My solutions for PES4 are:
Vsync Off
Sound Off
Graphic cards setup turn to Best Performance

Anybody have some other solutions?? Because my game working very bad like 30-60 sec when I start match or half time and after I score a goal. If i turn details to LOW and resolution 640x480 the situation is the same with 800x600 and HIGH details.


Grazie people!!

Wrong forum.

Anyway, turning only the crowd sound has worked for some people.

Get the NVRefreshTool 2.1a and apply 640x480 and 800x600 at a 60Hz screen refresh rate. That has helped me terribly. It don't matter what refresh rate your monitor is set to, but the game has to be set to 60Hz using that tool.

whats kinds of problems are you guys having,, everythings worked good for me.

Originally posted by CopeCOwBoy
whats kinds of problems are you guys having,, everythings worked good for me.

2nd that.

Konami actually did a bad job converting this game from PS2 to PC... which led to the game only running smoothly (60 frames/sec) on some video cards. I've a GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB AGP 8X and i tried running 1280x960 at medium image quality at 60mhz refresh rate, and it runs perfect (60fps)... but at 800x600 at low resolution with 70mhz refresh rate... it gets choppy.
So it has to be a problem with converting the game from ps2 to pc. also if you notice the ps2 pes4 lets you choose ntsc at 60mhz or pal which is lower... so something due with that

Konami actually did a bad job converting this game from PS2 to PC

wtf?!?!?

ok, this really irks me...you are pinning it on the fact that the PS2 to PC translation is bad? come on...you're not a programmer, you're a gamer. get with the program...

why does it run perfectly well on my PC? oh! maybe it's because my PC meets the minimum requirements. yes, they can be found on the back of the jewel case:

windows 95se/me/2000/xp
intel pIII 800Mhz
128mb ram
4x dvd
nvidia geforce 3 or ati radeon 8500
directx8.1 compatible soundcard

those are the requirements to get the game to RUN.

now, if you want to have a pleasant gaming experience, you need the following:

windows 2000/xp
p4 1.5Ghz
256mb ram
nvidia geforce 4 ti or ati radeon 9600 or higher
blah blah blah

do you meet those requirements?

AFAIK, normal TVs usually have a refresh rate of 60MHz, with some older PAL TVs having lesser than that. Hence, it'd make sense that Konami programmed WE/PES to run up to 60MHz only, since that is what most people on PS2/Xbox will be running on. And since PES4 is a straight port from the PS2 version, I guess it's not meant to run more than 60MHz.....

But frankly, I don't really see why people are having trouble with the graphics.....I mean, the PS2's specs is equivalent to what PCs were 4 years ago, so anything newer should be fine.

Originally posted by The CajunStyle
wtf?!?!?

ok, this really irks me...you are pinning it on the fact that the PS2 to PC translation is bad? come on...you're not a programmer, you're a gamer. get with the program...

why does it run perfectly well on my PC? oh! maybe it's because my PC meets the minimum requirements. yes, they can be found on the back of the jewel case:

windows 95se/me/2000/xp
intel pIII 800Mhz
128mb ram
4x dvd
nvidia geforce 3 or ati radeon 8500
directx8.1 compatible soundcard

those are the requirements to get the game to RUN.

now, if you want to have a pleasant gaming experience, you need the following:

windows 2000/xp
p4 1.5Ghz
256mb ram
nvidia geforce 4 ti or ati radeon 9600 or higher
blah blah blah

do you meet those requirements?

My cpu more than meet recommended specs:

ihave: 2,0 GHz, 512 MB ddr ram, LCD monitor (12 ms responsetime) and nvidia GeForce 4 4200 ti 64 mb...and the game does not run smooth...i can polay at 800x600 and high...but its still not perfect so fu.ck off it should be running smooth since i have more than recommended specs!:f***: :rolleyes: :f***: :rolleyes: :f***: :rolleyes: :f***:

AMD 2.6
Radeon 9600XT

In replays i can get a frame drop.
Sometimes I also get noticable drop in frames during play. It happens randomly and there is no known cause why.
If i turn on AA/AF or only AF on 2x (the minimum i can), for better grass graphics, the grass looks way better but the problems get way worse.
I also have sound delays.
I can play only on 60hz, like almost all people here..
All this problems are present on any resolution i've tried.
I don't have problems with any other game i have.

So conslusion can be only one: it's a poor conversion and a poor job from Konami. I want a patch or i'll return the game back.

When I enable V-synch my game in not smooth...strange.

They actually converted the PS2 version so exactly that i occassionally have slowdowns in the box (i did own the PS2 version too)

I've got a Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz 512 Ram and a Radeon 9100. More than required, i guess.

The worst thing is the grass textures. they vibrate and "move" and it makes me feel dizzy after 5 minutes of play.

conversions are just bollocks.

Try it at 60Hz for the resolution you play in. It should be better, i hope..

Originally posted by simakperrce
They actually converted the PS2 version so exactly that i occassionally have slowdowns in the box (i did own the PS2 version too)

I've got a Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz 512 Ram and a Radeon 9100. More than required, i guess.

The worst thing is the grass textures. they vibrate and "move" and it makes me feel dizzy after 5 minutes of play.

conversions are just bollocks.


I just bought a Ati Radeon 9600 XT and the game runs beatifully ay high details, BUT sometimes there are still some strange lines on the field. I think the monitor is the problem , because is an LCD and has a response of 30 ms.....Am I right?

Mine runs fine but I have a very good set up

great game btw

Its obviousky KONAMI ****ed up the converting to the PC, because the highest you can select on the PS2 is indeed 60 hertz, and funnily enough its only on 60 hertz I, and most people can only get the game to work..

And the sound is ****ed aswell in the menus but not in-game..

Originally posted by adialex
I just bought a Ati Radeon 9600 XT and the game runs beatifully ay high details, BUT sometimes there are still some strange lines on the field. I think the monitor is the problem , because is an LCD and has a response of 30 ms.....Am I right?

it's because of VSync, try to put VSync ON.

Originally posted by feliycora
it's because of VSync, try to put VSync ON.

surprising at this card I don't see this option, the FX 5200 had V-sync....I have the last drivers from ati with catalist control center....DAMN!

This is a really rotten conversion ... you can tell there's a great game here that would run well on most rigs, but Konami apparently couldn't be bothered to optimize the game ... maybe there just aren't than many of us playing it on the PC.

I'm tempted to upgrade my video card from GeForce 4 Ti4400 but I'm afraid it won't matter.

The game is simply unplayable for me because I either have to live with wavy, headache-inducing grass or choppy play.

I guess I'll go back to PES3, which ran smooth as glass ...

Originally posted by rdaumeyer
This is a really rotten conversion ... you can tell there's a great game here that would run well on most rigs, but Konami apparently couldn't be bothered to optimize the game ... maybe there just aren't than many of us playing it on the PC.

I'm tempted to upgrade my video card from GeForce 4 Ti4400 but I'm afraid it won't matter.

The game is simply unplayable for me because I either have to live with wavy, headache-inducing grass or choppy play.

I guess I'll go back to PES3, which ran smooth as glass ...

He he from Cincinnati there...sh!t i had a crazy holliday there when i was visiting my bro who was swimming on their college team!!

I agree with u that is pure crap that evn with recomended soecs the game doesnt run perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got a pretty high spec PC and it's not smooth. I've tried everything - The problem must be the Ti4200 graphics card. (or it could be a soundcard issue which Ill try tonight)

I can run halflife2 on high detail perfectly.
I could run PES3 **PRE PATCH** perfectly

Specs:

P4 2.8ghz hyperthreaded
1 Gig Dual Channel Memory
Geforce Ti4200 128mb Graphics card

Should be fine. Shouldn't it? :(

DALE

Originally posted by askewd
I've got a pretty high spec PC and it's not smooth. I've tried everything - The problem must be the Ti4200 graphics card. (or it could be a soundcard issue which Ill try tonight)

I can run halflife2 on high detail perfectly.
I could run PES3 **PRE PATCH** perfectly

Specs:

P4 2.8ghz hyperthreaded
1 Gig Dual Channel Memory
Geforce Ti4200 128mb Graphics card

Should be fine. Shouldn't it? :(

DALE

Yes it should i have nearly same card as you 64 mb though 2,0 GHz and 512 mb ddr ram...im convinced its the graphic card...many people have probs with this sh!t card go to technical forum and read the thread about GeForce ti 4 4200!

Yes i can 100% guarantee it's a bad conversion from ps2 to pc... my friend is a game programmer and he knows the fact that konami is not experienced in pc games.

regarding those of you that have G4 Ti4200/4400/4600 cards.. i think the reason for not running smoothly at 60+mhz refresh rates even at lowest resolution is b/c the card is not 100% DX9 compatible.. it supports DX8.1.. which is sort of a compromise. so i think pes4 requires graphic cards that 100% support DX9

Originally posted by askewd
I've got a pretty high spec PC and it's not smooth. I've tried everything - The problem must be the Ti4200 graphics card. (or it could be a soundcard issue which Ill try tonight)

I can run halflife2 on high detail perfectly.
I could run PES3 **PRE PATCH** perfectly

Specs:

P4 2.8ghz hyperthreaded
1 Gig Dual Channel Memory
Geforce Ti4200 128mb Graphics card

Should be fine. Shouldn't it? :(

DALE


thats more than enough, its not a very demanding game, dont know what the problem is,,i run it fine maxed out on my bros computer with worse specs than that.

Originally posted by kelvinchan88
Yes i can 100% guarantee it's a bad conversion from ps2 to pc... my friend is a game programmer and he knows the fact that konami is not experienced in pc games.


Well, you don't need to be a programer to know that, just a PES PC player.. hehe..

Anyway i think they should hire a group of few people who know something about computers and do a nice optimization of the code, make some computer related bugs to disappear etc..damn, is it so expensive or what is Konami thinking?

I'll just return the game back to the store because i can't enjoy it with all the bugs crawling out of my screen and my sound card..
Then, if they do a nice patch to fix this things, i may buy it again...

:kader: :kader: :kader:

Do you send email to Konami ??? Because I would like know if Konami is making new patch, and if this patch release soon.

can someone plz tel me how to turn v sync on usin the new catalyst driver setup control???

Originally posted by DirtyShady
Do you send email to Konami ??? Because I would like know if Konami is making new patch, and if this patch release soon.

No, not yet.. i don't know the correct e-mail address.

Yes, it was true a DirectX 8.1 game if its not DirectX 8.0 and it is a STRAIGHT (yes, no reprogram for "special" PC use...) CONVERSION from the PS2 version. PS2 cant handle Dx 9.0 instructions, they are similar to Dx7.0 instruction (on PS2 machine), so there will be on ly slower performance if u manage to push it in Dx9 use (via radlinker, or others 3dtools) without any enhancement in quality.

It is right on the header of their pes4.exe program if U disasembling them , u can see the licence agreement of using the DirectX 8.0 modul.

So use pixel shader max at 1.4 n vertex at 1.1 in your radlinker to play the game, it will make less complicated to your PC to read the DirecX instructions.

Hope it'll help... o yea n nevermind Truform etc..

PS:bout the bad grass, it is a 'built-in' anisothropic for this game...its emulation so its slow...

The game work fine for me, no slowdon yet, n I only have 9600XT with less than good other parts...

regarding those of you that have G4 Ti4200/4400/4600 cards.. i think the reason for not running smoothly at 60+mhz refresh rates even at lowest resolution is b/c the card is not 100% DX9 compatible.. it supports DX8.1.. which is sort of a compromise. so i think pes4 requires graphic cards that 100% support DX9


Actually I just bought a GF6800 card, and it's still not "right". Better yes, but not right.

PRE PATCHED PES3 = PERFECT
Everything else since = :(

DALE

I got a 2ghz Gateway
Upgraded to
1 gig Ram
256MB ATI Radeon Graphics Card

Everything works beautifully except the opening movie which I've never seen cause it always locks up my game.

ya know

i specially bought a 9600XT just so i can play the game smoothly!

previously i was just using GF2