is macedonia in and of the ISS, PES or WE games? if so can you please tell me the versions? and for those who have it can you send me screen shots of the team names if possible?

it would greatly be appreciated'

thanks

juve27

afraid not :(
not sure for pes4, maybe there's still hope

Macedonia are hidden in PES3.
That's as far as I know.

Originally posted by Kristian III
Macedonia are hidden in PES3.
That's as far as I know.

Where??

Beat international cup on 5 Stars.

are you sure?

I've done it.

Got a host of new teams and I'm sure one of them was Macedonia.

well kristian can i ask you a favour. can you, if you find macedonia make a screen shot of the team.

the reason why i am asking is i saw the new TIF: THIS IS FOOTBALL game and i want to get it because it has nearly all national teams and their real names. not like EURO 2004 where macedonias team was made up. plus i also want a change from the fifa series who doesnt really delivver a true world touch!!!

Sorry mate, I recently sold PES3 to my friend as I hated it almost throughout the time I had it. I'm sure someone else has the Macedonian team saved, as hidden teams are not really hard to obtain. Sorry again, wish I could help.

oh ok, looks like if no one can help me ill just purchase the new THIS IS FOOTBALL game. i eally wanted it to be on PES or WE because ppl say that these 2 are way better then fifa!! i wanted to see if ppl were right!!

thanks anyway kristian!!!

WE is better than FIFA by far in my opinion. Cant speak for TIF because i never played this one.

Haha Kristian...thats the dumbest BS ive ever heard...

ok then my final question for this thread!!!

which game is more complete (teams wise) PES or WE??

btw this doesnt mean i have given up on hope that one of you can provide me with a screenshot or advice on which game has my macedonia!!!

PES, WE they are both the same thing....there is no macedonia....its pretty obvious the guy was bullsh!tting

Originally posted by MadAZNFootballe
Haha Kristian...thats the dumbest BS ive ever heard...

Why the f*ck would I want to bullsh*t for?

Macedonia is a hidden team in PES3 you arrogant sack of sh*t.


EDIT: And futhermore, WE is not entirely the same as PE.
PE is infact based on WE, but it's not the EXACT same game.
Think about it, certain european expansions in each PE from WE
games of the same year, which automatically gives the answer to djperthglory's question.

Go play FIFA.

Macedonia is a hidden team for real.

You have to beat the Int cup on 5 stars, scoring a Zidane header off the post in the final.

See Listen to this guy.
He's got a head on his shoulders.

I thank you Jumbo.

oh ok thanks then i might purchase pes3

however, do u have t score a zidane header off the post to unlock macedonia too???

Originally posted by djperthglory
oh ok thanks then i might purchase pes3

however, do u have t score a zidane header off the post to unlock macedonia too???

If you didnt notice jumbo was kidding.

Originally posted by jw87
If you didnt notice jumbo was kidding.

Yes so funny:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by jw87
If you didnt notice jumbo was kidding.


.........

Macedonia wear a red and yellow striped kit right?

yes they do, they have changed just recently to a red and white strip!!

next time you BS Kristian i suggest you actually have evidence to back it up...

buddy, just make ur own macedonia team in pes, doesnt matter if its in the game or not

Originally posted by MadAZNFootballe
next time you BS Kristian i suggest you actually have evidence to back it up...

F*ck you.
I've already told you I have no reason to bullsh*t.
F*cking prat.

kirstian your really starting to annoy many forum members.

if your'e gonna be a loser to everyone leave now

Originally posted by Larry
kirstian your really starting to annoy many forum members.

if your'e gonna be a loser to everyone leave now

I'm trying to provide someone with honest help.
If somesone's going to provoke me by reffering
to my advice as bullsh*t then don't expect me to ignore it.
Expect me to retaliate rather.

woah i didnt expect 1 question would turn this thread into ajoke and arguement thread!!!:rolleyes:

prove your point and i would gladly STFU.....thats right...you can't...get a life and use colloquial english instead of your childish playground slangs

Originally posted by djperthglory
yes they do, they have changed just recently to a red and white strip!! I saw it on tv, it looks identical to the kit Austria use :o

Listen you f*cking arrogant dolt,
I've already stated before that I can't prove it in no easy way
which is what I'd like. I have done nothing wrong.
Which means you should just quit your little f*cking harrasment game and STFU. Go to f*cking sleep.
If I try to honestly provide someone with help, you either


1. try provide and contribute to the topic, or


2. Simply step the f*ck off.



Simple. Or maybe not to you.

Therefore I shall be waiting for your next ''positive'' reply.
Let's see what we shall make of that.

Its been a long time since ive done it, but im pretty sure you dont unlock any teams by winning the international cup (or any cup) in pes3. And yes i have won everything on 5 stars. Apparently you were supposed to be able to unlock the all star teams by winning something, but konami 'forgot' to enable that. Afaik, they are the only hidden teams in pes3.
Maybe youre confused with another game, or youre confusing with unlocking the classic teams in pes shop, or youre just messing with him, who knows :p

I think in Winning Eleven 7 you can get FYROM by just winning some turneys and aquiring points, then using the points on the WE-Shop to add the team. I currently dont have enough points to look, since i used them on other things you can buy. Can anyone with access to the add team can tell us?

hey hellas please call me by my name not by some stupid thing u greeks think our name is.

i am a macedonian not a former yugolslav rebublic of macedonian

i am sure u wouldny like to be called a former ottoman empire state of greece (FOESG) would u???

Originally posted by djperthglory
hey hellas please call me by my name not by some stupid thing u greeks think our name is.

i am a macedonian not a former yugolslav rebublic of macedonian

i am sure u wouldny like to be called a former ottoman empire state of greece (FOESG) would u???
Sorry for that. I didnt do it on purpose (no hidden nationalism there). Its just that this is how they usualy reffer to your nation. If Im not mistaken, thats the official name too.

But for the sake of argument, your example is not the same. Yugoslavia was a federal republic, the ottoman empire was an...empire....
In other words greeks could not...vote their way off the ottoman empire ;)

touché

Yo.
THIS IS A BIIIIIG PROBLEM. It has nothing to do with nationalism at all.
There is no Macedonia as an independent country, if there was to be one it would be Greek.
People from Sweden, England etc dont understand the point of course... People from the US probably dont even know where Greece actually is.
You should read on if you want to learn the truth from the Greeks' viewpoint; I have never heard the other side anyway, they just claim to be Macedonians, no proof or something similar.



What is Macedonia? Double answer.
Macedonia can be seen both as the piece of land and also as the ancient Greek "empire" that, led by Alexander the Great, once conquered half the Asia.
There is no doubt that Fyrom (just like northern Greece, Yugoslavia, Albania, Bulgary) is sited on the ancient Macedonian land, but what is questionable (if not funny) is the Fyroms' effort to appear as those who continue the "Macedonian tradition"...

THE LAND:
Macedonia is a large area in the Balcans, which nowadays (contrary to the ancient times) does not belong to a single country. There is the Greek part which is the biggest of all, the Bulgarian part, the Yugoslavian part, the Albanian part etc.
All these people however do not claim to be Macedonians, they are just Yugoslavians, Bulgarians and Albanians; just like Fyrom they have nothing in common with the ancient Macedonia apart from the fact that they live on the same land. At those ancient times their ancestors did probably not even know where Macedonia was, they were probably living a "bit" (a lot I'd say actually) more to the north and moved later on to the region.


"THE EMPIRE":
Macedonia as it has been known since the "ancient times", including kings like Alexander the Great, Philip etc, was something like ancient Sparta, Athens and so on. It was yet another independent GREEK city and individual country at the same time. At that time every Greek city was on its own and they usually fought each other; if there was a common enemy though they united and fought together (for example against Persia or much earlier as Homer says against Troy). There was of course no organised Greek country/nation at the time but all these people had, lets say, common ancestors.
But surely there was no Macedonian country/nation the way people from Fyrom mean it, as there was no Albanian etc.

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I bet you know that Alexander, Philip and all these names are Greek. Philip`s body was buried and has been found 50km away from my town, in a place called Vergina. You should also know that Macedonians spoke and wrote Greek and took part in the Olympic Games ( where only Greeks were allowed to do so ). I have never heard of a person named eg. Igor taking part...
Alexander for example was student of some of the greatest Greek philosophers of that time and his father Philip had won a medal in the Olympics.

Now you the "Macedonian" tell me if your ancestors spoke and wrote Greek, if they took part in the Olympic games, if they fought against the Persians and so on. Also if they had names like Alexander, Philip, Olympiad etc. If yes, you are a true Macedonian.
I guess you people from Fyrom also know where these names actually come from (I mean their root), for example, Philip = Filippos = Fil+ippos (that means "the one who loves horses" in case you dont understand the language that Macedonians spoke and wrote).
Except if you tell us that the ancient Macedonians, eg Alexander and his army, had names like Igor, Goran etc. Because all these remind me of Russian/Bulgarian/Hungarian etc names. I apologise (apology, another greek word you should know btw) to people from Russia/Bulgaria/Hungary if I mentioned them by mistake, but I hope that you get my point...
The marbles that have been revealed by the excavations right next to my town (which was in the beginning believed to be the site of the ancient Macedonian palace) have Greek words "written" (its called enscripted I think) on them, there is nothing written in ...Cyrillic. It's that simple, nothing really complex...
Search your whole country and if you find one enscription ageing back 2500 years that is not written in Greek I will believe everything you say.

And btw, tell me why you FYROMs try to "steal" (in greek it is called "kapileia", if you are a Macedonian as you claim you should be able to understand it properly) our nations' history.
Lack of own history perhaps? Lack of national identity I'd say... The saddest thing of all for a nation. You tell me.

There are some nations (including Fyrom I suppose) that have very little history, this cant be changed (sometimes thats good sometimes bad).
You got to try to live with that, instead of stealing other peoples' history, shouting out in every chance that it belongs to you and being proud of something that has nothing to do with you.
Let me give you an example...
The Egyptians built the Pyramids. At that time the Egyptians ruled lands that now belong to other countries. Could you imagine eg. the Syrians changing their country's name into "Democracy of the people of the Nile", putting a pyramid as a symbol on their flag and claiming that they themselves built the Pyramids?
It's at least FUNNY, dont you think?
But thats what these people from Fyrom are doing now...
Of course the Syrians that I mentioned above do have their own history as a nation and do not feel the need to steal pieces from others to complete the puzzle...
There is another difference. Syrians would be ""allowed"" to some extent to claim something like this because they did exist at that time as a nation, contrary to the Fyroms who, let me be generous, have a history of 1000 years and by no means 2500 or more...

Greece has existed for thousands of years now, "Macedonia" the way that people from Fyrom mean it is just another one of the many "inventions" of the USA in the Balcan and not only region in their effort to have some weak nations under their control.
Go check out the recent survey that shows which nations worlwide (not politicians but the peopleS) support the US. I bet Fyrom is top five together with Albania of course. No question why... For the same reason that there is no question for Israel and ...Afghanistan.



You claim to be a Macedonian from the country of Macedonia and that you carry on the Macedonian tradition...
So:
You must speak Greek.
You must write Greek.
You must have a Greek name.
If you match these requirements you are a true Greek, and I am very happy about that.
Otherwise, if for example you cannot read an ancient Macedonian enscription (if it's "all Greek to you"), you are free to convince yourself that Alexander the Great is part of your nation's history.

PS: F*ck racists, nationalists and all those idiots

ummmmmm olymipakos,

in recent times i have laid to rest the history of alexander. not because i fel that he is macedonian. but because the fact that it was history. it is something that should be put away. i have made soo many greek friends now and we seem to never bring up the issue.

i will not respond to u on the issue of alexander the great KING OF MACEDONIA. but i will talk to you about the issue of no macedonia??

you claim that there is no macedonia?? you claim that the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA is in fact yugoslav??? you claim that macedonians have to know greek?? well mate i can tell you one thing. the only greek thing i know is moussaka and thats been said to be turkish so i dont know if i know greek. i am a macedonian i was born in australia but i have been back to my beloved country many times before and i can tell you that it is a country with a heart, a country with ambition. we are not yugoslavs, we are macedonians and thats how we like to be known MACEDONIA. or in my language REPUBLIKA MAKEDONIJA!!!

lastly might i remind you that in the atlases dating back centuries ago there was no country called greece, but there was a country called macedonia!!! hmmm pretty strange isnt it??? its pretty strange that alexander, KIRIL and METODIJA (god knows what they call the fathers of the cyrillic language in greek) were all born in that country of MACEDONIA. so is it the MACEDONIANS speaking GREEK or is it VICE VERSA... ask yourself that question!!! also ask yourself the question IF MACEDONIA WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN GREECE AND HAD ALL ITS COUNTRY TOGETHERBEFORE THE 1913 SPLIT WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO BE A GREEK AND WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE A MACEDONIAN??

oh and BTW hellas (zagorakis) the SG forumer your apology is accepted as for this latest attack by this PRO GREEK (whatever) if he tries to apologise i dont think i will be that easy on him!!!

This thread=:rolleyes:

oh and olympiakos have u ever heard of goce delcev??? he was born in kukus (greek territory now, in the middle of the area you greeks own now). he is actually considered to be bigger than alexander in macedonas history. i dont know why u dont claim him as a greek revolutionist. instead he faught for the macedonians!!! you dont even know who he is!!! do you??

lastly because i cant be fkd talking to ppl like you,

i have been back to macedonia, and i have been to macedonia that now is (greek owned). i was really amazed to see most of the ppl i met in the region spoke macedonian. it was fantastic. i didnt hear a single greek word it was crazy!!! areas that you may know as MELITI, FLORINA, KASTORIJA. i have relitives from there and they all spoke macedonian too me. i was even invited to a wedding where i heard a song sung in macedonians getting repeated 100 times over saying MACEDONIANDS FROM ALL PARTS WE ARE STILL UNITED, EVENTHOUGH WE ARE VIRTUALLY SPLIT OUR HEARTS BELONG TOGETHER. WE ONLY HAVE ONE MOTHER NATION AND THATS MACEDONIA. this was sung in macedonian and not in GREEK!!!

anyways this thread i opened up to help me about a team in a soccer match not macedonian and greek history so i thank you all for your help but i dont think i will visit this forum anymore as of this previous attack!!!

whether macedonia are in or not, they are bound to be crap.
andorra 1-0 macedonia :rofl: :rofl:

Ok, we are out of subject here, plus this is a soccer forum for gods sake. But this is an interesting subject, one I never talked about, so ill say a few things before making my peace.

Personaly, I would be realy happy if the people of the republic of makedonia made a genuine attempt, to find their macedonian ancestry. The balkans, regardless of who is greek, yougoslav, polish etc, have always futures that are bound together. Personaly I always believed that the best future of the balkans could come through a federation.

In fact, such an attempt by the "new" macedonians whould bring them closer to the greeks, since the ancient macedonians were part of that culture. I hoped that this will lead them closer to the greek ideals and ideas, aristotle, plato etc. But after the collapse of the yugoslav socialist federation, the discovery of an ethnic identity on the macedonians did not lead them unfortunately to the above. Instead of bringing the greek culture in, for some reason maybe it was easier, to "slavise" the ancient macedonian culture.

Yes, the teritory that you guys now live was part of macedonia. Yes, that gives you the right to call yourselfs macedonians.
But what you cant do is alter the macedonian culture and "slavise" it. Not that there is something wrong with slavs, but because simply, the macedonians were culturaly greek. And the mistake you do here, is see this ethnicaly. See, the ancient greeks were not one unified nation. They were a loose confederation. What unified them, was their past, and their cultural links. What was their past? Their ancestry, to the heraclidietes. (the decentants of hercules). Their cultural links? They spoke the same language, hade the same customs, believed to the same gods etc. To see this, just look at the person who made alexander. Aristotle. Do they teach you all these? do they teach you about Aristotle, about the 12 gods of olympus and the role of religion in the life of those people etc?
No, because those parts are considered "greek culture."

In other words, what Im saying is, it is wrong to try to fit the ancient macedonians to the modern macedonian culture. You guys were culturaly mixed with slavs, turks, etc. Just as modern greeks were mixed with several othr ethicities too. To give you a paralel example, it would be wrong if the modern greeks said that the ancient greeks shared the exact same culture. Because we dont. We have changed. That does not mean though, that we cant learn from them, from their beutiful ideas.

I hope you didnt reach the conlcusion that what Im saying is I want macedonia and alexander for myself (and the modern greeks) because its not what Im saying.

hellas mate u see the difference between you and olymp is simple u havent said there is no macedonia. in fact you called it the republic of macedonia. thank you very much!!!

it is greeks like you i love to reason with!!!

Macedonia is a Greek word and means the land of long humans.
MACE-DON-IA - MAKE-ÄON-IA=MHKOÓ-ÏÍ-ÃÁIA=ÃH TÙN ÕØHËÙN ONTÙN
Mace=makra, mikos
don=ton on, onton
ia=gi, gaia


If we had neighbours that spoke English they would say their country
Longmanland or something similar, condensing the phrase -Land of long Humans-

So i'm asking, how you translate in your language in one word the phrase:
the Land of long humans?

As i say before, condensed the phrase and we have the Greek word Macedonia, in
English Longmanland or something like this but never the word Macedonia,
in French: -Terre de longs humains- can you condense this phrase with the word Macedonia? NO!!!!,
in Italian: -Terra degli esseri umani lunghi- can you condense this phrase with the word Macedonia? NO!!!!,
in Spanish: -Tierra de seres humanos largos- can you condense this phrase with the word Macedonia? NO!!!!
I'm sorry, but i do not know any Slavjki dialect in order to
write for you the phrase: -Land of long humans- in your language.

But you can write here this phrase in your language, and if you
condense it with the word Macedonia, we must forget our Hellenic language.

I am sure that in your Slavjki dialect the word for the
phrase: -Land of long Humans- there is no way to be the word Macedonia.

Therefore, try to find in your language a word for this phrase and leave
the Greek word MACEDONIA for Greece.

If you had the elementary knowledge of Greek language you would
see how simple is the solution of these problems.

My advice for you:
Learn Greek, learn Ancient Hellenic and you'll find many answers, even for each button
of your computer keyboard.

Take an example:
The Greek Alphabet A-omega-s
The Latin Alphabet A-w-z
Now, look carefully:
W= double U,
but the shape of the letter W tell us to spell it: double V (VV).
Now write the letter W (double U) with the correct shape (UU) and you've got the Greek letter omega!!!!!!

Delete= Dielite, Dialio, dialyto

The Greek and the Latin Alphabet was written from the same hand.
I remind you LEARN GREEK and you'll learn the secrets from all the
european languages and also the true computer language.
But the best of all is that you'll start to learn what is the meaning
of the ANO-THROSKO=ANTHROPOS=HUMAN

hasta la vista - good bye - ante geia!!!!!!!!!

Olympiakos and Che Forever.
hasta la victoria siempre

THRYLE DIPLO MES'TO MONACO

Alexander = Alexandros: complex Greek word from
Alexo + Antros, this means: Invulnerable Man.

Philip = Philippos: complex Greek word from Philos + ippos,
this means: friend of horses.

Aristotle = Aristotelis: complex Greek word from Aristos +
Teleios, this means: Most excellent Perfect man.

Florina in Latin Florinus = complex Greek word from
Flori (Florion) + Gi (Gaia), this means: land of golden currencies.

Kastoria: complex Greek word from Kastor (Kastoras) + Gi
(Gaia), this means: land of beavers.

Istamboul (Istanbul): complex Greek word from Eis + Tin + Poli,
this means: To the City, and this because Constantinople was
the City of Cities.
Constantinople = Konstantinoupoli: complex Greek word from
Konstantinos + Poli, this means: the City of Konstantinos.

Can you saw any relation between all of these names with your
language? Of course NOT !!!

I see you're supporter of Juventus,
go then and make crazy the Italians also.
Tell to them: Juve is a club from F.Y.R.O.M.

Consequently my friend, your F.Y.R.O.M. means:
- Fake Yougoslave Republic of Macedonia - .

I'll be back soon...
Subject ???
Of course Kyrillos and Methodios

hasta la vista - good bye - ante geia!!!!!!!!!

Olympiakos and Che Forever.
hasta la victoria siempre

THRYLE DIPLO MES'TO MONACO

wow, it became to definitely not ISS/WE/PES thread
moved to soccer forum

ive had enough of this thread, it had lost its purpose a couple days agao. therefore i am going to ask a moderator to CLOSE THE THREAD plz!!!

Originally posted by djperthglory
ive had enough of this thread, it had lost its purpose a couple days agao. therefore i am going to ask a moderator to CLOSE THE THREAD plz!!!


YOU GOT OWNED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


pfff......thieves.....pffff

Wow, if there was one thread that could give headaches... :|