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ngyc
19-11-2005, 07:28:AM
you got ronaldo (H)

Zlatan
19-11-2005, 10:36:AM
and Kaka. :gavin:
You've been building up quite a reign there in Florence haven't you?

Filipower
19-11-2005, 10:41:AM
hey, PSVFOREVER, how good are fabio grosso and bonanni? i've got them both playing(grosso as a left winger and bonanni as a center midfielder, with attacking attributes) and they're just awsome...grosso never plays below 8 and bonanni scores goals from outside the area in in almost every match :p

PSVFOREVER
19-11-2005, 10:55:AM
Both are good, I use Grosso as a left back with a lot of freedom, he mostly acts as a winger, his passing is pretty low though. Only 70% success rate, he takes some good free kicks though (Y) Bonanni was great for me, he worked himself in the Italian team pretty soon, but then he got a big injury, and after that his performances werent that good anymore. He did manage to perform good enough though to be a starter for Italy in WC 2006.

Managed to sign some new players too:
Lugano, 12m € Sao Paulo
Costacurta 50k Milan (H) Just for fun (H)
Zokora 9m € St Ettiene
Rossi 3m Man Utd


Zokora is coming next season, as I already bought 1 non EU player: Gladstone

Socrates
19-11-2005, 02:51:PM
and Kaka. :gavin:
You've been building up quite a reign there in Florence haven't you?

Well im pretty far into the game now and i bought both of them this year :hump: My first big singing i guess you can say. Although im going to need a new CB next year, Samuel Kuffour 34 years old next year:( He was so good for me.

Juventino
19-11-2005, 03:33:PM
Wanna post a screenie of your team socrates? By the results it must be a pretty decent team... :p

Socrates
19-11-2005, 04:59:PM
Wanna post a screenie of your team socrates? By the results it must be a pretty decent team... :p

Sure
http://img494.imageshack.us/img494/89/fiorentinateam3bi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now off to watch some real matches :ewan:

PSVFOREVER
19-11-2005, 05:45:PM
What a waste of talent for Bojinov :(

Socrates
19-11-2005, 05:48:PM
What a waste of talent for Bojinov :(

Luca Toni will be 33 next year :p ;) or 32 i cant remember right now :$ So i wont have to buy a new ST when Toni is done (C) just a cheap backup.

Socrates
19-11-2005, 11:31:PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8992/dirtymilan9hz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Milan equals dirty bitches, 5 players injured Kaka was the fifth.

ngyc
20-11-2005, 01:00:AM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126299&stc=1

(H) poor wenger

Socrates
20-11-2005, 01:09:AM
I hate it when SI scheduals like this
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5877/hardschedual2ya.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This would never happen in real life, at least i dont think so.

ngyc
20-11-2005, 03:46:AM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126300&stc=1

poor madrid (H)

Socrates
20-11-2005, 07:04:AM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126300&stc=1

poor madrid (H)

You know just as you post this, check this out
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/214/madridownunited7zk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
HAHA, im still Fiorentina BTW, what a coincidence :rofl:

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/1264/bsbsbs2ch.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
What a load of BS :kader: I better go through to the next round.

PSVFOREVER
20-11-2005, 01:05:PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8992/dirtymilan9hz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Milan equals dirty bitches, 5 players injured Kaka was the fifth.

Why did you sub Ronaldo and Duff though? They were hardly injured, they couldve easily played the whole game (look at the condition)

Frostwolf
20-11-2005, 01:17:PM
They have the green injuries which are so f*cking annoying, if they play more than 30 minutes with that they get bullsh*t injuries after the match.

Zlatan
20-11-2005, 01:34:PM
I had someone who was 'green' injured and he was out for 6 months having broken his leg, so from than on I always subtituted the 'green' injuries.

Socrates
20-11-2005, 04:34:PM
Yup i never want to risk them getting injured so i try and sub them off as soon as they get injured.

Áļéאָ
20-11-2005, 10:06:PM
unless uve no option but to keep them in

ngyc
21-11-2005, 02:26:AM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126302&stc=1

i just realized that the player's history is not included their CL or other cup records?

Johnny_Big
21-11-2005, 02:56:PM
Yeah, it looks like it only counts the main league games.

Socrates
21-11-2005, 05:23:PM
Wow, i have never had so many players on the team of the year. :clapwap:
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9747/8playerswow0mm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Zlatan
21-11-2005, 05:47:PM
I had eleven players selected in the team of the week. But never in the team of the year.

:o

Socrates
21-11-2005, 06:18:PM
I had eleven players selected in the team of the week. But never in the team of the year.

:o

Where you the only one playing that week?? :crazyboy: or did you just crush a team 15-0??

PSVFOREVER
21-11-2005, 06:33:PM
They have the green injuries which are so f*cking annoying, if they play more than 30 minutes with that they get bullsh*t injuries after the match.

I always leave the green injured players on, if the game hasnt been decided uet, IF their condition doesnt drop unusually quick. If they do have very low condition, i sub them. They hardly get injuries then.

Zlatan
21-11-2005, 09:00:PM
Where you the only one playing that week?? :crazyboy: or did you just crush a team 15-0??
Both really, there was another game, but apparently there weren't any outstanding players there or it was just some sort of a bug. Don't know.

PSVFOREVER
21-11-2005, 10:50:PM
My 2nd season is decent so far, 6 wins and 1 loss in the league, including victories vs. Milan (4-1) and Roma (2-0). Lost unlucky vs. Juve (3-0)

Failed to qualify for CL (3-2 win and 2-1 loss) (N)(N) Never lost in the qualifying round before so far. Did qualify for group round of the UEFA cup.

Took over Macedonia too (Y)(H) Rejected Holland for it :p . First match a 3-3 draw vs. Poland, with a 93th minute goal from my 38 year old Ciric.

My probably biggest achievment in Fm06 so far though: (H) In a group with Italy, Czechs, Slovenia and Poland, all good teams

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126310&stc=1

yoyo913
21-11-2005, 11:54:PM
nice!


keep us updated

ngyc
22-11-2005, 02:01:AM
just complete my second season by winning CL, EPL and League Cup. release Park Ji-Sung, Scholes, Keane, Recoba at the end of the season :p sell Saviola to Sevilla by 9m and loan Cicinho to Betis.

get Bonera by 7m who works perfectly with ferdinand at center. get Ben Arfa and Shinji Ono for free :) Ben Arfa is great, i'm lucky to get him for free (6)

i'm coaching Brazil at the moment :p beat Paraguay and Ecuador by 4-1 and 3-1. can someone reckon me a great Brazillian keeper? since Dida retired from international, i can't find any decent keeper to call up for Brazil squad. currently i'm using Bruno as my keeper

ngyc
22-11-2005, 02:04:AM
Yeah, it looks like it only counts the main league games.

if i'm not mistake, previous FM/CM does included player's record in other competition. correct me if i'm wrong.

so, is this another "incomplete" part by SI?

Socrates
22-11-2005, 02:36:AM
if i'm not mistake, previous FM/CM does included player's record in other competition. correct me if i'm wrong.

so, is this another "incomplete" part by SI?

Yes it use to include everything but now it dosnt :kader:

Check this out, wow what a great start to the season expect for the tie :jambo:
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4305/wowcrazystart7fi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

yoyo913
22-11-2005, 04:07:AM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126312&stc=1

too many?

(H)Ganea, Ruben Sosa(H)

(6)

I just got this job a few months ago, had to work hard and pull them from last place (which i did amazingly), start of a new season now and i've just gone on a crazy signing spree, i'm gonna have a versitily squad and sell of lots of excess during the winter break. Not decided on a tactic yet but i've been succesfull in the past with coming up with one.

Filipower
22-11-2005, 02:46:PM
good luck man, you're gonna have a hell of a team:rockman:

PSVFOREVER
22-11-2005, 05:12:PM
just complete my second season by winning CL, EPL and League Cup. release Park Ji-Sung, Scholes, Keane, Recoba at the end of the season :p sell Saviola to Sevilla by 9m and loan Cicinho to Betis.

get Bonera by 7m who works perfectly with ferdinand at center. get Ben Arfa and Shinji Ono for free :) Ben Arfa is great, i'm lucky to get him for free (6)

i'm coaching Brazil at the moment :p beat Paraguay and Ecuador by 4-1 and 3-1. can someone reckon me a great Brazillian keeper? since Dida retired from international, i can't find any decent keeper to call up for Brazil squad. currently i'm using Bruno as my keeper

Gomes always becomes the best goalie in the game for me. Except for his poor rushing out.

Slovenia-Macedonia 1-4 (H) At the score of 1-0 they got red though. 3 goals from corners (H)

kingpug
22-11-2005, 06:10:PM
I had eleven players selected in the team of the week. But never in the team of the year.

:o

I had 11 players in the starting 11 and 1 in the sub for team of the year :p

yoyo913
22-11-2005, 08:43:PM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126317&stc=1

Socrates
23-11-2005, 12:37:AM
http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/3281/weirdtable1cq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

52 goals in 14 matchs :wootman:

Rustydusty10
23-11-2005, 04:32:AM
52 goals in 14 matchs :wootman:

WOW!! send me your tac plz?

Socrates
23-11-2005, 01:50:PM
WOW!! send me your tac plz?

Check the Super Tactics thread. Remeber to change the passing for your players to suit them because we dont have the same players. Also i left coners and throw ins on default so you can set that to your system if you want too.

Zlatan
23-11-2005, 02:16:PM
http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/3281/weirdtable1cq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

52 goals in 14 matchs :wootman:

How come you only have played 14 games while the rest has already played 18/17 games?

Socrates
23-11-2005, 02:30:PM
How come you only have played 14 games while the rest has already played 18/17 games?

No clue, first season that this has been like this. I an even with everyone else now on matches though. My players are all tired :kader: One more pic here. I have always thought that the way SI schedulas was messed up anyways. Like have 4 very hard matchs in a row than a Italian Cup Semis match than play either Juve or Milan right after that. :rolleyes: Than play the Leg 2 of the Italain Cup right after that. Pazzini :rockman: He still has so many more years to play :lui:
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/6483/pazziniwow3ry.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

PSVFOREVER
23-11-2005, 03:24:PM
bah, that must be too easy, 169 goals halfway through the season...

Zlatan
23-11-2005, 03:33:PM
It's not for the season it's in his whole Fiorentina career ;)

Filipower
23-11-2005, 03:47:PM
:rofl: 169 goals in half a season..that would be the best player in cm/fm ever.



and it'd be great:(

Socrates
23-11-2005, 06:05:PM
169 goals in half a season :boyaka: He may be Pazzini and amazing but he aint no Tsigalko (H)
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4162/messedupmatches7qn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Talk about a hard month:(

PSVFOREVER
23-11-2005, 06:29:PM
Oh right, misread the article :( I thought Fiorentina had a new record, not the player Pazzini.

Macedonia-Armenia 4-1 (H)
Kazachstan-Macedonia 0-2

3 players are suspended vs. the Italy game :( Including my absolute star player Goran Pandev (Lazio Roma)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126322&stc=1

Socrates
23-11-2005, 06:35:PM
Nice job with Macedonia there. Man Czech Republic sucks :O What the hells going on with their squad?? I tried to manage both national team ( Italy ) and club at the same time but i got anoyyed with picking players for Italy and focusing on Italy while also working on Fiorentina, so i just let go of Italy. Hows your Palermo game going?

PSVFOREVER
23-11-2005, 06:51:PM
2nd in the league, top is close though, after 13 games. 2 points behind Roma. Milan is 3rd, and I really fear them, they won the treble in the first season.

I've got problems scoring though, both Carraciolo (2 months) and Makinwa (4 weeks) were injured. Luckily I had Rossi (the one from Man U), he scores almost always. Currently my topscorer. Both Carraciolo and Makinwa are back now though, Carraciolo is recovering (stats dropped quite a lot during injury) and Makinwa just scored the winning goal in a boring away match vs. Fiorentina (0-1). If you annihalate Toni they're pretty easy to stop.

Ive got not much problems selecting my Macedonia squad though, there are only a total of 34 Macedonians in my game (H) So selecting 26 isnt too difficult.

I dont know whats wrong with the Czechs, they got outplayed vs Italy (3-2 L), Slovenia (3-2 L) and Poland (1-2 L) They were better vs. me (I won 3-2) And they had only a narrow victory vs. Armenia (3-2) Their problem is obviously the defense. For some reason Cech isnt even in the national selection. Cerny is their first choice, Lastuvka 2nd and Blazek 3rd.

PSVFOREVER
23-11-2005, 07:27:PM
god damn, I got an error when I clicked on the cup match Milan-Parma. Now I've lost the victory vs. Kazachstan, 2 league victories (vs. Fiorentina and Brescia) and an important victory in the UEFA cup vs. Cadiz. Damn

Now Im off watching Schalke-PSV

Zlatan
23-11-2005, 08:19:PM
Haha PSV is playing crap.

Anyway you still got the Match Report with the highlights ey.

Socrates
25-11-2005, 12:07:AM
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/4454/wowpazziniamazing0xp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last season he scored 60 goals and now in 3 matches he has 11 goals :jambo: :lui: Best striker ever, if you need goals than get this guy now. :jap:

TOON ARMY
25-11-2005, 09:32:AM
I splashed out for Pazzini and he's formed a great partnership with Micky Owen.

Quality player (Y)

PSVFOREVER
25-11-2005, 02:18:PM
please, move to a more challenging club (H)

barthez4
25-11-2005, 11:51:PM
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/4454/wowpazziniamazing0xp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last season he scored 60 goals and now in 3 matches he has 11 goals :jambo: :lui: Best striker ever, if you need goals than get this guy now. :jap:
I guess he's alright... :)

dirion
26-11-2005, 09:55:AM
I just wanted to show you guys this one, a nice victory for me! :D

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4637/bayernleverkusen1fe.th.png (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bayernleverkusen1fe.png)

Filipower
26-11-2005, 12:35:PM
nice(H)

PSVFOREVER
26-11-2005, 09:04:PM
Woo! won the UEFA cup in my 2nd season. I started off well, injuring Di Vaio, and with Villa and Mista already injured, they had to bring on Cervero, who quite simply sucks (was subbed again in the 32nd minute...) I also scored in the 6th minute, but it was disallowed, I kept dominating and with a break out I scored 1-0: Carraciolo, who was quite good after his long injuries, but never really retained the form of the 1st season.

On the other hand, Im having a terrible Serie A season. 1 match to go. I have already drawn 10 and lost 7. Mainly because the terribly high rate of injuries. Im 4th though. But can still end 6th. Inter are already champions. Last match vs. Messina, while my opponents for the 4th place go to Siena (Udinese) or have a home match vs. Lazio (Fiorentina)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126339&stc=1

nor-rbk
26-11-2005, 09:39:PM
I just wanted to show you guys this one, a nice victory for me! :D

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4637/bayernleverkusen1fe.th.png (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bayernleverkusen1fe.png)
Hey, you aren't playing on my game are you? :ewan:

Socrates
27-11-2005, 12:44:AM
please, move to a more challenging club (H)

Hell no (H) im in 2012 anyways :lui: This pic is a bit old but i beat my old winning record and 9 players got 10's.... my keeper didnt even have to make a single save otherwise he could have got a 10 too.

http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/2015/ownage0lf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Gotta love these Club World Championship matches.

Zlatan
27-11-2005, 09:33:AM
Haha Pazzini 8 goals. As Cody said it seems like you're done there. :D

Oh and BTW I always try to rest a few players in that World Club Championship. Even then I manage to win it anyway. :)

kickin_kyle
27-11-2005, 04:52:PM
Talk about a thriller...

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6657/closegame3ai.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=closegame3ai.jpg)

5 mins of stoppage time. Hearts scored two to eqalize and right before the final whistle my DM scores the winner.

kickin_kyle
27-11-2005, 07:24:PM
Keep an eye out for this guy, Ross McCormack. I'll monitor his progress over the next few seasons, he could be a candidate for the Offensive Players forum.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5854/mccormackonfire8pr.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mccormackonfire8pr.jpg)

Filipower
27-11-2005, 08:16:PM
Woo! won the UEFA cup in my 2nd season....

awsome, congratulations:hump: that's what i wanna do with mine :p the thing is i'm doing well in both competitios, but someday i'll crack, coz there is lots of injuries and i don't think can keep it up...but let's see...as long as i got grosso and ciolo:rockman: (H)

dirion
27-11-2005, 08:41:PM
Hey, you aren't playing on my game are you? :ewan:

Noooooooooo :$ :D or, maybe! :p

You have not played on that for a long time, so I figured i could play a bit on your Munchen save, your still nr1 in the league! :D and are meeting Fenerbahce in CL 1st knockout stage! (H)

Rustydusty10
28-11-2005, 01:07:AM
I'm Man Utd, 1st after 25 games, 17W 4D 4L - 55pts. Chelsea a close 2nd on 53 pts. Sold Smith and Saha and bought Postiga, waitin to see if he performs.

Filipower
28-11-2005, 05:08:PM
here's my Palermo team on my second season, been doin quite well on the serie a (3rd:p) and in the uefa cup...(some of the players are injured, but i put the standard lineup from when i have everyone available)

http://83.149.116.23/files666/472237261.jpg

PSVFOREVER
28-11-2005, 07:46:PM
Zaccardo? :( Bonnani? :(

Filipower
28-11-2005, 08:10:PM
i sold zaccardo on the first season, garcia's been doing a good job...about bonanni, he's there, but on the bench, i got better options :brow:

btw, barzagli:Bow:

PSVFOREVER
29-11-2005, 09:37:PM
How on earth can Barone be better than Bonanni :( Your game must have really different stats for those 2 players, look at them in my game:

On another note, I signed Zokora (9m) and Afellay (11m) for next season (Y) Extra depth to my midfield.

Guardalben out for 3 months (N) Just after I sold Frey. I now have 2 goalies: 18 yr old Ingrassia and some 16 yr olds

Im almost sure of CL football, have to play some stupid Cyprus team.
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126375&stc=1

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126376&stc=1

Filipower
30-11-2005, 04:01:PM
damn! barone is so much different in my game! i'm not playing right now, but i see if i remember and post a screenie...but both players are different..barone is much better and bonanni is worse..but hey, that's good, no? i mean, it brings uniqueness to the game..:p




edit: congrats on the CL spot...i'm aiming for one, gotta see if i can keep my 3rd place..currently on the second stage of the UEFA cup, against valencia:( lol, but i'll manage..

Áļéאָ
30-11-2005, 05:31:PM
Bonnani rox (H)

Zlatan
01-12-2005, 03:28:PM
I've never seen stats be that diffrent really. Normally except for a few stats they are the same.

Socrates
01-12-2005, 03:58:PM
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/2817/20131vn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

(H)

Filipower
01-12-2005, 08:47:PM
lol in fm05 i once had 'don't forget to change your underware' :hump: ....but it wasn't the last...come to think about it, i played a lot of fm05, damn..


yeah zlatan, i dunno what happened really, but it could be related with injuries and stuff...

PSVFOREVER
01-12-2005, 09:26:PM
You play too much :( Since mid october (say 50 days) you played almost 105 hours :(

I had a 10 days playing time game on CM03/04 (Y) Ive seen screenies btw, of 100 days :eek: I think they leave FM on when they go to work

Filipower is right btw, Barone WAS injured for 5 months in my game :( I forgot

Started my 3rd season awful btw, after 4 straight losses with Macedonia, resigned, lost European supercup vs. Inter (5-3 after ET, was leading 2-0 and they had a red card), only 1 win in 6 league matches (and 4 draws), 1 victory and 1 loss in in the CL and my club is in the negative, in finances (N)

Zlatan
01-12-2005, 09:32:PM
Meh, wouldn't explain everything though. I get pretty much injuries(a bit too much to me) they drop temporarily in stats but than when they recover a few weeks later they have their normal stats again... :S

Socrates
01-12-2005, 09:42:PM
You play too much :( Since mid october (say 50 days) you played almost 105 hours :(

I had a 10 days playing time game on CM03/04 (Y) Ive seen screenies btw, of 100 days :eek: I think they leave FM on when they go to work




I am currently very free ony have school 2 days a week and i cant work because of an indoor soccer injury ( tore my ACL, MCL and other crap...yea my right knee is ****ed up :kader: ).

:read:

I do play too much but i dont really want to stop now because its 2013. 100 days... yea thats a bit too much.

BTW i saw Zigic play IRL vs Roma. He is actually pretty good in real life, he had a very nice game scored 2 goals ( 1 of them a header (H) and the other a long range goal ) plus 1 assist. He is damn slow though :D

Socrates
03-12-2005, 05:51:AM
I started a new game with Vitesse. Im doing ok so far, not that far into the season, didnt buy anyone because i dont have any money. Here is my best win yet though

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5194/vitesse3zm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Zlatan
03-12-2005, 10:26:AM
Don't understand, why would you be proud on beating a mid-table club? :crazyboy: :fool:

Juventino
03-12-2005, 12:52:PM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7544/venividivici6eu.jpg

(H)

Lots of injuries too. Torres, Antonio Lopez, Petrov...

I came at Atletico in january 2009, I was the Juve manager before that, and won about everything in 3 and a half season... but it's Juve yeah. :p Here's my career so far:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2961/jeroentjebons6hl.jpg

I gave Atletico the Bons (:() and I'm now Schalke's manager. :) Already booked my first legendary win at my 2nd game in charge. :p

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6149/legendary4ie.jpg

64th minute: 1-3
71st minute: 4-3

(H)

That's it folks.

Axolote
03-12-2005, 04:42:PM
Very good choice buying Cavenaghi...How much did you pay him?

I want him back to River...

Juventino
03-12-2005, 04:57:PM
His contract at Spartak Moscow expired in 2009. :) It went pretty weird though... his contract ended the 21st of june or something, a weird date, and when I was able to offer him a contract I had to pay a compensation of around 13 million euros.

Zlatan
03-12-2005, 05:35:PM
Hmm that's strange indeed. Isn't it an official rule that you don't have to pay any price for a player that leaves on a bosman?

kickin_kyle
03-12-2005, 05:39:PM
No, I think you have to pay compensation for players under a certain age.

Zlatan
03-12-2005, 06:13:PM
Yeah for 16 year old players or younger, but Cavenaghi isn't a 16 year old and certainly not in 2009. :confused:

Filipower
03-12-2005, 08:00:PM
maybe you choosed the 'immediately' option instead of 'end of contract'?? i dunno, just throwin ideas..

Juventino
03-12-2005, 08:18:PM
Nope... I got him at the end of his contract.

PSVFOREVER
04-12-2005, 10:04:AM
It's some strange russian rule, I always get that if I want to buy players from those eastern countries on a bosman. You should pay attention though, cause at the contract offer you see Spartak will be compensated with 13m blablabla or something like that

Socrates
04-12-2005, 03:08:PM
Don't understand, why would you be proud on beating a mid-table club? :crazyboy: :fool:

:amika:

BTW i stopped that game, just about every good player that i had wanted to leave to a bigger team and they were unhappy at me not selling them.

Im going to start a new game soon, dont know who yet though. Maybe Werder Bremen will do nicely.

rpvankasteren
04-12-2005, 06:12:PM
Playing as Vitesse has sucked for years now. It's no fun to start there, only fun to pick up the job after 3 or 4 seasons. I reckon it's what put me off this game.

Tom
04-12-2005, 09:07:PM
you know, this is a real mixed bag. I've never played this game but EVERYONE is saying it's either 1. too hard or 2. too easy

there doesnt seem to be any middle ground anymore for a good game!

Daz
04-12-2005, 10:30:PM
you know, this is a real mixed bag. I've never played this game but EVERYONE is saying it's either 1. too hard or 2. too easy

there doesnt seem to be any middle ground anymore for a good game!

i stand in the middle ground :jambo:

Socrates
05-12-2005, 01:37:AM
Playing as Vitesse has sucked for years now. It's no fun to start there, only fun to pick up the job after 3 or 4 seasons. I reckon it's what put me off this game.

Well i was really bugged though, i mean i was doing great like 3rd spot and really close to 1st than everyone starts bitching about leaving to a big team :boohoo: bunch of bitchs, like they could make it somewhere else. :rofl:

Filipower
05-12-2005, 03:27:PM
i stand in middle ground too, it's not that easy, but at the same time, it's easier than the old CM's...so, it's neither too hard or too easy, it's fairly, let's say, realistic..

Zlatan
09-12-2005, 02:55:PM
Game between Barca and Real, both controled by the CPU.
WTF!? :gavin:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3440/barcelonapwned27ur.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=barcelonapwned27ur.jpg)

Seems like the fat guy got it on his nerves. How unrealistic :crazyboy:

dirion
09-12-2005, 03:02:PM
Game between Barca and Real, both controled by the CPU.
WTF!? :gavin:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3440/barcelonapwned27ur.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=barcelonapwned27ur.jpg)

Seems like the fat guy got it on his nerves. How unrealistic :crazyboy:

wow! :p kind of an unrealistic match that one! Ronaldo scoring 6 goals! :p never gonna happen in real life! :p

yim87
09-12-2005, 03:40:PM
you know, this is a real mixed bag. I've never played this game but EVERYONE is saying it's either 1. too hard or 2. too easy

there doesnt seem to be any middle ground anymore for a good game!
i actually find the teams that should be easier to beat are harder to beat now but those powerhouses are pish easy.

Socrates
09-12-2005, 08:02:PM
Seems like the fat guy got it on his nerves. How unrealistic :crazyboy:
8-2...if only this was in real life:(

Ronaldo fat... NAH "Nutritionist Patricia Teixeira has been a huge success since her arrival, but is also expected to leave Real this week. Her influence has seen Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Michel Salgado and Guti all lose weight this season - acknowledged by all the players in question." :jambo:

Fatty has lost weight and still scores (H)

PSVFOREVER
09-12-2005, 11:13:PM
3rd season completed:

Didnt manage to qualify for EURO 2008 with Macedonia, left after 8 matches, when I couldnt qualify anymore.

In the league, with Palermo it was average, only 67 goals: 20 victories, 14 draws, 4 defeats. I ended 3rd though. Juventus won the treble: League, UEFA cup, Italian cup, its strange:

1st season: Milan champions, CL winners, Italian cup winners
2nd season: Inter champions, CL winners, lost in cup final
3rd season: Juve champions, UEFA cup winners, Italian cup winners

But my triumph: The CL! After winning the UEFA cup, now the CL. I was very average: In the qualifying round I beat Anorthosi (Cyprus) 3-0 and 2-0. In the group I first lost vs. CSKA Moskou, then won from Lille, then I got only 1 point vs. Arsenal and a point vs. CSKA Moskou. In the final match I played vs Lille, Moskou visiting Arsenal. I had to win, they had to lose: I won 4-1, they lost 3-0. After that, I got some great, memorable matches. Beating Inter in the final:

(Makinwa always misses his penalties btw, dont pay attention to it :()
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126464&stc=1

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126465&stc=1

Rustydusty10
10-12-2005, 12:13:PM
Can u post a pic of Makinwa?

Filipower
10-12-2005, 04:56:PM
congrats man!:rockman:

makinwa:Bow:...btw,i'm f*cked up,my computer's main drive is tottaly messed up, i sent it to the store to fix it, but i might lose all of my files, including FM, which is the worse:(

Zlatan
10-12-2005, 05:52:PM
congrats man!:rockman:

makinwa:Bow:...btw,i'm f*cked up,my computer's main drive is tottaly messed up, i sent it to the store to fix it, but i might lose all of my files, including FM, which is the worse:(

I know how it feels, I had it today aswell... :(

PSVFOREVER
10-12-2005, 06:11:PM
New signings for season 4: yay
Christian Ledesma (Lecce) 10m
Awesome player, got very good technical and mental stats, can form a defensive block with the physical beast Zokora.

Sergio Aguero (Independiente) free
Very talented attacking midfielder, for the future.

Gianpaulo Pazzini (Fiorentina) free
(H) We know the guy. Pure class, will form my bench together with Giussepe Rossi (Behind Makinwa and Carraciolo) (H)

Christian Caprioli (Chievo) loan
20 year old talented striker, plays regulary in the Italy -21

Mattio Savoia (Chievo) Loan
also 20, good technical defender, good mental stats, hope to sign him at the end of the season on a free.

Can u post a pic of Makinwa?

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126467&stc=1

Zlatan
10-12-2005, 07:08:PM
Pazzini free :o , good signing there!

Has anyone seen this new 'feature'. I think it's actually quite funny. :D
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3443/zeeduardo6da.th.jpg (http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zeeduardo6da.jpg)

BTW I've started a game with Stuttgart as my Atletico Madrid game crashed down this morning as you might know. Here's my first match. Streller is the perfect target man (Y) :
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2926/tubize1pa.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tubize1pa.jpg)

Dreath
10-12-2005, 07:26:PM
Pazzini free :o , good signing there!

Has anyone seen this new 'feature'. I think it's actually quite funny. :D
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3443/zeeduardo6da.th.jpg (http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zeeduardo6da.jpg)


Yeah Alexandre Song is the next Vieira.

Socrates
10-12-2005, 07:36:PM
The next Ronaldo ahaha, i havnt seen that yet. In my game he is 26 and has pretty good stats but players for HSV.

BTW is it just me or is the value for players messed up in this game, check out one of my players he has crazy stats but only valued at 6 million??

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4428/wowaz3jx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

PSVFOREVER
10-12-2005, 07:38:PM
And here the ''new Edwin van der Sar'': Wayne Rooney! Yay

socrates: the determination ruines him :( In my game he's an absolute crap left winger, playing for some team named Venafro

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126469&stc=1

Socrates
10-12-2005, 08:57:PM
socrates: the determination ruines him :( In my game he's an absolute crap left winger, playing for some team named Venafro


I just found him this year so i was like holy **** nice stats but he is my backup, and shame on you for putting Pazzini on the bench :kader:

Dreath
11-12-2005, 03:01:AM
The next Ronaldo ahaha, i havnt seen that yet. In my game he is 26 and has pretty good stats but players for HSV.

BTW is it just me or is the value for players messed up in this game, check out one of my players he has crazy stats but only valued at 6 million??

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4428/wowaz3jx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Value is based on form not stats and the sixe of the club they're playing for.

xiaoarc
11-12-2005, 12:27:PM
And here the ''new Edwin van der Sar'': Wayne Rooney! Yay

socrates: the determination ruines him :( In my game he's an absolute crap left winger, playing for some team named Venafro

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126469&stc=1


You train him in GK position?

PSVFOREVER
11-12-2005, 12:52:PM
No, thats from the start. Im not the ManU manager, how can I train him there?

Hopeunited
12-12-2005, 12:01:AM
almost done my first season with Ajax... just clinched the league title with a 13 pt lead over PSV with 4 games to go. And now made it to the UEFA Cup final thanks to this:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9632/uefasemi9ny.png

Got kocked out of the CL in group stage haha, we got stuck in a group with Villareal, Arsenal, and Lokomotiv Moskva in which Villareal won.

xiaoarc
12-12-2005, 02:27:AM
No, thats from the start. Im not the ManU manager, how can I train him there?

My bad. That's weird for Rooney to be in an GK position. Shall check this in my game. :)

Zlatan
12-12-2005, 04:47:PM
It's a bug I think, he's a 'keeper' aswell in my game :S

Áļéאָ
12-12-2005, 05:05:PM
I believe someone should define the meaning of the word "bug" on computerrs. Tahts not a bug thats a database error, if you can call this an error. Maybe it was made on purpose

Socrates
12-12-2005, 06:48:PM
Value is based on form not stats and the sixe of the club they're playing for.

Well i guess i missed this one but here is my late response.

I have players that play consistantly well for me but are still very undervalued. This guy was just one example but i dont play him that often so that could be the reason but my fullbacks, centerbacks are the best out there but still dont get rated highly.

Daz
12-12-2005, 08:10:PM
My bad. That's weird for Rooney to be in an GK position. Shall check this in my game. :)
It was that one training session we saw when he played in goal :p

rpvankasteren
12-12-2005, 08:13:PM
It's not that weird for strikers to be goalkeepers, though. You see it all the time. Van der Sar, Westerveld, Shaaban, all GKs that are also quite capable strikers. In real life, that is, SI seem to disregard it at the moment. Well, that's the other way around, but you catch my drift.

<edit> and of course Campos, how can I forget him (H) </edit>

Zlatan
12-12-2005, 08:19:PM
And not to forget; David James ofcourse (H)

Hopeunited
12-12-2005, 08:20:PM
Well i guess i missed this one but here is my late response.

I have players that play consistantly well for me but are still very undervalued. This guy was just one example but i dont play him that often so that could be the reason but my fullbacks, centerbacks are the best out there but still dont get rated highly.
I think value is based on a mix of the player's reputation, the club's reputation, the player's salary, and his form.

I'm using Ajax but since it is not considered a powerhouse anymore in Europe, and my players all have only national reputation, the player values are relatively low as well. Sneijder is my highest valued player and he is only valued at 5 mil pounds. On the other hand, pick some reserve regular at a big club like ManUtd, Kieran Richardson for example, and he's got a value of 2.5 mil already. It's mainly reputation of the club and player.

PSVFOREVER
12-12-2005, 08:33:PM
dont forget league reputation, dutch based players will NEVER get a high value, because it's the dutch league.

shokz
12-12-2005, 09:18:PM
Starting my first game of FM2006. I'm managing FC United of Manchester in Conference North, using the FCUMUpdateV3 (http://gcwebservices.co.uk/fcuforum/viewtopic.php?t=12277) & FCUM Creased Kits (http://community.sigames.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/420106/m/4702069871/r/8882089971#8882089971).
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/6804/fcum2pe.png

Hopeunited
13-12-2005, 12:05:AM
Good luck shokz. Rub it in those Glazers' faces.

Socrates
13-12-2005, 12:30:AM
I think value is based on a mix of the player's reputation, the club's reputation, the player's salary, and his form.

I'm using Ajax but since it is not considered a powerhouse anymore in Europe, and my players all have only national reputation, the player values are relatively low as well. Sneijder is my highest valued player and he is only valued at 5 mil pounds. On the other hand, pick some reserve regular at a big club like ManUtd, Kieran Richardson for example, and he's got a value of 2.5 mil already. It's mainly reputation of the club and player.

Well the player should have a high reputation becuase he plays for me and i am the number 1 club in the world according to the rankings. He gets a lot of money and is usually on form.

dont forget league reputation, dutch based players will NEVER get a high value, because it's the dutch league

I am playing in the Italian league so there is no reason why they shouldnt have a huge value. I just think it is becuase i am in the future and most of the players dont get high values, like Rooney and co are still in the game and they are still vauled very highely but the new players dont get too high of a value.

shokz looks like that should be fun. I cant play in England because of only being able to use 5 subs, i just hate it. I am also thinking of starting a new game ( i know i have been saying that for a while now :p ) Maybe in the lower leagues.

Hopeunited
13-12-2005, 03:09:AM
Oh man... Brazil, the land of stars. I just love digging young talents from teams like Gremio haha. Signed 2 more Brazilian youngsters in offseason (summer of 2006):

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8854/pedrojunior2fu.png
Signed for 4.1 mil.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4637/coelho3ah.png
Signed for 2.7 mil


and here's Lucas, I signed him for 2.1 mil at the beginning of the game last summer and he was outstanding in his first season, scored 9 goals:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9295/lucas7lb.png

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Zlatan
13-12-2005, 01:20:PM
Composure is too bad for that striker to be a really good one.
But as for the rest, quite good signings!
:D

PSVFOREVER
13-12-2005, 01:35:PM
I am playing in the Italian league so there is no reason why they shouldnt have a huge value. I just think it is becuase i am in the future and most of the players dont get high values, like Rooney and co are still in the game and they are still vauled very highely but the new players dont get too high of a value.




I was referring to hope why Ajax didnt get high valued players. As for regens not getting high values, not true, in fm 05 the highest value player in 2010 was a regen (an argentinian striker playing for Inter to be exact)

PSVFOREVER
13-12-2005, 02:15:PM
Will this help me from keeping my job longer? As Im kinda sucking at the moment, 7th in the league, 3th in CL group... (H)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126489&stc=1

Socrates
13-12-2005, 03:10:PM
I was referring to hope why Ajax didnt get high valued players. As for regens not getting high values, not true, in fm 05 the highest value player in 2010 was a regen (an argentinian striker playing for Inter to be exact)

Yea maybe.

I just got hired as the new coach of Brazil :hump: This game has crazy ass stats for Brazilians, they have the best team in the world. So now its Fiorentina and Brazil, should be fun.

Zlatan
13-12-2005, 03:48:PM
Brazil has the best team in the world IRL aswell.
But I suppose you are a couple of years further now.

Johnny_Big
13-12-2005, 07:21:PM
Yeah, Brazil is just amazing...you have 23 players for the NT. You could do more 2 or 3 teams with the rest of the players...and you get another great NT.

At least in my FM it's like that...

Hopeunited
13-12-2005, 08:43:PM
Composure is too bad for that striker to be a really good one.
But as for the rest, quite good signings!
:D
haha yea oh well he's got good off the ball stat so maybe he can make those amazing runs like Darren Bent. :p

PS: haha Zlatan your Litmanen sig just reminded me. In my Ajax game, evertime when there's a big game coming up for me (i.e. facing PSV, or UEFA Cup final), Jari Litmanen (playin for San Jose Earthquakes in MLS) starts talking and says that I should be worried about one particular player on the opposing team. It's weird lol... gets quite annoying. Anyone else has this goin on? Where a popular ex-player comments on your team's next match?

Zlatan
13-12-2005, 08:56:PM
Cool (H)

I have it with Klinsmann too, in my Stuttgart game. :D

Socrates
13-12-2005, 09:04:PM
I also have that in my Fiorentina game with Rui Costa, although it gets very anoyying after a while.

PSVFOREVER
15-12-2005, 06:59:PM
god, things are going the wrong way in my Palermo game, 4th in the league, but the board wants me to become champions, so my job is very insecure, they also want high profile players, so what do they do, sign Iraola for 28m, while I have Zaccardo for that position, plus a talented player from the youth... I DID make them a European power by winning the UEFA cup and the CL in a row, but they dont care.

Might go to PSV, where Hiddink's job is insecure.

shokz
16-12-2005, 06:17:PM
"And Fergie said 'Go and watch Chelsea', you're having a laugh, we'll be watching FC".
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7695/image12xa.png
I sold most of the players off at £10-£20k each and built my own, its a very young side aswell.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/391/image27sc.png

Tom
16-12-2005, 06:20:PM
Ben's guide on how to rape the conference, play as FC United

PSVFOREVER
16-12-2005, 07:19:PM
Nice talent coming through my youth ranks:

Just got his debut in the league vs Messina, I won 3-2, he got 2 assists (Y) Only 17, and this good stats (Y)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126516&stc=1

And another big talent:

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126517&stc=1

Ive got 5 or 6 other talented wingers, 16 years old, with 17+ for pace and accell (Y)

PSVFOREVER
16-12-2005, 08:16:PM
Well, I enjoyed those talents for a long time...

bye bye Palermo :ewan: Stupid board, had a kinda bad season, they were unhappy, i had 7 losses in 8 matches, all to mediocre teams, they got even unhappier, I critisized 10 players at the same day, they got even more unhappy, I declared interest in PSV and Milan job, and they were, again, unhappier. Yay

So now Im at Milan, at least I can say I left as CL holders (H)

Damn, they've sold Vogel already :(

Schevchenko as a back-up (H)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126519&stc=1

Zlatan
16-12-2005, 10:10:PM
Amazes me that Ancelotti hold it out all the way to 2009. In my games he always gets sacked after 1 or 2 seasons.

Filipower
16-12-2005, 11:27:PM
damn, just thinkin that i lost all the files in my computer, including my FM game....things were going so good...
anyway PSVFOREVER,what's your current squad?

PSVFOREVER
17-12-2005, 12:05:AM
Finished the season, ended 3rd (when I got there, the gap with Inter and Juve was too big, managed to close it to 4 pts) Won the UEFA cup, beating Man U 3-2, after being behind 2-0 at ht. My squad is decent, but it lacks depth.

My line-up was:

GK Dida

DR Paulo Ferreira (from Chelsea, 14.5m €)
DL Felipe Soares (from Internacional, awesome player, recommend him to everyone, Milan only paid 4m for him)
DC Nesta
DC Felipe (from Udinese, milan paid 18m)

DMC Ambrosini
MRC Gatusso
MLC Pirlo
AMC Kaka

FC Gilardino
FC Bojinov (Fiorentina, 30m)

On the bench, I didnt have much big names, except Seedorf, Kaladze, Jankulovski, Schevchenko and Arouna Kone

Ive made some signings for next season:
Mascherano 15m Udinese
Michael Owen free Newcastle
Pazzini 14m Palermo (offered him a new contract with a low min release claues just before I left (H))

My next season's attack:
Gilardino (17 goals and 22 assists in 48 matches for Milan)
Bojinov (29 goals and 11 assists in 55 matches for Milan)
Schevchenko (17 goals and 4 assists in 24 matches for Milan)
Kone ( 5 goals and 3 assists in a total of 18 matches for both Man U and Milan)
Owen (19 goals and 0 assists in 44 matches for Newcastle)
Pazzini (24 goals and 7 assists in 46 matches for Palermo)

How on earth am I going to keep them happy (H) Tried to sign Toni too, but he extended his contract at Fiorentina

Filipower
17-12-2005, 12:23:AM
lol, and you tried to sign toni...you're just insane, they gonna be all messed up,except if you kick freakin ass
anyways, awsome team..

Hopeunited
17-12-2005, 01:33:AM
haha lookin good Cody.

Hey check out this guy. I bought him this summer for a mere 1 mil pounds, he's fckn solid at the back. The new Christian Chivu:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4964/tamas9ux.png

Hopeunited
17-12-2005, 02:16:AM
13 yellow cards and 2 red cards in a game... how fcked up is this ref?

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9452/cardgalore9ve.png

PS: Gabriel Tamas scored 2 goals in this game as a CB!!! Both were low drives from the edge of the box!!! What a talent! :hump:

Rustydusty10
17-12-2005, 02:42:AM
Can anyone tell me how to keep my defence not so leaky? I have a good team i believe

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/rustydusty10/transfers in.jpg
http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/rustydusty10/squad 2k6.jpg

and i should be doing better than this...

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/rustydusty10/table oct 2k6.jpg

PSVFOREVER
17-12-2005, 09:26:AM
your attack seems more a problem to me, 9 goals in 10 matches isnt that bad, I think 16 goals in 10 matches is worse

Bonanni (H)

Is Rooney any good? Might sign him for my Milan team, I feel I dont have enough back-up strikers for when Im going to play 4-1-5

Rustydusty10
17-12-2005, 05:17:PM
your attack seems more a problem to me, 9 goals in 10 matches isnt that bad, I think 16 goals in 10 matches is worse

Bonanni (H)

Is Rooney any good? Might sign him for my Milan team, I feel I dont have enough back-up strikers for when Im going to play 4-1-5
Well i drew 3-3 at home to Celtic in CL, i was really angry so i resigned and now i'm at Tottenham.

Zlatan
17-12-2005, 06:25:PM
Good choice. It sucks to manage Man United, as I said before it's alot harder to manage a big gun than in FM 2005.

Juventino
17-12-2005, 06:59:PM
Talk about a tense last matchday eh... :| top 3 on same points! What a win. :p

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4669/laatstespeeldagbundes3bq.jpg

nor-rbk
17-12-2005, 07:38:PM
Finally managed to qualify for the 1/8-finals in Champions League after failing in the 3 first years. Really pleased with the performance this year, 16 points and not even a goal conceded. :p

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/7332/ajaxcl6ql.jpg

Juventino
17-12-2005, 07:48:PM
I decided to leave Schalke and head off to Inter, as they were the only available club.

But then this happened... :|

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/5181/wtfz0r2zz.jpg

:nape:

I only spend a year at Schalke, before that I was Atletico's manager as you can see in 2010.

Zlatan
17-12-2005, 07:51:PM
Talk about a tense last matchday eh... :| top 3 on same points! What a win. :p

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4669/laatstespeeldagbundes3bq.jpg
(H)

It has its simularities with the Last Minute title Arsenal got in 1989.

PSVFOREVER
17-12-2005, 09:18:PM
Finally managed to qualify for the 1/8-finals in Champions League after failing in the 3 first years. Really pleased with the performance this year, 16 points and not even a goal conceded. :p



But lost to PSV (H) And only won 6-0 to Weert. hahahahaha :(

nor-rbk
17-12-2005, 09:21:PM
But lost to PSV (H) And only won 6-0 to Weert. hahahahaha :(
Yes, with my reserves;)

Okay, I didn't use my reserves against PSV. But they are far down on the table, so I just let them win.:$

Filipower
18-12-2005, 03:57:PM
i'm trying to get some courage and start off a whole new game, after my computer got messed up...i'm thinking about starting a game with a very good team, but not the super barça-chelsea-juve style, i was thinkin about deportivo, or newcastle, that kind of teams, any advise??(having in mind i'll start with serie a, spanish primera and epl)

Zlatan
18-12-2005, 04:08:PM
Valencia, Liverpool, Udinese...

PSVFOREVER
18-12-2005, 07:45:PM
Sampdoria, Fiorentina, Atletico Madrid, Betis, Villareal. Some I can think off immediatly

Rustydusty10
18-12-2005, 08:05:PM
My 2nd game in charge of Spurs since i resigned from Man Utd...
http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/rustydusty10/1-0 over man u.jpg

and here's the third...
http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/rustydusty10/1-6+win.jpg

Oz_Leeds_Fan
19-12-2005, 04:37:PM
well thats depressing... :p hehe

PSVFOREVER
19-12-2005, 06:14:PM
why on earth would you let a dutch player take a penalty kick? Thats idiotic. Especially a dutchman from the ''1998, 2000'' generation

Zlatan
19-12-2005, 06:20:PM
Yeah, after Edje missed in 96' final he swored he'd never take a PK again. :)

Rustydusty10
19-12-2005, 07:11:PM
why on earth would you let a dutch player take a penalty kick? Thats idiotic. Especially a dutchman from the ''1998, 2000'' generation
Not my fault, i didnt pick it, i tried to change it but it was too late. can u do it in quick tactics??

PSVFOREVER
19-12-2005, 07:15:PM
its your fault you didnt preset it :p

Zlatan
19-12-2005, 07:18:PM
Ah, does it matter? He won! :D

Rustydusty10
19-12-2005, 07:19:PM
its your fault you didnt preset it :p
I guess, i cant believed they have Robbie Keane and Michael Carrick loaned out!! no wonder they were 20th when i came. LOL. I need a DC and a AML, i have 10m to spend in Jan. any suggestions?

Hopeunited
19-12-2005, 09:39:PM
I guess, i cant believed they have Robbie Keane and Michael Carrick loaned out!! no wonder they were 20th when i came. LOL. I need a DC and a AML, i have 10m to spend in Jan. any suggestions?
for DC, get Gabriel Tamas, I posted a screenie of him on Page 142. He's a younger copy of Chivu and only cost me 1 mil pounds.

for AML, a few suggestions are Nicolae Mitea, Ibrahim Afellay, Andrea Gasberoni.

shokz
20-12-2005, 06:24:PM
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/1508/image23hm.png
FCUM - 1st in Conference National
Crystal Palace - 6th in Premiership

:jap:

Zlatan
20-12-2005, 09:04:PM
:S :p (H)

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5291/huhhbc17uk.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=huhhbc17uk.jpg)

Hopeunited
20-12-2005, 11:33:PM
Here's some Champions League drama for ya:

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/174/clrangers8ou.png

Lost the first leg away at Ibrox 0-1. Come home and 29 seconds into the game Rangers score, 0-2 aggregate for me. The rest of the 1st half we played like crap also, so I thought it was over. But man oh man look what happened in the 2nd!!!

lol and the last goal Babel scored was a 65 yard lob into the empty net after a corner was cleared as Rangers keeper Klos came up for the corner. :rockman:

Dreath
21-12-2005, 05:49:PM
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/7448/573qc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

57 years old! (H)

Rustydusty10
21-12-2005, 06:03:PM
:rockman: :lui:

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/rustydusty10/6-2 over Arsenal.jpg

rpvankasteren
21-12-2005, 07:53:PM
57 years old! (H)
The random age seems to be a little messed up :sun:

Filipower
21-12-2005, 09:50:PM
so i finally started my new career this afternoon, after losing my old one, along with all the files from my old drive..
anyway, i started with Newcastle and i've already won the INTERTOTO cup, got a couple of players(Grosso:brow: ) and sold two or three..i won the first two games in the EPL, but lost to Man City...let's see if i can bring some silverware to the toonarmy:rockman:

squad
http://83.149.116.25/files666/857179569.jpg
transfers in
http://83.149.116.22/files666/811468586.jpg
transfers out
http://83.149.116.22/files666/619063568.jpg
intertoto final
http://83.149.116.21/files666/382579278.jpg

wat do ya think?

PSVFOREVER
21-12-2005, 09:57:PM
that Owen rocks. Leading goalscorer of my AC Milan squad (ahead of names like Gilardino, Pazzini, Bojinov and Kaka), leading goalscorer of the Serie A, leading assister in the Serie A and from my team.

Socrates
21-12-2005, 10:03:PM
that Owen rocks. Leading goalscorer of my AC Milan squad (ahead of names like Gilardino, Pazzini, Bojinov and Kaka), leading goalscorer of the Serie A, leading assister in the Serie A and from my team.

Pffft thats only because you dont know how to use Pazzini :rolleyes: :p :mexican: :crazyboy:

Newcastle is one of the teams i cant win anything with for some reason. They are like a cursed team for me.

PSVFOREVER
21-12-2005, 10:33:PM
No, that's because I only let Pazzini play as a subsitute or in the unimportant games (H)

Filipower
21-12-2005, 11:01:PM
lol, ironicly enough, i got palermo on my uefa cup group :p

anyways, i usually play:

---------------given----------------
carr----taylor----boumsong----babayaro
solano----alex------zokora-------grosso
---------owen-------luque(sometimes shearer)

with parker, mokoena, emre, o'brien and dyer as subs (H)

i guess my only flaw is the defence, but i don't seem to be conceding a lot of goals, mainly because i play in a very attacking style, which does not give the opponent the opportunity to attack:hump: i'm currently 1st in the epl

shokz
21-12-2005, 11:59:PM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2692/image60ze.jpg

:ewan:

dirion
22-12-2005, 12:00:AM
Check this out, I'm managing Albacete! :D Playing in Spanish 2. Division. :p

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8061/albacetejuve5vg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7462/albacetejuve29pt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Filipower
22-12-2005, 04:16:PM
:Bow: albacete lol


i have 4 injured players: grosso, parker, emre and owen, plus a suspended one(taylor)i'm gonna get my ass kicked by tottenham...:(

dirion
22-12-2005, 04:28:PM
:Bow: albacete lol

:p I actually couldn't believe what I saw when I was playing this match. The worst thing is that they didn't play with their 3rd or 2nd team. Players like Abbiati, Del Piero, Nedved, Camoranesi were playing, yet i won 4-0.

I'm now unbeaten in the league. 1st!:D hoping for a quick return to Primera Division!:D

Dreath
22-12-2005, 05:53:PM
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6604/barca6eq.jpg

:D

Filipower
22-12-2005, 07:06:PM
makukula:hump:

PSVFOREVER
22-12-2005, 11:02:PM
first season finished, and I only had to fear Juve. Close league table (after 36 matches it was only 2 points difference)

Coppa Italia, vs. Juve :p

And the CL vs. (yay) Juve...

What a CL match. After the 2-0 I switched to a 3-3-4 tactic, and it worked really well. The 2-4 was a long range shot from own half after Buffon went up front with a corner.

Next season I already signed some Czech regen. 21, could be the next Gatusso.

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126570&stc=1

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126571&stc=1

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126572&stc=1

Rustydusty10
23-12-2005, 04:49:AM
Great CL come back!

shokz
23-12-2005, 05:51:AM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/526/image10fj.jpg

(H)

dirion
23-12-2005, 08:58:AM
holy crappeticrap! :p Nathan Joynes, 6 goals:p you couldn't take a picture of his stats could you? :p :D

Filipower
23-12-2005, 02:28:PM
congrats PSVFOREVER, great comeback...how good is gilardino? my owen got injured for like 4 months and i need a huge replacement..

Zlatan
23-12-2005, 03:34:PM
Woohoo, Stuttgart ist die Deutsche meister. Will post a screenie of my glorious season later on. I can get the double aswell, if I win from Bayern in the cup final that is. :rockman:

Filipower
23-12-2005, 06:12:PM
so here we go...january has come, and with me top of the table(nearly:p), i was preparing to buy a couple of players....a central defender, which i did..
http://83.149.116.21/files666/649566491.jpg
and an attacking player, which i did to...
http://83.149.116.22/files666/342646947.jpg
but then, out of nowhere, my Boss decides to offer €14M for a player..
http://83.149.116.21/files666/107702202.jpg
and i found out that it was exactly what i wanted(besides the other two)..a right full back...and what a player this is!! so.. thanks mister chairman (H) :Bow:
http://83.149.116.22/files666/81624173.jpg

oh, i wanted a goalkeeper( i was about to buy Diego, from paranaaense), but dani alves came first and i did'nt have any extra money :p

shokz
23-12-2005, 06:29:PM
holy crappeticrap! :p Nathan Joynes, 6 goals:p you couldn't take a picture of his stats could you? :p :D
141 goals in 158 appearances since he joined me, cost £4k. Had no problem signing him when my team was in Conference North.
http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/8843/image18lf.jpg

Filipower
23-12-2005, 06:34:PM
damn:Bow:

shokz
23-12-2005, 10:58:PM
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7968/image16ls.jpg

My CV looks pretty damn good. (H)

Filipower
24-12-2005, 05:27:PM
how many years have you got to plays to reach the epl? coz you're on fire man :rockman:

barthez4
24-12-2005, 11:37:PM
141 goals in 158 appearances since he joined me, cost £4k. Had no problem signing him when my team was in Conference North.
http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/8843/image18lf.jpg
Damn... he's a 5 in Goalkeeping!

shokz
25-12-2005, 08:18:PM
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2907/image18va.jpg

:brow:

Hopeunited
25-12-2005, 10:07:PM
lol WTF. 2011 and Paul Scholes is still playing? :o

PSVFOREVER
25-12-2005, 11:01:PM
Felt like spending some money :( Never thought I would ever pay this much for a player. I think it's the highest fee in my game (dont feel like checking through all those months)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=126591&stc=1

Hopeunited
26-12-2005, 02:30:AM
and you only signed him to a TWO year contract?!!! :o

Hopeunited
26-12-2005, 04:27:AM
wow, this is truly magical stuff. Last matchday of Eredivisie, Ajax 72 pts, Feyenoord 70 pts. Whoever wins this match takes the title. Shinji Ono scores on a FK 2 minutes in, then moments later Nigel de Jong was sent off for holding Kuyt on a breakaway. The game looked set to be a nightmare, but DAMN! Anything can happen in football!!!

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8447/titlegame8lk.png

shokz
26-12-2005, 04:45:AM
Congrats. I won the LDV Vans Trophy for a third consecutive year running and went onto win the League One Championship on goal difference. Scholes bowed out on a high although I did try to persuade the Ginger Prince to play on for another year.

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2606/ldv4vj.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/15/leagueone2vq.jpg

Screenshots
FC United 2005/06 (http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/6804/fcum2pe.png)
FC United 2006/07 (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/391/image27sc.png)
FC United 2009/10 (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9380/image14oc.jpg)
FC United 2010/11 (http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9421/fcunited2010119uj.jpg)
Conference North Winners 2006/07 (http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7695/image12xa.png)
LDV Vans Trophy Winners 2008/09 (http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2692/image60ze.jpg)
Conference National Winners 2008/09 (http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2692/image60ze.jpg)
FA Trophy Winners 2008/09 (http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2692/image60ze.jpg)
LDV Vans Trophy Winners 2009/10 (http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2679/image21si.jpg)
Coca-Cola League Two Winners 2009/10 (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7968/image16ls.jpg)
LDV Vans Trophy Winners 2010/11 (http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2606/ldv4vj.jpg)
Coca-Cola League One Winners 2010/11 (http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/15/leagueone2vq.jpg)
Carling Cup Winners 2011/12 (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4109/image12te.jpg)

Honours
Coca-Cola League One: 2011
Coca-Cola League Two: 2010
Nationwide Conference: 2009
Nationwide North: 2007
Carling Cup: 2012
LDV Vans Trophy: 2009, 2010, 2011
FA Trophy: 2009

Filipower
26-12-2005, 03:29:PM
:Bow:

Rustydusty10
26-12-2005, 03:40:PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/15/leagueone2vq.jpg

Fulham and Blackburn have dropped pretty far! LOL

Filipower
26-12-2005, 03:59:PM
lol blackburn didn't make it...i love FM 'futurism' (H)

Hopeunited
26-12-2005, 05:37:PM
lol notice how Blackburn has monstrous offense. 97 GF, highest in the league, yet still didn't make it haha.

Filipower
26-12-2005, 07:41:PM
:rofl:

Áļéאָ
26-12-2005, 10:41:PM
http://img420.imageshack.us/img420/718/untitled27qx.gif

yay, im posting a pic :P couldnt resit making it look like a flag, lol
anyways, prety darn close competiton so far isnt it? (H)

rpvankasteren
27-12-2005, 08:49:AM
I don't read crooked :nape: Gives me headaches on this early morning. :jap:

shokz
27-12-2005, 09:59:AM
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7576/image21mp.jpg
:eek:(H)

dirion
27-12-2005, 10:50:AM
That is two nice victories. One question, did Liverpool play with their 1st team squad? :p

And also: "full time from New Anfield" :p

Nice done anyway! :D

Filipower
27-12-2005, 12:04:PM
well done, mate :rockman: hey, can you give me the names of your best players? i'm going to 'attack' FC United in the next transfer window :hump: :hump:

shokz
27-12-2005, 12:16:PM
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7163/image13al.jpg
Paolo Corradino (GK)
Raffaele Schiavi (DC)
Paul McShane (DC)
Labinot Harbuzi (AM RLC)
Oscar Valero (AM R)
Nathan Joynes (ST)
Cabral Adelsson (ST)

PSVFOREVER
27-12-2005, 12:24:PM
You make me wanna play in the lower league. I think I'll start a new game in the conference.

shokz
27-12-2005, 02:10:PM
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8850/championship3ax.jpg
:jap:

Hopeunited
27-12-2005, 05:15:PM
7 years of hard work and FC United is finally in the EPL... great job Ben. :rockman:

Hopeunited
27-12-2005, 05:17:PM
Check this out, strange ratings:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8971/extremeratings0ye.png



And this lol, look at where ManUtd is playing:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2996/mujjb8ea.png

retarded

PSVFOREVER
27-12-2005, 05:26:PM
the first one is strange, the 2nd one isnt, ManU always moves to JJB if they cant play in their own stadium.

Hopeunited
27-12-2005, 06:18:PM
Saw this Italian Super Cup fixture between Milan and some team called Catania, so I was like "WTF is Catania", and I check the Italian Serie A table from last season and wow:

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/5854/catania1qt.png

It was their first season in the Serie A too! Italian version of Kaiserslautern.

PSVFOREVER
27-12-2005, 06:21:PM
I used Catania as my satelite team (add manager, loan a lot of players, retire again (H)) for PSV on Cm03/04 for a while :p

Filipower
27-12-2005, 08:14:PM
congratulations shokz :rockman:

so here it is, gentlemen:jap:

http://83.149.116.24/files666/437122958.jpg

i was about to sell Lebohang, but he didn't want to go to..MILAN:rolleyes: and i might sell Harper too..


anyway, what do u think, guys?

PSVFOREVER
27-12-2005, 10:07:PM
what do the red and yellow boxes mean?

2 Mokoenas are really too much. Nice midfield, though you could get rid of some, you have quite a lot. Defense looks pretty crap

Hopeunited
27-12-2005, 11:55:PM
his defense isn't too bad. Dani Alves is amazing and Grosso is good too. He's got depth there however I gotta admit Boumsong and Mokoena isn't such a powerful combo.

PSVFOREVER
28-12-2005, 11:55:AM
A defense with Titus Bramble in it is per definition bad. Even if the other defenders are Nesta's and Terry's

Hopeunited
28-12-2005, 03:23:PM
A defense with Titus Bramble in it is per definition bad. Even if the other defenders are Nesta's and Terry's
well as long as Bramble has "-" under "Apps" column it's all good I guess.

Filipower
28-12-2005, 03:28:PM
well, i usually play

dani alves------mokoena----boumsong-----babayaro

simao-------alex/bonanni----zokora/parker-----grosso

--------------owen----------luque/tevez------------

then i got kalou, mokoena, dyer, ameobi...

i reckon de defence is a bit crap, but it isn't that bad...i'm actually conceding less and less goals...well, i just started the season, let's see how it comes out in january, if it's too bad i'll sign another defender...



EDIT: i just signed Woodgate, traded Zokora, no fee. (H)

PSVFOREVER
28-12-2005, 04:15:PM
So you trade a perfectly good DC/DM for an always injured DC :(

I started a new game with PSV btw. Just drew Real Madrid 0-0 at Bernabeu. I placed Aissati against Zidane. Aissati totally owned him

Filipower
28-12-2005, 07:56:PM
no, actually i traded a good, replacable midfielder for a great, consistent and not-as-injurable-as-one-thinks hell of a defender, which was what i wanted.. :p


btw, aissati:Bow:

Hopeunited
28-12-2005, 09:31:PM
Aissati is injury-prone in my game with Ajax. I signed him to my U21 team from PSV with a compensation. I loaned him out to NAC Breda in the first season and he suffered a broken leg there without playing a single game and Breda paid him wages for an injured 5 months haha. After he came back from the loan spell he was immediately injured again for 2 months... so far after 2 seasons he's only made 2 first team appearances for me. :p

Dreath
28-12-2005, 10:04:PM
http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/5010/41yay0pk.th.jpg (http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41yay0pk.jpg)

Ivan Helguera gave away all four penalties... all last man and only gets a yellow overall!

dirion
28-12-2005, 10:28:PM
:D

http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/3167/albacete4ht.th.jpg (http://img280.imageshack.us/my.php?image=albacete4ht.jpg)

Very happy that i got promoted to Primera Division:) I'm also happy that i managed to score 104 goals in 42 matches:D Now I'm hoping i can manage not to get relegated from Primera Division! :p

Filipower
28-12-2005, 10:31:PM
what's up with the 'O's and the 'N's?

dirion
28-12-2005, 11:03:PM
what's up with the 'O's and the 'N's?

the O's=promotion. Recreativo got promoted because Castilla is like Real Madrids second team:p
the N's= relegation. Malaga B got relegated because Malaga got relegated from Primera Division:p

understand?

Filipower
28-12-2005, 11:12:PM
yeah, so two teams from the same club can't be in the same division?

dirion
29-12-2005, 08:19:AM
yeah, so two teams from the same club can't be in the same division?

nope, nice for ferrol and recreativo :p

Filipower
29-12-2005, 11:37:AM
yeah, they don't mind at all :p

nor-rbk
29-12-2005, 02:36:PM
Well, a fantastic seasons come to an end for me on FM05 with Ajax, collecting 7 trophies in one season.:p

League: 16 points infront of Feyenoord
Champions League: Ajax 2-0 Roma
Dutch Supercup: Ajax 3-0 Feyenoord
Amstel Cup: Ajax 2-1 PSV Eindhoven
Reserve league: 3 points infront of Feyenoord
U21 league: 4 points infront of PSV Eindhoven
U21 cup: Ajax 4-0 RKC Waalwijk


I finally managed to win the Champions League, never did that before.
Here's the road to victory:

1/8-finals: Real Madrid - Ajax 1-4
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9466/realajax008cn.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=realajax008cn.jpg)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3748/ajaxreal419lc.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ajaxreal419lc.jpg)

1/4-finals Bayern München - Ajax 2-4
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5308/bayernajax210va.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bayernajax210va.jpg)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8922/ajaxbayern307xu.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ajaxbayern307xu.jpg)

1/2-finals Ajax - Juventus 4-2
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6126/ajaxjuventus318kq.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ajaxjuventus318kq.jpg)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6831/juventusajax115zj.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=juventusajax115zj.jpg)

FINAL:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4851/romaajax02finale4pd.jpg

Feels good!(H)

Going for 8 trophies next year :ewan:

PSVFOREVER
29-12-2005, 04:34:PM
wow, looking back at FM05, those shirts look sooooo strange to me. At that time I actually prefered them over the FM06 ones, now I think the FM05 are ugly as hell

Áļéאָ
29-12-2005, 04:59:PM
i dont even notice...:p

Filipower
29-12-2005, 07:18:PM
lol, i downloaded kit packs for both games, so it makes no difference:p

shokz
29-12-2005, 08:12:PM
Man United win their first league title since 2002/03 and I survived relegation. :jap:
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1687/13mb.jpg

barthez4
29-12-2005, 08:20:PM
Congrats on staying up, and glad to see that United finally won.

That's a very unfamiliar group of teams.

Filipower
30-12-2005, 03:17:PM
fantastic shokz:rockman: congrats man


btw, the january transfer window just closed, and i got:

roger
http://83.149.116.24/files666/716852436.jpg

and bendtner(arsenal offered a couple of Mill € + ameobi trade)
http://83.149.116.22/files666/443576792.jpg


roger was international when i bought him, so i didn't exactly know how he was, besides the stats, but then comes this news:
http://83.149.116.21/files666/31534278.jpg
:brow:

plus i put him on 10 minutes to go against chelsea in the FA cup and he tied it:hump:

:jap:

barthez4
30-12-2005, 06:05:PM
So Roger has 2 international caps, a 5 goals? :rockman:

Oh, and how is Bendtner doing? Are you finding that his physical stats are a little bit low despite his good finishing/heading....?

Hopeunited
30-12-2005, 06:34:PM
Bendtner is not bad... decent goalscorer. I am manager of Ajax and Denmark in my game, and Bendtner scores a goal in almost every game for the Danish U21 side.


PS: this is retarded... ever since I started my Ajax game, in ALL 3 seasons, my team has been drawn against my reserve team Ajax 2 in the Dutch Cup at some stage before the finals!!! :nape:

Filipower
30-12-2005, 07:07:PM
so, after i finished my second season at Newcastle, here are the highlights:

EPL Champions:hump:
Champions League Finalist:(
FA and League Cups eliminated.

EPL Champion
http://83.149.116.22/files666/513884822.jpg

Chelsea win, crutial stage of the season
http://83.149.116.23/files666/880398449.jpg

Juve elimination, in Turin
http://83.149.116.21/files666/960983408.jpg

Victory in Champions League semi-final at Old Trafford, Man Utd are my biggest rivals:brow:
http://83.149.116.24/files666/194554226.jpg

Champions League final, biggest disappointment of the season..ruined it really...
http://83.149.116.23/files666/465886194.jpg


quite a good season at the end of the day...i get out EPL winner, and it's off to JUVENTUS, who already want my services :rockman:

there you have it :jap:

barthez4
30-12-2005, 08:20:PM
Nice work, shame about the CL Final, but at least you beat them in the 6-5 thriller.

Filipower
31-12-2005, 06:55:PM
yes, the CL final was probably my fault too...took off owen coz he was mildly injured, and he was still with 80%...so i protected him but got my ass kicked..no worries though..juve's my home now:Bow:

Zlatan
01-01-2006, 05:53:PM
Well a little late but here's as I promised a screenie of the final Bundesliga table :rockman: (BTW notice HSV, saved from relegation on the last day as Kaiserslautern lost :$ )
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/6366/stuttgartchamps19dj.th.jpg (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stuttgartchamps19dj.jpg)

And for the first time since I play CM/FM I get a small stadium expansion. :lui:
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/8179/expgds10gm.th.jpg (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=expgds10gm.jpg)

shokz
01-01-2006, 08:05:PM
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6798/clspot3xd.jpg
Champions League, we're avin a laugh. :ewan: