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Brett
22-01-2005, 07:04:AM
I'm a FIFA fan... no longer!!!

I have bought the last 8 FIFA games; but FIFA 2005 was the straw that broke this camel’s (idiot’s) back. It wasn’t until I started reading forums like this that I discovered that FIFA wasn’t the only option. After FIFA WC 2002, FIFA has been going downhill fast. EA ignores everything gamers want and continues to make a profit on those less educated gamers (or the casual gamer).

My favorite thing to play is international cups; I haven’t been able to do so since FIFA 2003. And I have not played with my country Peru since FIFA 2002. I noticed that W11 has Peru (and S. Korea, another favorite of mine not available in FIFA 2005).

I am still a bit hesitant, due to the fact that I have not played
W11 for myself. FIFA 2005 graphics are good and so is the game-play (at least for me).

But what is really pushing me towards W11 is EA’s “we don’t give a crap” attitude. Despite fans that beg for real editing features, better animations that show passion, an international cup mode, S. American squads (Peru, Colombia, Ecuador etc), classic squads (Maradona, Pele etc), EA has continued to ignore all of our pleas and has not included any of these features since 2002.

So that is it!!! Come Feb 2 I am leaving the EA realm and joining the Konami community.

DO I HEAR A “WELCOME FRIEND”... I thought so...

:bouncy: :lui: :bob: :fluffy: :jacko:

P.S.: I've always been a critic of EA, but now I am acting on it. Oh yeah and how about EA buying the exclusive rights to the NFL. Now Sega can't make an NFL game. It figures because that is the only way EA was going to beat the ESPN 2k5 series, through a monopoly...

Zygalski
22-01-2005, 07:30:AM
“WELCOME FRIEND”
:bouncy: :lui: :bob: :fluffy: :jacko:



:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Bummy_JaB
22-01-2005, 07:34:AM
Wassup bretheren,

I too, like you was once a big fifa fan. That is until WE6I came out here in America. Since than I cannot stop playing WE8 that I imported from Japan. And Im waiting for WE8LE.

If you have a modified PS2 I suggest you buy WE8LE because those damn Japos always save the best for themselves :(

Brett
22-01-2005, 07:57:AM
Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
Wassup bretheren,

I too, like you was once a big fifa fan. That is until WE6I came out here in America. Since than I cannot stop playing WE8 that I imported from Japan. And Im waiting for WE8LE.

If you have a modified PS2 I suggest you buy WE8LE because those damn Japos always save the best for themselves :(

Unfortunately I have an XBOX, so not patches or modifying for me. :(

Still, playing with Peru and other S. American international teams is good enough for me. :amika: :wootman:

PapaDcfc
22-01-2005, 08:11:AM
Just crossed over myself a couple months ago and never going to look back. I guarantee you'll be hooked with in the first 1/2 hr my friend. No more EA footie for me after almost a decade.

TristanAbbott7
22-01-2005, 08:21:AM
Welcome man.

Brett
22-01-2005, 08:39:AM
Originally posted by PapaDcfc
Just crossed over myself a couple months ago and never going to look back. I guarantee you'll be hooked with in the first 1/2 hr my friend. No more EA footie for me after almost a decade.

Are most of you guys already playing W11-8?

It is not hard to see how you guys love W11. Not like the FIFA forum where all we do is trash the game (with good reason too). :rockman:

Brett
22-01-2005, 08:41:AM
Originally posted by TristanAbbott7
Welcome man.

"Making kits for FIFA 2004 is a bit like putting my cat in a NASA uniform - he may look official but he's no freaking astronaut!"

LOL man... you mind if I post it on the FIFA forum?

Pizarro14
22-01-2005, 09:01:AM
i'am on ur side brett i understand everything ur saying.



also btw i bought PES4 FOR ps2

what should i get W11 8 for pc or ps2?

PIPEÑO
22-01-2005, 09:03:AM
Good to see someone waking up

Brett
22-01-2005, 09:21:AM
Originally posted by Pizarro14
i'am on ur side brett i understand everything ur saying.



also btw i bought PES4 FOR ps2

what should i get W11 8 for pc or ps2?


Good to hear from a fellow Peruvian brother (and from Miami too). Maybe we even play in the same park (Coral Gables Youth Center sounds familiar maybe?). In any case it is going to be awesome playing with Peru.

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bouncy: :lui: :rockman:

Pizarro14
22-01-2005, 10:19:AM
bro are you getting W11 8 for pc or ps2? brett


bro I live in Pembroke Pines not sure if u heard of it. its awesome to hear from a fellow peruano ;)

jefferson goh
22-01-2005, 12:42:PM
welcome

Rocky
22-01-2005, 02:35:PM
Welcome:p

Parker
22-01-2005, 02:47:PM
Welcome to the light side of the force. :D

niceman
22-01-2005, 08:50:PM
Originally posted by Brett
I'm a FIFA fan... no longer!!!

I have bought the last 8 FIFA games; but FIFA 2005 was the straw that broke this camel’s (idiot’s) back. It wasn’t until I started reading forums like this that I discovered that FIFA wasn’t the only option. After FIFA WC 2002, FIFA has been going downhill fast. EA ignores everything gamers want and continues to make a profit on those less educated gamers (or the casual gamer).

My favorite thing to play is international cups; I haven’t been able to do so since FIFA 2003. And I have not played with my country Peru since FIFA 2002. I noticed that W11 has Peru (and S. Korea, another favorite of mine not available in FIFA 2005).

I am still a bit hesitant, due to the fact that I have not played
W11 for myself. FIFA 2005 graphics are good and so is the game-play (at least for me).

But what is really pushing me towards W11 is EA’s “we don’t give a crap” attitude. Despite fans that beg for real editing features, better animations that show passion, an international cup mode, S. American squads (Peru, Colombia, Ecuador etc), classic squads (Maradona, Pele etc), EA has continued to ignore all of our pleas and has not included any of these features since 2002.

So that is it!!! Come Feb 2 I am leaving the EA realm and joining the Konami community.

DO I HEAR A “WELCOME FRIEND”... I thought so...

:bouncy: :lui: :bob: :fluffy: :jacko:

P.S.: I've always been a critic of EA, but now I am acting on it. Oh yeah and how about EA buying the exclusive rights to the NFL. Now Sega can't make an NFL game. It figures because that is the only way EA was going to beat the ESPN 2k5 series, through a monopoly...

Well good for u i was just about to start my (in)famous FIFA bashig as i saw this thread:crazyboy:

johan
23-01-2005, 12:30:AM
Good to have ya` here..

Now sit back and enjoy the real football experience.

Panna
23-01-2005, 12:57:AM
Another convert! Praise the LORD! :rockman:

Ny8La8
23-01-2005, 02:25:AM
WELCOME!

I too was in your position once. Doesn't it feel great to be enlightened!! :rockman:

PapaDcfc
23-01-2005, 05:04:AM
Man I tell ya PUREFOOTBALL it feels great to be enlightened.
MIGUEL you quoted me back on the 21st and then asked about who's playing WE8I. I'm still playing WE7I but most these katz are playing WE8I. I've just got to wait a week and a 1/2 till I get that call from EB Games saying my first official copy of a KONAMI footie game has finally arrived. I can't wait #7 has just blown me right out of the water and #8 sounds even deeper and better. I wish I found KONAMI at least 8yrs ago but by the sounds of it I've converted at a good time. Like I told you before, coming from a former recent EA footie fan to another possible cross-over, don't think twice just jump in. If your a real footie fan you'll do it.

yagami
23-01-2005, 05:48:AM
what tha hell ???

you are leaving fifa because it doesnt have the teams you want and the animations you want ???

better stick with fifa then !

join WE or PES if you want gameplay and real simulation.

if you want stadiums graphics and animations ( since players graphics suck on fifa ) better stay there..


i mean , you are welcome , sure , but just make sure you come for the right reasons

ronaldo9
23-01-2005, 06:30:AM
i mean , you are welcome , sure , but just make sure you come for the right reasons


exactley, we are talking about GAMEPLAY my friend,
if u love football or if u play football in real life, thats the right game for u

jumbo
23-01-2005, 09:16:AM
What's this, FIFAnz(R) class of 95-05 reunion? :brow:

You guys got all banned from FIFOrumz(R) o' wat? :evil:

:p

matthewfever
23-01-2005, 11:51:AM
I started playing as it was known then ISS PRO 98. My friends were all big FIFA fans, it was FIFA 99 i think. and anyway we gathered down our mate andys house 1 day a week to thrash it on on his playstation. One day after about a month of playing ISS i took it down there, they were reluctent to play it at all, i had to argue, beg, pleed "just one game of it then we go back to FIFA i promise". Well needless to say FIFA was never loaded again. RIP

MentatYP
24-01-2005, 11:38:PM
Continuing the "I switched too" lovefest...

I played FIFA for PC from the very first version. Remember? It didn't even have a year after the game's name :) Those were the days when FIFA was fun, and it was the only game in town. After a few years of not offering much innovation or improvement in gameplay I gave up on them back in 2000 or so. Then in 2003 I discovered WE6i for the PS2 and I was in heaven. THIS is how footie games are supposed to work. Since then I've played WE7 and eagerly await Feb. 1st when WE8 will make it's US invasion.

Until FIFA offers gameplay realism similar to WE, I will never touch it again. Licenses can be modded, but crappy gameplay cannot.

andymate
25-01-2005, 11:24:AM
I too have changed over. Have only played fifa since iss on snes and was getting dam annoyed esp when i started playing multiplayer of it. All my mates always want to play fifa 2005, even though i beat them i do it nearly the same way every game exploiting the games very static ai. E.g. ( throughballs in a 3-3-4 setup - easy goals, crossing the ball is nearly a goal everytime) Also the defenders have a severe advantage over the attacking players, can outrun them, also incompetant goal keepers..

Anyway i believe pes has a better feel in gameplay cept the dpad movement and fifa has a better feel due to having the rights to all the clubs and the premier league. Join pes 4s gameplay and fifas rights and full 360 movement with players (no 9 way dpad) and you would have a fantastic game.

but for now its pes on xbox, btw is pes 3 better then pes 4?

Brett
26-01-2005, 03:50:AM
Originally posted by yagami
what tha hell ???

you are leaving fifa because it doesnt have the teams you want and the animations you want ???

better stick with fifa then !

join WE or PES if you want gameplay and real simulation.

if you want stadiums graphics and animations ( since players graphics suck on fifa ) better stay there..


i mean , you are welcome , sure , but just make sure you come for the right reasons

I can’t talk about W11 gameplay because I haven’t really played it (I will soon though, Feb2). Now, as for leaving due to the wrong reasons... who cares, as long as I’m leaving the MONOPOLY Giant known as EA (bastards took away the NFL 2k series from all of us, in case you haven’t heard yet).
So your right, I might be leaving for reasons other than gameplay, but just from reading your e-mails I can tell that you guys love W11. Have you seen the FIFA forum? Everyone just complaints (including me) all the time, there’s no love there man. And look, playing with Peru is huge for me, no doubt it is...
I’m just excited right now, especially since W11 is coming to the XBOX. I had no choice in the matter before since my computer sucks and I don’t have a PS2.

Plus, you guys are coming over to say “welcome, glad you woke up etc...” That is pretty cool mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:clapwap: :brow: :lui: :bob: :taz:

yagami
26-01-2005, 11:23:PM
brett , what i mean is , that we are very happy players because of the gameplay.

please remember , that , there is a lots of "false" teams on PES.

also , FIFA has alot more teams , more animations , very cool stadium graphics.

is just that , if you are just coming for the graphics and real teams ( although to me , the player graphics and net and etc are way much better than fifa's ) , you might be dissapointed.

i think that even fifa 2005 has all the portuguese superliga teams ... PES has only 3. ( just an example )

but welcome :)

matthewfever
26-01-2005, 11:28:PM
yagami ur blatently a fifa fan, fo! ur chattin bull

pro4 has much better grapics than fifa, in fifa they look like they have disjointed bodys. its freaky, and it looks like the shirts are painted on. get outta here

Brett
27-01-2005, 01:49:AM
Originally posted by yagami
brett , what i mean is , that we are very happy players because of the gameplay.

please remember , that , there is a lots of "false" teams on PES.

also , FIFA has alot more teams , more animations , very cool stadium graphics.

is just that , if you are just coming for the graphics and real teams ( although to me , the player graphics and net and etc are way much better than fifa's ) , you might be dissapointed.

i think that even fifa 2005 has all the portuguese superliga teams ... PES has only 3. ( just an example )

but welcome :)

OK, I understand and agree to a great extent.
Perhaps I am placing my hopes too high in hoping that W11 will restore the fun I once had with older FIFA titles. But I am prepared to accept graphic downgrades in exchange for a truly fun experience made up of other elements aside from graphics and licensing superiority issues.
I am hoping that W11 will do that for me. :sun:

Still, I appreciate the heads-up.:)

Nuno
27-01-2005, 03:38:AM
Originally posted by Brett
OK, I understand and agree to a great extent.
Perhaps I am placing my hopes too high in hoping that W11 will restore the fun I once had with older FIFA titles. But I am prepared to accept graphic downgrades in exchange for a truly fun experience made up of other elements aside from graphics and licensing superiority issues.
I am hoping that W11 will do that for me. :sun:

Still, I appreciate the heads-up.:)

Dude don't worry. WE will make you wonder why you ever played Fifa.

PapaDcfc
27-01-2005, 07:00:AM
Thanks NUNO thats what I wanted to hear, under a week for me till I receive WE8I. :jacko:

ronaldo9
27-01-2005, 07:34:AM
talking about graphic, i always wos saying fifas graphic is better then pes, not anymore sins pes3,4 came out

yagami
27-01-2005, 07:01:PM
yagami ur blatently a fifa fan, fo! ur chattin bull

ohh ... do i know you ? you obviously know me very well , in fact better than myself , since i didnt knew i was a fifa fan.


pro4 has much better grapics than fifa, in fifa they look like they have disjointed bodys. its freaky, and it looks like the shirts are painted on. get outta here

maybe you are the one who should learn to read english before you post in here

perhaps I am placing my hopes too high in hoping that W11

well , if you care anything about gameplay , or reall soccer , or soccer simulation ... no , you are not placing your hopes too high

in fact , if you only played fifa series until now ... dont worry , put them as high as you want , it will still be short , you will be amazed

Nuno
27-01-2005, 09:06:PM
Originally posted by PapaDcfc
Thanks NUNO thats what I wanted to hear, under a week for me till I receive WE8I. :jacko:

By this time next week we'll have it. I can't wait. I've been playing PES4 on my PC for months, but I'd prefer to play it on my PS2. I can relax in bed if I play it on the PS2. The computer chair is making my back ache...:(

matthewfever
27-01-2005, 09:23:PM
Originally posted by Nuno79
By this time next week we'll have it. I can't wait. I've been playing PES4 on my PC for months, but I'd prefer to play it on my PS2. I can relax in bed if I play it on the PS2. The computer chair is making my back ache...:(

Buy one of these converters from me and have the playstation feel to the pc version. matthewleefever@hotmail.com

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/9780/pspc6ik.jpg

Nuno
27-01-2005, 09:29:PM
Originally posted by matthewfever
Buy one of these converters from me and have the playstation feel to the pc version. matthewleefever@hotmail.com

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/9780/pspc6ik.jpg

I got a better one than that. And it's not about the controller. It about the comupter chair vs bed. I prefer the bed. :)

matthewfever
27-01-2005, 09:37:PM
ah i c. :crazyboy:

biker_jim_uk
27-01-2005, 09:45:PM
but on PC you get real kits, nicer ball ;) and other stuff

like this ;)
http://www.jim.brindle.btinternet.co.uk/PES4/Peru/pic192.jpg

Nuno
27-01-2005, 09:59:PM
Bah! I could care less about real kits. It's all about the gameplay to me. Besides Real Madrid have real kits. Plus it has the Roteiro ball which is my fav.

I sit in a computer chair all day at work. When I go home, I'd much rather sit/lie in bed then on a computer chair.

biker_jim_uk
27-01-2005, 10:00:PM
ok, but the gameplay is the same with real kits

Nuno
27-01-2005, 10:06:PM
It has real kits on the PS2. My bed is super cozy. F*ck the computer chair. To hell with them!!!!!!!!

yagami
27-01-2005, 10:12:PM
nuno79 hehe , i have a very cosy computer chair :)

Nuno
27-01-2005, 11:33:PM
Originally posted by yagami
nuno79 hehe , i have a very cosy computer chair :)

There is no such thing. Bed is the best and coziest.

ezio
28-01-2005, 12:05:AM
Welcome to the Tribe :) You won't regret it. Most of us started out playing Fifa till we found we/pes and you won't ever look back :)

ezio
28-01-2005, 12:07:AM
Originally posted by biker_jim_uk
but on PC you get real kits, nicer ball ;) and other stuff

like this ;)
http://www.jim.brindle.btinternet.co.uk/PES4/Peru/pic192.jpg

You can get that on the PS2 also. Not sure about x-box though. I assume you would need a modded one.

Ezio

biker_jim_uk
28-01-2005, 12:39:AM
yes I know, but you need modded PS2 too!
And editing PC is much much easier

Nuno
28-01-2005, 12:41:AM
Originally posted by biker_jim_uk
And editing PC is much much easier

Bed!!!! I want to play in bed dammit!!!!









wait a sec....that didn't sound right...

yagami
28-01-2005, 04:30:AM
dammit nuno , get a laptop !!

get it with a good battery , and you can even play under the blankets

matthewfever
28-01-2005, 04:34:AM
lol, put ur pc in front of ur bed like me, im sitting cross legged on it right now

Bummy_JaB
28-01-2005, 05:41:AM
Well my PC is doodoo right now... So I have to play on my modded ps2...

Plus I will have WE8LE and yall wont hahahhaha (H) (H) (H)

lando11
28-01-2005, 10:46:AM
welcome friend :p :p :p

i never play FIFA game series again since FIFA 2002...... boring.........require no skills....... :p

ezio
28-01-2005, 08:49:PM
Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
Well my PC is doodoo right now... So I have to play on my modded ps2...

Plus I will have WE8LE and yall wont hahahhaha (H) (H) (H)

Yeah I already pre-ordered WE8LE and even though we most likely will not be able to play online the offline game should be great. Looking forward to it.

Ezio

kenjiUSA
28-01-2005, 09:34:PM
no one is like me, my friend and i played WE2, 3 on PS1( A PS1 was really expensive in my country at that time, so we pay some money to its owner and he lets us play for a specific a mount of time depend on the money we paid him) when I was in my home country in south east Asia. When I came to the US, i couldn't afford to buy a PS2 at once, but my parent bought me a PC to study, you know, I am a huge fan of soccer game so I bought FIFA and play, it was a hell of frustrating time untill last year I got a PS2 and spotted WE7I at bestbuy, I was like "here we go my old friend, I'm gonna getcha if it takes all...of my money..I'll getcha good"..hehe..Now, only three more day untill WE8I comes out, and you can bet you bottom dollar in time it's gonna be mine...Yahoooooooooo

Nuno
28-01-2005, 09:36:PM
Originally posted by yagami
dammit nuno , get a laptop !!

get it with a good battery , and you can even play under the blankets

PS2 is made for games. Computer is made for por.....errr I mean studying.

kenjiUSA
28-01-2005, 09:42:PM
Originally posted by Nuno79
PS2 is made for games. Computer is made for por.....errr I mean studying.

I am not sure about it, I once heard a guy said he would do the girl named Xianghua in Soul Calibur 2:rockman:

ezio
28-01-2005, 10:00:PM
Originally posted by Nuno79
PS2 is made for games. Computer is made for por.....errr I mean studying.

LOL. I agree. I prefer playing on the PS2 also.

Ezio

Bummy_JaB
28-01-2005, 10:00:PM
Yea man some chicks in those video games get me hard as hell...:chick:

Nuno
28-01-2005, 10:04:PM
Word. I always seem to pick either Ivy or Taki when I play Soul Calibur 2. I wonder why???

kenjiUSA
29-01-2005, 09:00:AM
how about the girl name Seung Mina, damn
http://www.ironnerd.com/art/other/seungmina.jpg :crazyboy:

PESSuperStar
30-01-2005, 02:28:AM
Originally posted by Brett
Unfortunately I have an XBOX, so not patches or modifying for me. :(

Still, playing with Peru and other S. American international teams is good enough for me. :amika: :wootman:
Amigo