Calumn's Film Thread (SG's Official Film Thread) [Archive]

Callan

14-08-2004, 03:39:PM

I have just gone through my wallet and emptied out all my OLD movie tickets. Here are the movies that I have seen... I have rated them out of 5 stars.

Fahrenheit 9/11 - 3/5
Interesting documentary - see it if you are from America, chances are you are more into that than I am, but I find a lot of it hard to believe... Not that he is lying about everything, but merely because he is not telling everything.

I Robot - 2.5 /5
Everything I see in the trailer I saw at the movie, the only new things, were boring things. I didn't like this because Will is generally warning everyone about this problem that is meant to end the world, but the problem in the movie does not seem that dramatic at all, even after it is described to us. I enjoyed the action scenes, but they are nothing fantastic... everything else was to boring for me.

Chronicles of Riddick 1.5/5
I hadn't seen Pitch Black for several years now, but from what I remember, I never thought it would be too good, and it was not bad at all... this movie, the opposite. Starts off good, Riddick goes to prison, movie dies. - That’s basically it. The one thing I hated though is that in Pitch Black Riddick isn't this really huge hero, he is just there helping out a few people - I expected the same in this movie, but he basically takes out whole armies... I also hated the fact that the aliens in the original are not in this one...

Man on Fire - 2.5/5
I didn't rate this to high. The movie started off interesting, but it dragged on for to long. It began to get good when finally things started to blow up and people started to die, but it took to long to get to it. The one thing I hated about this, is the unique editing - fair enough, unique, but it is uniquely sh!t. Here is Denzel Washington, torturing some guy, with all these fancy colours, flashes and subtitles flying up all over the place... that are frankly not needed - especially if the subtitles are reading English words. Overall it dragged on to long and was nothing special at all.

Walking Tall – 2.5/5
Wait, did I just say dragged on to long? Pfft, this movie was to damn short. Starting off serious, building up some action scenes, starting to get funny… then… it ends… It seemed that they filmed this in order of scenes, and by the end of the movie they just decided that it was getting sh!t house so they half arsed it and made it end early… not only this, but the guys life that the film is based on is not really much of a story. I enjoyed the funny parts and the action parts… there really isn’t much to the movie though, I wouldn’t watch it again.

Those are the films currently (besides I Robot, well, in my town anyway) that are showing in Australia

Here are some other film tickets that I found in my wallet (these movies have been out for a few months, so I haven’t commented on them, just rated them)
Shrek 2 – 4/5
Kill Bill Vol 1 – 4.5/5
Kill Bill Vol. 2 – 4.5/5
The Punisher – 3/5
The Day After Tomorrow – 2.5/5
Starsky and Hutch – 1/5
Secret Window – 2.5/5
Van Helsing – 3.5/5
The Butterfly Effect – 4/5

I haven’t really liked the more recent films…

Here are the films I have recently bought on DVD:

Harts War – 1/5
Platoon – 3.5/5
The Last Samurai – 4/5
Underworld – 2/5

I plan on watching Elephant later tonight. Has anyone seen this?

Callan

14-08-2004, 03:43:PM

And Calumn, I know you are getting sick of hearing this... but...

The Usual Suspects - 5/5 -
Fight Club - 5/5

The two movies I can watch again and again, even if I know the end, the twists are in there to give the audience a "who did it, I think I know" feeling, but with these movies you sort of don't get it until the very end, and even then, the film is still great to watch!!

Callan

14-08-2004, 03:58:PM

So, with reference from IMDb - according to there members, here is the TOP 250 movies of all time.

It goes liket his: Rank Rating Title Votes

1. 9.0 Godfather, The (1972) 100,432
2. 8.9 Shawshank Redemption, The (1994) 123,757
3. 8.9 Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003) 71,024
4. 8.8 Godfather: Part II, The (1974) 59,353
5. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 25,533
6. 8.7 Schindler's List (1993) 83,955
7. 8.7 Casablanca (1942) 56,908
8. 8.7 Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The (2002) 91,474
9. 8.7 Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The (2001) 133,598
10. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 116,593
11. 8.7 Citizen Kane (1941) 52,743
12. 8.7 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 59,841
13. 8.6 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 89,679
14. 8.6 Rear Window (1954) 34,957
15. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 53,948
16. 8.6 Pulp Fiction (1994) 110,368
17. 8.6 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 81,353
18. 8.6 Usual Suspects, The (1995) 89,465
19. 8.6 Memento (2000) 75,046
20. 8.6 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 23,042
21. 8.5 12 Angry Men (1957) 24,312
22. 8.5 North by Northwest (1959) 30,722
23. 8.5 Cidade de Deus (2002) 15,328
24. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 26,934
25. 8.5 Psycho (1960) 46,862
26. 8.5 Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001) 47,582
27. 8.5 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 35,863
28. 8.5 Silence of the Lambs, The (1991) 79,938
29. 8.5 Goodfellas (1990) 56,869
30. 8.4 American Beauty (1999) 94,590
31. 8.4 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 13,485
32. 8.4 C'era una volta il West (1968) 12,941
33. 8.4 Vertigo (1958) 29,137
34. 8.4 Matrix, The (1999) 123,613
35. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 25,910
36. 8.4 Apocalypse Now (1979) 55,145
37. 8.4 Pianist, The (2002) 22,351
38. 8.4 Paths of Glory (1957) 11,967
39. 8.4 Third Man, The (1949) 15,643
40. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 16,259
41. 8.4 Fight Club (1999) 91,929
42. 8.4 Taxi Driver (1976) 39,897
43. 8.3 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) 17,456
44. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959) 21,722
45. 8.3 Double Indemnity (1944) 9,898
46. 8.3 Boot, Das (1981) 24,773
47. 8.3 Singin' in the Rain (1952) 17,451
48. 8.3 Chinatown (1974) 21,693
49. 8.3 L.A. Confidential (1997) 60,968
50. 8.3 M (1931) 10,019
51. 8.3 Requiem for a Dream (2000) 37,371
52. 8.3 Maltese Falcon, The (1941) 16,867
53. 8.3 Bridge on the River Kwai, The (1957) 19,251
54. 8.3 All About Eve (1950) 11,243
55. 8.3 Se7en (1995) 74,235
56. 8.3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 51,775
57. 8.3 Rashômon (1950) 9,308
58. 8.3 Saving Private Ryan (1998) 86,638
59. 8.2 Raging Bull (1980) 21,956
60. 8.2 Alien (1979) 53,887
61. 8.2 American History X (1998) 48,433
62. 8.2 Wizard of Oz, The (1939) 33,150
63. 8.2 Léon (1994) 42,410
64. 8.2 Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) 45,462
65. 8.2 Manchurian Candidate, The (1962) 11,608
66. 8.2 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) 9,912
67. 8.2 Sting, The (1973) 20,397
68. 8.2 Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The (1948) 8,865
69. 8.2 Touch of Evil (1958) 10,071
70. 8.2 Modern Times (1936) 8,464
71. 8.2 Vita è bella, La (1997) 32,536
72. 8.2 Reservoir Dogs (1992) 57,447
73. 8.2 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 56,792
74. 8.2 Clockwork Orange, A (1971) 55,272
75. 8.2 Great Escape, The (1963) 16,853
76. 8.2 Finding Nemo (2003) 29,845
77. 8.2 Ran (1985) 9,773
78. 8.2 On the Waterfront (1954) 10,587
79. 8.2 Amadeus (1984) 31,883
80. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977) 18,024
81. 8.2 Apartment, The (1960) 9,415
82. 8.2 Jaws (1975) 40,331
83. 8.2 Wo hu cang long (2000) 45,217
84. 8.2 High Noon (1952) 10,461
85. 8.2 Braveheart (1995) 79,922
86. 8.1 Metropolis (1927) 9,953
87. 8.1 Aliens (1986) 55,319
88. 8.1 Fargo (1996) 57,054
89. 8.1 Shining, The (1980) 42,402
90. 8.1 Strangers on a Train (1951) 8,758
91. 8.1 City Lights (1931) 6,449
92. 8.1 General, The (1927) 5,543
93. 8.1 Donnie Darko (2001) 35,915
94. 8.1 Blade Runner (1982) 65,730
95. 8.1 Sjunde inseglet, Det (1957) 7,730
96. 8.1 Sixth Sense, The (1999) 83,601
97. 8.1 Great Dictator, The (1940) 8,434
98. 8.1 Duck Soup (1933) 8,433
99. 8.1 Nuovo cinema Paradiso (1989) 11,776
100. 8.1 Mononoke-hime (1997) 15,429
101. 8.1 Princess Bride, The (1987) 47,334
102. 8.1 Full Metal Jacket (1987) 40,109
103. 8.1 Rebecca (1940) 9,591
104. 8.1 Notorious (1946) 8,861
105. 8.1 Best Years of Our Lives, The (1946) 5,139
106. 8.1 Ladri di biciclette (1948) 6,003
107. 8.1 Yojimbo (1961) 7,096
108. 8.1 Big Sleep, The (1946) 8,469
109. 8.1 Lola rennt (1998) 27,537
110. 8.0 Toy Story 2 (1999) 34,842
111. 8.0 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) 66,882
112. 8.0 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) 17,234
113. 8.0 Patton (1970) 12,140
114. 8.0 It Happened One Night (1934) 6,624
115. 8.0 Forrest Gump (1994) 75,897
116. 8.0 Graduate, The (1967) 23,528
117. 8.0 Deer Hunter, The (1978) 23,673
118. 8.0 Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004) 23,862
119. 8.0 Glory (1989) 19,046
120. 8.0 Dogville (2003) 7,988
121. 8.0 Cool Hand Luke (1967) 12,134
122. 8.0 Manhattan (1979) 10,591
123. 8.0 Once Upon a Time in America (1984) 15,239
124. 8.0 Philadelphia Story, The (1940) 9,046
125. 8.0 Mystic River (2003) 18,128
126. 8.0 Unforgiven (1992) 26,017
127. 8.0 Searchers, The (1956) 8,742
128. 8.0 African Queen, The (1951) 12,075
129. 8.0 Ben-Hur (1959) 17,992
130. 8.0 Green Mile, The (1999) 49,839
131. 8.0 Elephant Man, The (1980) 13,750
132. 8.0 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 70,653
133. 8.0 Bringing Up Baby (1938) 7,861
134. 8.0 Hable con ella (2002) 9,576
135. 8.0 Stalag 17 (1953) 5,984
136. 8.0 Grapes of Wrath, The (1940) 6,655
137. 8.0 Smultronstället (1957) 4,037
138. 8.0 Lost in Translation (2003) 28,520
139. 8.0 Shrek (2001) 52,800
140. 8.0 Amores perros (2000) 11,402
141. 8.0 Night of the Hunter, The (1955) 6,319
142. 8.0 Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) 9,694
143. 8.0 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) 52,854
144. 8.0 Back to the Future (1985) 58,742
145. 8.0 Straight Story, The (1999) 12,283
146. 8.0 Wild Bunch, The (1969) 9,088
147. 8.0 Christmas Story, A (1983) 16,749
148. 8.0 Platoon (1986) 29,500
149. 7.9 Gone with the Wind (1939) 24,597
150. 7.9 Hustler, The (1961) 6,923
151. 7.9 All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) 5,670
152. 7.9 Gold Rush, The (1925) 5,315
153. 7.9 Young Frankenstein (1974) 19,019
154. 7.9 Adventures of Robin Hood, The (1938) 6,046
155. 7.9 His Girl Friday (1940) 5,617
156. 7.9 Bronenosets Potyomkin (1925) 4,773
157. 7.9 Die Hard (1988) 50,637
158. 7.9 Life of Brian (1979) 28,258
159. 7.9 Ying xiong (2002) 8,309
160. 7.9 Quatre cents coups, Les (1959) 5,186
161. 7.9 Monsters, Inc. (2001) 31,368
162. 7.9 Grande illusion, La (1937) 4,241
163. 7.9 Spartacus (1960) 14,246
164. 7.9 Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962) 6,059
165. 7.9 Witness for the Prosecution (1957) 4,231
166. 7.9 Charade (1963) 7,498
167. 7.9 Roman Holiday (1953) 7,880
168. 7.9 Hotaru no haka (1988) 4,984
169. 7.9 Gladiator (2000) 78,284
170. 7.9 Festen (1998) 10,069
171. 7.9 Sling Blade (1996) 17,797
172. 7.9 Day the Earth Stood Still, The (1951) 8,706
173. 7.9 Magnolia (1999) 38,550
174. 7.9 Conversation, The (1974) 8,477
175. 7.9 Ed Wood (1994) 18,205
176. 7.9 Streetcar Named Desire, A (1951) 8,049
177. 7.9 Toy Story (1995) 39,525
178. 7.9 Almost Famous (2000) 32,597
179. 7.9 Night at the Opera, A (1935) 5,033
180. 7.9 Killing, The (1956) 5,645
181. 7.9 To Be or Not to Be (1942) 2,919
182. 7.9 All the President's Men (1976) 10,857
183. 7.9 Brazil (1985) 26,441
184. 7.9 Trois couleurs: Rouge (1994) 8,822
185. 7.9 Insider, The (1999) 24,411
186. 7.9 21 Grams (2003) 13,151
187. 7.9 Shadow of a Doubt (1943) 4,599
188. 7.9 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) 45,751
189. 7.9 Big Fish (2003) 19,848
190. 7.9 Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) 5,990
191. 7.8 Ikiru (1952) 2,983
192. 7.8 Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (1922) 6,828
193. 7.8 Gandhi (1982) 13,405
194. 7.8 Harvey (1950) 6,675
195. 7.8 Being John Malkovich (1999) 46,657
196. 7.8 Stand by Me (1986) 26,153
197. 7.8 Exorcist, The (1973) 28,135
198. 7.8 Dog Day Afternoon (1975) 12,246
199. 7.8 Twelve Monkeys (1995) 53,773
200. 7.8 Mulholland Dr. (2001) 28,382
201. 7.8 Terminator, The (1984) 51,293
202. 7.8 Trainspotting (1996) 44,290
203. 7.8 In America (2002) 5,268
204. 7.8 Groundhog Day (1993) 37,506
205. 7.8 Lion in Winter, The (1968) 4,959
206. 7.8 Passion de Jeanne d'Arc, La (1928) 2,656
207. 7.8 Miller's Crossing (1990) 11,965
208. 7.8 This Is Spinal Tap (1984) 16,893
209. 7.8 Strada, La (1954) 4,055
210. 7.8 Right Stuff, The (1983) 11,393
211. 7.8 Laura (1944) 3,857
212. 7.8 8½ (1963) 6,523
213. 7.8 Whale Rider (2002) 7,482
214. 7.8 King Kong (1933) 8,551
215. 7.8 Rain Man (1988) 36,304
216. 7.8 Network (1976) 8,088
217. 7.8 Adaptation. (2002) 18,979
218. 7.8 Midnight Cowboy (1969) 11,055
219. 7.8 Snatch. (2000) 35,766
220. 7.8 Bonnie and Clyde (1967) 10,679
221. 7.8 39 Steps, The (1935) 6,478
222. 7.8 Stagecoach (1939) 4,696
223. 7.8 Big Lebowski, The (1998) 40,788
224. 7.8 Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) 27,917
225. 7.8 Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) 2,047
226. 7.8 Rio Bravo (1959) 6,024
227. 7.8 X2 (2003) 29,796
228. 7.8 Thin Man, The (1934) 3,959
229. 7.8 In the Heat of the Night (1967) 5,532
230. 7.8 Untouchables, The (1987) 26,407
231. 7.8 Bride of Frankenstein (1935) 3,772
232. 7.8 Others, The (2001) 30,186
233. 7.8 Planet of the Apes (1968) 17,480
234. 7.7 Die xue shuang xiong (1989) 7,701
235. 7.7 Red River (1948) 3,198
236. 7.7 Sullivan's Travels (1941) 2,251
237. 7.7 Persona (1966) 2,812
238. 7.7 Fanny och Alexander (1982) 3,433
239. 7.7 Being There (1979) 8,957
240. 7.7 Enfants du paradis, Les (1945) 2,754
241. 7.7 Station Agent, The (2003) 3,498
242. 7.7 Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949) 2,747
243. 7.7 Beauty and the Beast (1991) 21,675
244. 7.7 Spider-Man 2 (2004) 22,910
245. 7.7 Traffic (2000) 36,187
246. 7.7 Heat (1995) 36,681
247. 7.7 Sleuth (1972) 4,121
248. 7.7 Minority Report (2002) 42,594
249. 7.7 Tenkû no shiro Rapyuta (1986) 3,286
250. 7.7 Good Will Hunting (1997) 53,825

I will go through it later and will definatly have some things to say... like right now I see.... THE USUAL SUSPECTS AT 18! WHAT!!! that needs to be higher... :p nah, thats pretty good.

PhiLLer

14-08-2004, 05:09:PM

Originally posted by Callan

I Robot - 2.5 /5
Everything I see in the trailer I saw at the movie, the only new things, were boring things. I didn't like this because Will is generally warning everyone about this problem that is meant to end the world, but the problem in the movie does not seem that dramatic at all, even after it is described to us. I enjoyed the action scenes, but they are nothing fantastic... everything else was to boring for me.

Have to disagree with you there. I Robot kept my attention throughout the movie, it had substance, the special effects worked very well and also looked very real and not out of place. And the subject of the movie isn't all that unrealistic as you might think...I thought it was a great action movie, one of the better ones in recent years.

Callan

14-08-2004, 05:54:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Have to disagree with you there. I Robot kept my attention throughout the movie, it had substance, the special effects worked very well and also looked very real and not out of place. And the subject of the movie isn't all that unrealistic as you might think...I thought it was a great action movie, one of the better ones in recent years.

I agree that the special effects are great and fit in well and the subject of the movie is not unrealistic... I am actually into all future like things... but I just didn't like the movie... I saw it as a really large lead up to these robots taking over... then it just ended in a few minuts...

I think I will have to see it again to be honest... at first it wasn't that good I didn't think.

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 07:33:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
Donnie Darko sh!tty? :| no way. watch it. you'll have millions of question after it, but is one of the best stories you'll ever see. Its what is called "mind-blowing" (Y)(Y)(Y) OK I'll take a look

Originally posted by Hakeem

I havent seen the oroginal (with Michael Caine) but people here know it cause Stallone starred in the remake in 2000. I didnt like it much (:/) Yeah, the modern original with Stallone is just awful, like a lot of remakes, but the original is fantastic and I highly recommend it.

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 07:35:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
Garden State is the first movie that Zach Braff makes (he's the star of the comedy Scrubs here on NBC, dont know if they show it there). he wrote and directed it and stars in it with Natalie Portman. Ian Holm is his father.
its a movie not so easy to describe. he's this guy that comes back home from LA to New Jersey (the garden stare) after 9 years cause his mother died.
its a selfdiscovery movie, as he reencounters with his high schools friends and meets natalie portman who is a pretty weird girl. and he also has to face his father which whom he has a not so good relation.

the movie is awesome. I totally loved it and Im going to see it tomorrow for the second time :)

and yes, it is going to open in Europe in october I think with Zach going over there for the press releases.

but really, go to the link on my sig and watch the TEASER trailer (the trailer watch it later) and you'll totally fall in love with the movie.
the soundtrack, as you'll hear in the Teaser and then in the trailer, is excellent (Y)

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/garden_state/ Well, you've won me over (Y). I would see it anyway just for Ian Holm. I have never actually seen him in a film (except LOTR), but I have seen him live on stage twice and have heard him playing Samuel Pepys and Henry V on the radio, which he did fantastically.

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 07:38:PM

Originally posted by Callan
I have just gone through my wallet and emptied out all my OLD movie tickets. Here are the movies that I have seen... I have rated them out of 5 stars.

Fahrenheit 9/11 - 3/5
Interesting documentary - see it if you are from America, chances are you are more into that than I am, but I find a lot of it hard to believe... Not that he is lying about everything, but merely because he is not telling everything.

I Robot - 2.5 /5
Everything I see in the trailer I saw at the movie, the only new things, were boring things. I didn't like this because Will is generally warning everyone about this problem that is meant to end the world, but the problem in the movie does not seem that dramatic at all, even after it is described to us. I enjoyed the action scenes, but they are nothing fantastic... everything else was to boring for me.

Chronicles of Riddick 1.5/5
I hadn't seen Pitch Black for several years now, but from what I remember, I never thought it would be too good, and it was not bad at all... this movie, the opposite. Starts off good, Riddick goes to prison, movie dies. - That’s basically it. The one thing I hated though is that in Pitch Black Riddick isn't this really huge hero, he is just there helping out a few people - I expected the same in this movie, but he basically takes out whole armies... I also hated the fact that the aliens in the original are not in this one...

Man on Fire - 2.5/5
I didn't rate this to high. The movie started off interesting, but it dragged on for to long. It began to get good when finally things started to blow up and people started to die, but it took to long to get to it. The one thing I hated about this, is the unique editing - fair enough, unique, but it is uniquely sh!t. Here is Denzel Washington, torturing some guy, with all these fancy colours, flashes and subtitles flying up all over the place... that are frankly not needed - especially if the subtitles are reading English words. Overall it dragged on to long and was nothing special at all.

Walking Tall – 2.5/5
Wait, did I just say dragged on to long? Pfft, this movie was to damn short. Starting off serious, building up some action scenes, starting to get funny… then… it ends… It seemed that they filmed this in order of scenes, and by the end of the movie they just decided that it was getting sh!t house so they half arsed it and made it end early… not only this, but the guys life that the film is based on is not really much of a story. I enjoyed the funny parts and the action parts… there really isn’t much to the movie though, I wouldn’t watch it again.

Those are the films currently (besides I Robot, well, in my town anyway) that are showing in Australia

Here are some other film tickets that I found in my wallet (these movies have been out for a few months, so I haven’t commented on them, just rated them)
Shrek 2 – 4/5
Kill Bill Vol 1 – 4.5/5
Kill Bill Vol. 2 – 4.5/5
The Punisher – 3/5
The Day After Tomorrow – 2.5/5
Starsky and Hutch – 1/5
Secret Window – 2.5/5
Van Helsing – 3.5/5
The Butterfly Effect – 4/5

I haven’t really liked the more recent films…

Here are the films I have recently bought on DVD:

Harts War – 1/5
Platoon – 3.5/5
The Last Samurai – 4/5
Underworld – 2/5

I plan on watching Elephant later tonight. Has anyone seen this? That's fantastic LMAO - all the ones with high ratings are the ones I went to see and all the low ones are those I decided to skip. I throw away my old cinema tickets so I cant really do the same, but I'll go down my DVD collection later.

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 07:39:PM

Originally posted by Callan
And Calumn, I know you are getting sick of hearing this... but...

The Usual Suspects - 5/5 -
Fight Club - 5/5

The two movies I can watch again and again, even if I know the end, the twists are in there to give the audience a "who did it, I think I know" feeling, but with these movies you sort of don't get it until the very end, and even then, the film is still great to watch!! Yeah, I've always been very keen on Fight Club and because of you, I recently bought usual suspects on DVD and absolutely loved it. Jumped straight into my top 15 ;)

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 07:42:PM

Originally posted by Callan
So, with reference from IMDb - according to there members, here is the TOP 250 movies of all time.

It goes liket his: Rank Rating Title Votes

1. 9.0 Godfather, The (1972) 100,432
2. 8.9 Shawshank Redemption, The (1994) 123,757
3. 8.9 Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003) 71,024
4. 8.8 Godfather: Part II, The (1974) 59,353
5. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 25,533
6. 8.7 Schindler's List (1993) 83,955
7. 8.7 Casablanca (1942) 56,908
8. 8.7 Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The (2002) 91,474
9. 8.7 Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The (2001) 133,598
10. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 116,593
11. 8.7 Citizen Kane (1941) 52,743
12. 8.7 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 59,841
13. 8.6 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 89,679
14. 8.6 Rear Window (1954) 34,957
15. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 53,948
16. 8.6 Pulp Fiction (1994) 110,368
17. 8.6 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 81,353
18. 8.6 Usual Suspects, The (1995) 89,465
19. 8.6 Memento (2000) 75,046
20. 8.6 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 23,042
21. 8.5 12 Angry Men (1957) 24,312
22. 8.5 North by Northwest (1959) 30,722
23. 8.5 Cidade de Deus (2002) 15,328
24. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 26,934
25. 8.5 Psycho (1960) 46,862
26. 8.5 Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001) 47,582
27. 8.5 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 35,863
28. 8.5 Silence of the Lambs, The (1991) 79,938
29. 8.5 Goodfellas (1990) 56,869
30. 8.4 American Beauty (1999) 94,590
31. 8.4 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 13,485
32. 8.4 C'era una volta il West (1968) 12,941
33. 8.4 Vertigo (1958) 29,137
34. 8.4 Matrix, The (1999) 123,613
35. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 25,910
36. 8.4 Apocalypse Now (1979) 55,145
37. 8.4 Pianist, The (2002) 22,351
38. 8.4 Paths of Glory (1957) 11,967
39. 8.4 Third Man, The (1949) 15,643
40. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 16,259
41. 8.4 Fight Club (1999) 91,929
42. 8.4 Taxi Driver (1976) 39,897
43. 8.3 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) 17,456
44. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959) 21,722
45. 8.3 Double Indemnity (1944) 9,898
46. 8.3 Boot, Das (1981) 24,773
47. 8.3 Singin' in the Rain (1952) 17,451
48. 8.3 Chinatown (1974) 21,693
49. 8.3 L.A. Confidential (1997) 60,968
50. 8.3 M (1931) 10,019
51. 8.3 Requiem for a Dream (2000) 37,371
52. 8.3 Maltese Falcon, The (1941) 16,867
53. 8.3 Bridge on the River Kwai, The (1957) 19,251
54. 8.3 All About Eve (1950) 11,243
55. 8.3 Se7en (1995) 74,235
56. 8.3 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 51,775
57. 8.3 Rashômon (1950) 9,308
58. 8.3 Saving Private Ryan (1998) 86,638
59. 8.2 Raging Bull (1980) 21,956
60. 8.2 Alien (1979) 53,887
61. 8.2 American History X (1998) 48,433
62. 8.2 Wizard of Oz, The (1939) 33,150
63. 8.2 Léon (1994) 42,410
64. 8.2 Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003) 45,462
65. 8.2 Manchurian Candidate, The (1962) 11,608
66. 8.2 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) 9,912
67. 8.2 Sting, The (1973) 20,397
68. 8.2 Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The (1948) 8,865
69. 8.2 Touch of Evil (1958) 10,071
70. 8.2 Modern Times (1936) 8,464
71. 8.2 Vita è bella, La (1997) 32,536
72. 8.2 Reservoir Dogs (1992) 57,447
73. 8.2 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 56,792
74. 8.2 Clockwork Orange, A (1971) 55,272
75. 8.2 Great Escape, The (1963) 16,853
76. 8.2 Finding Nemo (2003) 29,845
77. 8.2 Ran (1985) 9,773
78. 8.2 On the Waterfront (1954) 10,587
79. 8.2 Amadeus (1984) 31,883
80. 8.2 Annie Hall (1977) 18,024
81. 8.2 Apartment, The (1960) 9,415
82. 8.2 Jaws (1975) 40,331
83. 8.2 Wo hu cang long (2000) 45,217
84. 8.2 High Noon (1952) 10,461
85. 8.2 Braveheart (1995) 79,922
86. 8.1 Metropolis (1927) 9,953
87. 8.1 Aliens (1986) 55,319
88. 8.1 Fargo (1996) 57,054
89. 8.1 Shining, The (1980) 42,402
90. 8.1 Strangers on a Train (1951) 8,758
91. 8.1 City Lights (1931) 6,449
92. 8.1 General, The (1927) 5,543
93. 8.1 Donnie Darko (2001) 35,915
94. 8.1 Blade Runner (1982) 65,730
95. 8.1 Sjunde inseglet, Det (1957) 7,730
96. 8.1 Sixth Sense, The (1999) 83,601
97. 8.1 Great Dictator, The (1940) 8,434
98. 8.1 Duck Soup (1933) 8,433
99. 8.1 Nuovo cinema Paradiso (1989) 11,776
100. 8.1 Mononoke-hime (1997) 15,429
101. 8.1 Princess Bride, The (1987) 47,334
102. 8.1 Full Metal Jacket (1987) 40,109
103. 8.1 Rebecca (1940) 9,591
104. 8.1 Notorious (1946) 8,861
105. 8.1 Best Years of Our Lives, The (1946) 5,139
106. 8.1 Ladri di biciclette (1948) 6,003
107. 8.1 Yojimbo (1961) 7,096
108. 8.1 Big Sleep, The (1946) 8,469
109. 8.1 Lola rennt (1998) 27,537
110. 8.0 Toy Story 2 (1999) 34,842
111. 8.0 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) 66,882
112. 8.0 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) 17,234
113. 8.0 Patton (1970) 12,140
114. 8.0 It Happened One Night (1934) 6,624
115. 8.0 Forrest Gump (1994) 75,897
116. 8.0 Graduate, The (1967) 23,528
117. 8.0 Deer Hunter, The (1978) 23,673
118. 8.0 Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004) 23,862
119. 8.0 Glory (1989) 19,046
120. 8.0 Dogville (2003) 7,988
121. 8.0 Cool Hand Luke (1967) 12,134
122. 8.0 Manhattan (1979) 10,591
123. 8.0 Once Upon a Time in America (1984) 15,239
124. 8.0 Philadelphia Story, The (1940) 9,046
125. 8.0 Mystic River (2003) 18,128
126. 8.0 Unforgiven (1992) 26,017
127. 8.0 Searchers, The (1956) 8,742
128. 8.0 African Queen, The (1951) 12,075
129. 8.0 Ben-Hur (1959) 17,992
130. 8.0 Green Mile, The (1999) 49,839
131. 8.0 Elephant Man, The (1980) 13,750
132. 8.0 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 70,653
133. 8.0 Bringing Up Baby (1938) 7,861
134. 8.0 Hable con ella (2002) 9,576
135. 8.0 Stalag 17 (1953) 5,984
136. 8.0 Grapes of Wrath, The (1940) 6,655
137. 8.0 Smultronstället (1957) 4,037
138. 8.0 Lost in Translation (2003) 28,520
139. 8.0 Shrek (2001) 52,800
140. 8.0 Amores perros (2000) 11,402
141. 8.0 Night of the Hunter, The (1955) 6,319
142. 8.0 Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) 9,694
143. 8.0 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) 52,854
144. 8.0 Back to the Future (1985) 58,742
145. 8.0 Straight Story, The (1999) 12,283
146. 8.0 Wild Bunch, The (1969) 9,088
147. 8.0 Christmas Story, A (1983) 16,749
148. 8.0 Platoon (1986) 29,500
149. 7.9 Gone with the Wind (1939) 24,597
150. 7.9 Hustler, The (1961) 6,923
151. 7.9 All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) 5,670
152. 7.9 Gold Rush, The (1925) 5,315
153. 7.9 Young Frankenstein (1974) 19,019
154. 7.9 Adventures of Robin Hood, The (1938) 6,046
155. 7.9 His Girl Friday (1940) 5,617
156. 7.9 Bronenosets Potyomkin (1925) 4,773
157. 7.9 Die Hard (1988) 50,637
158. 7.9 Life of Brian (1979) 28,258
159. 7.9 Ying xiong (2002) 8,309
160. 7.9 Quatre cents coups, Les (1959) 5,186
161. 7.9 Monsters, Inc. (2001) 31,368
162. 7.9 Grande illusion, La (1937) 4,241
163. 7.9 Spartacus (1960) 14,246
164. 7.9 Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The (1962) 6,059
165. 7.9 Witness for the Prosecution (1957) 4,231
166. 7.9 Charade (1963) 7,498
167. 7.9 Roman Holiday (1953) 7,880
168. 7.9 Hotaru no haka (1988) 4,984
169. 7.9 Gladiator (2000) 78,284
170. 7.9 Festen (1998) 10,069
171. 7.9 Sling Blade (1996) 17,797
172. 7.9 Day the Earth Stood Still, The (1951) 8,706
173. 7.9 Magnolia (1999) 38,550
174. 7.9 Conversation, The (1974) 8,477
175. 7.9 Ed Wood (1994) 18,205
176. 7.9 Streetcar Named Desire, A (1951) 8,049
177. 7.9 Toy Story (1995) 39,525
178. 7.9 Almost Famous (2000) 32,597
179. 7.9 Night at the Opera, A (1935) 5,033
180. 7.9 Killing, The (1956) 5,645
181. 7.9 To Be or Not to Be (1942) 2,919
182. 7.9 All the President's Men (1976) 10,857
183. 7.9 Brazil (1985) 26,441
184. 7.9 Trois couleurs: Rouge (1994) 8,822
185. 7.9 Insider, The (1999) 24,411
186. 7.9 21 Grams (2003) 13,151
187. 7.9 Shadow of a Doubt (1943) 4,599
188. 7.9 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) 45,751
189. 7.9 Big Fish (2003) 19,848
190. 7.9 Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) 5,990
191. 7.8 Ikiru (1952) 2,983
192. 7.8 Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (1922) 6,828
193. 7.8 Gandhi (1982) 13,405
194. 7.8 Harvey (1950) 6,675
195. 7.8 Being John Malkovich (1999) 46,657
196. 7.8 Stand by Me (1986) 26,153
197. 7.8 Exorcist, The (1973) 28,135
198. 7.8 Dog Day Afternoon (1975) 12,246
199. 7.8 Twelve Monkeys (1995) 53,773
200. 7.8 Mulholland Dr. (2001) 28,382
201. 7.8 Terminator, The (1984) 51,293
202. 7.8 Trainspotting (1996) 44,290
203. 7.8 In America (2002) 5,268
204. 7.8 Groundhog Day (1993) 37,506
205. 7.8 Lion in Winter, The (1968) 4,959
206. 7.8 Passion de Jeanne d'Arc, La (1928) 2,656
207. 7.8 Miller's Crossing (1990) 11,965
208. 7.8 This Is Spinal Tap (1984) 16,893
209. 7.8 Strada, La (1954) 4,055
210. 7.8 Right Stuff, The (1983) 11,393
211. 7.8 Laura (1944) 3,857
212. 7.8 8½ (1963) 6,523
213. 7.8 Whale Rider (2002) 7,482
214. 7.8 King Kong (1933) 8,551
215. 7.8 Rain Man (1988) 36,304
216. 7.8 Network (1976) 8,088
217. 7.8 Adaptation. (2002) 18,979
218. 7.8 Midnight Cowboy (1969) 11,055
219. 7.8 Snatch. (2000) 35,766
220. 7.8 Bonnie and Clyde (1967) 10,679
221. 7.8 39 Steps, The (1935) 6,478
222. 7.8 Stagecoach (1939) 4,696
223. 7.8 Big Lebowski, The (1998) 40,788
224. 7.8 Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) 27,917
225. 7.8 Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) 2,047
226. 7.8 Rio Bravo (1959) 6,024
227. 7.8 X2 (2003) 29,796
228. 7.8 Thin Man, The (1934) 3,959
229. 7.8 In the Heat of the Night (1967) 5,532
230. 7.8 Untouchables, The (1987) 26,407
231. 7.8 Bride of Frankenstein (1935) 3,772
232. 7.8 Others, The (2001) 30,186
233. 7.8 Planet of the Apes (1968) 17,480
234. 7.7 Die xue shuang xiong (1989) 7,701
235. 7.7 Red River (1948) 3,198
236. 7.7 Sullivan's Travels (1941) 2,251
237. 7.7 Persona (1966) 2,812
238. 7.7 Fanny och Alexander (1982) 3,433
239. 7.7 Being There (1979) 8,957
240. 7.7 Enfants du paradis, Les (1945) 2,754
241. 7.7 Station Agent, The (2003) 3,498
242. 7.7 Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949) 2,747
243. 7.7 Beauty and the Beast (1991) 21,675
244. 7.7 Spider-Man 2 (2004) 22,910
245. 7.7 Traffic (2000) 36,187
246. 7.7 Heat (1995) 36,681
247. 7.7 Sleuth (1972) 4,121
248. 7.7 Minority Report (2002) 42,594
249. 7.7 Tenkû no shiro Rapyuta (1986) 3,286
250. 7.7 Good Will Hunting (1997) 53,825

I will go through it later and will definatly have some things to say... like right now I see.... THE USUAL SUSPECTS AT 18! WHAT!!! that needs to be higher... :p nah, thats pretty good. I dont usually think much of public votes, though that one looks pretty good, I guess they're proper film fans, but to be honest I think it public is pretty stupid. I'll post my top 20 as soon as I get the list straight in my mind.

As for I, Robot, I purposfully skipped it but I may go and see it now from what Philler has said. The trailer was hillarious - every car an audi.

SOrry for making so many consecutive replies, but I wanted to comment on every post because they were so excellent. Thanx guys.

Tom

14-08-2004, 07:48:PM

oh my god, who on earth voted Lord of the Rings that high up, ANYONE could have made such a good book into a decent film, cant believe that.

Also, one flew over the cuckoos next is very overrated, good good film, but not one of the best ever.

TROD.

Callan

14-08-2004, 07:50:PM

I just watched Elephant.

It is an independent film by Gus Van Sant, dare I say it, inspired by the Columbine shootings.

You would have probably seen it, it was made last year but I take it that it only just came out in Australia.

Anyway, it was alright, it was pretty bad what some of these kids do... but the movie wasn't really bad.

I didn't like the ending, and some of the acting was pretty bad... a lot of the scenes were rather boring as well, like when we see people walking of screen for about 5 minutes with nothing else happening... just boring.

I would give it a 2.5/5 or 3/5 - good, but could definatly be a lot better.

Disturbing none the less. Like Requiem for a Dream, only, not about drugs, and not as good...

Callan

14-08-2004, 07:53:PM

Originally posted by TROD
oh my god, who on earth voted Lord of the Rings that high up, ANYONE could have made such a good book into a decent film, cant believe that.

Also, one flew over the cuckoos next is very overrated, good good film, but not one of the best ever.

TROD.

I am doing film making next year, I cannot wait.

None the less, the Lord of the Rings was a very good movie, despite its bookness, the film was great, but I agree, it doesn't deserve to be that high up, the Usual suspects should definatly be in front of it :p

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 07:57:PM

I hate the Lord of the Rings films, such a horrible adaptation of such a good book.

I hope to do film making when I leave 6th form in a couple of years. I've already written a couple of screenplays which, without meaning to sound arrogant, I think are pretty good.

Sir Calumn

14-08-2004, 09:47:PM

Right, I've finally fixed upon my top 20:

1. Kill Bill (Quentin Tarantino)

- Tom will tell you what a massive fan of Tarantino I am, and this is his latest and greatest masterpiece. Fantastic in all aspects, this film is just pure genius. (I count vols 1 and 2 as one film because it would be if it wasnt because of the oscars)

2. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino)

- Only just behind Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction's dialoges are just sensational as is the acting and pretty much everything else about it.

3. The Godfather 1 and 2 (Francis Ford Coppola)

- Pure brilliance is all I can say to describe The Godfather 1 and 2, which is better I am not quite sure, but together they are just awesome with a godly storyline and acting which is second to none from Brando, Pacino and Duvall.

4. From Dusk Til Dawn (Robert Rodriguez)

- Most people will think I am being stupid, but the fantastic spontanuity of this film as well as fantastic acting from Tarantino and Keitel make this my number 4, if only for the enjoyment factor.

5. Miller's Crossing (The Coen Brothers)

- Many films have claimed to be the best gangster film since the Godfather, but for me this is it. Absolutely fantasicly directed by one of my very favourite directors, Joel Coen, this is just a breathtakingly good film.

6. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola)

- An absolute visual masterpiece and very powerful, this is probably the film I watch most often (apart from Tarantino Films) Robert Duvall puts in the performance of a lifetime and the surrealism adds so much to the horror.

7. Diva (Jaques Beneux)

- With an ordinary plot, poor acting and bad scenery this should just be another crappy B movie, but not for me. There are a couple of absolutely godly scenes which bring this film so far above the level of most that I have scene.

8. The Shawshank Redemption (Frank Darabont)

- You've already heard my opinions on this, but I was gobsmacked that I had gone so long without seeing it, being the masterpiece it is.

9. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles)

- A classic film with a totally engrossing storyline and such wonderful acting, Citizen Kane blows me away everytime I watch it. Better than nearly every modern film, it just proves how great Black and White cinema can be.

10. El Topo (Alejandro Jodorowsky)

- This is without doubt the most sick, surreal and f*cked up film I have ever seen but I love it for that reason. Out of my whole list, this spaghetti western is the one I most urge you to see.

11. Scarface (Brian De Palma)

- A fantastic epic which will be on most peoples toplists, Scarface has not only one or two great scenes but also a kickass storyline and amazing acting. How that piece of sh!t Oliver Stone could write such a good screenplay I dont know.

12. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Sergio Leone)

- An absolutely stunning masterwork and probably the best western of all time. Another film I watch over and over, with godly performances by Wallach and van Cleef and a story line to match, it is amazing how this 40 year old film has remained unbeaten in its genre

13. The Usual Suspects (Brian Singer)

- See any Callan post ;)

14. Reservoir Dogs (Quentin Tarantino)

- The best soundtrack of any film ever, Reservoir Dogs deserves worship for bringing Tarantino to us, as well as being a fantasticly worked and acted storyline. One of my very favourite actors, Steve Buscemi, puts the icing on the cake with a performance of a lifetime.

15. Get Carter (Mike Hodges)

- Dark, moody, yet oddly comic, the original Get Carter is a truely brilliant film, which Michale Caine proving his real class. I highly recommend it to any American.

16. The Silence of the Lambs (Johnathon Demme)

- Psycologically brilliant, wonderfully gory and superbly acted by both Foster and Hopkins, TSotL is so much more than you're ordinary crime thriller, I was absolutely breath-taken by the sheer quality of everything. The sequel, Hannibal, while not quite as good, is also well worth seeing with Gary Oldman making up for the very disappointing performance by Moore.

17. The Deer Hunter (Michael Cimino)

- Only two films have every made me cry, Bambi and The Deer Hunter, and when I saw the Deer Hunter I was 10 years older. So moving and so awesomely acted by the great Walken and De Niro, this is the most powerful film I have ever seen.

18. Night on Earth (Jim Jarmusch)

- Individually not such a good film perhaps, but I had to give Jarmusch a mention as he is a truely great director. Having such a close friendship with Tom Waits, the soundtrack was exquisit as always and an amazing performace by Begnini makes this Jarmusch's best creation.

19. Blazing Saddles (Mel Brooks)

- This film is utter crap, yet for some reason I love it. So funny, so outrageous and so spontanious, this crazy film but the legendary Mel Brooks is one which I laugh through pretty much non stop.

20. Monty Python's The Life of Brian (Terry Jones)

- The funniest film ever made, the Pythons are just fantastic. I dont see how they can think of such funny moments, but they do and all the better for us. THe satirical element of Life of Brian is what makes it my favourite Python film, but all are pretty much as hillariously fantastic as each other.

Other films I love which deserve a mention: Saving Private Ryan, The Seventh Seal, The Parole Officer, Jackie Brown and Terminator 1 and 2.

Hakeem

15-08-2004, 02:47:AM

wow. Excellent list Calumn (Y)(Y)(Y)

Its hard to make a top X list. There are the best films and then there are the favorite movies.
These next are my Favorite movies:

Here's my top 6 and then the next 24.

1- Pretty Woman: I'm a HUGE Julia Roberts fan. She's a goddess to me and Pretty Woman did that for me. I've watched it more than a 100 times and never got tired of it.

1- Lord of the Rings: LotR is a masterpiece. And I disagree with those who said it wasn't well adapted from the books. The theatrical versions are excellent, and the Extended Versions are a fan's dream. Everything in the movie is perfect from the acting to the costumes to the visual effects. This movie is a piece of art.

Pretty Woman and Lord of the Rings are tied for the top spot. LotR is a better movie overall, but if you ask me what's my favorite movie I say Pretty Woman.

3- Almost Famous: Almost Famous touched my heart when I saw it. It's a movie that inspires me and makes me angry that that didn't happen to me.

4- Forrest Gump: Tom Hanks and a story that has everything, set in the times when everthing happened.

5- Kill Bill: I love these movies so much. From the action to the perfect music to the superb acting. Tarantino is a master storyteller and makes Uma Thurman do everything in the movie to which she responds with perfect acting. And David Carradine is a God. His Superman speech is excellent.

5- Pulp Fiction: Tarantino again with this violent story full of excellent dialogue and excellent acting. He could've made 5 (at least) different movies out of this one and all of them would've been great, but combined, they're masterpiece.

Again, Tarantino's masterpieces tied for the 5th spot. I love them both. PF is a classic in my memory, KB is more recent and I've seen each part just 2 times. Plus I didn't see PF in a theatre so couldn't say which one is better for me right now.

That's the top 6. Any of those movies are my favorite movie of all time, with Pretty Woman being the one that's always been my number one.

The next 19 (to complete my top 25) are movies that make me watch them over and over again. Again, favorite movies.
The order is not clear for me so Im ordering them alphabetically. I can't compare The Godfather or Saving Private Ryan with Rounders or Donnie Darko and less with The Father of the Bride or About a Boy. Some are better movies all around, but I'd preffer to watch the one that's not so perfectly acted, but that it has a story I love more.

About a Boy
Armageddon
Donnie Darko
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Fight Club
Garden State
Girl Interrupted
Good Will Hunting
Igby Goes Down
Jurassic Park
Notting Hill
Rounders
Saving Private Ryan
Se7en
Stand by Me
The Father of the Bride
The Godfather
The Goonies
The Notebook
The Royal Tenenbaums
The Ussual Suspects
The Virgin Suicides
Unbreakable
and The Lion King which is my favorite animated movie of all time.

Hakeem

15-08-2004, 02:51:AM

btw, you'll see that I have some movies that are pretty new (garden state hasnt opened wide here in the US and Ive seen it twice already :p ) but are movies that I watched more than once and that I love.
I also dont have the classic old movies, basically because I havent seen them that many times and they havent touched me as much as these.
Also, I dont have any comedies, I simply cant compare comedies with other genres :(
Ill make a top 10 comedies list and a top 10 Best Films list when I have some time to think :)

Sir Calumn

15-08-2004, 03:21:AM

It's very interesting Hakeem, you and me seem to have quite different tastes in films yet the items on your list appeal to me greatly as I think the items on mine did to you. I also really like the way you have such a mix of popular mainstream movies and small time cult classics in your list - shows you have a great all round appreciation.

Mine only contains a couple of comedies in the last two spaces, I agree they just dont have the substance of other genres. Interestingly, Comedy is about the only thing I watch on TV apart from films. I would do a top 10 comedy list but I really dont think there are 10 comedy films I've really enjoyed.

PhiLLer

15-08-2004, 06:49:PM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC

As for I, Robot, I purposfully skipped it but I may go and see it now from what Philler has said. The trailer was hillarious - every car an audi.

Yeah you can tell where a part of the budget came from. There are four companies advertised (Converse All Star shoes, Fed Ex, Audi, JVC) but it's not annoying and blends in well with the movie.

Tom

15-08-2004, 07:50:PM

beautiful product placement with the JVC btw.

personally i didnt think I, Robot would be as good as it was, the trailors looked cliched but the film was refreshingly good, well worth a watch.

TROD.

PhiLLer

15-08-2004, 08:12:PM

The bit where he sneezes and then says "I'm sorry, I'm alergic to bullshít":rockman:

Sir Calumn

15-08-2004, 09:59:PM

I absolutely hate Will Smith, but I think he plays a completely different role to his usual in this film, so I might give it a try.

Tom

15-08-2004, 10:16:PM

the whole cinema laughed when he said that, personally i laughed a little bit, but not THAT much.

TROD.

Sir Calumn

15-08-2004, 10:18:PM

Originally posted by TROD
the whole cinema laughed when he said that, personally i laughed a little bit, but not THAT much.

TROD. Yeah, it;s been done quite a few times before. I'm sure they did that on Fools and Horses.

Tom

15-08-2004, 10:20:PM

personally i hate only fools and horses, but so many people love it that i try not to mention that.

TROD.

Sir Calumn

17-08-2004, 04:43:AM

Kill Bill 2 came out on DVD today, so I got to relive the magic again, and boy is it a good sequel. When I first saw it, I had misgivings, I felt kinda let down but then on reflection it really grew on me and when I saw it for the second time in the cinema I loved it. Ever since I've been dying to see it again, and it lived up to my rememberance. So moving, with such great dialogues and themes make it such a great contrast to the equally brilliant volume one. To anyone who hasnt seen it, I saw as hell recommend you do.

Tom

17-08-2004, 04:49:AM

hmm, so you didnt see it the FIRST time in the cinema ;) ;)

TROD.

Sir Calumn

17-08-2004, 04:57:AM

Originally posted by TROD
hmm, so you didnt see it the FIRST time in the cinema ;) ;)

TROD. I saw it at the cinema twice :p

Hakeem

17-08-2004, 07:51:AM

me too :p

I didnt buy KB1 when it came out, nor KB2 now on DVD.
Im saving for the american version of this: (H)

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1003628537/did-0/code-j/section-videos/

Callan

17-08-2004, 03:16:PM

I have KB 1 and will be getting KB 2, probably second hand, it's cheaper that way :D

Sir Calumn

17-08-2004, 06:36:PM

Nice LOL. I'll probably save for that too ;)

I doubt KB2 is second hand as its only brand new out. Last time I bought a second hand DVD it was f*cked :(

Callan

17-08-2004, 07:04:PM

I can usually get the new ones x-rental. If they suck i bring them back.

adj137

17-08-2004, 07:44:PM

Has anyone seen the indian movie 'shoola' that thing kicks ass.
im in india rite now and its on tv nonstop all the time.Excpt you have to learn to live with the subtitles

Sir Calumn

17-08-2004, 08:17:PM

I've had bad experiences with X-Rentals, and I dont like the thought of who might have had them before.

I'm cool with subtitles, but I have never seen a Bollywood film which I even remotely enjoyed.

Hakeem

18-08-2004, 11:40:AM

just watched Zatoichi. AWESOME (Y)(Y)(Y) and hilarious :rofl:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurent.bouttaz/zatoichi.jpg

xxxFLYERxxx

18-08-2004, 11:56:AM

movies ive seen lately:

IRobot was lame. 2/5
The Village was a good movie. Very original. 4/5
School of Rock - really liked it. 4.5/5

Favorite movies of all time.

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Swingers - pure genius.
Old School

PhiLLer

18-08-2004, 03:07:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
just watched Zatoichi. AWESOME (Y)(Y)(Y) and hilarious :rofl:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laurent.bouttaz/zatoichi.jpg

I was planning to go see that movie about 2 or 3 months ago when it was in cinemas over here but never got round to it. Must rent it on dvd.

PhiLLer

18-08-2004, 04:39:PM

Also obtained "The Girl Next Door" and watched it last night. Quite a fun movie although I must say that Elisha Cuthbert pretty much carried the entire movie because she's so feckin hot!
It had some pretty standard stuff in it, not very original but a good bit of entertainment.

I am very disapointed I didn't see any full frontal nudity from Elisha, what's the world coming to...:kader: :crazyboy:

Tom

18-08-2004, 06:15:PM

i know what you mean Phil, though tell me you wernt expecting full frontal nudity :( I'll bet you were pretty disapointed if you where, lol.

TROD.

PhiLLer

18-08-2004, 07:34:PM

Hell yeah I was expecting it:p
Elisha is smokin' though isn't she. I thought she was hot when I saw her in 24 season 1 for the first time but she gets better all the time:hump:

Stotty

18-08-2004, 07:41:PM

meh, ya should all go buy finding nemo on dvd (H)

"dont worry, i can speak whale

HHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, CCCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNN YYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUU HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPP P UUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSS?

Hmm,lets try humpback

:rockman: :rockman:

PhiLLer

18-08-2004, 07:42:PM

Shut up, eyebrows:crazyboy:

Stotty

18-08-2004, 07:44:PM

f*ck off ya orish leprechaun f*cker (H)

PhiLLer

18-08-2004, 07:45:PM

yo mama

Hakeem

18-08-2004, 08:04:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Hell yeah I was expecting it:p
Elisha is smokin' though isn't she. I thought she was hot when I saw her in 24 season 1 for the first time but she gets better all the time:hump:

the DVD comes out next week and besides the normal rated R version, there's also an OurRated Version coming out the same day. rumors say that there's a nude with Elisha, though only the top. but those are only rumors and I dont they actually shot a scene with her naked cause if they did then they're terrible stupids not to put it in the theatrical cut. that scene alone would've given them 10mill more in the box office.

anyway, elisha kuthbert's nude scene or not, Im buying :chick: :hump:

PhiLLer

18-08-2004, 09:37:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
the DVD comes out next week and besides the normal rated R version, there's also an OurRated Version coming out the same day. rumors say that there's a nude with Elisha, though only the top. but those are only rumors and I dont they actually shot a scene with her naked cause if they did then they're terrible stupids not to put it in the theatrical cut. that scene alone would've given them 10mill more in the box office.

anyway, elisha kuthbert's nude scene or not, Im buying :chick: :hump:

I downloaded the unrated version, I haven't seen the rated version but in the one I saw there is nudity from the back, she's got a killer body I tell ya. I can't seem to take screenshots from windows media player or real player but if I could I'd post them here

;)

chatterbox

19-08-2004, 01:01:AM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Also obtained "The Girl Next Door" and watched it last night. Quite a fun movie although I must say that Elisha Cuthbert pretty much carried the entire movie because she's so feckin hot!
It had some pretty standard stuff in it, not very original but a good bit of entertainment.

I am very disapointed I didn't see any full frontal nudity from Elisha, what's the world coming to...:kader: :crazyboy:

That is exactly what I said. After watching Old School , I thought that she would go the next level ....unfortunately did not !:(

Sir Calumn

19-08-2004, 05:05:AM

I didnt bother with The Girl Next door because I knew they wouldnt show anything interesting - it wasnt an 18 so the most one could have hoped for would have been a bit of bouncy bouncy but I dont think there was that even.

I saw The Bourne Supremacy today - it's not really my sort of film but I saw the Bourne Identity so I wanted to see this - it wasnt bad, the storyline was interesting and there were some original moments, but the camerawork was just awful. I swear the cameraman had parkinsons, the camera jiggled about even on the straight shots, and the action scenes were just unfollowable with the camera jumping around so much. It was still good though, worth seeing if you saw the Bourne Identity, though if you haven't I would wait til it became available for rental as it's not the sort of film to watch over and over again.

Vagegast

19-08-2004, 05:59:AM

I don't go to movies to see nudity although I have nothing against it (H) (21 Grams :brow: ). I think Elisha Cuthbert was worth my money :hump:

Sir Calumn

19-08-2004, 06:01:AM

Originally posted by Vagegast
I don't go to movies to see nudity although I have nothing against it (H) (21 Grams :brow: ). I think Elisha Cuthbert was worth my money :hump: Well, something tells me THe Girl Next Door wouldnt bowl me over with a great story line or superb acting :P The potential for nudity was about all it had going for it. :p

Hakeem

19-08-2004, 06:07:AM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
I didnt bother with The Girl Next door because I knew they wouldnt show anything interesting - it wasnt an 18 so the most one could have hoped for would have been a bit of bouncy bouncy but I dont think there was that even.

it was rated R which means over 17 or under but with parents. nobody goes to the next one which is N17 cause thats just for teh really hardcore movies showing explicit sex (the dreamers, irreversible, etc).
rated R was ok, and THERE WERE TITS IN IT (H)

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
I saw The Bourne Supremacy today - it's not really my sort of film but I saw the Bourne Identity so I wanted to see this - it wasnt bad, the storyline was interesting and there were some original moments, but the camerawork was just awful. I swear the cameraman had parkinsons, the camera jiggled about even on the straight shots, and the action scenes were just unfollowable with the camera jumping around so much. It was still good though, worth seeing if you saw the Bourne Identity, though if you haven't I would wait til it became available for rental as it's not the sort of film to watch over and over again.

I loved the Bourne Supremacy. and yeah, the camera work has been talked a lot here cause it was shot with a digital handheld camera and lots of people had problems with it.
I didnt care for it, and the only scene in which it bothered me was in the fight in the house. other than that it was ok (Y)

Sir Calumn

19-08-2004, 09:03:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
it was rated R which means over 17 or under but with parents. nobody goes to the next one which is N17 cause thats just for teh really hardcore movies showing explicit sex (the dreamers, irreversible, etc).
rated R was ok, and THERE WERE TITS IN IT (H) Damn, I wish I'd seen it :( In England it was only a 15 (15 years old or over)

Originally posted by Hakeem

I loved the Bourne Supremacy. and yeah, the camera work has been talked a lot here cause it was shot with a digital handheld camera and lots of people had problems with it.
I didnt care for it, and the only scene in which it bothered me was in the fight in the house. other than that it was ok (Y) Ah, I thought it must have been something like that. It really was very wobbly, even on the stills. But I agree, Bourne Supremacy was much better than the average action film.

PhiLLer

19-08-2004, 09:39:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
I loved the Bourne Supremacy. and yeah, the camera work has been talked a lot here cause it was shot with a digital handheld camera and lots of people had problems with it.
I didnt care for it, and the only scene in which it bothered me was in the fight in the house. other than that it was ok (Y)

Filming on digital handheld obviously was used to add more inteisity to the movie but there's a fine line where it either grips the audience or just puts people off watching because it gets annoying.
The only film/series where (digital) handheld was used and it worked 100% excellent is "24". A lot of scenes are shot on handheld to add intensity and it workes like a charm!

Sir Calumn

19-08-2004, 09:51:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Filming on digital handheld obviously was used to add more inteisity to the movie but there's a fine line where it either grips the audience or just puts people off watching because it gets annoying.
The only film/series where (digital) handheld was used and it worked 100% excellent is "24". A lot of scenes are shot on handheld to add intensity and it workes like a charm! I am still to see 24, I will buy the boxed set soon I swear :p

I can see why they used handheld for the action sequences of The Bourne Supremacy, but it was very uncontrolled and in many cases made it quite hard to follow what was going on, it almost seemed like a cop out from doing proper action scenes, and the car chases actually left me with a headache - though that might have been cos my brother insisted on sitting 3 rows from the front - stupid bastard :p

Hakeem

20-08-2004, 10:58:AM

Collateral was perfectly shot on a handheld digital camera too (Y)

rony31

20-08-2004, 11:01:AM

I watched Bourne Supremacy and Collateral... Bourne Supremacy overdid the shaking, I couldnt see **** during the fight scenes... by the end I'd be like "ok, so how'd he knock him out?"

Collateral was ****in great, everything was filmed amazingly (Y)

Vagegast

20-08-2004, 12:09:PM

"The Days" on ABC is shot on digital hand-held too. Hardly notice it.

PhiLLer

20-08-2004, 06:59:PM

I defenitely want to see Collateral!

Sir Calumn

21-08-2004, 02:29:AM

Originally posted by rony31
I watched Bourne Supremacy and Collateral... Bourne Supremacy overdid the shaking, I couldnt see **** during the fight scenes... by the end I'd be like "ok, so how'd he knock him out?" My thoughts exactly :)

I saw the trailer for Collateral the other day, it looked to me as if it could be good or could be sh!te, but from what you guys are saying I will go and see it for sure :)

chatterbox

21-08-2004, 07:07:AM

The Bourne Supremacy was awesome ! I think it is the best movie I have seen along with LOT Return of the King and Spiderman 2......AWESOME>>>>>> I will be buying the DVD for sure so I can watch it over and over again.....great stuff indeed !

rony31

21-08-2004, 01:47:PM

10 Things I Hate About You :rockman:

I was watching that the other day... quite funny :(

Sir Calumn

21-08-2004, 06:18:PM

Originally posted by chatterbox
The Bourne Supremacy was awesome ! I think it is the best movie I have seen along with LOT Return of the King and Spiderman 2......AWESOME>>>>>> I will be buying the DVD for sure so I can watch it over and over again.....great stuff indeed ! Have you only started watching films in the last year or something? :p If you think those are that good, you should watch some of the stuff on my favourite list, then go back and see how good they are.

Originally posted by rony31
10 Things I Hate About You Sounds awful :)

Hakeem

22-08-2004, 03:35:AM

I liked 10 Things I Hate About You.

Julia Stiles acting is kinda not so good there, and it has a few stupid situations, but after all, its a teen comedy (Y)

rpvankasteren

22-08-2004, 04:17:AM

It's kind of the first teen movie of the current generation. It's by far the best as well. Not so much the focus on sexuality, more friendship and deception. Far more interesting subjects.

Callan

22-08-2004, 09:10:AM

I dislike teen movies genrally speaking.

Mission Imposible was on last night.... I hadn't seen that in so damn long.

Sir Calumn

22-08-2004, 10:38:PM

I can't stand Teen Movies, sperm jokes, ha ha their funny :| My brother watches them and it drives me mad.

Mission Impossible 1 is a good film, so much better than MI2 which was a bit of a let down in my opinion. MI1 has an air of originality about it which many spy films lack.

Last night on Channel 4 they showed a film called The Score - it was excellent. Marlon Brando was in it, but not too good, the character he played was too normal, but Robert DeNiro was great as always and there was an absolutely stunning performace from an actor I'd never seen before called Edward Norton, I would like to see him in action in something else. Therefore, can anyone recommend be a good Edward Norton film? The Score had a very intriguing storyline and it was totally gripping in the second half, I am going to buy the DVD, I strongly recommend it to any fan of intelligent, well acted action/crime films.

Virgo

22-08-2004, 10:45:PM

you don't know Edward Norton? :f***: :f***: :f***: :f***:

His best films by order of :hump:

Fight Club
American History X
25th Hour
Primal Fear
Rounders
The People vs. Larry Flynt
Red Dragon
Keeping the Faith
The Italian Job

Everyone Says I Love You is ok too I guess if you are into musicals which I'm not although I'm a fan of Woody Allen

PhiLLer

22-08-2004, 10:46:PM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
Last night on Channel 4 they showed a film called The Score - it was excellent. Marlon Brando was in it, but not too good, the character he played was too normal, but Robert DeNiro was great as always and there was an absolutely stunning performace from an actor I'd never seen before called Edward Norton, I would like to see him in action in something else. Therefore, can anyone recommend be a good Edward Norton film? The Score had a very intriguing storyline and it was totally gripping in the second half, I am going to buy the DVD, I strongly recommend it to any fan of intelligent, well acted action/crime films.

Yup, The Score is a good film, saw it about a year ago or so. Edward Norton is a very good actor one of his first movies was Primal Fear which also starred Richard Gere as a lawyer and Ed Norton plays a choir boy accused of killing the priest, great acting on Norton's part.
Then there's American History X and 25th Hour is another good Norton film. Of course Fight Club, can't miss out on that great movie!

Tom

22-08-2004, 10:49:PM

i love Ten Things i hate about you, i hate all other teen movies but love that one, i mean come on, Julia Stiles and Larissa Olneyik

TROD.

Tom

22-08-2004, 10:50:PM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
an absolutely stunning performace from an actor I'd never seen before called Edward Norton, I would like to see him in action in something else.

go watch Italian Job, you'll soon take that comment back.

TROD.

Sir Calumn

22-08-2004, 10:52:PM

Originally posted by Virgo
you don't know Edward Norton? :f***: :f***: :f***: :f***:

His best films by order of :hump:

Fight Club
American History X
25th Hour
Primal Fear
Rounders
The People vs. Larry Flynt
Red Dragon
Keeping the Faith
The Italian Job

Everyone Says I Love You is ok too I guess if you are into musicals which I'm not although I'm a fan of Woody Allen Of course!!! Fight Club! I was trying to remember where I'd seen him before. I love that film, havent seen it in a while though. I must see Red Dragan, I loved the other two Hannibal Lector films. I've seen American History X, but didnt like it enough to take any interest in who the actors were, and I refuse to watch the enw Italian Job out of prinicple, but I will look up the others, thanx.

Tom

22-08-2004, 10:54:PM

good to see italian job at the bottom virgo.

oh, and keeping the faith is a trully awful comedy

TROD.

Sir Calumn

22-08-2004, 10:54:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Yup, The Score is a good film, saw it about a year ago or so. Edward Norton is a very good actor one of his first movies was Primal Fear which also starred Richard Gere as a lawyer and Ed Norton plays a choir boy accused of killing the priest, great acting on Norton's part.
Cool, I'll definately look that out, as I am a big fan of Richard Gere aswell.

Hakeem

23-08-2004, 12:42:AM

1- Primal Fear (2)
2- American History X (5)
3- Fight Club (1)
4- 25th Hour (4)
5- Rounders (3)

I would put them in that order FOR Edward Norton performances. Fight Club was more coolness from the movie and brad pitt than his performance though it was excellent too.
the (#) is the order of my favoritism for the movies.
Edward Norton is one of my favorite actors. all his movies are great with those 5 up there being EXCELLENT.

his performance in The Italian Job is a little bit overacted combined with some not good comedic acting (:/) but the mvie was very entertaining IMO.

I saw Keeping the Faith a few times years ago and I loved it. Ive always loved Jenna Elfman (Dharma & Greg) so having her and Norton, and Ben Stiller was great. (Y)

hanek45

23-08-2004, 12:49:AM

Edward Norton is great actor (Y)

I like him alot (Y)

Sir Calumn

23-08-2004, 01:27:AM

Originally posted by Hakeem
1- Primal Fear (2)
2- American History X (5)
3- Fight Club (1)
4- 25th Hour (4)
5- Rounders (3)

I would put them in that order FOR Edward Norton performances. Fight Club was more coolness from the movie and brad pitt than his performance though it was excellent too.
the (#) is the order of my favoritism for the movies.
Edward Norton is one of my favorite actors. all his movies are great with those 5 up there being EXCELLENT.

his performance in The Italian Job is a little bit overacted combined with some not good comedic acting (:/) but the mvie was very entertaining IMO.

I saw Keeping the Faith a few times years ago and I loved it. Ive always loved Jenna Elfman (Dharma & Greg) so having her and Norton, and Ben Stiller was great. (Y) OK cool I'll check em out, could you possibly summerise the plot of Primal Fear if you've got time?

PhiLLer

23-08-2004, 01:48:AM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
OK cool I'll check em out, could you possibly summerise the plot of Primal Fear if you've got time?

That's the basic plot.

Courtroom thriller about a slick, hotshot lawyer (Richard Gere) who takes the seemingly unwinnable case of a young altar boy (Edward Norton) accused of murdering an eminent catholic priest.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117381/

Hakeem

23-08-2004, 02:02:AM

please dont go to IMDB. the comments there are full of spoilers and if you read about it then it'll take away all the fun.

dont read anything, just watch it ;) :)

Limberopoulos21

23-08-2004, 03:11:AM

My 10 fav films no order

Death wish
Rocky I, V
Godfather 1, 2
Dumb and Dumber
Wayne's World
Spaceballs
The Matrix 1,2 (2 for special effects and that's it)

Sir Calumn

23-08-2004, 03:31:AM

KK, thanx Hakeem and Phil, I will watch it as soon as I get the chance. This thread is great lol, I've already watched two great films I would never normally have watched because of recommendations in this thread and hopefully this'll be a third. Thanx everyone :)

Interesting list, Limberapolous, a bit too much mainstream though I fear. Good choice with Godfather though (Y)

Virgo

23-08-2004, 06:51:AM

Originally posted by TROD
good to see italian job at the bottom virgo.

oh, and keeping the faith is a trully awful comedy

TROD.

I kinda liked Keeping The Faith, nothing special but I thought it was a fairly original entry on the romantic comedy genre.

Much better than trash that has been coming out featuring guys like Freddie Prinze Jr. and other poor excuses for actors like him.

About The Italian Job I think Edward Norton was kind of a miscast there, he would have done a much better job as Charlie Croker and might have saved the whole movie. Mark Wahlberg (N)
Anyway it's watchable and Charlize Theron is the most beautiful thing I've seen in my life.

Remind you that not every movie intends to be a masterpiece, these two are just supposed to be quality entertainment and they achieve their goal.

Tom

23-08-2004, 06:55:AM

i kind of agree with you virgo, keeping the faith was.... an original idea i suppose

and true Ed Norton would have been better cast as Charlie, even though i think The Italian Job would have still sunk

TROD.

Callan

23-08-2004, 12:48:PM

The Italian job was bad either way.

Bonzi

23-08-2004, 01:24:PM

i like british films. such as "lock, stock and two smoking barrels" and "snatch".

Vagegast

23-08-2004, 02:48:PM

Snatch was off the hook! (H)

http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif
"Dags?" :D

Tom

23-08-2004, 06:44:PM

Originally posted by Callan
The Italian job was bad either way.

twas, but the original was fantastic.

TROD.

Virgo

23-08-2004, 11:59:PM

Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is sick :rockman:

Absolutely brilliant script, great characters, very fast paced, it's probably the closest to Pulp Fiction I've seen in terms of excitement and dark humour.

it's one of my favourite movies and I even can't understand half of what they're saying (too much slang).

Bonzi

24-08-2004, 12:12:AM

Originally posted by Virgo
I even can't understand half of what they're saying (too much slang).
me too:D

PhiLLer

24-08-2004, 12:21:AM

Both Lock Stock and Snatch are great movies, Vinnie Jones is class:D

Limberopoulos21

24-08-2004, 03:39:AM

Originally posted by Vagegast
Snatch was off the hook! (H)

http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif
"Dags?" :D
t
digs? you know dags? Ohh you mean dogs! That was great, but I didn't like the rest that much. Another great movie I forgot to mention was the deer hunter. Starring De Niro, Streep, Walkins. Great movie, it's about the war in Nam. The russian roulette scene is the highlight I think.

PhiLLer

24-08-2004, 04:02:AM

Over the weekend I watched two movies with a mate of mine (on DVD). First we rented Ripley's Game, the follow up to The Talented Mr. Ripley. The sequel stars lesser known actors with John Malkovich and Dougray Scott (MI2 bad buy) being the only two I'd heard off.
Overall a very weak movie, a terrible attempt to cash in on the original, don't know why Malkovich even decided to act in it...

Second movie we watched was Van Wilder Party Liason. It's your average teen movie though we just wanted a movie where you could just sit back and laugh at the stupid jokes, it certainly didn't disapoint in that department. It features your average "teen comedy characters" such as a guy with a monobrow (no, not nick:p), the hot chick, an exchange student from india, some geeky guys, the lame boyfriend of the hot chick. Pretty entertaining and funny I thought.

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 05:55:AM

Originally posted by Virgo
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is sick :rockman:

Absolutely brilliant script, great characters, very fast paced, it's probably the closest to Pulp Fiction I've seen in terms of excitement and dark humour.

it's one of my favourite movies and I even can't understand half of what they're saying (too much slang).

I do like them alot, they're some of the best British films. The acting isnt great but the storylines are very good and they are thoroughly enjoyable, and being a Norfolkian (which aint far from London) I understand all the slang. I definately wouldnt put them anywhere near Pulp Fiction standard, but damn good films nevertheless.

Originally posted by Limberopoulos21
t
digs? you know dags? Ohh you mean dogs! That was great, but I didn't like the rest that much. Another great movie I forgot to mention was the deer hunter. Starring De Niro, Streep, Walkins. Great movie, it's about the war in Nam. The russian roulette scene is the highlight I think.

Of course lol, a legendary film. If you look at my top 20 you'll see it there. It's flawed in ways, the actual directing is not excellent to be honest and the plot could be improved, but the acting is awesome and it is so moving, it's the only film to make me cry apart from Bambi, and I was 3 when I saw Bambi as opposed to 13 when I saw Deer Hunter the first time.

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Over the weekend I watched two movies with a mate of mine (on DVD). First we rented Ripley's Game, the follow up to The Talented Mr. Ripley. The sequel stars lesser known actors with John Malkovich and Dougray Scott (MI2 bad buy) being the only two I'd heard off.
Overall a very weak movie, a terrible attempt to cash in on the original, don't know why Malkovich even decided to act in it...

Second movie we watched was Van Wilder Party Liason. It's your average teen movie though we just wanted a movie where you could just sit back and laugh at the stupid jokes, it certainly didn't disapoint in that department. It features your average "teen comedy characters" such as a guy with a monobrow (no, not nick:p), the hot chick, an exchange student from india, some geeky guys, the lame boyfriend of the hot chick. Pretty entertaining and funny I thought. The first one I would watch just for John Malkovic, that man is a legend, even if the film wasnt so good. Have you seen Being John Malkovic? You wouldnt expect it to be good perhaps but it is actually excellent. The second I wouldnt even consider, I cant stand Teen Movies. I bought a few new DVDs today, but someone gave me the Python boxed set so they'll be keeping me occupied for now, but when I watch the new ones I got I'll post my opinions on them here.

Hakeem

24-08-2004, 06:17:AM

Monty Python or Python the horror movie? cause Ive heard that one is pretty horrible.

about Philler's movies:

Ripley's Game they actually did it direct for cable. they made it in australia (I think I read) and here in the states they showed it directly on the IFC (independent film channel).
and yeah, its not good at all. I love John Malkovich. "Being John Malkovich" is a must see as "Rounders" when he plays the mad russian competing against Matt Damon at poker. awesome movie.

Van Wilder is pretty good too. the indian guy is Kumar from Harold & Kumar go to white castle.
the masturbating dog scene is hilarious and pretty awful at the same time :p

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:21:AM

Originally posted by Hakeem
Monty Python or Python the horror movie? cause Ive heard that one is pretty horrible. The legendary Monty Python films, funniest films ever made.

Originally posted by Hakeem

about Philler's movies:

Ripley's Game they actually did it direct for cable. they made it in australia (I think I read) and here in the states they showed it directly on the IFC (independent film channel).
and yeah, its not good at all. I love John Malkovich. "Being John Malkovich" is a must see as "Rounders" when he plays the mad russian competing against Matt Damon at poker. awesome movie. Yeah man, Rounders is a legendary film. John Malkovic is just awesome, prob in my top 10 actors.

Originally posted by Hakeem

Van Wilder is pretty good too. the indian guy is Kumar from Harold & Kumar go to white castle.
the masturbating dog scene is hilarious and pretty awful at the same time :p God, a masturbating dog, sounds like my worst nightmare of teen film sh!t. I watched a bit of a teen film recently, only about 10 mins, it was like constant sperm jokes. Pathetic :kader:

Hakeem

24-08-2004, 06:33:AM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
The legendary Monty Python films, funniest films ever made.

yep. them and The Holy Grail is definetly in my top3 favorite comedies of all times. non-stop laughs

http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/HolyGrail/jpgs/13-headk.jpg

[spooky music]
[music stops]
HEAD KNIGHT OF NI:
Ni!
KNIGHTS OF NI:
Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!
ARTHUR:
Who are you?
HEAD KNIGHT:
We are the Knights Who Say... 'Ni'!
RANDOM:
Ni!
ARTHUR:
No! Not the Knights Who Say 'Ni'!
HEAD KNIGHT:
The same!
BEDEVERE:
Who are they?
HEAD KNIGHT:
We are the keepers of the sacred words: 'Ni', 'Peng', and 'Neee-wom'!
RANDOM:
Neee-wom!
ARTHUR:
Those who hear them seldom live to tell the tale.
HEAD KNIGHT:
The Knights Who Say 'Ni' demand a sacrifice.
ARTHUR:
Knights of Ni, we are but simple travellers who seek the enchanter who lives beyond these woods.
HEAD KNIGHT:
Ni!
KNIGHTS OF NI:
Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!...
ARTHUR:
Ow! Ow! Ow! Agh!
HEAD KNIGHT:
We shall say 'ni' again to you if you do not appease us.
ARTHUR:
Well, what is it you want?
HEAD KNIGHT:
We want... a shrubbery!
[dramatic chord]
ARTHUR:
A what?
KNIGHTS OF NI:
Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!
ARTHUR and PARTY:
Ow! Oh!
ARTHUR:
Please! Please! No more! We will find you a shrubbery.
HEAD KNIGHT:
You must return here with a shrubbery, or else, you will never pass through this wood... alive.
ARTHUR:
O Knights of Ni, you are just and fair, and we will return with a shrubbery.
HEAD KNIGHT:
One that looks nice.
ARTHUR:
Of course.
HEAD KNIGHT:
And not too expensive.
ARTHUR:
Yes.
HEAD KNIGHT:
Now... go!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:35:AM

Originally posted by Hakeem
yep. them and The Holy Grail is definetly in my top3 favorite comedies of all times. non-stop laughs

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Yeah, it's truely brilliant. Have you seen any other Python films? The Life of Brian is even batter than The Holy Grail. Just awesome.

Hakeem

24-08-2004, 06:37:AM

yes. I like Life of Brian, but the problem is that I watched it dubbed to spanish a long time ago.
I actually bought the DVD a few months ago and I watched it and I had to stop like 20 minutes into it. the freaking DVD didnt have any subtitles and I couldnt understand a word :(

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:39:AM

Originally posted by Hakeem
yes. I like Life of Brian, but the problem is that I watched it dubbed to spanish a long time ago.
I actually bought the DVD a few months ago and I watched it and I had to stop like 20 minutes into it. the freaking DVD didnt have any subtitles and I couldnt understand a word :( It's worth getting the English version for sure, probably THE best comedy of all time.

Virgo

24-08-2004, 06:53:AM

best comedy of all time hands down:

Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

by Mr. Stanley Kubrick

:Bow:

Btw have you guys seen The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? It's a true masterpiece and the best movie I've seen this year by far. Wonder if it will go to the oscars as it is a bit far fetched.

Hakeem

24-08-2004, 06:58:AM

Originally posted by Virgo
Btw have you guys seen The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? It's a true masterpiece and the best movie I've seen this year by far.

yes it is a masterpiece. its my number one of the year as well as Kill Bill 2 (Y)

and yeah, I beleive they'll give Kauffman the oscar this year. they already overlooked him with Being John Malkovich and Adaptation but third time is the charm and he's getting it this year hopefully :)

Bonzi

24-08-2004, 09:39:AM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
The legendary Monty Python films, funniest films ever made.
it is fun, but sometimes there is a special humor, which can understand only englishmen.

Callan

24-08-2004, 03:25:PM

I have the Monty Python Box set... that has some stand up thing on it (i think) and two other films.

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:02:PM

Originally posted by Callan
I have the Monty Python Box set... that has some stand up thing on it (i think) and two other films. I expect it's the one I have with the four films - two of which are collections of sketches and two of which are full length films.

Originally posted by Bonzi

it is fun, but sometimes there is a special humor, which can understand only englishmen.

That's true, we English have the best sense of humour in the world.

Originally posted by Bonzi

yes it is a masterpiece. its my number one of the year as well as Kill Bill 2

and yeah, I beleive they'll give Kauffman the oscar this year. they already overlooked him with Being John Malkovich and Adaptation but third time is the charm and he's getting it this year hopefully. Sorry, if Tarantino get's cheated out of another oscar I will personally nuke Beverly Hills. Kill Bill 1 was marginally better, but Kill Bill 2 definately deserved best picture and best director this year. I havent seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but I dont think it would be technically possible for it to rise above Kill Bill 2 in my estimation.

PhiLLer

24-08-2004, 06:33:PM

I do like the odd teen movie. You can just sit back, chill out, freeze your brain for a while and laugh a stupid jokes, nothing wrong with that. :p

Quite a few people have mentioned "Rounders" here, so is it any good?
Can someone give me some info on it (plot etc.). Thanks.

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:37:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
I do like the odd teen movie. You can just sit back, chill out, freeze your brain for a while and laugh a stupid jokes, nothing wrong with that. :p

Quite a few people have mentioned "Rounders" here, so is it any good?
Can someone give me some info on it (plot etc.). Thanks. You can read about Rounders here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128442/usercomments It's a very good film with an excellent performance by the great John Malkovic, aswell as a good performance from Edward Norton and a mediocre performance from Matt Damon. Worth seeing for sure.

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:39:PM

Sorry, imdb is the thing Hakeem said not to use. Here's the blurb from the back, it give you a good idea without spoiling the story:

Set against the backdrop of New York's high-stakes underground poker world. Mike McDermott, a master card player who trades the poker playing rounds for law school and a shot at a new life with his girlfriend. For Mike, the new life he is staking out seems to be a legitimate road to success, but it is short on thrills and excitement of backroom poker games. When his friend is released from prison, Mike is faced with the high-stakes dilemma of his life.

Virgo

24-08-2004, 06:55:PM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
Sorry, if Tarantino get's cheated out of another oscar I will personally nuke Beverly Hills. Kill Bill 1 was marginally better, but Kill Bill 2 definately deserved best picture and best director this year. I havent seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, but I dont think it would be technically possible for it to rise above Kill Bill 2 in my estimation.

It is amazingly well directed and much better written than either Kill Bill and this is from an hardcore Tarantino fan.

The Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind is just one of the best movies... EVER

When I walked out of the cinema i was literally shivering and with tears in my eyes. It's certainly one of the most beautiful movies I've seen.

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 06:58:PM

Originally posted by Virgo
It is amazingly well directed and much better written than either Kill Bill and this is from an hardcore Tarantino fan.

The Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind is just one of the best movies... EVER Maybe, but Kill Bill is THE best film ever :p I will check it out though, with all you guys praising it it must be worth watching.

Virgo

24-08-2004, 07:01:PM

Kill Bill is the best B movie ever :p

I liked it a lot but it's style over substance all the way.

Sir Calumn

24-08-2004, 07:10:PM

Originally posted by Virgo
Kill Bill is the best B movie ever :p

I liked it a lot but it's style over substance all the way. Hardly a B film, but done in B film style. The best B film ever is From Dusk Till Dawn - absolutely awesome. The two Kill Bill's together are just tremendous though, an epic and genius story which is amazingly enjoyable, well acted and just plain brilliant. Tom may still have a copy of my 20 reasons why Kill Bill is the best film ever :p I hope so cos I cant be arsed to write them out again.

Hakeem

24-08-2004, 08:43:PM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
Sorry, imdb is the thing Hakeem said not to use.

you can check it ofcourse. I use it to read the casting of the movies and all that, but the people that post comments about the movies there are all idiots bashing it. they dont care what movie it is, they just trash for one reason or the other (N)

and Philler, I'd also love for Tarantino to take everything, or some reason I think they wont give kill bill a chance :(

PhiLLer

24-08-2004, 08:57:PM

I don't think Kill Bill will even be nominated for an Oscar, typical because KB deserves a couple of Oscars!

Limberopoulos21

24-08-2004, 09:02:PM

I don't like taratino movies that much, too violent for my taste. Kill Bill being the worst for me, she kills like 200 japs. I don't like films that have too many people killed.

Tom

24-08-2004, 09:12:PM

i use IMDB a lot, but i only use it for cast lists etc. I form my own opinions thanks

I dont care what you say Calumn, Kill Bill isnt the best movie ever

TROD.

PhiLLer

24-08-2004, 09:43:PM

Yeah I never read the IMDB user comments but it's great for cast list, info and plot summary.

Tom

25-08-2004, 12:36:AM

completly agree, also i love the 'goofs' 'trivia' parts

TROD.

Sir Calumn

25-08-2004, 05:35:AM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
I don't think Kill Bill will even be nominated for an Oscar, typical because KB deserves a couple of Oscars! It would be a crime if it didnt.

Originally posted by Limberopoulos21
I don't like taratino movies that much, too violent for my taste. Kill Bill being the worst for me, she kills like 200 japs. I don't like films that have too many people killed.

The violence is just one thing which is so great about them!

Originally posted by TROD
i use IMDB a lot, but i only use it for cast lists etc. I form my own opinions thanks

I dont care what you say Calumn, Kill Bill isnt the best movie ever

TROD. You say that, but whenever I ask you, you can never name one film you've seen which you thought was better.

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Yeah I never read the IMDB user comments but it's great for cast list, info and plot summary.

I dont need IMDB to suggest films, I've got you guys :p

Virgo

25-08-2004, 05:40:AM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
You say that, but whenever I ask you, you can never name one film you've seen which you thought was better.

Well I can name like one hundred

Sir Calumn

25-08-2004, 05:43:AM

I just bought a DVD called Killing Zoe and watched it tonight. The executive producer is Quentin Tarantino, obviously that means sh!t as the exec producer is pretty much an honourary title, but the direct is Roger Avary who worked with Tarantino on Pulp Fiction, so I thought it worth checking out. Stuff not directed by Quentin but with involvement from him or his crowd are a bit hit and miss, some are excellent (From Dusk Till Dawn) and sum sh!te (Natural Born Killers). The basic plot of Killing Zoe was two old criminal friends getting together for a big bank job. One was a gang leader, the other a safe breaker. However, before the job, the safe breaker (played by Eric Stoltz) hired a prostitute which he fell in love with. She mentioned a part time job, which happened to be at the bank he was going to rob, though he didnt know that. Then, following a night of drugs and booze, they go for the job, which I dont want to spoil for you, but lets just say doesnt go 100% according to plan. While certain aspects of the film were weak - it failed in hiest film rule number 1, always make sure the plan is know in full detail by the audience - there were moments of pure genius and the psycological building of the gang, so professional yet so amateur, and a bit of horrific violence and twisted humour thrown in, made this an excellent film and one I highly recommend to anyone who can take something a bit surreal.

Sorry for such a long and poorly written post, I'm damn tired.

Sir Calumn

25-08-2004, 05:46:AM

Originally posted by Virgo
Well I can name like one hundred Everyone has different tastes :)

Hakeem

25-08-2004, 07:06:AM

I havent seen Killing Zoe but Ive heard that its pretty good. Ill probably check it if I see it in cable (Y)

and yeah, Tarantino does "support" various movies and I pretty much like them all: True Romance, Natural Born Killers (why didnt you like it? :confused: and From Dusk Till Dawn.

Four Rooms (starring Tim Roth and million others) its a pretty weird comedy and I have mixed feellings about it but other than that his stuff is always great (Y)

Virgo

25-08-2004, 07:41:AM

I saw Natural Born Killers yesterday and it's a mess.

Tarantino just came up with the story of the film, he had no other influence on the movie whatsoever and he didn't even wrote the script or anything

I had heard that he didn't like what they did with it and I could understand why.

Oliver Stone tries hard to make a film full of symbolism David Lynch's style but he fails miserably.

PhiLLer

25-08-2004, 05:39:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
Four Rooms (starring Tim Roth and million others) its a pretty weird comedy and I have mixed feellings about it but other than that his stuff is always great (Y)

Four Rooms was a pretty odd film. Consisting of four chapters each directed by a different director (Tarantino and Robert Rodrigues. I forget the other two directors) and that's pretty unique already but the movie is kinda strange I wasn't too keen on it.

Sir Calumn

25-08-2004, 06:13:PM

These are all the films which Tarantino influenced (but didnt direct) that I've seen with a rating out of 5:

Killing Zoe 4/5
From Dusk Till Dawn 5/5
Desperado 3/5
Natural Born Killers 1/5
True Romance 2/5
Four Rooms 3/5
Curdled 2/5
Little Nicky 3/5
Episode of ER 1/5 (I hate ER)

Originally posted by Hakeem
I havent seen Killing Zoe but Ive heard that its pretty good. Ill probably check it if I see it in cable (Y)

and yeah, Tarantino does "support" various movies and I pretty much like them all: True Romance, Natural Born Killers (why didnt you like it? :confused: and From Dusk Till Dawn.

Four Rooms (starring Tim Roth and million others) its a pretty weird comedy and I have mixed feellings about it but other than that his stuff is always great (Y) Natural Born Killers was a wonderful screenplay, butchered totally by Oliver Stone who is just an arrogant dick. Look for the Natural Born Killers draft screenplay on the net, if you read it you will see the potential thats there. The whole Surrealism effect that Stone tried for just didnt work. There were good elements, it was great to see Jack Skegnetti (the parole officer repeatedly mentioned in Reservoir Dogs) and the prison warden was pretty cool but all in all it was a waste.

Originally posted by Virgo
I saw Natural Born Killers yesterday and it's a mess.

Tarantino just came up with the story of the film, he had no other influence on the movie whatsoever and he didn't even wrote the script or anything

I had heard that he didn't like what they did with it and I could understand why.

Oliver Stone tries hard to make a film full of symbolism David Lynch's style but he fails miserably. Tarantino did write the initial draft of the screenplay, he never actualy wrote it as a story, but it was then adapted after he sold it (for less than the price of a new car).

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Four Rooms was a pretty odd film. Consisting of four chapters each directed by a different director (Tarantino and Robert Rodrigues. I forget the other two directors) and that's pretty unique already but the movie is kinda strange I wasn't too keen on it. Four Rooms is a good little film, nothing special but quite funny, and interestingly, the Tarantino and Rodriguez Rooms are not really any better than those of the two lesser known directors (who were Allison Anders and Alexandre Rockwell if you're interested). I believe it was an attempt by Tarantino and Rodriguez, who were already well established at this time, to launch the careers of the two other directors whom they had befriended, but never really paid off as Anders never directed another mainstream film and Rockwell did only one, an ok but rather plain film called In The Soup, with good performances from Steve Buscemi and Jim Jarmusch.

PhiLLer

25-08-2004, 08:16:PM

One movie I defenitely want to watch is "Hero", a chinese movie staring Jet Li, doing what he does best: proper martial arts.
The movie is presented by Quentin Tarantino (ie. he's given his support to the movie and is some sort of executive producer). I think the original was released in 2002 but now it's being re-released for the US and European market.

It looks absolutely stunning, the choreography, the fight scenes, everything looks amazing. The story is basically that Jet Li has to revenge the death of his people by some other guy's army, typical martial arts story but this film looks special.

Take a look at the trailer!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/hero/

Sir Calumn

25-08-2004, 08:20:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
One movie I defenitely want to watch is "Hero", a chinese movie staring Jet Li, doing what he does best: proper martial arts.
The movie is presented by Quentin Tarantino (ie. he's given his support to the movie and is some sort of executive producer). I think the original was released in 2002 but now it's being re-released for the US and European market.

It looks absolutely stunning, the choreography, the fight scenes, everything looks amazing. The story is basically that Jet Li has to revenge the death of his people by some other guy's army, typical martial arts story but this film looks special.

Take a look at the trailer!
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/hero/ I will look at the trailer. I have never really liked Martial Arts films, though most of the one's I've seen probably werent proper Martial Arts, but I have watched many a program where Quentin has given his opinions on Martial Arts films, along with clips from his favs, and they all look great, and as I trust Tarantino's opinion 100% I will see it for sure.

Could anyone tell me about the Jap film Infernal Affairs? I saw it reviewed on Newsnight and it looked pretty good, but then someone told me it was just another crappy martial arts film which no-one bar a chink could understand, is it worth seeing?

leungtl

25-08-2004, 09:23:PM

Virgo

25-08-2004, 11:20:PM

Tom

26-08-2004, 01:26:AM

bloody hell, Jet Li, do something different for gods sake man

TROD.

Hakeem

26-08-2004, 04:17:AM

Hero was actually nominated for an Oscar for foreign language film on 2002 and never got released here in the US until now. and yeah, Tarantino had to step up and "present" the movie cause Miramax didnt want to release it.
and I think Tarantino is not an exec producer or anything, its just a marketing thing so people think he's involved (:/)

but yeah, the movie looks awesome. I love the scene in the trailer when all the archers release the arrows into the town and there are like a million arrows that are probably going to kill everybody there (Y)(Y)(Y)

PhiLLer

26-08-2004, 06:10:AM

Originally posted by TROD
bloody hell, Jet Li, do something different for gods sake man

TROD.

What's he supposed to do? Romantic Comedy?
Martial Arts is what Jet Li is good at so that's what he should stick to. You don't see Sarah Jessica Parker doing martial arts either do you?

Tom

26-08-2004, 06:16:AM

i didnt say i liked Sarah Jessica Parker though, personally i think actors should act in different roles, not just the same one. If they do the same thing week in week out they shouldnt be called an actor

I would call Jet Li a martial arts specialist, maybe you would, but lots would call him an actor, i dont believe he is an actor.

TROD.

PhiLLer

26-08-2004, 06:41:AM

Originally posted by TROD
i didnt say i liked Sarah Jessica Parker though, personally i think actors should act in different roles, not just the same one. If they do the same thing week in week out they shouldnt be called an actor

I would call Jet Li a martial arts specialist, maybe you would, but lots would call him an actor, i dont believe he is an actor.

TROD.

I never said that you said that you liked Sarah Jessica Parker...:p

I take your point that actors should act in different roles but there's different types of actors. Some are only cast in specific films such as Jet Li in martial arts films because he is a martial arts expert, Ben Stiller in comedies because he's a comedian, the list goes on. You could argue that only a handful of actors have acted in really diverse genres. The ones that haven't doesn't mean that they are lesser actors, they are just being used for what they do best.

I couldn't imagine Jet Li playing in a RomCom or Ben Stiller playing an Schwarzenegger type action hero.

Tom

26-08-2004, 06:43:AM

no but you see where im coming from Phil, also i think Ben Stiller has done some stuff that isnt comedy, i THINK. lol

I just think that actors are poor if they dont try to do different ranges of movies, people such as Michael Caine have done so many different kinds that they are a master of all genres.

TROD.

PhiLLer

26-08-2004, 06:47:AM

True, to a certain extend you're right but some actors just don't suit certain parts, if that were the case there would be no need for casting people, anyone could just pick a bunch of actors ;)

Tom

26-08-2004, 06:49:AM

meh good point, i suppose actors do have their specialist fields, i still dont think Jet Li is an 'actor' :p :p

TROD.

PhiLLer

26-08-2004, 06:51:AM

Ahh...:D :crazyboy:

Tom

26-08-2004, 06:53:AM

lmao! class! :D :D :D

I love Austin Powers movies, absolute class

TROD.

Sir Calumn

26-08-2004, 06:30:PM

Originally posted by Virgo
I saw Hero like 7 or 8 months ago and I was all hyped up like you are but I was kind of disappointed with it. If you didn't like Crouching Tiger very much you'll probably hate this.

I hated Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragan - I bought the DVD and I think it is probably my least favourite DVD in my entire collection, so maybe I wont like Hero.

On the subject of actors in different roles, I agree that each actor should have a different range of parts to play, but then, Jet Li's pretty much only selling card is his martial arts ability so it's really no surprise that's where he's always cast. For the wages you'd have to pay him, I'm sure you could get someone far better for any other role than that of the martial arts master.

On the subject of Austin Powers, I was very sensible in the fact that I watched Goldmember first. I thought it was fantastic, one of the funniest films ever, but then I saw the others and saw how old most of the jokes were, but I still see it as the original so I still love it. And Michale Caine was fantastic in it as he is in everything.

PhiLLer

26-08-2004, 08:02:PM

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
I hated Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragan - I bought the DVD and I think it is probably my least favourite DVD in my entire collection, so maybe I wont like Hero.

Out of interest, why did you hate it?
I thought it was beautifully shot, the fight scenes were fantastic, the use of the wires, the acting was good. I wouldn't rate it as a top film but I thought it was good though it wouldn't be a film I could watch over and over and never get bored of it, sometimes the story drags a bit too much for my liking. I am a fan of Jet Li's older work (Once Upon A Time In China 1,2 and 3) so I'll probably like Hero too.

Virgo

26-08-2004, 08:29:PM

It's just that Hero's script is very minimalist and it all twists around some things that for us, western culture are hard to understand. Like the myths surrounding the japanese writing style. They do not explain anything to and you need to have basic knowledge over that subject in order to understand the meaning of the movie, or you'll feel lost like I did.

Anyway the cinematography is brilliant, I'll give it that.

But it's much harder to watch than Crouching Tiger.

Tom

26-08-2004, 10:38:PM

Sir Calumn

27-08-2004, 12:13:AM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Out of interest, why did you hate it? I just thought it was absolutely awful, I didnt think the storyline was very good or very well developed, I didnt think the acting was up to much, the rediculousness of the fight scenes, while funny, was really quite bad - at one point I swear they were actually flying. Alright, it was well shot to produce the effects they got, but those werent effects that appealed to me at all. Also, my lack of tolerance for other cultures didnt help.

Originally posted by Virgo
It's just that Hero's script is very minimalist and it all twists around some things that for us, western culture are hard to understand. Like the myths surrounding the japanese writing style. They do not explain anything to and you need to have basic knowledge over that subject in order to understand the meaning of the movie, or you'll feel lost like I did. That's what people warned me Infernal Affairs was like, which is why I have so far not seen it, and probably the same reason loads of chinks go to chinky theatres to watch old Martial Arts movies which seem unbelievably poor and unwatchable to me. I'm sure they would feel the same about some of the more developed western films, their just aimed for different cultures, so naturally this should be a problem. Give me a cult western over a cult martial arts film any day.

Hakeem

27-08-2004, 12:46:PM

but I thought Infernal Affairs was about cops and thieves? is it not? :confused:

didnt know it was some kind of epic story :confused: :confused:

Sir Calumn

28-08-2004, 03:37:AM

Originally posted by Hakeem
but I thought Infernal Affairs was about cops and thieves? is it not? :confused:

didnt know it was some kind of epic story :confused: :confused: It's about a two guys, one of which starts off in the police force and one as a criminal, but you dont know which is the actual 'bad guy' and apparantly it's all rediculously compliacated as to who's doing what, and there's some martial arts thrown in their too I think.

PhiLLer

28-08-2004, 08:18:AM

Internal Affairs sounds like a really good movie actually. The basic plot is a story between a mole in the police department and an undercover cop. Their objectives are the same: to find out who is the mole, and who is the cop. (from IMDb)

Doesn't sound all that complicated to me. The original is from 2002. In 2003 there was a sequel (actually a prequel) and that same year a third was made. The original (from what I heard) is the best.

I came across a bit of info that there's going to be an American remake of the original Internal Affairs movie called "The Departed" starring Leo DiCaprio and Matt Damon (others haven't been named yet) and directed by Martin Scorsese and set for release in 2005. The story has been changed a little as this time the movie revolves around a rivalry between the Boston police force and an Irish-American gang. A gangster is chosen to infiltrate the police force while a young police officer is chosen to infiltrate the gang.

I don't know that "Irish-American gang" means that this will be set in the 1930's or something because as far as I know there aren't really any Irish-American gangs around nowadays...or are there?

Hakeem

28-08-2004, 09:41:AM

ok then, but is an action movie, not what you suggested Calumn while quoting Virgo's post about needing to know the background of the japanese's myths and all that

Sir Calumn

28-08-2004, 06:17:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
ok then, but is an action movie, not what you suggested Calumn while quoting Virgo's post about needing to know the background of the japanese's myths and all that I wasnt refering to Japanese myths etc, I was refering to the fact that some people have told me it's an extremely complicated plot which is very involved and only japanese people would understand it, maybe thats because the subtitling is bad or theres something about ancient japanese cultures that westerners wouldnt know or whether he was just lying, but they also said something like that on Newsnight Review, hence why I was asking if anyone here had seen it :p

Callan

28-08-2004, 10:19:PM

Originally posted by PhiLLer
Out of interest, why did you hate it?
I thought it was beautifully shot, the fight scenes were fantastic, the use of the wires, the acting was good. I wouldn't rate it as a top film but I thought it was good though it wouldn't be a film I could watch over and over and never get bored of it, sometimes the story drags a bit too much for my liking. I am a fan of Jet Li's older work (Once Upon A Time In China 1,2 and 3) so I'll probably like Hero too.

I disliked it also.

I thought the shots were good and the wires were ok, but i never knew people could glide and skate without wheels.

I didn't like the movie because it was not entertaining for me.

A lot like Platoon and Apocolypse Now, I didn't really appeal to them so greatly as I should have mainly because the whole Vietnam war thing really doesn't catch my interest... but the movies were good I just don't find them overly interesting.

I liked the Last Samurai if that is any comparison to Crouching Tiger... I really don't know... and I haven't seen Crouching Tiger in so long and I don't remember it because I didn't like it so I really cannot compare, but I do remember that I disliked it greatly...

Virgo

28-08-2004, 10:38:PM

nah nothing to do with Last Samurai really. Last Samurai feels too Hollywood-ish and in the mould of Dances with Wolves... just much worse.

Hero is much more boring than Crouching Tiger for instance. It feels like those japanese Anime stories if anyone follows that, where you have 10% action, 10% plot, 80% philosophy. I'm not a big fan of anime mainly because of that.

PhiLLer

28-08-2004, 11:38:PM

I quite like the Chinese martial arts films so I'll probably like Hero, I'm defenitely going to see it.

Hyun

28-08-2004, 11:51:PM

the Last Samurai was a cool movie, but it was so dumb plot-wise. it tries to have all the cool plot and make japan all mysterious, but its so obvious to people who actually know the whole history. it was pretty much a propaganda film to the western civilization to explain the zenness and ****.

Sir Calumn

29-08-2004, 01:40:AM

I quite liked The Last Samurai, the plot was kinda basic but the acting was excellent, two great British actors (Spall and Connelly) putting in great performances and a good, if more mediocre, performance by Cruise. There were some parts which I felts were stupid, like the 'honour bound' Japanese woman falling in love with the man who killed he husband, but I though the basic morale storyline of a man brought up with the American ideal, that they are the best in the world and all other cultures are inferior and weak, changing sides against his American allies when he experienced things from the other perspective. Definately not a great film for me, but a good one.

Hakeem

29-08-2004, 02:13:AM

I really liked The Last Samurai too. people always have problems with Tom Cruise movie and say he cant act and all that. I really think he's a great actor. I mean, yeah, he does a lot of commercial films and everything but he's a great actor anyway IMO.

Sir Calumn

29-08-2004, 02:20:AM

Originally posted by Hakeem
I really liked The Last Samurai too. people always have problems with Tom Cruise movie and say he cant act and all that. I really think he's a great actor. I mean, yeah, he does a lot of commercial films and everything but he's a great actor anyway IMO. I agree, I think he is a pretty good actor. It's interesting, on the surface Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt all look like they could be 'prettyboys' with no acting talent, yet Depp, Pitt and Cruise are extremely good, varied actors were as DiCrapio and Bloom are just handsome faces with no substance.

Hakeem

29-08-2004, 04:11:AM

yep.
Orlando Bloom is just starting though, so that can change.

DiCaprio was great in What's eating Gilbert Grape, but after Titanic he hasnt done much.

I did like The Beach though. it started awesome btu then towards the end it fell appart.
and I loved Gangs of New York but there was so much talent in that movie (on and off camera) that he was good cause everybody was good maybe.

Virgo

29-08-2004, 08:49:AM

Orlando Bloom is just too bad...

I think he's only surpassed by that kid who plays Anakin Skywalker in Episode II, Hayden Christensen. Ridiculous acting, ruined what was left to ruin of the movie.

At least Bloom didn't ruin Lord of the Rings...

Hakeem

29-08-2004, 02:51:PM

Hayden Christensen is a good actor, the Star Wars prequels just plain suck.

watch Hayden Christensen in Life as a House and you'll see his potencial. he's very good and the movie is excellent (Y)(Y)(Y)

Sir Calumn

29-08-2004, 06:19:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
yep.
Orlando Bloom is just starting though, so that can change.

DiCaprio was great in What's eating Gilbert Grape, but after Titanic he hasnt done much.

I did like The Beach though. it started awesome btu then towards the end it fell appart.
and I loved Gangs of New York but there was so much talent in that movie (on and off camera) that he was good cause everybody was good maybe.

God I hate Orlando Bloom. His sh!te performance, coupled with the fact whoever wrote the screenplay made him out to be some sort of superhuman, far better than any other member of the fellowship, was one of the main reasons Lord of the Rings was butchered for me. I hate DiCaprio also, Gangs of New York was alright, though the anticlimax at the end, the gangs all lined up for a massive battle than scattered by a few cannon shots, really disappointed me, the rest of it was pretty good, but really DiCaprio's performance was very ordinary, any other similar actor could have done it, and his accent was really very poor. He sucked in Romeo+Juliet, Man in the Iron Mask and Titanic too. Back to Orlando Bloom, I though Pirates of the Carribean was a great indicator, Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom side by side in the cast, both actors who superficially would seem like talentless prettyboys, but Depp delivered a superb, awesome performace whereas Bloom was mediocre at best, and often very bad. The only downpoint to what was a great film.

Originally posted by Virgo
Orlando Bloom is just too bad...

I think he's only surpassed by that kid who plays Anakin Skywalker in Episode II, Hayden Christensen. Ridiculous acting, ruined what was left to ruin of the movie.

At least Bloom didn't ruin Lord of the Rings... Bloom came close to ruining it. I thought Christensen did Star Wars quite well, alright he came accross as an arrogant talentless prettyboy (you must be getting bored with me using that phrase) but I think, perhaps luckily for him, that was what the part demanded so it came off well. I havent seen him in anything else that I can remember.

Originally posted by Hakeem
Hayden Christensen is a good actor, the Star Wars prequels just plain suck. The Star Wars prequels aren't too bad, alright they don't have the essence and substance of the original Star Wars films but they're still very accomplished with some good acting and some good moments, they were a bit of a let down but I still thought they were adequate. I'm looking forward to Episode 3, they're gonna have to squeeze so much into that film it will be interesting to see how they do it.

Hakeem

30-08-2004, 01:54:AM

I dont like Natalie Portman in the prequels. mostly because I totally hate her character.
Hayden, I really think he's overacting in there, specially when he gets mad.
Ewan McGregor is the best thing in the prequels.

as I said, I like DiCaprio. he needs to stop the pretty boy roles butI really like Titanic and Romeo & Juliet (mostly cause of Kate Winslett and Claire Danes but Leo was good too IMO)

Shindig

30-08-2004, 02:06:AM

Ewan McGregor's only good in British films, IMO.

Hakeem

30-08-2004, 02:36:AM

I need to see Young Adam. is it really good?

_BIGMAN_

30-08-2004, 02:37:AM

The Ring is a great movie, not the japanese one though, although i haven't seen it. [Edited]

Virgo

30-08-2004, 04:33:AM

Hakeem

30-08-2004, 04:40:AM

Originally posted by Virgo
he was superb in Catch Me If You Can, it's his best role to date. I thought he was ok also in Gangs of New York too, but in GONY Daniel Day Lewis steals the show.

oh yeah, forgot about that one, Catch me if you Can is a great movie.
beautifully shot and acted.

Callan

30-08-2004, 06:36:PM

I am half way through watching Magnolia right now.

This is a bloody fantastic film... I haven't seen a good movie in ages but I am really enjoying this one.

I bought Fight Club the other day, I love that film to.

I also bought Donie Darko but haven't watched it yet. :)

But yeah, Magnoia is heaps mad, watch it if you haven't, it's really good. Tom Cruise is fantastic (Y)

Sir Calumn

30-08-2004, 06:59:PM

Originally posted by Hakeem
I dont like Natalie Portman in the prequels. mostly because I totally hate her character.
Hayden, I really think he's overacting in there, specially when he gets mad.
Ewan McGregor is the best thing in the prequels.

as I said, I like DiCaprio. he needs to stop the pretty boy roles butI really like Titanic and Romeo & Juliet (mostly cause of Kate Winslett and Claire Danes but Leo was good too IMO) I love Natalie Portman for one reason, and I think that's pretty obvious. I think she's a pretty good actress, and I did think she was good in the Star Wars prequels. You're right though, Ewan McGregor was the best performance in them, except perhaps Christopher Lee. McGregor is an extremely good actor. When I did my top 20 a few pages back, I forgot about Trainspotting which would be around number 5, and McGregor was awesome in that. One of Britain's greatest young talents. I dont like Claire Daines at all. I would actually find it difficult to do a top 20 favourite actoresses, there are not many I like except for their looks.

Originally posted by Virgo
he was superb in Catch Me If You Can, it's his best role to date. I thought he was ok also in Gangs of New York too, but in GONY Daniel Day Lewis steals the show. I agree, I'd never liked Daniel Day Lewis before, I though Last of the Mohecans was pretty poor, but he was really good in Gangs of New York. The more I look back on GONY though, the more I feel it was a 'nothing' film.

Originally posted by Callan
I am half way through watching Magnolia right now.

This is a bloody fantastic film... I haven't seen a good movie in ages but I am really enjoying this one.

I bought Fight Club the other day, I love that film to.

I also bought Donie Darko but haven't watched it yet. :)

But yeah, Magnoia is heaps mad, watch it if you haven't, it's really good. Tom Cruise is fantastic (Y) Damnit, Magnolia was on TV last night and I didnt watch it! I was going to, because I thought someone told me it was excellent and it had William H Macy in it who is excellent, but it went on very late and I was tired and I thought it might not be what it was hyped up to be. I wish I had now. Btw Callan, I just bought LA Confidential based on what you said in another thread, it looks pretty good I have to say, I'll watch it soon.