View Full Version : Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith


Fernandez
05-11-2004, 11:27:PM
Has anyone watched the trailer yet?

Sir Calumn
05-11-2004, 11:28:PM
There's gonna be the world preview of the full length theatrical trailer of Return of the Sith at a film festival thing I'm going too tommorow............. not that I even like Star Wars much. The sad thing is, there are predicted to be like several thousand extra people attending just to see this trailer :(

Fernandez
05-11-2004, 11:31:PM
After watching the trailer, I can't wait for the movie to come out...

Virgo
05-11-2004, 11:31:PM
Originally posted by CalumnCFC
not that I even like Star Wars much. The sad thing is, there are predicted to be like several thousand extra people attending just to see this trailer :(

that's just so irrational considering the pile of crap episode I and II are.

manutd4eva
05-11-2004, 11:51:PM
Star Wars is just a pile of horse****.

Ubik Valis
06-11-2004, 12:01:AM
This is the episode where Anakin turns into Darth, right?


Sorry, should have written SPOILERS above, for all the nerds. :crazyboy: (H)

Sir Calumn
06-11-2004, 12:21:AM
It's the film which basically has everything in it not covered by the other two prequels, and as they has pretty much nothing in them, this'd better have a hell of alot.

Virgo
06-11-2004, 12:25:AM
Hayden Christensen is a fag

can't think of him as a good Darth Vader.. :(

Ubik Valis
06-11-2004, 12:27:AM
As if Darth Vader himself is any more heterosexual :X :(

Sir Calumn
06-11-2004, 12:29:AM
No-one over 12 should watch Star Wars films anyway, they're great at that age but after it they really start to suck :(

Virgo
06-11-2004, 12:33:AM
episode 4, 5 and 6 are still amazing and I've seen them I'd say close to one hundred times each.

The new ones just suck tho :(

I hope Jar Jar Binks gets ran over by a space ship in this one. That would make my day (H)

Sir Calumn
06-11-2004, 12:36:AM
"Mesa called Jar Jar Binks" What the hell were they thinking? :|

Hristos
06-11-2004, 01:52:AM
Originally posted by CalumnCFC
"Mesa called Jar Jar Binks" What the hell were they thinking? :|
I highlighted the key word in your sentence. In this case it's key because it was missing from the whole process of creating Jar Jar.

And it's bad enough he was in the first movie... couldn't they just erase him from the 2nd one and pretend he was never there in the first place?

Nimreitz
06-11-2004, 02:34:AM
Originally posted by Dragan T
This is the episode where Anakin turns into Darth, right?


Sorry, should have written SPOILERS above, for all the nerds. :crazyboy: (H)

Don't worry Dragan, if the Star Wars nerds of today are anything like back when I was one, they know the story better than the pope knows the bible.

Unfortunately the first two were crap, but I thought Lucas left out a TON that should have been in Episode II and pushed it to Episode III. Because of that fact I think that this movie will be dark, exciting, and just plain crazy. Hopefully his kids have grown up now so he doesn't have to put crap like Jar-Jar Binks and a 5 year old Anakin Skywalker in this one. I'm hoping Lucas makes a ****in cool movie, because it definitely has the potential, but after the last two I don't know if he will.

Vagegast
06-11-2004, 03:00:AM
George Lucas deserves to die.

Ubik Valis
06-11-2004, 03:05:AM
Originally posted by Nimreitz
Don't worry Dragan, if the Star Wars nerds of today are anything like back when I was one, they know the story better than the pope knows the bible.



:(

Yeah, I remember when Episode II was coming out, there were a bunch of nerds CAMPING outside the entrance to "Imperial" (biggest movie-theatre in the Nordic countries (H))...... :|

If I see them in time for Episode III I'll yell something like: "JarJar Binks had yo mommas!" (H)

ishan1990
06-11-2004, 04:31:AM
this movie better have some more yoda action...

Hakeem
06-11-2004, 05:33:AM
like Yoda's fight in Episode 2, I did not :(

Tom
06-11-2004, 06:12:AM
Star Wars Rules.

TROD.

Ubik Valis
06-11-2004, 07:29:AM
Originally posted by Hakeem
like Yoda's fight in Episode 2, I did not :(

As funny as it was to watch, seeing a billion years old wrinkly alien creature jumping around and fighting like he's on speed was just.. :|

P.S.: Jar Jar Binks > TROD


~D (H)

Virgo
06-11-2004, 07:42:AM
Originally posted by Hakeem
like Yoda's fight in Episode 2, I did not :(

agree, I do.

It was kinda funny the first time I see it but just felt like something put there just to please the teen audience.

leungtl
06-11-2004, 07:57:AM
Teaser Trailer Link:
http://www.worldofepic.net/ep3.mov

Hakeem
06-11-2004, 10:04:AM
Originally posted by Virgo
agree, I do.

It was kinda funny the first time I see it but just felt like something put there just to please the teen audience.


and you know what I hated the most about the whole Yoda fighting thing? the TV commercials. they started showing this commercial which started with a voice over about a new hero that had to fight for the good, and it had the Spiderman music and all, and suddenly, it cuts to the Star Wars music and there's this shot of Yoda with the lightsaber and the huge words over him "YO DA MAN!!!"

oh man, I hated that :f***: :kader:


Edit: I found it, and I still cant believe its real, it first aired during the World Series (in 2001).

http://theforce.net/episode2/newspics/yodaman01.jpg


:nape:

Internazionale
06-11-2004, 10:15:AM
Finally...I wanna see this movie next Summer. :p

Thelonious
06-11-2004, 10:35:AM
After that pile of **** that was Episode 1 , i didnt even bother seeing Ep II , probably wont bother with this either.

jani
06-11-2004, 11:12:AM
Star Wars is great :f***:

ishan1990
06-11-2004, 12:49:PM
misplaced modifiers!! (the sentence error that yoda does all the time) its funny because i just did a report on it...

and yeah, it was pretty funny to see yoda jump around like a maniac.
at the theater some guys were yelling out yodaman at the beggining of the fight. it was pretty retarded.

$teauA
06-11-2004, 01:44:PM
Star Wars is the biggest piece of s*it ever created by man.

Stotty
06-11-2004, 04:56:PM
go find some cherries n shut up:mrpimp:

Glorious
06-11-2004, 05:19:PM
Originally posted by leungtl
Teaser Trailer Link:
http://www.worldofepic.net/ep3.mov

finally someone with the link :p (H)

Ubik Valis
06-11-2004, 07:02:PM
Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
Camping out for tickets . . . haha.

I got mine in advance. :(


Haha....loser. :| (H)


Loooooooo-hooooooooooo-ze-heeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr!!!! :(

zlojack
07-11-2004, 01:18:AM
Looks kind of cool.....from the trailer...although that doesn't mean much.
I grew up with Star Wars. When it came out I was 4.....so just imagine...I had all of the action figures.....

I still watch the movies despite the JarJar fiasco and the bad acting by Anakin in Episode 2........

Tom
07-11-2004, 02:09:AM
Originally posted by Dragan T

P.S.: Jar Jar Binks > TROD


Star Wars > Jar Jar Binks > TROD

TROD.

ishan1990
07-11-2004, 06:56:AM
so much for self confidence and self esteem

x4dixont
07-11-2004, 05:52:PM
episode 1 is by far the best ever, darth maul is quality

Ubik Valis
07-11-2004, 06:50:PM
The way the title for this thread is written makes it look like the title of the movie is "Revenge of the Sith Teaser" :(

Lean
08-11-2004, 01:39:AM
I like Star Wars. Cant wait for the 3rd. I've seen some interviews from Lucas on TV and he's saying it's going to be a dark movie and stuff. Hopefully not something childish like Episode I.

Hakeem
08-11-2004, 03:59:AM
yep. this is going to be darker. they already got a PG-13 rating (unlike Episode 1 and 2 which were rated PG).

Lucas said in the Empire of Dreams documentary (that comes with the trilogy's DVD) that he always planned to make Episode 1 a children's movie, and Episode 2 a romantic movie, and so he made them that way.

I still think it was mistake :(

Virgo
08-11-2004, 04:28:AM
wonder if he always predicted to make them utter crap movies as well.

ngyc
10-11-2004, 12:47:AM
is there other link to this trailer? the above 1 is not working

Help?
10-11-2004, 04:13:AM
I personally like Star Wars, don't know why, it may sound childish and all, but still looks pretty cool. Anyways can't wait till it comes out, this movie will be very very dark for sure. And those americans that love happy, merry endings are not going to get it. They got it in Episode 6. This movie will be the darkest with the darkest of endings. The main hero turning bad and everything.


Anyways talking about Star Wars, a couple of days ago i downloaded Star Wars Episode 1 russian translated comedian version. In russia there is a guy that takes popular hollywood movies and makes a funny translation for it, i gotta love that :D . Unlucky you guys that don't know russian. The guy gave the Imperor the face of Bin Laden in the movie :D :crazyboy: .

Tom
10-11-2004, 08:00:PM
should be a great film, apparently it is going to be darker and more sinister from those who have seen the trailer, i love star wars (mind you eps. 1 and 2 were crap). Cant wait to see Anakin's change into Darth.

TROD.

leungtl
10-11-2004, 08:22:PM
Originally posted by ngyc
is there other link to this trailer? the above 1 is not working

http://www.aol.com/starwars/trailer/index.adp

gian
11-11-2004, 02:24:AM
i preety lucked start wars. I really can't wait to c how Anakin turns into Vader.

They said that this one will have the most battles.

Callan
12-11-2004, 04:45:PM
The original 3 Star Wars were much better than the new ones. Personally I thought the new episode 2 was better than the first one... which in my opinion was pretty poor, but I don't think this new one will be any good... The trailer doesn't look good IMO.

I will still watch it because Star Wars is great, the original 3 anyway, the new ones are just poor.

Huroo!

Glorious
12-11-2004, 06:33:PM
Originally posted by Fernandez
Has anyone watched the trailer yet?

yes and it rocks!

ngyc
12-11-2004, 08:59:PM
but may 19, 2005 .............. long time to go :(

kickin_kyle
13-11-2004, 06:33:AM
Originally posted by Vagegast
George Lucas deserves to die.

:|

why? he has made a major impact on the way films are made. in 1975 he founded Industrial Light and Magic which created effects that were never seen before. he founded another company called Sprocket Systems to edit and mix Star Wars and later becomes known as Skywalker Sound. Lucas also revloutionized movie theaters with the THX System which was created to maintain the highest quality standards in motion picture viewing. the guy has an educational foundation too. i dont see why he deserves to die.

i also remember seeing something on tv that said he invented a camera that you could move around without the picture shaking all over the place.

Hakeem
13-11-2004, 06:54:AM
yeah, he did a lot of good stuff but for all that stuff he's been ****************ing around with the fans for a long time.

he release the special editio trilogy and said that he'll never release the originals. **************** that

and of course, Im 99.5% sure he'll release the originals and make us spend the money again.



the guy is really a genius

ngyc
13-11-2004, 09:14:AM
light & magic, simply brilliant

pasion1
11-03-2005, 10:33:AM
God....I had to sit through a whole hour of the OC (horrible episode....and i usually like it) and damn CTV didnt show the Trailer cause of its "only Canadian" tv commercial law.

Anyone seen ...is it good? thoughts?

Hakeem
11-03-2005, 11:01:AM
I taped it. Im watching later :D

pasion1
11-03-2005, 10:46:PM
i just saw it (Joblo.com).........its really really good. :)

Hakeem
11-03-2005, 11:52:PM
I taped the wrong chanell!!! :f***: :p

joblo.com then...

Raikkonen
12-03-2005, 12:47:AM
Star Wars: Episode III - Final Trailer / Bit Torrent

ftp://obahamon@ftp.mi-pagina.cl/Star%20Wars%20Episod%20e%203%20-%20Revenge%20of%20the%20Sith%20Trailer%20%20with%2 0OC%20Intro%20%7BC_P%7D.avi[2].torrent

(just copy all to your browser)

enjoy :mrpimp:

(50mb, from a HDTV)

pasion1
14-03-2005, 03:28:AM
Why arnt there 1000 posts about the greatest series of all time coming to an end? Jesus christ....I literally CANT WAIT to see this. I cant stand the wait.

Also...on the Yoda topic. If you see the movies in chrono order....youll see that the way we think of Yoda is almost completely different.

We all thought we knew Yoda after watching the OT. Our image of him was this calm, wierd, funny old frog thing (wise too). But if you would have seen the new ones first (as ppl will be watching them in about 50-60 years from now when the original Star WArs generation leaves......our perseption of Yoda will be that he loves to fight..........its just a different character in a sense.

When they get to Ep 5 and 6....theyll just think that "oh....Yoda is just too old to kick ass anymore".

I know......seeing the Yoda I knew jump around like a bunny on crack was ....wierd. But not if you see it as if you never saw Yoda before in the older flicks (eps 5 and 6)

Annnyways.....Yeah Revenge (im hoping) will surpass Empire or atleast become #2.

I always thought new Hope wasnt THAT amazing...but it was really entertaining. Empire was priceless. Jedi was good but had its MANY flaws (Leia being asleep in every seen....Han just being there to spit out oneliners....Boba 's Death........the dialogue in the Forest seeming like a waste of time etc...)

Phantom was good...not great. I thought we were just "dropped" in the story with no introduction to who the hell these characters were.

Clones was awesome. And to tell you the truth.....the ppl who bashe Clones are becoming a dead race. The movie was classic Star Wars exitement. Great music. The scene where Anikan stands exactly where Luke stands in Tatoine was amazing. Gave me chills.
I just thought Dookoo looked like a bum....seriously. Letting his belly go like that....wierd.

The first hour isnt boring if you truly are interested in the story (as many ppl are).

The new one better be good cause the balance of the entire trilogy (if not the series) is riding on it.

Please Dont **** up George............please.

haha....my friend had a great joke about Phantom Menace. If you watch the DVD you can see at the end a shocking part where the producers watch the movie and rip George saying that theres no character development, the plot is all tangled up and the Special effects are over done.

I had heard a rumor that Phantom had like a 3.5 hour cut (all together) and was cut down to 2 hours. Can u imagine George at the editing room. "Cut Character Development, Cut the plot development, the emotional scenes, entertaining twist, understandable introduction, extra duel with MAul,.........KEEP JAR JAR!!!!....." :funny:

i laughed so hard at that joke. Still do.

PS> PLEASE KILL JAR JAR. It will be known as the biggest ovation in the history of Star Wars if Anikan cuts him in half and makes him eat his organs as the credits roll.

Hakeem
14-03-2005, 04:23:AM
I do hope to love Episode 3, but its like Im not excited to see it. in fact, I loved the teaser we had last year, but this new trailer did nothing for me :(

and I seriously hate the Queen Amidala character. just hate that character. to me, thats the only character that trashed the whole series. and kid Anakin too cause episode 1 was a kids movie from start to end with the fatal mistake to kill off Darth Maul who should haven been left alive and just kill him in episode 2 so Darth Vader would then emerge in episode 3.

and though I know all the Jedi's are going to die in this one, I really loved Liam Neeson's Qui-Gon Jinn and I would've like him to be on episode 2 and maybe get killed on that one. cause thats what we needed, more character development on the first one, so we would get attached, even loved Darth Maul (though he was kind of plain) and then in episode 2 the killing would start ending it all in episode 3.

ManU2000
15-03-2005, 05:11:AM
I might actually see this one. :$ Saw Episode 1 (it was ok), didn't bother with episode 2 (although I should probably watch it before seeing this one) but I want to see how Anakin turns to the dark side, sounds intriguing. I'll wait for Hak's review when it comes out first though. :p

Tom
15-03-2005, 05:14:AM
im with most people posting here, i honestly cannot wait to see this film. People always ask me what my favourite film is, and i always say Monty Python etc. But really the easily the films that have defined who i am are the Star Wars films, everything about them i love, the classic set up. I just think they are the epitome of perfection.

I for one liked Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, Lucas did use far too much special effects, he should have got ILM to make more models for him, but that aside, they are 2 fantastic films. I cannot wait for Revenge of the Sith, hopefully it wont rely on special effects, and will concentrate on the story :) :)

TROD.

Sir Calumn
15-03-2005, 05:19:AM
I reckon this film is going to be another let down.... I dont know why - I just can't see how he can fit so much into a film, which he has to totally reinvent anyway to stop it being as poor as 1 and 2, and make a good job of it. I will see it, but if it is good I will be pleasantly surprised.

Nimreitz
30-03-2005, 06:44:AM
Yoda fight scene wasn't stupid and I don't know what idiot said we now see him as someone who "loves to fight" but he's clearly retarded. Yoda fights only when necessary, namely when there's a grave threat to the universe that he must correct personally. If you want to look at it philosophically, he's a Vajrayana Buddhist defending the Dharma. There are only a few instances in which fighting is acceptable, and that's to defend the balance of the universe.

Oh, and if you understand the force like I (a former Star Wars RPG player for like a year straight every weekend, I know I know :() then you understand how he can do it. Or if you understand Vajrayana Buddhism you understand it.

Voltaic Borusse
30-03-2005, 07:02:AM
wonder if he always predicted to make them utter crap movies as well.

Yeah, really.

Episode III will be no different from I and II. Garbage dialogue with over-saturated special effects. I'm still going to be the loser that I am and watch it on opening day, though.

PaPaGeorGeo
30-03-2005, 08:09:AM
Im going in at 12:01

ngyc
30-03-2005, 09:14:AM
is there a episode 7,8,9? or this episode will be the last episode for star wars? i heard some rumors said lucas want to make episode 7,8,9 before the episode 1 been made. seems it just a rumors :confused:

Voltaic Borusse
30-03-2005, 09:55:AM
seems it just a rumors :confused:

Yes, that's all it is. Rumors.

If you feel like delving further on passed Episode 6: Return of the Jedi, read up on Star Wars' Expanded Universe series.

zul-aid
30-03-2005, 09:59:AM
The reason why episodes 5 and 6 are critically acclaimed and the rest 1-2,4. are seen as poor movies is because George Lucas directed them, Star Wars was always going to be a hit, it was really a trilogy about merchandising. The first movie was poor and when the production company relised that they made the decision that George wasnt going to be directing the next two. THX 1138's which was George's first hit movie and it wasnt all about his directing skill's rather the special effects which came from the people he hired from splashing cash on the best in the business to mates from Film school - they are the people who George should credit for his success.

George cannot direct for ****, he even tried to overtake Steven Spielberg on Indiania Jones series and was laughed off the set, they are still friends but really he has no direction.

In retrospect he is the film makers version of Rupert Murdoch, sees the potential market (merchandsing) and makes a hell of a lot of money.

I know George is directing this one as well, and I know it wont be perfect, but in the end i will buy the DVD box set of episodes 1-3, video games etc. - I just wish he had more common sense to let go of his "baby" and let professionals do his work.

Also the reason why Natalie Portman is a pain in Star Wars is because George Lucas is a "dirty old man" he very much likes the T & A in movies (perfect scene is when Anakin and Armadala are in the spaceship and receive the message from Obi Wan - I mean how cold can it be on a desert planet?).

Also I cannot remember the website but there is a list of mistakes/contradictions that George has done in this series (1-3) which stuffs up the next one (4-6).

gian
15-05-2005, 06:44:PM
Well i've seen all 5 and they were quite ok a bit childish for me now but I am sure most of us even those who thought it sucks will go to see the new episode or will wait for the dvd.

They say that this is the most violent and has the most action ever. I am really curious to see how he became Vader. (Vader is kewl with the whole breathing thing :D)

I will go in JUne 20 to watch it since i am having exams and i dun think it worths losing some precious hours for it.

kickin_kyle
15-05-2005, 07:02:PM
http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=113272&highlight=Star

Tom
15-05-2005, 07:30:PM
i cannot, cannot wait to see this film. The original triology are probably my favourite films ever, i can watch them over and over again.

Both Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones have grown on me, so i cant wait for Ep III. Expect a fully biased review on my blog.

TROD.

Hakeem
15-05-2005, 07:35:PM
are you going to a midnight show Trod?

I know we're having a screening at noon on the 18th (movie opens on the 19th @ 00.01) but I dont have passes so Im going at midnight most probably :D

Tom
15-05-2005, 07:38:PM
no im not mate, i cant find ANYONE free to go with at midnight, so ill probably go sometime on friday on my own :p

TROD.

Sir Calumn
15-05-2005, 07:57:PM
Initial reviews are pretty mediocre - the Times only gives it 2 stars. I'm going to see it with a bunch of mates on the Thursday afternoon, but to be honest I'm not expecting too much.

Tom
15-05-2005, 08:14:PM
The Times = poo

By the way UGC Sheffield are showing it 20 times on friday :D

TROD.

Sir Calumn
15-05-2005, 08:25:PM
UCI Norwich is showing it 42 times (H)

Norwich > Sheffield (H)

Tom
15-05-2005, 08:29:PM
Sheffield is clearly cooler than Norwich then :)

TROD.

fender
15-05-2005, 08:31:PM
I'm gonna catch it on Wednesday evening here, simply can't wait.

Something unrelated but the lovely Natalie Portman has gone bald for a role, really shows how much she cares for her craft that she's willing to make sacrifices.

gian
15-05-2005, 08:35:PM
was that topic on the 2nd page or wtf

Tom
15-05-2005, 08:35:PM
yeah she has, hold on ill find a pic..

http://img258.echo.cx/img258/2829/natbald0lq.jpg

I still think she doesnt look bad, shes got very distinguished facial features, so you can still tell its nat.

TROD.

Hakeem
15-05-2005, 08:41:PM
I've heard about the movie (V for Vendetta, looks awesome) but I didnt know she shaved for it. pretty great (Y)

Tom
15-05-2005, 08:44:PM
looks like a pretty good movie to me from what ive heard, whens it out in the UK?

TROD.

fender
15-05-2005, 10:14:PM
http://img26.echo.cx/img26/6518/cannesfilmfestival1pk.jpg

She still looks cute. :p

Tom
15-05-2005, 10:23:PM
somehow yeah :p not THAT sinead o'connor :chew:

TROD.

Hakeem
16-05-2005, 01:43:AM
Release Dates:
Country Date
UK 3 November 2005
USA 4 November 2005
Germany 10 November 2005
Netherlands 10 November 2005
France 16 November 2005
Australia 24 November 2005
Finland 2 December 2005
Bulgaria 9 December 2005
Belgium 21 December 2005
Czech Republic 22 December 2005

Virgo
16-05-2005, 03:33:AM
what the hell are you on about? it opens wednesday :ewan:

Vagegast
16-05-2005, 04:15:AM
http://img26.echo.cx/img26/6518/cannesfilmfestival1pk.jpg

She still looks cute. :p... for a chemo-patient.

Hakeem
16-05-2005, 04:18:AM
what the hell are you on about? it opens wednesday :ewan:
talkin' bout V for Vendetta :)

Tom
16-05-2005, 01:57:PM
... for a chemo-patient.

bit harsh.

TROD.

Fernandez
16-05-2005, 03:31:PM
she looks ugly to be honest with a bald head. sometimes, the hair creates the beauty

ngyc
17-05-2005, 05:18:AM
Release Dates:
Country Date
UK 3 November 2005
USA 4 November 2005
Germany 10 November 2005
Netherlands 10 November 2005
France 16 November 2005
Australia 24 November 2005
Finland 2 December 2005
Bulgaria 9 December 2005
Belgium 21 December 2005
Czech Republic 22 December 2005

what is these dates for? DVD release?

jefferson goh
17-05-2005, 07:25:AM
i am watching this movie on saturday!


HOOOOOOOOray!

ngyc
17-05-2005, 09:26:AM
me too :rockman:

PaPaGeorGeo
17-05-2005, 11:54:AM
i got a f*cked wednesday/thursday coming up, i got a driving lesson at 7 in the morning the school after that then field hockey practise from 8-9pm then star wars at 12:01 or 00:01 what ever you want to call it

Lean
17-05-2005, 01:53:PM
I'm going to watch EP III next week. I cant wait to watch this. I'm curious to see Anakin killing everyone (which will actually happen, as practically no-one is left for Last hope except for Obi-Wan and the Emperor).

Voltaic Borusse
17-05-2005, 04:06:PM
I don't know, a couple of my co-workers (they just happen to be off from work) are trying to drag me along to watch it this Thursday, but I probably won't go to due to my stupid work schedule.

Fernandez
18-05-2005, 02:11:PM
I gotten four tickets to Friday's showing for 3.50pm in Singapore. So I'd be there at 4.05pm. Looking forward to it while smuggling outside foods inside the cinema.

Tom
18-05-2005, 02:27:PM
going on Saturday with my friend, pity i cant go tomorrow :(

TROD.

yim87
18-05-2005, 03:51:PM
watching it on thursday, which is tommorow.. don't know whether should i be excited.. that general grevious droid looks kind of something new.. may like it.. a droid carrying lightsabreSSSS.. ooo..
II'm curious to see Anakin killing everyone (which will actually happen, as practically no-one is left for Last hope except for Obi-Wan and the Emperor).and yoda too.

EDIT: it's grievous apparently..

Fernandez
18-05-2005, 03:56:PM
I think I've seen General Grevious on the Clone Wars cartoons.

Lean
18-05-2005, 04:41:PM
watching it on thursday, which is tommorow.. don't know whether should i be excited.. that general grevious droid looks kind of something new.. may like it.. a droid carrying lightsabreSSSS.. ooo..
and yoda too.

EDIT: it's grievous apparently..

Yea, forgot about Yoda. He doesnt appear much on Last Hope. To tell you the truth, i dont think he shows up at all.

fender
18-05-2005, 05:14:PM
Saw the movie, i like it as expected its better than both Episode I and II. The action sequences are great too. Its the final piece of the jigsaw and you can finally see how the whole Star Wars story pans out. :jap:

barthez4
18-05-2005, 08:03:PM
Yea, forgot about Yoda. He doesnt appear much on Last Hope. To tell you the truth, i dont think he shows up at all.
Doesn't he train Luke?

Voltaic Borusse
18-05-2005, 08:11:PM
Doesn't he train Luke?

In ROTJ.

barthez4
19-05-2005, 03:32:AM
In ROTJ.
Oh yeah, you're right.

Btw, isn't it A New Hope, not Last Hope? Or is there a Star Wars book that we're talking about?

JFG_Lancer
19-05-2005, 04:35:AM
I'm going tonight at midnight :bouncy: :bouncy: I can't wait only 3 1/2 hours to go!!!

INFESTA
19-05-2005, 11:06:AM
On related news, Lucas gave an interview to portuguese television, in which he showed great interest in finishing those project with Spielberg (like Indy 4) as quickly as possible, so he can concentrate on directing his own movies.
I think that's bad news for everybody, right?

Virgo
19-05-2005, 12:35:PM
damn George Lucas directing more movies :(

Voltaic Borusse
19-05-2005, 12:41:PM
Oh yeah, you're right.

Btw, isn't it A New Hope, not Last Hope? Or is there a Star Wars book that we're talking about?

It's "A New Hope".

And I was wrong, it's ESB, not ROTJ. It's been a while since I've seen the original movies.

Hakeem
19-05-2005, 01:52:PM
well, I went to see it last night and Im dissapointed. I even think The Phantom Menace was a lot more fun and maybe a better overall movie.

General Grevious was sick (coughing) during the whole movie and there's no reason for it. I guess its something from the Clone Wars cartoon but still it sucked.

Count Doku dying in less that 3 minutes int the fight with Anakin.

Padme giving birth and the selecting the names: "ahh Luke,... ahh Leia" WTF woman, when did you come up with the names????
same for Lord Sidious (sp?) coming up with Vader's name jus like that.
and Lord Sidious face when Mace Windu makes him old during their fight was crap. the make up in the eyes area sucked (N)

and the biggest BS of all was Jimmy Smiths almost at the end when he gives R2D2 and C3PO to the guard and he says "wipe out their memory" WTF??? its like Lucas remembered at the last minute that the droids dont know anything about all this in the originals and he came up with the memory loss idea at the last minute of filming (N)

anyway, I have more but Ill come up with it later, but all and all I didnt lie it that much. it was way too easy tied up with the originals.

yim87
19-05-2005, 04:40:PM
and yoda saying that he will teach obiwan how to make contact with quigonn..zzz..if i'm not wrong quigonn wasn't even mentioned in the originals..

Voltaic Borusse
19-05-2005, 05:33:PM
Haha, great stuff Hakeem. Was the movie really that half-assed? More please. :D

Tom
19-05-2005, 06:33:PM
do a proper review for your blog Hakeem.

TROD.

Virgo
19-05-2005, 08:40:PM
It's getting good reviews from the critics so far. Gonna watch it in the weekend hopefully

Sir Calumn
19-05-2005, 08:57:PM
Just got back from seeing it and have mixed opinions.....

spoilers.....

I thought the opening scene was sh!te, I was really disappointed about 30 mins in, the Space Battle was rediculously overreliant on computer graphics and it was blatantly obvious, Christianson was pisspoor and Count Dooku's death was boring as hell. However, it improved greatly and ended up as not a bad film. I was really worried it was going to go all 'wookie heavy' which it didnt, and the links were not bad. I agree with all the complaints Hakeem had, however, and have to add a few aswell. General "I'll show them, by RUNNING AWAY! Ahahahahaha" Grevious was awful - he broke the golden rule of Jedi fighting - dont bring Jedi onto the bridge. Also, what's with the midgets? R2 and Yoda were so cool and placid in the originals, now they're vicious little buggers, infact, R2 is most certainly the hero of the opening scene. Also, they relied on Christianson to carry the film and he just isnt good enough, but on the plus side, C3PO is even more homosexual. No Jar Jar either. Crappest bit of all though was Darth Sidious talking to Rune Hako on the hologram, "dont worry, I'm sending my apprentice to....er... take care of you... ahahahaha" - no double meanings there. I love the though that went into the name Vader to, "you shall be Darth, er, um, Vader! Yes, that will do".

Anyway, I'll write a full review later.

Sir Calumn
19-05-2005, 09:03:PM
PS: Anyone notice how similar Darth Sidious is to Michael Howard?

Hyun
19-05-2005, 09:18:PM
people who went at midnight: FAGGOTS.

first off, it's a school night. second, the weekends are coming up. third, it's a test crazy part of the year. :ewan:


I haven't seen one Star Wars movie. I'm thinking about watching from the first sometime in the future... I'm so unAmerican. :fool:

Vagegast
19-05-2005, 10:00:PM
people who went at midnight: FAGGOTS.(H)

If anything, it's just sad. Plus, Star Wars is HUGELY overrated. George Lucas knows how to make money, but that's about it.

AhmedK
19-05-2005, 11:47:PM
I am going to see it tonight. Yeah, it is very overrated, nothing really amazing about it.Why am I going? I don;t know....why did I go see Titanic....8 times?

Voltaic Borusse
20-05-2005, 12:01:AM
I'm so unAmerican. :fool:

(H)!!

pasion1
20-05-2005, 12:08:AM
awesome movie.
They did 4-5 things wrong but 10,000 things right.

SPOILER!!!!!!

The "NOOOOOOO!!!!!" had the theatre laughing on the floor. omg....that was BAD!

But the shot of Obi just "standing" there...(before the fight....) made the movie.



http://www.joblo.com/reviews.php?mode=joblo_movies&id=1217

....great review here.

kickin_kyle
20-05-2005, 12:55:AM
just saw it and i thought it was great, only a few things were bad. like the general and "noooooooo!!!". definately better than the other two new ones (Y)

TheBlueBalla
20-05-2005, 01:34:AM
people who went at midnight: FAGGOTS.

first off, it's a school night. second, the weekends are coming up. third, it's a test crazy part of the year. :ewan:


I would normally agree, but this is a sweeping generalization: Keep in mind, some of us have left high school (H)

As such, last night I went with some friends to meet with an old friend close to the theatre. To our amazement, there wasnt even a line out front and it was 11:15ish. So one guy went up, asked, and they said they had a ton of tickets available (apparrently theyd just opened another theatre). So we bought them, walked a brisk 4 blocks to the Harris Teeter, bought and downed a few high end 40's (by the way, Pilsner Aquel tastes like chode) and then went in. Being that we had nothing better to do at that time, and were already on break, and at least I was planning on seeing it anyway, there was no reason not to. Anyway, those that I had heard of in DC, who camped 10 days (no joke) to see the thing first showing are complete suckers, as they couldve driven 20-30 minutes and seen it in a half empty theatre that was, amazingly, nerd free The whole night, i didnt see a single plastic lightsabre

Anyway, the movie. I personally liked it quite a bit. I never saw number 1, saw number 2 recently, and in comparison, id say it was better, but people have hit on all the reasons it was cool. The little details, and how tragic they made a science fiction tale seem were almost kind of moving. I keep getting flashbacks from the end of that fight scene, especially that little speech, but my complaint was the "noooo" everyone mentioned and how thickly they tried to lay the first (chronologically) movie in terms of connections. I think if most people have seen the first Star Wars, they will "get it" by the second hour without such overt signs

modena_10
20-05-2005, 02:52:AM
just saw it

i thought it was a great movie, did a very nice job of tying the whole plot together. lots of great action scenes. yoda's the man(if you saw if you know what i mean). sure a couple of parts were a little corny but i expected it.

if you havent seen I or II, do yourself a favour, get caught up and do it to watch episode III.

oh and im pretty sure general grievous was coughing due to the heart that he had and he beign a clone(obviously something ot that nature). yeah the leia, luke thing wasnt smooth either but what can you do. dooku went at the right time, what did you expect him to hand around all movie.

ttwellman
20-05-2005, 03:35:AM
The movie was pretty damn good. Beat,yoda cant be. The Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader battle was pretty tight.


I'd give it a B-. Some of the movie could have been done a lot better. I didnt really like the C3PO and R2D2 having their memories erased just like that. It was sort of haphazardly thrown in, as I believe Hakeem took note of earlier. Really liked the battle scenes. I thought Hayden did a fairly okay job. Not good enough to carry the movie like that. Natalie Portman...SOO HOT.

kickin_kyle
20-05-2005, 04:01:AM
i didnt see any problem with the memories being erased. Yoda, Obi Wan, and the other guy just said in the previous scene that they would keep it secret so nobody would be able to find out where the twins were hidden.

Natalie Portman's acting was strange, she seemed a lot different than the last two episodes.

(this movie has got me hooked on KOTOR know :( )

Rochester Rhino
20-05-2005, 04:18:AM
a kid in my school dressed up as one of the characters.

Hakeem
20-05-2005, 04:19:AM
and yoda saying that he will teach obiwan how to make contact with quigonn..zzz..if i'm not wrong quigonn wasn't even mentioned in the originals..

I actually liked that, because it explained how the ghost appeared i the sky at the end of Ep 6. and it's something that people were highly expectating so it was great little piece of info to get that connected ;)

do a proper review for your blog Hakeem.

TROD.

Ill get into it soon :)

Hakeem
20-05-2005, 06:34:AM
My Full Review (I kind of got workd up and angry but also sentimental while writing it :( :p )

Despite being a pretty big fan, I have not been super excited about Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, mostly because the other 2 prequels don't come even close to the classic and perfect originals. Between The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, I prefer Episode I, just because I had more fun with it, while Episode II was way too political, and the love story between Anakin Skywalker and Senator Padme Amidala just sucked big time, and the fact the Anakin is (or was in Episode I) like 10 years younger than her was just wrong.
Now compared with this third and presumably last Star Wars movie, I'm still not decided which one is better: Episode I is still the most fun and Liam Neeson's Qui-Gon Jinn ruled, while Episode III has way too much stuff going on, which works at times but doesn't at others, and I just have too many complaints about it, beginning and ending with mastermind creator, writer and director George Lucas' script and the way he portrayed some of the characters in this movie.

I'll start with what I liked so this doesn't turn into a complete Star Wars bashing. First and center Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan Kenobi. Just freaking cool all the way around. And he truly looks like he'll be the great old Obi-Wan in the years to come. He gets some really great scenes and McGregor delivers perfectly.
Also excellent was Yoda, but he's one of my favorite characters ever so I'm biased, but still, I really liked him all the time, and specially during the final scenes when he comes to the decision that the remaining Jedi's should hide and at the same time hide and protect Luke and Leia (more on them later).
And I say remaining Jedis because as we all know, they all had to die (except Yoda and Obi-Wan which were the only ones in the originals) and they die gloriously, but the movie's rating and lack true violence made the scene, a series of scenes where the Jedis are being killed one by one (even the little children), less satisfying than it should have been have Lucas had the balls to just come out with a Rated R version of the movie.
Something else I really liked despite being just a few sentences, was Obi-Wan and Yoda's conversation at the end of the movie about how the Jedis can still still be present after death, explaining the ghosts of Obi-Wan, Yoda and Anakin at the end of the saga in Return of the Jedi.
Baby Luke's fate at the end of the movie is handled really well and makes for a poetic ending.

I then have mixed feelings towards the other great characters of the classics, C-3PO, R2D2 and for the first in the prequels, Wookie warrior Chewbacca. The droids are separated most of the time, and C-3PO has way too little screen time, and he's just useless delivering a few lines that don't matter at all. On the other hand, R2D2 does way too much including getting into a fight, which looked good but at the same time was kind of lame the way it happens. Also, the way it's explained why they don't remember in the originals about what happens in these prequels is just lazy writing, and it seems as if Lucas remembered about it the last day of filming and just put it there at the end and as a one line for a secondary character, when it should've been Yoda or Obi-Wan the ones deciding that.
Chewbacca and the Wookie Warriors' appearance is cool but completely unnecessary, only there to get disappointed fans of the previous prequels excited about this one. Despite that, Chewbacca has a great scene with Yoda at the end of the movie.
Samuel L. Jackson's Mace Windu was also a disappointing character and his death was not near as cool as Jackson said it would be.
And I mentioned Baby Luke before as something I liked, but Baby Leia is a different story, because she ends up with Jimmy Smiths' Senator Organa and his wife, which doesn't explain at all why is she a Princess in the originals.

What I didn't like? Lots of things, starting by Natalie Portman as Senator Padme Amidala. Another useless character with almost nothing to do but cry and complain and copy Leia's hair. And the character is really different from the previous prequels, so I'm blaming Lucas and his writing for this.
Also his fault is the existence of the Clone Wars series and the Star Wars books, because he put some things in this movie that make sense only having seen and read those, and so in the movie they end up being stupid. One of these things is General Grievous's sickness and coughing, apparently because of a heart attack during the Clone Wars. And then Padme's out of nothing decision of the names Luke and Leia for the babies. She gives birth to one, Obi-Wan hands it to her and she cries the name, and then the other comes out and the same happens. How did she come up with the names? Well, apparently there's a whole chapter in the book about Anakin and Padme picking names for their future children, but not even a mention of that in the movie. And how did Ian McDiarmid's Chancellor Palpatine came up with Darth Vader's name is also a mystery which should've been explained.
Other thing that bothered me was Christopher Lee's Count Dooku only-beaten-by-BobbaFett's death. In Episode II he beat Yoda, and almost killed Obi-Wan and Anakin, but here Anakin kills him in less than 3 minutes. Yes, I understand that Anakin is more powerful now but still, it was too quick and easy. And the lightsaber fights kind of got old after so many times.
Finally, Hayden Christensen's Anakin Skywalker. These prequels have been all about this character, and I am not happy with Christensen work. Maybe it's the way the character is writen but I just didn't care for him at all.

I've also found out why is it that I can't get myself to love these prequels, and the reason is that Han Solo is not on them, nor is anybody even close to his coolness and real person behavior. Because I found myself bored at many times during this movie, and it was because of the protocolar dialogue delivered by the completely protocolar cast of characters. Han Solo would never talk like this, and his dialogue is what is missing from these prequels.

And so I am disappointed with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, maybe I was looking for perfection, which I knew I wasn't going to get, but still, I just have too many complaints compared to what I liked and so the result for me is negative. Should the prequels never have been made? Sometimes I think so, but no, they're necessary because of the magnitude of the originals and the greatness of Darth Vader. Should Lucas make sequels to the originals now? Let's hope he keeps his word and never makes them. May the Force be with him on that, and with us, as we try to continue our lives knowing that there wont be new Star Wars movies anymore.

Tom
20-05-2005, 02:00:PM
interesting review, wanna see it now :)

TROD.

JFG_Lancer
20-05-2005, 02:03:PM
I saw and i have to say that it is by far the best of the prequels and is good enough to bear the name Star Wars

Fernandez
20-05-2005, 03:33:PM
Watched the movie, and there were some lame parts which the crowd was laughing at, and I don't get it. The Darth Vader costume is way off the original. I loved the part where the Jedis get backstabbed. For me, the Jedis that were with Mace Windu died too easily like Count Dooku.

Sir Calumn
20-05-2005, 05:34:PM
After Padme says 'Ani, I'm pregnant', one of the friends who I was with said 'and Jar Jar Binks is the father' which made me burst out laughing and attract several dirty looks from the Star Wars fans :( I also distinctly heard some of them insulting my Star Wars knowledge after they overheard my questions to my more informed friends, god that made me feel low :(

pasion1
20-05-2005, 06:22:PM
Hak, Return of the Jedi was pretty far from perfect.....really far.

This is whats bad about Episode 3
- Dialogue (I used to be pissed by this but then ppl started to realize that the Originals didnt have perfect dialogue either (Return of the Jedi has horrible repetetive dialogue ("I have a bad feeling about this" is said like 72 times in the movie.)
-Some of the "wacky" cartoon spots (Ie: Obi Riding that wierd animal thing)
- The obvious (WHAT WAS HE THINKING??) "NOOOOO!!!!!" (God damn you George I hope its gone by the DVD......terrible)

The GOOD-
- We've seen ALL of this before. And thank god George made a Star Wars that was <different> but still not too far (General Grevious's light sabers were ......jaw dropping....wow).
- Music- The Final battle music....people have talked about it for years ....what could be an exiting theme? Instead Williams did a powerful score that had so much emotion
- The final battle was incredible (not in choreography....weve seen that all before.......but the emotion was perfect. PEople were near tears around me (It actually felt like "Look what its come too" )
- Acting......great for EMperor and Obi. Anikan gave his best yet.
-All strings tied up (People are wayy too picky. I saw a guy bitch for near 40 minutes that Jar Jar was actually "shown" on screen). So who cares? You could tell that PAdme knew the names of the babies by how sure she was of them (and how fast) "Oh yes....this one is Luke"

but common.....2 or 3 mistakes doesnt kill off the brilliant oppening (best ever). The dramatic last scenes. The planet designs........the surprisingly complex plot of the emperor taking power (screwing both sides....and hes the only winner by the end............it was well done even if expected)

- The scene with Padme and Obi confronting Anakin is going down in the top 5 greatest star wars moments of all time.
The "I Hate you!!!" with Ani's eyes turning completely bloody red....wow.

The pace was good, there was comedy and the theatre cheered like crazy when they had too and lied jaw dropped at the dramatic scenes (Surprisingly well done....give george credit for that).

This one deserves to be at the top with the original trilogy (and wayyy over Jedi and maybe a New Hope..........and we already knew what was going to happen <imagine if we saw the movie in order without knowing, it would have been incredibly shocking and moving experience>

Great movie.

Lean
20-05-2005, 06:58:PM
Mixed reviews. As a Jedi Academy player i just feel the need to watch Anakin fighting Obi Wan. I cant wait to watch this, i'm going next week.

modena_10
20-05-2005, 10:50:PM
Hak, Return of the Jedi was pretty far from perfect.....really far.

This is whats bad about Episode 3
- Dialogue (I used to be pissed by this but then ppl started to realize that the Originals didnt have perfect dialogue either (Return of the Jedi has horrible repetetive dialogue ("I have a bad feeling about this" is said like 72 times in the movie.)
-Some of the "wacky" cartoon spots (Ie: Obi Riding that wierd animal thing)
- The obvious (WHAT WAS HE THINKING??) "NOOOOO!!!!!" (God damn you George I hope its gone by the DVD......terrible)

The GOOD-
- We've seen ALL of this before. And thank god George made a Star Wars that was <different> but still not too far (General Grevious's light sabers were ......jaw dropping....wow).
- Music- The Final battle music....people have talked about it for years ....what could be an exiting theme? Instead Williams did a powerful score that had so much emotion
- The final battle was incredible (not in choreography....weve seen that all before.......but the emotion was perfect. PEople were near tears around me (It actually felt like "Look what its come too" )
- Acting......great for EMperor and Obi. Anikan gave his best yet.
-All strings tied up (People are wayy too picky. I saw a guy bitch for near 40 minutes that Jar Jar was actually "shown" on screen). So who cares? You could tell that PAdme knew the names of the babies by how sure she was of them (and how fast) "Oh yes....this one is Luke"

but common.....2 or 3 mistakes doesnt kill off the brilliant oppening (best ever). The dramatic last scenes. The planet designs........the surprisingly complex plot of the emperor taking power (screwing both sides....and hes the only winner by the end............it was well done even if expected)

- The scene with Padme and Obi confronting Anakin is going down in the top 5 greatest star wars moments of all time.
The "I Hate you!!!" with Ani's eyes turning completely bloody red....wow.

The pace was good, there was comedy and the theatre cheered like crazy when they had too and lied jaw dropped at the dramatic scenes (Surprisingly well done....give george credit for that).

This one deserves to be at the top with the original trilogy (and wayyy over Jedi and maybe a New Hope..........and we already knew what was going to happen <imagine if we saw the movie in order without knowing, it would have been incredibly shocking and moving experience>

Great movie.

well said, i agree

rony31
20-05-2005, 11:10:PM
saw this yesterday... since I'm not a Star Wars fan and the only movie I've seen was Episode I, I thought it was pretty average :p and dont worry, I knew about everything that happened in the previous movies so I wasnt confused


a lot of plot holes in the movie, like Hakeem mentioned... "LUKE! ........ LEAH!"... care to elaborate? also the naming of Anakin to Darth Vader... why that of all names? why not like Darth Shimbabayama or something?

I also thought the acting was horrible and cheesy (N)

Stotty
20-05-2005, 11:18:PM
How can you not be a star wars fan having featured in the films rony?

http://home.cshore.com/bucwheat/2k5/jabba.jpg

modena_10
20-05-2005, 11:48:PM
why not like Darth Shimbabayama or something?


your right rony, why not darth shimbabayama....why not

Virgo
21-05-2005, 01:08:AM
I watched it today and wasn't expecting anything since the other two sucked so f*cking much but came out pretty satisfied with it as it's definitely the best of the first three episodes by far.

It's a truly enjoyable blockbuster and although it doesn't live up to Episodes IV, V and VI it's a great movie nonetheless. And no Jar Jar Binks (Y)

The only thing that managed to ruin the movie for me was Hayden Christensen... this episode improved in almost all areas except him... he's still trash as Anakin and uncapable of delivering an half decent dramatic performance.

rony31
21-05-2005, 01:40:AM
How can you not be a star wars fan having featured in the films rony?

http://home.cshore.com/bucwheat/2k5/jabba.jpg

http://stuckon520.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/unibrow.jpg

easy there, Teen Wolf (H)

Nimreitz
21-05-2005, 03:11:AM
I thought it was a pretty good movie and didn't really feel the hate for Hayden Christiansen that I'm suppose to have as a Star Wars fan. I was expecting a great movie, and this was really good. It was kinda funny where the last 10 minutes were just trying to connect episode 3 to episode 4; I mean he could have just ended the movie without showing the Darth Vader suit, or the naming of Luke and Leah, or the adopting of the kids, or the early model Star Destroyers, or the early model Death Star, or the change in uniforms of the Imperial Officers on the early model Star Destroyer. But whatever, good movie, and I thought Christensen was ok in his role, I mean you couldn't really feel his internal conflict, but the performence was sufficient. Also he looked like Luke, right down to that 80's mop on his head.

Vagegast
21-05-2005, 05:45:AM
Biggest single day opening EVER.

SRB
21-05-2005, 07:05:AM
i'm sure star wars VII will topple it. and you know there's gonna be one :lui:

ngyc
21-05-2005, 07:17:AM
may be after a while you will heard lucas say he will continue the sequels :|

Nimreitz
21-05-2005, 07:19:AM
I think it's too much work. Plus if anyone wants to know what happens after the Empire falls just read the books. I'll sell my extensive collection (probably around 25-35 of them) for $2 per book. They're actually pretty good, I'd recommend the X-Wing Books and the Hand of Thrawn series. And now the full picture of how big of a geek I was is taking shape.

SRB
21-05-2005, 07:38:AM
oh cool i didn't know there was stuff after the movies. i gotta find a sparknotes version of the post movie stories.

Sir Calumn
21-05-2005, 01:41:PM
I thought it was a pretty good movie and didn't really feel the hate for Hayden Christiansen that I'm suppose to have as a Star Wars fan. I was expecting a great movie, and this was really good. It was kinda funny where the last 10 minutes were just trying to connect episode 3 to episode 4; I mean he could have just ended the movie without showing the Darth Vader suit, or the naming of Luke and Leah, or the adopting of the kids, or the early model Star Destroyers, or the early model Death Star, or the change in uniforms of the Imperial Officers on the early model Star Destroyer. But whatever, good movie, and I thought Christensen was ok in his role, I mean you couldn't really feel his internal conflict, but the performence was sufficient. Also he looked like Luke, right down to that 80's mop on his head. I disagree about Christiansen, I thought his performance was really bad and, while this normally wouldnt matter too much in the grand scheme of things, it really was him that was supposed to carry the film, something which he was just not capable of.

Apart from that though, unlike Rony I thought the rest of the acting was pretty good. Ewan McGregor did a superb job of turning into Alec Guinness as the film progressed, something which really made the connection to the originals more believable (and it was desperately in need of believability), and Samuel L. Jackson was as good as ever. Ian McDiarmid stole the show though which his great performance as the Emporer, I would like to see him get a best supporting actor nomination for that. Otherwise, my only complaint on the acting front, apart from Christiansen, was Natalie Portman, who was nowhere near her usual fluent self, adopting a different acting style to the other prequels which didnt quite come off in my opinion.

ngyc
21-05-2005, 03:55:PM
it was a good movie in my opinion in fact there are some part that pissed me off, mostly is what you guys said

-padme giving the "Luke" and "Leia" name part. how could a mother give a name straight after the birth and like don't even have to think about it? jedi force tell her???

-c3po and r2d2 to erase their memory?? why??

-how Leia become princess leia???

-why sith lord name anakin as darth vader? i can accept if he said that was the name suddenly come to his mind :confused:

-the last, the "no~~~" part. even though that is nothing so funny, but i just can't stand the darth vader voice in "no~~~~" :D

Virgo
21-05-2005, 04:30:PM
I disagree about Christiansen, I thought his performance was really bad and, while this normally wouldnt matter too much in the grand scheme of things, it really was him that was supposed to carry the film, something which he was just not capable of.

Apart from that though, unlike Rony I thought the rest of the acting was pretty good. Ewan McGregor did a superb job of turning into Alec Guinness as the film progressed, something which really made the connection to the originals more believable (and it was desperately in need of believability), and Samuel L. Jackson was as good as ever. Ian McDiarmid stole the show though which his great performance as the Emporer, I would like to see him get a best supporting actor nomination for that. Otherwise, my only complaint on the acting front, apart from Christiansen, was Natalie Portman, who was nowhere near her usual fluent self, adopting a different acting style to the other prequels which didnt quite come off in my opinion.

I agree. Christensen is trash and McGregor does look like a young Alec Guinness in the movie.

Hakeem
21-05-2005, 06:16:PM
I disagree about Christiansen, I thought his performance was really bad and, while this normally wouldnt matter too much in the grand scheme of things, it really was him that was supposed to carry the film, something which he was just not capable of.

Apart from that though, unlike Rony I thought the rest of the acting was pretty good. Ewan McGregor did a superb job of turning into Alec Guinness as the film progressed, something which really made the connection to the originals more believable (and it was desperately in need of believability), and Samuel L. Jackson was as good as ever. Ian McDiarmid stole the show though which his great performance as the Emporer, I would like to see him get a best supporting actor nomination for that. Otherwise, my only complaint on the acting front, apart from Christiansen, was Natalie Portman, who was nowhere near her usual fluent self, adopting a different acting style to the other prequels which didnt quite come off in my opinion.

agree with all of that, and Portman's acting and just the whole character was the biggest problem for me. bigger than Christensen.

-how Leia become princess leia???

ok, so apprently the books do tell you about the origin of the names. I can understand that. but really, why will Leia be a Princess in the future? Jimy Smiths' Organa was just a senator and he was married to someone who's not the new Queen (Whale Rider's Keisha Castle-Hughes shown at the end of the movie during Padme's funeral) :S

Nimreitz
21-05-2005, 11:00:PM
Just because he's a Senator doesn't mean he isn't also a King! Padme was a Queen and also a Senator.

They erased the Droids memories because they have new owners now and they want them to not think about someone else. Plus A New Hope would have been quite different if they both recognized Obi-Wan and the name Skywalker.

Just found this out....

The title “Darth” merely means “shadow warrior” and is the equivalent with the title “Lord”

Darth Vader means "The Dreaded Tormentor" in the ancient Sith language

INFESTA
21-05-2005, 11:24:PM
I think it's too much work. Plus if anyone wants to know what happens after the Empire falls just read the books. I'll sell my extensive collection (probably around 25-35 of them) for $2 per book. They're actually pretty good, I'd recommend the X-Wing Books and the Hand of Thrawn series. And now the full picture of how big of a geek I was is taking shape.

:|
God, I hope you weren't one of those geeks that went to the opening wearing a Darth Vader suit.
Btw, my cousin went to the opening here in Porto and there were some SW's geeks wearing costumes... Man, Law should allow you to beat up people like that, but it had to be right on the spot (so they can associate the beating with wearing those costumes).

Anyway, I got a good reason why Lucas will make the 3 following episodes: http://www.qsl.net/w5www/dollarbill.jpg

Tom
21-05-2005, 11:58:PM
just come back from watching it.

after we came out at 7pm the next 6 showings were all sold out :nape:

Ill write my review tomorrow.

TROD.

PhiLLer
22-05-2005, 01:13:AM
Just got back from seeing the movie. I'm no fan of the series but I thought I'd check it out anyway...why not.
What a disapointment it was!
The CG scenes were very well done and Ewan McGregor was good but Hayden Christensen was just terrible! The dialogue was sluggish, it felt kind of like "you say some, now I say something, now you reply to that with an answer, now I reply to that etc." dialogue.
Nathalie Portman looked stunning as ever but even her acting was a bit wooden, nothing like Christensen though, he was terrible, they could have had a tree play the part of Anakin, he was that wooden.

I enjoyed Episode I & II, they weren't brilliant acting wise but they were fun, this one got quite boring after a while and towards the end I just wanted it to be over and done with. I didn't really find myself caring for the characters, in fact the sooner they died the better just so the film could end.

I'm glad I'm not one of those idiots who camped outside the cinema for weeks!

Hakeem
22-05-2005, 02:46:AM
Just because he's a Senator doesn't mean he isn't also a King! Padme was a Queen and also a Senator.

No! PAdme had to quit being a Queen in order to become a senator.
And Organa is already to someone who's not the Queen anyway so there's no chance that he was a senator and a king because his wife was not the Queen.

They erased the Droids memories because they have new owners now and they want them to not think about someone else. Plus A New Hope would have been quite different if they both recognized Obi-Wan and the name Skywalker.

I know they had to erase they're memories because of all that BUT I think that have them erased by Organa just like that was cheap. It should've been something that Obi-Wan or even Yoda decides just because they're all going to hide and it would be trouble if someone knows about them.

The title “Darth” merely means “shadow warrior” and is the equivalent with the title “Lord”

Darth Vader means "The Dreaded Tormentor" in the ancient Sith language

I understand the 'Darth', because Maul and Sidious were also Darth so I got it that it means Lord. but I meant about the 'Vader' name that he invented out of nothing it seems.

ngyc
22-05-2005, 03:23:AM
I understand the 'Darth', because Maul and Sidious were also Darth so I got it that it means Lord. but I meant about the 'Vader' name that he invented out of nothing it seems.

may be the "vader" name suddenly come into his mind when naming it (H)

Tom
22-05-2005, 12:59:PM
god, seems you guys really hated the movie. lol

TROD.

Voltaic Borusse
22-05-2005, 03:24:PM
I've only watched like 20 minutes of it. I'll give my full thoughts after I watch the entire movie.

ngyc
22-05-2005, 04:40:PM
I've only watched like 20 minutes of it. I'll give my full thoughts after I watch the entire movie.

how you do it?

Fernandez
22-05-2005, 04:43:PM
Red Bull Racing had Star Wars fever.

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=123620

jani
22-05-2005, 05:35:PM
yeah, they had Darth Vader telling the car to stop and go at the pitstop :D

fender
22-05-2005, 07:15:PM
'Star Wars' Breaks Single-Day Sales Mark (http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=191680&GT1=6542)

Impressive. :jambo:

Sir Calumn
22-05-2005, 11:05:PM
Yeah, Vagegast mentioned that earlier. I'm not too surprised - everyone will have wanted to see how the story concluded.

rony31
23-05-2005, 12:39:AM
may be the "vader" name suddenly come into his mind when naming it (H)

http://www.onzuka.com/Photos/Big%20Van%20Vader.jpg

the Chancellor was a WWF fan

kickin_kyle
23-05-2005, 02:11:AM
I understand the 'Darth', because Maul and Sidious were also Darth so I got it that it means Lord. but I meant about the 'Vader' name that he invented out of nothing it seems.

maybe he thought of it before? :confused:

Hakeem
23-05-2005, 05:13:AM
yeah but why??? :(
I would've been happy even if they had a list to pick names from like the Popes :p

jani
23-05-2005, 05:46:AM
well, he did predict that Anakin was to become his apprentice. So maybe he already knew what to call him :)

fender
23-05-2005, 08:48:AM
I have a question, in Return Of The Jedi Luke asks Leia if she remembered anything about her mother and i remembering Leia saying that her mother was beautiful but sad. So who was Leia referring to, Senator Organa's wife? Since Padme died.

Hakeem
23-05-2005, 01:50:PM
I guess

Tom
23-05-2005, 02:06:PM
maybe someone told Leia when she was young that her mother (Padme) was beautiful but sad.

TROD.

PhiLLer
23-05-2005, 02:28:PM
Here's a great Star Wars review for ya.
http://ruthlessreviews.com/movies/s/sith.html

ngyc
23-05-2005, 03:14:PM
Here's a great Star Wars review for ya.
http://ruthlessreviews.com/movies/s/sith.html

it don't even look like a review. it look more like a anti-star wars fan who slamp star wars terribly

Tom
23-05-2005, 03:24:PM
"Written and Directed by George Lucasg"

good start.

TROD.

PhiLLer
23-05-2005, 04:13:PM
Yeah, it's a bashing not a review :p

Revenge of the Sith gets an 8.3 on IMDb, unbelievable. This movie may not have been the worst movie ever but it was pretty bad in the acting and script department.
It was quite entertaining in the special effects part and Ewan McGregor was good but Hayden Christensen was terrible and Nathalie Portman was a real let down after Garden State.

Nothing beats the classic Star Wars movies.

hanek45
24-05-2005, 01:11:AM
well...
saw the movie on saturday...:jap:

To be honest, I thought it was going to be a complete piece of ****, bu it wasn't. I enjoyed almost every moment of it.


The script and the acting were not perfect, but the feeling of finally knowing the whole story and understanding it completely made it a great movie. (Y)(Y)


They should have made the scene where Windu and the rest of the Jedis are murdered a bit more dramatic. After all, it is the climax of the movie. I loved the scene where Anakin burns and Obi Wan just leaves him there; I thought it was gonna be the other way around, Anakin forgiving Obi Wan. the scene where Padme gives birth to the childs is really crap.

Nimreitz
24-05-2005, 04:26:AM
I thought it was gonna be the other way around, Anakin forgiving Obi Wan.

Big Star Wars fan eh Hanek?

Leia is talking about Padme in Return of the Jedi. Obviously since they both had the ability to use the force the memories of Luke and Leia are better than just normal people's. She's talking about Amidala, not Organa.

Since the Emperor knew that Anakin would become his next apprentice he had time to think about a name. And if you don't like that explanation, the dark side of the force told him.

Amika
24-05-2005, 04:43:AM
saw the movie on opening day here.. it's defo the best of the prequel, but still too many things weren't match with the orignal trilogy.. ep IV obi-wan doesn't seem to know c-3po nor r2-d2 nor the 2 dronids seem to know obi-wan.. the other thing is r2-d2 in the pre-quel seem to be more advance then the old r2-d2, which is kinda odd since it is 20 odd years later which mean r2-d2 should have more tricks then the prequel r2-d2... lol.. i guess u can't win it all...:ewan:

Hakeem
24-05-2005, 04:48:AM
well, that the droids dont remember Obi-Wan is because thy got their memory erased. but yeah, Alec Guiness doesnt remember them either in the originals :(

and yep, the pimped R2D2 sucks (N)

Amika
24-05-2005, 06:17:AM
well, that the droids dont remember Obi-Wan is because thy got their memory erased. but yeah, Alec Guiness doesnt remember them either in the originals :(

and yep, the pimped R2D2 sucks (N)

lol.. i've a brief discussion of that with my friend on msn.. he gave me this answer.. cause obi-wan has parkinson deases after 20yrs.. hahahahaha... doesn't seem like he has since he remember pretty well what happened to anakin/darth vader and leia as well not to mention ask luke to go look for yoda... :ewan:

Nimreitz
24-05-2005, 07:09:AM
Well since the droids had their memory erased why does he need to say anything to them when he sees them in A New Hope? What was he going to say? "Hey, i know you don't remember me, but I used to hang out with you 30 years ago in the days of the Republic." I'm thinking that the droids sent to him by Leia weren't an accident and Bail Organa had a hand in sending him the droids he knew he'd remember.

PhiLLer
24-05-2005, 09:09:AM
I quite liked the new R2D2, it was a bit more souped up and not as cool as the older one but I liked the scene where he runs into a wall or where he electrocutes that robot thingy (sorry, not a big Star Wars fan here so I don't remember the names).

SRB
24-05-2005, 09:45:AM
i just saw the movie, and i liked it. the fight scenes were very good. the guy that played anakin was so very dull that it brought every scene to a halt. im guessing he was supposed to be played that way, because his character is supposed to be dark and confused, but i still think he should have showed way more emotion. i agree, when the jedis were slaughtered, it should have been way more dramatic, they just showed each one getting kind of capped off really quickly. i thought it was a very good movie overall.

ngyc
24-05-2005, 12:22:PM
"Written and Directed by George Lucasg"

good start.

TROD.

where is your review trod? :p

Tom
24-05-2005, 02:12:PM
quite simply i cant be arsed to write it, ill have a go later on today.

TROD.

Voltaic Borusse
24-05-2005, 02:49:PM
Slightly better than Episode's I and II like someone else already said, but not by a huge longshot. Hayden Christensen was still awful, as I anticiapated. He's just a terrible actor. I don't know what some people see in him.

Anakain's pre-pubescent angst through out the movie annoyed me to no avail like in Episode II, and it doesn't even seem believable in this Episode either. Also, I thought the transition from post-bad guy to Darth Vader was weak. I mean, it was done in such a short period of time. But I guess you can only do so much prolonging in 3 hours.

There are some stupid gripes I have though, for example, R2D2 doing stuff he never did in the original movies like pulling out an extended hands from out of his hatch and catching things with it with such ease, and flying.

I loved the ending, though. Where Vader, Sideous, and Tarkin are all standing around each other looking out the window as they watch the Death Star being built, and the over-shadowing scenes (Anakin vs. Dooku).

how you do it?

A friend hooked me up with a screeners' copy.

Tom
24-05-2005, 04:38:PM
my review: http://misplacedchildhood.blogspot.com/

NOTE - easily the worst review ive ever done, but i explain why in it.


Film Review: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

It seems an eternity since I went to see Star Wars: The Phantom Menace in the cinema with my mate, then again the 90's themselves seem so long ago. So finally the Star Wars saga comes to an end with its sixth outing (and a whole host of spin offs), I went to see it at a packed UGC cinema alongside thousands of other people waiting for the later showings, I never realised so many people liked Star Wars...

Star Wars Episode III marks Anakin Skywalker's descent into the dark side and towards becoming the infamous Darth Vader, it takes place around 20 years before Episode IV, made famous back in the seventies making Mark Hamill forever a star. Anakin and Obi-Wan start the film looking for the kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine who is being held hostage by the ruthless General Grevious and Count Dooku. Yet slowly but surely everything starts to turn in a dubious nature, the Jedi council suspects Palpatine of attempting to gain more control for himself, while Anakin struggles between believing Palpatine and an overly worried council who wants him to spy on the councillor. Obi-Wan is especially suspicious of Palpatine and attempts to further the easily-swayed Anakin away from his grasps. It turns out that Padme is pregnant with Anakin's child, yet his dreams foresee her dying in childbirth, something that terrifies him to the core. Swayed by his words Anakin believes that Palpatine can help him to save Padme by harnessing the powers of the dark side. In doing so he unleashes a tyrant within himself that will change the universe forever, setting the scene perfectly for Episode IV: A New Hope.

Anakin is played for the second time by Hayden Christenhansen and isn’t terribly bad in the role, but in saying this he isn’t overly good either. His general performance is well acted and quite emotional, but whether it is his fault or Lucas', his descent towards the dark side is a far too quick so becomes distinctly unbelievable, apart from this he plays the part solidly and in a mysterious way that compliments the part perfectly. Ewan McGregor reprises his role of Obi-Wan for the third time and he seems well adapted to the part, a few distinctly Star Wars-like jokes add to the character and he seems to be sounding more like Alec Guinness by the second, he really has come on leaps and bounds since a disappointing performance in Episode I. Supreme Councillor Palpatine is played by Ian McDiarmid for a sixth time, by now you cant really imagine anyone else in the role and he plays it distinctly well in the most part, a few times some of his lines are drawn out which doesn’t help his character but these are mostly few and far between. The back up acting is extremely good; Samuel L. Jackson is utterly fantastic and Frank Oz is again good as Yoda. However, in a poorly written part Natalie Portman gives a disappointing performance as Padme, I’m genuinely shocked at this as she was so terrific in the previous too movies. This time the part has lost its way and Portman is too emotional for it to be believable throughout the whole film.

’Revenge of the Sith’ has 2 major problems, the first of which I have just outlined; Padme's character is dreadfully written in this movie and her death is totally unrealistic, it seems Lucas couldn’t figure out any other way for her to die and you cringe at the scene in which it happens, even Obi-Wan seems a bit perplexed by it all. This is a real disappointment as the character development has so obviously lost its way over the course of the trilogy. My second problem lies with the inevitable selling out by Lucas, managing to include random scenes with C3PO, R2D2 and even Chewbacca only to appease the traditional Star Wars fans, what are the chances that R2D2 was really Anakin's robot before he went mental; unlikely I feel. Also, I cant remember him ever being so mobile in the previous films; flying up in the air and using his boosters to ignite some oil? You can just imagine Luke and his Uncle's face if he did that a few years later...

So Revenge of the Sith is predictable and a real sell out? Probably so, but it really doesn’t matter when the pros outweigh the cons on such a grand scale. Quite simply, this is one of the best films I have ever seen.

There's going to be a lot of you out there who disagree with that statement, and that’s fine by me. I have tried to be objective about this review; but I simply can’t be. I'm a massive Star Wars fan and I’ve waited for this moment since the early 90's so forgive my opinions for being slightly tainted. Star Wars' story is second to none, and seeing the prequel to the most famous trilogy ever is a real privilege, sat in the cinema watching as you know that tiny things included by Lucas will affect major things in the final films is a wonderful treat.

The special effects are also wonderful, it's no surprise that ‘ILM’ have pulled it out of the bag on this account, the music also manages to bring back all those feelings you had towards the first films that were so disappointingly missing from Ep.1 and 2. Indeed John Williams has a done a fantastical job with the score this time around, changing and adapting the tunes we know so well to fit a brand new movie; when the Imperial March first softly plays in the background the hairs on your neck stand up in military fashion.

This review is longer than the rest of my previous ones, and that’s because I’m finding it so terribly hard to say why this film is so good. I think it's maybe because It makes you feel young again: watching re-runs of Empire Strikes Back when ITV show it over the Christmas break, or when you whip out those old battered videos on a rainy day, suddenly you're no longer in the cinema with 800 people, you're with an old friend who's entertaining you the way they always did, you're at home.

If you don’t like Star Wars then this movie is just another Hollywood exploit to make money, but if you a big Star Wars fan and can get past the odd bad acting performance, suddenly this movie seizes you. At first you think it's going to fail and make you laugh, but once you forget about acting ‘cool’ and watch the movie; good god this stuff is good. The story is excellent, the actual screenplay is amazingly well put together and reeks of Lucas all the time. Probably over everything though, is the ending. Many will disagree with me but to end a film, neigh an ‘institution’ on such a scene as to bring back so many memories to Star Wars fans was such a wonderfully amazing idea, with the theme tune blasting out over the cinema and with you captivated by the screen, the credits star to role with that unmistakable tune and the lights come on, I turned to my friend; "that’s one of the best movies I’ve ever seen" I said.

5/5

TROD.

Fernandez
24-05-2005, 04:42:PM
I thought the R2-D2 in E3 was a bit lame. If the viewers in the cinema laughed because of that, I think they are lame too.

PhiLLer
24-05-2005, 05:35:PM
Anakin is played for the second time by Hayden Christenhansen and isn’t terribly bad in the role, but in saying this he isn’t overly good either. His general performance is well acted and quite emotional...

Oh please, you must have been blind to think that he wasn't terrible.
You disapoint me, Tom :p

Tom
24-05-2005, 05:37:PM
he isnt overly good, and then i go on to say;

"but whether it is his fault or Lucas', his descent towards the dark side is a far too quick so becomes distinctly unbelievable"

TROd.

Virgo
24-05-2005, 07:45:PM
man... Lucas is a crap director but don't blame on the guy that Hayden Christensen couldn't do a dramatic expression to save his life. I mean he ain't that bad in other movies like Virgin Suicides or Shattered Glass which I enjoyed but he's one of the worse miscasts in history as Anakin Skywalker and there's no way of going around that.

Tom
24-05-2005, 09:24:PM
quite simply i disagree, he is well cast and the part is on the most part well written, unfortunatly in the last half of this the acting and the written aspect of the part goes downhill. He was good in Attack of the clones and good at being 'myseterious' and 'suspcious' at the start of this film, he only loses it because the movie cant add a further 20 minutes onto the film to show more of his descent.

TROD.

Virgo
24-05-2005, 09:30:PM
He was good in Attack of the clones

:rofl:

okay nevermind, it's not worth the trouble if you have that opinion :(

Tom
24-05-2005, 09:36:PM
scathing Virgo, scathing abuse there.

Cant reply to my actual post so you single out one point, oh well.

TROD.

MikeyM
24-05-2005, 10:00:PM
In ROTJ.

Yoda's first appearence in the Star Wars Origional Trilogy was in the Empire Strikes Back (EP5) Luke flies his X-Wing to Dagobah where he is partially trained by Yoda (He goes to Cloud City to save Leia and Han before his training is complete)

Yoda appears in Episode 1 - in 2 and 3 he actually duells. He is not seen in Episode 4 (A New Hope)


Mike

Tom
24-05-2005, 10:07:PM
great post :D:D

TROD.

Virgo
24-05-2005, 10:30:PM
scathing Virgo, scathing abuse there.

Cant reply to my actual post so you single out one point, oh well.

TROD.

I think the guy was trash and I've stated why and you think he was good, I mean I was having a laugh with my mates at the guy's poor attempt to act when I went to see Attack of the Clones, while you were enjoying it.

I'm sure we won't agree in anything, so why will I waste time arguing with someone who has a completely different opinion than mine?


If I actually cared that much about making points I'd have my own blog right now... but I just can't be arsed. Just don't piss me off saying I can't reply to what you post because that's ridiculous... please.

Tom
24-05-2005, 10:32:PM
ok no problem, i dont mind having different opinions; i stressed that in my review. I simply took offence cos i dont like people dismissing posts with a quick answer, now lets put this behind us and go off to the bathroom together gorgeous :lui:

:(

TROD.

ManU2000
25-05-2005, 12:22:AM
Saw the movie today and I enjoyed it, much better than Episodes I and II.

INFESTA
25-05-2005, 01:29:AM
Just came back from the threatre. I'd like to make 3 quick points (spoilers included):

1- I am not a Star Wars fan.
There's an invisible wall separating our reality from the Star Wars' reality. To some people, like myself, who never managed to transpass that wall, the saga always looked like a cartoonish tale. In other words, we couldn't cherish the story itself because we didn't even believe what we were seeing onscreen: Darth Vader was the man dressed in a funny black costume (as was 3PO and the rest of the gang), Yoda was a puppet, etc.
To those who entered the reality Lucas imagined, everything made sense.


2- Most of the gripes some of you seemed to have with this movie were directly connected to Nathalie Portman's performance: Padme's character in this third installment and how distant it was from the Padme of Eps. I & II and her naming the babies instantly.
Firstly, I am living a period of my life where most of my friends either had kids recently or are pregnant. Padme's behaviour, fears and hopes in this Ep. III seem quite adjusted to what I see in my friends. Women do change their goals in life. Honestly, I couldn't see Padme acting any other way.
Secondly, what mother has not chosen the name of their child before he/she was even born? Naturally, Padme had already chosen the names Leia and Luke for her twins - yes, she knew she had 2 babies in her womb.

Hayden Christensen's sure wasn't the best possible cast for Anakin, but thought he wasn't as bad as some of your portrayed him to be. He was believable enough, especially in the first part of the film.

I do agree with Vader's 'NOOOOOO'. I'd rather expect him to have a contained - but more powerful - reaction. Something like a deep breath ('UHHHHHHHHHH') and tighting his fists.

2,5- Why don't you guys complain about more obvious problems:
a) Anakin is engulfed in flames after the battle with Obi-Wan, but suddenly the fire ends. Was there an F1 firemen crew on the planet and Lucas failed to film them?
b) (Not 100% sure but) I could swear Anakin's light saber was red when he reached planet Mustafar and killed the Separatist leaders. However, his light-saber was blue during the fight with Obi-Wan. Do they have a switch for the saber's colour or did he made a quick trip back home? Or did he use another light saber and I simply failed to remember that scene?
c) If Darth Vader had enough of Anakin in him to let go a lame 'NOOOOOOOO', why didn't he go looking for his son afterwards, especially in the most obvious place possible? Yeah, Palpatine told him he had killed Padme, but Vader didn't seem too convinced either.


3- About the film itself, I was completely blown away by this movie: the drama, the score, the colours, the characters. Enjoyed it like no other of the whole saga; maybe because it's more dramatic in a sense, but surely because I finally breached the invisible wall. I am a Star Wars fan.

Hyun
25-05-2005, 01:48:AM
how do you properly start off watching star wars? I don't know shiiiit. :fool:

Hakeem
25-05-2005, 03:51:AM
try watching from eps 1 to 6 and see how it goes. like an experiment :D

and great review Trod. and Im really jealous that you loved the movie. believe me, I tried, and the more I think about it the more I cant believe I was dissapointed but I truly was :(
Im going to try and watch it again this weekend and Ill probably see it a third time at the dollar theatres.

Mikey
25-05-2005, 05:01:AM
Just saw the movie, and I thought it was very good. I wouldnt consider myself a diehard Star Wars fan (guys that dress up as characters, camp out days before, take it a bit too far), but im definately a fan of the movies and own them all on DVD. I thought Ep1 was a disappointment, and seemed like too much of a kiddy movie, although Darth Maul was pretty awesome. I know its 'trendy' to say how bad Jar Jar Binks really was, but after watching Ep1 again for first time in a couple years it was just brutal. Theres a reason why his role was much smaller in part 2 and he didnt even speak in part 3. I didnt really have a problem with Ep2. The lightsaber battles were outstanding in all 3 new movies.

I like how a lot of you made sure to point out, "im not a star wars geek and have never seen any of the movies ". Really, who are you impressing? Stop kidding yourself, just because your not a fan of Star Wars movies doesnt mean your Gods gift to women.

Hakeem, seriously, how interesting of a scene would it have been if Anakin and Padme sat around at the dinner table and went through a book of names? I agree it kinda looked bad (maybe just down to Portmans acting, which was bad). I didnt like the casting of Jimmy Smits, id much rather have an unknown actor, it was kind of distracting.

I went to see it with two other friends. One of them had never seen any Star Wars movies, and is not the kind of guy who likes these movies, he just came cause he had nothing else better to do. After seeing it he asked to borrow all my movies. (Y)

ngyc
25-05-2005, 05:59:AM
there are the peoples who don't like sci-fi movie. just like one of my friend. she told me the movie is nothing special, what she saw are lots of flashing, lasers, beam-beam laser gun or light-saber waving sound. she told me the movie is for kid and she don't even like it. another reason i think she hate the movie was she never watch other episodes before and she don't even know what is the story about :D

but the funny thing is she told me she is looking forward to war of the worlds which is sci-fi movie as well :|

Nimreitz
25-05-2005, 06:49:AM
I like how a lot of you made sure to point out, "im not a star wars geek and have never seen any of the movies ". Really, who are you impressing? Stop kidding yourself, just because your not a fan of Star Wars movies doesnt mean your Gods gift to women.

The same reason people who post their picture online always go "this is me at the beach, but I look like **** because blah blah blah;" they just can't admit that they look like **** because they are ugly. Whatever. I used to play Star Wars RPG for hours every weekend at my friends off; basically Star Wars D&D. And now, I'm rather cool. A lot of people think you can't be cool and a nerd at the same time, and I feel sorry for them because everyone is a nerd at something, and everyone who posts on this online forum certainly is.

PhiLLer
25-05-2005, 10:13:AM
I enjoy a good sci-fi movie, which is the reason I went to see Star Wars.
The score was excellent, the action/CGI scenes were well done but the entire movie was let down by Christensen who should perhaps and think of a career change, he was aweful.

Didn't any of you think the dialogue was cliche and cheesy as hell? It was like a 4th grade school play.

Voltaic Borusse
25-05-2005, 10:39:AM
Yoda's first appearence in the Star Wars Origional Trilogy was in the Empire Strikes Back (EP5) Luke flies his X-Wing to Dagobah where he is partially trained by Yoda (He goes to Cloud City to save Leia and Han before his training is complete)

Yoda appears in Episode 1 - in 2 and 3 he actually duells. He is not seen in Episode 4 (A New Hope)


Mike

If you look back earlier in the thread you'll see I corrected myself.

Touche to Nimreitz. Couldn't have said that better myself.

INFESTA
25-05-2005, 10:43:AM
I like how a lot of you made sure to point out, "im not a star wars geek and have never seen any of the movies ". Really, who are you impressing? Stop kidding yourself, just because your not a fan of Star Wars movies doesnt mean your Gods gift to women.

The same reason people who post their picture online always go "this is me at the beach, but I look like **** because blah blah blah;" they just can't admit that they look like **** because they are ugly. Whatever.

Hmm, as far as I'm concerned there was a reason to why I wasn't a Star Wars fan and to why I mentioned it in my post - and I explained both reasons.

Hakeem
25-05-2005, 01:57:PM
Hakeem, seriously, how interesting of a scene would it have been if Anakin and Padme sat around at the dinner table and went through a book of names? I agree it kinda looked bad (maybe just down to Portmans acting, which was bad). I didnt like the casting of Jimmy Smits, id much rather have an unknown actor, it was kind of distracting.

they could've refferenced the names to her uncles or something. I mean, where the hell are Padme's parents anyway?

Tom
25-05-2005, 02:16:PM
thanks for reading my review guys. By the way on a side note, today i was going to go watch Monster in Law on my own at 12.45, then at about 10.30 this morning i saw that Star Wars Episode 4 was starting at 10.50 on Sky Movies 4 :D :D

Thats right guys, i ditched Monster in law for a movie ive seen so many times before, trust me, Episode 4 is still amazing. :rockman:

By the way, maybe one day you'll like Episode III Hakeem :D

TROD.

JFG_Lancer
25-05-2005, 03:04:PM
Well i just saw again today and i have to say i agree that the acting needed a lot of work but the music and fights were superb (Y) so here is a little rating on the parts:

Acting: 5
Score: 10+
Fight Scenes: 8
Story: 8

And as a side note i love the Star Wars series and i would have to say i have seen all the original films a million times and Episode III has a different fell than the originals but it does not have the fell of the prequels. What this movie does is fill in the blanks left after AOTC, which in my opinion is one of the worst films ever, and the PM.

Fernandez
25-05-2005, 04:08:PM
How did clonetroopers become stromtroopers?

Tom
25-05-2005, 04:29:PM
they're the same thing, just changed names :D

TROD.

10Ruud
25-05-2005, 10:34:PM
Cloning with backwards cloning techniques not yet known to civilization as we know it.

kickin_kyle
26-05-2005, 12:47:AM
How did clonetroopers become stromtroopers?

the Clonetroopers "stormed" into the republic and over through it? maybe thats why.

Hakeem
26-05-2005, 01:06:AM
that is a good question. cause are supposed to think that the stormtroopers from the originals were all clones too? people didnt even know what a clone was back then :confused:

Nimreitz
26-05-2005, 04:45:AM
Hmm, as far as I'm concerned there was a reason to why I wasn't a Star Wars fan and to why I mentioned it in my post - and I explained both reasons.

Yeah, I was afraid of this. I know I was responding to a comment addressed to you, but what I said was much more general and not really directed at anyone in particular although I know it looked like it.

The Clonetroopers to Stormtroopers occured when the Empire was born. Clonetroopers were the infantry of the Old Republic... Stormtroopers are the police/secret police (with the OBVIOUS Nazi reference)/infantry of the Empire. Stormtroopers are the Empire's verson of Clonetroopers. Remember, there really isn't an Empire in Episode 3 until the final 3 minutes or so when we see the Emperor and Vader on the early model Star Destroyer looking at the under construction Death Star. Only then do we see the uniforms that Imperial Officers wore during the first three movies.

JFG_Lancer
26-05-2005, 05:42:AM
The Clonetroopers to Stormtroopers occured when the Empire was born. Clonetroopers were the infantry of the Old Republic... Stormtroopers are the police/secret police (with the OBVIOUS Nazi reference)/infantry of the Empire. Stormtroopers are the Empire's verson of Clonetroopers. Remember, there really isn't an Empire in Episode 3 until the final 3 minutes or so when we see the Emperor and Vader on the early model Star Destroyer looking at the under construction Death Star. Only then do we see the uniforms that Imperial Officers wore during the first three movies.

That is a great explaination that was what i thought also.

SRB
26-05-2005, 06:58:AM
yea it is a great explenation, but it only shows how lucas took the last 3 minutes of the film to basically connect it with the later movies, as if to say, "Yea, here's what you know, its in here, i just dont want to spend another 10 minutes explaining everything and connecting the stories better."

Tom
26-05-2005, 12:39:PM
why is this such a big deal? its just a different name, they are effectivley the same..

TROD.

Tom
26-05-2005, 11:49:PM
got this off IMDB, who would she have played?:

Trivia: Ling Bai was supposed to be in it, but all her scenes were cut out by George Lucas following her decision to pose nude for Playboy.

?

TROD.

rpvankasteren
27-05-2005, 12:45:AM
Some senator.

Cutting her out seems to have been for film length reduction, as the final cinema cut was done before she was signed to do the Playboy shoot.

(all from IMDB comments, not my knowledge)

Tom
27-05-2005, 12:36:PM
yeah i think thats why i actually, i did hear something about it. Its a pity this movie wasnt longer anyway, needed more time to show Anakin's descent into the darkside, make it more believeble.... Though i have already said this, so maybe this is a form of postboosting :(

TROD.

Joe Star
27-05-2005, 02:53:PM
Just watched the movie last night. The ending seemed a little hurried to me. Grevious was a serious dissapointment. Anakin turning to Vader was pretty crappy & so was the killing of the Jedi's. Anakin & Obi-Wan's fight in the end could have been more passionate(not in THAT way k :p ). I suppose old man lucas didnt want to drag it to 3 hours. Either way it sure kicked episode 1 & 2's ass :rockman:.

EDIT: The main reason that made me like this movie was the fact that Jar-Jar did not even get a single line. Thank gawd!! Oh yeah....& i never knew a Death Star took 20+ years to build!! :rolleyes:

Lean
27-05-2005, 05:11:PM
Watched it yesterday. I would rate it 2nd best in the whole series, losing to Empire Strikes Back. It's a good movie overall, lots of fancy saber fights. The jedis dying was kinda superficial but well, he would need more time to do it properly, so for a 2 hour movie the deaths were decent. C3PO was as useless as ever, but i dont care much about that.

Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting was great, i still get some flashes in my mind from Obi-Wan throwing it all out on Anakin : "You were the chosen one!!!!!!!!". About the acting, i dont think it was as bad as some people said. Ewan was in great shape, and so was Ian Mcdiarmid. About Hayden, well, i think he was ok. He needs to work on his speaking but well, he had a decent role in the movie as Vader, i mean, i dont think there would be anyone better to represent evil as him. The look on his face, the eyes, the scar.

The movie has a few flaws, like that Noooooooooooo by Vader, which was quite ridiculous. But i had a lot of laughs after the movie when remembering the Emperor saying like : "From now on, you're going to be known as......Darth..................................... ....................Vader (sounds surprised)". I was joking with my mates later : "Oh yea, from now on you're Darth.............Vader. Vader? Yea, Vader! Vader sounds cool man! Yea, from now on you're Vader motha****a!"

And Padmé aswell :"Ya know, **** it. This one is Luke. Huh? There's a girl too? Ok, this one is Leia. Now excuse me, i'm gonna die." Apart from those ones, i think it was a very good movie.

PSVFOREVER
28-05-2005, 11:30:AM
i watched it yesterday, and is it just me, but isnt it a little strange a robot is coughing all the time :( (you know, that one with the 4 lightsabers, with that difficult name)

everybody knows that Cody guy was the best in the film (H)(H)

edit: and why dont they have video technique there :( I mean, isnt it more clear if you see a video than some kind of crappy hologram (where Obi-Wan watches Anakin kill those kids)

rpvankasteren
28-05-2005, 11:44:AM
General Grievous isn't really a droid, I think, he's more of a cyborg. But based on some kind of bug, not a humanoid being.

That Cody guy certainly had the biggest part in the film :p


ps: holograms are 3d, so you can pan around the picture :brow:

MikeyM
28-05-2005, 04:44:PM
Watched it yesterday. I would rate it 2nd best in the whole series, losing to Empire Strikes Back. It's a good movie overall, lots of fancy saber fights. The jedis dying was kinda superficial but well, he would need more time to do it properly, so for a 2 hour movie the deaths were decent. C3PO was as useless as ever, but i dont care much about that.

Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting was great, i still get some flashes in my mind from Obi-Wan throwing it all out on Anakin : "You were the chosen one!!!!!!!!". About the acting, i dont think it was as bad as some people said. Ewan was in great shape, and so was Ian Mcdiarmid. About Hayden, well, i think he was ok. He needs to work on his speaking but well, he had a decent role in the movie as Vader, i mean, i dont think there would be anyone better to represent evil as him. The look on his face, the eyes, the scar.

The movie has a few flaws, like that Noooooooooooo by Vader, which was quite ridiculous.

And Padmé aswell :"Ya know, **** it. This one is Luke. Huh? There's a girl too? Ok, this one is Leia. Now excuse me, i'm gonna die." Apart from those ones, i think it was a very good movie.


I saw it yesterday and I was very impressed, the action and score were fantastic and even the acting wasn't that bad (IMO) The combat scenes were very good, if a little short - especially Grevious V Obi Wan. Although the moment Grevious starts spinning those sabres like whirling blades of death is easily one of my favourite moments of the entire saga. And the final confrontation surpassed my every expectation, even the final exchange was well done, expecially Darth Vader's heartfelt "I hate you!" It was however somewhat odd hearing James Earl Jones' famous Vader voice saying "Where is Padme, Is she safe?" or indeed "Noooooooooooooooooo!"

I did however think the battle droids became a bit too stupid in this movie, the only thing we have heard from them are orders or "Roger Roger"

Overall I loved this movie, and I am eagerly awaiting the day of it's DVD release.


Mike

Tom
28-05-2005, 06:25:PM
very very similar opinion to me Mike, but i must say i liked the added humour with the droids :)

I think we're all in the opinion that James Earl Jones' noooooooo wasnt needed.

TROD.

Hakeem
29-05-2005, 02:04:AM
I dont get the Cody guy joke :(

jani
29-05-2005, 05:03:AM
how much older is Padme compared to Anakin?

ngyc
29-05-2005, 05:24:AM
']how much older is Padme compared to Anakin?

10 years perhaps :confused:

Joe Star
29-05-2005, 03:58:PM
']how much older is Padme compared to Anakin?
I heard before that anakin was 9 & amidala was (apparently) 14 or 15 in episode 1. So that figures into a 5 or 6 year difference.

Tom
29-05-2005, 05:33:PM
according to imdb:

" Originally, a young Han Solo was going to make an appearance in the film, living among the Wookies on Kashyyyk."

TROD.

yim87
29-05-2005, 05:46:PM
and i thought the other wookie beside chewbacca was going to turn out as han solo..


ok that wasn't funny.. :boohoo:

ngyc
30-05-2005, 10:22:AM
according to imdb:

" Originally, a young Han Solo was going to make an appearance in the film, living among the Wookies on Kashyyyk."

TROD.

i'm glad he didn't do it :$

MikeyM
30-05-2005, 09:11:PM
According to the official novels of the films, the age differences are;

Anakin in Episode 1 is 10, Padme is 14 (four year gap)
In Episode 2 they are 20 and 16 respectively
(Nathalie Portman had just turned 16 herself)
And Episode III is set approximately 3 years after II. Hayden Cristensen is about 23-4 (He was born in 81) The clone wars lasted 3 years.

Han Solo would have only been 6 at the time Revenge of the Sith is set, therefore he would still likely be on Corellia.
(He is said to be six years older than Luke)

Oh and for the record Chewbacca is approximately 200! :)



Mike

Tom
30-05-2005, 09:24:PM
sounds nearly right, i think portman was 17 when the first one was filmed???

TROD.

MikeyM
30-05-2005, 10:01:PM
sounds nearly right, i think portman was 17 when the first one was filmed???

TROD.

No, she says on the interview on the EPII DVD that she turned 16 just as Attack of the Clones was being filmed, hence the reason George Lucas dressed her to be more openly sexy and showing more skin.


Mike

JFG_Lancer
30-05-2005, 10:36:PM
Well i have two questions that have not been asked here as far as I know...

Question 1: At the end of Sith you can see the Death Star being made. That means it took about 19 years for the first Death Star to be fully operational but it only took a few short years for the second to be operational?

Question 2: In the original Star Wars Leia was Princess Leia but her adopted father was Senator Organa, he was not a King, does he become a king in the 19 years between the movies?

These are two things that really have left me scrathing my head after seeing all movies in order

Hakeem
31-05-2005, 01:47:AM
yeah we've talked about those things already. the first one can be easily answered with that now its the first time they're doing it while the second time they already have the experience of doing it.

about Leila being a Princess, still no reason :(

yim87
31-05-2005, 07:26:AM
yeah we've talked about those things already. the first one can be easily answered with that now its the first time they're doing it while the second time they already have the experience of doing it.
and i can still remember vader pushing the commander the speed up the construction of the 2nd death star..

I have a question, in Return Of The Jedi Luke asks Leia if she remembered anything about her mother and i remembering Leia saying that her mother was beautiful but sad. So who was Leia referring to, Senator Organa's wife? Since Padme died.but luke went to ask "your mother, your real mother" , no?

pasion1
31-05-2005, 07:49:AM
FUNNY SITE!!!!!
(This guy is a fanatic of Star Wars and reviews all his movies in "script" form

http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith

Read the other Star Wars reviews too.....they are really good

(note: He rips on EVERY movie he reviews.....even if he gave it a perfect score <which he did for this flick>

here's a sample of the review.


CLONE TROOPER
He's dead. Nobody could have
survived that fall. Except a Jedi,
of course.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Jesus, they've become really
stupid. This movie really DOES
bridge the gap between the original
trilogy and the prequel trilogy.

or I liked this one

EWAN MCGREGOR
I will attempt to destroy you now,
without waiting for my support
troops to arrive.

GENERAL GREVIOUS
(coughing)
Are you serious? You've lost
literally every single duel you've
been a part of except for the one
with Darth Maul. Hayden constantly
mentions how many times he has saved
you. What have you done in the
entire prequel trilogy so far to
prove that you're actually a decent
fighter?




but this is loooong. so enjoy. (Also check out the Mortal Kombat 2 Review......classic)

INFESTA
31-05-2005, 11:25:AM
Great link, pasion1!

Here's my fav part:

NATALIE'S SHIP lands and she runs to HAYDEN.

NATALIE PORTMAN
Hayden! I heard you've gone toward
the dark side! It's not true, is it?
Why are your eyes all red?

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
(furrowing his brow)
You brought Ewan, didn't you? To
actually act well and make me look
wooden and awful!

NATALIE PORTMAN
Of course not! I'm even worse than
you in this movie, why would I bring
someone capable of acting well here?



Another classic:

A CGI MEDICAL DROID is delivering NATALIE'S CHILDREN.
Another CGI DROID talks to EWAN and JIMMY SMITS.

JIMMY SMITS
Jesus, not every scene needs some
digital character in them. She's
giving birth, can't we leave at
least a FEW frames of the film free
from CGI bull****? Hell, Ewan chould
have delivered the twins, that would
be more dramatic.

DIRECTOR GEORGE LUCAS
More what?

MEDICAL DROID
She's dying. She has given up the
will to live.

EWAN MCGREGOR
Given up the will to live? She does
know she has two brand new babies to
live for, doesn't she?

Sir Calumn
31-05-2005, 02:34:PM
Haha, good stuff (Y)

This is my favourite bit, rather long but absolutely brilliant:


HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN runs up to SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING
JACKSON

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Samuel, I rented the original Star
Wars trilogy from Blockbuster. I'm
pretty sure Ian McDiarmid is a Sith
Lord.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON
Then it's time to get medieval on
some ass.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Let me come with you.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON
No, go your room.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON and some OTHER JEDI go to
see IAN. Meanwhile HAYDEN stares out the window of the JEDI
TEMPLE, toward NATALIE PORTMAN'S APARTMENT. Though he says
nothing, we can see that he is conflicted, trying to decide
between his commitment to the Jedi order and his love for
his wife. NATALIE, at the same time, gazes toward the Jedi
Temple, wondering what will happen to her husband.

HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
How pathetic is it that the best
acted scene between us is the one in
which we are in separate buildings
and have no lines?

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON enters IAN MCDIARMID'S
CHAMBER.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON
Ian, you're under arrest for being
a manipulative motherfûcker.

IAN MCDIARMID
I got a threshold, Jedi. I got a
threshold for the abuse I'll take.
And right now I'm a race car and you
got me in the red. I'm just saying
that it's fûckin' dangerous to have
a racecar in the fûckin' red. It
could blow.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON
Oh, you're gettin' ready to blow?

IAN MCDIARMID
I could blow.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON
Well I'm a mushroom-cloud-layin'
motherfûcker, motherfûcker! Every
time my fingers touch my lightsaber
I'm Superfly TNT. I'm the Guns of
Navarone.

Suddenly, IAN pulls out his LIGHTSABER. He moves toward the
JEDI, pulls his arm back, aims at a Jedi, kills him, pulls
his blade out, moves toward another, and slowly kills him
too, all while SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON twirls his
lightsaber around pointlessly behind them. Once only SAMUEL
is left, they DUEL. IAN makes silly faces and is eventually
beaten. HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN arrives.

SAMUEL L. MOTHERFÛCKING JACKSON
Let me read to you from the book of
Ezekiel for a--

Suddenly, IAN unleashes some force lightning on SAMUEL,
which he absorbs into his lightsaber and somehow pushes back
onto IAN, which causes him to grow old, apprently.

pasion1
31-05-2005, 06:09:PM
yeah i know....the site is so awesome (it actually got published in all these magazines when the guy did his Episode 1 Review (which is also great)

In all 6 star Wars reviews, everytime someone absorbs the lightning with their saber (well only in Ep 2 and 3) they always say...."man....someone REALLY should let Luke know about this: :funny:

love that

Also this from Episode 1...

"Finally DARTH MAUL shows up for a prolonged fight sequence.
Darth wears black boots, a black cloak, a black shirt, has a
red lightsaber, wears red and black face paint, and has
horns. He is EVIL."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
this is what I was talking about. my fave part of the MK2 Review....just gold.

MORTAL KOMBAT 2: ANNIHILATION: THE ABRIDGED SCRIPT™

EXT. SHAOLIN TEMPLE

ROBIN SHOU
Well, that’s over with! What a
relief! Wait a minute, who are you
people?

JAMES REMAR
I’m Rayden.

SANDRA HESS
No you’re not.

ROBIN SHOU
Who...?

SANDRA HESS
Sonya. New cast. Never mind.

ROBIN SHOU
Odd. The last movie made over $100
million. Why would most of the cast
bail on the sequel?

Suddenly this question is answered.

BRIAN THOMPSON
Muwahahaha!! Through a loophole in
the tournament rules, I’m taking
over your world! Now, meet my
menacing underlings!

MUSETTA VANDER
Sindel!

DERON MCBEE
Motaro!

MARJEAN HOLDEN
Sheeva!

Most of the AUDIENCE, thinking they’ve accidentally walked
into a POWER RANGERS movie, leaves.

Torontolynx
12-06-2005, 04:06:AM
EEENEEEYway. Just saw it today. Tied with ROTJ for the best one, in my opinion. I'm waiting for the DVD so I can see whether or not the Lizard really died...LOL.

but luke went to ask "your mother, your real mother" , no?
Liea THOUGHT that Organa was her real mother. She didn't know she was adopted...did she? If it was padme she was talking about...it wouldn't make ANY sense at all. :nape:

About Liea being a princess
She was the adopted daughter of the queen of Alderaan right? So that makes her a princess. I think...I may be wrong...that the woman (the good-guy senator's wife) is the queen.

the_thing
12-06-2005, 05:03:AM
not sure if this has been posted before but check out this trailer its hilarious!
http://www.flapdoodle.org/sw/SW_ep3_trailer_captioned.wmv