View Full Version : GREAT SUKUR AND PIRLO BOTH SUCK FOR INTER!! AND NOW WERE DONE!


Juninhio
23-08-2000, 11:59:PM
I watched the entire damn match from start to finish in a foreign language.

1. Pirlo is total hype this guy is not the real deal. If Recoba was on from start to finish I bet we could have had an inspired attack in the first 45.

If you gotta decide on Pirlo Seedorf and Vampeta get Pirlo the hell out.

2. Sukur sucks and was a horrible mistake all the matches he was in he played like crap. Turkish league and Italian league are way different.

3. I know Recoba missed the PK but at least him and Keane actually inspired the final 45 minutes of attack. The entire second half was spent in the opposing side.

4. I am so damn pissed off now. Inter under achieve as usual they have made mistakes since the day they said goodbye to R Carlos and now another true fighter like Seedorf looks set to go to make way for Fake hype like Pirlo. My god im sick of this.

Zambrotta
24-08-2000, 12:10:AM
Pirlo is o.k. It's not his fault that this arrogant-****head-Lippi-son-of-a-cheap-whore plays either him or Recoba. Why not both? Because Lippi is a goddamn ****head? Oh, I guess I said this before.

And the best part of this is: Roberto Baggio has won Lippi almost all his trophies and big matches, still this no-good freak also called a coach hates him and moves him whenever possible.
Baggio's 2 brilliant goals against Parma gave Inter this chance in the first place.

But that's what happens when you confirm a stupid-prickheaded-dickless-piece-of-**** and send away God.

Juninhio
24-08-2000, 12:27:AM
I've only seen Pirlo as okay against average teams. This guy is no Roberto Baggio, he's one of a kind and i dont know if it's pressure or what but I can't see Pirlo being his sucessor.

Sukur has been horrible in the last two competive matches. Save this guy for when inter play the siere c2 teams in italian cup. I am sick of this

First 2 of the three best players only play half the game (Blanc excpetion this guy is always a rock in defense) and this.

Why did they get rid of Ventola he is way way better than Sukur. We should have kept Ventola traded pirlo and acquired a right sided attacking midfielder to complient Recoba on the left.

Cauet is not a right sided midfielder.

Zambrotta
24-08-2000, 12:33:AM
Pirlo was Italy's best player in the whole U-21 campaign last year which ended with Italy's win against CZE (guess who scored the msot goals). He also was brilliant last year when he played with a valid midfield (Baronio most of all).
Players like Cauet and Jugovic are Inter's demise. Old and no skills. I can't believe Lippi still plays them.

3 defenders, Brocchi on the left, Zanetti on the right, di Biagio and Seedorf/Vampeta in the middle. Pirlo behind Recoba and a striker. This would work but you ain't gonna see it under this coach.

Juninhio
24-08-2000, 12:52:AM
Pirlo does suck. Where have you guys ever seen him good?? Your brain washed by the media. This guy is suppose to be Baggio's heir but he is soooooo not.

Euro under 21 is a joke tourny and you know it Zambrotta. They send the players not good enough to make the senior side.
He was not good enough to make the Euro 2000 squad only the under 21 squad. Other under 21's like Owen Anelka etc all made their teams.

He played on Reggina so I know you didn't get very much coverage of him playing. And I've watched all the televised inter games with him and saw nothing special.

Seedorf is better and will always be better. If he is a replacement for Seedorf I'm going to be very mad.

Seedorf has the tricks and skill of a Ajax youth system and will soon be as good as Zidane.

Pirlo is suppose to be the future of the Italian attack. Problem is Italy is know for it's defense not attack. Watch out this guy is a Del Piero 2.

Tell me when this guy has a good game becuase I have yet to see one.

Best players were Keane who is just as young as Pirlo yet played with all his heart, when the ball went out he ran put it on the goal line. Recoba, sure he missed but was a menace all night, Seedorf truly inspirational didn't quite and Blanc the rock as usual.

Dibagio should have start Jugovic shouldn't have played. This makes no sense. Maybe due to match fitness.

We need a right sided player to compliment Recoba on the left.

Worst players: Sukur no comment Pirlo you know how I feel and Marcelli this guy is no Roberto Carlos though he tries.

If lippi is dead bent on 4 4 2 the
until Vieri and Ronaldo are healthy here is the best formation

.............Keane.........Zamarano..........
...Recoba............................Brocchi
.................Seedorf.....................
........................DiBagio..............
Domorad......Blanc........Simic......Cordobia

sabaho
24-08-2000, 02:12:AM
although i agree with many of this

THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS NO STRUCTURE!

abig number of players(many of are good):young,old,attacking,defensive..fast,skilled all types but this is not a game in the street!

and I PERFECTLY AGREE THAT LIPPI IS STUPID: THE ONLY THINGS INTER DID IN THE LAST 2 YRS WERE DUE TO BAGGIO!

Paolo_Rossi
24-08-2000, 03:51:AM
Junhinio,stop blaming Pirlo ,Recoba wasnt any better ,he even missed a penalty shot .Here are the facts .You can play Recoba or Pirlo ,the team will always lose no matter what ,the only players who can save inter are Vieri and Ronaldo ,no one else can .

Kostas 7
24-08-2000, 06:31:AM
Guy's common. Ronaldo please. Yes for his time (about a month) he was the top star of the sport but that's it. He is probably the most overated player right now. If he ever comes back he'll never be what he used to be and that's that. It's a shame though Inter went out cause there my fravorite Italian team.

Inter09
24-08-2000, 07:06:AM
As a die hard Inter fan I for one feel that this is ****! I here they played all out attacking football and still could not ******* score? What is the problem??? Recoba and Keane played good, Seedorf played good, its seems to me that most of the team played pretty good, so how do they not win?? They better pull their **** together for the Uefa Cup and win it. That is the only way to get redemption. Oh yeah, they could win the Scudetto, that might help. I saw on their website that they play Olympiakos on Monday, is this a friendly or the Uefa Cup beginning? The problem does seem to be Lippi, but who else are they going to get? They had like 5 different coaches last year and that didn't work. They need to stick with one, if not Lippi, then who else?

Zambrotta
24-08-2000, 09:39:AM
Juninhio you are a blatant idiot.
You craphead always said how you like Pirlo and that he will be Italy's future.
Now don't you dare and say you didn't.

Well here comes Pirlo, all 21 years of him, fails JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE to deliver last night and you, I persume because he is Italian, talk **** about him.

This shows how much you stick to your own opinion, because we sure follow a media-creature who came in at 17 and scored 4 goals at that age.

And why were Owen and Anelka at EURO2K? Because their countries didn't have any better players.
It was clear that raw Pirlo was left home when you have Totti and leave Baggio at home as well.

And the U21 tourney being a fraud? Just ask Thierry Henry and the French squad about their 2 matches vs. Italy last year. That was real soccer, but you'll never get it.

Just to remind you boner: What the **** did Rivaldo do at 21? And look at him today.

shez
24-08-2000, 08:55:PM
i was annoyed with some m***** f*****s in this forums ( no names) who used to mention pirlo everytime, they were lik..yaaaaaah once pirlo gets a chance we'll be alright,this guy is s**t, even with the U-21..he wasn't THAT brilliant..
same thing with Recoba, he can't f****n perform in big occasions...
that what happens when u rely on half players and put gods like Baggio out of ur team.
may inter rest in peace

shez

Juninhio
24-08-2000, 10:18:PM
I actually though Pirlo would be Italy's future but Pirlo is friggin Del Piero 2. This guy has never done nothing at the top level. I know he is only 20 but so is Robbie Keane who I thought would suck yet he has turned out to be awesome. I am allowed to make mistakes and it was a mistake bringing him back and lending out Ventola. Seedorf is a way way better attacking mid and now that Vampeta is here I say they should be our center mid pairings. Maybe Maybe in a game against Verona play Pirlo but until he proves he is capable at this level get the hell out he is ruining our team. And same with sukur. Man he is even worse.


And Pablo, have you ever watched an Inter game with Recoba. Or do you just judge the match on reports from Soccer Daily? This guy is amazing wow he missed a penalty shot, I can think of quite a few other greats to miss big penalty shots.

Trust me Pablo the entire second half Recoba was the man of the match.

Zambrotta
24-08-2000, 10:40:PM
Keane played 2 games and is brilliant.
Pirlo played 2 games and is a bust.
Very insightful and wise.

shez
25-08-2000, 12:19:AM
i agree Juninho,
Recoba was the man of the second half ( forget about the penalty)..but the opponents were helsingborg!!..anybody who was chosen to wear and inter shirt SHOULD do well against a team like helsingborg..
another point..
ppl in this forum drive me crazy, they read the daily soccer or any soccer homepage's review of a game and come here and talk like they were in the stadium!!
thats why sometimes ppl say things then go back and say the OPPOSITE because they read another homepage!

shez

Fotbalguy
25-08-2000, 12:56:AM
Inter shoould have kept Mutu and played him. What a mistake they did.

Paolo_Rossi
25-08-2000, 01:02:AM
Junhinio,first you criticize Baggio for missing in 94 ,but when Recoba misses ,u dont say anything .The point is that he couldnt score against a so called Helsinborg team .That is pathetic,I saw the game ,Recoba,Suker and pirlo did not impress me ,so what Recoba had chances ,Inter were underpressure and they need goals so Recoba had numerous chances to score and just like del piero ,he cant score when the team needs it .Recoba's problem is that he isnt a good finisher like Vieri or Ronaldo and no inter player come close to both ronaldo and Vieri .As for Pirlo ,the reason why he is playing bad is cause he is not playing is real position wich is attacking midfield ,he is not a striker .

shez
25-08-2000, 01:56:AM
Inter played with sukur and zamorano from the beginning, behind them was pirlo and seedorf, pirlo was a playmaker in that game and he failed to deliver, forget about him and rely on seedorf he'll get u somewhere!

Juninhio
25-08-2000, 02:05:AM
First of all I can tell right away you dont know **** about inter Pablo because if you did you would know that Recoba was playing as an outside left in a 4 4 2. Not a striker. In fact Pirlo was playing right behind the strikers the whole first half and didnt do ****. Seedorf who was much deeper was forced to drive his runs up the field when Lippi wasn't screaming for Blanc to long ball it pass the midfield for a hail mary to Sukur or Zamarano.

And no I never said Baggio sucked for missing in 94. No player sucks just because he misses a penalty. In fact Roberto Baggio is one of the best players of last decade. I hate people who say a player sucks cause he misses penalties. Recoba was amazing and it was simply horrible luck that he missed his PK.

I'll never understand why shooters rarely raise their shots, keepers always dive low so even if you put it a little up you'll frequently hit.

And no Zambrotta I'm not basing Pirlo sucking on 2 games, I'm basing it on the fact that ALL TELEVISED games i've seen for Inter he has sucked. Playing for Reggina is one thing but now he's in the big time.

Also you brought up a point about Rivaldo, how good was he as a 21 year old. Well your exactly right Rivaldo was not very good. Your totally right. But then again he didn't start a crucial match for BARCELONA as a 21 year old either. Same should be done with Pirlo keep him on a team to develop him and bring him back when he is no longer a liability.

And get Sukur the F@#K out!!!!

ONE PISSED OFF INTER FAN!

Edmundo22
25-08-2000, 03:51:AM
i cant believe pirlo was picked over seedorf as playmaker - Lippi is an idiot.
as for Sukur, i still rate him highly , he will score important goals this season.
He ****s all over robbie keane in my view.

still inter shud have won.. well done helsingborg http://www.soccergaming.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Edmundo22 (edited 08-24-2000).]

Kostas 7
25-08-2000, 06:34:AM
No the match with Olympiakos is a friendly.

Paolo_Rossi
25-08-2000, 08:45:PM
When will they get rid of Zamorano???He is old and not usefull .Pirlo is young ,but Inter always have a problem when it comes to developping a player ,im sure Pirlo would be a better players if hr would play with a team that know how to develop youngsters like Juventus and Milan .

Juninhio
26-08-2000, 02:24:AM
Zamarano is voluntarily leaving for Colo Colo next year. He has already agreed that its time for Hagi2 Adrian Mutu and Vieri2 Nicola Ventola to help inter. Zamarono was amazing for inter a few years ago but your right he is past his prime. Along with Sukur. What a damn waste Galtasssary buys a better replacement than inter. How's that for irony.

Paolo_Rossi
26-08-2000, 04:34:AM
Isnt Mutu gone or is he on loan ??But Inter did a good thing to loan ventola cause he will be getting a chance to play more often and if he would of stayed with Inter ,he would probably be benched .And Ventola will probably develop into a good solid striker .Im a big fan of ventola and this year should be his year .

shez
26-08-2000, 05:51:AM
Sukur is a brilliant player, he can win the ball in the air and do so many things that ronaldo and vieri can't do...he's a different type of player..
if u see the inter attackers now, they have 4 different players with 4 different styles...
Ronaldo: dribbling and skills but no heading.
vieri: heading and strength but no skills.
sukur:air domination and can keep the ball till players come to help, very comfortable with playing alone up front..
Zamorano: he'll give u 100% but he's too old to deliver at that stage, has to make room !

shez

Zambrotta
26-08-2000, 10:10:AM
whoa shez, Vieri and no skills! whoa

Hagi10
26-08-2000, 11:05:AM
Wait for Sukur a bit,and don't forget he does what Lippi says.A mounth later,if he doesn't return,all of you will understand the quality of him.

Zambrotta
26-08-2000, 11:56:AM
Sukur is a good player, he played 2 bad matches at Euro2K only to carry his team alone into the quarters.

Juninhio
26-08-2000, 09:01:PM
I think what he means is dribbling skills. However plenty of players like Jardel, Vieri and Batistuta dont have the greatest of dribbling skills just a really really ****in hard accurate shot make them most dangerous.

Thats why the ultimate fantasy pairing would be Ronaldo and Vieri, you got the pace dribble and technique, and with Vieri you got the strenght size and finishing.

Paolo_Rossi
26-08-2000, 10:01:PM
Junhinio,the only problem with the Ronaldo-Vieri pair is the fact that they never play together .I think they played 4 games together last year .Most of the time ,one of them would be injured .

Fat Bhoy Tim
27-08-2000, 06:45:AM
Inter's saviour may be a small Irish geezer in the #7 shirt after all

he was fantastic but the rest of the team was arse.

Inter are probably the most over hyped team in the world