I do - big time. I'm running a PII-450 with 96 megs of ram, and NHL2K works great on my machine and with my voodoo2. Yet, FIFAK runs unsmoothly in all resolutions. Any hints or helps out there?? http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/confused.gif

[This message has been edited by mterry16 (edited 01-13-2000).]

How many of you guys have graphic-problems when playing F2K with a Voodoo2 card ? http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/confused.gif

FIFA2K doesn't run smooth on my CreativeLabs Voodoo2 card, but I thought this had to do with the fact that I have a rather old computer (P166MMX, 64MB). However, FIFA99 ran silky smooth. OK, but I think I can cope with this.

BUT WHAT IS REALLY ANNOYING IS THE DAMN TEXTURES PROBLEM!!!!! The textures on the players, numbers and stadium look like crap!!!! I've edited several jerseys using the 128 colour technique, paying great attention to detail, but I end up staring at a bunch of pixels on the screen. When I see some screenshots on this site, it gets to my nerves!!!!. I've tried the tweak utilities, the tutorial from Stefan, but to no avail. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/frown.gif

I've posted several times hoping somebody with a CreativeLabs Voodoo2 8MB will reply telling me it's possible to address this issue, and eventually giving me the solution. So I beg you once more:

IS THERE ANYBODY OUT WITH A CREATIVE VOODOO2 8MB WHO HASN'T GOT THAT PROBLEM WITH TEXTURES????? http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/mad.gif

Thanks in advance

Hello Mterry16,

could you try one thing I have in mind?
I've done this also with F99 and NFSIII.

Could you copy voodoo2z.dll from your NHL2K folder into the "trash" folder of F2K?

I had problems with the Voodoo2 card before and when I used the dll-files of Need For Speed III instead of the original that came with Fifa 99, it worked.

If it works mail me the dll-files of NHL2K.
Thanks

Mterry16,

please reply.

Or others that have another game of EA sports 2000 edition: Please try the above and give info!!

Sorry for the late reply guys.

Thanks for the advice, but it didn't really work. I still have the same slow-downs (especially when the ball is in the air), and the same choppyness that I did before I tried the NHL file. FIFA's playable as it is, but it only really works in 640x480. I'm at a loss for explanation, and I'm really disappointed.

Well I own a Creative Voodoo 2 as well and I have no problems at all, so the only thing I can imagine you can do is to reinstall Directx. I have Directx 7.0 installed with the Dx 7.0 beta voodoo 2 reference drivers.

Well Mterry16 thanks for trying.

I am a bit disapointed. Has anyone another tip or solution?

I installed DirectX 7 and the Voodoo2 drivers for it, but still no change.

Is there still a problem if you are using two Voodoo 2 cards(SLI) or is this fine? I played a demo from PC Zone mag and it looked ****! or is that just because it was a demo? A friend of mine has a Voodoo 3 2000 and it looked great on that.

Could someone please answer?

Mterry16: your problem is in your Video card, not enough power. One V2 is not enough to run FIFA 2000 at high resolution.

Wormy: I have SLI (Creative Labs) which makes FIFA 2000 run smooth as silk on my PII-333, 128Mb, DX7 and latest reference drivers.

3dfx..voodoo 2 fix...IT WORKS... first, go to Start -> Run and type in: regedit
Now, you're in the Windows-Registry. Go to HKEY_USERS -> .DEFAULT -> Software -> Electronic Arts -> 3d Data -> Card2
Here you have the edit the content of GROUP from 3dfx to D3D and the content of MODULE from voodoo2 to dx!
Then just close the window and go to your FIFA 2000-folder. Open the file 3dSetup\3dSetup.ini and check
if there's the following line:

CARD_3Dfx Voodoo2 /R:640x480 /R:800x600 /I
If YES, everything is okay! If NOT, you have to correct the line into the model above.
Now, start the 3d Setup and choose your Voodoo2-card and 800x600-resolution! Now, it's showtime!
*Warning* If you've black grass after these solution - don't panic! Just install the actual drivers of your card and everything is okay!
Have fun with the "new" game
written by Stefan Münstedt feat. Gunter Kresin............................................ PS:> I have set up the registry as above and it really does enhance the game, smooth and as it should be...EA should have sorted all this out before they released the game...REMEMBER that you can only run the game in 800x600 with Voodoo 2 cards...
Download: up-to-date drivers for Diamond Monster II/all voodoo cards...here is the new replay site Url.....still have 3 vacant places to fill up for the replay league...
Hunter

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Rink/4761/index.htm...............Hunter

To Hunnter:

I've tried what this tutorial said and it didn't work on my Creative Voodoo2 card. Maybe it works only for Diamond Monster's? Anyone with a Creative has tried this? I got the game to work, but it was choppier than before, the grass got black, rain became blue squares over the pitch, textures looked lo-res as before but this time you could notice the big pixels (no antialiasing).
What does it mean 'get the actual drivers for your card'? I have the latest drivers from Creative but it doesn't work.

Any ideas? This is really frustrating!!! :-(

Well, it should work on all voodoo 2's, in regard to the graphics going bad on you, did you run the 3d setup file again before you run the game? The latest drivers for Voodoo 2 cards can be found.. http://www.3dfx.com/
do you have the latest Directx7 drivers too?
remember that it is running on D3D and not glide drivers, even tho it uses the voodoo card...also i would assume that the dx option in the registry means Directx..
apart from that all i can suggest is to recheck the registry to make sure that you edited it correctly, it works 100% with the
Diamond Monster V 2's....at 800x600 res...
so it should be ok with the Creative Cards..
yes...it is frustrating for all concerned, a
real pain in the arse...

Check out and see if the file dx6z.dll is in the Fifa2000/Thrash directory, it needs this to work in conjunction with the reg setup...

Yes i have also a voodoo2 card and i tried this tutorial. but when i run the game the entire playing game is white you can only see the player shadows. i say that we write ea and tell them to fix the choppyness and the textures of the jerseyeys! anyone else with me??>?

I have a Diamond Monster Fusion 3D card and even though I have tried that german tutorial soluction I still have the same problems........by the way some people say to me that my card has voodoo 2 technology and others say to me that it has voodoo banshee technology, I´d really like to know this, can someone help me? ´cause I´d like to download its updated drives...
http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/smile.gif

You know.......This has nothing to do with the Voodoo 2 card but with my Creative Riva TNT 2 M64 card.....I cannot run the game a t 800x600 resolution or higher only t 640x480....This is really frustrating and I just want to know if anyone out there can help as I am now seriously peed off.....PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE!

after checking out the card setups in the registry, i cant seem to find any reference to any Creative video cards!!!!????...all you guys can do is to try to find out what chipsets these cards use and then take it from there, if the cards wont work with the
Diamond Monster Voodoo2 setup, try the Banshee setup and see how it works out...also
TNT cards could need the latest Detonator Drivers that can be found at http://www.nvidia.com/....the Viper V550 card had the "White" screen display, but after installing the Latest Detonator drivers this fixed up that detail...then the reg edit fixed up the voodoo 2 worries...if you check out the Video card setups in the registry ,the Electronic arts/3D Data section, you will notice that most of the cards have the same configuration, its a matter of trying out diffent setups for different cards by the looks of things..and that is really a pain in the arse.......

I have a Diamond Monster 3dII (voodoo2) and the textures in the game look flat and ugly, especially player numbers, kits and faces.
Framerate is also pretty low, but still playable. After I do everything that is written in the registry tutorial, the game runs using my primary video card which is an ATI Rage Pro card, and does look somewhat better, but runs slower. So actually this reg fix just tells the game not to use the 3dfx card but the primary video card. Some people just can't notice the difference between a 3dfx accelerated game and a non-3d accelerated game.
Fifa 2000 has a 3dfx compatibility problem, that needs to be fixed by EA-Sports, and that's it.

Good point Uval, now then, heres what happens at my end, i can run the game on my Viper V550 at 1024x780 res, no worries, but slightly flickery..its ok at 800x600..
now then when i set up my voodoo2 card at the same res, it dies a terrible black screen hang up death, i go back into the 3d setup in the fifa directory, reconfig the Voodoo 2 back to 800 x 600 res, and it plays like a dream, the voodoo's WON't run with the 3dfx glide drivers, but they will accept D3D by the looks of it....like you say EA should do something FAST to address this problem..remember Fifa99 wouldn't kick in with the SLI rig set up untill EA got there act together and released the patch...and still they are earning mega bucks from this game..

Just to add a bit more of information on the issue:

I've tried that tutorial step by step (re-running 3D setup) and I get even worse results than when using the default settings (see my previous post). I've tried every driver I could find (original Creative drivers bundled with the card, latest Creative drivers - March 99, 3dfx reference drivers for Dx6 - June 99, latest 3dfx reference beta drivers for DirectX 7.0) and I can't seem to fix it.

I tried FIFA2000 at a friend's, who owns a Voodoo3 3000. If you choose 1024x768, the textures look exactly the same as the Voodoo2 (= ****). However, if you switch to 800x600 you get the hi-res textures!.
It seems FIFA is managing textures the wrong way.

Another bit of info: If I run FIFA2000 on my old Matrox Mystique (on a P166MMX 64MB) using software rendering, the textures look hi-res and the game runs smoother than with the Voodoo2 (obviously, there are no effects or antialiasing).

mmm, one thing is clear, the game wont accept 3dfx "Glide" drivers, it all seems to hinge on your video card running on D3D, dont get me wrong, i get the D3d graphics on my system, but as i said before, the game runs very smoothly with the voodoo 2 card and all i did was follow the tutorial that i posted, it seems to be a prob with the creative cards, if you read the readme.txt file on the fifa 2000 cd, there is no reference to creative cards in the notes..so at this point in time i dont have a conclusive answer to that problem... its a real headache for some of you guys at the moment...if you go to this site, i posted three pics on the results page...you will see the sort of graphics i get on my system, altho the pics i posted have lost a little of there original quallity due to me adjusting the sizes ever so slightly, they still look ok.......http://trak.to/fprl....
you can enlarge the pics by just clicking on them

I just re-installed FIFA 2000 on my P2-333, 128 MB, V2-SLI (Creative Labs 24 Mb) w/3Dfx reference drivers and DX7.

The game runs great right out of the box, allowing me to select 640x480 or 800x600 resolution for V2 card.

Then I opened 3DSetup folder, opened 3DSetup.ini file and modified V2 line to look like this:

CARD_3Dfx Voodoo2 /R:640x480 /R:800x600 /R:1024x768 /I

Then I ran 3Dsetup.exe and select 1024x768 resolution for V2 video card.

Results: everything works just fine!!!

To Hunnter:

I've seen the screenshots on your page and yes, they look like they should. Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you that the solution spotted on the tutorial doesn't work. Sure it does (for your card, at least), but I can't make it work for mine.

The fact that a Voodoo3 gets similar results (i.e. ****py textures) at 1024x768 proves that 3Dfx mode is poorly managed/programmed (shame to EA Sports).

To ruger:
You say you can run FIFA2000 at 1024x768 on two Creative Voodoo2 12MB in SLI, and everything is OK. Does this include textures? Do they look hi-res? How do they look with a single card? Anyway you have enough horse-power to run it that way, but things are different for a single Voodoo2 8MB http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/frown.gif

I've e-mailed EA support but the only thing I got was an automatic reply instructing me to change the colour depth of the Windows desktop (?!?!?!?!). No further explanation.

One thing is clear. Next year I won't rush to buy FIFA2001 if I don't get to test it first http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/frown.gif(

to ruger:

If I understood you well, playing FIFA2000 on two Voodoo2 12MB 'SLIed' together gives you high framerates, but you still get lo-res textures? Do you think your 16MB texture memory (if I'm not mistaken) don't deserve anything better than those ****py textures? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

That textures problem is what I find quite hard to understand. I'm not talking framerates here. I assume I can't achieve high framerates with a P166MMX, though 'apparently' there's not a big difference between FIFA2000 and FIFA99, and the latter run perfect on the very same computer. OK, I can cope with some jerkiness from time to time.

You say upgrade. OK, I'll get a 'state of the art' Voodoo3 3000 and start to play FIFA2000 at 1024x768. What do you get? Those ****py textures AGAIN!! Lower resolution to 800x600 and then you get smooth play (given you have a fast processor) and hi-res textures. A bit strange, if you ask me.

Or try the opposite. Switch to software rendering on your old trusty P166MMX and watch those player wear hi-res kits (though not so nice as with the Voodoo2) and move around a lot smoother. ??!?!?

Don't get me wrong. I admit my system is quite old and too slow to get high framerates, but I think a Voodoo2 can give better graphics than FIFA2000 does.

I didn't mean to imply that the visual quality of the game is poor, or that textures are BAD, not at all......

I don't see any color/texture difference between 800x600 or 1024x768 in SLI or V3. I beleive V2 and V3 technology is limited to 256x256 textures and FIFA 2000 allows you to handle more sophisticated testures. From what I heard, FIFA 2000 looks the best in TNT2 ULTRA (at the expence of FRAMERATES).

To drmancini: I have only 2 options on my system, SLI or software. In SLI textures look the same in 800x600 and 1024x768. I can only compare to V3-3000 card that I have at work and to me it looks the same as my SLI at home. I know that FIFA 2000 looks better on TNT2, with 32 bit color and hi-res tuxtures, BUT you will sacrifice your framerates.

Let's get serious here for a moment. You're using a single V2 card w/8Mb on a STATE OF THE ART video game. The answer to your problem is obvious to me, as it should be to you too: UPGRADE!!! I just saw a generic TNT2 card w/32Mb for $99(US).

From my experience I can tell you THERE IS visual difference between FIFA2000 at 800x600 or 1024x768 on a Voodoo3 3000. I've seen this at a friend's, and definitely the textures at 800x600 look much better than in 1024x768. These differences can be seen very clearly looking at the numbers on the jerseys. While they look blurry at 1024x768 on the V3 (and V2 for the matter), they look sharp and detailed running FIFA2000 at 800x600 on the same V3. I have edited some jerseys for FIFA2000, and they look great at 800x600, but quite bad at 1024x768. It seems that FIFA2000 makes some sort of stretching on the textures when running at some resolutions. Jersey textures are 100x100 pixels, so it's far from the 256x256 limit. In fact they are smaller than FIFA99 textures, so my guess is the guys at EASports didn't manage textures for 3Dfx too well.

dear drmancini,
with the voodoo 3 2000, is the stadium covered by a black sheet when playing at night? Mine does. Do you have any solutions for this?

There something else I noticed:

At the beginning there isn't a spinning 3Dfx-sign, like other new 3Dfx games.
I think that that's also a sign that EA didn't make F2K compatible with Voodoo.

There something else I noticed:

At the beginning there isn't a spinning 3Dfx-sign, like other new 3Dfx games.
I think that that's also a sign that EA didn't make F2K compatible with Voodoo.

exactly right--->No 3dx logo-------> you must set the game up via d3d------> if you have to set it up thro editing the reg, well then thats the way it has to be...EA stuffed up really bad............

To Bowie:

I don't own a Voodoo3 myself. All I did was some testing at a friend's, who has a V3 3000 as I said. I couldn't see any problem with graphics playing at 800x600 or 1024x768, other than the famous texture issue.

To the rest:

Sure, there is no 3Dfx logo at the beggining, unlike FIFA99. But, does it mean FIFA2000 is running in Direct3D mode on the V2? Anyway, changing registry settings to use 'dx' instead of 'voodoo2' - I mean the whole process described in the tutorial by Stephan - doesn't work for me (see previous posts).

CRAP GAME!

We still have the V-problem,

Now it's EA-sports turn to make a statement or giving us (the players) the patch to solve this s**t!!!!!!!!

Is there a way to speed this up???
For example sending EA thousends of e-mail?

I tried to e-mail their support team but all I got was an automatic e-mail response telling me to change the desktop resolution and colour depth. http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/frown.gif

If you know of an e-mail address which is effectively read by someone at EA please give it to me, and I'll be glad to let them know this problem.

I have downloaded the latest driver for directx 7.0 of voodoo2 from www.3dfx.com and installed it with directx 7.0. The result? Well, the color seemed to be more "colorful" and the frame rate seemed to be a very, very very very very little bit faster.

I have tried changing the registery files (I have monster II), but it did not work very well. The only improvement was the logos on the jerseys. The frame rate was worse.

I'd recommend to try the latest voodoo2 driver if you want a little bit better game, instead of screwing up your computer with regedit.

I have downloaded the latest driver for directx 7.0 of voodoo2 (a complete full version not beta one)from www.3dfx.com and installed it with directx 7.0. The result? Well, the color seemed to be more "colorful" and the frame rate seemed to be a very, very very very very little bit faster.

I have tried changing the registery files (I have monster II), but it did not work very well. The only improvement was the logos on the jerseys. The frame rate was worse.

I'd recommend to try the latest voodoo2 driver if you want a little bit better game, instead of screwing up your computer with regedit.