If u can answer yes to the title of this thread and ur an adult then ur a sad case and should support the team nearest ur home town!

well, I'm 17, support AC Milan and Manchester City... I saw Milan vs. Man Utd in New Jersey in the summer, but that was it

ive only seen united play once, but ive probly watched over 200 united games on tv in the last 6 years

ive seen feyenoord play a few times, and ive seen Holland at euro2000.

ive seen ajax a few times and ive seen arsenal, barcelona, lazio, valencia, liverpool play :)

TV fans should be slaughtered!

yawn

in a quarrelsome mood today then jackie. :p

Me.

No not Yawn!

Footballs in a terrible state cos people in places like Australia, China, Finland and Venzuela go about proclaiming undying love for Man Utd, Real Madrid or any of the other giants u care to mention instead of giving much needed support to the little boys by actually attending a game at their nearest stadium but instead they give billionaires like Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch their cash.

Jackie, you have to be nuts for labelling the majority of us "plastic fans". I do support my local team (New England Revolution), but choose not to go to matches mainly for a couple of reasons:

I. Tickets are too gotdang expensive
II. Parking is too gotdang expensive
III. Since I do not have a driver's license, going to matches is a pain in the arse, since the home ground is located in a rural area, and there are no public transport links to the stadium.
IV. I have no job, and therefore, no discretionary income.

I also support Aston Villa and Benfica, but obviously due to a massive body of water seperating me from the two clubs, I've never been to Villa Park or Estádio da Luz.

No job, no money, no close team to support.

I don't really support any team in particular, only a neutral that likes to watch good football.

I live like 700 kilimetres away of the City that hosts my favourite team, that is Central, not so supported by media on Argentina. My home town does not have any team on any important Argentine Division (They're relegated from fourth division, WTF) and the nearest one are at 100+ km playing Third Division, known as Juventud Unida Universitario, but, their City is the "rival" of ours, so, I cannot support them >.>

The one who said "TV supporters should die" or something similar should live in Argentina, where media are hyping up River and Boca constantly, even if they don't win a thing, and almost all the clubs are in Buenos Aires (eastest city) due to unfairly rules for other provinces <.<

everyone that watches their team on TV should die!!!!

/sarcasm

yes! kill everyone who watches their team on tv.:kader: :kader: :kader:

jackie, perhaps YOU are the sad case?

if you think that ppl should support their local team, well that's great... i agree.

but what is wrong with supporting a team in another country?

and did you know that ppl can actually support multiple teams?

... and anyways why do you even care which team other ppl support????:confused: :confused:

PK

My local team got bankrupt and practically extinct. The other team, bah, I hate them to death . . .

I would come and see Man U play, but then again how the **** am I suppose to do that when I`m not a rich guy and lives 2000 miles away ? You figure that out . . . Who are you to say that we are not real fans cos` we only watch `em on TV ?

This thread sucks balls . . . :rolleyes:

i think your pretty sad for insulting us just because we are unable to fly over to Europe like nothing. I support my local team with all my heart, but is it so wrong to support a inEurope. Is it not aloud or something?

I agree with you (Hans), I should do a map of Argentine teams, Buenos Aires Teams corrupting the system is not fun at all for people that don't live there

Originally posted by jackie4
If u can answer yes to the title of this thread and ur an adult then ur a sad case and should support the team nearest ur home town!

oh yeah? YOU try living in the US.:kader:

besides, i'm italian at heart (not nationality)

forza juve...

and by the way, i never saw them play on tv either, only once on the computer when it was against milan and the real player site was streaming it for free...

I support Liverpool, and have never been to Anfield... yeah I could go to the local stadium to watch Ferroviaria play, but they suck... and the thought of being in this terrible weather to watch that kind of football just isn't an option, 30 degrees Celsius at night... and the games are always around 4 pm....
yeah I've been to the local stadium, yeah I've seen them play, but I don't have any feelings for them... I can assure you I do have feelings for Liverpool though

Originally posted by Kibe Kru
I support Liverpool, and have never been to Anfield... yeah I could go to the local stadium to watch Ferroviaria play, but they suck... and the thought of being in this terrible weather to watch that kind of football just isn't an option, 30 degrees Celsius at night... and the games are always around 4 pm....
yeah I've been to the local stadium, yeah I've seen them play, but I don't have any feelings for them... I can assure you I do have feelings for Liverpool though

But see, i STILL envy you, the only other football games i ever get to see is in the local high school team
(i'm on the high school team but i'm too young for the 1st team)

at least you get to watch a proper game.
be happy man......

Number one, i hate Galaxy fans.

Number two, it is a nightmare just getting to the stadium in this city.

Number three, it is too god damn expensive.


Going a little more local, i do try to be there at most games that are played on my area, but it is pretty hard to keep up with every single one......even though i live just a few blocks away from the soccer fields.....:confused:





As for Chivas of Mexico, yes i have been to Guadalajara around eight times, three of those i went to chivas games, and i saw then play once in Stadio Azteca of Mexico city.

As mentioned before, here in the US i really feel nothing for the players, and i hardly follow any teams. I'd rather read the news, or view a couple of games on tv back from my native area. Even if i don't live there anymore.

And for that reason, I NEVER watched Argentina but I watched Brazil, and I think I'll not support Brazil :/

Well when the NSL was still around I supported Adelaide went to a few games only a few games being i'm about 2hrs from the stadium and getting through the city to get there and find parking is a nightmare.

In europe I support Liverpool mainly coz harry plays for them, but i'll usually support any team that has an Australian playing for them. But yeh I'll usually try and catch any match thats being show on free to air tv.

I m a Hong Kong 16 yearold boy and i support Manchester United.
I dont agree that we should not support the team if we havent seen them play in the stadium. I have seen about 150 or even more United games on TV.

Manchester United have gone to Hong Kong once years ago and at that time i was like 6 or 7 yearold. i didnt go and see them play at that time...but i will go and queue like 2 or 3 days for the tickets when Manchester United come and play again! no matter which players come...they are UNITED!

ps. Manchester United is likely to come to Asia (including Hong Kong) in the coming year.

ive seen united play a few times, its bloddy costly getting up their tho

if ur supposed to support ur local team then shouldnt u support them all?

e.g. if u live in manchester, shouldnt u support city and united considering they are local?

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i still support all my local teams, nearest football league team is brighton which is about 40mins away, there is no football team in the football league in this county atall. i also want pompey and southampton to do well because they are local (between 1 and 2 hours away) to me.

Man this thread is hilarious!

Boohoo... get over it. This is getting boring.

I strongly agree Jackie

I was born in Newcastle and until we moved south me and my father used to attend Newcastle games regularly but at the age of 11 we moved south to Lincoln. Lincoln City is only a league 2 club but i've supported them since moving here as i strongly believe in supporting my local team. I occasionally get back up to Newcastle for the odd game but it's very difficult as spare tickets are whipped in hours so most of my saturdays are spent supporting Lincoln at home and away.

I can see why an American or anyone else around the World would want to support a European team, etc but what gets me annoyed is when English people don't support their local team.

@jackie4

I've seen Porto play once, had the luck they came to Belgium during the pre-season.
The rest of the games I follow on tv as there's quite a gap between both countries.
What you're saying is BS: I'm a fan since I'm 10-years old, it's not coz someone can only watch the games on tv that they're gloryhunters. Think before you post... :kader:

I lived in Salford in the early 90´s cause of the hard situation that it was in Latvia that time and my grandparents lived there too, my dad took me to see 2 United games in the 92/93 season (against Tottenham and Coventry), i dont remember those games too good i was way too little back then,i am a fan of Man United since then :)

But then both my, grandmother and grandfather died in early 94 :(

We went to Estonia, we lived there for an year and came back to Latvia, Riga in 1995.Now i have to deal with the fact that i have to watch Unitedplay only on tv , but i go to allmost all the matches that my local club plays.

Originally posted by Andrejs
I lived in Salford in the early 90´s cause of the hard situation that it was in Latvia that time and my grandparents lived there too, my dad took me to see 2 United games in the 92/93 season (against Tottenham and Coventry), i dont remember those games too good i was way too little back then,i am a fan of Man United since then :)

But then both my, grandmother and grandfather died in early 94 :(

We went to Estonia, we lived there for an year and came back to Latvia, Riga in 1995.Now i have to deal with the fact that i have to watch Unitedplay only on tv , but i go to allmost all the matches that my local club plays.

Then ur OK!

There are of course circumstances where u CAN support a team from afar. Yours in one, where u did actually live near to the club u support at one time, though I'm glad u watch the local side.

Originally posted by Tajike
@jackie4

it's not coz someone can only watch the games on tv that they're gloryhunters.

In the main, YES IT IS.

Why don't u support a Belgian side?

Originally posted by 8ecks7
ive seen united play a few times, its bloddy costly getting up their tho

if ur supposed to support ur local team then shouldnt u support them all?

e.g. if u live in manchester, shouldnt u support city and united considering they are local?

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Of course, u don't have to support them all, I just reckon the best choice would be the one nearest u home. And NO I don't think u should change ur team if u move house. For example if u grew up near Highbury and therefore became an Arsenal fan, then u move to Barcelona for work I wouldn't expect u to become a Barcelona or Espanyol fan.

I'm a huge Boavista fan in Portugal

I went to all home matches in the last 4 years, 6 away matches (3 in Antas, 1 in Dragao, 1 in Alverca, 1 in Barcelos) and 'till 4 years ago I wento to about 10 home matches

I'm also a fan of Man U, Juventus and Barcelona

I've been to 2 Man U matches: 1 in Bessa vs Boavista and 1 in Dragao vs FC Porto. I watch almost every other match on tv (unless SporTV and Sky don't broadcast them)

Never been to a Juve or Barcelona match, but I watch them every week on tv

btw : (N) stupid thread

:lui: :fluffy: 800 FUNKY POSTS :fluffy: :lui:

My home town club is Ajax. So I can answer ''no'' to that question. :D

And so can i answer NO. I was born in Duke Street in Glasgow which as any Glaswegian can tell you is a goal kick away from Celtic Park. However I lived for 5 years almost next to Partick Thistle's stadium so my oldest son supports them.

I support Milan and Liverpool, only watched them on TV. However, i support my local team here in Brazil (Guarani Futebol Clube) since i was 7-8 years and i used to be a regular at the stadium.

Not anymore, didnt attend a single game this year, but when i get a driving license i'll probably attend every game, for the price of 10 bucks each. Now i dont really have the money to take a bus, as i do it every day twice (to go study and to go back home).

I'll probably have to watch us in 2nd division though, we're top bottom atm.:(

Originally posted by jackie4
If u can answer yes to the title of this thread and ur an adult then ur a sad case and should support the team nearest ur home town!


im only 14 yrs old , and live in Australia where no good quality football is played. The game played here is AFL (australian rules football) , i carnt exactly fly over to england and see chelsea play so i just watch it on TV , and alot of adults in australia can not afford to fly to europe so give people in america, and australia and other places like these a fair break because we have no quality football played here , and wat else are we ment to do.

GO *** ur self u dik head ur the sad case who has posted over 1000 times and i take it ur an adult. Thats just sad , so dont call us the sad people.

Easily offended...

But why don't you support some club of your hometown. The Dutch competition is offently called a "Mickey Mouse-Competition"(Which it is) yet still I'm a huge fan of Ajax and not of some foreign club.

Originally posted by jackie4
In the main, YES IT IS.

Why don't u support a Belgian side?

Coz I don't have a "feeling" with any of those teams. We don't have a home team, so even if I had to choose a Belgian team you could still consider it gloryhunting.
But I won't coz since my childhood my heart bleeds blue and white.

This whole "YOU`RE NOT EUROPEAN OR LIVE IN EUROPE SO YOU CAN`T SUPPORT ANY EUROPEAN TEAM UNLESS YOU`RE A GLORYHUNTER" discrimination is getting more and more retarded . . . The arrogance of some Europeans sometimes surprises me . . . If it wasn`t for the Asian market who buys all the merchandising ****s from the European clubs, where would they be ? If it wasn`t for some stupid Asian bitches creamin` their pants on Beckham, where would he be ? :rolleyes:

Discrimination still happening here I can see . . . So much for the "Kick Racism Out of Football" ****s . . . They should`ve made the slogan "Football for Rich Europeans Only" . . .

Originally posted by Hans
This whole "YOU`RE NOT EUROPEAN OR LIVE IN EUROPE SO YOU CAN`T SUPPORT ANY EUROPEAN TEAM UNLESS YOU`RE A GLORYHUNTER" discrimination is getting more and more retarded .

Originally posted by Hans
This whole "YOU`RE NOT EUROPEAN OR LIVE IN EUROPE SO YOU CAN`T SUPPORT ANY EUROPEAN TEAM UNLESS YOU`RE A GLORYHUNTER" discrimination is getting more and more retarded . . . The arrogance of some Europeans sometimes surprises me . . . If it wasn`t for the Asian market who buys all the merchandising ****s from the European clubs, where would they be ? If it wasn`t for some stupid Asian bitches creamin` their pants on Beckham, where would he be ? :rolleyes:

Discrimination still happening here I can see . . . So much for the "Kick Racism Out of Football" ****s . . . They should`ve made the slogan "Football for Rich Europeans Only" . . .

Agreed (Y)

This is a heavily retarded thread and jackie, you are a moron.

I will support anyone I like.I won't support a group of un-skilled idiots just because it is near my home.
Besides, like Hans says about Beckham, the big clubs survive because of the foreign fans.For example, Manchester United are the richest club in the world and yet 80% of their income (80 percent!!) comes from foreign fans, mainly even outside of Europe.The big clubs would hardly be so big if they didn't have foreign fans.Come to think of it, what makes the club so great is the fans.

Someone close this.

this has to be one of the most retarded threads ever

I hate people who pretends to be something else they are not though. For example, for supporting international games. I mean I know there were a lot more Asians in this forum, but only a minority of them posts about their own Asian side.

I would list people, but I don't want to get too far ahead with anyone here, and I'm sure you people know exactly what the hell I'm talking about. Show some national pride people. Just because your nation isn't big and keen on soccer, doesn't mean you should go support some other famous team and redeem yourself with their records and the feeling that you are now detached from your own country.



Oh and since I posted here, I guess I should prove myself. Watch DC United regularly being a local and all; a bit hard sometimes because you practically fall asleep, but they redeem themselves. And Feyenoord; oversea but try to watch them regularly given the hard condition. Feyenoord is the only European side I support though. I really have no interest in any other leagues as much as Casino Eredevisie.

Dear Jackie

i'll tell you a little something because you obviously don't have a clue when it comes to Australia.
Firstly i go to all perth glory games (being our local side) that was until the national league here in Australia went broke. Now we are in the process of designing a new league with new teams and a new corporate investment system to make it work.
So don't tell Aussie Fans they should be supporting Aussie teams because their is no national comp at the moment

Second thing that you don't seem to understand.

In australia our country was BUILT onn immigration. English , Irish , Scottish, German , Middle Eastern and Asian countires too now i don't know why you support who you do but i bet that your father and your family told you when you were growing up who to support .... i think its hearts but i could be wrong. So this family "upbringing" plays a large part in team selection
leads me to my point ... because of our diverse culture ... people grow up loving teams their parents loved.... i love liverpool because my dad put me on to them when i was old enough to understand. My best friends dad told him all about southampton .... my dad is English so are all my uncles but according to your theory they should support a team closer to their living location ?

Thirdly I have been to anfield twice .. saw them beat west brom and drew with FC Basel. Does that make me anymore of a supporter than Joe Smith who watches every game on tv and has liverpool in his heart ... hell no and who are you to tell people otherwise ?

Originally posted by jackie4
No not Yawn!

Footballs in a terrible state cos people in places like Australia, China, Finland and Venzuela go about proclaiming undying love for Man Utd, Real Madrid or any of the other giants u care to mention instead of giving much needed support to the little boys by actually attending a game at their nearest stadium but instead they give billionaires like Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch their cash.

he's talking about me :fluffy: :fluffy: :fluffy: i made to his head.... my life is complete :mrpimp:

nice thread my friend (Y) but just for the record i've been a Milan fan for 16 years ;)

edit: i forgot to anwser, i've seen Milan here in USA and Ajax at the amsterdam arena ;)

C'mon guys let's not make this a highly political discussion it's just this what I can't understand that you feel real love for a club thousends of miles away from you... While there's another club maybe less then 2 miles away from you about which you don't care.

But maybe that's my small townie-minded opinion. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hans
This whole "YOU`RE NOT EUROPEAN OR LIVE IN EUROPE SO YOU CAN`T SUPPORT ANY EUROPEAN TEAM UNLESS YOU`RE A GLORYHUNTER" discrimination is getting more and more retarded . . . The arrogance of some Europeans sometimes surprises me . . . If it wasn`t for the Asian market who buys all the merchandising ****s from the European clubs, where would they be ? If it wasn`t for some stupid Asian bitches creamin` their pants on Beckham, where would he be ? :rolleyes:

Discrimination still happening here I can see . . . So much for the "Kick Racism Out of Football" ****s . . . They should`ve made the slogan "Football for Rich Europeans Only" . . .

Agree 100%...

aight we all agree that the **** who started this thread is a dik head and should be shot down ..

haha nah jks , but just realise that you are very lucky to be living in Europe with quality leagues and it isnt fair to discriminate people from Australia , usa etc, that follow these world class teams, and some of us are just as passionate or if more than some fans living there in Europe.

Originally posted by Zlatan
C'mon guys let's not make this a highly political discussion it's just this what I can't understand that you feel real love for a club thousends of miles away from you... While there's another club maybe less then 2 miles away from you about which you don't care.

But maybe that's my small townie-minded opinion. :rolleyes:

It's easy when Ajax is close to you isnt it? Anyway, i support my local team aswell, so i dont really care.

Originally posted by Zlatan
C'mon guys let's not make this a highly political discussion it's just this what I can't understand that you feel real love for a club thousends of miles away from you... While there's another club maybe less then 2 miles away from you about which you don't care.

But maybe that's my small townie-minded opinion. :rolleyes:
I can't understand something also. You're in no position to talk either asswipe. If you've read my post, you would've learned about the lack of national pride which I hoped to take effect but obviously didn't, eh Mr. El Salvador?

You probably came from a thousEnds of miles from Amsterdam and happen to live off Amsterdam Holland. Look and reflect over your "luck" of happening to live in Amsterdam, and then see if you are in any position to talk with that arrogance.


Am I assuming? Yes, but is it true? You can answer that without telling me.

It's not about which team is located near you or whatever bullshlt, it's who YOU enjoy WATCHING, GODDAMIT.

*talking about club teams here..

Originally posted by Hyun
I hate people who pretends to be something else they are not though. For example, for supporting international games. I mean I know there were a lot more Asians in this forum, but only a minority of them posts about their own Asian side.


If I made a thread about the Indonesian NT and the Indonesian league, how many people do you think will reply ? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hans
If I made a thread about the Indonesian NT and the Indonesian league, how many people do you think will reply ? :rolleyes:
:confused: I'm not directing this toward you. I've actually seen you post about your nation. I'm talking about the ones who don't even mention their own nation's name even once.

im a Fan of Deportivo Cali a club team from my country ive seen them play lots of times when i go to Colombia, I truly dont live in that city i go to another one witch has a d1 team .But i dont like them i just havnet lived in that city. I just go there for the summer because thats where my parents are from.
And im a fan of Inter milan i never seen them play live on a stadium but i love to watch them on tv they are my favorite European team... but one thing i have to agree with is some people that support more than 2 teams ,and specially from Europe isnt 2 a bit to much? i dont mind if you support one from Europe and one from Asia or another continent but having like 4 teams from Europe... thats a bit to off

i wish my home town here in Canada would have a soccer team, but instead i have to support their hockey team :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hans
If I made a thread about the Indonesian NT and the Indonesian league, how many people do you think will reply ? :rolleyes:

Alot, but most of them would be lame ,sarcastic attempts to be funny :kader:

If you really care that much if fans have only seen their club on tv, then you should get a life. Why make this thread? Do you want everyone to say, "hey, look at that hardcore Rangers fan, I bet he has watched hundreds of rangers games, he hates 'tv fans'? Well im sorry to tell you it didnt work, now we all think you're a dumb **** who need to get a life...or a dildo.

Originally posted by Hyun
I can't understand something also. You're in no position to talk either asswipe. If you've read my post, you would've learned about the lack of national pride which I hoped to take effect but obviously didn't, eh Mr. El Salvador?

You probably came from a thousEnds of miles from Amsterdam and happen to live off Amsterdam Holland. Look and reflect over your "luck" of happening to live in Amsterdam, and then see if you are in any position to talk with that arrogance.


Am I assuming? Yes, but is it true? You can answer that without telling me.
You're really making me angry man. I was born in Amsterdam(In het Amsterdam Medisch Centrum if you'd like to know) I live in the centre of the city. And El Salvador is the nickname of another great Amsterdam player called: Hendrik Johannes Cruijff. If you're a really fan of football you should know that.

Originally posted by lil_kewell
im only 14 yrs old , and live in Australia where no good quality football is played. The game played here is AFL (australian rules football) , i carnt exactly fly over to england and see chelsea play so i just watch it on TV , and alot of adults in australia can not afford to fly to europe so give people in america, and australia and other places like these a fair break because we have no quality football played here , and wat else are we ment to do.

GO *** ur self u dik head ur the sad case who has posted over 1000 times and i take it ur an adult. Thats just sad , so dont call us the sad people.

ooooohhhhh! touched a nerve there eh? u have proved my point really. There are too many fans who see the English, Spanish or Italian leagues on TV and think"They're playing in a major league that gets loads of coverage and money. I think I'll follow them."

U being 14 of course excludes u from being a sad case since ur not old enough to remember the days before TV made football a small business that thinks it's big.

Originally posted by maddog1983
Dear Jackie

i'll tell you a little something because you obviously don't have a clue when it comes to Australia.
Firstly i go to all perth glory games (being our local side) that was until the national league here in Australia went broke. Now we are in the process of designing a new league with new teams and a new corporate investment system to make it work.
So don't tell Aussie Fans they should be supporting Aussie teams because their is no national comp at the moment

Second thing that you don't seem to understand.

In australia our country was BUILT onn immigration. English , Irish , Scottish, German , Middle Eastern and Asian countires too now i don't know why you support who you do but i bet that your father and your family told you when you were growing up who to support .... i think its hearts but i could be wrong. So this family "upbringing" plays a large part in team selection
leads me to my point ... because of our diverse culture ... people grow up loving teams their parents loved.... i love liverpool because my dad put me on to them when i was old enough to understand. My best friends dad told him all about southampton .... my dad is English so are all my uncles but according to your theory they should support a team closer to their living location ?

Thirdly I have been to anfield twice .. saw them beat west brom and drew with FC Basel. Does that make me anymore of a supporter than Joe Smith who watches every game on tv and has liverpool in his heart ... hell no and who are you to tell people otherwise ?

erm no. I have previously said in this thread that if for example u grew up near Highbury but moved to Barcelona I wouldn't expect u to change from being an Arsenal fan to Barca or Espanyol.

Try reading all the posts and not just the first one matey!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AhmedK
If you really care that much if fans have only seen their club on tv, then you should get a life. Why make this thread? Do you want everyone to say, "hey, look at that hardcore Rangers fan, I bet he has watched hundreds of rangers games, he hates 'tv fans'? Well im sorry to tell you it didnt work, now we all think you're a dumb **** who need to get a life...or a dildo. [/QUOTE

I'm not a Rangers fan or for that matter a Hearts fan as sum1 else guessed on this thread.

If any of u had bothered to read every post u would know who I support and why?

OH BTW I'm the only person who was interested in football in my house when I was growing up. My brother likes golf and my father liked horse racing. So that buggers up the "My dad told me who to support theory."

Just so u know I'm not labeling u all as gloryhunters, I'm also against long distance support of teams such as Crewe Alexandra, Ancona, Chateauroux and Partick Thistle.

I simply won't accept any excuse for supporting a team thousands of miles away just cos u see them on satellite TV.

With two exceptions, if ur disabled and can't get to ur local ground then that is fair enough. Or if ur working to provide for ur family and can't make it to matches that's also fair. But I won't hear lame excuses for making Rupert Murdoch or Ted Turner even richer as well as the pampered players.

Phew...I live about 1000 km/10 hours away from Munich.


Bayern are not my local club (which plays in the 8th division) but I'm "connected" with the club since I started getting interested into football. When I was 5 my aunt who's a Bayern fan took me to a game in Munich. Then the questions of a stupid 5 year old:"Who are the good ones? Which team has to win? Answer:"The Red guys."

I currently don't have enough time to go to too many games, my last game is actually 10 months back. :(

I can get to my local ground yeah, but why should I go there and watch senseless football? I mean... the local side isn't even on the lowest level of national football, and that's after I moved here... when I lived in Mirandopolis, the city I was born in, and lived until I was 16, there was no football stadium, and the nearest one was 50 miles away... in no way I'd get on a bus to go watch a football game in another city, who has a fierce rivalry with my own town.... even if just to see them lose, I'm not like that... I want the team I support to win, and not other teams to lose

Originally posted by Zlatan
You're really making me angry man. I was born in Amsterdam(In het Amsterdam Medisch Centrum if you'd like to know) I live in the centre of the city. And El Salvador is the nickname of another great Amsterdam player called: Hendrik Johannes Cruijff. If you're a really fan of football you should know that.
I'm really gonna apologize for that. My own word about assuming got the worst of me. I've gone overboard, and obviously I just lost track of everything. But you've been arrogant about being close to your team though. I mean there are people who support all gloryhunting like and stuff, but some also know themselves, and recognize their local stuff y'know.

Anyway, I'm just gonna back away from this whole discussion. My intention to post in these threads are to put some patriotism in some of the unfortunate members here, but yet again, no success.

Originally posted by Hyun
I hate people who pretends to be something else they are not though. For example, for supporting international games. I mean I know there were a lot more Asians in this forum, but only a minority of them posts about their own Asian side.

I would list people, but I don't want to get too far ahead with anyone here, and I'm sure you people know exactly what the hell I'm talking about. Show some national pride people. Just because your nation isn't big and keen on soccer, doesn't mean you should go support some other famous team and redeem yourself with their records and the feeling that you are now detached from your own country.



I agree with you 100% on this one. It particularly annoyed me when someone from HK was cheering for Japan instead of China during the Asian Cup.:rolleyes:

@Jackie4: man, get a life instead of looking for gloryhunters on an internet forum. I certainly don't care what someone who I dont know and will probably never know in real life thinks of me. For this reason alone, I don't think I have to explain to the whole world why I am after Man Utd. However, I would like to point out that I've always been after my local team in China since I started watching football - and what's more, I would be more than happy to talk about my local team if I can find enough people in SG that are interested in the Chinese league.BAH!:rolleyes:

The people of HK cheering for Japan against China is of course a political reaction which is for another thread in another forum.

On the patriotism point, although I'm not in favour of nationalism in any way I definitely agree that supporting ur local team is the best way to stop the strong pulling farther and farther away from the weak, something Rupert Murdoch would love to see happen as he tried to buy a majority stake in Man Utd of course, as well as owning Sky and Fox.

Originally posted by jackie4
No not Yawn!

Footballs in a terrible state cos people in places like Australia, China, Finland and Venzuela go about proclaiming undying love for Man Utd, Real Madrid or any of the other giants u care to mention instead of giving much needed support to the little boys by actually attending a game at their nearest stadium but instead they give billionaires like Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch their cash.

screw you :kader:

and just in case, i do support the local teams in my city :rolleyes:

dumbfart :kader:

Originally posted by claupastore
screw you :kader:

and just in case, i do support the local teams in my city :rolleyes:

dumbfart :kader:

If u support ur local team why bother posting?

Oh and name calling is the last bastion of the desperate.

Originally posted by claupastore
screw you :kader:



Made in Venezuela :read: :rockman:

That's my boy :mrpimp:

I fail to see the point of this thread.

Was it to convince us not to support a team that isn't next to our home?
:rofl:
And I fail to see why this thread hasn't been closed yet.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by jackie4
Just so u know I'm not labeling u all as gloryhunters, I'm also against long distance support of teams such as Crewe Alexandra, Ancona, Chateauroux and Partick Thistle.

I simply won't accept any excuse for supporting a team thousands of miles away just cos u see them on satellite TV.

With two exceptions, if ur disabled and can't get to ur local ground then that is fair enough. Or if ur working to provide for ur family and can't make it to matches that's also fair. But I won't hear lame excuses for making Rupert Murdoch or Ted Turner even richer as well as the pampered players.

maybe it's the fact that a lot of the people here aren't based in europe? so what if they haven't seen their favourite team in action " when it counts" at a home or away match, people will watch whoever they want, whenever they want? why? becuase they are attracted to the football or the players who are on that club, what the **** does it matter? it makes them no less a fan. could it be they were brought into supporting their team but by some twist of fate they don't live in the city or even the country, pull the wool from over your eyes and just leave these people the **** alone, so just because i dont' support ballymena united does that mean i'm a glory hunter? no, i just dont' wish to see 4th division Northern Irish football......


get a ****in life.

yeah i fail to see why this hasn't been closed.

Its obviously a wind-up!

Originally posted by Filippo_Inzaghi
maybe it's the fact that a lot of the people here aren't based in europe? so what if they haven't seen their favourite team in action " when it counts" at a home or away match, people will watch whoever they want, whenever they want? why? becuase they are attracted to the football or the players who are on that club, what the **** does it matter? it makes them no less a fan. could it be they were brought into supporting their team but by some twist of fate they don't live in the city or even the country, pull the wool from over your eyes and just leave these people the **** alone, so just because i dont' support ballymena united does that mean i'm a glory hunter? no, i just dont' wish to see 4th division Northern Irish football......


get a ****in life.

:rockman:

Jackie haven't you got anything else to do with your life other than making retarded threads and posting meaningless replies?

again, dumbfart :kader:

Or let's talk about Argentine Third Division, the nearest league team I have (all my Home Town's Team are in No-Division, that's below Fourth) that are rivals of my town :rolleyes:

Originally posted by NIDOKING
Or let's talk about Argentine Third Division, the nearest league team I have (all my Home Town's Team are in No-Division, that's below Fourth) that are rivals of my town :rolleyes:

Yeah, lol.

Let's ignore the Champions League.

As of this moment, I am no longer a Barca fan.I will dedicate myself to watching 5th division Croatian league games.Should be fun.

Originally posted by zka
:rockman:

Jackie haven't you got anything else to do with your life other than making retarded threads and posting meaningless replies?

As ur offended by my thread may I say that as a disabled person I'm offended by ur use of the word retarded.

People who are retardad have no control over their situation.

I've already held my hands up and admitted that this thread is a wind-up so have a sense of humour and realise that there is one point to be made. That the game in Europe has been made financially richer by TV is indisputable. I have to say that it has been a good thing because youth development in the major countries has lead to skill levels increasing tenfold. France for example won the World Cup in 1998 with an exciting brand of attacking football mixed with strength which only came from coaching and that costs money.

Originally posted by zka
For example, Manchester United are the richest club in the world and yet 80% of their income (80 percent!!) comes from foreign fans

According to the Daily Telegraph.

When Manchester United announce their record profits in the annual statement on Monday it is expected to show that broadcast and match day earnings make up around 75 per cent of turnover. The other 25 per cent will come from commercial earnings.

Originally posted by jackie4
erm no. I have previously said in this thread that if for example u grew up near Highbury but moved to Barcelona I wouldn't expect u to change from being an Arsenal fan to Barca or Espanyol.

Try reading all the posts and not just the first one matey!!!

take your own advice buddy ....

Read me whole post and see what i was saying .... for someone who has kids and is a bit older and wiser you would think you would set an example to some of the kids on these boards ... BUT instead its just crap post after crap post out of you and you constantly tell people how to support and that they are wrong in their support..... I feel sorry for you man ... you need to go out side and get some sun

Originally posted by jackie4
As ur offended by my thread may I say that as a disabled person I'm offended by ur use of the word retarded.

Originally posted by jackie4

People who are retardad have no control over their situation.

SO let me get this right your offended by the term retard then you use it to classify people who have a disablility .... smart man karma is going to get you good if your winding on the dissablility
Originally posted by jackie4

I've already held my hands up and admitted that this thread is a wind-up so have a sense of humour and realise that there is one point to be made.
So its all a wind up after all ... shows you have no class to deliberately get fans arguing

or postboosting ;)

Jackie - who was I supposed to know you are disabled?
I apologize, tho.I didn't know.

shokz - I've read it in a magazine.It was an interview with United's marketing manager or something like that.And it's foreign 'market', not 'fans'.My mistake.
In any case, it's just what I've read.But I think it's pretty accurate since the guy said so himself.

god this thread has got a bit irate hasnt it, lol

anyway... i support Rotherham, Liverpool and Valencia.

Ive seen Rotherham and liverpool lots of times but never been to spain to see valencia.

lol

TROD.

Think I understood jackie4's point, and sort of agree with it. He was actually trying to say that the best way to help football is supporting your local team. His comments were full of sarcasm to some point but some people missed it and thought he was attacking the foreign legion of ManU, Real, etc. supporters...

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Oh, and I support a Malasyan team: Johor FC

Isn't that ironic? (H)

Nah. I was at the wind-up but if sum1 wants to start a serious thread on TV's effect on football then I'm willing to join the debate.

Originally posted by INFESTA
Think I understood jackie4's point, and sort of agree with it. He was actually trying to say that the best way to help football is supporting your local team. His comments were full of sarcasm to some point but some people missed it and thought he was attacking the foreign legion of ManU, Real, etc. supporters...


Well that's an interesting interpretation... you put quite the spin on it!;)
I don't think many people would argue that it's important to support your local team... and not only local football but all local sports and all local arts, business etc.
But Infesta, please read the original post again. That is the most important post. Jackie did not say anything about "helping football".
When someone writes something people are going to take it for what it's worth. It's tough to read between the lines and try to interpret what others are "really trying to say" or whether they are being sarcastic (which btw, I don't think he was).
If you write something, you have to live up to it. Read the post again. People did not "think" he was attacking the foreign legions of fans... he DID attack the foreign legion!
And if it was a "wind up" then I don't have much respect for people who use insults to "wind others up". If you want to start a provocative debate I applaud you, but please use your intelligence to inspire ppl, not insults to offend them--that's too easy.
Let's see some more quality next time Jackie.;)

Actually pklimos if u look through the thread I did make the point that giving support to teams just cos they're on TV is only going to make the strong stronger and the weak weaker so that is going to help football but as I was at the wind-up and a lot of guys didn't see the humour in it I'll say no more.

Oh and I didn't insult anyone. I was called a few things but didn't retaliate....SO THERE!!!!!

Originally posted by jackie4
I was at the wind-up and a lot of guys didn't see the humour in it I'll say no more.

I must have missed something as from what I've read you totally slagged off most of the users on here...

I don't have a problem with overseas fans and people can support who they like. What does piss me off is fans switching teams all the time when they win...the real glory hunters...

The Old Firm have loads of overseas Supporters clubs and I bet you wouldn't slag your fellow tic fans...

Originally posted by Rangers_1873
I must have missed something as from what I've read you totally slagged off most of the users on here...

I don't have a problem with overseas fans and people can support who they like. What does piss me off is fans switching teams all the time when they win...the real glory hunters...

The Old Firm have loads of overseas Supporters clubs and I bet you wouldn't slag your fellow tic fans...

Which users did I slag off then and what did I say?

It's easy enough to look.

Originally posted by jackie4
No not Yawn!

Footballs in a terrible state cos people in places like Australia, China, Finland and Venzuela go about proclaiming undying love for Man Utd, Real Madrid or any of the other giants u care to mention instead of giving much needed support to the little boys by actually attending a game at their nearest stadium but instead they give billionaires like Ted Turner and Rupert Murdoch their cash.

BTW here's a quote from me to prove that I think supporting ur local team would help those most in need of support in football.

haha check all the glory hunters in this thread getting emotional (H)

well, i follow liverpool on tv (H) but only cause when i was like 8 everyone was supporting english teams so i started following liverpool. but thats about it, i dont consider myself a "supporter" or anything :hump:

True enough Gavin.

But ur an Aberdeen fan so u do the right thing. I suppose if u wanna use that phrase "glory-hunter" then ok but the thing is that in football teams gain more fans by being successful.

Man Utd are an obvious exception. When they were in division 2 in the 70s they still had the biggest crowds in England. However, TV has given people all around the world access to all the major leagues and teams. Nothing wrong with liking the way a team plays of course and in the case of Man Utd and now Real Madrid if ur good looking and flamboyant like Beckham is, that's going to attract attention from everywhere.

It's all good to support your local side when they play on a top division, or at least a national championship... but when you go to school and everyone talks about the big clubs, it's quite safe to assume you're going to follow one of them... after a few years following that club, you become a supporter....
as for me... well.... I'm on a different situation... I chose to support Liverpool to show my disagreement on how football is treated in Brazil... or maybe I just liked Sporty Spice the best.........

I love Riga Skonto, its my local club and i play for the u17 side, i go to all the home matches i cheer for them like crazy.

I allready explained why i love Man United.

And yes i like Bordeaux cause i see allmost all the games from the TV.

I dont know if im a glory hunter or not but i dont think i am :confused:

i would love to go to Ibrox to see Rangers play every game but i live on the other side of the Atlantic so i cant really make the trip every week. i dont think you should be slagging tv supporters because there could be a lot of reasons for them not being able to go to the game in person.

Originally posted by jackie4
I simply won't accept any excuse for supporting a team thousands of miles away just cos u see them on satellite TV.


Like someone actually gives a **** if you accept it or not.

jackie, I don't support my local team because I don't have one at the moment with no Aussie league - but even when there was I didn't, because all my time is spent following my Aussie Rules team. I go to every match in Melbourne and 90% of the reserves games as well.

As for supporting West Ham, following family lineage, I have to. I have gotten up at 2am in the morning to listen to crappy internet broadcasts, thankfully I am in Sweden ATM and can listen at a better time (or even watch on Sky like Sunday's utter ******* debacle). Once I finish Uni here I am off to England to catch the second half of the season and I am ******* excited about the whole to be honest. My first time seeing West Ham live only 4 months or so away...brilliant.

If I pass your test, great, but if I don't, there'll be no sleep lost.

I can't believe people are still posting on here.

It was supposed to be a joke!

Clearly people are more sensitive than I gave them credit for.

I live in Lithuania but i manage to go to spain and watch 2 Real's games. :)

I'm a BVB Fan,and watch everygame when i cant go to the stadium i'll watch tv or radio.
Barca and Pool i only can see in TV:
Also my Fav Italian team.
BUt dont forget bvb no.1 :o (H)