ohhh yeahhh, I loved him in American Psycho and he'll be perfect as BATMAN!!!:rockman:

Originally posted by ComingSoon.net
Christian Bale has been cast in the starring role of Bruce Wayne in Warner Bros. Pictures' upcoming Batman movie, to be directed by Christopher Nolan and produced by Emma Thomas. The announcement was made today by Jeff Robinov, President of production for Warner Bros. Pictures.

Principal photography on the film is expected to begin in early 2004. The movie is written by David Goyer and Nolan, and will follow the early career of The Dark Knight.

Said Nolan, "What I see in Christian is the ultimate embodiment of Bruce Wayne. He has exactly the balance of darkness and light that we were looking for."

Robinov stated, "Now that we've found the best person to play Batman, we are really looking forward to moving ahead with the rest of our casting, and are excited about the exceptional group we are assembling."

Bale, who first drew critical attention for his starring role in Empire of the Sun, has starred in such diverse motion pictures as Little Women, Portrait of a Lady, Metroland, American Psycho and Laurel Canyon.

awesome !:rockman:

he freaked me out in American psycho. that was some performance.

http://wwws.warnerbros.co.uk/batmanbegins/

You can watch the trailer on the official website above and to be honest it does look far better than Batman & Robin, but not as good as Batman 1 & 2. Atleast Michael Cain is in the film to give it some credibility, and it looks as though this film has a more serious feel to it in comparison with Batman Forever and Batman and Robin judging by the trailer.

looks very decent if you ask me, thanks :)

Yeah, it needs to be real dark, that's what i love from the first one.

Even though i didn't like what they did to the batmobile ( made it more realistic), it does have a good cast, and the suit doesn't look as fake as it did in B&R.

People seen to be not very happy about Christian Bale as bruce. I must say, he has done some great roles, specially the one in Equilibrium, so i think he will do a great bruce.

What do you guys think of Cillian Murphy as the The Scarecrow?:S

the cast is all great. Katie Holmes is the only wild card there but also the only woman so maybe thats why her casting seems weird.

and I have heard good comments about Bale being here, not sure who wouldnt like him.
and yeah, Ive heard Equilibrium is great, but I havent seen it (I heard Matrix ripoff when it came out and it turned me off).
Bale was awesome in American Psycho though :rockman:

http://www.filmklubben.org/arkiv/host2000/bilder/americanstort.jpg


PS: The Machinist is turning out great so far too (Y)

nice. I've always liked Batman.

This one does look like a serious Batman movie .

Christian Bale .... Bruce Wayne/Batman
Michael Caine .... Alfred Pennyworth
Liam Neeson .... Ducard
Morgan Freeman .... Lucius Fox
Gary Oldman .... Lt. James Gordon
Ken Watanabe .... Ra's Al Ghul
Katie Holmes .... Rachel Dawes



Thats an awesome cast .... it even has Katie Holmes ! :rockman:

Im a big fan of Christian Bale as well.

I've been waiting for this movie for a while.

It looks like it will be either really good with an interesting story.

Or poor ****house.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Shiryu
Even though i didn't like what they did to the batmobile ( made it more realistic),...

the new Batmobile is taken from the Dark Knight comics so like they have that to back them up.
the Dark Knight comic are supposed to be the best Batman stories and the ones with most fans.

Originally posted by IceBlu
Michael Caine .... Alfred Pennyworth

Nice. didnt know Alfred had a last name (Y)

Originally posted by Hakeem



PS: The Machinist is turning out great so far too (Y)

Yes, a friend told me about "The Machinist". It does look like a very good thriller, just saw the trailer recently.

Bale looks like a skeleton in it though....:eek:

http://romanticmovies.about.com/library/graphics/themachinistpubb.jpg

yeah. he said that to prepare for the role he only slept 2 hours a night and ate just once a day and didnt eat any bread or anything that would make him gain weight :|

Originally posted by Hakeem

Bale was awesome in American Psycho though :rockman:



have you read the book? way better than the movie... the movie just felt too 'clipped' and disjointed. Waaaaaaaay to much was left out of the final cut. No need to go into details... kids are here :D

And hopefully this Batman can live up to the promise ... Spiderman proved that it can be done.

When's the release? Haven't seen any promos or ads :|

Summmer 2005.

What month is that in the US?

from June to September

Gary Oldman:rockman:

the tentative release date is June 17 2005

It's is directored by Christopher Nolan (the same director of the film Memento) and is ment to be very serious and spooky. I liked the first batman the best, the rest were dissapointing. The second one opened the door for sh!tness... especially because Batman was no longer this 'mysterious, arcane' type of person, he is well known and begins to make jokes and what not; the third and fourth were just bad.

This one is going to be really good though, I cannot wait for it to come out.

Originally posted by Hakeem
the tentative release date is June 17 2005

Hey that's my birthday (H)

Originally posted by Callan
Hey that's my birthday (H)

One day after mine (H)

This looks amazing!!!!
I cant wait to watch this movie. (Love the Japanese setting). You can download the trailer at the official site

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com

Any thoughts?

Personally Im a huge fan of Batman series (Though I admit the movies were kinda lame (especially 3 and 4).

The cartoon series really did get back to the roots of the show and thats why I enjoyed it so much.

looks like this movie will avoid the last 4 and start the franchise with a fresh start.

I've never really been into comic book/superhero films (or comic books and superheros for that matter) but I have heard that this is a cut above the rest so I will probably see it.

Christian Bale really doesnt look right to play Bruce Wayne IMO though (:\)

PS: I used to love those cartoons :p

I loved X-Men and Spider-Man cartoons when I was younger. I saw Batman too, but Marvel was much much better, the movies are so much better too........

what the hell :crazyboy:

Batman movies kick the sh*t out of anything made by Marvel

According to Hakeem (and Hakeem's opinion is definitive as far as I'm concerned) the original Batman films are really good. They certainly appeart to have good casts, and Tim Burton is an awesome director.

They can hardly be worse than Marvel rubbish like Hulk and X-Men anyway.

yes I meant the Tim Burton movies.

I tend to hate superhero movies as well but those two were good.

Sounds like it, but everyone really praised the Spiderman films when they came out, but when I saw them I thought they were really bad, so I'm not holding out too much hope.

I didn't find Spiderman really bad, thought they were watchable popcorn flicks, that's all. But some people rate Spiderman 2 as a masterpiece... and that piece of trash X2 is currently in IMDB top 250...

Yup lol - only good thing about that film was Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen. One of the worst films I have ever gone to the cinema to see.

Spiderman is good but a bit overrated. X Men (while not a fan) I found to be enjoyable.

DC hasnt had too many "Big" movies. Guess the first 2 Batmans and first 2 Supermans were very big while the rest were just from kinda pathetic (Superman 3) to completely laughable (Superman 4 and Batman 4)

This Batman could well be the best super hero movie of all time. (I actually dont know what could be the best super hero movie ever.......maybe Superman 2 or Spiderman 2 im guessing)

This Batman will hopefully be good and not disapointing, however I think the new Superman film will also be good and is already being underatted. Brian Singer is good, X-men is fantastic as is The Usual Suspects and I am sure there will be no disapointment here. Batman Begins has high expectations from a lot of people so lets hope it lives up to them. I personally think it will turn out pretty good after watching the trailers.

Hulk = trash
Daredevil = trash
Spider-Man = trash
Spider-Man 2 = trash

X-Men and X2 were very good movies.

Originally posted by $teauA
Spider-Man 2 = trash

X-Men and X2 were very good movies.

:| spiderman2 was much better than the xmen movies.


this batman seems to be different from the others in the sense that Gotham city is not as "big".

This movie looks like something new, instead of just the usual bad guy coming into town and Batman fighting him all the time. BTW Bale rocked in Equilibrium! :rockman:

Spider-Man movies were good, X-men 1 was okay, X2 was fantastic. I agree with the post about Singer, Superman should not disappoint. Singer is a budding mastermind.

I don't understand how people say that the Spiderman films and X-Men films are trash.

No, they are no Citizen Kane. But they weren't meant to be. Some good action, some good one-liners, and a balance between cinema and comic book.

The new Batman film looks great. The dark atmosphere has returned. I'm particularly glad of that because Batman & Robin destroyed all of that.

Maybe some people say they were trash because they didn't enjoy them.

I didn't think Spiderman 1 was that good, I don't think it was trash but I didn't enjoy it that much, so I never bothered to see the second. X-men on the other hand was a lot better, especially the second, which is underrated in my opinion.

The new batman films were not very good at all, the old ones were better, especially the first one. The new one will be better.

Spiderman 2 is the best Superhero movie with X2 being a close second.
of course, if you didnt like the first one then maybe you wont like it but Id give it a try if I were you. its really great.

Spider-Man 1 and 2 definately aren't the best superhero films ever made, the CGI toally destroyed the films in my opinion. I could clearly see it was an animated character flying around the city, no believability at all. The story was also weak in both, nothin campared to Superman 1 & 2 and Batman 1 & 2.

I justb realised we havent talked about the new trailer that was shown at the superbowl

http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/video.html

Though I wasnt excited about last year's teaser, this new one looks great (the third one in the website) (Y)

just got back from the movie and... meh :(

My Batman backgroud: Ive read lots of comics, but the animated series is what I truly love.
The movies, Batman and Batman Returns rule them all!
After those, I really liked Batman Forever. I think Val Kilmer was ok, much better than George Clooney in Batman & Robin but not even close to the awesomeness of Michael Keaton. I also loved The Riddler and Two-Face, and Im also a fan of Chris O'Donnell and his Robin. The only thing I liked about Batman & Robin was him and my beloved Alicia Silverstone.

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but Batman Begins... Christian Bale was good, but not very good. I think he was overacting a lot at parts, specially when trying to get answers from the bad guys, it was as if he was screaming at them with anger and wasn't the calm and dark Batman Keaton portrayed.
Cilliam Murphy was just perfect as the Scarecrow, as was Gary Oldman as Lt. Gordon. I loved the relationship between him and Batman.
Liam Neeson was great as Henri Ducard but the whole twist at the end SUCKED big time. Ken Wantanabe was totally wasted having only 2 or 3 lines.
Michael Caine was good as Alfred. Not much to comment on him though as it's a very small role. Katie Holmes was ok though I think her character was not very well written. She was too strong
Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox, I liked him, but I didn't like the whole idea of him introducing Bruce to the gadgets and the new batmobile, (which I didn't like either). And about the gadgets, I didn't like them. They were too real and I looking and not like the great gadgets Batman has. and I missed the yellow in the chest and the belt
And though I did like the character Ducard, I didnt care at all about Bruce's training and becoming Batman, and all this stuff took like the first 45 minutes of the movie and I was just dying for it to end and get back to Gotham.

overall, I think that the stuff they changed from the original story of Batman (like Jack Napier [The Joker] not being the one who killed the Waynes. And having Gordon be a Lieutenant was fine but he should've become the Commissioner by the of the movie but never happened) hurt my view of the movie. I dont like when they change stuff like this.
And so as an origin movie I dont think it was good, with the first Batman trashing it all the way, but I think the upcoming sequel, now that we dont need any introductions, will be great.

i still feel michael keaton is the best batman

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it's a hell of an error aint it :D

TROD.

who said 4 :| :p

I didnt like X-Men 1, but i did like X-Men 2, it was fun watching the second part. Spiderman 1 & 2 were good. Batman Begins is going to be a great one for sure, Bale is one good actor.

My full review (spoiler free) (Y)(Y)(Y)

Batman Begins is the start of a new era of my favorite superhero. Tim Burton's Batman and Batman Returns are perfect. Then Joel Schumacher took over and while I like some things of Batman Forever, it was still bad compared to the first 2, and then Batman & Robin came out it was just atrocious. Now Christopher Nolan takes over, and he changes everything we know about Bruce Wayne and Batman, but everything we know from the previous movies, original comics, and from Batman: The Animated Series which is my favorite Batman saga ever.

What was changed from the common knowledge mythology or added? We learn about Bruce Wayne's training, and how he became the Dark Night, and why he chose a bat as his symbol. I really couldn't care less about Bruce's training, even though during this part is when we learn about one of the future villains in the movie, Ra's Al Ghul. Still, it's a very good introduction.
Then Batman's vehicle not being the Batmobile. I didn't like the first pictures I saw of "The Tumbler" as it's called, and I still don't like it after seeing it in action. Yes, the action is awesome and the chase is excellent, but I just love the Batmobile, and I can't accept this thing as Batman's vehicle.
The Tumbler comes from where Batman's other gadgets come in the movie, and that place is a Wayne Enterprises division that works developing technology. It's a very good idea to put this in the movie, specially because it features a great character, but again, I just didn't care how Batman got his gadgets.
Another huge complaint is that we see Bruce's parents die, and yes we know how it happened, but here, is not Jack Napier (who would then be The Joker) the one who kills them in front of little Bruce, instead the killer here is just some thug who then goes to trial, declared free and is then killed by someone while leaving the court. That was so bad and a total waste of time (the whole sequence took like 15 minutes).

The whole idea of the symbol being the Bat is fear, and that goes on to be the theme of the movie, and here is the reason I didn't like the movie: the fear theme made the movie dark, way dark. Written by Nolan and David Goyer, this Batman movie is dark like Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns comics, in which the movie's style is based. This made for a completely different Batman than the one I love, the Michael Keaton Batman, cool and calm, inspiring fear with his moves and look and not by screaming to a guy's face. And that I hated, to see Batman in anger all the time.

So after my complaints, and knowing that I did not like the movie, I will explain why I still think the movie is excellent. It is excellent because everybody from Christopher Nolan to the entire cast to the production designers did a perfect job. Well, James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer's score doesn't come even close to the classic Danny Elfman made for Batman though.

I'll start with Christopher Nolan. I was so excited when I learned he was going to direct it knowing that since his masterpiece Memento was so original and different and just awesome, that he would do no wrong to this franchise. And his work here doesn't disappoint. The script they wrote is full of fear, and the whole movie feels like a horror movie set in a very atmospheric Gotham City like we've never seen before, trashed, chaotic, and just a very scary city to be walking by yourself at night.

Then the cast, which again, I was crazy in love when they decided to cast Christian Bale as the Bat and Bruce Wayne. American Psycho is one of my favorites movie, and one that has so many classic scenes and situations in it that is just amazing. Bale does an incredible work here, giving us a Bruce Wayne very scared and hurt as a young man, and then growing up into into the Playboy he needs to pretend to be. And his Batman is scary. While I'm not a huge fan of the Batsuit, the anger and rage and the energy he exudes when confronting the bad guys is amazing.

Katie Holmes (-Cruse?) plays Rachel Dawes. An assistant to the DA that grew up with Bruce and is supposed to be his soulmate. I think Rachel is the only badly written character in the whole movie. She's way too tough, going around the city wanting to take the bad guys down and even going against the mob. She's no damsel in distress, that's for sure. And the way she lectures Bruce all the times, just shut up bitch! After the ending, I'm not sure what's going to happen with her, if she's going to be around for the sequel, or maybe they make like in all the other movies when Bruce's women just disappear.

Sir Michael Caine plays Alfred, a kind of different one from Michael Gough's (who played him in the previous 4 movies but was not asked to play the part I guess. He's like 88 years old but he's not dead yet). Alfred is more of a father figure here, knowing when to tell his Master Bruce what he needs to know at the exact time. And even though he has very few lines, Michael Caine says much more with his expression. Great work by the Oscar winner here.

Recent Oscar winner Morgan Freeman plays Lucius Fox, the best character I did not care for because of the role he played in the story. Fox is in charge of the Technology development Dept. at Wayne Industries, and he's the one that gives Bruce the suit, all the gadgets, and the Tumbler. He also plays a part in the final instances of the story.
Also at Wayne Industries is Richard Earle played by Rutger Hauer. He's the man in charge of the company since the Waynes died and he's trying to split it. He's not very happy when Bruce comes back from his training since it was rumored he was dead but now that he's back he starts going to the office and see how things are going. Earle is not really one of the bad guys, but just the baddest in Bruce's life when he's not Batman.

Finally the best of the good guys is Gary Oldman playing James Gordon. First as a young cop and then as a Lieutenant (though not yet a Commissioner by the end of the movie), Gordon is perfectly written and this is his best incarnation so far. His relationship with Batman is great from start to finish. I just loved the character completely.

The bad guys are a few, starting with Ken Wantanabe's Ra's Al Ghul. It's a very small role and really one of my problems in the movie. There's a twist regarding this character towards the end and I thought it was just lame. A total waste of Wantanabe here who only gets 2 lines in English, 2 in Chinese (or another Asian language) and he only exchanges a few punches with Bruce for a minute. Him and his second at command Henri Ducard are the ones that recruit Bruce Wayne to be part of their group. A gang of highly trained ninjas who want to protect the world of the bad guys by killing them. Bruce accepts the training but once they demand of him to kill someone he resists.
Liam Neeson plays Ducard and is just a great character. He's Bruce's mentor and trainer. And Neeson even fights! It was just awesome. And even though Neeson is taking a million of these same roles lately, he does it perfectly and has a charisma that everybody would like to be taught anything by him.

Then Tom Wilkinson who plays mob boss Carmine Falcone. There's something weird in Wilkinson's performance. I kept remembering him in Normal and I just couldn't believe him as a criminal boss. He does have a moment of craziness towards the end that is really great. Attached to him is Dr. Jonathan Crane, the man in charge of Gotham Asylum where pretty much all the bag guys in Batman history have ended up at one point. Crane is played by Cillian Murphy and his work is excellent here. His transformation into The Scarecrow is just perfect, and he's one of the best villains Batman has seen in movies so far.

Batman Begins is a perfect movie that I don't like, but I can see how well done it is and how great the performances are. Also, I think is better than Nolan made it so different from the previous ones, because this way we can't really compare them, as they both represent two very different styles of the Batman mythology we all know and love.
If they keep the great cast and everybody that contributed in creating this new era of Batman that bring us our favorite superhero to the big screen, I'm sure this will turn into a great new saga of movies that I hope I can grow to truly love some day.

Great Review Hak...but I don't agree with you at all. If people want the "Perfect" first 2 Batman movies....just watch them again. It's pointless to make them exactly how they once were. This is by far the best Batman movie ever (and coming from a "fan-boy" too). One of the only times I've ever seen a theatre get up and give it a standing ovation.

The plot was good...but the themes were...Perfect.

(And neither the first 2 were perfect. I saw 2 and just fell on my knees laughing as PENGUINS were carrying Rockets to destroy Gotham city <let alone the Cat woman "9 lives thing" was almost as bad as Batman and Robin. <or when the Penguins actually carry the Penguin to the water...wow)


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Ra's Al Ghul's group represents a kind of "Revelation"(the Apocalypse....clensing the world and starting a new. Lot of that in the Bible.) Gotham represents the state of the world pretty much while Batman still believs there is hope in the people in it.
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The theme of "Justice" through different prospectives was incredible.
The entire movie was amazing....perfectly acted and 97% of the comedy was bang on. (Oh god the last newspaper clip had be on the floor laughing....you know which one)

Batman is finally shown here as he is supposed to be. He's not the wise cracking George Clooney Batman ("I just got my badsuit dry cleaned...hahaha") or the depressed Kilmer....or Keaton (who was the closest they got....but he needed to be SCARY and not just cool)

Bale was AWESOME. Justice imposed as a form of fear.....a symbol. They finally got it right. What a great movie.

Can't wait for Part 2! Things are looking up for this series.

Great Review Hak...but I don't agree with you at all. If people want the "Perfect" first 2 Batman movies....just watch them again.

thanks, and I agree.
That's why I say that my perfect Batman is the one from the first two movies because is the closest to the Animated Series which is my favorite version of batman.
I like Miller's novels and I understand them that's why I still think this movie is excellent despite me not liking it ;)

thanks, and I agree.
That's why I say that my perfect Batman is the one from the first two movies because is the closest to the Animated Series which is my favorite version of batman.
I like Miller's novels and I understand them that's why I still think this movie is excellent despite me not liking it ;)

I used to LOVE the animated series (Still do). What a great show that was...Mark Hamill as Joker. Bruce had a great voice too and all the episodes were just generally awesome and original.

The movies (Mask of Phantasm and Sub Zero) are also good, though Phantasm is far better.

Actually, pretty much all the Batman movies except for 3 and 4 were pretty good. (haha...even the original 60's one)

-Batman: The Movie (60's)- 0/5 (But Damn I never laughed so much in a movie ever in my life <especially the "Bomb" part>
-Batman (Keaton)- 3.5/5 (But as a Batman movie i'd give it 4/5)
-Returns- 4/5 (.....fun flick <it's not really that good for a "4" but I just have good memories of it>)
-Forever- 2/5 (ugh....pretty bad. Hated the new theme and the villains were just trying to "out-over act" each other. Robin wasn't that bad as I thought he would be)
- And Robin- 1/5 (I was 10/11 and thought it was absolutely horrible <the Visa card part totally killed any shred of life it had left>)

Batman- Mast of Phantasm- 3.5/5 <But for Batman it was 4.5/5 .........really got faithful to the Comic style and explored the "Revenge/Justice" theme <PHantasm>
Batman- Sub Zero- 3/5- NO point to this sequel <just a long episode>.....but It was still fun (Y) (Im a sucker for the series). Atleast it ended the Mr. Freeze saga once and for all.

Batman Beyond (another awesome show)- Return of the Joker- 3.5/5 <But as a fan I really enjoyed it. Hamill IS the Joker.

Batman Begins- 4.5/5 <But for Batman a movie....perfect 5/5.......they really did it.)


That's ALOT of Batman movies :p......what does everyone think of them?

Hakeem.....I have a question...........

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Did the scarecrow die? Like I spoke to people who hated 1 thing about the film......."How he dies". I don't think he died. But did he? (Doubt a TASER could kill you)
I bet he'll be in part 2 in Arkham.

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Nope, he doesn't die. he gets all intoxicated and leaves in the horse. Those are hints for the future because Scarecrow will later become Pumpkinhead (Y)
thanks Hak.

I saw it yesterday and omfg i almost fell asleep, the first oh idk 45 minutes of the movie were absolutely horrible and boring as hell. It got better as it progressed but still the beggining made me not enjoy it as much as I was hoping to.

PS: the bat suit looks fantastic though (Y)

I agree with the beginning, not as bad as some of you put it but still quite long. BUt it was sort of necessary because of the plot. However I liked this one alot, I think the next installment should be a classic. This style of batman is dark, direful, and a definite step down the right path for the caped crusader.

the estimate numbers for the weekend came up already and Batman Begins tanked. only 47 mill when everybody was expecting between 65 and 75 :|

Wow that's weak, but I can see why I imagine a lot of people came out from the movie with the same opinion as me and told their buddies not to waste their money.

I think 47 mill is a good first weekend opening, the theatre business has been at record lows in the first half of the year. I think it was bad luck for Batman, if it opened in around July 4 it would have fared much better IMO. And you gotta put it in perspective too, the other Batman films were not blockbusters and the latter two were pure crap so maybe fans were reluctant. This was the best showing for all Batman films so that should be some good news. Also opening on Wednesday took more of the 'fan boy' money from the weekend box office. In total since opening Wednesday Batman Begins hauled in $71.1 million, which was within expectations for a 5 day opening.

nah, the original predictions were 35mill on wed/thu and then 70mill for the weekend.
but then the movie only made 24mill on wed/thu and so the expectations were 60mill for the weekend.

i didnt see the movie but one of my mate was saying that it wasnt quite good as expected, it is more like too much of story than the action, but thats necessary because it is the first part. still i am going to see that movie. i think next part is going to be a good one, because all the of basic explanation is done in The Begins.

I was about to see this movie but once I saw the crap logo and batmobile, I changed my mind. Glad that I didn't watched it though, it would have confused me a lot.

I think 47 mill is a good first weekend opening, the theatre business has been at record lows in the first half of the year. I think it was bad luck for Batman, if it opened in around July 4 it would have fared much better IMO. And you gotta put it in perspective too, the other Batman films were not blockbusters and the latter two were pure crap so maybe fans were reluctant. This was the best showing for all Batman films so that should be some good news. Also opening on Wednesday took more of the 'fan boy' money from the weekend box office. In total since opening Wednesday Batman Begins hauled in $71.1 million, which was within expectations for a 5 day opening.

i agree. Bad luck. I mean this movie has become Super Popular on the net and between critics. (and people too). But I think people were reluctant to see it on the first weekend.

I've been speaking to many students around that have told me they plan to see it for sure this weekend because of all the good reviews it's been getting.
(Plus my entire family too was waiting to catch it 2nd weekend)
We might see a huge rise in the next few weeks.

On a side note: Titanic barely grossed anything as it was first expected on the first weekend I remember. And look what happened to that after all the 5 star reviews. (Not saying anything........just throwing it out) :)

Batman 2 vs. the Joker would be SO Huge. People absolutely love Batman vs. the Joker. Hope they make it.......and if the don't it would be probably the biggest catastrophy to not make a sequel out of a film that actually deserves it (ie: 2 fast 2 furious? Give me a break.)

I was about to see this movie but once I saw the crap logo and batmobile, I changed my mind. Glad that I didn't watched it though, it would have confused me a lot.

Yeah those Logos can be really confusing and can ruin a whole movie for people.
:rolleyes:

I'm not sure I would want another batman movie versus the Joker. It was awsome with Keaton and Nicholson, but I can't see anyone taking Jack's place as the Joker. I would rather want some other villain to be portrait in the next one. Batman surely has met quite a few in his time so it wouldn't be a problem finding a new villain.

I was about to see this movie but once I saw the crap logo and batmobile, I changed my mind. Glad that I didn't watched it though, it would have confused me a lot.

not sure i follow the logic here.i thoguht that the movie was good, i dont think that just a logo and a batmobile should change your decision that much

I personally thought that the tank car thing that Batman had was way better than the batmobile; ive never liked the batmobile, always thought it looked corny.

I personally thought that the tank car thing that Batman had was way better than the batmobile; ive never liked the batmobile, always thought it looked corny.

yeah. The batmobile in Batman Forever was "cool" looking....but it was pretty weak after all the hype.

also the Batman and Robin car was horrible (the 1 seat car)

I really hope that Mark Hamill can play the Joker. He has his voice down and if he can act like the Joker then he would be the best Joker ever.

It's too bad that due to what happened in the film that we probably won't see a story like The Long Halloween in the future Batman films. That could've really showcased his detective work and it was set around the beginning of the Batman years which would've been perfect.

I really have some high expectations for the next movie. IMO this one was so well done, part of the reason I say that is because the past movies were 100% **** and I honestly expected this one to be about 95% ****. I love the way they did the villians in this one, not too over the top.

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We share the same taste in a lot of movies, but Hakeem I thought this movie was great. I thought Bale did a great job, but he did drop the ball in one scene when he was trying to get answers from that dirty cop (playing the EXACT same character he did in 2 Fast 2 Furious, right down to hair and wardrobe). Kind of overacting by Bale, but overall i thought he did an excellent job playing a young batman. I thought everybody in the cast did an excellent job, with Cillian Murphy standing out as scarecrow. I swear I saw his head get cut off on the horse though, being a sort of joke with a headless 'Crane' leaving on a horse.

My only complaint was that the opening part with Bruce Wayne in Asia stretched a bit too long, and kinda slowed down the overall pacing.

Having Batman pretty much able to fly/glide was a great touch as Batman doesnt really have that much going for him compared to other 'superheroes'.

That whole Katie Holmes-Tom Cruse PR stunt currently going on ruined her part in this movie.

did anybody else find the scene with bruce wayne arriving at hotel with 2 'hos' very odd?

I always thought it was joker that killed bruce waynes parents. I wonder who will play joker in the next movie :brow:

I think the box office 'disappointment' had a lot to do with parents not allowing their younger kids to see the movie, as this movie was very dark and graphic. A 9 year old boy would definately be scared sh*tless in those scarecrow hallucination scenes.

Of all the 'comic book' movies out there, I gotta say this is my favourite. Id have to see it again though.d

just saw it lastnight and i was thoroughly pleased. heard alot of hype going in and wasn't disappointed.

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i really liked how they tied in the joker reference at the end. bale imo did a fantastic job as bruce wayne.

there was one noticeable difference between this movie and others...how bruces parents died. but i got around that, as i like how this one played out.

the only real problem i had with the filming was with some of the fight scenes. they were so close and extremely fast so it was kinda hard to follow sometimes

go see it

1. I had some issues with Nolan's filming. As modena_10 said some scenes and not just the action ones were just too damn fast. I noticed even some jokes went out of pace due to this problem. Maybe a bit lack of experience of Nolan with this kind of movies.

2. I hate Katie Holmes... why couldn't they get a real woman instead? I mean if Nicole Kidman was in Batman 3 and that film sucked why couldn't they get a more talented actress. Katie Holmes as a state prosecutioner? Come on... what's next, Paris Hilton as a rocket scientist?

Just got back from seeing it with a couple of friends. It was great to see the girls we took getting scared when the guy would drug people and he put on the mask. Great BRILLANT MOVIE



THE ENDING WAS THE BEST WAY TO GO OUT



JOKER!!!! OMG I still think Michael Keaton is the best batman and the worst GEORGE "WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING" CLOONEY



rating:10/10 everyone will love it

agree with you guys about the fight scenes. I went to see it again last night and the fights were definetely bad. you could see anything (N)

and the cape, great point there Mikey. first time I saw the movie I didnt notice it that much but last night I was watching the whole suit in detail and everyhing and the way Batman uses the cape rules (Y)

2. I hate Katie Holmes... why couldn't they get a real woman instead? I mean if Nicole Kidman was in Batman 3 and that film sucked why couldn't they get a more talented actress. Katie Holmes as a state prosecutioner? Come on... what's next, Paris Hilton as a rocket scientist?

Not as bad as when Denise Richards played a chemical engineer in 'The World Is Not Enough'.

I didnt think there was anything wrong with Holmes acting, just the Tom Cruise part ruined it. Sure, they couldve gotten a better actress, but they couldve done a lot worse.

I think the 'fast/close-up' fighting was supposed to show how Batman could be invisible and such, a throwback to the training he had with Ducard in Asia.

Hakeem, I'd recommend you watch Equillibrium. I wouldnt say its a ripoff of the Matrix, but it definately borrows some ideas from the book 'A Brave New World' if youve read that. But come on, any movie with 006 involved is worth seeing.

It borrows from the Matrix as much as The Matrix borrows from Anime movies like Ghost in the Shell

I know about Equillibrium. I actually have it on VCD but never seen it :p

My rating:

7/10 - "Only fans should see it, the rest, run for your lives! "



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I have pretty much the same thoughts as everyone else here. The rating only jumped one point up, because of Bale, nothing else.

The fight scenes, were badly butchered, choreography? where was it? who knows. Katie Holmes?, mediocre perfomance.
If it hadn't been for Bale (yet again) saving some scenes between them, I would had walked out.

Beginning of the movie?, bad. Everything ran so fast, so out of place, i'm sure this was not the directors fault, just plain old hollywood influence at its best. "The director" did manage to make up for it though, up until the part where the city runs crazy. That was it, I could would had thrown my pop-corn at the screen (but it was the only thing keeping me from screaming something out).

The end?, came nothing shorth of being cr*p, "Oh how great, so i sat through all this, just to know that the real-thing comes out sometime next year!"

I swear, I almost killed some people that were behind me, that applauded at the credits. :nape:

I gave it a 9/10. Batman was in need of a rejuvination and reinvention. The turnover for the role of Batman in the previous films was a sign that the franchise just wasn't working and the films were sucking. This was the perfect way to reinvent the franchise, the follow up films better not dissappoint...

I've never really been a big fan of the 'comic book movies', but I have to say, this one is B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T.

I f*cking loved it. :rockman:

"Didn't you get the memo?......" :ewan:

great movie, dont know what some of you are on about how this is bad, best comic movie i have seen, exception of x-men 2. Althought when he is liek screaming at the bad guy for answers its hilarious.

sorry to bump this back up.


only saw it yesterday....... amazing. enjoyed it more than most other movies i've seen this year (keeping in mind i haven't been going to movies as often this year as i have in the past)...... on my to-get-on-dvd list (which is in fact largely hypothetical, as it has grown to over thirty and i'm broke and have far more urgent things to save money for like a car)

I really wonder who the Joker is going to be.

All I know is that the Joker will be much darker and different than the Jack Nickolson character (who by the way Re-invented the Joker Persona <as the TV Series had pretty much the same Joker>

"Oh no he's been using brand "Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" "
"Why didn't anyone tell me he had one of those......things?"

Nickolson :rockman:

Hope they don't put the Penguin EVER again. I've never liked him. The Burton Version is way off to what the Penguin is supposed to be (he's just some random gangster who has a big nose....not even crazy). LAME. Even in the cartoon he was stupid.
I thought DeVito was awesome as the Penguin. But I've never liked the character in the first place.

These should be the next villains
1) Joker (Confirmed bor B2)
2) Two Face (Confirmed for B3......and not the same "Forever" Tommy Lee Jones Two Face.....that was horrible.
3) The Riddler- Love this character and I think Jim Carrie did him pretty well. (Though all of Batman's villains are created or represent something bad of Society.........what or why was the Riddler created? Like what does he represent ? Never got that.

4) Bane-- The real one. (not Batman and Robin Bane)

WE'll see I guess. THey say in the England press that Sean Penn will the Joker now. Not a bad choice...

there's no chance in hell Sean Penn is going to take that part.
Crispin Glover would my dream choice for The Joker (Y)

there's no chance in hell Sean Penn is going to take that part.
Crispin Glover would my dream choice for The Joker (Y)

http://www.villainousvamps.com/crispinjoker.jpg

:rockman:

i REALLY hope they do joker justice. he is by far my favorite villian, and i think he is a brilliantly created character. he is somewhat an innovator in my mind, and i would be traumatized for life if the next batman movie butchered the joker character, because i love this batman, and can only hope the next one takes the bar further. they should stick with the dark batman theme, it really works.