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23 November 2004
20:45 (CET) Old Trafford - Manchester

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Should be a great game. Last time the two met it was those two goals by Ruud that salvaged a point for United. Hopefully at OT we can settle the score and secure top spot in our group, and qualification to the next round!

My prediction is 3-1 to United, Giggs, Rooney and Smith with the goals :mrpimp:

1-1. Wiltord to be involved somehow in the goal. Ruud to poach one.

Originally posted by henry#14
1-1. Wiltord to be involved somehow in the goal. Ruud to poach one.

Wiltord is injured. ;)

European Cup game at Old Trafford = Goals. Ruud van Nistelrooij to get a hatrick and put pressure on Raul and I can't see us losing at Old Trafford unless Ferdinand were to pick up an injury. Gary Neville, Gabi Heinze and Cristiano Ronaldo were all rested at the weekend.

Lets hope Sir Alex Ferguson's 1000th match as manager of Manchester United FC is a special one.

United will win 3-0
giggs (1)
van Nistelrooy (2)

Originally posted by soccerbest
Wiltord is injured. ;)

haha well then Lyon are screwed. 3-1 United RvNx2, Smith

business asual for manutd 4-0 ruud again with 4 goals:p

2-0 man utd

rudd, scholes :rockman:

Man Utd 3-0 Lyon
RvN x2, Scholes

European game at OT.
forget losing and also forget any goal drought.
this will be our night and speciall Sir Alex ferguson's night.

6-0 to United.

Ruudx3
Ronaldo
Smith
Scholes

wiltord isnt injured anymore,

he played against PSG at weekend

5-1 United.

Rooney, Ronaldo, Scholes and van Nistelrooy sharing the goals.

(H)

It will be Scholes' 301th game, Giggs' 607th and Fergie's 1000th.

Those three were made for each other.(H)

Lyon are a quality side but without Elber and Wiltord they don't have enough quality on the offensive end.

2-0

Originally posted by manutd4eva
Those three were made for each other.(H)

:brow:

This is the match to be aired in the US hope its a good match.

man u 2-1

rooney, ruud pk:rockman:

4-0

ruud x2
rooney
scholes

(H)

4-1, United of course . . .

United 2-0 :)

Manchester United has to win again without a doubt.

Manchester 4

Lyon 1

manchester united - olympique lyonnais = 3-1

ruud ruud scholes - essien

Man utd 2 Lyon 0
RVN, Scholes

Giggs, Scholes have scored so its the time for Ronaldo to score. (H)
My prediction is United 3-0 Lyon
v. Nistelrooy
Rooney
Ronaldo

Lyon wins 2-0.

3-0 Man U
Rudd Hat Trick
Hes scoring like a fiend in europe

1-1 I think Lyon can hold them. :p

http://tinyurl.com/52lll

United training. glad to see the players enjoying it.

any live streams available for this match?

every one look so happy in the training :p

In the last two games this is the new formation we've been using. It's very confusing for opposition sides, with players moving all over the place.

------------Carroll--------------
Gazze-----Rio-----Mikey-----Heinze
---------------Keane--------------
--------Fletch---Scholes------------
Ronaldo/Rooney-----Rooney/Giggs
-----------------Ruud----------------

Hope to see it used on Tuesday again.(H)

Lyon would probably get run over.(H)

i think this formation is suit fletcher and scholes. both playing well this few games. certainly we need fletcher to have more experience. and a poor mistake he always did. losing ball at center. he should work harder on it. may be he can learn a lots from scholes ;)

3-1 to United

Man United v Lyon

Striker Louis Saha is Manchester United's only injury ahead of their Champions League tie with Lyon.
Saha has a knee injury, but with Ruud van Nistelrooy, Wayne Rooney, Alan Smith and David Bellion available, United have plenty of striking options.

For Lyon, Gregory Coupet, Claudio Cacapa, Giovane Elber have been ruled out of the game through injury.

Lyon have already secured a spot in the last 16 after their 4-2 win over Fenerbahce three weeks ago.

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Couple of injuries there to some of their players, so it should be a bit easier for us.(Y)

I expect United to perform well, a 2-0 win.

Originally posted by manutd4eva
In the last two games this is the new formation we've been using. It's very confusing for opposition sides, with players moving all over the place.

------------Carroll--------------
Gazze-----Rio-----Mikey-----Heinze
---------------Keane--------------
--------Fletch---Scholes------------
Ronaldo/Rooney-----Rooney/Giggs
-----------------Ruud----------------

Hope to see it used on Tuesday again.(H)

Lyon would probably get run over.(H)

from what i've seen, fletcher has been doing well :)

Originally posted by Stotty
from what i've seen, fletcher has been doing well :)

Unless you've shaved your brow, you won't have been seeing a lot :brow:

:sleep: :sleep:

your originality fascinates me

:(

4-0 Lyon ............ only in my dreams. :(

this game is on live tv here in the usa on espn2:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Ruud rips up record

RUUD van Nistelrooy is chasing legends and could force his way to the top of the European scoring charts this season.

The Old Trafford ace seems unstoppable, relentlessly ripping through the record books and Ryan Giggs believes his Manchester United team mate is on his way to Europe's pinnacle.

As United push for a place in the first knock-out phase of the Champions League against group leaders Olympique Lyon at Old Trafford on Tuesday, van Nistelrooy is edging ever closer to becoming the best all-time scorer in Europe's top competition.

The Dutch ace has left all his Manchester United predecessors trailing, smashing virtually every club scoring record since moving from PSV Eindhoven three years ago, and goes into the Lyon clash with only three players between him and Europe's top spot.

"Ruud's statistics in the Champions League are frightening really when you consider that he is coming up against Europe's top defenders, the top defenders in each league in different countries and consistently over the past four or five years he has scored goals," says Giggs.

Van Nistelrooy swept past Denis Law's 35-year-old club record in September when he rescued the Reds by scoring both goals in the 2-2 draw with Lyon in France to become the first Old Trafford player to score 30 goals in Europe.

Since then more legendary names have been left in his wake.

He has overtaken Hungarian genius Ferenc Puskas who scored 36 times for

Honved and Real Madrid half a century ago, and 37 goal German ace Gerd Muller the World Cup striker who helped Bayern Munich win the trophy in three consecutive seasons during the 1970s.

Van Nistelrooy's four goals against Sparta Prague in United's last Champions League outing took his personal tally to 43, eight scored during his days with PSV and an impressive 35 from 36 appearances with the Reds.

It also put him within reach of Eusebio, Sixties hero of Portugal and Benfica and it now looks like being a battle between van Nistelrooy and Real Madrid's Raul to see who can set new standards.

Raul took his overall total to 48 thanks to three goals this season and is just one behind all-time best Alfredo di Stefano the Argentinean who masterminded Madrid's domination of the European Cup in its early years. Van

Nistelrooy needs another four-goal flurry to put the pressure on the Spaniard and will be hoping to get on the score sheet against Lyon.

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He's surpassed some legends of the game, and getting closer to some more. I'll never understand the people who says he "****".

Lyon is the only team in our CL group that can makes us loose, im expecting a very difficult match for united, last match we almost lost thanks to our great keeper howard

Originally posted by manutd4eva
Ruud rips up record

RUUD van Nistelrooy is chasing legends and could force his way to the top of the European scoring charts this season.

The Old Trafford ace seems unstoppable, relentlessly ripping through the record books and Ryan Giggs believes his Manchester United team mate is on his way to Europe's pinnacle.

As United push for a place in the first knock-out phase of the Champions League against group leaders Olympique Lyon at Old Trafford on Tuesday, van Nistelrooy is edging ever closer to becoming the best all-time scorer in Europe's top competition.

The Dutch ace has left all his Manchester United predecessors trailing, smashing virtually every club scoring record since moving from PSV Eindhoven three years ago, and goes into the Lyon clash with only three players between him and Europe's top spot.

"Ruud's statistics in the Champions League are frightening really when you consider that he is coming up against Europe's top defenders, the top defenders in each league in different countries and consistently over the past four or five years he has scored goals," says Giggs.

Van Nistelrooy swept past Denis Law's 35-year-old club record in September when he rescued the Reds by scoring both goals in the 2-2 draw with Lyon in France to become the first Old Trafford player to score 30 goals in Europe.

Since then more legendary names have been left in his wake.

He has overtaken Hungarian genius Ferenc Puskas who scored 36 times for

Honved and Real Madrid half a century ago, and 37 goal German ace Gerd Muller the World Cup striker who helped Bayern Munich win the trophy in three consecutive seasons during the 1970s.

Van Nistelrooy's four goals against Sparta Prague in United's last Champions League outing took his personal tally to 43, eight scored during his days with PSV and an impressive 35 from 36 appearances with the Reds.

It also put him within reach of Eusebio, Sixties hero of Portugal and Benfica and it now looks like being a battle between van Nistelrooy and Real Madrid's Raul to see who can set new standards.

Raul took his overall total to 48 thanks to three goals this season and is just one behind all-time best Alfredo di Stefano the Argentinean who masterminded Madrid's domination of the European Cup in its early years. Van

Nistelrooy needs another four-goal flurry to put the pressure on the Spaniard and will be hoping to get on the score sheet against Lyon.

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He's surpassed some legends of the game, and getting closer to some more. I'll never understand the people who says he "****".

People are jealous that;s why they say he is ****

Man U will destroy!!!!!!! 4-0.

Originally posted by ngyc
i think this formation is suit fletcher and scholes. both playing well this few games. certainly we need fletcher to have more experience. and a poor mistake he always did. losing ball at center. he should work harder on it. may be he can learn a lots from scholes ;)

Agreed

3-1 to United...

RVN x2

Ronaldox1

:rolleyes:

First half should be tight but we should score first and then its game over(H) :mrpimp:


COME ON UNITED

Fletcher has come back strong, with him the team plays fresh

Carroll, Gary, Rio, Silvestre, Heinze, Smith Keano, Scholesey, Ronaldo, Rooney, Ruud

Fletcher on the bench,Giggs rested, Smith on the wing...

Surprised Darren has been left out, he has done nothing wrong, really. Ryan is not even on the bench.

Official line-up:

-----------------Carroll-----------------

G.Neville---Rio---Sylvestre---Heinze

Smith----Scholes----Keane--Ronaldo

-----Rooney-----Ruud---------------

Bench: Howard, Brown ,Bellion , Fletcher, O'shea, Djemba, Fortune

ryan has a thigh strain

Could Lyon's Juninho be the creative midfielder Man U need?

brown to come in? with 15 min? :confused:

YEAH!!!

GARY!!!

Hmmm.. I wonder if Ferguson is still going to substitute G.Neville

1-0


G. Neville :o

Bad defense.

neeeeeeville! 1-0 united

lol, that was hilarious! gary told the bench he'd stay on... and he scores right away!!!:D

Alan Smith as centre midfielder seems to work well

Oh, wow.



1-1


As big a blunder as Samuel's :rolleyes:

1-1 Diarra

:D

Blunder by Carroll.

Carrol what have you done!!!:f***:

Carroll :|

Lol Carroll (H)

put them away in the second half reds!:f***:

we've played pretty well up until carroll's mistake

Terrible blunder by Carroll, Lyon were clearly outclassed for most of that first half. We should still go on to win.(Y)

Man U will win!!

what carroll did? no live match at malaysia. someone explain please

Ruuuud with his 8th CL goal

The ball kind of flopped out of his hands.

2-1 RVN

Yeah!!!! Man U destroy Lyon. Come On!!!

Header by Ruud van Nistelrooy...GOAL !!! 53rd Min. ;)

Ruud just hit the post. That would've been gorgeous.

53 min. not 83 min

Originally posted by ngyc
53 min. not 83 min

Ohh...sorry...I couldn't Read my TV Good...:(

Full time 2-1 United!
Not the best of matches but im more then glad that we won :)

Now we can play against Fener without any concerns and score 6 goals again (H)

Good win for us, good all round performance.(Y)

Ruud gets his customary CL goal.(H)

are we qualified?

Yes.

thats great :fluffy: :fluffy:

the horseface just had to score! :f***:

Rio Ferdinand is no doubt world class and is finally living up to his enormous price tag, great setup for van Nistelrooij's goal. All keepers make mistakes and Carroll has only made one, Howard made a series of them so Fergie should stick with Carroll imo. Keane, Rooney, van Nistelrooy(particularly holding up the ball), Brown, Ferdinand, Silvestre, Scholes, Ronaldo were all class and Fletcher was alright too.

Better in the second half but Lyon are a very good team and should go quite far in the European Cup. Liverpool lost. Congrats Fergie.

(H)

I wish Ronaldo would cut the diving out of his game, he is class player and will eventually get a bad rep.. :confused:

Originally posted by fh_29
the horseface just had to score! :f***:

somebody scare ruud will brake raul record??haha...n real draw at home...haha...

man u won n qualify...yeah:rockman:

I hope we finish top.

Good game , both teams played good attacking football . Carrolls mistake was a shocker , but all goalkeepers make a mistake at some point. All the players played well except for Neville and Caroll. Essien was class for the Lyon though , we should look at him to replace Keane hes only 21.

Originally posted by MiCk_10
somebody scare ruud will brake raul record??haha...n real draw at home...haha...

man u won n qualify...yeah:rockman:

you have an easier group. Now go beat the hell out of Fenerbahce .... the team I hate even more than man utd (baca is most hated as always). :mrpimp:

Ruud bail us out :rockman: , could have another goal, shame it hit the post. :(


We are through to the last 16. (H)

Originally posted by fh_29
you have an easier group. Now go beat the hell out of Fenerbahce .... the team I hate even more than man utd (baca is most hated as always). :mrpimp:

just because they beat you guys 3-0 :confused:

We must finished top. I don't want to face top teams and get booted our before the QFs. I hope Spector and Pique play in the next match. A great oppurtunity to blood youngsters since I'm sure Fener would rest their players.

Originally posted by ngyc
just because they beat you guys 3-0 :confused:

heh, Man Utd fans shouldn't be talking .... especially after the horrible epl season you guys are having. Are your guys in the top 3 in epl? nope! :D I really hope man utd faces barca next round or the round after (that is if your team can make it), you guys will lose by more than 3 goals. (H)

Man Utd isn't gonna win crap.

Atleast we'll win the UEFA cup. (H)

now go and beat fener6ahce Man Utd..We want another 6 goal:D

Originally posted by diroix
now go and beat fener6ahce Man Utd..We want another 6 goal:D

:rockman:

Very enjoyable match to watch.. am pleased with our overall performace..
What I mostly noticed is that our defenders are attacking much more now.. only if Wes brown scored that goal (he improved a lottt :o )..
Glad to see RVN getting another goal.. It was united's 200th goal in europe if am not mistaken.. :rockman:
and Fergie's 1000th game :Bow: :Bow: :Bow: Legendary landmark..

Just another win for Manchester United.

Originally posted by fh_29
heh, Man Utd fans shouldn't be talking .... especially after the horrible epl season you guys are having. Are your guys in the top 3 in epl? nope! :D I really hope man utd faces barca next round or the round after (that is if your team can make it), you guys will lose by more than 3 goals. (H)

and you think real madrid is doing good, ronaldo is doing good??? even camacho quit in his first 3 matches, and after the 3 -0 win from barca, its clear who the winner of la liga will be.......even teams like getafe make real madrid worry

Ruud, jonge!

http://www.vi.nl/upload/178582_340_1097848697320-MauricoTejedorZaandam.jpg

That's awesome. (H)

Originally posted by manutd12
even teams like getafe make real madrid worry

we are 2nd in the league. Teams like Portsmouth can beat Man Utd.

Every team has their day. Barca beat Real, Wolves beat United last season. Anything can happen in football.

Its all part of football.

Originally posted by Bobby
Atleast we'll win the UEFA cup. (H)

Good on you that you realize where your team is heading.(Y)

About the match, I'd just like to say Wayne Rooney is gonna be one hell of a player!

Originally posted by manutd4eva
Good on you that you realize where your team is heading.(Y)


Yea, to cups, unlike you bitches (H)

(H)

Originally posted by Bobby
Yea, to cups, unlike you bitches (H)

funny that you actually want uefa cup more than CL.:crazyboy:

Originally posted by soccerbest
funny that you actually want uefa cup more than CL.:crazyboy:

By qualifying for the knockout phase man utd have eliminated themselves from any chance at silverwear.

****ski are gonna win the CL, i've pretty much resigned to that.

Originally posted by Bobby
By qualifying for the knockout phase man utd have eliminated themselves from any chance at silverwear.

****ski are gonna win the CL, i've pretty much resigned to that.

then by your logic you eliminate yourself in the CL. (H) Oh you probaly ****ed up in the uefa cup as well. :p

The only thing that will be won at Manchester United is the end of year raffle for some ham, and by the looks of it no one is going to beat Rooney to it.

We'll win the treble.(H)

That is.......

















...............League Cup.....




















..............FA Cup.........





























and, the Champions League.(H)

:(

Originally posted by fh_29
heh, Man Utd fans shouldn't be talking .... especially after the horrible epl season you guys are having. Are your guys in the top 3 in epl? nope! :D I really hope man utd faces barca next round or the round after (that is if your team can make it), you guys will lose by more than 3 goals. (H)

you better pray you guys can qualify for next phase (H)

Originally posted by shokz
Rio Ferdinand is no doubt world class and is finally living up to his enormous price tag, great setup for van Nistelrooij's goal. All keepers make mistakes and Carroll has only made one, Howard made a series of them so Fergie should stick with Carroll imo. Keane, Rooney, van Nistelrooy(particularly holding up the ball), Brown, Ferdinand, Silvestre, Scholes, Ronaldo were all class and Fletcher was alright too.

Better in the second half but Lyon are a very good team and should go quite far in the European Cup. Liverpool lost. Congrats Fergie.

(H)


shokz do you have the highlights of the game couldnt watch the game because of work

Originally posted by Rob
The only thing that will be won at Manchester United is the end of year raffle for some ham, and by the looks of it no one is going to beat Rooney to it.

:rofl:

Originally posted by Sheringham10
Very enjoyable match to watch.. am pleased with our overall performace..
What I mostly noticed is that our defenders are attacking much more now.. only if Wes brown scored that goal (he improved a lottt :o )..
Glad to see RVN getting another goal.. It was united's 200th goal in europe if am not mistaken.. :rockman:
and Fergie's 1000th game :Bow: :Bow: :Bow: Legendary landmark..

I agree it was enjoyable but I think Lyon played all the football, neater, slicker, nicer passing. Brown was more attacking but he is liable to make a mistake, and when defenders make a mistake, it's a goal. He did one last night and luckily united got the ball back, but it wasnt even mentioned, if they'd of scored from it, it would of been. Ferguson would of seen and remembered it of course, but I don't think painting over the cracks is gonna help.

But yeah, like I said it was a good game and im very glad United are through. I'd like to see them do well in the CL this year, well i'd love to see them win it. But like me and my mates were sayin, if a team like Madrid just about qualifies now on bad form, who's to say that come next year they're gonna be in the same form? They could be flighing by the time the quaters and semi's come around.

So could any other team, it'll be interestin to see how Barca are because right now they're in the form of their lives.

Well done United though :) And well done Ruud.

entertaining attacking football by both site. i wonder why we can't play up to this standard in EPL? :confused:

Originally posted by Amdy Faye
[B]I agree it was enjoyable but I think Lyon played all the football, neater, slicker, nicer passing./B]

We must have watched two different matches, because the match I saw, Lyon were outclassed for the most part. I'll agree they had their rare flashes of brilliance, but our performances were far more consistent throughout the match. Our passing and movement was some of the best I've seen this season. Neville, Brown and Ferdinand were a revelation going forward, and that added more to our attack.

Ferdinand must be gutted that he is the only defender in the First Four that has not scored yet this season. Nice assist, Rionaldo.

Originally posted by manutd4eva
We must have watched two different matches, because the match I saw, Lyon were outclassed for the most part. I'll agree they had their rare flashes of brilliance, but our performances were far more consistent throughout the match. Our passing and movement was some of the best I've seen this season. Neville, Brown and Ferdinand were a revelation going forward, and that added more to our attack.

agreed. some 1 or 2 touches passing are brilliant. players linkage are great as well