I normally post in Calumn's thread now when talking about movies, but this one deserves its own thread. its going to be HUGE

Sky Captain is a wonderful, awesome adventure. A true masterpiece.
I loved the whole comic book style and I definitely felt that some parts were inspired by other movies/comic books like the first city scenes where I was hoping that Superman would appear flying from the sky, or the scene in the forest that had a feel to the first Jurassic Park that I loved. It also had a Star Wars feel to it. Marvelous.
The story happens in Gotham City in the '30s so it has that old feeling too.

As we've all heard, this movie was shot entirely on a blue screen so the actors (and the stuff they're grabbing) are the only real things in it. And yeah, it looks all computerized, but it looks great.

The performances are great with Jude Law and Gwyneth Paltrow taking command of the story as Sky Captain himself and Polly Perkins, his former love, respectively. They play them like what it is, an old couple getting back together after a long time and the comedic lines are great.
Angelina Jolie co-stars. Her part is small, as Capt. Franky Cook, all eye patched but very sexy and she was also a former lover of Sky Captain. Her character is awesome, my favorite of them all by far.

I really liked the movie, but I think I'll start loving it after repeated viewings, as this first watch had me checking the CGI all the time which kind of distracted me keeping me from enjoying the story to its full, so I'll see it again as soon as possible. A must see movie, sure to be a classic.

Sounds like Crimson Skies...the game.

The fact that it is shot entierly on a blue screen is something I don't like. I mean, I am not a fan of 'old films' but I am not a fan of films that use complete CGI - reminds me of the second Matrix. Luckly the Matrix has an overall generally good story to it, otherwise I woudln't have liked it. Anyway my point is, that this is going to be the thing of the future, in the next few years more and more and more and more films will be shot in a studio with only a blue screen... hopefully it doesn't all turn out that way... I know when I am making films I won't be using a blue screen... :p

This one seems ok, hopefully the story is good. When I first saw the trailer it seemed to be like a comic book, especially one of those old superman cartoons where he took on robots that flew exactly as they did in this film...

I don't know if I want to see it though, I might wait until it comes out on DVD... I don't know...

Anyway, I don't really seem to like a lot of films that you do... I like some, I dislike a lot, and I think a lot are great... Lately you have liked a lot of films that I have thought not to be that great... eg. you give Van Helsing 4 stars, I give it something like 2... you love I Robot and hate the Village, I love the Village and hate I Robot... Perhaps one day we will agree on something.

Anyway, without seeing this I would say that I don't think it will be anything to fantastic... and I don't think it will be a masterpiece and be remembered for years... but I won't go in with expectations, hopefully I do find it enjoyable and hopefully I am wrong. :)

Cheers
Callan

The entire film being CG doesn't really appeal to me. I might go see since CG is part of what I'm studying but I can't see it being that good. I might be wrong though.

I wonder how long it'll be until we see only entirely CG characters implemented into real world, never been done before (an entire film with only CG is what I'm talking about here).

Originally posted by PhiLLer
The entire film being CG doesn't really appeal to me. I might go see since CG is part of what I'm studying but I can't see it being that good. I might be wrong though.

I wonder how long it'll be until we see only entirely CG characters implemented into real world, never been done before (an entire film with only CG is what I'm talking about here).


Yes we can only wonder... I hope the answer is never.

Originally posted by Callan
Anyway, I don't really seem to like a lot of films that you do... I like some, I dislike a lot, and I think a lot are great... Lately you have liked a lot of films that I have thought not to be that great... eg. you give Van Helsing 4 stars, I give it something like 2... you love I Robot and hate the Village, I love the Village and hate I Robot... Perhaps one day we will agree on something.

actually, I hated Van Helsing. really hated it.
and yeah, I loved I robot but I didnt hate The Village. at first, the ending dissapointed me but after thinking about the story alone and not thinking about being a Shyamalan twist movie, Ive come to terms with myself that it is an excellent movie :)



Originally posted by Callan
When I first saw the trailer it seemed to be like a comic book, especially one of those old superman cartoons where he took on robots that flew exactly as they did in this film...

thats exactly what I felt while watching this movie. and it actually is based in a comic book.
and dont think about the CGI, cause its not meant to be something in the future, I mean, the story happens in the 30's. and the look of it reminds me of those old movies from those days, specifically Casablanca. the whole CGI thing with the glowing white surrounding the characters is exactly like Casablanca (Y)

What's with the excessive use of the blurred effect in that movie? The movie seems like one giant blur. As for the movie itself, I saw the trailer for it when I saw Spider-Man 2, and I didn't think much of it.

this looks like the stupidest movie ever to hit theatres

Originally posted by rony31
this looks like the stupidest movie ever to hit theatres

yeah it does look stupid... I really hate these big over-hyped Hollywood blockbuster type movies, they always tend to rely on special effects and big name actors that are actually only mediocre when it comes to talent. Besides that the storylines are usually pretty stupid.. can you say.."Independance Day"? I rest my case.

nah, this is nothing like that.


the blurred effect is because this is meant to look like a 30s or 40s movie, since the story transcurs at those times. like I said, It looks like Casablanca which also had that blurred effect :)

and about the story, its based on a comic book, so its not some hollywood popcorn movie meant to make money. its a sci-fi adventure like nothing else (Y)

and he fact that it was CGI I dont know why its a problem for you guys, its more like an animated story with real actors if you think about it.
I mean, you sound like someone living in the 70s and bashing Star Wars and BEFORE it comes out just for being computarized (:/)


but hey, if you're not interested then you're not interested, Im just saying that what I saw was a sci-fi masterpiece adventure (Y)

This movie will be a bomb, if it isnt, im disappointed in humanity. It reminds me of LXG, which was a funny movie (and it wasnt a comedy;))

bah, sci-fi haters :nape: :(


you guys are getting me too worked up. Im out. I know what I saw :p :)

Hmmmmm dunno, all cgi and blue screen stuff (N) where have all the classic skills gone into making a great movie? :o

Originally posted by Hakeem
bah, sci-fi haters :nape: :(


you guys are getting me too worked up. Im out. I know what I saw :p :)

hey I love sci-fi, but to me there are two categories...good sci-fi (Blade Runner, Alien, Aliens, etc..), then the really cheesy crap. I guess I can't say much about this movie since I haven't seen it yet, but this one is definatly gonna wait until it;s out on video..

I understand what you're saying there, but I think a lot of people are judging the movie as 'horrible', without even seeing it, just because they know it was all done in CGI.

when did I ever say anything about the CGI? :| it just looks like a stupid ass movie, regardless of effects

I wasnt talking specifically about you :p just in general is what 'people' are saying.

Originally posted by ::shinji::
yeah it does look stupid... I really hate these big over-hyped Hollywood blockbuster type movies, they always tend to rely on special effects and big name actors that are actually only mediocre when it comes to talent. Besides that the storylines are usually pretty stupid.. can you say.."Independance Day"? I rest my case.

Agree. Independence Day was class though :mrpimp:

i haven't been to the movies in 2 months now so i am not eager to spend 10 bucks on any old movie.


dunno i might change my mind if i see some trailers or something.

This movie has been very highly rated so far:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sky_captain/

Just because it is special effects focused doesn't mean it won't have life to it... But it will be more of a fast paced exciting adventure life, and less of a sit back and watch the grass grow life.


I am still a sucker for Angelina....

Originally posted by PhiLLer
The entire film being CG doesn't really appeal to me. I might go see since CG is part of what I'm studying but I can't see it being that good. I might be wrong though.

I wonder how long it'll be until we see only entirely CG characters implemented into real world, never been done before (an entire film with only CG is what I'm talking about here).

ahem.. Final Fantasy: the spirits within

but its not entirely CGI. unlike FF, the actors are real here (Y)

And FF is a good movie if you ask me. People just follow the trend to bash those movies with a lot of CGI stuff, maybe to act old school or something.

I agree that FF is a bit over the top considering it was all CGI (but i liked it anyway), but i dont see nothing wrong with the scenarios being CGI with real actors (as long as the acting is good).

true that. I didnt hate FF, but Im not a fan of those videogames, so I dont know, I treated it like an CGI animated movie and it was just ok, not bad.

I don't care what people say, i may go see it tomorrow.

Along with Hero, Innocence, and RE:apocalypse, and maybe i'll be able to squeeze in Mr. 3000, but i don't know.....:confused:

Originally posted by Shiryu
I don't care what people say, i may go see it tomorrow.

Along with Hero, Innocence, and RE:apocalypse, and maybe i'll be able to squeeze in Mr. 3000, but i don't know.....:confused:


all that tomorrow?? wow... u going to a movie marathon or sth?

I still am not sure if I will go see it or not...

well... the japanese has a few totally CG movies/animes... they've been doing it for a while... but it's just that usually what ppl don't know, ppl don't like.

Well, my friend Mikael works at the theater, so he gave me and a couple of friends some free passes. Believe me, i surely will not miss any movies....lol.....


We've done it before, like three weeks ago, though the movies weren't as good then.....:(

Mr. 3000 is the only movie opening this weekend that I dont care for (not a bernie mac fan here (N) ).

so, so far for the 9-17 weekend:

Sky Captain: Classic
Silver City: Boring
Wimbledon: watching it tomorrow
Mr. 3000: I dont care

:p

Originally posted by Hakeem
true that. I didnt hate FF, but Im not a fan of those videogames, so I dont know, I treated it like an CGI animated movie and it was just ok, not bad.

I'm a huge fan of Final Fantasy, and although i was dissapointed that the movie didnt have anything to do with any of the games except being called Final Fantasy, it was still a good movie in my book.

Well, just got home.


Sky Captain: Surprisingly good, (Y) (Y) .
Innocence: What a piece of art, being a fan of the series, i'm not in the least disappointed. Even thought i do think the original japanese one is better, dialogue wise.(Y) (Y)
RE- Apocalypse: :( , if you thought AVP had redefined the word bad, think again.(N) (N)
Hero: Same as before, quite good.(Y)

MR.3000, well i have no idea, my friend got tire and wanted to leave already....lol :D

nice work there Shiryu (Y) told ya about Sky Captain. could elaborate what you liked? :)

Im watching Ghost in the Shell 2 next week probably though I havent seen the first one :$ Im trying to :drevil:buy:drevil: it before seeing the second one

Originally posted by Shiryu
RE- Apocalypse: :( , if you thought AVP had redefined the word bad, think again.(N) (N)



wow... 99% of the people i talked to liked the movie... but your review is a complete 180. i might have to rethink watching this...

yep. I liked RE2, though it all depends if you liked the first one too and your view on the adaptation from the games.

Originally posted by Hakeem
Im trying to :drevil:buy:drevil: it before seeing the second one

PS: if someone knows when can I do that PM me :D

Originally posted by Hakeem
nice work there Shiryu (Y) told ya about Sky Captain. could elaborate what you liked? :)

Im watching Ghost in the Shell 2 next week probably though I havent seen the first one :$ Im trying to :drevil:buy:drevil: it before seeing the second one

Hadn't seen anything like it for a while, it was quite a refreshing experience. There we're so many factors they used that i found very interesting, one of them being that nice feeling of adventure ( a la Crimson Skies meets Metropolis) that kept me pleased.:D Then again, I suppose my decison is based more on my past experience with films. I can clearly see why the casual movie viewer wouldn't like it. Some of the "humor" wasn't as well elaborated as i would had wished, but it was tolerable. Some of the characters i did not fell did so well, in contrast to some of their past works...*cough* angelina*couchg*.... but it didn't bother me that much. I was too busy enjoying the movie.:p



Hmm...
I don't think viewing the First GITS will help you that much with Innocence. That movie is too complicated, too much information being splashed at you. It will only make you feel more confused about the storyline, believe me. If you do see it though, try to look for and get a better understanding about the philosophy involved. Nothing is borrowed by Innocence from the first GITS, only the "under" plot. Also I do suggest you get to know the characters more, otherwise they may feel a little too empty.

You can "borrow", the almost entire second season of the Ghost in the shell's "Stand Alone Complex" series.

Here:


The epidsodes are just as good as the movie, there's nothing "anime-cliche" ( that should be a new word....lol) about them, it would be a nice watch. Plus you will get to know the GITS world and how it works.
;)

I agree that in order to fully enjoy Sky Captain, you have to have some geekness in you with all the references it makes: did you see Godzilla attacking Tokyo in the newspapers? the big King Kong venture at the bottom of the sea? the Excalubur Sword at the end? oh, and Sir Laurence Olivier??? -> awesome :bob:



and about Ghost in the Shell, they showed it on cable last night (4am) so I TiVoed it :D

Hahaha....exactly what i was saying....:D



@ SRB

Well Apocalypse is just your standard shoot'em up movie. Gives absolutely no emphasis to character developement , or storyline for that matter. "Oh here we have some cops and some zombies, cops kill zombies and move on", repeat that a couple of times and there you have Apocalypse. Does the movie care to shed a little light on the background of these "characters" while this is happening?, nope. I guess it just assumes all people that will see it are die hard RE fans.:rolleyes:

The only reason i rated it lower that AVP..... cinematography. I was like, "what the hell is this!", all the time. I do wish i would have actually have seen the fight between Milla's character and The Nemesis, but sadly all i got was body parts flying around the screen. :o


All i would ask from this prduction, please don't make a third part, stop killing this genre once and for all. Just , leave a little credibility left for went this (http://www.alone-in-the-dark.com/)comes out. :rolleyes:

went to see it again today. Im in love with this movie (Y)(Y)(Y)

**** man, do you like work on a theater or something????

nope. but I get a lot free advance screenings for the movies so I see them for free before they're release and then if I really like them I pay and watch them again :p

Hakeem do you seriously think this film is a Classic? :confused:

I mean... Star Wars: Classic. Indiana Jones: Classic. Pulp Fiction: Classic. Lord of the Rings: Classic. Shawshank Redemption: Classic. Do you seriously believe that Sky Captain is up there with these films?

If you do then I am going to watch it, but I THINK that you might be a bit over exagerating.

And that brings me back to the point that I don't rate films to high.

I believe it. I loved the movie. everybody is so concerned about the CGI, and nobody talks about the story. I mean, this is classic tale. the hero and the lady set to save the world from robots. what else can you ask? :p and thats exactly what people have been saying, Sky Captain has the feel of Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Arc. excellent. :)


but really, I dont know why people didnt go to see it this weekend. yes, it finishes first for the weekend but with like 8 millions less that RE2 which is fun IMO but a really bad movie at the same time.
and classic, I loved, and I know people that are loving it even more (Ebert, which sometimes Im totally against, gave it 4 stars and a 10, and reading his review is realy beautiful (http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-captain17f.html) but like I said, if it doesnt make money then its a miss generally speaking but it'll still be a classic for me :)