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knowledge
06-12-2004, 06:10:AM
I have to study abroad as a requirement for my college Honors Program. I figured this would be the best place to ask this. I'm a BIG Arsenal and I like AC Milan as well, and I was wondering which would be harder to get tickets for to see a game. The whole damn point of the study abroad experience is to experience other cultures so I said **** it. I'll be there for a semester (right not maybe next year actually). How hard would it be to get tickets for either team and what would I have to do to maybe order them in advance?

Rocky
06-12-2004, 09:52:AM
easier tickets-Arsenal

Better football(hate to say it:f***: ) AC milan

Walkeranz
06-12-2004, 10:01:AM
I lived in Italy two years. It's easy as hell to get tickets. I never had a problem except with the derbys and champions league matches. I recomend Italy anyway, learn another language, the food, the people, the WOMEN! dear God the women. go to Italy, you will not regret it. Damn, the WOMEN!

Vagegast
06-12-2004, 10:03:AM
You and about 5,000 friends can eaily get tickets for any game in Italy.

ronnifan9
06-12-2004, 10:06:AM
Mexico:mexican: ....i would just pick England (cause learning Italian would irritate me....eventhough it has its similarities to spanish)........as for the better football: Arsenal....but AC Milan has one of my favorites=Kaka(Y)
..........but it is very true, ITALIAN WOMEN would be reason enough for me to choose Italy....too bad i wouldnt know what to say:( ...................England>Italy

Rob
06-12-2004, 10:07:AM
You will have little chance of getting tickets to see Arsenal unless you have a bottomless pocket.

Bobby
06-12-2004, 10:55:AM
Yea, until the new stadium goes up it's going to be pretty hard.

bjmenge
06-12-2004, 10:58:AM
He could probably see Arsenal away. Or are all the EPL grounds always sold out?

Thelonious
06-12-2004, 10:58:AM
Originally posted by italianstallion
easier tickets-Arsenal


no , nearly all the seats at highbury are taken by season ticket holders , I dont think you'd have any chance of seeing a game there.

Bobby
06-12-2004, 11:00:AM
Originally posted by bjmenge
He could probably see Arsenal away. Or are all the EPL grounds always sold out?

Pretty much everywhere but Blackburn, usually.

bjmenge
06-12-2004, 11:02:AM
Oh, I thought maybe Charlton or Palace might have seats available.

claupastore
06-12-2004, 09:46:PM
theres nothing to see in england :crazyboy:
on the other hand, in italy you have the food and the women, and also the food, and hwo culd i forget the women! and the food its great too.
and it goes like this juve > milan > arsenal :p
also if you like history there are tons of places to visit in italy...roma, venezia, milano, torino, firenze, napoli....

PI-AIR 17
06-12-2004, 09:47:PM
Italy!!!!!!!

Dan the monkey
06-12-2004, 09:56:PM
Italy, unless you like cold and wet weather.

claupastore
06-12-2004, 10:00:PM
yea that too!
England: the place forgotten by the sun (H)

enigma
06-12-2004, 10:05:PM
Well I'm on holiday in England right now and I must say it's a brilliant country. People here are nice. :p

Juventino
06-12-2004, 10:08:PM
People in Italy are even nicer. :p Like me! :crazyboy: j/k.

Italy is a great country. I love it. The culture, the ladies (don't we all love the old women :mrpimp::p ) Everything.

BTW - Come to Torino, It's even easier to get tickets for Juve. :rolleyes: For you, and your 40,000 friends.

enigma
06-12-2004, 10:10:PM
I don't know how hard it is to get tickets to games in Italy but I've had no luck with Arsenal games. Yes, I have been trying. I looked it up 2 months ago, ******* ****s wanted to sell them to me for 200 squid. Heh. I'm Asian but I'm sure as hell not stupid. :p

shokz
06-12-2004, 10:15:PM
Just turn up on match day, there will probably be left overs at the ticket office.

enigma
06-12-2004, 10:20:PM
Originally posted by shokz
Just turn up on match day, there will probably be left overs at the ticket office.

Huh? For real? I'm willing to pay no more than 50 quid, you think I've got any chance?

shokz
06-12-2004, 10:27:PM
I'd only recommend it if you live in North London though and you would probably have to get there as early as possible before the few leftovers are snapped up by everyone else.

There are usually a few hundred leftovers at Old Trafford(If we're playing a small diddy team) because some ST/LMTB holders cannot always make it or the away team don't sell all of their allocation. But you've got to get there early.

enigma
06-12-2004, 10:35:PM
Fudge it. I'm all the way in Cambridge.

knowledge
06-12-2004, 10:52:PM
Originally posted by Bobby
Yea, until the new stadium goes up it's going to be pretty hard.

See I guess thats a part of the problem. I kinda wanted to see Highbury before they don't use it anymore.

dannyeli
06-12-2004, 11:17:PM
Originally posted by claupastore

and it goes like this juve > milan > arsenal :p
also if you like history there are tons of places to visit in italy...roma, venezia, milano, torino, firenze, napoli....

please :rolleyes: there's more people in an indoor soccer game than at Delle Alpi.

The atmosphere at San Siro is WAY better !!!!

TOON ARMY
06-12-2004, 11:29:PM
Originally posted by enigma
Fudge it. I'm all the way in Cambridge.

Go and watch Cambridge United, food there is top class.

You can't go wrong.

claupastore
07-12-2004, 12:42:AM
Originally posted by dannyeli
please :rolleyes: there's more people in an indoor soccer game than at Delle Alpi.

The atmosphere at San Siro is WAY better !!!!

and who said anything about the delle alpi?

dannyeli
07-12-2004, 01:18:AM
juve>milan> arsenal....... refering to what is best, and the guy is asking what games-tickets to go ;)

bigp
07-12-2004, 01:27:AM
Originally posted by knowledge
See I guess thats a part of the problem. I kinda wanted to see Highbury before they don't use it anymore.

Go to bigsoccer.com
then go to the Arsenal forums and look for a poster named rickbreese. He always helps people get Arsenal tickets.

Enigma. You should message him ASAP since you're already in England and it would be easier for you 2 to hook up.

claupastore
07-12-2004, 01:31:AM
Originally posted by dannyeli
juve>milan> arsenal....... refering to what is best, and the guy is asking what games-tickets to go ;)

juve>milan> arsenal

talking bout which is the better team, not bout getting tickets. because before my post someone said that if he wanted to watch a better team than arsenal then he should watch milan, but juve is better than both of those :crazyboy:

Vagegast
07-12-2004, 01:40:AM
Originally posted by claupastore
on the other hand, in italy you have the food and the women, and also the food, and hwo culd i forget the women! and the food its great too. Don't forget the empty stadiums.

claupastore
07-12-2004, 01:42:AM
Originally posted by Vagegast
Don't forget the empty stadiums.

dont forget we have zlatan

:rolleyes:


seriously, nobody cares about one stadium being empty. we dont care, why should you care?

santino
07-12-2004, 01:54:AM
Originally posted by claupastore
hwo culd

as you all see, clau gets excited when thinking of women

Bobby
07-12-2004, 01:59:AM
They shouldn't show the match on local TV if the stadium is that empty.

Yossarian
07-12-2004, 02:02:AM
Follow your dreams of becoming a professional golfer and move to Prince Edward Island, man.

manutd4eva
07-12-2004, 02:02:AM
Originally posted by Bobby
They shouldn't show the match on local TV if the stadium is that empty.

(Y)

Pizarro14
07-12-2004, 02:15:AM
i love the stadium in Torino but doesn't it suck when theres no fans seeing a awesome team? seriously come on it sucks to see the players wanting to wave at fans. but hey the stadium is the perfect place to throw a futbol party with maybe 50 friends (H)!!!

Vagegast
07-12-2004, 02:25:AM
Originally posted by claupastore
dont forget we have zlatan :rolleyes: You're a lucky guy. But how is this relevant?seriously, nobody cares about one stadium being empty. we dont care, why should you care? Well, I certainly do. Don't be offended so fast. We are comparing Italy with England so it's a fair point to bring up: I've rarely seen a game in England that hasn't had full-house attendance while in Italy it's rarely attended except for derbies and the like.

claupastore
07-12-2004, 02:36:AM
Originally posted by santino
as you all see, clau gets excited when thinking of women

who doesnt :D

santino
07-12-2004, 02:40:AM
Originally posted by claupastore
who doesnt :D

Good point(H)

TOON ARMY
07-12-2004, 03:56:AM
Originally posted by Vagegast
I've rarely seen a game in England that hasn't had full-house attendance while in Italy it's rarely attended except for derbies and the like.

Plus it's much cheaper to watch Italian football :o

dannyeli
07-12-2004, 04:41:AM
Milan games are almost full every game :)

santino
07-12-2004, 04:52:AM
go to a roma game

chances are you'll get a free lighter:crazyboy:

RonaldinhoBR10
07-12-2004, 04:57:AM
ive been to italy and england and italy was very easy to get tickets and in england it was not very hard but it was much harder than italy

go to italy

its much better!!!

enigma
07-12-2004, 04:59:AM
Originally posted by RonaldinhoBR10
its much better!!!

Reasons?

RonaldinhoBR10
07-12-2004, 05:02:AM
the football in italy is just better and lkike everyone else said the women are like 1000000000000 times better than the women in england and the food there is just..............tooooo gooood

their pizza is unbelievable

santino
07-12-2004, 05:04:AM
well....that settle's that discussion


Italy > [insert anything here]


(H)

dannyeli
07-12-2004, 05:06:AM
Italy = Spain (at other things, not football, italy > spain in football) > everyone else.... (in europe :crazyboy: )

santino
07-12-2004, 05:25:AM
Danny, if u stop typing right now.....you won't look like an idiot:crazyboy:

PI-AIR 17
07-12-2004, 05:25:AM
Italy and Spain are much better than england

claupastore
07-12-2004, 08:52:AM
but italy rules them all!
bow motherfúckers, bow!
(H)

and venezuela comes in a close second :crazyboy:

Pizarro14
07-12-2004, 09:28:AM
venezuela=baseball DEAL WITH IT (H)

claupastore
07-12-2004, 09:53:AM
i like baseball :p

dannyeli
07-12-2004, 01:28:PM
all venezuelans like baseball... that nature in us :mrpimp: But i agrre with Clau, venezuela is very close.........





















































by an inch :crazyboy: :rockman:

TOON ARMY
07-12-2004, 09:31:PM
Originally posted by RonaldinhoBR10
the football in italy is just better and lkike everyone else said the women are like 1000000000000 times better than the women in england and the food there is just..............tooooo gooood

their pizza is unbelievable

How can you say Italian football is better? They just defend defend defend defend defend and more defending!

We have the best free flowing attacking and entertaining football in Europe!

Hands down!!

Plus the premiership teams fill their grounds most of the time and it's not like sitting in a morgue.

claupastore
07-12-2004, 09:40:PM
EPL sucks salty balls and its a known fact ;)

Juventino
07-12-2004, 09:41:PM
Originally posted by TOON ARMY
How can you say Italian football is better? They just defend defend defend defend defend and more defending!

We have the best free flowing attacking and entertaining football in Europe!

Hands down!!

Plus the premiership teams fill their grounds most of the time and it's not like sitting in a morgue.
If you would actually watch Italian football you would see that in Italy they defend as much as they do in England.

Defences in England just suck, makes it a bit more entertaining.

shokz
07-12-2004, 10:07:PM
I still rate Italian football above English football because more teams in Italy know how to defend against the big teams. In England only Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal have top class defences. Many(not all) other teams just sit back against the big guns with ten men and don't bother coming out until they concede.

TOON ARMY
07-12-2004, 10:29:PM
Originally posted by shokz
I still rate Italian football above English football because more teams in Italy know how to defend against the big teams. In England only Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal have top class defences. Many(not all) other teams just sit back against the big guns with ten men and don't bother coming out until they concede.

Surely when you go to a football match you want value for your money? We get plenty of high scoring games in England which i feel gives better value for money than watching a more technical game which often finishes with a draw. Ok maybe the Italians prefer to watch a more technical game.

I'll rephrase my initial sentence. English football isn't necessarily better but it's far more entertaining, IMO.

Juventino
07-12-2004, 11:13:PM
On average last season there were slightly more goals in Serie A matches then in Premierleague matches. ;)

TOON ARMY
08-12-2004, 12:02:AM
Originally posted by Juventino
On average last season there were slightly more goals in Serie A matches then in Premierleague matches. ;)

I suggest you do your maths again:

Serie A - 816 goals for divided by 18 = 45.3 as an average
Premierleague - 1012 goals for divided by 20 = 51 as an average

;)

enigma
08-12-2004, 12:05:AM
I don't know, in terms of entertainment I'd say EPL wins by miles. Technically the football in Spain and Italy are better.

santino
08-12-2004, 12:14:AM
Originally posted by TOON ARMY
How can you say Italian football is better? They just defend defend defend defend defend and more defending!

In 160 games the EPL have scored a total of 420 goals

In 140 games the Serie A have scored a total of 340 goals

that's not to far off considering the EPL have 20 more games played

Also......

In 160 games the EPL have an average of 2.64 goals per match

In 140 games the Serie A have an average of 2.42 Goals per match

that leaves us with a 0.22 average goals difference, that's also not to far off, and the EPL have 20 more games played

wow, the Serie A is very defensive indeed:kader:


In conlcusion.....the Serie A is not defensive, we just have more competition:)

if you don't believe me: http://www.soccerstats.com/

TOON ARMY
08-12-2004, 12:33:AM
You can throw all the stats you want at me. My point is the Italian game has more of an emphasis on defending. Slow build up play, sitting on goal leads, etc

The English game is much quicker with a greater emphasis on getting the ball into the back of the net, the whole point of football.

Therefore the English game is more entertaining and i get much better value for my money IMO.

santino
08-12-2004, 12:36:AM
but then again, what kind of idiots would think there's a tactical and strategic point to soccer which could help get the ball in the back of the net

oh yea, the team that won 3 world cups doing it:)

Juventino
08-12-2004, 12:40:AM
Originally posted by TOON ARMY
I suggest you do your maths again:



Ah well, was wrong on that one. Saw on an other site that Italian matches had slight more goals.

But like Santino said, the difference is minimal. It does annoy me when it keeps getting labelled defensive, because that's the old stereotype.

mega montana
08-12-2004, 03:29:AM
ain't nothing wrong with being labeled defensive, you are supposed to stop the other team from scoring, no?

Anyway, i've enjoyed watching serie a this year, i find it entertaining because smaller teams are no walkover for the bigger clubs.

A question for Juve fans though, why so many empty seats? Is it because the seats are so far away from the pitch? Games readily available on TV?

I'd think a team that has the talent of Juve, the fans would flock in to see them

Yossarian
08-12-2004, 03:31:AM
Originally posted by santino
Danny, if u stop typing right now.....you won't look like an idiot:crazyboy:


LOL@ Retardino the numskull advising people on about the good that comes out of just simply shutting the **** up to stafe off further embarrassment....man that's gold. Seriously, if you only practiced what you preached, you'd be a Goddamn mute around here. If only. though. I mean, you and your backdoor brothers have fouled up and ruined countless of threads with your inane and tripe talk and you have the gall to talk to a SG hero like dannyeli in that manner? What a joke!!

santino
08-12-2004, 04:11:AM
yes, you are correct, it was a joke...hence the :crazyboy:

my apologies if you were offeneded for a joking comment directed at danny

and retardino...hahahahaha, good one, and since your so familiar with family guy, then you'll have fun reading this

Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. You are the weakest link goodbye. You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that outside the program before. Because that's what she says on the show right? Isn't it? You are the weakest link goodbye. And, and yet you've taken that and used it out of context to insult me in this everyday situation. God what a clever, smart girl you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!

santino
08-12-2004, 09:27:AM
Originally posted by TOON ARMY
I suggest you do your maths again:

Serie A - 816 goals for divided by 18 = 45.3 as an average
Premierleague - 1012 goals for divided by 20 = 51 as an average

;)


last season the serie a only had 34 weeks and the epl had 38

therefore.......a lot more epl games and not a large difference in scoring


sorry im dragging this on, but the outlook people have about the serie a being defensive should try watching the games

dannyeli
08-12-2004, 09:29:AM
Santino :clapwap:

claupastore
08-12-2004, 09:29:AM
only 2.6 more goals each week :)

santino
08-12-2004, 09:30:AM
so i guess now's a good time to toss out an:


I Win:)







and a rot in hell to yoss

claupastore
08-12-2004, 09:31:AM
Originally posted by santino
sorry im dragging this on, but the outlook people have about the serie a being defensive should try watching the games

yea like this other guy that said that he prefers the EPL because he gets more for his money.
how is watching a team attack and the other one just sit there and let the other team rape them in the ass fun??

i´d rather watch a team attack and the other one defend itself with everything they have :rockman:
now thats fun alright!

dannyeli
08-12-2004, 09:32:AM
Originally posted by claupastore
just sit there and let the other team rape them in the ass fun??



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

santino
08-12-2004, 09:33:AM
it's all based on opinon really

im not gonna bash him for watching epl

but i am gonna do it when he bashes serie a

claupastore
08-12-2004, 09:35:AM
Originally posted by dannyeli
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

i didnt mean that to be funny. it depicts the truth :)

Juventino
08-12-2004, 04:39:PM
Originally posted by santino
so i guess now's a good time to toss out an:


I Win:)







and a rot in hell to yoss
Can I get a little credit too? :borat:

:p

Rob
08-12-2004, 05:05:PM
Originally posted by santino
last season the serie a only had 34 weeks and the epl had 38
It is an average; weeks don't go into consideration after he averaged the goals out per the teams.

Do it by weeks, it will just be divided by 2 again from the original number.

Now, I know you don't want to take on me :) So I will close the thread because this "Serie A vs EPL" is annoying, boring and just plain stupid.