So im in Sheffield City Centre with my mate this morning, i thought we had a lecture at 10 but infact it was 11 :( meaning we had an hour to kill.

We went round a few shops before finally entering GAME, we both looked at PES4 and typically blokish went "ah ts reght gud that int it" (bare in mind im from Yorkshire)

anyway, after saying this about a few games we came accross a stand that on the left was Football Manager 2005 with big pre-order labels on it, and on the right CM5 with big pre-order labels on it.

My mate quickly picked up CM5 and went, "cor, gonna be a reght game this mate, cant wait for it" - i was pretty amused, however:

I then picked up FM and turned it around showing him the "from the makers of the CM series" and also instructed him about it.

But much to my amazement: "No tom, ive read about it, its definatly the next one after CM0304, should be fantastic"

:kader: :kader: :kader:

I told him id beta tested for SI, yet still he refused to believe me :( :(

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I worry for SI, has anyone else heard anything like this.

TROD.

no idea if this should have been in this forum btw Ruud

TROD.

What is the world coming to :kader:

If he buys CM, steal the receipt and change it for him (H)

will do Sir Dave

TROD.

Well, here in Holland you can pre-order Cm5 at big shops, while when I ask them about Fm2005 they haven't heard of it.

Originally posted by TROD
bare in mind im from Yorkshire


(H)!

i think you actually SEARCH for threads created by me :kader:

so sad.... :p

TROD.

lots of my mates which used to play CM series they ain't know the exist of FM. i think if CM5 out, they certainly will go for it

I'm sure Eidos are doing everything they can to make people believe this - it's pretty much their only hope. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

ARGH

Can't any of you explain it to anyone who plays CM, and actually tell them about sigames.com and stuff? Shame to hear a few people let their friends no nothing about the split :(

It's not so bad for SI if you realise that CM5 is going to suck, people are going to buy it, get disgusted and arent even going to look at the CM series again (if CM5 happens to be good, then it's another story but seriously, do you believe it's going to be a great game?). And Tom, no offence but looks like your friend in living in la-la land. The "From the makers of CM" is pretty obvious isnt it? Unless he didnt know that SI made the CM series before.

If he's tom's friend, of course he's living in la-la land (H):(

Tom :ewan: :chick:

I most certainly won't fall for the bait-and-switch tactic that Eidos is using for CM5, mainly because I live Stateside and the only choice for me will be Football/Worldwide Soccer Manager. Even if I lived in England, Holland, or even Malaysia, I know that FM/WSM is from the same people [Sports Interactive] that developed CM before the SI/Eidos "divorce". Now, go out and tell your friends, "CM5 will be sh*t. Buy FM/WSM instead."

Originally posted by scoham
ARGH

Can't any of you explain it to anyone who plays CM, and actually tell them about sigames.com and stuff? Shame to hear a few people let their friends no nothing about the split :( We do try, but some of the people we encounter are just not smart enough to apprehend the situation.

Originally posted by Stotty
If he's tom's friend, of course he's living in la-la land (H):(

Tom :ewan: :chick:

no nick, if hes from ROTHERHAM, get it right.

Anyway he knows that SI made all the others, but he still thinks CM is CM.

TROD.

I was afraid of this from the minute it was announced. This is real abuse of a name.

I'm actually pretty cool with it, it means both should sell in rougly equal proportions so I can be safe in the knowledge that whichever I like better will continue to be made.

omg, my mate went up to me today and went,

"tom, ive pre-ordered CM"
"but i told you not to! Honestly matt its not the proper version, look (shows boxes again)............... ive played the demo i KNOW its the proper CM! Trust me!"
"Nah tom, CM is CM"

what a wanker

TROD.

Why don't you let him play the demos? He'll know right away...

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he wont download them.

TROD.

who gives a feck. It's his money. He will regret buying this game sooner or later (H)

Why don't you let him come to the forums. We'll teach him what's good and what's bad. :p

lol! that'd be funny, "go and post on the CM forum at Soccergaming.tv, you'll soon see what people think" lol

TROD.

CM5 will be as good as FM though, I reckon. It will probably appeal to him more actually as I'm sure Eidos will do what they've always been trying to do and make it more mainstream and 'cool' which inexperienced CM players would like.

But for more Mainstream and 'cool' stuff, people already got TCM. With the "wonderful" Football Fusion aswell. In my view, if Eidos try such a thing, they'll be screwed up because EA will outsell them.

Plus lately, CM is not so hard to succeed anymore. I'm still using the same 2 tactics for almost 8 months and it still wasnt cracked (i rotate them, and i tweak them sometimes during games/before games, but still...).

Anyway, Eidos better come with something almost bug-free. The game being good or not.

Originally posted by Grunger
But for more Mainstream and 'cool' stuff, people already got TCM. With the "wonderful" Football Fusion aswell. In my view, if Eidos try such a thing, they'll be screwed up because EA will outsell them.

Plus lately, CM is not so hard to succeed anymore. I'm still using the same 2 tactics for almost 8 months and it still wasnt cracked (i rotate them, and i tweak them sometimes during games/before games, but still...).

Anyway, Eidos better come with something almost bug-free. The game being good or not. That's the main worry. Being a new studio, and with Eidos's reputation for rushing people, this game could be full of bugs. It had better not be, or else they might aswell not bother making another.

As for TCM, I think everyone knows how inferior it is.

during an IT session i pursuaded my mate to cancel his pre-order for CM and get FM!.... Finally! lol

TROD.

"This just in: Sanity reaches Yorkshire."

:crazyboy:

:o:o.......:eek:.....:).......:D:D......(H)....... :Bow:

I love a happy ending

Celebrate good times, c'mon, LETS CELEBRATE! :jacko:

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
CM5 will be as good as FM though, I reckon. It will probably appeal to him more actually as I'm sure Eidos will do what they've always been trying to do and make it more mainstream and 'cool' which inexperienced CM players would like.

I completely disagree. Making an SMG is a very difficult thing and even games that have been around 10 years (FM) and 20 years (SAAP) aren't 'perfect'. Some are better than others though...

I would expect it to be somewhere in the range of the first English TCM, instead in CM style with none of the fancy graphics. The user interface for CM looks downright ugly from what I can gather in the screenshot. (FM's sort of does too - but its functional isn't it?) TCM's the prettiest interface of the bunch

'Shock Shock Horror Horror' - Gayest thread name ever.

seriously ben, why do you even post sometimes

TROD.

My vote was for "most heterosexual thread name ever" but that was just me...

Originally posted by shokz
'Shock Shock Horror Horror' - Gayest thread name ever. Gayest post ever.

gayest effort to pick a fight ever (H) ;)

nah actualy i think its a prety darn good effert :mrpimp:

Originally posted by mixafendis
gayest effort to pick a fight ever (H) ;)

nah actualy i think its a prety darn good effert :mrpimp: Actually I just wanted my 7000th post ;)

Actually, for a CM Forum post it's the most interesting thing that's come about so far

MY THREAD! :D or his post :( ?

TROD.

so did yer mate **** Eidos off and get his copy of FM then?

yes, yes he did.

TROD.

*lost* :confused:

Just been on play.com says it aint comin out till 4th feb 05!!!

Thats pathetic, i aint waitin that long, i'm gettin FM05

As if you must wait on a game like this. It wouldn't surprise me if it won't come out at all.

It will come out - too much money at stake !!! Eidos doesn't want to look silly for losing the old CM developers but I feel that they are already looking silly.