According to mine "The best _______ in the history of soccer" serious I would like to know what's your opinion about the best player in the history of soccer(of your country or world's)?

Please write according to this:
1. Name.
2. Nationality.
3. Age.
4.(optional). Teams played at.
5.(optional). Accomplishments(Datum-points) in his career.

Mine:
1. Eyal Berkovic
2. Israeli
3. 32
4. Maccabi Haifa, Southampton, Westham, Celtic, Blackburn, Manchester City and Portsmouth.
5. Got a kick in his face from John Hartson(At Westham), Won the Scottich championship with Celtic and helped Man. City to qualify to the Premier League.

Who do you think the best player?

Originally posted by nadsag
5.(optional). Accomplishments(Datum-points) in his career.

5. Got a kick in his face from John Hartson(At Westham)
don't that really counts as a real accomplishment ...
I bet you only need to wind Hartson up a tiny bit and he'll be trying to beat the crap out of you.

Andriy Shevchenko
Ukrainian
27
AC Milan, Dynamo Kiev
-His first ever award was a pair of Ian Rush boots.
-Once finished 3rd in FIFA World Player Of The Year.
-Singlehandedly brought Dynamo Kiev to the UEFA CL Semis a few years back.
-Joined Milan for £15m.
-Serie A Top Scorer in his first season at Milan with 24 goals. The next season he got 24 goals too but didnt win it (I think a certain Ronaldo won it). In 03/04 he won it again, with 24 goals. :crazyboy:
-At Milan he has won the Champions League, the Serie A, the Coppa Italia, the European Super Cup.
-Has yet to win the Intercontinental Cup after Milan lost on penalties to them.
-Will most likely win the Italian Super Cup againts Lazio in August. The Cup will be played in Libya.


I doubt this thread will survive the mods wrath



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i'll just say look at my sig :D

Originally posted by april__29
i'll just say look at my sig :D
i watched a bit of that program last night on Channel Five about G.Best...
it was quite sad :(

yeah he kinda screwed his life well up, but on the pitch the guy was a legend :Dhe's still entertaing when hes on sky sports doing the commentry on a saturday, but yeah, if there ever was an example of how alcoholism can ruin your life then its Besty

zidane

maradona

Cruyff

Originally posted by shokz
Cruyff

what jordi?!?! :D

For me it's Marco van Basten and Zinedine Zidane. We all know what an impact they've had on modern football.

Maradona :rockman:


I saw a clip of Pele the other day and he did an overstep, but it was really wide and slow, I kinda laughed lol and I was like :confused: :o

Maradona was better :hump:

1. Franz Beckenbauer
2. German
3. 58 years old
4. Bayern, New York Cosmos, Hamburg SV

Accomplishments as Player

World Cup: 1974
European Championship: 1972
European Cup: 1974, 75, 76
Cup Winners: Cup: 1967
World Club Championships: 1976
Bundesliga: 1969, 72, 73, 74, 82
West German Cup: 1966, 67, 69, 71.
European Footballer of the Year: 1972, 76

Accomplishments as Coach
World Cup: 1990; 1986 runners up
Bundesliga: 1994
Uefa Cup: 1996
First man to captain and coach a World Cup winning side.

I'm going to throw Matty Sindelar's name into the mix. Played 3 games in the World Cup of 1934. Austria could've won it but the whole tournament was 'organised' by Benito Mousellini. Hence, the Italians won the final.

He was highly rated in his native Austria before the annexation of the country. Matthias refused to join the German side and was subsequently murdered by the Nazis.

http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/News/Kind=4/newsId=53409.html

Zinedine Zidane... need i say more.:)

Originally posted by Amdy Faye
Maradona :rockman:


I saw a clip of Pele the other day and he did an overstep, but it was really wide and slow, I kinda laughed lol and I was like :confused: :o

Maradona was better :hump:

wow, you seem to know pelé very well.

1. El Salvador(Johan Cruijff)
2. Dutchie (H)
3. 58
4. Ajax, Barcelona, Los Angeles Aztecs, Washington Diplomats, Levante, Feyenoord
5. Watch out this list is quite big:

1967,1968,1971,1984: Dutch footballer of the year
1971,1973,1974: European footballer of the year
1979,1980: American footballer of the year

1964: Johan Cruijff makes his debut for Ajax 1 at a age of 16 years
1971,1972,1973: CL winner
1973: Cruijff goes to Barcelona, where he becomes one of there biggest legends of all time.
1974: Cruijff plays a wonderful World Championship and everyone sees him as the best player of the tournament
1978: Cruijff decides to stop his football career
1979: Cruijff makes his comeback to soccer in the squad of the Los Angeles Aztecs
1981: Cruijff returns to Ajax
1983: After a conflict with Ajax Cruijff goes as revenge on Ajax to their arch rivals: Feyenoord
1984: Cruijff stops definitive with soccer
1986: Cruijff becomes coach of Ajax
1988: Cruijff becomes coach of Barcelona, where he will gain his nickname: El Salvador(The Saviour)

That was it :) http://www.cruijff.com/images/signature.gif

In my opinion it was either Beckenbauer or Maradona. I think ppl already posted their achievements.

Zinedine Zidane, the best player I've ever seen.:)

The greatest player is... me. :D
I have just been unlucky so far. :(



No I would go for Cruijff, the clips I have seen of him are just awesome. It is hard to judge players over such a great time period though! The game was a lot different when Pele played, than when Cruijff played, for instance.

Maradona. Quite simply a football god. Scored some of the best goals in the history of the game and could turn a team from 'also rans' into world beaters. People are saying Zidane and Cruijff, but the thing is, they played in teams which were also the best teams (Zidane Juve, Real Madrid and a star studded French team, Cruijff in probably the most complete Holland side ever). Maradona basically won the world cup for Argentina in a side which really wasn't as good in general as others in the comp. Also look at Napoli. When they won Serie A, they were basically an ordinary side with possibly one or two exceptions. Maradona joins, Napoli win, Maradona leaves, Napoli sink like a stone. No other player has had so profound an effect who I can think of. Zidane and even Johan have never been ablt to terrorise an entire team the way Diego did. A close second is the mighty Igor Biscan. :crazyboy:

Name: Diego Armando Maradooona

Country: Argentina

Borrn: 30th of October 1960

Played for:

- Los Cebolitas 1970-1975 (136 matches unbeaten... he was 10)

- Argentino Jrs. 1976-1988 (166 matches, 111 goals)

- Boca Juniores 1981-1982 (40 matches 28 goals) (scored 2 on debut)
1995 (played one month, won last match 1-0)

- Barcelona 1982-1984 (58 matches, 38 goals)

- Napoli 1984-1991 (259 matches, 115 goals - scored on the last match)

- Played for Newell's old boys, and dispite of his age, lost weight and made impressive magical exibitions

- For Argentina 1977-1994 (91 matches, 34 goals)

Titles won:

1978:

- Metropolitano Championship Top Scorer, with Argentinos Juniors. 22 goals scored.

1979:

- Youth World Champion in Japan

- Gold Ball for The Best Player of the Year , A.F.A. Journalist Acredited Center

- Metropolitano Championship Top Scorer, with Argentinos Juniors. 14 goals scored.

- Metropolitano Championship Top Scorer, with Argentinos Juniors. 12 goals scored.

- Silver Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

- Gold Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

- Best Player of America, according to the poll produced to Journal "El Mundo", from Caracas.

1980:

- Gold Ball for The Best Player of the Year , A.F.A. Journalist Acredited Center

- Metropolitano Championship Top Scorer, with Argentinos Juniors. 25 goals scored.

- Metropolitano Championship Top Scorer, with Argentinos Juniors. 18 goals scored.

- Silver Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

- Gold Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

1981:

- First Division Champion, Metropolitano Championship, with Boca Juniors.

- Silver Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

- Gold Ball for The Best Player of the Year , A.F.A. Journalist Acredited Center

1986:

- Wold Champion with the Argentina National Team in Mexico.

- Gold Ball for The Best Player of Mexico 1986 World Cup, of the F.I.F.A.

- Gold Ball for The Best Player of Europe, for the France Football Magazine.

- Silver Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

- Gold Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Player, Journalist Sports Circle

- Best Player of America, according to the poll produced to Journal "El Mundo", from Caracas.

- Onze de Oro, for The Best Player of the World, according to Onze french magazine.

1987:

- Italy League Champion, Serie A, Scudetto 1986/87, with Napoli.

- Italy League Top Scorer, Serie A, with Napoli. 15 goals scored.

- Italy Cup Champion, with Napoli.

-Onze de Oro, for The Best Player of the World, according to Onze french magazine.

1988:

- Italy League Top Scorer, Serie A, with Napoli. 16 goals scored.

- U.E.F.A. Cup Champion 1987/88, with Napoli.

1989:

- Best Player of America, according to the poll produced to Journal "El Mundo", from Caracas.

1990:

- Italy League Champion, Serie A, Scudetto 1989/90, with Napoli.

- Wold Subchampion with the Argentina Team in Italy.

- Best Player of America, according to the poll produced to Journal "El Mundo", from Caracas.

1992:

- Best Player of America, according to the poll produced to Journal "El Mundo", from Caracas.

1993:

- Artemio Franchi Cup Winner, with the National Team.

1996:

- Special Gold Ball for the trayectory, of the France Football Magazine.

1999:

- Platinium Olimpia for The Best Argentinian Sporty of the XX Century, Journalist Sports Circle

2004:

- Funky--K's award to the greatest God-given talent that ever stepped on a football pitch

DAVID BECKHAM

England

AGE 29

His greatest career accomplishments: Missing Penalties

Maradona, Pele, Valderrama :rockman:

1) Zinedine Zidane

2) French

3) 31

4) Cannes, Bordeaux, Juventus, Real Madrid

5)

Juventus: 2 Serie A Titles & 2 Champions League finals

Real Madrid: 1 Spanish title, 1 Champions league, 1 Super Cup, 1 Spanish Cup final

France: 1998 World Champions, 2000 Euro Champions

2003 European player of the year.
2002 World player of the year
Voted NO1 greatest European player over the last 50 years.

Pele

Only player to have 3 world cups
Only player to have scored over 1300 goals
Only player to do all that and win 2 world club championships
scored 8 goals in one game once
Scored 2 in a WC final at the age of 17

Got hit and badly fouled by defenders every game because there were no such things as yellow or red cards...they even injured him for the 66 WC....had he been there.....who knows.

Theres only one "greatest"
Pele

Maradona, like...no way I can say other name for best player ever....except perhaps Eusébio :p :rockman:

Jeff Agoos (H)

:p

Originally posted by WilliamFAlmeida
Pele

Only player to have 3 world cups
Only player to have scored over 1300 goals
Only player to do all that and win 2 world club championships
scored 8 goals in one game once
Scored 2 in a WC final at the age of 17

Got hit and badly fouled by defenders every game because there were no such things as yellow or red cards...they even injured him for the 66 WC....had he been there.....who knows.

Theres only one "greatest"
Pele

Yeap Pele is the greatest :rockman:

Maradona

I have heard many say this...

"Cruyff is the Prince.
Pele is the King.
Maradona is the God."

I have to say I agree with it.

Originally posted by RUSI
I have heard many say this...

"Cruyff is the Prince.
Pele is the King.
Maradona is the God."

I have to say I agree with it.

i agree as well

Maradona and Eusebio (H)

i dont agree that there is a best player in history because football is differant then years ago when pele played and best.i think the question should be who is the best player of a certain time period

Originally posted by dubcrazy
i dont agree that there is a best player in history because football is differant then years ago when pele played and best.i think the question should be who is the best player of a certain time period

You are totally right. But I still think Zidane is the best I've ever seen.

Carlos 'el pibe' valderrama from Colombia
The best passer in history of football!!:rockman: :rockman:

Pele

Spurs4Life i agree zidane is the best ive seen because im 14

Im 15 and the best ive seen is thierry henry and zinedine zidane, but maybe pele and maradona where better i dont know
Most of the people here say that maradona is the best because they saw him play, but ther never saw pele. This is good to ask a 50 year old man who saw all the great players like cryuff, pele, garrincha etc

Originally posted by Serginho2gaucho
Im 15 and the best ive seen is thierry henry and zinedine zidane, but maybe pele and maradona where better i dont know
Most of the people here say that maradona is the best because they saw him play, but ther never saw pele. This is good to ask a 50 year old man who saw all the great players like cryuff, pele, garrincha etc

yeah you right. I say Maradona because i saw him play. From Pelé i only saw videos of some goals especially WC70 clips.

Eusebio was fantastic too. He had flair, technique, speed, shot accurancy, two feet ability, excellent heading, perfect set pieces taking. The perfect player, He was the better european ever. (H)

Eusebio said in an interview that for him the better was Di Stefano.

:Bow: Eusébio





(H)

Originally posted by RUSI
I have heard many say this...

"Cruyff is the Prince.
Pele is the King.
Maradona is the God."

I have to say I agree with it.

Zidane is the Queen :crazyboy:

Ronaldo is the Jester(H)

the best: Roberto Carlos

I'd say Pele, but I'm only 17 and therefor not qualified to make that statement, I wasn't alive when the greats were great.

But what I don't get is why did guys like Pele played in the US? I didn't even think they had a league at the time (I though MLS was created in the 80s).

Diego Maradona... even though he was a hand-balling cheat... He was a very accomplished, skillful player.

Ferenc Puskas was awesome. Him at Madrid with Di Stefano was the dream striker pair of that era.

http://www.worldsoccershop.com/images/Products/Fullsize/Brazil05Pele_BIG.jpg

and

http://www.worldsoccershop.com/images/Products/Fullsize/Maradona10Aw2_BIG.jpg

:rockman:

HUGO SANCHEZ MARQUEZ (Real Madrid)
4 straight PICHICHI's (Never done before)
and 1 PICHICHI more totaling (5) one of I think 2 or 3 other that have done that in the Spain League in it's history What a MEXICAN soccer player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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(H) :rockman:

Sasa Ilic

(H)

OVER !!!

Alfredo Di Stefano

http://futbol.sportec.es/portaldefutbol/secciones/estrellas/leyendas/distefano.htm

Pele is the undoubted best player of all time....his club career was not relevant since he won a staggering 3 World Cups in 1958, 1962 and 1970..injury/illness(I' m not sure) kept him from winning the Cup again in 1966. He was the leader of the best team of all time...the 1970 Brazilian World Cup squad.

No one can be mentioned in the same breath as Pele.

2. Maradona
3. Beckenbauer
4. Cruyff...total football..WOW,..I can only imagine.
5. Zidane....yeah I know that people say that he is over-rated but he is the best player I have seen and that is why I rate him so highly

Originally posted by emmer
wow, you seem to know pelé very well.

What's that supposed to mean?

Im 16 so obviously I wasnt around during the time of Pele. Im not dissing him at all, he was a fantastic footballer, im just saying... Football has changed very much so from when he was around, the game is now definately much more faster and tricks like stepovers etc are done at pace.

Ronaldinho can do a beautiful stepover, that's the difference. At the time I bet what Pele did was the best, and why not? I've seen some goals and great credit to the guy, he's a legend.

I've seen a bit more of Diego though and the guy was a genius, IMO he's better but in others, he isnt. Nobody will end the argument, at the end of the day it's just opinions and that's what this forums for :)

Pele + Diego should have a 1 on 1 haha.

At halftime of the Copa America final :P

Originally posted by johncmcleod

But what I don't get is why did guys like Pele played in the US? I didn't even think they had a league at the time (I though MLS was created in the 80s).

Not only Pelé, but Beckenbauer, Eusebio, Neeskens, Simões,Cruyff, Rep, Carlos Alberto Torres and many other stars played in the NASL (american soccer league in the 70's and 80's).

Pelé played in the famous New York Cosmos.

RONALDO in his prime....

Pele
Maradona
Ronaldo
Di Stefano
Cruyff

in that order!

Are you putting Ronaldo ahead of Di Stefano and Cruyff ???? WTF :eek: they're legends GODS of football...

Hagi (H)

Maradona...is the sh*t

Originally posted by Horatiu
Hagi (H)

:rockman: KING OF romanian FOOTBALL

Zidane is by far the best player i've seen play, i'm only 15.

Originally posted by sharkman
the best: Roberto Carlos

:| :wootman:

Younis Mahmoud (H)

http://www.younismahmoud.com/main.shtml

:(

born where I was born :fluffy:

Originally posted by rony31
born where I was born :fluffy: My favorite player was born in Kabul (H)























Sorry :(

it's very difficult to say who exactly is the best... there are some players who COULD be the best, it's Pele, Beckenbauer, Maradona, Cruyff and Yashin.

Platini? Zoff?

In the end, there's no such thing as one greatest player in the history of soccer. There's just to many of them.

Ronaldo

Best player i have seen since i have exsisted.

explosive, ruthless, skillful he has the lot.

and i love his mentality, he brushes off critism easily

Originally posted by Amdy Faye
What's that supposed to mean?

read your post and you'll understand.

Too many amazing players man!!!!!!!!!I cant name them all but i'll name the one's i like the most.

Ruud
Henry
Sheva
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Zidane
Nedved
C. Ronaldo
Figo
etc....

C. Ronaldo best player in history, yeah right :rolleyes: :eek: :rofl:

Zinedine Zidane and Luis Figo for me. Zidane because he is just a legend, and the way he moves is amazing. Figo, well, hes just a great player, and ive always been a fan of him :).

The best player i've watched (live and on TV) gotta be Ronaldo, and Zizou right after him. From the good old times, Pelé.