effort to try to reason with him. it's hopeless

Meh the game wasnt good at all we need to improve alot to beat Croatia if they play like they did against France today.We will miss Rooney since Owen isnt at his best form at the moment...

Rooney is da man.

England's main man up front. What a performance.
Although officially he only scored one, his alround game is great to watch. Direct and to the point. Long may it continue.

Man I did watch the full game. What did beckham do? He has no ball control he doesn't run, he misses penalties.

Now tell me...you don't think he's over rated.

I'm not taking the win away from England, even though they didn't play that great, they still obviously deserved to win. But if you can sit here, and tell me beckham played well then you're blind. Even the annoucer on TSN mentioned how poor his performance was. Rooney is a great player, tons of speed and skill, but that gets earsed with his disgusting attitude.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
Man I did watch the full game. What did beckham do? He has no ball control he doesn't run, he misses penalties.

Now tell me...you don't think he's over rated.

I'm not taking the win away from England, even though they didn't play that great, they still obviously deserved to win. But if you can sit here, and tell me beckham played well then you're blind. Even the annoucer on TSN mentioned how poor his performance was. Rooney is a great player, tons of speed and skill, but that gets earsed with his disgusting attitude.
you can talk bout beckham not being any good if like coz it's true.
But your comments about a great player being crap just don't make sense.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
Man I did watch the full game. What did beckham do? He has no ball control he doesn't run, he misses penalties.

Now tell me...you don't think he's over rated.

I'm not taking the win away from England, even though they didn't play that great, they still obviously deserved to win. But if you can sit here, and tell me beckham played well then you're blind. Even the annoucer on TSN mentioned how poor his performance was. Rooney is a great player, tons of speed and skill, but that gets earsed with his disgusting attitude.
whatever you say dumbass:rolleyes:
beckham by no means had his best game...............but he made 2 subtle influences to the game:
1. 1st goal cross for owen to setup rooney (i did say subtle)
2. 3rd goal great little flick pass for neville to cross for gerrard.;)
good enough for me but yes he will have to improve.

Originally posted by garlei
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2004280395,00.jpg

It's my party.

He's an Obafemi Martins' wanna-be. :p

Originally posted by ShearerM4
Rooney is da man.

England's main man up front. What a performance.
Although officially he only scored one, his alround game is great to watch. Direct and to the point. Long may it continue.

Yeah i agree.Hes not only fast but he has a great eye for a goal and good skills aswell.If he will be suspended i think and hope that Sven gonna play Vassell and Owen upfront :(

And i also think that Hargreaves should start and not Scholes...

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
Man I did watch the full game. What did beckham do? He has no ball control he doesn't run, he misses penalties.

Now tell me...you don't think he's over rated.

I'm not taking the win away from England, even though they didn't play that great, they still obviously deserved to win. But if you can sit here, and tell me beckham played well then you're blind. Even the annoucer on TSN mentioned how poor his performance was. Rooney is a great player, tons of speed and skill, but that gets earsed with his disgusting attitude.

Beckham played an average decent game. 6/10 game.

His range of passing is good, and most of the time it is accurate and fast. Not a lot of people can pass a long ball that well. Against the Swiss, he provided nice cross field balls to the left, he set up Owen a few times with his through balls, he had decent set plays and linked up with Gary Neville. Yes he's not at his best, but he is an important player in the team.

He might have squandered a penalty chance, but the fact is, he made the assist for Lampard. Without his free-kick ability and his corners, England would be a lot weaker.

He may not be the best player out there, but he is a good crosser of the ball.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
I'm not taking the win away from England, even though they didn't play that great, they still obviously deserved to win. But if you can sit here, and tell me beckham played well then you're blind. Even the annoucer on TSN mentioned how poor his performance was. Rooney is a great player, tons of speed and skill, but that gets earsed with his disgusting attitude.
What TSN commentator? Carl Flethcer?


Beckham for the whole game was running up and down, when there is attack for England he is there, where there is attack on England he is again there. Making crosses and defending. How many crosses did Lampard do or Gerrard?

Originally posted by OnE_UnITED
Yeah i agree.Hes not only fast but he has a great eye for a goal and good skills aswell.If he will be suspended i think and hope that Sven gonna play Vassell and Owen upfront :(

And i also think that Hargreaves should start and not Scholes...
Hargreaves? It should be more like Scholes switches positions with Gerrard.

Originally posted by Help?
What TSN commentator? Carl Flethcer?




lol Carl Fletcher knows **** about football

He repeats everything that Dick Howard says. He is so clueless

The second goal Rooney score reminded me of some of the funny goals I've score in PES, hit the post, back of the keeper's head and in. You couldn't plan it if you wanted to:p

Good result...still coulda been better.

The defending in the first half had much to be desired...really think that with King's presence during the France match it would be better to start him.

The Swiss outshot England 11-10

and the possesion slightly favoring the Swiss 51%-49% The England players should be doing better all around against a team like the Swiss.

Originally posted by Eng4WorldCup
i believe rooney WILL be suspended.... also, the 2nd goal was rooney's - soccernet sometimes makes mistakes

Hes only got 1 yellow so far... I think... Can anyone clarify?was he booked against the french, it be bad if he misses the croatia game, that means Heskey to start. :-puke:

Having a good cross isn't enough to be considered a world player.
The only reason he is sucha high payed player is because he is a pop icon, especially in North America where people are clueless about football.

Beckham is abnormally over rated, he isn't a world class player, he can't even use his left foot.

Rooney is explosive, a great player with a disgusting attitude...at least he's usefull unlike beckham

The fact that Beckham is playing so far out on the wing is not his decision. I'm sure if he could he would get more involved in the game, but his position is on the wing now. This means he will not be able to have an effect on what goes on in some parts of the field, or dictate the pace of the game, or come back to pick up the ball each time his team are having trouble starting attacks.

rooney didnt get booked against france

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
Having a good cross isn't enough to be considered a world player.
The only reason he is sucha high payed player is because he is a pop icon, especially in North America where people are clueless about football.

Beckham is abnormally over rated, he isn't a world class player, he can't even use his left foot.

Rooney is explosive, a great player with a disgusting attitude...at least he's usefull unlike beckham
You dont have to use both foots perfectly to be an world class player. Plus Beckham participated in at least 2 of the goals. But well, you're Turkish, i would expect your comments to be biased against English players anyway.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
Having a good cross isn't enough to be considered a world player.
The only reason he is sucha high payed player is because he is a pop icon, especially in North America where people are clueless about football.

Beckham is abnormally over rated, he isn't a world class player, he can't even use his left foot.

Rooney is explosive, a great player with a disgusting attitude...at least he's usefull unlike beckham
Beckham is playing on the wing. And for a winger, the main thing is get the ball and send in a good cross for a forward. center mids have to tackle, defend and attack and shoot, while wingers do completely different job. And Beckham has the best crosses, as well as he defends well and you can always see him being involved in attack. What do you want him to do? Dribble past everybody on the side, when he can make one on one cross?


BTW i think you mean he is popular in Asia not North America.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
What a pig rooney is. That sliding tackle on the keeper, only an animal would do that sort of thing.

And what the hell is wrong with Beckham? I see more useful mid fielders in div 5 canadian mens league. The guy can't dribble worth his life, he doesn't have a left foot if his life depended on it. He's all around a horrible player.

well mate you should know about animals on the pitch ,the entire Turkish team behave like pigs in every game.......and you dont like Becks huh?...........do you think anyone cares what you think?......we are at Euro mate and you are not ......get over it....:D

Originally posted by pede54
well mate you should know about animals on the pitch ,the entire Turkish team behave like pigs in every game.......and you dont like Becks huh?...........do you think anyone cares what you think?......we are at Euro mate and you are not ......get over it....:D
YEah remember that kick by Rustu?

This guy has selective memory Maximus........

and one thing about Becks ,he is an inspiration to others when he is on the pitch.....he is involved in everything that happens and he inspires the rest of the team to perform........every passing move ,every goal Becks has a hand in it.....you gotta look at his game without personal bias to make an honest appraisal of his value to the team........ppl should pay less attention to what the media say ,'cos the media is full of s.h.i.t.......listen to what Zidane ,Figo, Ronaldo and the others say about him,thats what counts............:D

Just to clarify, Rooney will NOT be suspended, he did not pick up a yellow card against France.

:ewan:

Wayne Rooney Statistics (http://www.euro2004.com/tournament/players/player=63891/statistics.html)

After a so-so 1st half, England got the result they needed.


Good match.

England - Croatia will be fun:)

Originally posted by shokz
Just to clarify, Rooney will NOT be suspended, he did not pick up a yellow card against France.

:ewan:

Wayne Rooney Statistics (http://www.euro2004.com/tournament/players/player=63891/statistics.html)

thats a nice fact - i was really afraid of what was gonna happen w.o rooney!

on another thought, should we play 5 at the back (campbell sweeper, and king and terry as centre defenders) to ensure we get the result? actually, i think we should keep it as it is because our defense is probably the best defense so far (apart from the 2 minute lapse which wasnt even our defenses fault)

I'd stick to the team that played against Switzerland, and I hope England go 4-4-2 against Croatia. Although I have a sneaky feeling Sven deployed the Diamond yesterday to keep Croatia guessing.

Yeah I agree, I think we'll see a different Croatia though, it wont be easy. I think we'll have to win, they'll come out very offensive. I so hope we can do it though, we're definately capable!

The diamond works to an extent but sometimes it leaves us confused about width don't you think?

We didnt play brilliant today but we got the result and did what was asked. A few good individual performances especially Rooney!

England have to get a draw with Croatia to go through. I think you guys are well capable than this, as long as you dont do those stupid individual mistakes again on crucial times.

Originally posted by shokz
I'd stick to the team that played against Switzerland, and I hope England go 4-4-2 against Croatia. Although I have a sneaky feeling Sven deployed the Diamond yesterday to keep Croatia guessing.

Ledly King in for John Terry though.
Terry was just ball watching. Never for the life of me can understand why Terry would play ahead of him after such a good job done by King agaist France?¿

Red cards ruin soccer


The Swiss team impressed be quite a bit...I wouldn't be surprised if they become a contending European soccer power within the next decade

-Haas' tackle was deserved of a foul but not a second yellow...the reffing has been horrendous all through out this tournament, man

Originally posted by shokz
Just to clarify, Rooney will NOT be suspended, he did not pick up a yellow card against France.

:ewan:

Wayne Rooney Statistics (http://www.euro2004.com/tournament/players/player=63891/statistics.html)

Can someone clarify the rule for me? Let's say he gets a yellow against Croatia right, will he then be suspended for the next match?

Is it: two yelows= suspension

or is it : two yellows in two consecutive matches=suspension?


I'd rather he be suspended now, imagine us without him during knockout?

and he's such a livewire, he's exactly the kind of player that might get a yellow. The refs have been pretty nice to our 18 year old.

Originally posted by Fener_Bahce
Having a good cross isn't enough to be considered a world player.
The only reason he is sucha high payed player is because he is a pop icon, especially in North America where people are clueless about football.

Beckham is abnormally over rated, he isn't a world class player, he can't even use his left foot.

Rooney is explosive, a great player with a disgusting attitude...at least he's usefull unlike beckham

People in North America don't give a damn about Beckham. He's just Adidas' go-to-guy now that Kobe screwed up, and his jersey goes well with shoes.

Originally posted by garlei
Can someone clarify the rule for me? Let's say he gets a yellow against Croatia right, will he then be suspended for the next match?

Is it: two yelows= suspension

or is it : two yellows in two consecutive matches=suspension?


I'd rather he be suspended now, imagine us without him during knockout?

and he's such a livewire, he's exactly the kind of player that might get a yellow. The refs have been pretty nice to our 18 year old.

Lets say that Rooney got booked playing against France and against Swiss, then he gouldnt play against Croatia...but he didnt get booked in match against France...he got booked against Swiss only, now if he gets yellow against Croatia and England would reach to the quarters Rooney would play cause after the group stage the cards will not count in knock out stage.
If Rooney would get booked in 1/4 finals and in semis he would miss the final.

I hope that i gould help, but offcourse i might be wrong...

Beckham's always been like that though? Why point it out just because he's at Madrid.

Of course, he has a lovely right foot and can do some fantastic out of this world passes. But he never ever takes a player on. Which is in a way annoying for a defender because he runs with the ball, stops 5 yards in front of them, pushes the ball and then wacks it. Lol.

I think i've hardly ever seen him take on a player, yeah he's ran past people before but taking on as in beating them by skill.

But he was like that at United and he's like that at Madrid but you don't notice it as much because he's in the center as opposed to England's right.

He's a good player though and always will be!

Originally posted by OnE_UnITED
Lets say that Rooney got booked playing against France and against Swiss, then he gouldnt play against Croatia...but he didnt get booked in match against France...he got booked against Swiss only, now if he gets yellow against Croatia and England would reach to the quarters Rooney would play cause after the group stage the cards will not count in knock out stage.
If Rooney would get booked in 1/4 finals and in semis he would miss the final.

I hope that i gould help, but offcourse i might be wrong...
are you sure about that ??
the systems is usualy if you don't pick up a second card b4 the ko stages the slate is cleared. ie. If rooney gets booked v Croatia, he's out of the 1/4 final.

Err...As i said i might be wrong, i have heard it is the way i posted but again not 100% sure.I searched for but i gouldnt find anything to help so can anyone clarify?

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2004280578,00.jpg

England supporters. :brow:

Originally posted by shokz
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2004280578,00.jpg

Switzerland supporters. :brow:
so they r wearing england shirts, but have a swiss flag on the "and me" one