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RuiCosta_10 01-06-2006, 12:15:PM Marcel will still prove he's a good player, and yeah, we may had loose Miccoli, and i prefer him over Marcel, no doubt, but he's probably way expensive, and like Eminem said, we didn't payed 3,5M € for Marcel.
Anyway, Virgo, despite the January transfers that were all crap, we actually managed to get very good players, Léo, Karagounis, Miccoli(loan), Anderson, Karyaka(good player to me) and Nelson... It wasn't that bad.
NightCrawler 01-06-2006, 02:08:PM According to Record, Brann wants Karadas and they are willing to pay 1.5M €. Hurray, I was affraid we had to pay to get rid of him, Thank You Brann.
Paulo Da Silva 01-06-2006, 02:46:PM The funny thing is that Marcel cost around 2 million euros (not 100% payed by Benfica, there's an investment group involved in this, like the Luisão deal). But I guess no one cares about that, the 3.5 million suits better so everyone can bash Vieira and Veiga.
And yes, the Académica chairman lied on the AG when he said that. He knows that as well as I do. Benfica didn't pay the release clause. When the Briosa accounts get investigated after he leaves, you'll see I was right and you were wrong. There are many lobbies with construction companies inside Académica. Those same lobbies brought Marcel from Korea in the first place...
But that isn't important, what's important is believing a lie. Afterall, when you say a lie a lot of times, it ends up becoming a truth. And that's how our country is sinking in the mud :ewan:
**** don't be a dick. I read the 3.5 million euro deal in three papers and watched it in the news while i was in Portugal last week. Nothing came up about the investment group and all said that Benfica paid 3.5 million straight up.
Sorry i never knew you had inside info on the Benfica signings that nobody else had.
RuiCosta_10 01-06-2006, 02:53:PM **** don't be a dick. I read the 3.5 million euro deal in three papers and watched it in the news while i was in Portugal last week. Nothing came up about the investment group and all said that Benfica paid 3.5 million straight up.
Sorry i never knew you had inside info on the Benfica signings that nobody else had.
Who do you think you are to insult people that way?
NightCrawler 01-06-2006, 04:21:PM Well... He lives in heaven.... He must be somehow special..
Paulo Da Silva 01-06-2006, 04:23:PM Who do you think you are to insult people that way?
he was the one who was talking down to me like some smart ass. i just stated what i read and seen on TV and he proceeded to correct me with a smart ass reply and no link to prove what he said.
Paulo Da Silva 01-06-2006, 04:24:PM Well... He lives in heaven.... He must be somehow special..
damn straight!!!lol
RuiCosta_10 01-06-2006, 04:30:PM he was the one who was talking down to me like some smart ass. i just stated what i read and seen on TV and he proceeded to correct me with a smart ass reply and no link to prove what he said.
Ok, that's a valid reason to insult people.
Thank you.
Virgo 01-06-2006, 04:41:PM The funny thing is that Marcel cost around 2 million euros (not 100% payed by Benfica, there's an investment group involved in this, like the Luisão deal). But I guess no one cares about that, the 3.5 million suits better so everyone can bash Vieira and Veiga.
And yes, the Académica chairman lied on the AG when he said that. He knows that as well as I do. Benfica didn't pay the release clause. When the Briosa accounts get investigated after he leaves, you'll see I was right and you were wrong. There are many lobbies with construction companies inside Académica. Those same lobbies brought Marcel from Korea in the first place...
But that isn't important, what's important is believing a lie. Afterall, when you say a lie a lot of times, it ends up becoming a truth. And that's how our country is sinking in the mud :ewan:
you may be right but you don't have ANY proof of that, and EVERY media source + the Academica president says it was 3,5M€.
If it's not true LFV should have denied it by now. He'll still have more chances to do so, but the fact is that every Benfica fan is pissed with buying Marcel and letting Miccoli go atm.
Therefore the righteousness tone detected in your post is not in any way justifiable, unless of course you have proof.
Paulo Da Silva 02-06-2006, 02:31:AM you may be right but you don't have ANY proof of that, and EVERY media source + the Academica president says it was 3,5M€.
If it's not true LFV should have denied it by now. He'll still have more chances to do so, but the fact is that every Benfica fan is pissed with buying Marcel and letting Miccoli go atm.
Therefore the righteousness tone detected in your post is not in any way justifiable, unless of course you have proof.
thank you, exactly.
Rui i didnt insult anyone. I told him not to be a dick, not that he was a dick. dont be so touchy
Vinnie Jones 02-06-2006, 10:24:AM The funny thing is that Marcel cost around 2 million euros (not 100% payed by Benfica, there's an investment group involved in this, like the Luisão deal). But I guess no one cares about that, the 3.5 million suits better so everyone can bash Vieira and Veiga.
And yes, the Académica chairman lied on the AG when he said that. He knows that as well as I do. Benfica didn't pay the release clause. When the Briosa accounts get investigated after he leaves, you'll see I was right and you were wrong. There are many lobbies with construction companies inside Académica. Those same lobbies brought Marcel from Korea in the first place...
But that isn't important, what's important is believing a lie. Afterall, when you say a lie a lot of times, it ends up becoming a truth. And that's how our country is sinking in the mud :ewan:
:rofl: :rofl:
3m1n3m 02-06-2006, 12:54:PM Vinnie Jones: do you think Académica is always fighting for relegation because of the refs and you are the best squad in the world?
Oh, and of course, Zé Castro was offered the biggest wage in the Académica roster but because Académica are intelligent and Castro is dumb, he rejected.
Oh, and Marcel wasn't sold in January to Benfica! The Koreans of Samsung Blue Wings and the constructions businessmen that owned most of Marcel's sporting rights are a pigment of my imagination!
...
Or could it be the disastrous management policy José Eduardo Simões has done since he took over?
Another reason for our country being in the mud: as pessoas atiram areia para os próprios olhos para fazer de conta que nada se passa. Maior prova? Taxas de abstenção nos diferentes actos eleitorais.
3m1n3m 02-06-2006, 01:03:PM BTW, Virgo: I've done my share of investigation to say this. Search throughout the Internet and by talking to people inside the reality of Portuguese football, try to know exactly where to look.
If the media say something, does it mean its true? Do you really think Vieira doesn't want Miccoli? Or did you just read that he didn't?
If this deal was to be public, the Académica president would be crushed by the opposition inside Académica and by the constructions businessmen that are supporting everything "behind the scenes". He'd be isolated and wouldn't be able to do anything but resign from his post. And Benfica agreed to never release any details of this deal.
Do you remember some news in February/March, when José Eduardo Simões was being investigated by PJ? That his home and his office were being searched from A to Z? That the Marcel transfer was one of the main subjects of these investigations? That was when I started to want to know about it.
Paulo Da Silva 02-06-2006, 04:59:PM show us links, proof...anything else is just speculation.
as of know ot stands as a 3.5 million euro bid.
however, i do agree that something sounds fishy...
3m1n3m 02-06-2006, 07:41:PM Inform yourselves, like I did. Talk to people who know well the backstage deals in our league. See beyond the newspapers and the paper-written speaches to the press.
Paulo da Silva: if I say something is speculation, and if the press says something is the dogmatic truth? Ok. Won't argue about that. The only difference is I don't sell what the info I get, but they do (many times, lies).
But that same thought in your last line made me begin searching for more about this. This and other matters. And some moves by Benfica and Porto are that clean. Specially in the last few years. If you don't believe me, do the same I did. I have no links, but if I had I'd gladly post them here, I'd have no problems with that.
Paulo Da Silva 02-06-2006, 08:35:PM i read that mid week last week. Since then there has been over a week for somebody to come out and say what the Academica pres said was a lie. You know what i mean.
I only brought this up, not to provoke, but to just point out how stupid benfica's leaders are being (if this is true). if you can afford 3.5 then why not make a little extra puch and pay 5 million for a quality player in Miccolli
Tiago_10 05-06-2006, 10:29:PM It seems Benfica is interested in Katsouranis from AEK. Fernando Santos is said to know him well, since he already worked with him.
He's a defensive midfielder so unless we bench either Petit or Fernandes he will be a sub. If this is to replace Beto I'm all for it, just guess Katsouranis won't be very happy to be benched for most time, and that might create a problem in the team's environment.
What do you guys think about this ?
NightCrawler 05-06-2006, 10:45:PM Katsou...who??? Hm... This guy seems like another Machairidis... :nape:
Well... If FS wants to screw up the lockeroom even more... I don't want to see Manel or Petit benched to start this Katsouranis dude, Beto should be the bench warmer for this 2 guys. Karagounis could also do Manel's place... We need to star thinking in buying a winger and a decent striker instead of more "defenders".
3m1n3m 06-06-2006, 12:56:AM Comparing Katsouranis to Machairidis is ridiculous. What's next, comparing Rui Costa to Sabry? :lui: The circus is in town...
One thing I've noticed since Greek players began to be talked about moving to Benfica: there's a complex against Greece amongst Portuguese. A big one. The reason, could be many. The Euro is the main one, but there are more.
NightCrawler 06-06-2006, 01:16:AM Comparing Katsouranis to Machairidis is ridiculous. What's next, comparing Rui Costa to Sabry? :lui: The circus is in town...
One thing I've noticed since Greek players began to be talked about moving to Benfica: there's a complex against Greece amongst Portuguese. A big one. The reason, could be many. The Euro is the main one, but there are more.
Yup, that's it, I don't want a "Great" player to come to Benfica just because he's Greek... I don't like Karagounis either, he stinks... Jeez.. :rolleyes:
No, wait a second... Someone just told me that I don't want Katsouranis because we don't need another player for that position, especialy one that costs us 2.5M or something and we are in greater need of a winger...
P.S.- I compared him to Machairidis because, if he comes and goes to the bench, we're gonna have the same sort of trouble in the lockeroom... Then the circus will be in town...
RuiCosta_10 06-06-2006, 07:21:AM Believe me, we really need another player for that position...
Just look back to last season when Petit or Manuel Fernandes couldn't play, we had to play Beto, and the results used to be horrible...
So we definitely need to be safe at that position, so we'll have the greatest defense in Portugal...
First the defence, then, the attack, my opinion.
smoove 06-06-2006, 07:33:AM Well, Katsouranis could be a really useful player for us, but I doubt we have the money to get him.
We'd need to pay 5-8 Mio for him as he has 2 more Years left on his Contract at AEK.
That, in my opinion is far too much for a player that would likely be a bench warmer.
RuiCosta_10 06-06-2006, 07:36:AM 5-8 M?!
No way Veiga will pay that for a player, just look to Miccoli case...
Specially for a player that will probably be a second option, he'll try to get him cheap with some Benfica players involved in the deal, i think.
And, no way in hell Katsouranis value is around that...
smoove 06-06-2006, 07:44:AM His value is ~7Mio...AEK rejected a 3 Mio offer from Werder Bremen last Season. He won't be cheap as he's by far the best player on their Squad.
Miccoli on the other Hand would have been 5th Striker at Juventus.
Virgo 06-06-2006, 09:08:AM the papers are talking about 2M€, doubt we'll pay more than that as we obviously can't afford it.
we're also trying to get D'Alessandro on loan.
Judging by the players we're trying to get, and if we Simao, F.Santos prefferred system will definitely be the 442 diamond
NightCrawler 06-06-2006, 12:39:PM Yes, if Katsouranis comes we're gonna have a great defense, but in my view I don't see the need for spending such a large amount off money (smoove even said 5M) for a "bench" player... I don't know if you agree but I would like to see a guy like Roberto Brum from Académica in Benfica, he seems quite good... We have that Diego guy now too, I think he is a Defensive Midfielder, not sure though...
The newspapers are talking about Papadopoulos, according to them he's a winger addapted to "striker"... I don't know him verywell but I rather have him instead of Katsouranis... Ok.. I rather have Wilhelmson instead of both, but I guess Veiga isn't looking to Anderlecht.
We also need to start pointing towards Miguelito, if we loose Leo we're srewed...
What do you think?
3m1n3m 07-06-2006, 09:23:AM If we don't need a defensive midfielder, who do we need then? A central defender maybe... :nape:
When we have Beto to replace Petit or Manuel Fernandes, I'm THIS CLOSE to having a heart attack. Even with Diego Souza, who the coach needs to see in action, he's isn't confirmed on the squad for the season, only for the pre-season tour to Central Europe.
And if we can get Katsouranis on the cheap... I don't see why. He's no bench player, we don't need to buy bench players. We do need to buy players to fight with last season's regular starters. High-level competition is healthy, and only benefits the team itself.
Yeah, AEK rejected a €3M bid last season from Werder Bremen. His price has dropped precisely because of that. They didn't sell him on the right time, and now they risk having to sell him for less than he's really worth. And that's when Benfica arrives to the scene. I believe we can get him for less than €2M.
EDIT: It's just like Simão and Benfica. If Benfica don't sell Simão this summer for €18-20M, we'll sell him next summer for €12-14M. It's all about the right time.
Vinnie Jones 07-06-2006, 03:23:PM Vinnie Jones: do you think Académica is always fighting for relegation because of the refs and you are the best squad in the world?
Oh, and of course, Zé Castro was offered the biggest wage in the Académica roster but because Académica are intelligent and Castro is dumb, he rejected.
Oh, and Marcel wasn't sold in January to Benfica! The Koreans of Samsung Blue Wings and the constructions businessmen that owned most of Marcel's sporting rights are a pigment of my imagination!
...
Or could it be the disastrous management policy José Eduardo Simões has done since he took over?
Only saw this pearl today. I´m not really going to waste my time with you and your stupid arrogance. If you want to have a decent discussion learn to respect the other clubs.
You´re an idiot. First Académica is a traditional club with a rich history but it´s obviously a middle table club. We have natural limitations that prevent us from fighting for other objectives. But i prefer this way rather than acting like Vitória de Setúbal and many other who don´t pay the wages to their players and staff or pay taxes. You have done your investigations? So what? What does it mean? You think it´s the truth? You know ****. I live in Coimbra, i´m a socio, know all the gossip and go to the "Assembleias gerais". You realize that in the "Assembleias gerais" we discuss the club´s "orçamento e contas"? They were all approved and there was nothing illicit. We don´t forge any documents, we don´t have Vale e Azevedo´s here. Construction lobby´s? In Académica? Stop talking our of your ass. Mention that to any person in Coimbra and they will laugh at you.
About José Eduardo Simões you are partially right. I don´t really like his style (loud mouth; Zé Castro affair) but there is no disastrous management. He was able to keep us on the Liga Betandwin, got us Manuel Machado and has big ambitions for our club. We have a 900mil "contos" "orçamento" this year. Yes the Policia Judiciária made some "rusgas" in his "office" and at the club but have you ever heard that every man is innocent until proven guilty? Was he charged of anything? I don´t think so.
I don´t really care about this affair. Académica didn´t lose money with Marcel and i always voiced my opinion about him here. I never liked him and i warned that he wasn´t that good player. He left, we got our money and started playing Joeano who even scored more goals than him and helped us stay in the Liga Betandwin.
Keep doing your investigations and sell them to the "24 Horas". They are very fond of publicizing crap.
3m1n3m 07-06-2006, 08:04:PM I'm being honest VJ, I didn't fully read you're reply. From the moment you stated your arguments on me being an idiot, I didn't read the rest with the same anticipation I was when I saw you had a new post.
If it weren't for your insults, I'd gladly discuss this matter with you. I'd have no problem if you proved me wrong after a long and constructive argument. It must be my arrogance...
But if you prefer to start defending yourself by calling me a stupid arrogant and an idiot, fine. Did I insult you personally in any way? I guess not... I have no interest in taking part in those kind of low education demonstrations. Sorry.
NightCrawler 07-06-2006, 08:29:PM If we don't need a defensive midfielder, who do we need then? A central defender maybe... :nape:
I clearly stated what, in my oppinion, we need the most. So read some posts behind instead of making those lousy assumptions!
I don't want to see Manel or Petit dragged out of the starting lineup, so that the new guy, who veiga is going to sky rocket to stardom even if he stinks, can play.
You guys may say that he is a great player, he's gonna do wonders to our team and I respect that, if so, he is more than welcome on bord... But actually I've never seen him play, I really don't pay alot of attention to the Greek League or the Greek NT, I'm not gonna be able to see him at the world cup either. I think we already have the best Greek midfielder. So if Katsouranis doesn't come I'm not gonna be sad about it...
Vinnie Jones 07-06-2006, 08:29:PM I don´t care if you read it or not. I only posted in an agressive manner because you were disrespectful towards my club, made perjurative remarks and wrote alot of crap that can´t be consusbstantiated by any facts. I´m not really interested in discussing things with arrogant fans and believe me i know your kind. The kind that thinks that your club is the center of the world and the rest is garbage. If you want respect, respect the other people too. Btw i don´t know what´s the worst form of low education, calling ppl by their names when they act like real dicks or spreading lies to make ppl believe in whatever false arguments you want them to believe. Académica is a serious club, with an historial that speaks by itself and who holds good relationship with every single club in the LigaBetandwin. We don´t endorse any criminal or ilicit activities. We always had good reputation, a friendly club and the fact that almost everyone simpathyzes with Académica proves that. Those accusations you made are very serious. Got any proof to back it up? Are you familiar with the concept of slander and defamation?
So let´s just end this now and ignore each others posts, i don´t want to waste my time either, two replies is too much.
3m1n3m 07-06-2006, 09:19:PM I´m not really interested in discussing things with arrogant fans and believe me i know your kind. The kind that thinks that your club is the center of the world and the rest is garbage.
You don't know me, then don't talk about me. I'm doing the same with you.
Whether you think I'm telling the truth or not, I really don't care. From what I've found out, this is the truth that has been given to me. But I'm all open to see other views. But I guess it won't be you to let me have another view, because I'm not interested in the sort of "discussion" you're looking for. So I propose you don't even reply to me and we end this senseless dialogue that is heading nowhere, only to low-level talk, which I'm not interested in.
3m1n3m 07-06-2006, 09:22:PM I clearly stated what, in my oppinion, we need the most. So read some posts behind instead of making those lousy assumptions!
I don't want to see Manel or Petit dragged out of the starting lineup, so that the new guy, who veiga is going to sky rocket to stardom even if he stinks, can play.
You guys may say that he is a great player, he's gonna do wonders to our team and I respect that, if so, he is more than welcome on bord... But actually I've never seen him play, I really don't pay alot of attention to the Greek League or the Greek NT, I'm not gonna be able to see him at the world cup either. I think we already have the best Greek midfielder. So if Katsouranis doesn't come I'm not gonna be sad about it...
I misread you then. Sorry, my bad.
I don't think is going to do wonders. I'm just saying you can expect a lot of hard-work from Katsouranis if he does get to come. I'd rather leave the wonders to another kind of players... :p
::shinji:: 07-06-2006, 09:26:PM I don´t care if you read it or not. I only posted in an agressive manner because you were disrespectful towards my club, made perjurative remarks and wrote alot of crap that can´t be consusbstantiated by any facts. I´m not really interested in discussing things with arrogant fans and believe me i know your kind. The kind that thinks that your club is the center of the world and the rest is garbage. If you want respect, respect the other people too. Btw i don´t know what´s the worst form of low education, calling ppl by their names when they act like real dicks or spreading lies to make ppl believe in whatever false arguments you want them to believe. Académica is a serious club, with an historial that speaks by itself and who holds good relationship with every single club in the LigaBetandwin. We don´t endorse any criminal or ilicit activities. We always had good reputation, a friendly club and the fact that almost everyone simpathyzes with Académica proves that. Those accusations you made are very serious. Got any proof to back it up? Are you familiar with the concept of slander and defamation?
So let´s just end this now and ignore each others posts, i don´t want to waste my time either, two replies is too much.
don't get so exited man, we're on the internet remember...
NightCrawler 17-06-2006, 03:59:PM Hurray, we lost D'alessandro and Katsouranis is going the same way! Juventus isn't letting Miccoli go and we also desperatly need another winger like for instance... Wilhelmson :D
Thank God we have Marcel there :rolleyes:
RuiCosta_10 17-06-2006, 06:44:PM Team in the midfield and attack for now:
Petit
Manel---Kara
Rei
Nuno Gomes
No good substitutes , but a very good first eleven, except for the striker, i think we need someone better than Nuno...
NightCrawler 17-06-2006, 08:01:PM Nuno Gomes sucks playing alone, but when he has another striker (a decent one, not a Karadas or a Marcel) to play with, that's a different story...
P.S.- Did I mention Wilhelmson would be a great signing :D
RuiCosta_10 17-06-2006, 08:15:PM Dream on...
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Punkt 22-06-2006, 04:46:PM Katsouranis will be presented at Estádio da Luz this afternoon
Tiago_10 22-06-2006, 10:14:PM Is he any good ? Fernando Santos gave his approval but I really don't know what to expect...
Moreira_Benfica 22-06-2006, 10:15:PM what position is this guy and anyone know anyhting about him
NightCrawler 22-06-2006, 10:17:PM Since they insisted in buying Katsouranis I sincerely hope Beto goes away tomorrow!
He's a Defensive Midfielder and a Greek NT player, this is all I know about him as I mentioned before I don't really give a damn about the Greek League
Moreira_Benfica 22-06-2006, 11:07:PM lol w/e anyones better then beto
Rui10Costa 25-06-2006, 12:33:AM anybody no whats going on with that other benfica site...SL-Benfica.net
Parasol 25-06-2006, 01:42:AM anybody no whats going on with that other benfica site...SL-Benfica.net
was taken out... the same site is now @ Ser Benfiquista (http://www.serbenfiquista.com/home/index.php)
RuiCosta_10 25-06-2006, 09:53:AM Nop Parasol, the site he's talking about is another one...
Apparently it's in remodelation Rui10Costa.
Parasol 25-06-2006, 12:01:PM Nop Parasol, the site he's talking about is another one...
Apparently it's in remodelation Rui10Costa.
then which was that that was taken out due to legal reasons? :confused:
RuiCosta_10 25-06-2006, 12:44:PM Never heard nothing about that, i was away from the net for like 3/5 months, don't know why sl-benfica.com changed to serbenfiquista.com...
but the one he is talking is another site... don't know, lol :S
RuiCosta_10 25-06-2006, 12:54:PM O Jogo
Numa entrevista publicada no jornal "Sportday", um dos muitos periódicos desportivos gregos, Katsouranis revelou que, poucos dias antes de assinar pelo Benfica, foi contactado por um empresário que lhe deu conta do "interesse do FC Porto" em contratá-lo.
Refira-se que, apesar de esta ser a primeira vez que se fala de um eventual interesse do FC Porto em Katsouranis, no passado o clube nortenho já tinha revelado seguir com atenção o médio internacional grego.
::shinji:: 25-06-2006, 01:41:PM there's a surprise :rolleyes:
I also noticed the Wilhelmsson to Porto rumours started pretty soon after Benfica's interest in that player re-surfaced.
RuiCosta_10 27-06-2006, 12:35:PM Jóias promissoras para Fernando Santos
O treinador benfiquista terá à sua disposição, durante o estágio de pré-temporada, sete jovens jogadores: seis provenientes da equipa B e um júnior. Neste lote, destaca-se o internacional australiano Kaz Patafta
São sete os jovens que Fernando Santos terá à disposição no estágio de pré-temporada, na Suíça. Os responsáveis benfiquistas prometeram apostar na prata da casa, e o novo técnico das águias vai observar, durante 12 dias, em solo helvético, Bruno Costa (guarda-redes), Pedro Correia (defesa-direito), Tiago Gomes (defesa-esquerdo), João Coimbra (médio), Bijou (médio ofensivo), Patafta (médio ofensivo) e Canales (avançado).
Com a extinção da equipa B, a SAD tenta resolver o futuro de vários jogadores e, depois de uma análise intensiva ao desempenho destes jogadores durante a última temporada, os dirigentes encarnados – em perfeita sintonia com o corpo técnico – decidiram dar-lhes uma oportunidade.
Se, em relação a Bruno Costa, Tiago Gomes e João Coimbra, esta chamada não surpreende, uma vez que já treinaram muitas vezes com o plantel principal, já em relação a Bijou, Canales, Patafta e Pedro Correia, a situação é totalmente diferente... Os jogadores cabo-verdiano, chileno, australiano e português, respectivamente, surgiram agora na lista de possíveis reforços para 2006/07, mas irão submeter-se a um rigoroso teste na Suíça.
O nome mais sonante deste lote é, sem dúvida, o de Kaz Patafta, médio ofensivo australiano que integrou o lote dos eleitos de Guus Hiddink para o Mundial da Alemanha. Embora não tenha realizado qualquer partida pela sua selecção, a verdade é que Patafta fez parte do lote dos eleitos de uma equipa que chegou aos oitavos-de-final da prova, tendo sido eliminada pela Itália nos instantes finais do encontro entre ambas nos oitavos-de-final. O médio é uma das grandes apostas das águias para o futuro e poderá já iniciar esse percurso durante a próxima época... Quem também sonha com uma oportunidade é Canales: o internacional chileno (Sub-20) chegou na última temporada à Luz com a esperança de conquistar um lugar no plantel principal e, agora, irá tentar mostrar a Fernando Santos que a aposta não foi em vão.
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NightCrawler 27-06-2006, 01:26:PM Let's see if we can pull another Manuel Fernandes :)
sl benfica 29-06-2006, 03:11:AM Let's see if we can pull another Manuel Fernandes :)
Theres talk in today papers that MF might be on his way out with the help of an England team. Here comes another Miguel episode :(
RuiCosta_10 29-06-2006, 06:51:AM Can't believe that... It has to be bs, Vieira said that only one player would leave, he made clear that the player was Simão...
Punkt 03-07-2006, 07:20:PM list of players present in the pre-season trainings in Switzerland:
Guarda-redes: Moretto, Moreira e Bruno Costa;
Defesas: Anderson, Léo, Alcides, Ricardo Rocha, José Fonte e Tiago Gomes;
Médios: Karagounis, Manuel Fernandes, Nuno Assis, Beto, Manduca, Marco Ferreira, Rui Costa, Diego, Katsouranis, João Coimbra, Karyaka e Manu;
Avançados: Marcel, Canales e Mantorras.
Quim, Luisão, Petit, Simão and Nuno Gomes only return on 24th July.
Virgo 03-07-2006, 08:06:PM Kaz Patafta isn't going? :(
NightCrawler 03-07-2006, 09:23:PM I'm guessing here but I think he will be on vacations because he was called by Gus Hidding to the Australian NT.
I hope he'll join the rest of the guys in Switzerland, obviously Hidding saw something there that was worth calling.
RuiCosta_10 03-07-2006, 10:35:PM Bah, i wanted to see him, guess i'll have to wait more...
We have to much people on midfield already though...
Manel,Karagounis,Katsouranis,Beto,Diego,Rui Costa,Bijou,João Coimbra,Nuno Assis...
NightCrawler 04-07-2006, 12:23:PM O Benfica informou hoje, na Suíça, que Alcides não se conseguiu apresentar ontem na Luz porque foi RAPTADO sábado em São Paulo, situação que acabou em bem com a libertação do defesa ao fim de pouco tempo.
Alcides continua, no entanto, ainda no Brasil, não se sabendo quando é que se vai juntar à comitiva na Suíça, que esta manhã iniciou os treinos da pré-época, uma vez que ficou sem os documentos além de uma quantia de dinheiro, que não foi especificada.
I guess they're already used to it... But they insist in going to Brazil...
Tiago_10 04-07-2006, 12:59:PM It's sad but with the amount of times situations like this have happened in Brazil, it's not even shocking anymore.. (:/)
NightCrawler 05-07-2006, 02:10:AM Paulo Jorge por 4 anos
O Benfica assegurou ontem a contratação do extremo do Boavista, com quem assinou um contrato de quatro anos. Paulo Jorge segue esta manhã para a Suíça e à tarde já treinará sob a orientação de Fernando Santos!
Can anyone tell me something about this guy? I don't know him very well..
Tiago_10 06-07-2006, 01:20:PM Miccoli: «Em Portugal, só o Benfica»
Contrariando notícias que o dão como possível no FC Porto, numa antecipação que não seria inédita por parte dos «dragões», o italiano Miccoli esclareceu hoje que, a manter-se no futebol português, só alinhará por um clube: o Benfica.
O italiano, que falava à Renascença, afirmou: «Fora de Itália, só jogarei em Portugal e no Benfica. Nada sei sobre essa história do Porto. Aguardo o dia 15 deste mês para saber o que vai acontecer à Juventus, a partir daí será decidido o meu futuro, ou regresso ao meu país ou irei manter-me na Luz. Tenho contactado com José Veiga, ele está a par do que se passa».
From abola.pt
:Bow: to him.
We should defenately do everything we can to keep him. This is the kind of players we need, that really want to be here.
NightCrawler 06-07-2006, 02:29:PM He likes Benfica and he is a really good player too. What more can we ask?
Miccoli rulz!!
PSVFOREVER 06-07-2006, 09:46:PM Is Alcides a good defender? I heard he can play at DR and DC. Please give me some information. Ronald Koeman today said Alcides is close to a transfer to PSV, almost 100% completed.
RuiCosta_10 06-07-2006, 09:59:PM I personally like him a lot, i even prefer him over Anderson (our other cb along Luisão), he's very very calm, can go out of the defense with the ball controled, and has an extremely good vision and sense of positioning...
Although last year he played as a right back and he clearly didn't played well...
I hope he stays...
Tiago_10 07-07-2006, 01:43:AM Anderson is quite a lot better than Alcides IMO, at least at this moment, he still has many years to improve. As a right back he doesn't attack very well, but he didn't do bad defensively (excluding that match against Sporting).
RuiCosta_10 07-07-2006, 08:10:PM Robert treina no Besiktas
Sem lugar nas opções de Fernando Santos, Robert está muito perto de vincular-se ao Besiktas. O esquerdino chegou a acordo com o emblema turco e já está, inclusivamente, a treinar às ordens de Jean Tigana, técnico do Besiktas. O treinador manifestou à sua Direcção o desejo de contar com Robert, mas pretende também avaliar ao vivo as capacidades do jogador gaulês, que se juntou ao grupo de trabalho do Besiktas em Paris, onde os turcos cumprem a sua pré-temporada.
A formação da Turquia conta também resolver, nos próximos dias, a saída do defesa Juanfran, que se deve mudar para o Saragoça, e do avançado Ailton – cujo empréstimo pelo Hamburgo já expirou – para abrir uma vaga no lote de estrangeiros, por forma a assinar definitivamente contrato com Robert.
In O Jogo
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/4302/bananadance9hl4hf8uc7da.gif
Where's Punkt to open the new season thread, i'm too lazy to do it...
Vinnie Jones 07-07-2006, 08:21:PM Robert treina no Besiktas
Sem lugar nas opções de Fernando Santos, Robert está muito perto de vincular-se ao Besiktas. O esquerdino chegou a acordo com o emblema turco e já está, inclusivamente, a treinar às ordens de Jean Tigana, técnico do Besiktas. O treinador manifestou à sua Direcção o desejo de contar com Robert, mas pretende também avaliar ao vivo as capacidades do jogador gaulês, que se juntou ao grupo de trabalho do Besiktas em Paris, onde os turcos cumprem a sua pré-temporada.
A formação da Turquia conta também resolver, nos próximos dias, a saída do defesa Juanfran, que se deve mudar para o Saragoça, e do avançado Ailton – cujo empréstimo pelo Hamburgo já expirou – para abrir uma vaga no lote de estrangeiros, por forma a assinar definitivamente contrato com Robert.
In O Jogo
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/4302/bananadance9hl4hf8uc7da.gif
Where's Punkt to open the new season thread, i'm too lazy to do it...
Haha that banana. Im kinda like a computer newbie Rui. Could you send me that banana? Looks awesome.
RuiCosta_10 07-07-2006, 08:24:PM You just need to save it, like you save an image,
to put it in the forum you need to put this:
[*img]http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/4302/bananadance9hl4hf8uc7da.gif[*/img]
Without the *
:)
Vinnie Jones 07-07-2006, 08:24:PM Thanks alot mate :)
P.s Sry for nagging you again but is there any chance of using this one msn?
Vinnie Jones 07-07-2006, 08:28:PM Nvm figure it out already :)
Tiago_10 08-07-2006, 11:07:AM Shirts numbers for the 2006/2007 season, so far :
1 Moreira
2 Tiago Gomes
3 Anderson
4 Luisão
5 Léo
6 Petit
7 Marco Ferreira
8 -
9 Mantorras
10 Rui Costa
11-
12 Quim
13 Alcides
14 Manuel Fernandes
15 Paulo Jorge
16 Beto
17 Karyaka
18 Manu
19 Marcel
20 Simão
21 Nuno Gomes
22 Nélson
23 Manduca
24 Bruno Costa
25 Nuno Assis
26 Karagounis
27 Fonte
28 João Coimbra
29 -
30 -
31 Moretto
32 Bijou
33 Ricardo Rocha
34 Canales
35 Diego
36 Katsouranis
Numbers 8 and 11 still don't belong to anyone, may indicate we'll buy at least one attacking player.
Marco Ferreira with the 7 ? Not that numbers count much but still what a joke.
Oh and the 30' is waiting for Miccoli :)
SCP19O6 08-07-2006, 12:24:PM Who are Tiago Gomes, Bijou and Canales? Former B-team players?
Virgo 08-07-2006, 12:26:PM Robert no Besiktas
POR 2 MILHÕES DE EUROS
O Benfica chegou a acordo com o Besiktas para a transferência de Laurent Robert por 2 milhões de euros, segundo a imprensa turca.
O médio já tinha aceite a proposta do clube e, inclusivamente, treinou nas instalações do Besiktas ontem e anteontem. Faltava apenas o entendimento entre Benfica e Besiktas para que Robert pudesse jogar na Turquia, o qual foi alcançado ontem à noite.
Contudo, o Besiktas ainda não pode apresentar oficialmente o extremo francês devido ao limite de 6 estrangeiros na equipa. O clube negoceia a venda do brasileiro Ailton para a Grécia, e só depois apresentará Robert à imprensa turca.
Data: Sabado, 8 Julho de 2006 - 03:52
:rofl: what a deal if it's true.
Vinnie Jones 08-07-2006, 12:29:PM Robert no Besiktas
POR 2 MILHÕES DE EUROS
O Benfica chegou a acordo com o Besiktas para a transferência de Laurent Robert por 2 milhões de euros, segundo a imprensa turca.
O médio já tinha aceite a proposta do clube e, inclusivamente, treinou nas instalações do Besiktas ontem e anteontem. Faltava apenas o entendimento entre Benfica e Besiktas para que Robert pudesse jogar na Turquia, o qual foi alcançado ontem à noite.
Contudo, o Besiktas ainda não pode apresentar oficialmente o extremo francês devido ao limite de 6 estrangeiros na equipa. O clube negoceia a venda do brasileiro Ailton para a Grécia, e só depois apresentará Robert à imprensa turca.
Data: Sabado, 8 Julho de 2006 - 03:52
:rofl: what a deal if it's true.
Seriously don´t these clubs have scouts or something? I´m sure that with some observations they would realize that Robert is prolly worth 1/3 of that value and i´m being generous. If only Besiktas was around when you guys wanted to sell Michael Thomas. You guys would get a cool 3 million for him :bob:
RuiCosta_10 08-07-2006, 07:55:PM Who are Tiago Gomes, Bijou and Canales? Former B-team players?
Yep
Virgo, if that come true, transfer of the year!! Or decade maybe... :jacko:
Virgo 08-07-2006, 09:18:PM Diego was amazing today. Really surprised by him. Hope he keeps it up.
Punkt 09-07-2006, 03:20:PM MoM was Léo IMO. Diego was promising yesterday and i already knew his bombastic shoot from the Brasileirão. he could be very useful. Paulo Jorge was good too. Rui Costa even not at 100% of shape show class and it was the better of the match see him against using our shirt. Katsouranis is clearly in lack of fitness but made a great assist in the first goal. Manduca and Moretto were terrible. from the former B youngsters i liked Tiago Gomes and Canales. the chilean has great fighting spirit. maybe a loan to a league team would be a good option to him. Manú disappointed me a little.
PS: i already submitted a new thread, waiting approval. :ewan:
Moreira_Benfica 09-07-2006, 03:24:PM nice, i couldnt watch the game and i hear Moreira entered in the 2nd half.. how did he do?
NightCrawler 09-07-2006, 08:54:PM Moreira was regular. They didn't attack so much in the second half... they didn't attack much in the 1st half either but Moretto likes to screw up, he gave them one or two opportunities.
Tiago Gomes rulz btw, very good positioning and very nice cross. João Coimbra seems to have potential too.
Virgo 09-07-2006, 09:02:PM Tiago Gomes is nuts. In every match I see of him he makes dumb and violent fouls. He could have been sent off yesterday if it was a competitive match.
NightCrawler 09-07-2006, 09:12:PM I missed those hard tackles, but that's something good training can correct.. I guess.. :rolleyes:
Moreira_Benfica 10-07-2006, 01:05:AM just read Atletico wants to give us Kezman + 17m for Simao
NightCrawler 10-07-2006, 07:42:AM A transferência de Laurent Robert para o Besiktas foi abortada por Jean Tigana, treinador do clube turco, devido a um elevado seguro de saúde do médio, situação que pode abrir as portas ao Levante, outro dos interessados.
Robert ia ser apresentado hoje à imprensa turca, mas Jean Tigana resolveu cancelar o acordo do Besiktas com o Benfica e jogador francês. O extremo está agora muito perto de poder alinhar na Liga espanhola, situação confirmada por Pierre Froleau, empresário do médio: “Robert já podia ser jogador do Besiktas, mas surgiram uns problemas de última hora criados pelo treinador Tigana. Vamos negociar com o Levante e é bem possível que cheguemos a acordo nas próximas horas”, explicou o agente francês.
A transferência para o Besiktas, que renderia cerca de 2 milhões de euros para o Benfica, acabou por ser cancelada e é agora o Levante o clube mais bem colocado para adquirir Robert.
Hope is for the same amount of money...:s***:
Juventino 11-07-2006, 06:24:PM Well RuiCosta, your wish has been granted. :jap: Miccoli will join Benfica on loan again for a season.
http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=8080
Virgo 11-07-2006, 06:28:PM just read Atletico wants to give us Kezman + 17m for Simao
that would be fine by me.
Miccoli's return is great news. (Y)
Very good day for Benfica.
Now let's wait we get Kezman/Tristan and sell Simao and close the squad
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