Time for the big South American Clasico. Whos gonna take it?
I say a 1-1 tie but since Uruguay is resting all its players for the quarter finals.....i say 2-0 or 2-1 for Argentina.

the biggest is Brazil vs. Argentina :p

But i say 2-1 Argentina

Yeah the South American Classic is Brasil vs Argentina...

Score tommorow will be 2-1 with Argentina being victorious.

Goals by:

Saviola
Delgado

1-0 for Uruguay...

Vicente Sanchez (H) :hump: :rockman:

Originally posted by dannyeli
the biggest is Brazil vs. Argentina :p

But i say 2-1 Argentina

i know.....but i just said "the big clasico" (like the big game).
Its actually a triple/triangle rivalry thing (all three nations border each other)....cause of history and the nations......

Top Clasicos (importance/history):
1) Brazil/Argentina (obvious for who they are.....and they just dont like eachother)
2) Argentina/Uruguay
3) Brasil/Uruguay (SO much history)
4) Colombia/Ecuador/Venezuela?

Id say USA/Mexico is upon my favorites.

Im so hyped. Their hyping this game as so huge. All of Peruan press awaiting it like crazy. Even here in toronto.... the Europeans have woken to another "Argentina/Uruguay"

Sorin was quoted saying "This is more than any game in the Copa....its a Clasico.......so its not gonna be like any game"

My favorite show in Argentina "Mar de Fondo" (2 helarious reporters) are actually specifically gonna go to the Uruguay Concentration tomorow for the event. Should be funny.

Gonna be so great!

EDIT: Come to think of it.....Its kinda like in england. I was thinking of another main triple rivalry and i found it. Liverpool/ManU/Arsenal. All three facing eachother are derbys/clasicos.

Ecuador vs. Venezuela is not as big as Colombia vs. Venezuela, at least for us.... i don't know what colombians think about that.

Sorry to get off topic, but its more like Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal now

Originally posted by Bosnian
Sorry to get off topic, but its more like Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal now

I wouldnt take off Liverpool for its history (theyve just been bad lately).........Man U/Liverpool will always be huge (even in Man U falls in a ditch in a few years)

Id actually have it originally be Chelsea/Liverpool/ManU and now Aresenal now that they are amazing (actually my fave European team).


OH 7-8 hours to go!

for Colombian a super classico would be Colombia vs Argentina

Argentina all the way.

Originally posted by ninobomba
for Colombian a super classico would be Colombia vs Argentina

Yeah after Colombia killed Arg 5-0.....ill never forget that.

so what happened with Montero and that #11? are they playing or are they still injured?

No....their all gone (Bueno...Montero...Cebolla etc.)
Rested for quarter finals....(theyr injured for today anyways)

So....much different team is playing today.

only 30 minutes left.:p

Well Mexico is about to win. So this game will determine who faces Colombia and Peru (Winner faces Peru.....Loser...... Colombia or Brazil.)

There are no easy teams in copa America but I think any of these 3 are not going to lay down to Argentina or Uruguay.

EDIT: 2-1
GO ECUADOR!

Game Time! They just interviewed an Argentino and asked him if Bielsa will stay as coach, and he said yes and had a very pleasnt smile. :rockman:

For a while the Classico for us has been Colombia v Argentina ... also that Uruguay v Argentina is probably the second biggest classic in South America.. and I think they both play to death more than when they play Brazil...

Uruguay came out with a red kit.. thats the 1st time I've seen it.. looks weird

what a goal! 1-0 Uruguay

Uruguay are in the Red Shirt/White Shorts/Socks.

Great goal by Estoyanoff

What a GOLASO!!!!!!!!!!!!! One of the best in the tournament. Nothing El Pato could do about that.:rockman:

Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
What a GOLASO!!!!!!!!!!!!! One of the best in the tournament. Nothing El Pato could do about that.:rockman:

El Pato has received a few bullets in his last few games.. remember the goal against Once caldas... lol :rockman:

Originally posted by skull
El Pato has received a few bullets in his last few games.. remember the goal against Once caldas... lol :rockman:

that was so nice skull (H) :mrpimp:

EDIT --- penalty Argentina

Penalty!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL Kily ( the keeper almost stopped it )

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL

Argentina .........Figeroa


2-1

OMG !!!!!

In 45 seconds Argentina has just score two goals :rockman: what a game ! :mrpimp:

haha Uruguay need a better keeper

Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
haha Uruguay need a better keeper

where's carini?

Bizera sent off for Uruguay for talkin sh!t

I think he first pushed the ref and well... he got a red card.


EDIT --- Golazo, although el pato could have saved imo....

2-2

2-2 now

HAHA EL PATO caught sleeping

el pato sucks. they need to take him off and put cavallero in there.

WOW... that should have been a red card (again) :kader:

Well he plays better with Boca for sum reason. And the goals against him are bullets like that other guy said. BUT this time it was his fault

D'Alessandro is lucky if he makes it to HT:kader:

Originally posted by Brujo
el pato sucks. they need to take him off and put cavallero in there.

Cavallero kinda sucks too... they don't have a good keeper in Argentina atm...

Originally posted by dannyeli
WOW... that should have been a red card (again) :kader:

So should have been Argentina's (think it was Zannetti) in the begining. direct red after he nailed sanchez.

best first half of tournament for sure... a war.

Originally posted by skull
Cavallero kinda sucks too... they don't have a good keeper in Argentina atm...


so, is el pato considered to be better than cavallero?

No pasion1, it was Ayala...

El Pato needs to go. He has given up some easy goals, not today but in general. Snyper, you said he was good and better then Cavallero? :kader:

El Pato is a good GK for Boca but like the announcers said, he is not a National Team GK. Cavallero needs to start next game because Pato is just not getting it done. Cavallero is an awesome GK, he kicks ass. He has skills, although El Mono was good in the preliminaries for the 02 World Cup, but he is too old now.

Brujo, no he isn't. Marcelo Bielsa is just trying him out to see how he will do. Cavallero is Argentina's #1 GK without question. He is most talented and has most experience out of pretty much anyone under 30 right now. He started in the World Cup.

The game is having some hard battling action. A lot of hard fouls...poor Andres. :( Argentina have an extra man and I think that'll play to their advantage in the last 15 miins of the game. I think they will pull out the win.

Originally posted by Spider-Man84
No pasion1, it was Ayala...

El Pato needs to go. He has given up some easy goals, not today but in general. Snyper, you said he was good and better then Cavallero? :kader:

El Pato is a good GK for Boca but like the announcers said, he is not a National Team GK. Cavallero needs to start next game because Pato is just not getting it done. Cavallero is an awesome GK, he kicks ass. He has skills, although El Mono was good in the preliminaries for the 02 World Cup, but he is too old now.

Did they allow el mono to play for Argentina?

Originally posted by Spider-Man84
No pasion1, it was Ayala...

El Pato needs to go. He has given up some easy goals, not today but in general. Snyper, you said he was good and better then Cavallero? :kader:

El Pato is a good GK for Boca but like the announcers said, he is not a National Team GK. Cavallero needs to start next game because Pato is just not getting it done. Cavallero is an awesome GK, he kicks ass. He has skills, although El Mono was good in the preliminaries for the 02 World Cup, but he is too old now.

Don't bring this topic up again. As bad as Abbondanzieri looks, Cavallero is worse. The first goal was unstopable.

Burgos had lung cancer over a year ago and isn't interested in playing for the NT which is fair after he was screwed over once. Enough of this topic, talk about the game.

The ref is losing control, D'Alessandro is being abused since he accidentally stepped on Sosa. We're really lucky to be tied and to not be down to 10 men. :(

Como me decepciona esta seleccion.:(

Originally posted by Brujo
so, is el pato considered to be better than cavallero?

No I think Cavallero is more of national team keeper, el pato is only good in Boca, although he was sitting in the bench for Oscar Cordoba for four years that could have had some major influence in his development...

I LOVE this game so far. It looks like Street Fighter Vs Capcom out there.:rockman: :rockman:

Ahead of Cavallero there are two goalies in my opinion. Sebastian Saja and Gustavo Campagnuolo. (Y)

Campagnuolo...no way. He has been called up a few times to the seleccion but I dont think he is better than Cavallero. No way. Cavallero is Argentina's #1 GK. Hey Snyper would you like to continue our conversation via PM?

What about Costanzo????? How old is he??????

Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
What about Costanzo????? How old is he??????

Broke his arm and has been out and had Lux take over. He's excellent as well but young.

Spiderman, I told you, take it to the Foro en Español and open a thread, you'll get opinions from other Argentinos.;)

Could somebody tell me what clubs chelo delgado and luciano figueroa played for in Argentina?

Final...4-2 Argentina...so it will be Agrentina vs Peru...now I am torn between the two.

Good game, Argentina has 10 goals in 3 games. They slowed up a bit in the 2nd half, but heated up in the final minutes. Nice play by Tevez to Figeroa, and nice job by Ayala to get up and score. Two nice goals.

Tevez is always moving. Even when he plays bad he just doesnt stand there and do nothing. He was awesome for the 15 min he got to play.

Originally posted by Spider-Man84
Final...4-2 Argentina...so it will be Agrentina vs Peru...now I am torn between the two.

Good game, Argentina has 10 goals in 3 games. They slowed up a bit in the 2nd half, but heated up in the final minutes. Nice play by Tevez to Figeroa, and nice job by Ayala to get up and score. Two nice goals.


Where are you from?

So Argentina won huh? ... :p

Uruguay's first goal was nice.

Congrats Argies, good luck against Peru.

Uruguay vs. Brazil looks likely for Quarters. :rockman:

Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
I LOVE this game so far. It looks like Street Fighter Vs Capcom out there.:rockman: :rockman:

lolhaha

Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Congrats Argies, good luck against Peru.

Uruguay vs. Brazil looks likely for Quarters. :rockman:

think it might be Uruguay/Colomiba.....UNLESS Chile loses or ties to Costa Rica tomorow.

I think Brazil is more likely. Neither Chile or Costa Rica have much, from what I've seen, they're likely to draw with each other.

nino...check out the forum en espanol (Y)

Glad to beat those dirty c*nts. :kader:

as usual, uruguay try to break our players legs :rolleyes:

I would have like to see a real ref take this match.

anyways...

Argentina played well in the first 60 minutes, and then in the next 25 we were terrible. Tevez and Saviola coming on helped. (Y)

The first Uruguay goal was fantastic :o

I'm glad we moved on though


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We will play Peru I think:(

I hate playing the hosts.:kader:

You hate playing the hosts? I am torn on who I want to win...:(

Two great goals from ten-men Uruguay weren't enough to stop Argentina. Quite a good game...

Originally posted by RUSI
Glad to beat those dirty c*nts. :kader:

as usual, uruguay try to break our players legs :rolleyes:

I would have like to see a real ref take this match.

anyways...

Argentina played well in the first 60 minutes, and then in the next 25 we were terrible. Tevez and Saviola coming on helped. (Y)

The first Uruguay goal was fantastic :o

I'm glad we moved on though


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We will play Peru I think:(

I hate playing the hosts.:kader:

woa woa.....dont say Ayala didnt almost break Vicente Sanchez's legs twice (when it was 90% sure goal plays).

Argentina "tries" to act like a European team when they play. But vs. Uruguay they always go rough and show their true side (u played with alot of garra today)

Second half...Uruguay didnt even touch argentina anymore (thanks to Fossatti calming them down).

Not even Brazil gives u guys that much of a hard time. :rockman:

and trust me ....if ur gonna cry and pretend Dalesandro didnt almost break Sosa's legs when he was on the floor (u know Dalesandro is a son of a bitch when he gets pissed.) and try to pretend u didnt get as rough as us.......cause thats just cowardly and hypocrite like. (not to mention crying about it.......real manly. )

calling us c*nts.....ur funny.

Just glad we made the Argentine press Furious that we still managed to shut u down with 1 man less (and with a 70% sub team tonight from the other 2 games)......Bielsa's seconds are numbered. :rockman:

Have fun in Peru......think about why Uruguay is happy in the dressing room now :mrpimp:

Dont call us c*nts

Don't strain yourself Pasion, RUSI obviously hasn't looked in a mirror for the last two decades.

Uruguay deserved to have atleast two players sent off in the first half. That is the way Uruguay have always played. How many times were they gonna chop D'Alessandro and Kily down? :|

You might need to watch it again.

Argentina missed many chances. As you said Uruguay deserve credit for playing well with 10 men though they deserved it.

I hope we don't play you guys again because I want to see D'Alessandro's career flourish, not explode due to a bad injury.

As for Bielsa, I hope his days are numbered. Most of the ppl. on these boards can probably do a better job than him.

Who do you guys play now, Brazil?

Yes, El Pato sucks for Argentina, even for Boca, he was benching 4 years straight thanks to Oscar Córdoba...


Originally posted by dannyeli
Ecuador vs. Venezuela is not as big as Colombia vs. Venezuela, at least for us.... i don't know what colombians think about that.

I guess it is turning into a "clasico" now that Venezuela wants to play, but yea after that 5 - 0 thumping by Colombia http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/fighting/1/fighting25.gif, Colombia vs Argentina has turned into a bigger rivalry than before.

Rusi, they got rough with D'Alessandro after he stepped on Sosa's leg which could've been a red card.

IMO, Ayala could've been sent off on two occasions. The first being the kick on Sanchez and the latter being when he brought down Cebolla Rodriguez. That is 3 potential red cards for us so what does that say about us?

IMO, we got screwed with too many yellow cards. Mascherano is playing decent andwill miss our next match. Heinze played fairly well and Tevez did great on the 4th goal.(Y)

Calling uruguayans dirty ****s is absolutely lame, they treat us well and we accept them in our country ahead of any other south american.

Hopefully we regroup and get a more complete game from the team and beat Peru.:)

Originally posted by RUSI
Uruguay deserved to have atleast two players sent off in the first half. That is the way Uruguay have always played. How many times were they gonna chop D'Alessandro and Kily down? :|

You might need to watch it again.

Argentina missed many chances. As you said Uruguay deserve credit for playing well with 10 men though they deserved it.

I hope we don't play you guys again because I want to see D'Alessandro's career flourish, not explode due to a bad injury.

As for Bielsa, I hope his days are numbered. Most of the ppl. on these boards can probably do a better job than him.

Who do you guys play now, Brazil?



Only teams we play tough like that with are ARgentina and Brazil.
ONLY difference is Argentina actually has balls and fights back.....Brazil doesnt (Reason why we always beat them or tie......in last 30 years weve lost count at times weve won in important games).

They just fall back and lose.
It was an odd game (cause of the ref....red card)....but Argentina won well.

But dont take credit away from Uruguay's skilled players. If Ecuador had played all out like that.....they would have still lost 7-0....but they dotn have it in them to go crazy/end of the world like that.)

All i can say is that both teams have reported that they are happy that again they pulled a hell of a show! :rockman:

Congrats! Good luck in the quarters.

(We almost will play Colombia.......unless Chile looses to Costa Rica)

Chile will lose to C.R.C. :p

Originally posted by LOCOlombia
Chile will lose to C.R.C. :p

I hope so.

I really want Uruguay to play Brazil in quarters.

How does a 4-2 victory mean Bielsa's days are numbered? I didn't know winning causes you to lose your job.