After seeing Barry Norman's (a British film critic) list of the 100 most important films of all time, I decided it might be a good idea to do my own. These are the 100 films I consider to be both the best and most important/influencial, in short, if I could only watch 100 films in my lifetime, these would be the films I would pick. As I thought that to be the most important films, it would have to contain a mixture of genres I have divided it into my favourite genres, containing the best 10 of each (except for Crime/Gangster and Drama which have 15 each and Misc and Historical which each have 5). They are in order from best to worst, though even the bottom ones are extremely great films, and just for the hell of it I added what is in my opinion the worst big film of each genre, films you might be tricked into watching. I hope to put them on a site with reasons for each choice, but til then, here it is:

Crime/Gangster

1. Kill Bill Vol 1+2 (Quentin Tarantino)
2. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino)
3. The Godfather 1+2 (Francis-Ford Coppola)
4. Miller's Crossing (The Coen Brothers)
5. Dead Man's Shoes (Shane Meadows)
6. The French Connection (William Friedkin)
7. Get Carter (Mike Hodges)
8. L.A. Confidential (Curtis Hanson)
9. The Usual Suspects (Brian Singer)
10. James Bond: Goldfinger (Guy Hamilton)
11. Sexy Beast (Johnathon Glazer)
12. Scarface (Brian DePalma)
13. Reservoir Dogs (Quentin Tarantino)
14. Dog Day Afternoon (Sidney Lumet)
15. The Day of the Jackal (Fred Zinnemann)


Worst: Donnie Brasko

Drama

1. Trainspotting (Danny Boyle)
2. The Shawshank Redemption (Frank Darabont)
3. The Silence of the Lambs (Johnathon Demme)
4. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman)
5. Cool Hand Luke (Stuart Rosenburg)
6. Coffee and Cigarettes (Jim Jarmusch)
7. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese)
8. Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese)
9. Easy Rider (Dennis Hopper)
10. Nashville (Robert Altman)
11. Fight Club (David Fincher)
12. Night on Earth (Jim Jarmusch)
13. Fargo (The Coen Brothers)
14. Being John Malkovich (Spike Jonze)
15. The Conversation (Francis-Ford Coppolla)

Worst: Lawrence of Arabia


Westerns

1. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Sergio Leone)
2. The Red River (Howard Hawks)
3. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (George Roy Hill)
4. Bad Day at Black Rock (John Sturges)
5. The Wild Bunch (Stan Peckinpah)
6. Once Upon a Time in The West (Sergio Leone)
7. The Magnificant Seven (John Sturges)
8. Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood)
9. Shane (George Stevens)
10. The Long Riders (Walter Hill)

Worst: Dances with Wolves

War

1. Dr. Strangelove [Cold War] (Stanley Kubrick)
2. Apocalypse Now [Vietnam] (Francis-Ford Coppolla)
3. Conspiracy [WW2] (Kenneth Branagh)
4. Full Metal Jacket [Vietnam] (Stanley Kubrick)
5. Schindler's List [WW2] (Steven Spielburg)
6. Paths of Glory [WW1] (Stanley Kubrick)
7. All Quiet on the Western Front [WW1] (Lewis Milestone)
8. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp [WW1+2] (Michael Powell)
9. Saving Private Ryan [WW2] (Steven Spielburg)
10. The Deer Hunter [Vietnam] (Michael Ciminio)

Worst: Born on the 4th of July

Foreign Language

1. 8 1/2 [Italy] (Federico Fellini)
2. El Topo [Spain] (Alejandro Jodorowsky)
3. Diva [France] (Jean-Jacques Bienieux)
4. La Strada [Italy] (Federico Fellini)
5. The Seventh Seal [Sweden] (Ingmar Bergman)
6. Amacourd [Italy] (Federico Fellini)
7. The Night of San Lorenzo [Italy] (The Taviani Brothers)
8. Kaos [Italy] (The Taviani Brothers)
9. The Tin Drum [Germany] (Volker Schlondorff)
10. The Seven Samurai [Japan] (Kurisawa)

Worst: Fellini's Roma

Vintage B&W

1. Mutiny on the Bounty (Frank Lloyd)
2. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles)
3. The 39 Steps (Alfred Hitchcock)
4. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock)
5. The Hustler (Robert Rossen)
6. The Maltese Falcon (John Huston)
7. Casablanca (Michael Curtiz)
8. The Third Man (Orson Welles)
9. To Kill a Mocking Bird (Robert Mulligan)
10. The Narrow Margin (Richard Fliescher)

Worst: The Old Dark House

Comedy

1. Monty Python's Life of Brian (Terry Jones)
2. The Big Lebowski (The Coen Brothers)
3. Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail (Terry Jones)
4. M*A*S*H (Robert Altman)
5. Blazing Saddles (Mel Brooks)
6. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (Terry Jones)
7. The Producers (Mel Brooks)
8. O Brother Where Art Thou? (The Coen Brothers)
9. Monty Python's And Now For Something Completely Different (Terry Jones)
10. The Parole Officer (John Duigan)

Worst: Scary Movie

Horror/Supernatural

1. From Dusk Til Dawn (Robert Rodriguez)
2. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)
3. Sleepy Hollow (Tim Burton)
4. A Clockwork Orange (Stanley Kubrick)
5. The Sixth Sense (M. Night Shyamalan)
6. The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi)
7. Verses (N/A)
8. Pirates of the Carribean (Gore Verbinski)
9. Interview with the Vampire (Niel Jordan)
10. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Tobe Hooper)

Worst: Jeepers Creepers


Misc

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey [Sci-fi] (Stanley Kubrick)
2. The Matrix [Sci-fi] (The Wachowski Brothers)
3. Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11 [Docufilm] (Michael Moore)
4. Flash Gordon [Fantasy] (Frederick Stephani)
5. Mad Max 2 - The Road Warrior [Sci-fi] (George Miller)


Worst: The Matrix Sequels

Historical

1. Barry Lyndon [Regency] (Stanley Kubrick)
2. Spartacus [Romans] (Stanley Kubrick)
3. Richard III [Tudors] (Lawrence Olivier)
4. Henry V [Medievil] (Kenneth Branagh)
5. Ceasar [Romans] (Channel 4)

Worst: King Arthur

PS: I bet I've missed out some so please point out anything you think should be there.

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
8. O Brother Where Art Thou? (The Coen Brothers)

I think this is my favorite movie ever!(H)

I've seen it like 100 times.:$ :(

btw, where's the porno selections?:(

i'm disgusted finding nemo isn't in calumn, cos that film......is legendry (H)!

Well for me, the best movie out at the moment, and the best movie i've seen in a while would have to be 'The Grudge'... Why isnt that on your list? :P

I definately agree Jeepers Creepers is the worst horror film i've ever seen.

But you listed some great movies i love like, Silence of the lambs, full metal jacket and from dusk til dawn/

Although, what is your reason for excluding classics like Me, Myself and Irene, American history X and Seven? :confused: Personal choice eh?

Yeah, that list is just my opinion really, I dont like Jim Carrey very much so Me, Myself and Irene isnt there, and I didnt think American History X was that good although Edward Norton was fantastic. I've never seen se7en.

I've never seen Finding Nemo, Nick. I dont really like that sort of film, though I might go see The Incredibles as it has been really highly rated.

No, Lord Of The Rings?:confused:

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
I've never seen Finding Nemo, Nick.

*crosses cOlumn off the christmas card list :(

Dances with Wolves a bad movie? :eek:

Don't have time right now to see the list properly but you missed Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind :mrpimp:

you're sick Calumn :f***: :p


awesome work :)

I can see you're not much into Fantasy/Sci-Fi, I would probably have lots more movies from those genres in my list :)

:p In what way am I sick? :D

Yeah, I dont like Sci-Fi/Fantasy very much, though there are a couple in the misc.

Being a big fan of the LOTR books, I dont like the films very much as I feel them too be very unfaithful - despite them being very well made. I'm surprised no-one's mentioned I missed out the Star Wars films yet aswell :p

As for Dances With Wolves, sorry but I found it one of the biggest, dullest and generally biggest waste-of-time I have ever seen. I know it was very popular and won a hell of alot of oscars, but I really didnt like it, despite being a massive fan of Westerns.

Originally posted by Stotty
i'm disgusted finding nemo isn't in calumn, cos that film......is legendry (H)!

Finding Nemo! (H)!

Nice too From Dusk till Dawn on there, that film is fantastic!

I also have a confession, I own a copy of Donnie Brasko :(

Originally posted by Ebonix
Finding Nemo! (H)!

Nice too From Dusk till Dawn on there, that film is fantastic!

I also have a confession, I own a copy of Donnie Brasko :( Me too :( I thought a gangster film with a cast containing Al Pacino, Johnny Depp and Michael Madsen was bound to be fantastic - how wrong I was.

I love From Dusk Til Dawn, one of my very favourite films. Richard Gecko is the only f*cked up, paedophile, serial murderer, sex offender and mental f*ck up that I aspire to :D

all the movies you stated as worst cannot even be considered as so.

Maybe overrated but certainly not worst. You haven't seen many movies throughout your life if you think they're the worst.


Dances with Wolves is a great movie. Probably the only good movie by Kevin Costner. I don't consider it as one of the best western ever, because it's not your traditional western, but nonetheless it was one of the most enjoyable and hearthwarming movie experiences about the differences of cultures I have ever seen.

ok....i've looked and looked but i just cant find the best movie that i have ever seen: CITY OF GOD!!!!! w/ out a doubt this is the best movie ever made(not really..its my fav. thought)....its a portuguese film about the crime and gangs of a brazilian city...i dont remember which one(rio de janeiro???)....but anyways the title of it is "CIUDAD DE DIOS":rockman:

Bonnsdock Saints is a great movie.

I reccomend it. :)

No Star Wars or Indiana?

Originally posted by ronnifan9
ok....i've looked and looked but i just cant find the best movie that i have ever seen: CITY OF GOD!!!!! w/ out a doubt this is the best movie ever made(not really..its my fav. thought)....its a portuguese film about the crime and gangs of a brazilian city...i dont remember which one(rio de janeiro???)....but anyways the title of it is "CIUDAD DE DIOS":rockman:

that's a brazilian movie actually.

Definitely one of the best movies ever (Y)

thax [virgo]..i knew it was brazilian (i mentioned rio de janeiro)...i was saying that the movie was in the portugese lenguage...but yeah [rusi] Boondock Saints was a bad@ass film...:mrpimp:

Originally posted by Callan
No Star Wars or Indiana?

yep. Indiana should probably be there though Calumn doesnt have a Adventure, Action, Sci-Fi or Fantasy categories. but its ok.

and about Calumn's worst selections, I think he meant them as overrated cause certanly you can do much, much wrong than those.

Yeah that is true, I mean, just look on IMDB for an example... if someone doesn't like a film suddenly it is 'the worst film ever made'... although it is pulp fiction or the sixth sense.... some people are really close minded. :rolleyes:

Anyone in here into those Japanese gorey/thriller flicks? (i.e. Battle Royale, Ichi the Killer, Suicide Club)?

City of God is defenitely the best non-english film ever made. In fact it's one of my favourite films, full stop.

Originally posted by Voltaic Borusse
Anyone in here into those Japanese gorey/thriller flicks? (i.e. Battle Royale, Ichi the Killer, Suicide Club)?

(Y)

I havent seen City of God, I will look it out though.

I did like Battle Royale, but it's not up with those other foreign films I metioned.

I didnt put the Indiana Jones films in because I dont really like them, they were OK the first time I watched them (except #2 which is awful) but the second time round they were just rather dull. I'm sure they have been very important and influencial, but not to my tastes at all.

Originally posted by Virgo
all the movies you stated as worst cannot even be considered as so.

Maybe overrated but certainly not worst. You haven't seen many movies throughout your life if you think they're the worst.


Dances with Wolves is a great movie. Probably the only good movie by Kevin Costner. I don't consider it as one of the best western ever, because it's not your traditional western, but nonetheless it was one of the most enjoyable and hearthwarming movie experiences about the differences of cultures I have ever seen. Of course they're not the worst films ever made, far far from it, but the point of that list was to give people a wide selection of great films from accross the genres. The films I singled out as worst are the films which seem to get bigged up alot, and which someone might be tricked into watching. I mean, on face value one would think Lawrence of Arabia to be one of the best films ever made, but it really isnt IMO, same with Dances with Wolves. There are far worse westerns than it, Denby and Open Range for example, but no-one going out to see the best films around would really be tricked into watching them, unlike Dances with Wolves which people might be.

I knew that would be very controversial, lots of people love it, but I personally think its a really bad film.

Originally posted by Virgo



Dances with Wolves is a great movie. Probably the only good movie by Kevin Costner. I don't consider it as one of the best western ever, because it's not your traditional western, but nonetheless it was one of the most enjoyable and hearthwarming movie experiences about the differences of cultures I have ever seen.

I'm a fairly big fan of this movie too, I don't really consider it a western either, if anything I'd call it a war-drama that happened to be set in that particular time period. But there are things I like and dislike about it though, for one I was impressed with how the Sioux culture was portrayed in a positive manner, as it was before European contact, which is actually pretty unheard of in movies like this that usually portray Native Amerindians in a more uncivilized role. I have family members, including my fiancee that are of Native descent so I usually have an extra interest in these things. I did have a problem with a couple things though....for one, despite wanting to break barriers and dispell stereotypes, I found it way too convienient and far-fetched that there just happened to be a white woman there to be Kevin Costner's love interest (still didn't want to cross the interracial barrier), and the fact that Kevin Costner's acting is usually pretty mediocre..

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman)

What a great movie, I watched it in my Psychology class not very long ago, awesome awesome movie (Y).

Wheres Forest Gump..!!!!! :(

its one of my fav movies :rockman: :rockman:

Amores Perros???
Y tu Mama Tambien???
Sexo Pudor y Lagrimas???
El Crimen del Padre Amaro???
....all great mexican films...i still havent seen Nicotina:(

Originally posted by ::shinji::
I'm a fairly big fan of this movie too, I don't really consider it a western either, if anything I'd call it a war-drama that happened to be set in that particular time period. But there are things I like and dislike about it though, for one I was impressed with how the Sioux culture was portrayed in a positive manner, as it was before European contact, which is actually pretty unheard of in movies like this that usually portray Native Amerindians in a more uncivilized role. I have family members, including my fiancee that are of Native descent so I usually have an extra interest in these things. I did have a problem with a couple things though....for one, despite wanting to break barriers and dispell stereotypes, I found it way too convienient and far-fetched that there just happened to be a white woman there to be Kevin Costner's love interest (still didn't want to cross the interracial barrier), and the fact that Kevin Costner's acting is usually pretty mediocre.. I agree I did think the detail they went into of the day to day Sioux life was good to watch, but I feel the film shows no genuine curiosity about the larger designs of the Sioux culture. I thought the script was very loose and disconnected, and I thought Costner directed like a man who's been an actor all his life rather than a pure director, making it quite clumsy. It just seems like a mix of genres (Western, War-Drama, Romance) taking just the worst bits from each. However, that's just my opinion, and I'm definately in a minority as the 12 oscar nominations suggest

Originally posted by $teauA
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman)

What a great movie, I watched it in my Psychology class not very long ago, awesome awesome movie (Y). Yeah, it really is an all time classic.

Originally posted by ronnifan9
Amores Perros???
Y tu Mama Tambien???
Sexo Pudor y Lagrimas???
El Crimen del Padre Amaro???
....all great mexican films...i still havent seen Nicotina:(

I have to admit, I'm much more into French and Italian arthouse cinema than Spanish/South American and thus I havent seen any of those films. I expect my Foriegn Language section appears very biased toward Italy and France.

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
in a minority as the 12 oscar nominations suggest

Titanic won 11 oscars therefore you're entitled to that opinion.

Originally posted by Virgo
Titanic won 11 oscars therefore you're entitled to that opinion. LMAO good point :p

i cant believe people are dissin donnie brasco!!! thought it was a great movie...the part where he wont take his shoes off in the restaraunt....that was a fantastic scene....it may not be as good as other gangster movies but its still by no means the WORST gangster movie ever....any one who hasnt seen it i suggest you give it a try

Originally posted by turnandcough
i cant believe people are dissin donnie brasco!!! thought it was a great movie...the part where he wont take his shoes off in the restaraunt....that was a fantastic scene....it may not be as good as other gangster movies but its still by no means the WORST gangster movie ever....any one who hasnt seen it i suggest you give it a try Sorry but I have to disagree with you there, unlike the other worst categories, in this one I actually do believe Donnie Brasko to be the worst of all. It was just so poor, I was expecting so much from such great actors, but there was nothing to it. The storyline was weak and dull (alright, they were sticking to a true story, maybe they shouldnt have been so rigid), the actors were cast in rolls that didnt suit them (they acted really well, but Pacino should not be cast as an old, useless hasbien and Depp should not be cast as someone who is meant to be inconspicuous and blend in), the multiple storylines were really rough around the edges, the whole thing was just a really, really poor film.

My friend you must see the movie AMADEUS, it is a damn classic!!

Whoa, I just looked it (Amadeus) up in the Virgin Film Guide and it has 5 stars. F. Murry Abraham is in it too whom I really like. I'll definately check it out - thanks bruv.

Originally posted by RUSI
Bonnsdock Saints is a great movie.

I reccomend it. :)

So do i ;)

I'm missing American Beauty and GoodFellas in the list :o

Other than that, I think it's a good list ;)

Haha, thanks. Gotta update it though as I've seen some more stuff lately.

With all due respect to your personal opinions.....

BraveHeart and GoodFellas plz

thank you

I didnt think much of Braveheart - very overated in my opinion.

I did enjoy Goodfellas, but didnt think it was spectacular, and certainly nothing like as good as Scorsese's early work.

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
I didnt think much of Braveheart - very overated in my opinion.

I did enjoy Goodfellas, but didnt think it was spectacular, and certainly nothing like as good as Scorsese's early work.

oh well its you list i guess :p

Yeah, just my opinion. Here's a list which is updated, though not complete yet. No Goodfellas or Braveheart though :p

Crime/Gangster

1. Kill Bill Vol 1+2 (Quentin Tarantino)
2. Pulp Fiction (Quentin Tarantino)
3. The Godfather 1+2 (Francis-Ford Coppola)
4. Miller's Crossing (The Coen Brothers)
5. Dead Man's Shoes (Shane Meadows)
6. The French Connection (William Friedkin)
7. Get Carter (Mike Hodges)
8. L.A. Confidential (Curtis Hanson)
9. The Usual Suspects (Brian Singer)
10. James Bond: Goldfinger (Guy Hamilton)
11. Sexy Beast (Johnathon Glazer)
12. Scarface (Brian DePalma)
13. Reservoir Dogs (Quentin Tarantino)
14. Dog Day Afternoon (Sidney Lumet)
15. The Day of the Jackal (Fred Zinnemann)


Worst: Donnie Brasko

Drama

1. Amadeus (Milos Foreman)
2. Trainspotting (Danny Boyle)
3. The Shawshank Redemption (Frank Darabont)
4. Easy Rider (Dennis Hopper)
5. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Milos Forman)
6. Cool Hand Luke (Stuart Rosenburg)
7. Coffee and Cigarettes (Jim Jarmusch)
8. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese)
9. Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese)
10. The Silence of the Lambs (Johnathon Demme)
11. Nashville (Robert Altman)
12. Fight Club (David Fincher)
13. Night on Earth (Jim Jarmusch)
14. Fargo (The Coen Brothers)
15. The Conversation (Francis-Ford Coppolla)

Worst: Lawrence of Arabia


Westerns

1. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Sergio Leone)
2. The Red River (Howard Hawks)
3. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (George Roy Hill)
4. Bad Day at Black Rock (John Sturges)
5. The Wild Bunch (Stan Peckinpah)
6. Once Upon a Time in The West (Sergio Leone)
7. The Magnificant Seven (John Sturges)
8. Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood)
9. Shane (George Stevens)
10. The Long Riders (Walter Hill)

Worst: Dances with Wolves

War

1. Dr. Strangelove [Cold War] (Stanley Kubrick)
2. Apocalypse Now [Vietnam] (Francis-Ford Coppolla)
3. Conspiracy [WW2] (Kenneth Branagh)
4. Full Metal Jacket [Vietnam] (Stanley Kubrick)
5. Schindler's List [WW2] (Steven Spielburg)
6. Paths of Glory [WW1] (Stanley Kubrick)
7. All Quiet on the Western Front [WW1] (Lewis Milestone)
8. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp [WW1+2] (Michael Powell)
9. Saving Private Ryan [WW2] (Steven Spielburg)
10. The Deer Hunter [Vietnam] (Michael Ciminio)

Worst: Born on the 4th of July

Foreign Language

1. 8 1/2 [Italy] (Federico Fellini)
2. El Topo [Spain] (Alejandro Jodorowsky)
3. Diva [France] (Jean-Jacques Bienieux)
4. La Strada [Italy] (Federico Fellini)
5. The Seventh Seal [Sweden] (Ingmar Bergman)
6. Amacourd [Italy] (Federico Fellini)
7. The Night of San Lorenzo [Italy] (The Taviani Brothers)
8. Kaos [Italy] (The Taviani Brothers)
9. The Tin Drum [Germany] (Volker Schlondorff)
10. The Seven Samurai [Japan] (Kurisawa)

Worst: Fellini's Roma

Vintage B&W

1. Mutiny on the Bounty (Frank Lloyd)
2. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles)
3. The 39 Steps (Alfred Hitchcock)
4. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock)
5. The Hustler (Robert Rossen)
6. The Maltese Falcon (John Huston)
7. Casablanca (Michael Curtiz)
8. The Third Man (Orson Welles)
9. Kind Hearts and Coronets (Robert Hamer)
10. The Killing (Stanley Kubrick)

Worst: The Old Dark House

Comedy

1. Monty Python's Life of Brian (Terry Jones)
2. The Big Lebowski (The Coen Brothers)
3. Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail (Terry Jones)
4. M*A*S*H (Robert Altman)
5. Blazing Saddles (Mel Brooks)
6. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (Terry Jones)
7. Withnail & I (Bruce Robinson)
8. O Brother Where Art Thou? (The Coen Brothers)
9. Monty Python's And Now For Something Completely Different (Terry Jones)
10. How to get Ahead in Advertising (Bruce Robinson)

Worst: Scary Movie

Horror/Supernatural

1. From Dusk Til Dawn (Robert Rodriguez)
2. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)
3. Sleepy Hollow (Tim Burton)
4. A Clockwork Orange (Stanley Kubrick)
5. The Sixth Sense (M. Night Shyamalan)
6. The Evil Dead (Sam Raimi)
7. Verses (N/A)
8. Pirates of the Carribean (Gore Verbinski)
9. Interview with the Vampire (Niel Jordan)
10. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Tobe Hooper)

Worst: Jeepers Creepers


Misc

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey [Sci-fi] (Stanley Kubrick)
2. The Matrix [Sci-fi] (The Wachowski Brothers)
3. Michael Moore's Farenheit 9/11 [Docufilm] (Michael Moore)
4. Flash Gordon [Fantasy] (Frederick Stephani)
5. Mad Max 2 - The Road Warrior [Sci-fi] (George Miller)


Worst: The Matrix Sequels

Historical

1. Barry Lyndon [Regency] (Stanley Kubrick)
2. Spartacus [Romans] (Stanley Kubrick)
3. Richard III [Tudors] (Lawrence Olivier)
4. Hotel Rwanda [Modern Hist] (Terry George)
5. The Draughtsman's Contract [Regency] (Peter Greenaway)

Worst: King Arthur

awesome list Calumn.
I would have an Action/Adventure category for stuff like Pirates of the Carribean and a Dramedy category too for stuff thats not drama nor comedy.
but great list (Y)

Originally posted by CalumnCFC
I didnt think much of Braveheart - very overated in my opinion.


Your english yeah?

Doesnt surprise me... they hate this movie... I wonder why. :rolleyes:

thats a good point :p

:o

Worst (or most overrated) drama was Lawrence of Arabia? Maybe im a poor judge of talent, but i thought the visuals, humanism, and in particular, the portayl of O'Toole of Lawrence as a disturbed, unfullfilled, and at times, neurotic hero was great. Maybe im missing something, but when he comes out of the desert with the man they had written off as dead on his camel, with that huge screen canvas of a blue and kahki desert scape (I thought the visual element of this movie was incredible) and the arabs stare in amazement as he tells them "nothing is written", well, i get a chill up my spine just thinking about that scene.

Edit: dont get me wrong, im not trying to question someones opinion, im just trying to get a few "film buff" perspectives on it.

Oh, and to add my lot into the Braveheart thing, i thought it was a good movie, but anything done by Mel Gibson that is at all historical, while entertaining, well, i sort of :rolleyes: at its accuracy

I loved Braveheart. everything about it.
I even thought Gladiator was a Braveheart-ish movie set in Rome but at that time I hadnt seen Braveheart in a long time and I actually havent seen it in a long time. waiting for some special edition dvd which I know you UK people have but dont. just a boneless single disc :(

I have yet to see Braveheart, I might check it out this week. It is pretty long though (177 minutes).

Originally posted by Hakeem
I loved Braveheart. everything about it.
I even thought Gladiator was a Braveheart-ish movie set in Rome but at that time I hadnt seen Braveheart in a long time and I actually havent seen it in a long time. waiting for some special edition dvd which I know you UK people have but dont. just a boneless single disc :(

That's exactly right, Gladiator was not that good of a film I don't think. Braveheart was very good indeed. I have the special edition, we have it here in australia. It has 2 disks, it isn't really that much however, there is just some doco about the film that is bad quality and lasts for less than an hour. The only reason I bought it was because it was 14 dollars.

I heard the commentary by Mel Gibson and the producers or something was really good. like not the usual 'thats a great actress, she's so cute, and that guy is great too'. like mel and whoever he's talking too really got into a conversation about the movie and its actually entertaining to listen to them.

Originally posted by Callan
Your english yeah?

Doesnt surprise me... they hate this movie... I wonder why. :rolleyes: Haha, bang on :p

I thought Gladiator was much better than it personally, mind you, there are certain films I hate which everyone else seems to love, like this, Dances with Wolves and Lawrence of Arabia.

Originally posted by TheBlueBalla
:o

Worst (or most overrated) drama was Lawrence of Arabia? Maybe im a poor judge of talent, but i thought the visuals, humanism, and in particular, the portayl of O'Toole of Lawrence as a disturbed, unfullfilled, and at times, neurotic hero was great. Maybe im missing something, but when he comes out of the desert with the man they had written off as dead on his camel, with that huge screen canvas of a blue and kahki desert scape (I thought the visual element of this movie was incredible) and the arabs stare in amazement as he tells them "nothing is written", well, i get a chill up my spine just thinking about that scene. I dont know, for a start, I didnt find it remotely to my tastes, which doesn't help. Peter O'Toole was great in it, but I didnt think Alec Guiness and Anthony Quinn, whom I otherwise think are fantastic, gave it their all, and all in all I didnt think it was a particularly interesting storyline. The desert camerawork was amazing of course, but I just didnt think the film in general was very special. The best scene in my opinion was where Omar Sharif first arrives, when he shoots the arab who has been drinking at the well, that scene I did think was really well done and very memorable.

Yah, i suppose you do make a good point callum: with the story and those actors, it could have been much better. And yah, that scene was great, definately not the typical "cultural misunderstanding" scene that many movies had. But O'Toole i thought was fantastic, just the way he was able to capture the character from time to time (for example, the point where he said "they will come for me" and looked almost drugged up and distracted. I dunno, maybe im just thinking it was great cause its considered a "classic" :p

I agree that it's a decent film, I just think it's quite overrated - it has the reputation of being a classic masterfilm which I dont think it deserves. Peter O'Toole's performance is very, very good, the best in his career, but then, I think Sir Ben Kingsley's performance in Gandhi is magnificant but I still dont like the film very much. To me, a film is great not necessarily because of the acting and an acting performance is great not necessarily because of the film. However, please remember I am in a massive minority and 95% of the film going population probably agree with you that Lawrence of Arabia is a brilliant film.

^^Have you checked out 'Requiem For A Dream?' I ask this because you have 'Trainspotting' on your list, which in my opinion is inferior to 'Requiem...' - probably the best drug related movie ever.

where's the lotr trilogy? :o

and to say the matrix sequels were the worst sci fi movies...well lets just say i heavily disagree with that statement. but that's your opinion, i respect that
overall a pretty thorough list..good stuff!:)

lotr trilogy = Lord of the Rings


agree about Requiem being a better movie about drugs than Trainspotting.
Im not sure if Id say its a better movie overall though (:/)

^Yes (lords of the rings)

however just going over war films again. I think Kelly's Heroes
(dunno if this should be comedy or war), The Dirty Dozen, Where Eagles Dare (enjoyable) and Casualties of War should be there too.

And yes, NO ANIMATED ONES??

Dying without watching all the classics like Lion King, Toy Story 1/2, Finding Nemo, Ice Age, Aladin, Prince of Egypt, and others, is totally worthless! :nape:

lotr trilogy = Lord of the Rings


agree about Requiem being a better movie about drugs than Trainspotting.
Im not sure if Id say its a better movie overall though (:/)
Trainspotting shows the social side of drugs and this film is deeper. when i ask someone about Requiem for a dream they say something like "it is a film where some addict's hand was cut off, isn't it?":)

- The Lord of the Rings films arent there because I dont like them very much - good films but I was a massive fan of the book and I feel the films really dont do it justice.

- With the Matrix Sequels, as I said my worst picks arent actually the worst but are the films I think people are most likely to think are good, even though they arent. I'm trying to save people wasting their time and money with overrated films.

- Still havent seen Requiem for a Dream but I very much doubt it will beat Trainspotting, I love that film.

- I have seen all those war films but the only one I thought was fairly decent was The Dirty Dozen, it would probably be 11 or 12 on that list.

- I just cant enjoy animated films, I like the ones I loved as a kid (eg Toy Story) for sentimental value but unlike a lot of teenagers/adults, I find it impossible to look on them as good films.

'Requiem for a Dream' is an amazing movie. I don't know for sure if you would like it more than 'Trainspotting' but i personally do.

I guess it is a question of preference but my list would definitely have the 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy in there and some animated films.

I totally agree at Born on the 4th of July as the worse war, I still haven't managed to sit through the entire film. There should be more Hitchcock though.

I don't understand why 'Dusk till Dawn' is on there.... Oh and you're list needs to be 'Japped' up a bit. I only see 26 names. :) what about The league of Gentlemen (1959), or Italian Job (old)?? and there;s no ''Pi'' or ''Fear and loathing in las vegas'' ..or T2 :rolleyes:

some movies are just too weird that I cant put them in a category. like ''Fear and loathing in las vegas'', what is it? just a comedy?
I still havent been able to watch PI but I want to.
The Italian Job from 1969 wasnt as good as the new one IMO. It had great parts, but it was way sillier (sp?) and the ending was :|

- I absolutely loved the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter Thompson is one of my very favourite authors, but I thought the film didnt do it justice and was pretty poor on the whole, so the acting was impeccable.

- Hakeem - I cannot believe you prefer the new Italian Job to the original! The new one is an americanised plagaristic piece of sellout sh!t compared to a classic. Maybe it's just cos I'm British, but I love the original Italian Job, watch it every time it comes on TV. The sillyness is wonderful in my opinion and the cliffhanger ending superb! An absolute classic.

I dont know. maybe it was cause I watched it first. and I really liked all the actors in the new one, while in the british one there were too many characters and I couldnt really concentrate in them except for Michael Caine (and what was benny hill doing there? funny, but totally random scenes).

- I absolutely loved the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter Thompson is one of my very favourite authors, but I thought the film didnt do it justice and was pretty poor on the whole, so the acting was impeccable.
i expected a lot from this film, but after seeing it i was disappointed: good play by Depp and Del Toro and that's all:(

- I absolutely loved the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter Thompson is one of my very favourite authors, but I thought the film didnt do it justice and was pretty poor on the whole, so the acting was impeccable.

Unfortunatley I've not gotten around to reading the book, but it's on my to-do-list (which seems to be getting forever longer :nape: )

I'd definitely have Warriors in my all time movie list, and Close Encounters of the Third Kind...and Platoon, if for nothing else then for the soundtrack at least ( hmm a very long misc. list)

Full Metal Jacket ... one of my all time fav movies !
Crime/Gangster ... No list is complete without The Untouchables :ewan:
Western .. Lonesome Dove
what about Raiders of the Lost Ark ?? Back to the future !!!

Italian Job - I thought Benny Hill was awesome in it - added a lot. Some of the actors were quite regular faces in films which only British people seem to have seen, Ealing Comedies and such like, but I thought they all did a good job. It's more a fun film than a good one, like The Great Escape.

Fear and Loathing - Yup, like Bonzi said, the film was a let down. As much as I love Terry Gilliam, its not really his line of work. aftab, I highly recommend the book (though it's not Thompson's best), I bet you will see the film differently after it.

Untouchables - An easy-to-watch film, but a load of bollocks as far as history is concerned. I hate the thought that some people might think that's what actually happened, plus I am not a big fan of Kevin Costner or Andy Garcia.

I also think the Indiana Jones films are overrated - alright the first time but after that they are pretty dull, and the second one (Temple of Doom??) is really, really bad.

I also think the Indiana Jones films are overrated - alright the first time but after that they are pretty dull, and the second one (Temple of Doom??) is really, really bad.
maybe the Indiana Jones films are overrated but they are still the best adventure movies imo

You obviously havent seen The Treasure of Sierra Madre :p