The game is tonight at 9pm CET and this is a trophy in honour of Silvio Berlusconi's father and usually, the loser of this game will go on and have a good season.

Squads

AC Milan

GOALKEEPERS: Abbiati, Dida, Fiori

DEFENDERS: Cafu, Costacurta, Kaladze, Nesta, Stam

MIDFIELDERS: Abate, Ambrosini, Brocchi, Dhorasoo, Gattuso, Kakà, Rui Costa, Seedorf, Serginho

STRIKERS: Pozzi, Shevchenko, Tomasson



Juventus

GOALKEEPERS: Buffon, Chimenti, Bonnefoi

DEFENDERS: Ferrara, Birindelli, Tudor, Thuram, Zebina, Legrottaglie, Zambrotta, Pessotto

MIDFIELDERS: Emerson, Tacchinardi, Blasi, Baiocco, Kapo, Olivera,

STRIKERS: Zalayeta, Miccoli, Del Piero



I'll be expecting strong lineup from both sides since Capello and Ancelotti stated their desire to win this cup.

AC Milan

Dida

Cafu-Nesta-Stam-Kaladze

Gattuso-Rui Costa-Serginho

Kaká

Shevchenko-Tomasson



Juventus

Chimenti

Zebina-Thuram-Legrottaglie-Zambrotta

Kapo-Emerson-Olivera

Del Piero

Miccoli-Zalayeta



My prediction is a 1-1 draw and then Juve win on PKs and suck througout the whole season :crazyboy:

2-1 Juve.

Del P
Miccoli
Kaka

Oh I forgot to put my scorers..

AC Milan 1 [Shevchenko]
Juventus 1 [Miccoli]

no nedved, no juve win

milan 3 - 1 juve

milan 3 - sheva(2),kaka
juve 1 - del piero

Milan 7 (Sheva [3], Kaka, Gattuso [2], Stam)
Juventus 1 (Zalayeta)

Juve 0-1 Milan

shevchenko

Milan 2 Juve 1

Sheva and Kaka

Miccoli

Originally posted by rony31
Milan 7 (Sheva [3], Kaka, Gattuso [2], Stam)
Juventus 1 (Zalayeta)

If this happens... :D

Milan will capture this meaningful trophy.

Why is it in Italy there cant just be friendlys, there always has to be a trophy involved?

In honor of Silvio Berlusconi's father? Why?

Originally posted by rony31
Milan 7 (Sheva [3], Kaka, Gattuso [2], Stam)
Juventus 1 (Zalayeta)

ok then :)

clau post your prediction ;) a real one of course

nah juve will most likely lose. without neddy and trezegol will be hard, unless delpi and miccoli get touched by god´s finger (not like gettin fingered for the pervert ones :crazyboy: )


edit- oops i forgot. i say a 2-1 for milan, although i wouldnt say no to a win :)

Carlo Ancelotti assures that tonight’s Milan-Juventus is never a friendly encounter, least of all when the two Coaches are facing their former clubs.


“This will be a very entertaining game with two teams at the highest level,” assured the Rossoneri boss ahead of the traditional Trofeo Berlusconi. “I can tell you for sure that this will not be friendly in nature, as these sides never play for anything less than a victory.”


This will be the 14th edition of the contest at the San Siro and a bizarre superstition suggests that the loser goes on to win the Scudetto that season. Last year the Bianconeri won it 2-0, but it was Milan who triumphed in Serie A.


Ancelotti is forced to do without Hernan Crespo and Paolo Maldini for this match, while Juve do not have David Trezeguet or Paolo Montero in their squad.


“Maldini is out as a precautionary measure, so Kakha Kaladze will play in his position at left-back. Clarence Seedorf has recovered from surgery and will take the field in the second half.”


There will be even more competition for places with the arrival of Fabricio Coloccini, back from his loan spell at Atletico Madrid.


“He is a young and talented player who has the quality to be part of this side. I am also convinced that he will improve even more under the tutelage of masters such as Maldini and Billy Costacurta.”


Crespo will have to wait a little longer for his first goal at the San Siro, as the former Chelsea man pulled up with a thigh problem during the Italian Supercup win over Lazio.


“I am fine and the scare has worn off,” reassured the Argentine. “I spoke with the medical staff and they said I can be back at Ancelotti’s disposal next week. After a year of lighter training methods in England, it is obvious I would suffer some muscular problems upon my return to the Italian pre-season preparation.”



Two former coaches of Milan/Juve facing each other. Thats great! And the way Carlo is acting, I cant wait to see the Serie A Milan-Juventus (H)

Milan 2 Juve 1 Extra time winner by Milan

Milan 1-0

Rui Costa (90+4 min) :D

senseless trophy: Berlusconi=Milan, then Berlusconi Trohpy=Milan Trophy:D :crazyboy: so Milan will win 2-1

Juve won it last year 2-0 ;)

unbelievable exception:D

I'll watch the Basketball final.

good for you:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :mrpimp:

Originally posted by Bonzi
senseless trophy: Berlusconi=Milan, then Berlusconi Trohpy=Milan Trophy:D :crazyboy: so Milan will win 2-1

the berlusconi is actually the only trophy that aint senseless. not like the birra moretti and tim. this one has a history and its known to be a hard battle because at this time of the month both teams have to be already going at 100% if they want to do a good year. itll be good, but like mark77, ill be watching the italia argentina match :D
although i dont think will win it :(

Official Line Ups

MILAN (4-3-1-2): Dida; Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Kaladze; Gattuso, Rui Costa, Ambrosini; Kakà; Shevchenko, Tomasson

JUVENTUS (4-4-2): Chimenti; Zebina, Thuram, Tudor, Zambrotta; Olivera, Emerson, Pessotto, Blasi, Zalayeta, Del Piero

Great lineup (H)

care......

Ya Italy-Argentina(bball), Italy-Brazil(vball)







.... berlusconi trophy

as long as none of the Juve players get injured i don't care what happens...

Capello will obviously use this game to try out a few things before the Serie A gets going.

oh Juve goal!

really ? who scored ? (H)

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
JUVENTUS (4-4-2): Chimenti; Zebina, Thuram, Tudor, Zambrotta; Olivera, Emerson, Pessotto, Blasi, Zalayeta, Del Piero (H)

Juve have shown how much this trophy means to them (H)

Olivera :f***:

Ruben Olivera :|

im glad Capello is giving Olivera so much playing time... Lippi never did that.

he played so well vs Djurgarden as well.

He was supposed to be the future of Juventus. Don't know much about him though. Good news for Juve, even though this trophy is so pointless.

yeah I remember Moggi calling him "the best talent in the world" when Juve were linked to Kaká :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
Ruben Olivera :|


don't give Olivera that black stare ;)

he is our Kaka :rockman:

Post by Miccoli!!! ADP who?

Gattuso is screaming at Sheva. haha

Originally posted by mark77
Post by Miccoli!!! ADP who?


don't forget DP's beautiful flick vs Djurgarden already man :(


I like Miccoli a lot as well but Del Piero is Del Piero.

good thing Juve have both :)

where are you guys getting all the scores from?

gazzetta.it

Gazzetta.it

DP should play like that evey game and I won't complain.

Mistake by Tudor that could of cost us a goal. :rolleyes:

Fabio C. where are you?

Originally posted by mark77
DP should play like that evey game and I won't complain.


yeah man ... believe me... i know what you mean... but you and i both know he is going to have quite a few bad games during the course of the season; along with some magical spells. Thats the kind of player he is.

I want Capello to use both Miccoli and Del Piero and get the best out of both. Both are capable of some unbelievable football.

Originally posted by mark77
Mistake by Tudor that could of cost us a goal. :rolleyes:

Fabio C. where are you?



i like tudor..





....when hes injured that is.

Serginho almost scored :(

on comes the Broccoli

wow gazzetta pretty quick in updates. thank guys!!

Tudor will score a few own-goals and Milan will win. :crazyboy:

CMON JUVENTUS :)
looks like el pollo had yet another great game :D

come on Milan! score!!

or Zalayeta will score from a cross by Birindelli. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Originally posted by mark77
or Zalayeta will score from a cross by Birindelli. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Bloody hell.You had to remind me of that?

:kader: (H)

Serginho missed an open goal.

We aint gonna win..

come on juventus 10 mins to go. defence better hold on!!!

Originally posted by zka
Tudor will score a few own-goals and Milan will win. :crazyboy:

lol, i dont get why a team like Juventus would want Tudor, in my opinion i wouldnt even put him in the croatian first 11, but i dont really know their players.
He reminds me of Cipot, another young and inspiring defender from Slovenia, who sometimes just lost it, and shot the ball full power into throw-in, while noone was around him :).

he can score goals, even on the other teams goal ;)

Originally posted by claupastore
he can score goals, even on the other teams goal ;)

hehe, true, last year i think in one of the last games, i saw Tudor score, and i was shocked to say the least to see it wasnt Buffon holding his head there on the ground next to him :).

zebina hits the post :o
costacurta for nesta :o

Tudor can score decisive goals ,but often in the wrong net.

yes yes.. we get the point.. :|

good saves by chimenti :o :)

Originally posted by claupastore
zebina hits the post :o
costacurta for nesta :o

Traversone means a low pass or something like that. ;)

Originally posted by mark77
Traversone means a low pass or something like that. ;)

but also traversa means the post, maybe it was a big post hehe, but yeah makes more sense the other :p

only 2 minutes :rolleyes:

Full Time

AC MILAN 0
JUVENTUS 1

Scorer:

R. Olivera (46th min)

yay ! we won :) :hump:

game over.. 1-0 Juve

congratulations.

hopefully the curse will take its toll :crazyboy:

I can't believe Milan managed to lose.

Good for Juve.

alright :D

:hump:

I've paid my dues
Time after time
I've done my sentence
But committed no crime
And bad mistakes
I've made a few
I've had my share of sand
Kicked in my face
But I've come through
And I need to go on and on and on and on

We are the champions - my friend
And we'll keep on fighting till the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions of the world

I've taken my bows
And my curtain calls
You've bought me fame and fortune
And everything that goes with it
I thank you all
But it's been no bed of roses no pleasure cruise
I consider it a challenge before the whole human race
And I ain't gonna lose
And I need to go on and on and on and on

We are the champions - my friend
And we'll keep on fighting till the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions of the world

We are the champions - my friend
And we'll keep on fighting till the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions

j/k ;) :crazyboy:

Originally posted by zka
I can't believe Milan managed to lose.

Good for Juve.


maybe juve managed to win ;)

Originally posted by IceBlu
care......

(H)

anyway congrats to Juve. you won the so call "pointless" trophy. But it always good to watch a Juve-Milan game. I just hope this is the only win you'll have over us :crazyboy:

Originally posted by mark77

We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions

j/k ;) :crazyboy:


hurray! :D

we won a friendly!! :D :crazyboy:

Originally posted by zka
I can't believe Milan managed to lose.

Good for Juve.


whats that supposed to mean ? :|

Juve had more chances, played better and won....

youre making it sound like Milan lost to Como....

he's a Barca fan, what do you espect from him :rolleyes:

Ah well, pointless game anyway...:(

ill bet my right testicle that if milan would´ve won it, all you milanistas would be making a big deal out of it :)

We would be pleased, like all of you are, that's all. At least that's what it would happen with me. Btw, you could bet both, as i think having one testicle is more frustrating than having none.(H)

http://www.gazzetta.it/Foto%20Hermes/2004/08-Agosto/28/olivera2--310x210.jpg

Originally posted by IceBlu
care......

Originally posted by IceBlu
yay ! we won :) :hump:

:brow:

it's alright, you can have this win, dont expect any mercy in Serie A or CL though (H)

Originally posted by rony31
:brow:




if i cared i would have said much more than just "yay ! we won"

;)

Its rare that there is a match including AC Milan or Juve that I don't have a favorite to win in. This is one of those matches, pointless as it may be.

Originally posted by Grunger
Btw, you could bet both, as i think having one testicle is more frustrating than having none.(H)

nah, i can bet the regular one, and stay with the huge one. which compensates for the other one without a problem :D

so one of your balls is bigger than the other ? dude :|

you might wanna get that checked :p Seriously though, one testicle is enough to procreate.

my doctor says that i should be proud of the left testicle and display it around with pride :)



































btw



it was jsut a joke ;)

just some number...
now juve has 8 berlusconis and milan 6, plus the italian president but that doesnt count :crazyboy:

Originally posted by IceBlu
whats that supposed to mean ? :|

Juve had more chances, played better and won....

youre making it sound like Milan lost to Como....

It's not that.
It's the Berlusconi trophy so I'd expect Milan to win plus it's not like Juve fielded their strongest.
Generally I think Juve is better than Milan but I expected a win for Milan tonight.That's all.
Berlusconi must be pleased. ;)

Danny STFU.

ahhh word word.

i agree. Juve were without Nedved, Trezeguet, Buffon... i see what you mean.

Juve's weakened team shows how much depth they have overall. This is good news because if there are injuries then you can rely on the backup players to deliver.

Originally posted by IceBlu
ahhh word word.

i agree. Juve were without Nedved, Trezeguet, Buffon... i see what you mean.

and cannavaro ;)

Originally posted by zka


Danny STFU.

:boohoo:

Milan > Juve > Real Madrid = Championships > :sb9: > Barca

Barca are probably better than Madrid, they have a more complete squad and don't have English players!

yeah but barca has 5 years of only Copa Cataluya or Joan Gamper trophy (same as Berlusconi trophy) without any mayor title, and Madrid well... i don't need to say what they have won on those 5 years ;)

Originally posted by dannyeli
[BMilan > Juve[/B]

Yeah we saw that tonight.

A.C. Milan - Juventus F.C. B 0 : 1

Originally posted by zka
Yeah we saw that tonight.

A.C. Milan - Juventus F.C. B 0 : 1

Lol i'm sorry, i forgot to do what everybody does... don't waste my time in you. Anyway nice talk :ewan:

Barca beat Milan in a meaningless friendly.
Juve beat Milan in a meaningless friendly.
Meaningless friendlies are, that's right, meaningless.
Wait until the big competitions and we will probably see a different outcome.

akeel, are you a Juve fan? your name is 'villa4eva', so im confused.

and wats that flag in your sig?

I am a Villa fan (local club) but like Italian football, in particular Juve and Roma.
The flag in my sig is the flag of Pakistan.

Originally posted by dannyeli
Lol i'm sorry, i forgot to do what everybody does... don't waste my time in you. Anyway nice talk :ewan:

that's the way(H)

Originally posted by zka
Yeah we saw that tonight.

A.C. Milan - Juventus F.C. B 0 : 1
One game doesnt make Juve better than Milan. Plus it's a friendly.

ur only as good as ur last result

then why do Juve fans never shut up about their 27 scudetti, despite Milan winning it last season :brow:

Originally posted by rony31
then why do Juve fans never shut up about their 27 scudetti, despite Milan winning it last season :brow:
Touche.

Originally posted by rony31
then why do Juve fans never shut up about their 27 scudetti, despite Milan winning it last season :brow:


because the best team has the right to brag about their titles :rolleyes:

as simple as that
you can brag all you want about the last scudetto, but we have more :)

yeah but we have more cl titles and overrall international titles than you guys :rolleyes:

nobody says you cant brag about your intenational titles :)

Originally posted by dannyeli
yeah but we have more cl titles and overrall international titles than you guys :rolleyes:

We are the only team to win all European Competitions.:crazyboy:

we and River Plate have the most titles in football history :read:

My daddy is stronger than your daddy.

well im going to brag at the fact that one of my quotes made it into dannyeli's sig(H)


now let's all go back to the topic:rolleyes:

heh.. according to Channel 4's report, its clear Milan were attacking like 80% of the game but missed all the chances..

hope Milan improve on this..

anyways, a quote from the report

"There was also a curious moment when Shevchenko and Gennaro Gattuso had a row on the field after a misplaced pass, but within minutes they had hugged and put it behind them."

True Rossoneros :rockman:


EDIT : Highlights (mms://a1215.v9811.c9811a.e.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1215/9811/7d481d75/soccerit.download.akamai.com/9811/AcMilan/file_stream/9082_str200.asf)

I just watched the highlights myself and believe me, Cannavaro would have to do very, very well to improve Juve's defence.

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]


"There was also a curious moment when Shevchenko and Gennaro Gattuso had a row on the field after a misplaced pass, but within minutes they had hugged and put it behind them."

True Rossoneros :rockman:


so if two teammates fight, then they love their team?? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Shevchenko-[7]
I just watched the highlights myself and believe me, Cannavaro would have to do very, very well to improve Juve's defence.

great tackle by juve defence on JDT early on
wat a miss by kaka' in first half
wat a miss by no27 for milan 2nd half
wat a miss by unmarked zalayeta in the box, the fresh aired the header under no pressure, and DP basically put it on his forehead

shows every1 is a bit rusty i suppose

Sheva did great to set up both JDT and Kaka, but boy did they screw up :|

and Serginho's miss.............................. I know it was your weaker right foot but Jesus, are you joking? :nape:

it's a crisis for milan.
just like when any big team goes for about 2 matches without a win it's a crisis.
last year when juve went 3 games without winning it was a crisis.
arsenal got knocked out of both the fa cup and cl and it was a crisis.
real madrid got knocked out of the cl by morientes and it was a crisis.
emile heskey scored a goal and it was a crisis.
if crystal palace manage to win a game it will be a crisis.

Agreed. But not when both of them are friendlies and in one of them we played a team mostly of reserve players.

milan will bounce back of course.

No.. we are in crisis :(

:crazyboy:

Anyways, I've read that the Italian press is banging Kaká up like crazy!

Its a pre-season game... :|