The 4th Round Draw will be held on 10th Jan 2004 at 1.30pm British time.

to hear the draw live, tune in tomorrow

http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/Round-by-Round/Postings/2005/01/TheFACup_4thRound.htm

1 Arsenal
2 Middlesbrough
3 Manchester United or Exeter City
4 Everton
5 Leicester City or Blackpool
6 Derby County
7 Sunderland
8 Wolverhampton Wanderers
9 Newcastle United
10 Colchester United
11 Tottenham Hotspur
12 Reading or Swansea City
13 Birmingham City
14 Hartlepool United or Boston United
15 Peterborough United
16 Oldham Athletic
17 Chelsea
18 Cardiff City or Blackburn Rovers
19 Charlton Athletic
20 West Ham United
21 Sheffield United
22 West Bromwich Albion
23 Yeovil Town
24 Burnley or Liverpool
25 Chester City
26 Coventry City
27 Watford or Fulham
28 Bolton Wanderers
29 Portsmouth
30 Southampton
31 Nottingham Forest
32 Brentford

Derby v Watford/Fulham
Exeter/Man Utd v Middlesbrough
Cardiff/Blackb'n v Colchester
Chelsea v Birmingham
West Ham v Sheff Utd
Oldham v Bolton
Arsenal v Wolves
Everton v Sunderland
Nottm Forest v Peterborough
Brentford v Hartlepool/Boston
Reading/Swansea v Leicester/Blackpool
Burnley/Liverp'l v Bournemouth
Southampton v Portsmouth
West Brom v Spurs
Newcastle v Coventry
Charlton v Yeovil

Oh no, we could end up playing our bogey team.

Southampton vs Pourtsmoth
should be good (H)

If we get past Burnley i don't want to sound cocky after Man u drawed with Exeter city but u would think we would get past Bournemouth.Im glad its at home so Bournemouth will get a big day out like Exeter city and S****horpe did.
(H)

****. The Blades did us 2-0 at home in the league last week. Here's hoping for a better result this time.

Southampton v Portsmouth looks tasty!!

although exeter v boro is the tie of the round!! :funny:

We should have ended up playing Portsmouth:(

wow, Exeter could end up with 2 big pay days in a row.

****IN GET IN THERE!

Scum away, couldnt be better, well it could.. Home... But ****it as long as we're playin against that scum ****, harry's gonna die. n so are they i want a draw more than anythin. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by AberdeenFC


although exeter v boro is the tie of the round!!

Absolutely. Will be interesting to see what tactics Steve Maclaren employs against Exeter. I guess he would prefer the somewhat less goal-threatening Manchester United, considering boro's good record against his former employers.

Tie(s) of the round: South Coast Derby followed by another derby for Oldham against Bolton.

Originally posted by rhizome17
Absolutely. Will be interesting to see what tactics Steve Maclaren employs against Exeter. I guess he would prefer the somewhat less goal-threatening Manchester United, considering boro's good record against his former employers.

Like when they lost 1-0 to United at the Riverside Stadium earlier in the year?

Originally posted by Digitarius
Like when they lost 1-0 to United at the Riverside Stadium earlier in the year? It was 2-0:rolleyes:

Yes it was. I stand corrected.

earlier in the year (H) the year is only 10 days old!!

anyway, come on southampton just to piss off amdy (H) :p

Man Utd will pump about 6 in against Exeter.
They will be looking to save face.

Originally posted by Digitarius
Like when they lost 1-0 to United at the Riverside Stadium earlier in the year?

If it is just the last game that counts, then I guess United will be going in as underdogs against Exeter on the 19th :rolleyes:

You all wish that Boro played Exeter, but you all know that United will play boro.

Hey, with all the money Exeter are collecting, they will be able to pay off all their debt and still have change for the five-pound transfer fee Bellion will be commanding (H)

It's just not the same without Stoke. It's really not :(

Originally posted by AberdeenFC
come on southampton just to piss off amdy (H) :p

You'd like that eh! :( We'lllllll see....

Well it's not gonna happen! I want a draw the most, and to win off the pitch :D as long as they get done, im happy! I went twice last year and prolly the 2 best days out i've ever had.

Go Aberdeen :kader:

Originally posted by rhizome17
If it is just the last game that counts, then I guess United will be going in as underdogs against Exeter on the 19th :rolleyes:

Why would that be? Is it because Man Utd didn't actually lose to Exeter? Or because they had more possession in the game? Or because they could have won the game with more or less the last kick of the game? Or is it because they're likely to field a stronger side for the replay?

Don't over look Derby-Fulham. There's serious history between these two, going back to the 70/80's when Derby fans stormed the pitch when they were winning, beat up women and children, chucked pigs heads into the away fans and pissed into the away end. AND STILL WON THE MATCH BECUASE IT WAS CALLED OFF BECAUSE OF PITCH INVASION, MEANING WE DIDNT GO UP!!!

THe older Fulham fans hate Derby, so it should be a bit tasty.

Originally posted by Digitarius
Why would that be? Is it because Man Utd didn't actually lose to Exeter? Or because they had more possession in the game? Or because they could have won the game with more or less the last kick of the game? Or is it because they're likely to field a stronger side for the replay?

Because the home team has an advantage... and if you drew at home, chances are you are bound to lose away... and if you drew away then chances are you will win at home... and blah blah blah I won't bother because any bookmaker will tell you that.

Exeter were paying $40 to win as opposed to United paying $1.03... I wonder what the odds will be now. THe draw alone was worth a whopping $12, when most games only pay out around $3 for a draw.

Anyway, fact remains, boro have an exceptional record against you guys over the last couple of seasons. Prove me wrong.

and if you drew at home, chances are you are bound to lose away

The same chances that led to a 2-0 defeat for Middlesbrough after they got a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford this season?

Exeter were paying $40 to win as opposed to United paying $1.03... I wonder what the odds will be now.

And I think Exeter are still 10,000:1 to win the FA Cup.



Anyway, fact remains, boro have an exceptional record against you guys over the last couple of seasons. Prove me wrong.

If it's just the past two seasons, then the record stands like this:

United 2-3 Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough 0-1 United
United 1-1 Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough 0-2 United

So that stands at two wins for United, one for Boro, and one draw. Hardly what I call exceptional. It's ok, but certainly not exceptional.

Originally posted by Digitarius
The same chances that led to a 2-0 defeat for Middlesbrough after they got a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford this season?

And again, you prove my original point that you can't use just the one previous game as a form guide.... so you are doing the work for me on this one. You are actually arguing against yourself here... :confused:


Originally posted by Digitarius
And I think Exeter are still 10,000:1 to win the FA Cup.

Odds of Exeter winning the FA Cup run from 999:1 at Bet Fair through to 12,000:1 at VC Bet.


Originally posted by Digitarius
If it's just the past two seasons, then the record stands like this:

United 2-3 Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough 0-1 United
United 1-1 Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough 0-2 United

So that stands at two wins for United, one for Boro, and one draw. Hardly what I call exceptional. It's ok, but certainly not exceptional.

:o

I do believe you have included THIS seasons results rather than looking at the PAST couple of seasons as I stated...

which would make it:

2002-2003 03-Sep Manchester United 1-0 Middlesbrough
26-Dec Middlesbrough 3-1 Manchester United
2003-2004 28-Dec Middlesbrough 0-1 Manchester United
11-Feb Manchester United 2-3 Middlesbrough

Which would make it 2 wins for boro, 2 for united... and an aggregate of 6-5 in favour of boro :o Not bad really.

Jizzome you Bitter (H)

Juninho scored a header against United, he's like 3-foot-7