Sorry Stevie!

yes it seems gerrard has snubbed the blues to stay at liverpool :$ so i think myself and everyone else who was pissed off should apologise to gerrard (H) however i must admit, i was looking forward to him being sold so we could sign loadsa players but oh well :S i suppose its good news that hes staying but i kinda would of rathered he left if we could have got 36 - 40 million to be honest.

hey kop kid cut me a slice of some humble pie :D

If hed of gone it would have been for 20mil plus Damien Duff

says who? they didnt even make a bid

Originally posted by AberdeenFC
Sorry Stevie!

yes it seems gerrard has snubbed the blues to stay at liverpool :$ so i think myself and everyone else who was pissed off should apologise to gerrard (H) however i must admit, i was looking forward to him being sold so we could sign loadsa players but oh well :S i suppose its good news that hes staying but i kinda would of rathered he left if we could have got 36 - 40 million to be honest.

hey kop kid cut me a slice of some humble pie :D

I'm sure that we'll still get some good players as Rafa has said that he wants to make 5 top class signings I believe. As for the humble pie, I'm saving it to throw at the mancs when we beat them this season. ;)

Sorry for what ?

No apologies from me.

From his statement, it confirmed that his head WAS turned by Chelsea whilst on International duty (sort of confirms that he was tapped up by the Chelski cheerleaders in the FA) and that when he returned and spoke to his family he decided to stay.

I reckon his dad gave him a right earful, and as soon as he saw quite how much we'd hate him for leaving us he just couldn't leave. If we'd have sat here saying "good luck Stevie" and sent him flowers and best wishes then perhaps he wouldn't have changed his mind because it would have looked like we didn't care that he was moving on. Now he knows quite how strongly we feel about him, perhaps he won't let Abramovich's cheerleaders get to him in future. F*cken Cockneys. The way he has handled all of this is disrespectful to the fans and the club. He was ready to leave, that's a fact. Something made him change his mind - I doubt we'll ever know what, but I'm fairly certain it's something more than "family and friends". The way he's acted the last few weeks has not been like the captain of Liverpool FC. I dont know what to think, to be honest. :(

But I would dearly want him to lead our title charge next season, and the season after, and the next and so on....and I'll be saving a truckload of pies for the Russians when we stuff 'em next season and the season after, and the next and so on.

Amen.


:)

p/s Stevie, pull something like that again and I'll personally circumsise ya with the blunt end of Gavin's ball point pen :crazyboy:

good point, i think this should be the. we're kind of sorry but not really steven gerrard thread? :| (H)

says on the LFC forums ballacks will sign in within the next 2 days :| I SMELL SHíTE!! :mrpimp: :p

Finally, peace in Kop Land:crazyboy:

Originally posted by Haukur Gudnason
No apologies from me.

From his statement, it confirmed that his head WAS turned by Chelsea whilst on International duty (sort of confirms that he was tapped up by the Chelski cheerleaders in the FA) and that when he returned and spoke to his family he decided to stay.

I reckon his dad gave him a right earful, and as soon as he saw quite how much we'd hate him for leaving us he just couldn't leave. If we'd have sat here saying "good luck Stevie" and sent him flowers and best wishes then perhaps he wouldn't have changed his mind because it would have looked like we didn't care that he was moving on. Now he knows quite how strongly we feel about him, perhaps he won't let Abramovich's cheerleaders get to him in future. F*cken Cockneys. The way he has handled all of this is disrespectful to the fans and the club. He was ready to leave, that's a fact. Something made him change his mind - I doubt we'll ever know what, but I'm fairly certain it's something more than "family and friends". The way he's acted the last few weeks has not been like the captain of Liverpool FC. I dont know what to think, to be honest. :(

But I would dearly want him to lead our title charge next season, and the season after, and the next and so on....and I'll be saving a truckload of pies for the Russians when we stuff 'em next season and the season after, and the next and so on.

Amen.


:)

p/s Stevie, pull something like that again and I'll personally circumsise ya with the blunt end of Gavin's ball point pen :crazyboy:

So, in summary, you're pissed off because he DARED think of moving clubs, and then decided to stay at Liverpool even though he will be on less money. :rolleyes:
So he took a couple of weeks to make a decision which would affect his whole professional future. Oh, what a bastard!:rolleyes:
You're also convinced that the reason that he didn't leave the club was because of his Dad and because the supporters weren't happy? Give me a f*ckin break. If he was that intimidated by the fans do you really think that he'd admit that he had considered leaving? I think not. Up until today you were convinced he was gone, with 'articulate, intelligent' people in the know keeping you informed. You were wrong and should just be happy about the fact that he's staying and stop whining.

some people will never be satisfied :).

Cockneys are from East London and NOT from West London........bit like calling a scouser a manc really.........:p

LOL

And Chelsea fans are from Surrey and Berkshire anyway!

hehehehehehhe..........not this one man............:D

Originally posted by The Kop Kid
So, in summary, you're pissed off because he DARED think of moving clubs, and then decided to stay at Liverpool even though he will be on less money. :rolleyes:
So he took a couple of weeks to make a decision which would affect his whole professional future. Oh, what a bastard!:rolleyes:


I'm in total agreement with Ewan on this one - I'm pissed off not because he DARED think of moving clubs, but because he spent the past year as Liverpool's captain, kissing our badge, reminding us he's a local lad and a born Red - if that was the case why the hell would/should he think of leaving Liverpool for Chelsea?

The way he talked in that press conference slightly ticked me off too, as if he was doing us a massive favour/staying with us out of pity - again, it would be fine if you had that attitude from a player who always seemed ambivalent about playing for Liverpool but this was a from a lad who always came across as 'Liverpool through and through'.

Don't get me wrong, I am f'ing made up he's staying but I'm also not going to apologize for the vitrol I've thrown his way (not in the forums but in my many phone conversations to my mates back home) - he SERIOUSLY considered leaving so I think I had every right to be upset. If it were a lie constructed by the media and he NEVER thought about leaving then sure, I'd be sorry for wanting to fire a rocket propelled grenade at him.

Anyway, great to have him here, I'll put my grenades away and lets get Mikey Owen signed next!!

Originally posted by The Kop Kid
So, in summary, you're pissed off because he DARED think of moving clubs, and then decided to stay at Liverpool even though he will be on less money. :rolleyes:
So he took a couple of weeks to make a decision which would affect his whole professional future. Oh, what a bastard!:rolleyes:
You're also convinced that the reason that he didn't leave the club was because of his Dad and because the supporters weren't happy? Give me a f*ckin break. If he was that intimidated by the fans do you really think that he'd admit that he had considered leaving? I think not. Up until today you were convinced he was gone, with 'articulate, intelligent' people in the know keeping you informed. You were wrong and should just be happy about the fact that he's staying and stop whining.

I'm glad that you seem to love seeing the negative side of my posts. Why, even in the Dear Stevie G thread I had posted, you conveniently ignored my explanation about using the Craig Jonston segment relating to Hillsborough. As I had said, if he'd written about him breaking his leg before being reminded of how much the fans meant to him, I'd have gladly included that, but since it was Hillsborough, I stated it as that.

All that I can recall, was your dissing me for using the Craig Jonston Hillborough example. I would like to think that after all this time of volunteering and contributing for the HJC, I'd have gained a modicum of an idea with regards to the appropriateness of quoting examples of the tragedy within a context especially one for public consumption. The HJC volunteers saw no wrong in it, I posted it various forums and even those related to the survivors and relatives didnt see fit to jump on that particular example. They thought it was a powerful and touching addition. Hillsborough was a massive tragedy and even today, people are still haunted by it. The Jonston story was one of the few positives that we could take heart and learn from. My conscience is clear.

Actually, things have been in motion for longer than the couple of weeks.

Stevie G: I'm just glad this weight is off my shoulders now because, as I've said, I have been confused for the last three or four weeks.

It is up to you to believe what I have posted. All I wanted to do was to help shed some light on what was happening behind the scenes. I do it in good faith, I never asked for money. (a la KOPTALK INSIDER) Is it my fault that I have come to know those who are in the club's hierarchy? These are the goings on behind the scenes and as you in your infinite wisdom would know, are exactly the kind of things that never gets printed in the media, or even .tv. Given the go ahead, whatever information that has been verified, we feed it within various fan channels.

The part about his dad and the supporters was posted soon after the conference which was I had said, " I reckon.." Any further information would not have reached me that fast, we could in fact never know what clinched it and all I did was offer my opinion. A cardinal sin? Give me a f*cking break. Now that I know better, I will post it here. But of course, I dont expect you to believe a word, just put me on 'ignore'. I promised I wont feel hurt.

Up until Sunday evening, Stevie was going. So whatever info I had posted was right. Therein lies a catch 22, you could want to verify with Rick Parry himself, but he might not want to reveal what exactly transpired for a myriad of reasons. Or maybe one day we will know how close we were to losing our best player and captain to Chelski. On the other hand you could trust me, but again it is asking for the moon to ask a fellow 'KOPITE' to even trust another, isnt it?

Originally posted by pede54
Cockneys are from East London and NOT from West London........bit like calling a scouser a manc really.........:p

I apologize, I was not sure about that. But maybe you could correct me. I had meant to refer to the players who had been in Gerrard's ear all throughout the tourny, trying to entice him to join the prestigious CFC. Lampard is from Romford and Terry is from Barking? Isnt that in East London?

As disseminated by <blank>

Some background to what’s gone on so fuller conclusions as to what has transpired may be drawn by those who so wish.

As you may have deduced the person I know at the club is Rick Parry.

Our conversation on the Friday evening brimmed with anger and frustration at the situation that had developed over the preceding few weeks. What was absolutely certain at that moment was that Steven Gerrard would be joining Chelsea.

He and his agent were desperate to push through the deal as quickly as possible. Rick’s concerted attempts at persuading SG and his agent that the player’s future would be better served by remaining at Anfield or at least not moving to Chelsea had been repeatedly frustrated and rejected.

Rick Parry – understandably – was a dispirited man. He would certainly drive a hard bargain with Chelsea but the fight to persuade SG to remain here was seemingly lost. He felt LFC were competing against such superior financial might. There appeared little if any support from media sources including our own ex-players. He was utterly resigned to SG joining Chelsea.

Then this morning around nine o’clock I spoke to Rick again. It was to reassure him that from what I could glean the fans appeared to be behind the club on the issue.

Before I could continue he told me of the dramatic turn-around.

[Incidentally, I was asked to treat this news confidentially which is why I never posted it this morning. If I’d not been not specifically requested by Rick I obviously would have disclosed it. I told only <blank>, <blank> and <blank> who each honoured the confidentiality]

It had begun on the Saturday morning with further depressing contact from SG’s agent seeking to push the deal through asap.
Then sometime later that weekend – I think he said it was Sunday evening but I’m not sure - came that dramatic turn around.

A somewhat upset SG phoned Rick Parry and confirmed his desire to remain at Anfield. The full realization of what it would mean to leave Anfield had hit him very hard. He had gone to the brink but realized that in his heart of hearts he simply could not go through with the move.

Rick, of course was both relieved and delighted. However, he could not relax. There was still work to do.

SG ‘s agent wanted to defer an announcement until SG’s return from holiday. Evidently he leaves for the Caribbean tomorrow. Presumably one can only deduce from this that it was to give the deal time to resurface.

Rick insisted on a press conference today to avoid any further s*** from the agent or Chelsea’s media campaign and to provide the turn-around with as much pro-LFC publicity as possibility.

SG’s agent wanted the reason for the deal’s demise to be cited as the failure of the respective clubs to reach an agreement on a fee. This presumably was to save face for Chelsea.

Rick Parry insisted on the true reason being cited.

And so the emotional magnitude and pull that LFC exerts on one of its own would be demonstrated to have outweighed any financial clout of the Russian pimp [my interpretation btw]

Also I guess in the very final analysis the true spirit of football had clawed back some self-respect.

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Over to you benny :ewan:

I've heard rumours that he had agreed to join Chelsea but we backed out as Liverpool wouldn't do a deal unless they got Duff as part of it.

a] We didn't make a bid.
b] There was no deal.

Rumours are rumours.

Originally posted by Haukur Gudnason
I'm glad that you seem to love seeing the negative side of my posts. Why, even in the Dear Stevie G thread I had posted, you conveniently ignored my explanation about using the Craig Jonston segment relating to Hillsborough. As I had said, if he'd written about him breaking his leg before being reminded of how much the fans meant to him, I'd have gladly included that, but since it was Hillsborough, I stated it as that.

All that I can recall, was your dissing me for using the Craig Jonston Hillborough example. I would like to think that after all this time of volunteering and contributing for the HJC, I'd have gained a modicum of an idea with regards to the appropriateness of quoting examples of the tragedy within a context especially one for public consumption. The HJC volunteers saw no wrong in it, I posted it various forums and even those related to the survivors and relatives didnt see fit to jump on that particular example. They thought it was a powerful and touching addition. Hillsborough was a massive tragedy and even today, people are still haunted by it. The Jonston story was one of the few positives that we could take heart and learn from. My conscience is clear.

Actually, things have been in motion for longer than the couple of weeks.

Stevie G: I'm just glad this weight is off my shoulders now because, as I've said, I have been confused for the last three or four weeks.

It is up to you to believe what I have posted. All I wanted to do was to help shed some light on what was happening behind the scenes. I do it in good faith, I never asked for money. (a la KOPTALK INSIDER) Is it my fault that I have come to know those who are in the club's hierarchy? These are the goings on behind the scenes and as you in your infinite wisdom would know, are exactly the kind of things that never gets printed in the media, or even .tv. Given the go ahead, whatever information that has been verified, we feed it within various fan channels.

The part about his dad and the supporters was posted soon after the conference which was I had said, " I reckon.." Any further information would not have reached me that fast, we could in fact never know what clinched it and all I did was offer my opinion. A cardinal sin? Give me a f*cking break. Now that I know better, I will post it here. But of course, I dont expect you to believe a word, just put me on 'ignore'. I promised I wont feel hurt.

Up until Sunday evening, Stevie was going. So whatever info I had posted was right. Therein lies a catch 22, you could want to verify with Rick Parry himself, but he might not want to reveal what exactly transpired for a myriad of reasons. Or maybe one day we will know how close we were to losing our best player and captain to Chelski. On the other hand you could trust me, but again it is asking for the moon to ask a fellow 'KOPITE' to even trust another, isnt it?


You make it sound like I'm out do get you no matter what. That is not the case at all, and if you go through the forum I think that you will find that I have actually agreed with you on several points. The fact of the matter is that I am passionate about the club, as are you, but as individuals we're not always going to agree. The point is, if I think that you're being a twat at any given point I'm probably gonna say so, and would expect the same sort of straight talk in return if you felt the need to vent your feelings. This doesn't mean that I have any personal animosity towards you or that I wouldn't buy you a beer after a game, simply that at times I hold a different opinion to you and am perhaps a little less diplomatic than I should be in my approach. As for the quote on the tragedy, I simply felt that it was out of place. I do not wish to enter into an arguement on that subject though as I feel that would be deeply disrespecful.

Originally posted by ruswilks
I've heard rumours that he had agreed to join Chelsea but we backed out as Liverpool wouldn't do a deal unless they got Duff as part of it.

He had agreed, the England players knew it, he just wouldnt go on the record about it. CFC did not back out at all, they just preferred an all cash deal. Kenyon had for all practical purposes guaranteed Stevie to Abramovich, which is why I believe the former is having his sh*t pushed in right now.

Kenyon, what a **** up. :D(Y)

Originally posted by The Kop Kid
This doesn't mean that I have any personal animosity towards you or that I wouldn't buy you a beer after a game

You sorry scouser, you owe me a bloody crate already.


:)

Family threats kill Gerrard's Chelsea move (http://www.espnstar.com/jsp/cda/football/epl/aid=1058309epl_newsdetail.html)

I wouldnt be suprised if it was.

The former Sports Editor of the Evening Standard is now 'Communications Director' at Stamford Bridge. The Evening Standard is in the same stable The Mail. Looks like their commission may have to be paid back as they didn't 'get Gerrard'.

Other reporters on the radio this morning are rubbishing these stories and have said The Police know nothing of these stories - talk about straw clutching by the ****s at the Mail.

Charles Sale is one of the worst hacks in London. Years ago, when Bobby Robson was still England manager, he was being interviewed in Spain when a cockroach scurried across the floor. 'I see Charlie Sale is off for lunch,' said Robson. He and Mike 'Talk****e' Parry used to be the two guttersnipes the tabloids would send off to do such things as get a picture of Russell Harty in his hospital bed, dying of AIDS. Absolutely contemptible characters. If you look at Sale's regular column, it's full of anti-BBC rubbish and loads of pro-Talk****e, Parry and Murdoch tripe. As for his latest 'effort', well, aside from the stuff you've already mentioned, he finishes the anti-LFC diatribe by suggesting that Benitez flouted FA rules by talking to our players in Portugal. I mean, how gobsmackingly lame is that, even from a creep such as Sale. I notice that particular sentence has been left off the later, web site, version, so maybe someone saw just how absurd it actually was.

I hope Liverpool wins a major cup with Gerrard;his main reason of wanting to leave Liverpool was that he didn't want to end up like Shearer with no cups in his career.

How do you know Rick Parry then Ewan? It was quite a turn around by Steven Gerrard wasn't it. Tell me, is SG going to sack his agent now? It seems to me that the agent did not have his/her client's best interests in mind, more the commission he/she would get from the deal.

Originally posted by shokz
Kenyon, what a **** up. :D(Y)

Rom rage

By SHAUN CUSTIS

ROMAN ABRAMOVICH hit the roof when he heard Chelsea had lost the battle for Steven Gerrard.

The Blues’ billionaire owner was told by chief executive Peter Kenyon that Liverpool’s England midfield star would be moving to Stamford Bridge.

But Gerrard decided to stay at Anfield, after new boss Rafael Benitez made it clear: We will not sell you.

Kop hero Gerrard, who has snubbed the chance to almost double his money to £105,000 a week, said: “For the first time in my career, I have really thought about moving.

“But I love Liverpool and the supporters and that is what it has come down to. I have gone with the decision that is in my heart and I am 100 per cent committed to it.”

Fuming Abramovich could not believe it, especially as Kenyon had convinced him at the weekend that Gerrard was on his way.

Now the pressure is on Kenyon, who has lost out on another big name.

Twice he tried and failed to recruit England boss Sven Goran Eriksson to replace former manager Claudio Ranieri.

England skipper David Beckham slipped through the net as well when it was felt he might leave Real Madrid.

Manchester United also blame Kenyon for costing them Ronaldinho last summer, while he was still chief executive at Old Trafford.

Abramovich believes Chelsea should be able to close out ANY deal and is dumbfounded it is not happening.

Gerrard was one of the planned cornerstones for Red Rom’s assault on the Premiership and Champions League next season.

His proposed capture was also the reason the Blues went cool on Porto midfielder Deco.

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It's from The Sun, but........:evil:

Originally posted by monkee
How do you know Rick Parry then Ewan? It was quite a turn around by Steven Gerrard wasn't it. Tell me, is SG going to sack his agent now? It seems to me that the agent did not have his/her client's best interests in mind, more the commission he/she would get from the deal.

Actually, that was written by the person I've been getting most of my updates from, thus the 'as disseminated by..' I only got the piece after the press conference as did a few others and even that was after Parry had okayed the piece.

We were very, very close to losing Stevie and even Parry in the interviews that followed admitted that he was 'very surprised' by the turnaround. I'm sure the fact that his mother refused to talk to him when he called home from Portugal played a part. No idea as yet what he intends to do with his agent. Thank God that Gary Mac in his capacity as SFX consultant was able to step in.

p/s I did get to talk to Rick Parry once though, asking him about our kit sponsors and our sh*tty designs and how much I wish we were still with adidas. :D

Originally posted by Haukur Gudnason
You sorry scouser, you owe me a bloody crate already.


:)

Well, you're still calling me a scouser so that's a start. If you called me a Manc I might have had to hunt you down and disembowel you using the crust of a match day pie. :crazyboy:

P.S- Well if a crate is all yer want, I guess a lighter drinking session is alright once in a while. Have to get up for work the next day or somethin' do ya? ;)

Well, sorry Steve.:$