What do you guys think of this movie SAW?

Looks pretty freaky! :eek:

NK.

yep. been anticipating it for a while. looks great.

the premise:

Obsessed with teaching his victims the value of life, a deranged, sadistic serial killer is abducting morally wayward people and forcing them to play horrific games for their own survival. Faced with impossible choices, each victim must struggle to win back his/her life, or else die trying...

:D Yup! Although my taste for horror films has gone over the past year or so, this one looks to be a real shocker! Might have to give it a watch.

Hopefully it won't wind up with the many others out there that claim to be frightening and leave you looking at your cinema ticket, with a tear in your eye and less money in your pocket. To be honest most horrors are damn right crap!

NK.

MAn just from lookin at hakeem's sig it gives me the creeps

this sounds much like the German film 'Funny Games'

sounds like a rip-off from that japanese movie... "battle royale"...where a class trip to a nearby island turns terribly wrong when they were forced to kill eachother in order to survive...

battle royale is awesome. BR2 wasnt so good :(

Battle Royale is W*NK! How corny is that movie? Perfect example of a stupid movie...

NK.

uhh, I think I might be seeing 'Saw' this next Monday with the director and writers in the theatre :bob: (H)

how do you manage to do that? :(

maybe i missed your explanation that you're a big movie star (in case can i please have your autograph, sir, please...? :D ) but how'd you get the perks. i want perks... but i did get a cookie in another thread

Originally posted by SRB
how do you manage to do that? :(

like I said, check your local TV and radio stations websites. or make a search on goggle for advance screenings chicago. thats how I found most of mine :p

example: your http://www.chicagofilmfestival.org site has lots of screenings I know. plus the festival which is really cool and Im hoping to go next year maybe :D

http://www.moviecontests.com also has screenigs in Chicago and Boston ;)

Looks as if it will be a bit too much hack 'n' slash, a bit too little plot, but I will still go see it if I can fit it in between all the other great films coming out around now.

No, I think there's quite a sadistic story behind all the evilness.

Looks freaky!!! :eek:

NK.

Originally posted by Hakeem
like I said, check your local TV and radio stations websites. or make a search on goggle for advance screenings chicago. thats how I found most of mine :p

example: your http://www.chicagofilmfestival.org site has lots of screenings I know. plus the festival which is really cool and Im hoping to go next year maybe :D

http://www.moviecontests.com also has screenigs in Chicago and Boston ;)


thank you very much :D

hopefully i'll be able to fit in an appearance with my hectic schedule... school and work suck when paired together. thanks a lot man (H)

yeah like the others said it does sound much like battle royale. i though that battle royale was really good. i didnt hear about it until my friend invited me to come over and see it, so 4 of us went to my friend's house and we all watched it on the 2nd to last day of school:rockman: it was a fun day(H)

yeah!!! I got an email with the invitation for tomorrow's Screening of Saw with the Director and Writers there for a Q&A :bob: :mrpimp:

Just got back from an advance screening of SAW with Director/Writer James Wan and Star/Writer Leigh Whannell in the theater for a Q&A. Awesome Movie!

The movie is like a mix of Se7en and Cube with a lot of gore and a lot of very tense scenes. The actors play it very good and Leigh Whannell in his acting debut is very believable and has some very good comedic parts too.

The plot is simple, two guys wake up in a room and they're chained to some pipes. They can't get out and there's not much close to them. They start finding stuff to use to escape and clues from the person that got them there. With many scenes being flashbacks to how they got there and a lot of great scares, the movie plays very good, and the ending, which I wont spoil at all, is very cool.
And there were only a few scenes when you'd go like "do that!" and the character would get in trouble for not doing something that was obvious, but all in all it didn't hurt the movie so it was ok.

Jason and Leigh said after the screening that they actually didn't have many deleted scenes. "Just a few seconds cut out for gore" they said and only one deleted scene that didn't make sense and was crap. The movie was very cheap too, they said, though they were only allowed to say "under 10 million".

So in resume, and cause I love how it sounds, I Just saw SAW and it was Awesome!!! :bob: (Y)(Y)(Y)

Originally posted by Hakeem
They can't get out and there's not much close to them.


I don't understand this sentence.... u mean clothes?? or u meant they are being chained close to eachother?

must be late..... and u are sleepy...

oh well goodnight... I'm going to sleep also...

nah, that there's nothing close to them that they can grab to try to break the chains or anything.
and they're not chained to each other nope :)

i wanna see the movie... but i heaven't seen previews for it or anything... i'm sad :(

I got the two posters, the one with the hand-giant version, and the one with the foot-large version, signed by both the director and the actor.

they are Australians from Melbourne btw :bob:

Geez Hakeem, you and your crazy advance screenings :crazyboy:

I saw a preview for it, it looks good (and scary)

Can't wait for this one
Anyone knows when it'll be in Europe?

Sounds like a good movie.

I just got back from seeing this one again. second time I see it before its release :D
still excellent (Y)

2004 Horror/Suspense Movies:
- The Grudge sucked IMO
- Shaun is awesome but not total horror
- Undead I hated it
- Exorcist: The Beginning I didnt hate it but still not good enough
- The Forgotten sucks big time
- RE2 is laughable
- AvP is even more laughable
- Open Water was a total disappointment
- The Village was just good imo. should've been better
- Dawn of the Dead was good too but too many laughs

SAW is the best horror movie so far this year (Y)(Y)(Y)

Saw's a good movie, but it wasn't as good as I anticipated it to be. The whole concept of the movie is unique and all, but it was poorly executed. The excessive flashback scenes were a bit of an annoyance, and Danny Glover had a crappy role, he got totally screwed. He hardly had any dialogue or screen time, he was idle through out most of the movie, which is a bit of a disgrace to him. Oh, and onto the acting; absolute horrible acting. Cary Elwes + Leigh Whannel = HORRIBLE ACTORS, enough said.

The best part of the movie is the ending, though. It'll blow your top off. I watched the ending like 20 times.

Just got back from seeing this one. Best movie in a long time. I dont remember seeing a better movie recently. The killer is a mastermind.

I know there is a Film Thread but i thought this movie and this review of mine deserved its own thread.

I'll give you people who didnt see it one last chance: SSSPPPPOOOIILLLERRSS(this fantastic movie doesnt deserved to be spoiled in any way so LEAAVVE if you havent seen it):










Here is my long, in-depth review in which I ask you guys questions which hopefully you will be able to maturely answer because i wanna be serious about this discussion.




WOW!

By far the greatest horror movie in the past few years with immense suspense!! My heart was pounding from the VERY FIRST SCENE!. Yes, the first scene of the movie captures you immediately. The style of the movie/producer fit so well with the concept. And what makes it even better is the fact that it's considered a "low-budget" film. The REAL killer kind of reminded me of the killer/madman in the movie "Phonebooth". He chose his victims systematically based on the morally wrong things they were doing (according to the killer), based on what they didn't appreciate about life, and based on not appreciating LIFE ITSELF.

I was extremely shocked and in awe when that "dead" body in the middle of the room started getting up and me realizing that HE was the real killer. This technique has been utilized in other movies as well, but it was executed ever-so gracefully in this movie.

The clues and every progression in uncovering them were all placed in a perfectly pre-meditated fashion. I loved the "death traps" the killer set for his victims. The one I loved most was the one in which the man was naked and covered in a flammable substance in a dark room with numbers written all over the wall, a safe, and a candle. I don't need to explain why I chose this as my favorite. hehe

As with every man-made thing, this movie was not flawless, although they are not crucial enough to ruined this masterpiece, (well maybe one flaw...ill list that one last). Here are three flaws, and I would like your feed-back on them:

1- In the scene where Dr. Gordon's wife managed to get the gun from the "pseudo-killer", why didn't she shoot him in his legs and feet!!???!! That would have rendered him motionless, thereby still keeping him alive and get him to tell her where her husband was held captive. I was so pissed at her for not doing ANYTHING!

2- This flaw in the movie really got to me and I tried finding the reason for it after the movie. Near the end when the cell phone was ringing near Dr. Gordon, he was trying to reach for it but it was slightly out of his reach. I was yelling out "Take off your shirt!!! Use your shirt!!". I mean, this is what HE TOLD Adam to do when Adam was trying to get the tape-recorder from the middle of the room. Rather than using his shirt to get the cell-phone, like an idiot he chose to use his shirt to cut his foot off!!! Since he had his shirt off, couldnt he have used it to get the still ringing cell phone?!?!?!?!?! The only excuse I could come up with was that by that time, Dr. Gordon was on the brink of insanity and could not think straight.

3- And here is the biggest plot-hole in my opinion: The fake-killer was the hospital worker. The REAL killer made him torture Adam, Dr. Gordon, and his family. And the reason the hospital worker agreed to listen to the real killer's commands was because the real killer injected some kind of poison into the hospital worker. The arrangement was that if the hospital worker carried out the killings, the real killer would give him the antedote for the poison which only the real killer has. Now you're trying to tell me that the real killer somehow created a new poision/virus Syphon Filter style, injected it into the hospital worker, and the hospital worker just accepted it?? In this day and age, you're trying to tell me that the hospital worker could not go to ANY clinic, lab, or hospital and explain his situation?!?!? They could have done blood tests on him and find out what the poison/virus was! AND HE WORKED IN A HOSPITAL!!!!! UGH!!! You're trying to tell me that the killer was THE ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET who knew the cure for this "very rare poison"?????!!!!!

Here is a 4th "flaw" that I just read on some other message board:
Why did that hospital worker terrorize the wife and daughter with the gun and stethoscope if he was a victim of the real killer also?

Anyway, overall i give this movie a 9/10. I was tempted to give it a 10 but the above-mentioned "flaws" resulted in a 9. I would like everyone who reads what i just wrote to give their feed-back.

Im merging these since we already had a Saw thread ;)

about the Flaws, I do agree with some with them, and I also thought that the whole subplot with Danny Glover was totally unnecessary, but for some reason, any of that made the movie bad for me.
I still love despite that :)

and so...

1- this is something that happens all the time in movies, and nobody EVER does it for some reason. I could name 100 movies when this could've had happened and didnt :S

2- this is something that I forgive for the following reason: he heard the shots and screams, and he got crazy. he knew that the only way that he would get out of there would be by cutting his foot off, cause even if it was his wife the one that shot the killer, then the killer could be dead and then nobody would ever find them.

3- this has a simple explanation: the guy was a murderer, and he already managed to inject him and let him live in exchange for that task, so what if he'd go to the hospotal and tell them about the poison, the guy was a killer, and he would probably kill him if he didnt accept to do it.

4- were they on the phone with Dr. Gordon when when he did that? cause if they were, then is easy, to scare them more and more and make Dr. Gordon crazy so he'd kill Adam.


my flaw that maybe Im not remembering when they said it was: what did Adam do to be there? how was he not appreciating life? he was just a loser photographer with no life, but he wasnt stealing and he wasnt the one blackmailing people with his pictures, he would do it for somebody else (Danny Glover in the case of Dr. Gordon) (:/)

Adam was a pawn, he had nothing to live for and was ultimately going to get screwed over at the end anyway, regardless of the outcome. Adam had nothing to live for, really. That's why he got screwed at the ending.

The only excuse I could come up with was that by that time, Dr. Gordon was on the brink of insanity and could not think straight.

That's usually the case most of the time.

Originally posted by Hakeem
cause even if it was his wife the one that shot the killer, then the killer could be dead and then nobody would ever find them.

3- this has a simple explanation: the guy was a murderer, and he already managed to inject him and let him live in exchange for that task, so what if he'd go to the hospotal and tell them about the poison, the guy was a killer, and he would probably kill him if he didnt accept to do it.

4- were they on the phone with Dr. Gordon when when he did that? cause if they were, then is easy, to scare them more and more and make Dr. Gordon crazy so he'd kill Adam.

That's why i sed she should have shot him in the legs and feet, thereby still keeping him alive.

The reall killer injected the faker killer with the poison. Like I sed, he couldve went to a hospital, get cured, and at the same time, have some police gaurd him just in case the real killer wanted to kill him for not carrying out the task.

No, the wife and girl were not on the fone when they were being terrorized with the gun and stethoscope.

OMG just came back from seeing it.You guys have to see it.But if any of you's have already seen it, can you tell me wat the song they play during the ending credits is it says like blood runs through my vains..................... I really wanna download it but i dont know wat its called or who its from.sUM 1 HELP ME PLZ!!!!!

Originally posted by gagiz
... if any of you's have already seen it, can you tell me wat the song they play during the ending credits is it says like blood runs through my vains..................... I really wanna download it but i dont know wat its called or who its from.sUM 1 HELP ME PLZ!!!!!

here's the soundtrack http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002WZSNU/qid=1099190425/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-1575269-0079322

most of the songs are by Nine Inch Nails (Y)

Edit: I dont think the songs in the soundtrack have lyrics though :(

I dunno if this has been said or not but it sounds like Se7en, or at least reminds me of that type of film... and se7en is good so hopefully this will be... :)

Doesn't come out in Aus for a few weeks, I will go see it. (H)

yep, it does have lots of Se7en-isms (Y)

the director and the actor (they also wrote the movie) are from Melbourne btw ;)

Just got back from this movie. Excellent concept, poor execution. HORRIBLY mis-cast and really loses its edge towards the end. Here's the major points I want to make:

- This was a very good movie up until the last 20 to 30 minutes. Suspenseful, disturbing and captivating. Unfortunately it turned into an unintentional comedy towards the end. Horribly scripted and acted ending to what could have been a quality film.

- Cary Elwes has NO business in this film whatsoever. Who did the casting for this movie? Elwes is best as a comedy actor. When he's done serious films in the past, he's always played characters that don't show much emotion to begin with. He's about the last guy you would want for this role.

People in the theater I was in couldn't stop laughing during the last 20 or so minutes. I personally wanted them to shut the hell up. But in retrospect, it's hard to blame them. The poor acting and poorly written dialogue, the failed attempts to create tension were just begging for it.

"Saw" could have made a great Se7en-like thriller but instead it ended as a cheesy B-flick. It had elements that were original and parts of the build-up were brilliant. It just couldn't hold up until the ending.

great movie, dont really see anything wrong with it AT ALL. I liked it a lot, and im going to see it again, this time with a girl. (H)

Nicely put, Run. My sentiments exactly.

And yeah, the album is pretty straight. "Hello Zepp" by Charlie Clouser = (Y)

About Adam, its really simple, the killer, who would die in a year or two, was angry at Adam, a healthy young man, for doing nothing with his life. Rather he chose to live in a ****-hole house, he chose to waste his life away taking pictures.

But I don't understand why Zap was there? What did he do to end up faced with the task of murder? If anything, he should be the last guy to be faced with that, he seemed to like the real killer, at least in the hospital scene.

Originally posted by AhmedK
he seemed to like the real killer, at least in the hospital scene.

Zepp was conveying a message to Dr. Gordon during that hospital scene.

Jigsaw is a genius!!!!Very creative, but sick ways of making ppl kill themsleves.I havnt seen seven yet but i want to tho. Up to now, Saw is the best horror movie ever!!!!!!:rockman: :rockman:

The real killer said that the key to the lock of the chain was in the bathtub, but at the beginning the light thing had the key attached to it and went down the drain.I think thats why he was left in the chamber to rot. If he wouldve had the key the killer wouldve let him go.


Btw do you guys think Dr.Gordon got away during the end? Did the killer catch up to him and kill him, even tho its not his "style", did he die of massive blood loss, or do you think he made it and got the police.

where does the story take place anyway, i mean wat city was it filmed in?

Ugh, this movie is horrid.

It's a really good concept, but the execution, acting, mindless subplots just totally ruin it.

Some parts are scary, the flash and the little clown guy scared the piss outta me.

Overall, I give it a 5/10.

Originally posted by gagiz
Btw do you guys think Dr.Gordon got away during the end? Did the killer catch up to him and kill him, even tho its not his "style", did he die of massive blood loss, or do you think he made it and got the police.

I dont think he got away. Jigsaw probably locked him in the building and he died of blood loss.
but for sure that Jigsaw would kill him cause then he would be a killer which he wasnt yet as he hasnt killed one yet.

The part where Gordon started to saw his leg off was disgusting!!!:(

Yeah it was :S
am guessing thats why they called the movie 'saw' :confused:

I was actually hoping so more of that scene. at least until get got to the bone or something. what 5 more seconds of that scene could've done there is unbelievable :D

The U.S. version was edited.

I heard they showed a lot more in other countries...

And that you actually saw the chick going through that dude's intestines to find the key :o :(

you do see that scene in the American version.

when I saw the movie the first time with the director and ator in the theatre someone asked them about that and they said that the same cut was shown everywhere, and that they only left out a few seconds that were too gory (maybe 5 seconds) and a scene that was really bad and didnt make sense.

Originally posted by Hakeem
you do see that scene in the American version.

Are you sure? I didn't see it... Maybe I looked away, but I heard people on IMDB saying the same thing.

I sis see the scene though it was just 2 or 3 seconds.

I guess they do have a longer version of that scene

Originally posted by Run DMB


- This was a very good movie up until the last 20 to 30 minutes. Suspenseful, disturbing and captivating. Unfortunately it turned into an unintentional comedy towards the end. Horribly scripted and acted ending to what could have been a quality film.



People in the theater I was in couldn't stop laughing during the last 20 or so minutes. I personally wanted them to shut the hell up. But in retrospect, it's hard to blame them. The poor acting and poorly written dialogue, the failed attempts to create tension were just begging for it.

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Same thing happened in the theatre i was in. People all around me were laughing towards the end.

That exchange between the doctor and Adam at the end was extremely corny. I think this was done on purpose. You got the feeling like, oh this is gay. And you thought the movie was gonna end. The director did this to throw you off. Then when Adam picks up the tape recorder, it hits you. It hits you harder, because you though the movie was over. All of a sudden, the people in the theatre arent laughing anymore, right?

Good movie

Originally posted by xxxFLYERxxx
Same thing happened in the theatre i was in. People all around me were laughing towards the end.

That exchange between the doctor and Adam at the end was extremely corny. I think this was done on purpose. You got the feeling like, oh this is gay. And you thought the movie was gonna end. The director did this to throw you off. Then when Adam picks up the tape recorder, it hits you. It hits you harder, because you though the movie was over. All of a sudden, the people in the theatre arent laughing anymore, right?
Yeah it was kinda hard to tell if it was done intentionally or not. It just seemed like something out of a B-movie towards the end. If it was intentional then it's just a bad decision IMO because for a movie like this to really work you have to make it seem realistic (even though it's not). Like "The Ring" - that movie makes no sense when you think about it but it worked because it created this creepy athmosphere that made it seem like it was really happening.

I like the revelation at the end, I just think if they would have handled it a little differently they could have had a potential horror classic on their hands.

good movie........how the hell did he stay still for so long???? Grade: A-, good but could have been great........my fav. movies
1. City of God (brazilian film, has it all)...gangster film, the rest r in no particular order: Momento, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Snatch, Scarface, American History X, Boondock Saints, Pulp Fiction, The Usual Suspects, Resorvoir Dogs, Amores Perros(mexican film), The Godfather, Lord of the Rings, Se7en, Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2, Gladiator ......i'm sure i forgot 2 or 3. cant think of them right now.

Originally posted by ronnifan9
1. City of God (brazilian film, has it all)...

City of God is a fantastic movie, with kick-ass scenes and the typical crazyness from directors that come from the commercials business. However, I think non-portuguese speakers won't catch a good part of the clever dialogue and funny slang.
'PEGÁ GALINHA!' (H)

what does "pega galinha" mean?

something about a chicken probably :p

just watched this today

it was said before, I'll say it again:

great concept, TERRIBLE execution. the acting was terrible, Lawrence couldn't get any emotions right, and Adam sounded like Otacon from Metal Gear Solid :confused:

still, brilliant movie, could've been a classic if it wasn't for the poor casting

Originally posted by ronnifan9
what does "pega galinha" mean?

'Grab the chicken'. Just watch the movie and you'll see. :)

i saw the movie....but cant remember the part where he says that....ohhh....now i remember, whey they're chasing "rocket" down the street with the chicken right?:crazyboy: