great game konami this year, thanx for gettin rid of hanballs, but i have some complaints.

1) i know referees arent that consistent in real life, but pleaaaaase try and make them a little more consistent in the next game, cause it makes me and ma mates argue over the desisions too much!

2) when the goal keeper or the last defender makes a foul......SEND THEM OFF!!! this also causes arguements, cause one guy i play is a cheatin b*****d if im in front of goal!

3) if a player is recieving treatment off the pitch, dont call them offside, if the ball goes near them!

4) and last one, i only have a gamecube, so have to put up with fifa this year, its ok, but not the same.............BRING OUT PES5 ON GAMECUBE, PLEASE!!!

thanx!!!!

LOL! sorry wrong thread, can someone move this, to the pes forum??

Dude..

1) The Handballs haven't been removed, they have been IMPROVED. I saw my goal keeper sliding just out of the box, Raul runs past him and the ball is accidentally blocked by James' arm.... the Referee whistles for a handball... very very EXTREMELY realistic. I haven't seen it happen again.... also very very realistic. This is all what Konami is about.. plain enjoyable realism. Removing a move to solve a problem sounds more like EA's easy and crappy way of sloving ANY problem.

2) My keeper was sent off after tackling a player WITH HIS ARMS inside the box after closely running past him.... also very realistic. Also the same happens with a defender IF his tackle is so irrelavent to the ball. Konami takes care of mostly everything.

One word: The Gameplay is NEAR perfect.. I hope next year's game focuses more on the graphics quality (the animations, moves and stadiums are PERFECT.. it's quality and rendering that I'm talking about if you know what I mean).

Throw Ins are a bit gay

I hate it when the keeper claims an easy ball and then decides to fall on the floor and lie there like he's been shot when you could have a break away

Can't control goalkicks well enough, it's eith hoof or short pass, no in between

I can't fathom the shooting model, the directions I press seem to have no relevance as to where the ball goes.

Shame players don't slide to keep the ball in play like the used to in PES 2, that was great but this year not so.

Love the skills

Love the chip system

Gameplay, years ahead of fifa

Headings pretty darn good, much better than fifa

animations perfect