I got the first PM today with the following question:
Originally asked by Larry
Maybe its time to make a SG club for FM ?"

And I responded that I would start thinking about it soon. Well, now's pretty soon.

I was thinking about creating a team with just about completely random players, as there would be more fun in playing with a random team than always having this same kid scoring heaps...

The only set things would be name, birthdate, nationality, position, current ability, and maybe one or two boosted stats.
Potential ability would be, depending on which league the team will start in, distributed over two or three of the random categories. Current would be set depending on the selected category for the player and his age.

Nothing decided, though. I'd like everyone's input.

Also... my MSN is out again, so anyone who has a good site to have the rar-file uploaded, at 26.9MB...

Maybe SG Downloads might host it? Or an FM site if we asked them nicely?

sounds cool

so it isnt gonna be like SGCM then? e.g. we have our own names but dont neccasarily see how good we all are (randomly generated as you mentioned in one of the other threads)

well im up for it, though obviously last time i was mod, so looks like this time my potential is gonna be down here with the peasants :p :p

TROD.

Sorry, i didn't know how it worked last year, what members are able to enter in it?

Anyone can apply, that was the rule when we had this for CM4...

It still is. The 3 groups of potential would be distributed according to activity in the FM forum. (maybe I should make it CM5 forum, that way the CM5 forum might get a boost :p)

My idea is that one states what position one wants to play, and which two stats to excell in (start at 15?). Then the creator of the patch and the AI will do the rest.


How to do the distribution of the current ability though...
If you are, say, 25-ish, you should get ~95% of the potential, but how to do that without removing the randomness...
I'll test the player randomisation AI tomorrow a little... maybe.

and the mods get higher potential :( :(

:p

TROD.

Originally posted by RuiCosta_10
Sorry, i didn't know how it worked last year, what members are able to enter in it?

Look at these threads:
http://www.soccergaming.tv/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=119

Originally posted by TROD
and the mods get higher potential :( :(

:p

TROD. None higher than the top posters, like yourself.

I can upload it. Send it over MSN or e-mail it to the.rash@gmail.com

oh, well thats changed, last year the mods got more

TROD.

So, if anyone can

Diego Ochoa
09/August/1985
Argentina
GK

Current Ability, well, I think if we all gonna have random stats, CA also must be random, or, all the players having the same CA, talking about Potential, if all the players has this random, it would be better according to the fact that we'll not like to play with the same players always :p

Well, hope this will go well :)

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
None higher than the top posters, like yourself.

Damn i should start postboasting (H) j/k but that sounds pretty cool.

Postboosting will lower your potential. Don't worry, I'm not that thick. :crazyboy:

Originally posted by Vagegast
I can upload it. Send it over MSN or e-mail it to...

Cool, but I'll try SG first, they did host the previous versions as well. Just have to split up the file for e-mail, and then have them put it back together.


Oh, and btw, Nidoking and others also, don't sign up for it yet. The format still needs to be confirmed. :p

Hmm like NIDOKING said are all the current ability going to be same or will that be random as well? Also you said we are gonna have 2 ability that will be 15, is that only for technicel ability or for physical ability too? Like say if i wanted passing and shooting to be 15 but i also wanted acceleration and stamina to be 15 is that allowed?

Heres my Info
Berdi, Hassan
03/December/1987
Afghanistan
AMC/R/L

OK Ruud, sorry me :$

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
None higher than the top posters, like yourself.


i think potential should be arranged like this:

Mods
Regular posters in FM Forum
Regular posters elsewhere in SG.tv
Other posters
Dragan
Ahmed



:)

:( :( Ok....

Damn you C-B!

TROD.

Sounds good. What about coaches and assist managers? Maybe mods could fill that spot (H) :$

Matt Holme = Chairman
Coach = Lior Fengas
Groundsman = Ahmed Kahli

This sounds like a very good idea, I would certainly be interested :)

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
None higher than the top posters, like yourself.

Do i count as a top poster :confused:

Originally posted by Parra Power
i think potential should be arranged like this:

Mods
Regular posters in FM Forum
Regular posters elsewhere in SG.tv
Other posters
Dragan
Ahmed



:) That would mean 6 groups of potential... the difference would be humongous in game :(
I could just stick Dragan and Ahmed in with the other posters, that would be ok, 4 groups. :p

How about:
- FM/CM Mods and extremely high quality posters FM/CM-forum
- Other mods (including supermods) Regular posters FM/CM-forum
- Casual posters FM/CM-forum
- Others


Originally posted by Larry
Matt Holme = Chairman
Coach = Lior Fengas
Groundsman = Ahmed Kahli"Matt Holme Stadium" (he did retire from SG), a 22,710 all seater, with 60,000 expansion capacity
Chairman - Lior Fengas
Assistant Manager - Andrew Castenmiller
Other staff randomly generated.

The stadium will cost some maintenance, but I'm keeping the budget tight. How about £1M balance, and no transfer fee?


Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
Like say if i wanted passing and shooting to be 15 but i also wanted acceleration and stamina to be 15 is that allowed?I think the stats should be unrestricted as for what group they are from. Choose whichever stat you like, but no more than two.

Originally posted by PaPaGeorGeo
Do i count as a top poster :confused: Yes, but I'm not sure about the first group. The second.

Oh, and the difference between group 3 (casual FM/CM posters) and 4 (others) must be substantial, like -6 for 3 and -4 for 4.

Good ideas Ruuuuuuuuud (H)

This is going to be a great project.

Once we get the attributes thread, sub forum, player submitting, etc. we need to talk about badge and kit colours etc.

But great stadium name!

Yea, sounds like a good idea.

Oh, and top posters for the whole SG board would be in the third group with casual FM/CM posters.

Top being major contributors, not necessarily meaning 5000+ posts.

Just the dominate foot, other foot ability should be random.

Everyone please wait untill there is a player submit thread before you submit your player :)

Yeah, good point, Rob, but don't sign up just yet.

Your preferred foot should indeed be free from the other things. R/L/Both, whatever.

Just no more than two sides (R/L/C) of a position, and only one line (GK/D/DM/M/AM/F).

What league are we going to start in?

Last year it was the english first division(championship) I believe. Anyway the name of the club sounds gay, SG United is better IMO.

SGA - SG Athletic.

We havent decided on a name yet. SGFC was just a name we refered it to when we first talked about it this morning. Everything will be decided on in the next few days. Dont worry, if you think something is gay then other people will too, and it wont be like that!

If you think the name is gay go away

haha, sounds sweet, count me in for that
would u reckon u'd include personal pictures as well?
since they r small?
altho wif some ppl on here...i wouldn't wanna see them in a dark alley, let alone on my PC... :confused:

how about pics? :confused: it's a great idea though

my suggestions for the stadium name

SoccerGaming Community Stadium
Matt Holmes Field
Matt Holmes Arena
SoccerGaming Olympic Stadium
Holmes Centennial Arena

hmmm, i think we all should just let the idea chill for a while, while ruudey gets the business done
and then we'll have subsequent threads for evrything from player details, to stadium name suggestions, to the kits, and so fourth....

The Gamers Arena

ok we need to think about everything before creating players, thats what we did last time.

Are we sure that its going to be in the English leagues? personally i think we should start in league 2.

Is the name definatly going to be SGFM?

however, as doggy quite rightly says, i think we should probably leave it for a bit while Ruud sorts it all out.

TROD.

By the way is Alex not working on this one?

:p

b a bit hard for him to?
since hes only back home in aus for a holiday and then hes back off to london???

we're talkin alex skip_e here ?
or sum1 else...

alex mixafendis, the dodgy greek one you sometimes find near small children :kader: :kader:

oh, he posts a bit too. :p

TROD.

haha alrite then, dunno the man
so cant help ya wif that question

He's posting a bit? He's spamming all over the place ;)

i know, he used to be such a good poster but now he's like a whore, he'll do any thread. :p

TROD.

Yadda yadda yadda, you youngsters just keep on talking, don't you? :kader:
Alex will join the discussion sooner or later, Tom's right with that last post of his...


I reckon we'll need a good subforum first. Just so the main forum doesn't get flooded.

yeh, damn right we do
that way we wont have to compete this thread with stupid threads :hump:

Originally posted by Larry
Groundsman = Ahmed Kahli

:rofl:

Btw.. why make it English? we will need work permits for non-EU players then. Maybe we can just add a second nationality :crazyboy:

of course ;)
like im 2nd nationality french :)
so it doesnt create a problem wif me being an aussie

I could just set everyone to declared for nation, so they would never get selected for their EU country.

please, i would b honoured to play for france...as long as they didnt have that jerky guy in the team
wats his name...
oh, pires, diving prick
but thankfully hes retired...or is that just wishful thinking
either way

back to this, since i dont kno how it all works
actually dont worry, ill follow the links larry posted

french people dont need work permits.

TROD.

No ****, Sherlock. (H)

We were talking about adding EU nationalities to non-EU members' players.

no sh*t sherlock... :crazyboy:
mayb u should read the posts again???
hes saying we give ppl an european 2nd nationality so no1 needs a work permit, but make the players 'declared for nation' so it means they've said they'll play for their home nation rather than their 2nd, to solve the problem....
and i was saying i actually am part french...somewhere...

ps, u like hantuchova ey...respect (H)
hopman cup, i was watching her play 2day hehe

hahaha, i thought sum ppl might have taken my sherlock comment the wrong way, but nice to see ruud said the exact same thing at the exact same time....
haha good stuff
no offence trod :p

Wow. I am Australian

Part German (H)

Meine bruder in Hessen-Darmstadt! (H) :mrpimp:






:(

Originally posted by doggy_j5

ps, u like hantuchova ey...respect (H)
hopman cup, i was watching her play 2day hehe

:rockman: :rockman: she won it didnt she?

Anyway no need to abuse me Ruud.

TROD.

haha she won alrite, beat the far uglier and also crapper american :rockman:
6-3 6-1 i think
was good watching...shes the best thing slovakia eva produced :hump:

:) part one is done.

shes one of the best looking things tennis has ever produced, lol

TROD.

Good thing we're having SG for FM... personally I like the Soccergaming United name...
I also like the new system for ability and for the stats but I'm not so sure about the money... I don't know about others (since it's basically only me who posted at the old SGU thread for Cm03/04) but I don't sign other players even if I have a billion pounds so a bigger budget would help keeping the most promising players at the club...
Something else... I believe some people here on the boards already have their "player" on the game due to the picture contest promoted by SI/SEGA... would that cause any problems?

meh not really, youd just have two Ruud van kasterens running around... a horrid thought really :p

TROD.

I was just testing that. I don't think so, but as new users with the name of one of the face-in-the-game people get the corresponding pic by default. Just checking...

The main problem with earlier versions though, was that they were too easy. I'm finding this problem again now. If someone is 25 (ie. me), he'll have to get a high current to correspond to his potential. so "if" I have -9 potential, I have to get 160 current as well, pretty good for league 2 (Div 3, remember) :S

We'd better start in the Championship, that would increase the difficulty, while keeping the ability problem low.

Of course, there's not so many ancient people like me here (right, Alex? :p), so it would only affect a couple of players.

Originally posted by TROD
meh not really, youd just have two Ruud van kasterens running around... a horrid thought really :p

TROD. I would have three... :|

Seeing as Ruud just posts crap on the boards (especially the FM boards) it'd be hard to tell which is the real one as his stats would be just like those of a crappy regen:rolleyes:

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
The main problem with earlier versions though, was that they were too easy. I'm finding this problem again now. If someone is 25 (ie. me), he'll have to get a high current to correspond to his potential. so "if" I have -9 potential, I have to get 160 current as well, pretty good for league 2 (Div 3, remember) :S



True that... ideally I'd like it to be challenging enough in a low league but with the players growing up to be champions league quality... maybe start everyone as 16 yrs old? or would it be impossible even then?

It would be possible. I could just start everyone at 0 current. Totally random.
But stamina problems do arise then. And you can still only sub 3 times.

Plus everyone below 17 has unprotected contracts...

i dont think we should have anyone under 17 personally.

By the way Ruud, i have sneaky feeling i wont be able to use it, cos of my consantly updating beta patches :kader: which is rather annoying

TROD.

I don't think so either, takes away a lot of the personality.

Why couldn't you use it? Doesn't SI want to know if unofficial updates mess up the new patch? :p

Stamina would be an issue but it can be overcome by rotating and stuff... unprotected contracts are a bit worse though... is 17 the minimum? would it make it too little time for the players to fully evolve?
Depending on how many people we get we could make a future transfer system (or am I getting too crazy?)... like we have the casual posters and others at the start of the game, get the big posters at the end of the first season and the stars (1st category) at the end of the second season.. until then, have them playing at some minor clubs or their fav club and give SG lots of money to bring them after a while... unfortunately it'd mean some people wouldn't see them in the game at the start... (but they can't really complain as they're gonna be the stars of the game?)

no i dont agree with that idea, it would be too hard to do and probably wouldnt work in most instances. No i think cos you're only editing the DB then the patches might not effect it :rockman:

I think the limit should be 17

TROD.

Out of the question. Everyone should start at SG Utd.

I just got a £275k transfer budget from Lior...

In related bad news:
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1634861

That sucks :(

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Out of the question. Everyone should start at SG Utd.


told you :p

TROD.

I have another idea: give boosted stats out according to the group.

1: 4 stats
2: 3 stats
3: 2 stats
4: 1 stat at 15 at the start.

15 might be too low for the likes of me, though, it wouldn't get noticed in the huge amounts of excellent stats I get :kader:

yeah bad idea... forget it... anyways... stats way too good, maybe a english championship start would be easy as well... euro qualification would be minimum for a team with stats like these...

It's only 2 or 3 players that will be this good from the beginning though... most guys here are 14-18.

Let me look at an 18 year old.

Well, here's a random 18 year old (well 17 at the start of the game)...

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1634897

Not bad, I gave him 0 current, and he got 117 :( Might set it at 80 or 90.

Physical is out of this universe though...

also one of the additions to FM is the fact that physical stats do indeed get better with age more (they did it a little bit on 0304 but not as much as FM)

anyway how you get my bday? lol

TROD.

the matt holme staduim?? are you for real :|

http://www.frailart.net/members/z0mbi/skeletor_gay.jpg

Ruud, where did you get that awesome FM-skin? :)

doesnt look like stoneskin to me that, but it might be :confused:

TROD.

Originally posted by TROD
doesnt look like stoneskin to me that, but it might be :confused:

TROD.
Yea just realized thats not it...

EDIT its FM Core at sorititoutsi.net:p My bad on the mistake there but it does kinda look like stone skin. It also has left and right menubars if you were wondering. Here is the direct link to the skin http://www.sortitoutsi.net/index.php?page=downloads&area=file&fileid=1545

Originally posted by AberdeenFC
the matt holme staduim?? are you for real :|


Well... just a first. It's not likely to get voted in anyway.

Originally posted by TROD
anyway how you get my bday? lol

You have it listed in your profile. :confused:

oh yeah... :D :D

TROD.

Originally posted by Dragan T
Ruud, where did you get that awesome FM-skin? :) Yeah, it's FM Core. They also have a blue version, with some strange font for the title bar... Looks good, once that's been set back to default, as well.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
I have another idea: give boosted stats out according to the group.

1: 4 stats
2: 3 stats
3: 2 stats
4: 1 stat at 15 at the start.

15 might be too low for the likes of me, though, it wouldn't get noticed in the huge amounts of excellent stats I get :kader:


i don't get it

Originally posted by Horatiu
i don't get it All the players will have completely random stats, with minor exceptions. I was originally thinking of 2 each, but maybe this division could add to the diversity between the groups.

If anybody has any further suggestions on stadium name, club name, location, division, or anything else, please say so. Then we can get to voting. :)

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
If anybody has any further suggestions on stadium name, club name, location, . :) Location: Huddersfield (H)

Stadium - UGO (undergroundonline)

Our stadiums' location should be in the clouds, since the forum is on the internet and that is all around the world.

:rolleyes: right... well maybe it'll make the poll :)

I mocked up some kits, I'd like some feedback on colours and design :)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1635268

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
:rolleyes: right... well maybe it'll make the poll :)

I mocked up some kits, I'd like some feedback on colours and design :)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1635268

I dont like the grey, its an ugly color. Maybe Blue and white with some yellow would be good. Also i like #4 the best.

Nice kits:)

Number 1 and 2 are the best in my opinion also 7 and 8 are good :)

I could use a lighter shade of gray, but gray is a main forum colour, kind of hard to leave out.

use the grey as an away kit colour, but lets have a nice good looking home kit.

what colour should it be?

Stadium: The Forum (H) that was an option in one of the older games (Y)

Would make a great nickname as well.

It gives a bit of a boring aftertaste, though...

I like kit #7 for home games with #8 for away... or maybe just plain blue for home and plain grey for away...

Originally posted by Larry
use the grey as an away kit colour, but lets have a nice good looking home kit.

what colour should it be? Look around your screen; those are your options, basically.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
I could use a lighter shade of gray, but gray is a main forum colour, kind of hard to leave out.

Yes I know it is the main colour but Grey is such an ugly colour:kader: We should do as Larry said, have the grey colour as an away colour. Hmm Home color should be, maybe blue and black with yellow or maybe even all blue.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Look around your screen; those are your options, basically.

Ok then.

Home = #3
Away = #2

:)

Some new designs, plus adapted #4
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1635375

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Some new designs, plus adapted #4
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1635375

Looks pretty good i like number 4 and 6

Well 5 (out of the new ones) should be the home then as it has less grey :p

nah just keep the blue and grey SG colours. doesnt exactly matter its only FM your not gonna be seein much of the strip.

i say we name the staduim, "The Kader On Bike When He Was 8 In Poland Staduim"

Originally posted by Andrejs
Well 5 (out of the new ones) should be the home then as it has less grey :p

This grey colour is better than the old one though and 5 and 6 are basically the same kits.

New designs:

Home = #6
Away = #4

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Some new designs, plus adapted #4
http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1635375

Home: #2
Away: #6 with the colours reversed so its blue stripes on white :confused:

from the new designs Number 3

Also i think the stadium should be in the clouds, that would be cool and is a great analygy about the internet. Either that or i will be campaigning for Rotherham

TROD.

Originally posted by AberdeenFC
nah just keep the blue and grey SG colours. doesnt exactly matter its only FM your not gonna be seein much of the strip.

i say we name the staduim, "The Kader On Bike When He Was 8 In Poland Staduim"

Maybe you could smuggle Ruud the photo and he'l t add it to someones profile ;)

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/maxiboesz-kits2.jpg

I think these two kits are the best with kit #3 as home kit and kit #4 as away kit

Oh and Ruud when you create me is it possible you can remove my picture I don't like it :( ?

When the player submitting is up, we should be able to post a photo of ourselves. What are the dimensions?

90x90 in png?

Neither do I. If you don't mind changing a part of your name or birthday, it won't be necessary, otherwise... you'll have to do it yourself.

(My vote goes to new #6 for home, and new #4 for away as well)

95x95 png, but I could reformat them if necessary.

Talking about that, I could have the update overwrite the regen pics on your PCs, if they're not write protected. They are by default.

I like #2 and #5 of the adapted ones, and 1 or 8 of the original shown

Vote in this thread for kits: http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117266

Ruud made some great kit designs!

I voted and BTW how about The Clouds Stadium for a name for the stadium?

I like the name "The Forum" and then have the location "Up In The Clouds" or something

Originally posted by Zlatan
I voted and BTW how about The Clouds Stadium for a name for the stadium?

LOL at your sig, Van Bommel what a legand:funny: :rofl:

Also i agree with Larry on stadium name a location.

Lol, I'll be playing around with the installer features, while Larry finishes up the preparations. Ok? :p

Make some more voting threads, Larry :)

Originally posted by Larry
I like the name "The Forum" and then have the location "Up In The Clouds" or something

"The Forum" sounds like a good name for a stadium.

Up in the clouds sounds too fairy.

Word Wide Lane/Line, Network.

Ahmed Khalil - Waterboy

pardon.. lol

Oh and at the end of the day the stadium will have to be in england.. even if it is in the clouds.

TROD.

Yeah, I'll just add "In the clouds" as a city in England :-puke:

Sounds really, really stupid. Talking about Gay :p

Oh well, whatever the scene wishes :)

What do we need to decide?

Stadium Name
Stadium Location
League Playing In

Anything else?

by the way Calumn yet again wants to be Assistant :p

TROD.

I like "The Forum" for the stadium's name... but just put it in London or the Isle of Man... "in the clouds" just doesn't sound right...

He's not getting it.

We also need to determine the club name.

SG Utd
SG FC
SG Athletics
Proposals anyone?

Originally posted by TROD
by the way Calumn yet again wants to be Assistant :p

TROD.
In CM03/04 he quit his job to become England Nationla manager....

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
He's not getting it.


:p :p

what did we have as the name for the previous clubs?

TROD.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
He's not getting it.

We also need to determine the club name.

SG Utd
SG FC
SG Athletics
Proposals anyone?

I like the sounds of SG FC, also which league are we gonna play in?:crazyboy:

CM3 01/02: Sporting SG
CM4: SG United
CM4 03/04: SG United

Real Soccergaming (H) :(

SG Dynamo (H)

Actually i like SG United the most.

god you're right! i vaguely remember Sporting SG! god that takes me back..

Ill go with SG United

TROD.

REAL SOCCERGAMING - LIKE REAL SOCIEDAD, BUT GOOD!

Ruud just started a thread for the Stadium name here (http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?threadid=117272) :)

I think sticking with SG United would be good.

I think so too. The other options aren't named anywhere near as often...

Plus I'd have to make a new logo...

i prefer SG United as well :p

when then player submition thread is available?

SG Caley Thistle

St. Soccergaming (H)

SG of Midlothian?

SG FC?
oh wait, i mean Juventus? :crazyboy:
nah, how bout SG Bayern? :confused:

Sorry to say, Bobby, but Horatiu overclassed you there :(

SG United.

So for this year's team, are you going to encorporate photo's, justa thought, i can't go through ten pages of posts

and i think we should stick with sg united

Pictures of 1 team shouldn't make much difference to a 30 MB download. Just attach an image to your sign-up post, and I will get it in as good as I can get it. Size of the field in the profile is 95x95 pixels, so don't go far below that, or you'll look all blurry.

how the feck did u guys manage to start a new forum and make some many new threads... and when did u guys manage to have a thread 11pages big :confused:
Who what where when :S

you missed all of last night's late action :p

TROD.

I managed to amount a total of 50 posts yesterday :crazyboy:

i posted so much yesterday, amazes me that at the same time i still got a 1500 word essay done :rockman: :hump:

TROD.

spamfest (H)
lol
god, can anyone give me a review?

We're keeping the sign up procedure easy this time. The players will be almost completely random. Bad part is that I need to come up with a good scheme to hand out current ability. If I don't set a current ability, older participants, like us two, Alex, will turn out really bad, and never get any better. This is what I got for now:

AGE % PA
-6 -7 -8 -9 -10

13 10 12 14 16 18 20
14 15 18 21 24 27 30
15 25 30 35 40 45 50
16 35 42 49 56 63 70
17 45 54 63 72 81 90
18 55 66 77 88 99 110
19 65 78 91 104 117 130
20 75 90 105 120 135 150
21 80 96 112 128 144 160
22 85 102 119 136 153 170
23 90 108 126 144 162 180
24 95 114 133 152 171 190
25 100 120 140 160 180 200
26 100 120 140 160 180 200
27 98 117 137 156 176 196
28 95 114 133 152 171 190
29 90 108 126 144 162 180
30 85 102 119 136 153 170 CA
Group: 4 3 2 1

This is the division of the groups, btw:
- FM/CM Mods and extremely high quality posters FM/CM-forum
- Other mods (including supermods) Regular posters FM/CM-forum
- Casual posters FM/CM-forum and top posters SG
- Others

And we're doing optional pictures. :)

Ruud.. what? I don't really get that. :(

-6? -7? -8? Group 4, 3, 2, 1? :nape:

hold up, so im in group 1 and im 18.

Therefore that means i start with 99 current ability? whats my potential then :confused:

TROD.

Listed above: -9 (might become -10, -9 is really a lot lower...)

Originally posted by Deutschland
Ruud.. what? I don't really get that. :(

-6? -7? -8? Group 4, 3, 2, 1? :nape:

-6, etc are the different random settings. The more negative numbers have higher potential. Groups are now in the post as well.

so basically, im in group 1 and im 18, i start with 99 current (or there abouts) and get a -9 potential (e.g. around 190-200) right?

TROD.

So

1 - FM/CM Mods and extremely high quality posters FM/CM-forum
2 - Other mods (including supermods) Regular posters FM/CM-forum
3 - Casual posters FM/CM-forum and top posters SG
4 - Others

???

Would I be 2 then? :(

EDIT: I am a CM Old Skooler, I've been here for 2 1/2 years, I think I should be -1 :(

-9 is like 155-185, where -10 is 170-200. So I might have to set every group one class higher in potential, as the older players would have more current than potential. Or I would have to recalculate my figures again, took me an hour to make any good...

well lets wait a minute here ruud, how many older members we got? and the ones we do have are either -9 or -10 right?

TROD.

Damnit. I think I should be in group 1. :(

Originally posted by Deutschland
So

1 - FM/CM Mods and extremely high quality posters FM/CM-forum
2 - Other mods (including supermods) Regular posters FM/CM-forum
3 - Casual posters FM/CM-forum and top posters SG
4 - Others

???

Would I be 2 then? :( 'Fraid so, Rob. Still... your 15, with ~150-180 potential. Not bad.

hehehe

TROD.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
'Fraid so, Rob. Still... your 15, with ~150-180 potential. Not bad. :kader:

Originally posted by TROD
well lets wait a minute here ruud, how many older members we got? and the ones we do have are either -9 or -10 right?

TROD. Nothing determined yet, discussion just started :)


Well... there's some of the CM 01/02 guys who are a bit older than avg. They might sign up...


I'm quite disappointed with the range of -9, though. It seems to really like the 150s...

Hey hey, Ruud, the median age here is about 19. But because of you being SO OLD, the mean is 56 :(




Um that was random, :D. but you are quite old. Anyway. Seriously. Me, Tom, Liam, Calumn.. VINTAGE old skoolers..

liam hasnt been around in weeks, im starting to worry :confused:

TROD.

There's a reason you're in the second group, Rob.

The only one other than the mods to qualify for group 1 is Tom. He's been the only one really doing a lot here in over a year. :(

Im guessing i would be in group 3:( I would post more but i havnt got that much time with school and work and all.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
There's a reason you're in the second group, Rob.

The only one other than the mods to qualify for group 1 is Tom. He's been the only one really doing a lot here in over a year. :(

Then the whole team will be mediocre at best with the exception of you guys. :(

Originally posted by Deutschland
Then the whole team will be mediocre at best with the exception of you guys. :(

Thats why you have to have good tactics:D

nah cos he may have to up group 2, as said earlier on

TROD.

If we are really bad, I'll have to adapt everyone a bit. But we were actually looking for a bit more difficulty, after the last couple of really easy ones, so why start on the high end ;)

To be honest, I'm more afraid of having too many good players for the Championship. :confused:

true, but ithink people dont want to be crap, lol

TROD.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
If we are really bad, I'll have to adapt everyone a bit. But we were actually looking for a bit more difficulty, after the last couple of really easy ones, so why start on the high end ;)

To be honest, I'm more afraid of having too many good players for the Championship. :confused:

Meh, sorry, I don't really mind. -9 or -8 or whatever seems ok. What PA is that?

Eh, Ruud I think most of us here are between 15-20(except you and Alex) so we'll all start with a crappy current ability

Well, if you look through the database, there's not that many young players with potential over 150.

Originally posted by Zlatan
Eh, Ruud I think most of us here are between 15-20(except you and Alex) so we'll all start with a crappy current ability I checked with some Championship teams, and we're not far off, probably better than a lot already.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
I checked with some Championship teams, and we're not far off, probably better than a lot already.

So are you saying that this is going to be easy?:confused:

Well Ruud, I really don't know why I'm complaining, thanks for doing all this :crazyboy:

Originally posted by TottiNZidaneR#1
So are you saying that this is going to be easy?:confused: No, with such a young squad, it's going to be hard to find 7 outfield players who can finish 90 minutes :crazyboy:

same here, also im in group 1 :rockman:

TROD.

I think CM Old Skoolers should automatically be group 1 :( :( :(

lmao, calumn and liam barelly come here anymore :( And im no longer mod.....

TROD.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
No, with such a young squad, it's going to be hard to find 7 outfield players who can finish 90 minutes :crazyboy:

Cool and also thanks alot for doing all this.

but ruud has a cm old skooler thing in his sig.....................................and hes really cool too (Y) i like holland!

Which group should I be?

I am quite active here, post good things, give great tips, make the newbies feel welcome(H) :p Should I continue?

You make me feel uneasy :( :drevil: :gavin:

Same as Rob, then :)

I'm not going to answer anymore questions having to do with group placement.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Same as Rob, then :)

I'm not going to answer anymore questions having to do with group placement.
Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love, A bad name (bad name)

Lol jk. So.. just to clarify.. my potential will be between 150-180?

Not clarifying anything yet. Might change if we become champions of england in our second season on a holiday game, or if we go to Conference South in 4...

Wait.. what league will we be in?

Championship to start with.

Oh.. so it's not like a rise from the grave type story..:(

No, PC requirement stuff... Was good to do that on CM 01/02, but FM... 512MB minimum for LLM games :(

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
No, PC requirement stuff... Was good to do that on CM 01/02, but FM... 512MB minimum for LLM games :(

LLM? Low League Manager/managing?

Damnit. Who doesn't have 512MB in this day and age?? :crazyboy: :hump:

my Mac upstairs

TROD.

Yeah, that's it.
Most people do, but it's kind of harsh to force Cody to spend all his money on a new PC. :(

So.. why is it more demanding than if you use like 5 leagues??

Well, you can have a larger db-setting like this. This means opposition will be stronger in a game like this. Also, after 3/4 seasons, progression will become slower no matter what, so starting higher up does mean faster gameplay.

Thought of another reason: If we are to be at Conference National level at the start of the game, we'd never get beyond League Two, and if we are to get beyond League Two, the players will turn out so good, we'll be FA Cup winners in the third season.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
Yeah, that's it.
Most people do, but it's kind of harsh to force Cody to spend all his money on a new PC. :(

:p :p poor old cody, suprises me he was never recomended for mod really.

TROD.

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
We're keeping the sign up procedure easy this time. The players will be almost completely random. Bad part is that I need to come up with a good scheme to hand out current ability. If I don't set a current ability, older participants, like us two, Alex, will turn out really bad, and never get any better. This is what I got for now:

AGE % PA
-6 -7 -8 -9 -10

13 10 12 14 16 18 20
14 15 18 21 24 27 30
15 25 30 35 40 45 50
16 35 42 49 56 63 70
17 45 54 63 72 81 90
18 55 66 77 88 99 110
19 65 78 91 104 117 130
20 75 90 105 120 135 150
21 80 96 112 128 144 160
22 85 102 119 136 153 170
23 90 108 126 144 162 180
24 95 114 133 152 171 190
25 100 120 140 160 180 200
26 100 120 140 160 180 200
27 98 117 137 156 176 196
28 95 114 133 152 171 190
29 90 108 126 144 162 180
30 85 102 119 136 153 170 CA
Group: 4 3 2 1

This is the division of the groups, btw:
- FM/CM Mods and extremely high quality posters FM/CM-forum
- Other mods (including supermods) Regular posters FM/CM-forum
- Casual posters FM/CM-forum and top posters SG
- Others

Explain me a bit, I'm a bit confused :p

I suppose I'm on group 3, if not correct me, and I'm 19

So, according to that table, I'll be a player with CA91 and PA-7

If I guess well, the system is great, if not, explain me please :crazyboy:

BTW, could you put the variables for -7 as you explained -9?

It'll be a good idea if you explain everyone of this, so, clumsy people like me could understand better (H) :crazyboy:

I should be group 1 coz im cool (H)

Originally posted by Rob
I should be group 1 coz im cool (H)

No.
























































Cause ur name is Rob! (H)

Oh (H)

bloody hell guys :p
i spend one day playing cricket, and u go and talk 2 pages of crap :p
all this group placement, pretty much a whole conversation between ruud and trod, and a few odd comments from other randoms :p

Originally posted by Rob
I should be group 1 coz im cool (H)

not cool enough.... you gotta be much cooler if you want to be in group 1, like me (H)

I've been around for like 3 years since CM 4. So that's three versions of the game. And I post here often too.

Originally posted by doggy_j5
bloody hell guys :p
i spend one day playing cricket, and u go and talk 2 pages of crap :p
all this group placement, pretty much a whole conversation between ruud and trod, and a few odd comments from other randoms :p

I know what you mean lol i spend a day watching the cricket. Bloody oath Lara is f*cking awesome. And these people talk like theres no tomorrow

Originally posted by Fernandez
I've been around for like 3 years since CM 4. So that's three versions of the game. And I post here often too.

That's why your in group 2 I guess just like me. We're regular posters.

Stop whining about what group youre in boys:kader:




Be thankfull that there doing this for you


































But you girls can winge as much as you want(H)

yeh deadset, i was gonna say earlier, lets can the
"i think i should b in this group cos i did this, and i did that..."
ruud will work that out, he didnt ask for ur opinion of what group ur in, hes a supermod for crying out loud, he knows how often u guys post etc, he sees ALL! :Bow: :jacko: :gavin: :lui: :read: :rofl:

i just wanna be in it

:(

damn me for not posting enough

Originally posted by NIDOKING
BTW, could you put the variables for -7 as you explained -9? I'm not entirely sure yet, but I'll just put an estimated list:
-1: 0- 20
-2: 10- 40
-3: 30- 60
-4: 50- 80
-5: 70-100
-6: 90-120
-7: 110-140
-8: 130-160
-9: 150-180
-10: 170-200

How many actual people are we expecting?

I dunno, maybe 20-30, if we keep all the info in the FM and CM boards.

Depends on if some supermod/admin is willing to post a board-wide announcement (we'd have a lot of group 1 people that way :))
We'd get at least twice as many sign ups that way.

If we do hit it big, we could fill up reserves and the youth team (H) (yes I realise that would put me in the youth team. But I would play myself anyway :D)

but then wouldn't there be like people from the fifa forums who've never played FM signing up, and then i'd have to play with them in the game:(

So? They'd be really bad, compared to the likes of us, so you can sell them on.

Thats true. I say we keep it to this forum, for the sake of the whole idea of playing with people you know ;)

You missed my previous post, obviously. Look back at the bottom of the last page. :jap:

Mm... but wemight aswell just chuck random players in then..because they mean about as much as some f**king FIFA fans do.:o :p

The random players would be the gray ones you cannot sell... :brow:

Nah, I mean, if some guy on the FIFA forums decides to sign up, he will be just like some random player in the team (NOT the gray ones, the REAL ones.)

Ah..damnit.. :(

Ok. A FIFA Fan you dont know/care about or A Random player you dont know/careabout? Not much difference :(

The AI won't assign any contracted randoms to teams, though. You're stuck with the people who signed up, and greyed out filler players. Might as well fill all the squads.

One thing: I can't assign people to first team/reserves/youth team. The AI does that.

Meh, never mind, this is going nowhere :p

Anyway. Will you wait and see how many people sign up from this forum first?

I think it should be restricted to people who have posted in here. At least.. once or something, who actually have the game. I mean, we'll have enough people to fill two teams with subs, with just people on this forum, don't you think?

Wait, sorry, I'll let you do your thing (H)

If the sign up thread gets opened on monday, announcements could be posted on wednesday. That way regular posters will get first shot at signing up. We'll have 40 max sign ups (more will be too many), and people of group 1 have reserved spots.

Sounds good. So it's first come first serve? :mrpimp:

*gets ready to camp outside the player submission thread (H)

I've been thinking for a sec:

18x first team
16x reserves
16x youths

50 total, so we'll have 50 spots, not 40. If we do get that many people, I'll adjust the budget accordingly.

:o


Damn, I hope I know everyone (H)

do we really need 50?
i mean, we could just have 40
and give us money to steal all the good younguns on the game, cos (assuming out reputation is crap) they'd probly b the only ppl we could sign
and personally i like signing the youngstars like Ze Mario and Fabio Paim etc and lettin em come thru the ranks slowly...

Im the only player you'll need to know(H)





In the sign up can we make it that the persons forum user name is like a middle name so then we can easily identify who people are

No, first name and last name are your real names, your NICKNAME can be your forum name. But middle name sounds better? Dunno.

25 first-team
15 reserves
10 u18s

we could....
but Justin 'doggy_j5' Carlier sucks....
mayb we could put it in their player info somehow, b bit easier

That would make Max Zlatan van Deurzen. Meh scratch that.

Seeing the people who posted in the stadium poll thread there are about 30 people intrested in this. I think we should stick to that amount of players.

ive posted here pretty much since 01/02 but never really been a regular. but ive always been there abouts, im the phil neville of champ man posting?? (H) so what section will i be in? i demand to be the john hartson of the team (H) (H) (H) (H)

Originally posted by doggy_j5
we could....
but Justin 'doggy_j5' Carlier sucks.... Not only that, FM only shows nicknames, if they are set.

Originally posted by doggy_j5
mayb we could put it in their player info somehow, b bit easier It's impossible to add text to a person's info, other than city of birth.

Hey, it's a good way to get to know everyone, innit?

You know how there is the description? ie; Explosive striker? If they're changeable, we could give people descriptions like.. Explosive wanker :wootman:

We should reserve some spots to those who are of the FM community and open up the remaining slots to the rest of the forum. That would be the most fairest thing. I really want to play with the likes of Rob and Bobby.

Just make sure you don't tell too many people about it, and sign up before the announcement is made :)

Originally posted by Deutschland
we could give people descriptions like.. Explosive wanker :wootman:
i dont think it'd b fair if we created a description just for u :p

Originally posted by rpvankasteren
If the sign up thread gets opened on monday, announcements could be posted on wednesday. That way regular posters will get first shot at signing up. We'll have 40 max sign ups (more will be too many), and people of group 1 have reserved spots.

That's sounds great, that way the people who actually play FM will be in the game but there won't be any grey players in the youth and reserves.

wooot. another 6 pages since last night. Jeeezzz. So lemme get this str8. Everything has been decided, and we'll be open for signups on monday?
And ruud pay msn a visit im a bit lost now, me needs guidance. I'll might still be able to help one way or another wheneva im online