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panxoman 21-02-2005, 05:49:PM Barcelona - Chelsea
Round of 16
23 February 2005
20:45 (CET) Camp Nou - Barcelona
08 March 2005
20:45 (CET) Stamford Bridge - London
Here we have the game thread (thanks for reminding Brazilian_god).
Your comments please ;)
Brazilian_god 21-02-2005, 06:14:PM Im sure Barca will take this one. chelsea is missing Robben, Drogba, Bridge and possible is Duff. Now Gallas has to move to left where he dont play hes best and perfect duo Gallas-Terry has to be broken.
I just hope they dont play 10 men behind ball system at Barcelona...
Go Barca!!
2-0 Barca
Ronaldinho
Eto'o
tracertong 21-02-2005, 06:42:PM Gallas is a doubt now also. Lucky Barcelona - your playing Chelsea at just the right time !
Barcelona 2 Chelsea 0
manutd4eva 21-02-2005, 07:57:PM If Barcelona can give Chelsea a pasting here, it will send their entire season in a downward spiral. It seems all their luck is running out at the same time. Chelsea haven't been in these positions too often and with all their injuries and suspensions, their mental and physical strength will certainly be tested should Ronaldinho and co. decide turn on the style.
RuiCosta_10 21-02-2005, 07:58:PM 0-0...
And Chelsea to win it at home :).
ronnie_4_u 21-02-2005, 08:00:PM Barca 1-1 Chelsea
Goals from Ronnie and Lamps :)
Andrejs 21-02-2005, 08:07:PM Come on Barca!!!
I say 3-0 to Barcelona.
Punkt 21-02-2005, 08:10:PM 2-2 in Barcelona
1-1 in london
Chelsea go through on away goals
(H)
spell 21-02-2005, 08:20:PM 2:0 barcelon
eto`o 2
flash above guard
Dream Team 21-02-2005, 08:43:PM It will be tough for both, I don't see any favorite. I just hope Chelsea don't score in Camp Nou.
xiaoarc 21-02-2005, 09:25:PM 2-0 Barca..Eto'o are classes above the Chelski strikers..Go Barca!! :rockman:
Atlas 21-02-2005, 09:34:PM and Ronaldinho is classes above Chelsea mids. the only advantage Chelsea might have is in defens, but they got some injury problems from last game.
It would have been better for a neutral point of view (like mine), for both teams to be at their best.
0le_Spain 21-02-2005, 09:35:PM Originally posted by Dream Team
I just hope Chelsea don't score in Camp Nou.
Bonzi 21-02-2005, 09:37:PM 2-1 Barca
Eto'O, Deco - Kezman
...
but Chelsea will win 3-1 in London;) :D
Antiyano 21-02-2005, 09:42:PM Barca 1-0, Giuly scoring
Mikey 21-02-2005, 10:09:PM Eto'o blasts Blues
Barcelona striker Samuel Eto'o has launched an outspoken attack on Chelsea ahead of the two giants' UEFA Champions League knockout clash.
Eto'o rejected any notions that Chelsea are unbeatable, and stated that he would punish the London side for not signing him when they had the chance last summer.
The Cameroon international also singled out star striker Didier Drogba and Blues boss Jose Mourinho for criticism, a dangerous tactic that could undoubtedly back-fire when the two teams meet next week.
Eto'o has been La Liga's stand out goal scorer so far this season, and emphatically declared that the Catalan side's dazzling attacking riches would see them triumph over the two legs.
"This is a very special game for everybody involved," said Eto'o.
"The whole world seems to think that Chelsea are invincible and the best team in Europe, but I want to help Barca prove that is not true.
"The major difference between the two sides is in scoring goals. Chelsea win with little effort up front, but we win with loads of goals and there will be no doubt we are superior after these two games.
"Chelsea said they wanted to buy me and then never carried the deal through.
"I will show that they made a huge and expensive mistake. They will realise it most when my goals dump them out of Europe.
"We all know that Petr Cech has not conceded a goal for a long time but then again he has not played against me.
"Playing Barcelona will be a nightmare for Chelsea at the Nou Camp and in London.
Eto'o was crowned African Player of the Year for the second season in succession recently, ahead of Drogba, and announced his superiority over Chelsea's £24 million pound man.
"The attack of Chelsea? It does not worry me," Eto'o continued.
"For a start [Arjen] Robben is injured and Drogba is not better than me.
"Ivory Coast have never beaten Cameroon. I am the best African player, not Drogba, all the world knows that. What has Drogba won?"
Eto'o also reserved a dig for Mourinho's man management style, stating that Barca boss Frank Rijkaard was a superior tactician despite the impressive record of the Portuguese manager.
"Mourinho may have had a lot of success in the past with teams at home and in Europe.
"But I think that Rijkaard knows more about football than the Chelsea boss and how to treat his players properly.
"I have heard that Mourinho does not always speak with his players, which cannot be good for the atmosphere at the club."
Eto'o may have provided Mourinho's men with all the motivation they need after this outburst, and the pressure will be on the Barca hit man to perform to the high standards he has set himself.
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4 days old, but still good stuff.(Y)
He makes some good points, Chelsea's attack (especially without Robben) doesnt scare anybody. Why does a team with such financial power have guys like Kezman, Gudjohnsson and Drogba as their forwards? They can do better, so why dont they?
Eto'o is clearly bitter with Drogba because Ivory Coast is gonna be taking their World Cup place.
Raikkonen 21-02-2005, 10:21:PM can both be eliminated?? :crazyboy:
i think i hate more Barcelona than Chelsea, so: 0 - 1 Lampard
Can't see Chelsea winning this, thet've got too many of their best players out. 2-1 to Barca.
manutd4eva 21-02-2005, 10:32:PM Haha, Eto'o is one cocky mother****er.:D
Panna 21-02-2005, 10:33:PM I hope Barca wins.. I just can't stand that arrogant Mourinho, although Eto'o is a blabbermouth too apparantly
1-0 to Barca
Deco
Dream Team 21-02-2005, 10:42:PM BS, I don't believe a word of that article.
Drvar 21-02-2005, 10:51:PM Etoo came off as really arrogant in that article. Well, i hope Chelsea wins it. 0-0 at Nou camp 1:0 at Stamford bridge.
IceBlu 21-02-2005, 10:58:PM I respect for Eto'o just soared after reading that . Gotto love his arrogance :rockman:
Hopefully his goals help dump Chelsea out like hes predicted.
Go Barca !
ntigers2004 21-02-2005, 11:00:PM 0 - 0 Nou Camp
0 - 1 Chelsea - Stanford Bridge
Early 40 Yard Goal by Lampard (Y)
IceBlu 21-02-2005, 11:05:PM Originally posted by ntigers2004
Stanford Bridge
(H)
[dfm] 22-02-2005, 12:15:AM I like Barça and i want them to go very far in the competition, still i also like Chelsea a little bit because of Mourinho and the portuguese players they have... well may the best team win. (H)
Drvar 22-02-2005, 12:17:AM Originally posted by IceBlu
I respect for Eto'o just soared after reading that . Gotto love his arrogance :rockman:
!
man, why dont you love us Real fans then? ;)
Socrates 22-02-2005, 12:22:AM Originally posted by Raikkonen
can both be eliminated?? :crazyboy:
i think i hate more Barcelona than Chelsea, so: 0 - 1 Lampard
Haha i agree with you i hate both of the teams but i hate Barcelona so much more so 0-2 to Chelsea Lampard x2
Also that article on Eto'o if funny as hell, it would be even better if he didnt score any goals in both legs(H)
solaimaa 22-02-2005, 12:27:AM Originally posted by Socrates
Haha i agree with you i hate both of the teams but i hate Barcelona so much more so 0-2 to Chelsea Lampard x2
Also that article on Eto'o if funny as hell, it would be even better if he didnt score any goals in both legs(H)
i hope barcelona beat chelsea and real madrid beat juventus. then, hopefully we draw together in the next round. we have already DESTROYED you once this season, we will DESTROY you in madrid, and if we could knock you out of the champions league as well, i think it would be a pretty good season for barcelona.
you know it would happen too, your team is playing like crap and has been all season. good luck trying to take care of juve. if they don't put you out of your misery, we sure as hell will.
Socrates 22-02-2005, 12:31:AM Originally posted by solaimaa
i hope barcelona beat chelsea and real madrid beat juventus. then, hopefully we draw together in the next round. we have already DESTROYED you once this season, we will DESTROY you in madrid, and if we could knock you out of the champions league as well, i think it would be a pretty good season for barcelona.
you know it would happen too, your team is playing like crap and has been all season. good luck trying to take care of juve. if they don't put you out of your misery, we sure as hell will.
AHAHAHHAHAHAH we have been playing like crap yet we are in second place:| Man how stupid are you?? Being in second place dosnt mean your team is ****.:)
Also last time you beat us ( which was a deserved victory for you guys ), but we were in crappy form, did not have Graveson, and did not have Wanderley Luxemburgo yet either so well see in our rematch later this season who will win.
0-1.
We will play a very defensive game and nick a goal at the other end of a set piece.
Raikkonen 22-02-2005, 03:08:AM Originally posted by solaimaa
i hope barcelona beat chelsea and real madrid beat juventus. then, hopefully we draw together in the next round. we have already DESTROYED you once this season, we will DESTROY you in madrid, and if we could knock you out of the champions league as well, i think it would be a pretty good season for barcelona.
you know it would happen too, your team is playing like crap and has been all season. good luck trying to take care of juve. if they don't put you out of your misery, we sure as hell will.
damn... gloryhunter season already start??
Vagegast 22-02-2005, 05:06:AM Originally posted by Mikey
Why does a team with such financial power have guys like Kezman, Gudjohnsson and Drogba as their forwards? They can do better, so why dont they?Drogba is worthy of his price, Gudjohnsson is mediocre and Kezman didn't live up to his hype. Eto'o is clearly bitter with Drogba because Ivory Coast is gonna be taking their World Cup place. I think Drogba would be jealous of Eto'o rather than the other way around. Eto'o is 3 years younger and has far more successful than Drogba. Eto'o has won African Player of Year two years running even though last year was Drogba's in my eyes.
As for the match, I definitely don't see Chelsea winning without Robben and Drogba. It's all in Barca's court now to go to London with a win and a good margin of goals.
Mikey 22-02-2005, 05:13:AM Originally posted by Vagegast
I think Drogba would be jealous of Eto'o rather than the other way around. Eto'o is 3 years younger and has far more successful than Drogba. Eto'o has won African Player of Year two years running even though last year was Drogba's in my eyes.
the words bitter and jealous dont mean the same thing.
Ivory Coast is likely (unless they collapse) going to make the world cup at the expense of Cameroon. He's just talking smack to Drogba in spite of this. Thats why he said 'Ivory Coast hasnt beaten Cameroon'.
I like both players, but i didnt know Eto'o was cocky like this. Before this season, Drogba had more value.
Anyways, Barcelona is just a flat out better team at the moment. I hope they win.
Vagegast 22-02-2005, 05:22:AM Ivory Coast = Kone and Drogba :rockman:
Mikey 22-02-2005, 05:25:AM Its too bad they both couldnt make it. Yet garbage teams like tunisia and Morrocco get easy groups and qualify.
PI-AIR 17 22-02-2005, 05:30:AM OMG!!!!!
what a match!!!
panxoman 22-02-2005, 03:52:PM The stadium will be full. Everything sold out.
Yesterday there were some tickets available but only for Barcelona members with no seasonal-ticket. Some people, don't know where from, even became Barça member to be able to buy a tickey. ( 62-155 euros)
Chelsea came to Barcelona from Newcastle on sunday night to prepare the match. They rented the Olimpic stadium for trainning without nobody watching at them yesterday.
Drogba seems to be recovering.
-William- 22-02-2005, 05:35:PM I just want whoever plays the best football to win :D
btw I heard the Headhunters are going to the Nou Camp (H)
xiaoarc 22-02-2005, 05:44:PM Originally posted by panxoman
Chelsea flight from Newcastle to Barcelona to prepare the match. They rented the Olimpic stadium for trainning without nobody watching at them yesterday.
This is what the power of money can do..pathetic, just because they don't want any attention in their training session, they rent a stadium...are they scare of spy from the Barca camp? :confused:
Drvar 22-02-2005, 05:45:PM Originally posted by xiaoarc
This is what the power of money can do..pathetic, just because they don't want any attention in their training session, they rent a stadium...are they scare of spy from the Barca camp? :confused:
maybe they are hidding Robben and Drogba :D.
Bonzi 22-02-2005, 08:13:PM Originally posted by xiaoarc
This is what the power of money can do..pathetic, just because they don't want any attention in their training session, they rent a stadium...are they scare of spy from the Barca camp? :confused:
:rolleyes: yeah, good point. no doubt, that's exactly the reason:rolleyes:
b-ytter 22-02-2005, 09:12:PM 2-0 Barca
I think Barca will win at home, and get a 1-1 draw in the second leg!
(H)
Mikey 22-02-2005, 10:16:PM wow, duff is out to now
Chelsea's offence looks terrible for this game.
I wish both could be eliminated to be honest but I think that Barça has what it takes to beat Chelsea.
I think it will be a defensive game with Eto'o scoring and Deco capping off the 2-0 victory for Barcelona
Bonzi 22-02-2005, 10:49:PM Chelsea start squad: 1 - Cech, 20 - Ferreira, 6 - Carvahlo, 5 - Terry, 13 - Gallas, 4 - Makelele, 8 - Lampard, 10 - Cole, 15 - Drogba, 22 - Gudjohnsen.
The defense's ok, but in attack i would prefer Robben to Drogba.
Payaah 22-02-2005, 10:54:PM Originally posted by Bonzi
The defense's ok, but in attack i would prefer Robben to Drogba.
What?
Robben is injured, everyones knows that, and you are a Chelsea fan:rolleyes:
Bonzi 22-02-2005, 10:56:PM Originally posted by Payaah
Robben is injured, everyones knows that, and you are a Chelsea fan:rolleyes:
i didn't say he is not:rolleyes: i meant i would prefer him healthy to Drogba
shokz 22-02-2005, 10:56:PM Originally posted by Mikey
wow, duff is out to now
Chelsea's offence looks terrible for this game.
He set out to deliberately(unprovoked) injure Cristiano Ronaldo's calf a couple of weeks ago so Ron would miss the Manchester derby, and for that, Duff got what he deserved in my opinion. May the best team win. Aslong as Chelsea do not concede then I think they'll be happy to take it back to Stamford Bridge, they'll have Duff fit for sure in the return leg.
0-0.
SlowSilver 22-02-2005, 10:57:PM Barca 2-0. Ronaldinho, Eto'o or Xavi. :p
Chelsea's attack is crap, utter sh*t without Robben and Duff.
No Robben and Duff = No goals.
Dreath 23-02-2005, 01:03:AM Well this seems to be overlooked.
but what about Puyol vs Terry?
Two of the in form defenders right now. I reckon Terry is a quality defender but he cannot be said in the same breath as Puyol, check this compilation out if you've never seen Moore meets Baresi play.
http://koeman.footballclips.net/MyCompilations/Puyol.wmv
barthez4 23-02-2005, 01:25:AM that Puyol compilation is brilliant, even though the picture quality isn't always great. that one shot that goes into the top netting is brilliant, as is the play where he takes the shot in the chest on the open net.
pede54 23-02-2005, 06:41:AM [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dreath
[B]Well this seems to be overlooked.
but what about Puyol vs Terry?
Two of the in form defenders right now. I reckon Terry is a quality defender but he cannot be said in the same breath as Puyol,
now this aint quite right is it?Terry V Puyol?.....not much in it but i would have to say Terry.....and not because of any bias....if one could be bothered ,you could compile a similar set of clips of Terry that would favourably compare or even better those ones.....Puyol is good but just aint "hard" enough for me.
Yes its a big thing to be missing our two best wingers and our left back.....but we have scored from other areas other than our forwards ....Lampards doing ok for goals thanks....and unlike a lot of teams we do seem to be fired up in Europe when it matters....Barca might have some wonderful players on show tommorow but we play a better team game as Deco and Rijkaard said themselves on Sky sports news tonight.It'll be a great game whatever the result and thats the important thing for lovers of football......and there will be a second leg of course at Stamford Bridge......so who can predict anything at all.......you can have your opinions but they dont mean jack s.h.i.t. once the 2 teams take to the pitch.....anything can happen and it probably will.....:D
manutd4eva 23-02-2005, 10:26:AM Well it seems Mourinho has already announced his team for tomorrow:
Cech
Paulo Ferreira
Terry
Carvalho
Gallas
Tiago
Makelele
Lampard
Cole
Gudjohnsen
Drogba
Without Duff and Robben, Chelsea's attack just looks so ****!
Come on Barca!
SuRFy 23-02-2005, 01:33:PM Should be a good match, guys there aren't showing the Barca - Chelsea match at all here in Australia, does anyone know any soccerstreams covering the match, BTW they are showing Milan - Man Utd instead of Barca - Chelsea. :(
I know Surfy, both on SBS and ESPN. :(
lol what goes around comes around @ Duff........ and Ronaldo wasn't really affected either, in fact he scored another in the FA (H)
Chelsea's attack shouldn't be underestimated, especially Gudjohnsen. However, I think Barca's midfield is better.
Additional prediction: Tiago 14 shots off target, 6 intercepted passes.
More buildup :read:
YOU'RE OUT OF CONTROL, JOSE
Martin Lipton Chief Football Writer
BARCELONA boss Frank Rijkaard kicked off the war of words with Jose Mourinho last night as he accused the Chelsea boss of starting to lose control.
Mourinho had ended his press conference at the Nou Camp by publicly announcing BOTH starting sides for tonight's Champions League clash.
But Dutchman Rijkaard, clearly annoyed after Mourinho pointed out he has won "zero trophies" as a coach, suggested that the Chelsea chief was showing the strain.
Rijkaard said: "It's not usual that someone names the team they are going to play, although he is right to express himself and say what he is thinking.
"But you can say what you like before the game - the match tells you the truth.
"Most coaches think that the players deserve to know the team rather than the press.
"But Chelsea are in an unusual situation now. They've just been knocked out of the FA Cup and Manchester United are closing in on them in the Premiership. Let's see how all that will affect them.
"Chelsea have spent three days here, having all their training sessions behind closed doors. Now Mourinho is telling everyone the line-up. What's the point of closed-door training, then?
"I feel that a lot of times when people start talking or doing strange things before a match, it's because they aren't at ease and aren't very calm about the match to come. I'm not worried."
As Mirror Sport revealed yesterday, Didier Drogba will be rushed back into action as the strike leader, with William Gallas playing at left-back despite his groin injury.
But Damien Duff was ruled out after he failed a fitness test on his knee and Arjen Robben is still out injured.
"It's almost impossible for Duff. When he runs it's still painful," said Mourinho, who also blasted Barca striker Samuel Eto'o, who claimed Rijkaard was the better coach.
Mourinho added: "He spoke about me but I've never seen him in my life. I never met him or worked with him but he speaks about me."
Mourinho last night told his players there was no place for doubt as they prepared to face Barcelona's attacking arsenal.
He said: "I think you must be confident and act like this before this sort of match.
"I keep saying to the players that when you have a bad result or injuries you mustn't look back and forget what you have to do in the future.
"I can't say 'I don't have him or him, so we can't expect to get a good result'. We must find another way. We still have many good players and have to adapt the way we're playing.
"We are without Robben and Duff so we have to change.
"When we go out there, we still have to fight for a good result.
"You have to think positively and realise there are 180 minutes, maybe more - and that it will not be easy for them in London."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/sporttop/tm_objectid=15221108%26method=full%26siteid=50143% 26headline=you%2dre%2dout%2dof%2dcontrol%2d%2djose-name_page.html
Wow wtf is Mourinho up to....... this match is gonna be a scorcher :mrpimp:
panxoman 23-02-2005, 04:19:PM question to Chelsea fans ...
I've heard on the radio that some chelsea fans who are already in Barcelona have some celery in they hands.
asked about this, they've said that it's a tradition. when they score, they throw the celery to the pitch?
is it true or they were pulling the journalist's leg?
can u explain it a bit :confused:
Can't stop the rush... 23-02-2005, 04:51:PM I can't see Barcelona losing(even though it would be nice).
Probably 2 or 3 - 0.
Dream Team 23-02-2005, 06:37:PM It's easy to know Barça lineup
Oleguer is injured so..
--------------V. Valdés--------------
-------------------------------------
Belletti----Puyol--Márquez--------Gio
-------------------------------------
-------------Albertini---------------
-----------Xavi-----Deco-------------
------------------------Ronaldinho---
---Giuly-------Eto'o-----------------
The only doubt is between Albertini or Gerard.
Minus 23-02-2005, 09:33:PM im so fuccin excited about this game, too bad i aint gonna be able to see it since i live outside of europe:kader: :kader: :kader:
where is edmilson?
my predict, barcelona 2-0 chelsea
ronaldinho, eto'o
ladylover 23-02-2005, 10:01:PM Edmilson is injured
adj137 23-02-2005, 11:34:PM people keep on saying how weak chelsea's attack is but in all honesty i really rate Cole as a player, if he's given the space and time i think he may be able to dominate this game.
muz88 24-02-2005, 12:00:AM theres no way chelsea's gonna win this, ronaldhino will rip apart chelsea's defence
pede54 24-02-2005, 12:22:AM well, we will see about that very soon won't we?:D Good news for us ....it looks like Damien Duff has recovered from his injury and may be in the starting 11.......This is gonna be a cracking game and we will not lose it............:D
ronnifan9 24-02-2005, 12:26:AM I'd say Barca 3-1 (eventhough I wouldn't mind them loosing) :)
Good luck to my boy Rafa Marquez (Y)...go get 'em son.
b-ytter 24-02-2005, 12:37:AM Duff will start!
:(
http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=257976&cpid=5&CLID=&lid=2&title=DUFF+STARTS+FOR+BLUES&channel=Football_Home
10Ruud 24-02-2005, 12:47:AM Originally posted by b-ytter
Duff will start!
:(
http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=257976&cpid=5&CLID=&lid=2&title=DUFF+STARTS+FOR+BLUES&channel=Football_Home
I can't stand Duff.......:kader: ...........Chelsea will still lose though.
b-ytter 24-02-2005, 12:53:AM Duff is a good player but after the tackle on C.Ronaldo i got very angry
:f***:
Anyway,i think the CFC attack is poor without Duff,and that was just what i wanted tonight!
(H)
Drvar 24-02-2005, 12:59:AM Barcelona will not win today :). (another report from the future by me!)
pede54 24-02-2005, 01:00:AM well for such a terrible tackle......Ronaldo recovered pretty quickly didn't he?.......sure it was ugly but it is a mans game and not for poncy pussies right?...............:D..........ask Keane or Haarland
b-ytter 24-02-2005, 01:09:AM Originally posted by pede54
well for such a terrible tackle......Ronaldo recovered pretty quickly didn't he?.......sure it was ugly but it is a mans game and not for poncy pussies right?...............:D..........ask Keane or Haarland
Haaland had it coming!:p
Well my point was....i dont consider Duff to be a "dirty player" so that tackle was unlike him!
(H)
untouchable 24-02-2005, 01:12:AM Originally posted by pede54
well for such a terrible tackle......Ronaldo recovered pretty quickly didn't he?.......sure it was ugly but it is a mans game and not for poncy pussies right?...............:D..........ask Keane or Haarland
Duff is lucky he got injured before Keano got to him...(H)
haha, what a stunt.
Names his starting XI (Mourinho) then pulls out Duff
Good luck to both teams, and cheers for a good game!
SuRFy 24-02-2005, 02:08:AM Any updates guys ?
Dream Team 24-02-2005, 02:17:AM We have this luck..
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:17:AM OWN GOAL BELLETTI!!!
CHELSEA 1-0 BARCA
Drvar 24-02-2005, 02:18:AM 0:1 !!
Chelsea leads!!!
Own goal by Belleti, but if he hadnt tried to save it, it would have been a goal anyway.
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:19:AM WHAT A MISS BY DROGBA, WOWOWOWOWOWOW, THAT WAS THE EASIEST CHANCE EVER!
Correction, Own Goals.
Belletti *Spelling.
Virgo 24-02-2005, 02:19:AM lmao drogba is such a donkey
Drvar 24-02-2005, 02:19:AM Originally posted by Bilo90
WHAT A MISS BY DROGBA, WOWOWOWOWOWOW, THAT WAS THE EASIEST CHANCE EVER!
that is a chance you DONT miss in a game like this. damn drogba, even i would score that :).
lil_kewell 24-02-2005, 02:20:AM haha yeS !! does any one plss have a link for radio or a stream?? Stupid ESPN is showing milan vs man utd in australia , and also SBS is showing the same game ,
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:20:AM Originally posted by Drvar
0:1 !!
Chelsea leads!!!
Own goal by Belleti, but if he hadnt tried to save it, it would have been a goal anyway.
not really, he could've booted it up
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 02:33:AM http://play.www.planetfootball.servecast.net/downloads/sky/chelsea_matchday_live.ram
Drvar 24-02-2005, 02:35:AM Originally posted by Bilo90
not really, he could've booted it up
you mean he coudlve Kanu'd it? :)
Chelsea have tactically outclassed Barcelona. Barcelona shouldve taken their chances at the very start, but they blew it.
ninobomba 24-02-2005, 02:35:AM damn this sucks...
we better get some goals going 2cnd half..
Bummy_JaB 24-02-2005, 02:37:AM If this game ends in a 1-0 you can rest assure that chelsea will defend thier home game for 90 min.....
Raikkonen 24-02-2005, 02:43:AM you can notice how few barça fans and chelsea gloryhunters are in SG just reading this thread: like 10 posts in the first half of the game, and most of them were from non Chelsea/Barca fans.
Chelsea has played very well, tactically (yeah, like they always do). Barcelona had more chances to score, but they didn't have any luck. Now that i think about it, i want Barcelona to go through the next round :o why? because they can drop points in La Liga if they focus in CL, and their players will be more tired. And maybe, Real Madrid can meet Barcelona in the final ;) and beat them. It would be so great.
damn Barça, they can't do anything right (H)
Johnny_Big 24-02-2005, 02:44:AM Well...Chelsea is really amazing...defending 30 minutes and in their first chance they...score. Incredible. If Barcelona keeps playing like this, the result will be 0-1...or even 0-2. The talent of the Barcelona players must appear as soon as possible. I think the set pieces can be a good point for Barcelona. Deco and Ronaldinho can really mess up there.
Drvar 24-02-2005, 02:46:AM Deco shouldve gotten a yellow already, for that lame dive looking for a penalty.
And Marquez just loves the grass, lays in it every chance he gets :).
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:48:AM first half was so boring, just booting the ball around. Barca have been ****, one guy tries to dribble the whole team the whole time. The field is so big that there is no action
-William- 24-02-2005, 02:52:AM Originally posted by Dream Team
We have this luck..
How come youre not at the stadium? :(
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:53:AM second half barca starting very strongly
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:55:AM Originally posted by Johnny_Big
Well...Chelsea is really amazing...defending 30 minutes and in their first chance they...score. Incredible. If Barcelona keeps playing like this, the result will be 0-1...or even 0-2. The talent of the Barcelona players must appear as soon as possible. I think the set pieces can be a good point for Barcelona. Deco and Ronaldinho can really mess up there.
first half was boring, since chelsea scored they just booted the ball as hard as possible for 15 minutes
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 02:58:AM RED CARD DROGBA
Dreath 24-02-2005, 02:58:AM Drogba sent off.
Missew return leg and 2 other games
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 02:59:AM Idiot Drogba.......
Virgo 24-02-2005, 02:59:AM Drogba (H)
Raikkonen 24-02-2005, 02:59:AM i would sub Albertini for Maxi ASAP. the italian is too slow for this kind of matches and Barça need more power in attack, Eto'o can't fight Terry & Carvalho alone
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:00:AM that really wasn't a red, Iniesta on for Albertini
Raikkonen 24-02-2005, 03:00:AM Drogba :kader: idiot
damn, Rijkaard already subbed Albertini and i didn't notice it
but i don't like the sub
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:07:AM Giuly out
Lopez in
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 03:09:AM ****....MAXI TIES THE MATCH!!!
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:10:AM GOAL MAXI LOPEZ!!! WOWOW
lil_kewell 24-02-2005, 03:10:AM **** !!
Dreath 24-02-2005, 03:11:AM Barcalona are now rampant... Missed a good chance there.
lil_kewell 24-02-2005, 03:12:AM ahhh noo we are on the backfoot wif 10 men and the scores level, hope we can hold out for the draw, be good result for us .
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:14:AM WHAT A CHANCE BY BARCA
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:16:AM GOAL Eto'o!! LOPEZ ASSIST!!! HAHAHAHHHA
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 03:16:AM NOOOOOOOOO! ETO!!!!!!!!!! GODDAMN!!!!!!!!!!!
lil_kewell 24-02-2005, 03:17:AM :(:(:(
Punkt 24-02-2005, 03:18:AM Maxi Lopez :(
cyrex 24-02-2005, 03:18:AM maxi Lopez and eto'o - it's just crazy!!
ntigers2004 24-02-2005, 03:18:AM goal eto'o
Ebonix 24-02-2005, 03:18:AM Come on you can't expect to go to the Nou camp and win a game, especially with 10 men. At least you got an away goal
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:19:AM Originally posted by ntigers2004
goal eto'o
your early
mhflierman 24-02-2005, 03:19:AM Awesome. Barca have been owning Chelsea all night. They fully deserve to be in front. Put another two past Cech blaugranas. (H)
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:22:AM WHAT A SAVE BY TERRY
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 03:25:AM Drogba is a goddamn idiot!!
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:26:AM dude, this mazi lopez guy is amazing!!!
Virgo 24-02-2005, 03:27:AM Drogba is going to get buttf*cked by Mourinho :rofl:
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 03:27:AM Maxi is amazing!!
lil_kewell 24-02-2005, 03:31:AM Eto' such a good sport , terry got a cramp and he is helping Terry out stretching.
rhizome17 24-02-2005, 03:31:AM Chelsea should be right if they can keep it to 2-1.
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:32:AM hey look, chelsea finally got the ball passed the half way line for the first time:o
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:35:AM INIESTA.. ooooh, close close
SlayerDeuS 24-02-2005, 03:36:AM Oh my ******* god will this game ever end!!?!!
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:37:AM final 2-1 barca, good stuff for chelsea, but chelsea might not've conceded the second if drogba wasnt sent off
Drvar 24-02-2005, 03:38:AM Drogba sending off was the breaking point. Barcelona got the the energy up then.
ntigers2004 24-02-2005, 03:39:AM Final WHistle....Good game
manutd4eva 24-02-2005, 03:39:AM Well United aren't the only English team to lose today.(H)
rhizome17 24-02-2005, 03:39:AM I expect Chelsea and Liverpool to be the English teams progressing into the next round.
10Ruud 24-02-2005, 03:39:AM The game should have ended in a draw
Crusad3r 24-02-2005, 03:40:AM Originally posted by lil_kewell
Eto' such a good sport , terry got a cramp and he is helping Terry out stretching.
thats not sportmanship, thats to be smart knowing as fast that player is recovered the game will re-start
TOON ARMY 24-02-2005, 03:41:AM Decent result for Chelsea.
lil_kewell 24-02-2005, 03:41:AM Originally posted by Crusad3r
thats not sportmanship, thats to be smart knowing as fast that player is recovered the game will re-start
Yer u could look at it like that , but in my opinioun it looked like he was helping out, dont be so cynical
johan 24-02-2005, 03:41:AM Chelsea loses, Man Utd loses, Arsenal loses, it just can`t get any better. :p
muz88 24-02-2005, 03:42:AM what a game, first half was boring as hell and ronaldinhio played like **** but i knew he was just saving up his energy, second half was amzign espically from that lopez guy, wheres he from? but i have to say the referee was ****
Dream Team 24-02-2005, 03:44:AM I'm very disappointed, I expected MUCH more from Chelsea, Numancia will play more offensive (Y).
I think this is a good result for Chelsea, but I also think that we will win in London. :) For two reasons: 1. because they have to win so they won't play sooooooooooooo defensive 2. because Albertini won't play.
Great debut by Maxi Lopez in the Camp Nou.
0le_Spain 24-02-2005, 03:44:AM Ah man we coulda scored another one with Eto'o there at the end woulda helped us alot.:(
This result is not bad for Chelsea but now we need to score at SB. The good thing is that with a tie we're thru to the next round.:)
ninobomba 24-02-2005, 03:48:AM GO BARCE WOHOO SO HAPPY! but yeah this is still not good result we must go for a tie! or a win .its possible FUERZA :rockman:
Maxi is so owesome he must start to proof what he really was at River, and he has just began to shine :rockman:
Filipower 24-02-2005, 03:48:AM c'mon barçaaa!!!! barcelona has a team capable of getting a draw or even a win at stanford...it's time to show what those great players are really made of!! força barçaa:rockman::rockman::rockman::!!!
mhflierman 24-02-2005, 03:49:AM Originally posted by diggi 10
Chelsea loses, Man Utd loses, Arsenal loses, it just can`t get any better. :p
Actually, it could, if you'd just stay the **** away. :)
SuRFy 24-02-2005, 03:49:AM Well looks like, Maxi overtook Rafa as my favourite player, frigin awesome debut, great goal and assisst. Also all the home teams lost except for barca, completely opposite from yesterday.
0le_Spain 24-02-2005, 03:50:AM Originally posted by Dream Team
I'm very disappointed, I expected MUCH more from Chelsea, Numancia will play more offensive (Y).
they have to win so they won't play sooooooooooooo defensive
Great debut by Maxi Lopez in the Camp Nou.
Yeah but they did what all teams do against us, it was almost a re-run of the Milan match.
Maxi gave us a different option, a big target in the middle to bother their central defenders. Played well alongside Eto'o.
Aragorn 24-02-2005, 03:52:AM Mr. Mourinho, time to eat your insolence and prepotence, time to eat your fool words, time to learn that in this game u should dont park your "bus" on the field, and time to learn that a game is never won by outside goals.
Is a pitty that this man, train to a great team as Chelsea and represent to the team fans.
Just waiting for the next game and to see a great play.
Barça and Madrid did great!!!!!!
P.D. (Maxi López, is from River Plate)
Take care
neovico
The Mind
johan 24-02-2005, 03:53:AM Originally posted by mhflierman
Actually, it could, if you'd just stay the **** away. :)
It`s not my fault that they don`t know how to play football. :p
Filipower 24-02-2005, 03:56:AM highlights anyone??tnkz
SuRFy 24-02-2005, 03:56:AM Pressure on Mr. Mourinho, 2 Losss in a row. (Y)
RuiCosta_10 24-02-2005, 03:57:AM Maxi scored a very nice goal, he looks like a great player, i'm looking forward to se more games from him...
(Y)
manutd4eva 24-02-2005, 03:58:AM Originally posted by diggi 10
It`s not my fault that they don`t know how to play football. :p
You're just a retard.
mhflierman 24-02-2005, 03:59:AM Originally posted by diggi 10
It`s not my fault that they don`t know how to play football. :p
In Chelsea's case, yes I agree. (H)
Dream Team 24-02-2005, 04:00:AM Originally posted by 0le_Spain
Yeah but they did what all teams do against us, it was almost a re-run of the Milan match.
Maxi gave us a different option, a big target in the middle to bother their central defenders. Played well alongside Eto'o. Yeah, I know, but they got 0 shots on goal.. the great Lampard, the great Duff, the great Drogba, the great nothing..
BTW, credit to Iniesta too. I'm sorry for Giuly but at the moment Iniesta>>>>Giuly
SuRFy 24-02-2005, 04:03:AM Belletti, seemed pissed off, Puyol offered his hand but he just waved it away, he was probably just caught in the moment and really :f***: off, glad to see Puyol calm and cool after the OG. (Y)
ninobomba 24-02-2005, 04:04:AM Originally posted by mhflierman
In Chelsea's case, yes I agree. (H)
naw chelsea atleast dosent loose at home they got the EPL title in their hands and the league cup
manchester United? FA CUp?
johan 24-02-2005, 04:10:AM Originally posted by manutd4eva
You're just a retard.
The man who created you is a retard... :p
Rochester Rhino 24-02-2005, 04:11:AM http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/XBA810022317_1024x768.jpg
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manutd4eva 24-02-2005, 04:11:AM Originally posted by diggi 10
The man who created you is a retard... :p
So now God's a man and a retard.
Not bad, retard.(Y)
bizjer 24-02-2005, 04:13:AM Anders Frisk is a w anker, how blatant was his one-sided- ness ??? Im n Chelsea fan thats for sure, In fact I have a soft spot for Barca ( Henrik the King resides there you see)but the ref was soo biased it was unreal. Im not surprised the Roma fans attacked him, he clearly is blind as *** also. The chipmunk takes a dive Greg Luganis would be proud of right in front of the swedish muppet , what happens, jack. No card, no talking too, zip. Drogba go's to play the ball fairly with a chance of scoring what happens, off. Ray Chales(RIP) could have seen that it was a fair attempt. Im suspicious that frisk is a racist neo nazi. And whats with his pidgeon chest ???? do's he wear a corset ????
I hope that to be fair the ref in the 2nd leg will be more bias towards Chelsea, its a game of two halfs as they say, lets see if Chelsea get a ref in the 2nd half !!! I doubt it.
SuRFy 24-02-2005, 04:20:AM Originally posted by Rochester Rhino
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Looks awesome in the Blaugrana UnIForM.(H)
manutd4eva 24-02-2005, 04:21:AM I guess Eto'o really showed Drogba.:D
AberdeenFC 24-02-2005, 04:22:AM chelsea were cheated big time today, drogba should never of been sent off. but hey, win some lose some... today they should of won but lost cos of crap refereeing but against liverpool the won when they should of lost for the same reason
dude why the **** you have to quote all those pictures??:rolleyes:
SB9Dragon 24-02-2005, 04:24:AM I wasn't really sure who would win this game, Barca or Chelsea, but wow, Barca sure pulled of a great victory.
Now can they do it again against Mourinho's boys? The 2nd leg match will definately be a thriller, I sure hope ESPN shows it instead of the Milan vs. ManU game again.
Perles 24-02-2005, 04:28:AM Shots on Target 11-0
Shots off Target 13-2
Possession 70.8 29.2
Territorial Advantage 64.9 35.1
chelsea got more than they deserved
Bummy_JaB 24-02-2005, 04:29:AM Why wasnt Maxi played in a league game before this?????? He is a great player and reminds me a lot of Adriano...... I cant believe this was his day view though
manutd4eva 24-02-2005, 04:36:AM Originally posted by Perles
Possession 70.8 29.2
Territorial Advantage 64.9 35.1
:o
becksfranksteve 24-02-2005, 04:39:AM chelsea really surprised me they are in great position for the 2nd
leg john terry is the best defender in the world
drekkard 24-02-2005, 04:40:AM Chelsea was a poor attempt of a girl team.
pede54 24-02-2005, 04:59:AM a newbies 6 post and now we already know what a poof he is...............Drekkard you are a wanker............
Frisk was so biased and not for the first time against Chelsea.The last time we played Barca ,he gave them 2 undeserved penalties and sent off Babayaro...this time he wouldn't book any of them for their little girl dives....Deco is such a pussy i would be embarrassed if he was in my team.....and he sends off Drogba ,who by ,the way was rusty after being out for a while,for going for a 50/50 ball that any striker should go for.The Barca GK fell over holding his head like he was shot.Why do these latino teams regard cheating as fair play?They are a joke ,and so is any referee who tolerates it.
For all the ppl here who do not appreciate tactical play and formations.....just remember Barca were at home tonight and needed to keep a clean sheet,they did not do that so this was a bad result for them.They were owned by the Chelsea defence in the first half and once Frisk decided that Barca needed some assistance,and sent off Drogba,They were still s.h.i.t apart from the goals.The first goal was a beauty from that ugly blond chick,and Eto's goal was crap defending from 2 average portuguese players that are not good enough to be at my club.No tricks or flash moves by the Barca "superstars" because they had their work cut out tonight,and they found out that not all teams play like a second rate Spanish side.So 2 - 1 is a great result for us and a crap result for them...We will dominate at the Bridge and we will go through.
Mancs.....you lost 1 - 0 at home .....and you let Crespo score....now THAT is a bad result.....you embarrass the entire country....thank you very much.....................:D
Dreath 24-02-2005, 05:01:AM Chelsea have had a bit of luck in other games with Refs though.
It does balance itself out.
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:02:AM luck is one thing...........bias for 90 minutes is another
Perles 24-02-2005, 05:02:AM Zero shots on goal was not a 'tactic'
americangreg 24-02-2005, 05:04:AM I cannot accept Mourinho's arrogance anymore after today.
First of all, he starts psychological press game against Rijkaard where basically he says he's the best and Barça is nothing.
Then they play the game tonight and got into Barça's penalty box maybe twice. The only thing they do is try to defend and play like an Italian team. And please don't tell me Drogba's didn't deserve the red card: he had been making dirty fouls the whole game.
Then suddenly, totally against Mourinho's predictions, Chelsea lost the game. And in the end they got lucky in only was by 2-1.
Sounds pretty dumb huh? At first he's screaming out they're the best and they're gonna win but in the end they lose. So what does Mourinho do? He runs off like a coward, doesn't show up at the press conference, and shows the world he really really really doesn't know how to lose...
Poor person that Mourinho... :kader:
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:04:AM you idiot do you think we went there tonight to attack attack attack.................the plan was to defend and try to get a goal on the break.....and keep Barcas goals to a minimum.......and thats exactly what happened .....our game plan was a success mate unlike Barcas:D
Dreath 24-02-2005, 05:06:AM Originally posted by pede54
you idiot do you think we went there tonight to attack attack attack.................the plan was to defend and try to get a goal on the break.....and keep Barcas goals to a minimum.......and thats exactly what happened .....our game plan was a success mate unlike Barcas:D
Obviously not.
You're still staring down the barrell
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:07:AM Originally posted by americangreg
I cannot accept Mourinho's arrogance anymore after today.
First of all, he starts psychological press game against Rijkaard where basically he says he's the best and Barça is nothing.
Then they play the game tonight and got into Barça's penalty box maybe twice. The only thing they do is try to defend and play like an Italian team. And please don't tell me Drogba's didn't deserve the red card: he had been making dirty fouls the whole game.
Then suddenly, totally against Mourinho's predictions, Chelsea lost the game. And in the end they got lucky in only was by 2-1.
Sounds pretty dumb huh? At first he's screaming out they're the best and they're gonna win but in the end they lose. So what does Mourinho do? He runs off like a coward, doesn't show up at the press conference, and shows the world he really really really doesn't know how to lose...
Poor person that Mourinho... :kader:
where do these wankers keep appearing from......the SG cricket forum?....'cos you know nothing about football mate......i'll tell you what .....just read the posts....don't write anything just read....and maybe you might learn something:kader:
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:08:AM Originally posted by Dreath
Obviously not.
You're still staring down the barrell
No mate Arsenal have it all to do ....our task is much easier:D
drekkard 24-02-2005, 05:09:AM Hey man, YOU are blind.
Deco is a cheater:YES.
Drogba was unfairly sent off: PROBABLY.
Now tell me what you think of your players loosing time from the very first minute, players wasting more than 2 minutes to do the substitution and all that. Maybe then they are also latin?
But your team played EXACTLY like a second rate spanish side, man. I've seen at least 10 better teams from the bottom table of La Liga playing at the stadium-
Chelsea was just pathetic from 1st minute to the last one. I've never seen a worst team in years. Not able to do 3 consecutive passes, even BEFORE Drogba being sent off.
If you think football is like that and you like to praise 10 men inside own area... is your decision and your team. I like how barça plays: always attacking. You maybe don't know numbers of the match:
Shots, 25 to 3
Possession: 73% against 27% (almost all of the time, Cech's possession).
Territorial advantage: 70% to 30%
That numbers were the same for all the match. The only thing chelsea did in 90 minutes is an own goal and the drogba chance. The rest was a shame to football. Even if the match had ended 0-1 or 0-2 it would have been an unfair result to football.
Now, the next time you go abroad to play football, hopefully next year, try to cross the midifield line before 30th minute, please. That would do a good favor to the show. And maybe tell Mourinho to be polite and not to do these pathetic shows when he looses.
Dreath 24-02-2005, 05:10:AM Originally posted by pede54
No mate Arsenal have it all to do ....our task is much easier:D
Easier yes, but I reckon you'll still go out.
Barca will score.
2-2 is my predicition.
americangreg 24-02-2005, 05:10:AM Originally posted by pede54
you idiot do you think we went there tonight to attack attack attack.................the plan was to defend and try to get a goal on the break.....and keep Barcas goals to a minimum.......and thats exactly what happened .....our game plan was a success mate unlike Barcas:D
I'm not questioning Chelsea's game plan. Chelsea's tactics were clear right from the beginning of the game. It's just that in my opinion staying in your own box with your whole team and just shoot the balls forward should not be called soccer (or football or whatever you wanna call it).
What really annoys me is Mourinho's arrogance, but I guess you've already read that part...
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:12:AM learn about tactics you moron ....its at home that teams tend to attack.....away games for all teams are treated as damage limitation.....you do not treat a CL game the same as a league match ......when you get a little older and wiser you will understand better
americangreg 24-02-2005, 05:12:AM Originally posted by pede54
where do these wankers keep appearing from......the SG cricket forum?....'cos you know nothing about football mate......i'll tell you what .....just read the posts....don't write anything just read....and maybe you might learn something:kader:
and who do you think YOU are? :rolleyes: seems like everyone rooting for Chelsea is getting some of Mourinho's arrogance... :kader:
Dreath 24-02-2005, 05:14:AM Originally posted by pede54
learn about tactics you moron ....its at home that teams tend to attack.....away games for all teams are treated as damage limitation.....you do not treat a CL game the same as a league match ......when you get a little older and wiser you will understand better
Milan attacked Man Utd... what did they get from it?
A 1-0 win. Therefore you need to research your tactics.
Dream Team 24-02-2005, 05:16:AM It wasn't a straight red, it was the second yellow, fair and deserved.
americangreg 24-02-2005, 05:16:AM Milan attacked Man Utd... what did they get from it?
A 1-0 win. Therefore you need to research your tactics
I'm gonna second that with reminding you that Lyon won 0-3 at Werder Bremen. They had totally opposite tactics than Chelsea and guess what, they ended the game with a better result...
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:19:AM its having to try to educate a bunch of kids ....its very frustrating.......and concerning Jose, you are confusing arrogance with confidence....thats his job and anyone who does not realise its all mind games is stupid......and anyone who is offended by it must have a very small mind........so why is it ok for Eto to be arrogant but not Jose......what is it with you guys.......you have such a problem understanding the simple things:D
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:21:AM Originally posted by Dream Team
It wasn't a straight red, it was the second yellow, fair and deserved.
the second yellow was not derserved ....end of story....haha:D
drekkard 24-02-2005, 05:21:AM Originally posted by pede54
learn about tactics you moron ....its at home that teams tend to attack.....away games for all teams are treated as damage limitation.....you do not treat a CL game the same as a league match ......when you get a little older and wiser you will understand better
Look man, I've seen Maradona, Cruyff, Schuster, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Lineker, Koeman, Guardiola, Stoichkov, Laudrup, Romario, Hagi, Figo and more playing through all my life and I've played for barcelona young team. I think I know something about football that maybe looking Chelsea you are unable to comprehend, and that is:
Football is the art to control the game and offer a good show to the masses. Maybe weaker teams like Chelsea need to defend. Big teams like Barça, Madrid, Milan, Bayern... are able to attack anywhere, or at least try to win the game, or at least, try TO CROSS THE MIDFIELD LINE.
So I think you have the same arrogance problem that mourinho has. The important thing is never the result, but HOW you win.
Then you will understand WHY players like DECO and RONALDINHO are playing for Barcelona when Chelsea was offering them double the wages.
Dream Team 24-02-2005, 05:22:AM Originally posted by pede54
the second yellow was not derserved ....end of story....haha:D haha (Y):monkey:
Go to sleep
Maxi, nice to see an Argentine play well, but please cut the hair. :|
I liked Eto'o's celebration after his goal (Y)
I hope to see a good return leg in London
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:24:AM yeah but those tactics could have back fired on Milan ok?.....and you cannot compare playing Man U or Werder Bremen with playing Barca.......take into account the players we are missing that enable us to be an attacking side and we had little choice but to opt for a defensive game......do you understand yet?
Dreath 24-02-2005, 05:25:AM Originally posted by pede54
yeah but those tactics could have back fired on Milan ok?.....and you cannot compare playing Man U or Werder Bremen with playing Barca.......take into account the players we are missing that enable us to be an attacking side and we had little choice but to opt for a defensive game......do you understand yet?
But Barca's weakness is it's defense, not attack.
I was surprised with chelsea's defensiveness.. it seemed the wrong thing to do.
Socrates 24-02-2005, 05:28:AM Originally posted by pede54
its having to try to educate a bunch of kids ....its very frustrating.......and concerning Jose, you are confusing arrogance with confidence....thats his job and anyone who does not realise its all mind games is stupid......and anyone who is offended by it must have a very small mind........so why is it ok for Eto to be arrogant but not Jose......what is it with you guys.......you have such a problem understanding the simple things:D
Wow waht a piss poor match from Chelsea. Conerning Jose, no one is confusing anything, he is a bit arrogant and so is Eto'o. Murinho saying that Frank is nothing as a manager is showing a lot of arrogance.
Also about your tactic, when your team dosnt even have a shot on goal that is horrible. Even if you defend most of the match you need to counter-attack or at least do something. 0 shots on goal:|
TheBlueBalla 24-02-2005, 05:37:AM Cmon now, Pede isnt trying to stir people here up. Lets face it; the second yellow was deserved in my mind. Drogba is a big boy, and he knew he was pushing Frisk's patience. When he clattered in like that, so recklessly, what else could he ask for? That said, all those claiming Chelsea didnt play attacking enough, what were they supposed to do? They got battered with injury on sunday, all the press was talking about how theyre hitting the skids, theyre going to a loud, hostile Nou Camp with arguably the best side in Europe and they get played off the park for 4 minutes, and are up 1-0? They cannot play more attacking than they did without Robben because they dont have the quality of attackers Barca have, and they did the best they could. Going down to 10 men, they were going to play more defensively against this side. It was a great match, and im really looking forward to the return leg, but lets not turn this into mudslinging between fans over something they cant control
And just to increase the peace
:hump: :hump: :hump:
Oh and it was good to see Maxi Lopez make such a great debut. His entrance was a pivotal point, and he was offensive magic.
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:38:AM Originally posted by drekkard
Look man, I've seen Maradona, Cruyff, Schuster, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Lineker, Koeman, Guardiola, Stoichkov, Laudrup, Romario, Hagi, Figo and more playing through all my life and I've played for barcelona young team. I think I know something about football that maybe looking Chelsea you are unable to comprehend, and that is:
Football is the art to control the game and offer a good show to the masses. Maybe weaker teams like Chelsea need to defend. Big teams like Barça, Madrid, Milan, Bayern... are able to attack anywhere, or at least try to win the game, or at least, try TO CROSS THE MIDFIELD LINE.
So I think you have the same arrogance problem that mourinho has. The important thing is never the result, but HOW you win.
Then you will understand WHY players like DECO and RONALDINHO are playing for Barcelona when Chelsea was offering them double the wages.
so you are proud of the way your "great" players cheat and dive like little girls are you?Is that a proud way to win ?...If you knew anything at all then you would know that you prepare your team and tactics before every game according to who it is you are playing.You cannot play gung ho football every time you take to the pitch,especially with a weakened squad.Of course sometimes its the right thing to do ,but sometimes you have to be more cautious.Otherwise why do we need coaches.....football is also about trying to outsmart the other team tactically.....None of your players made any smart tricks tonight because they had a hard game on their hands and they were not given the time to show off.....now compare that to when they play against "lesser teams"and thats when they are able to play pretty football,but they still fall over at every chance they get.....this is called cheating...have you ever heard of cheating?.....because thats what you watch wek in and week out mate
Help? 24-02-2005, 05:40:AM Well, Jose's pre-match talk didn't help to frustrate Barca. Mourinho obviously knows that Frank made it to EURO semifinal with Holland, while Jose wasn't even the NT coach yet. Can anyone tell me what happened in the tunnel at half time?
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:43:AM Originally posted by Socrates
Wow waht a piss poor match from Chelsea. Conerning Jose, no one is confusing anything, he is a bit arrogant and so is Eto'o. Murinho saying that Frank is nothing as a manager is showing a lot of arrogance.
Also about your tactic, when your team dosnt even have a shot on goal that is horrible. Even if you defend most of the match you need to counter-attack or at least do something. 0 shots on goal:|
you misquote Jose mate....he said that Frankk has not won anything yet but that Jose has,and thats what must decide who is the best manager.He did not say he is "nothing" so lets get thing accurate shall we?
Dreath 24-02-2005, 05:44:AM Originally posted by pede54
so you are proud of the way your "great" players cheat and dive like little girls are you?Is that a proud way to win ?
Monaco vs Chelsea
Remind me what Makalele did, remind me what Desially did.
Remind me what your coach's team in 2004 did throughout the CL.
Accusing anyone of cheating is just gonna have it thrown back in your face.
drekkard 24-02-2005, 05:46:AM I said Deco cheated. But you seem to be unable to reckon that Chelsea was lame and your players were loosing time from the very beggining. Look man, Shakhtar Donetsk came to play here defensively and had some chances, and was a pretty match to see. They played lots better than Chelsea.
And barcelona also has lots of injuried players: motta, edmilson, gabri, larsson, Oleguer... so face it. I can recognize some players did cheat and I don't like it at all. But you have to recognize your team showed a VERY poor spectacle. If you don't then its not my problem.
About the tricks: at the stadium I could see a lot of good controls, passing and moving, and if barça had been lucky, Chelsea now would be out of competition. 25 shots to 2. Please.
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:50:AM well you should know all about cheating....your team won the league last year by being the masters of it............:D
i am not responsible for nor have i ever condoned cheating in my team.....see this is the difference Gooners and Barca fans and the like actually see nothing wrong in it as long as its their team doing it but god forbid anyone does it against them........you hypocrites...........
and WTF has Porto got to do with anything......as you saw tonight Deco dont need Jose to help him dive......he can do that all by himself.....
I slagged Maka and desailly at the time but i dont ever see you slag your players for doing it......
drekkard 24-02-2005, 05:50:AM Originally posted by pede54
you misquote Jose mate....he said that Frankk has not won anything yet but that Jose has,and thats what must decide who is the best manager.He did not say he is "nothing" so lets get thing accurate shall we?
Mourinho was asked what he thought about his career, specially considering he was brought to barcelona as an assistant to Robson and to help him with language problems (and it's true). He answered: "You are nothing but a reporter. My life has changed and I'm proud of me. What about you? You have changed nothing, you are still the same reporter."
Tell me if that's not pathetic arrogance.
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:52:AM Originally posted by drekkard
I said Deco cheated. But you seem to be unable to reckon that Chelsea was lame and your players were loosing time from the very beggining. Look man, Shakhtar Donetsk came to play here defensively and had some chances, and was a pretty match to see. They played lots better than Chelsea.
And barcelona also has lots of injuried players: motta, edmilson, gabri, larsson, Oleguer... so face it. I can recognize some players did cheat and I don't like it at all. But you have to recognize your team showed a VERY poor spectacle. If you don't then its not my problem.
About the tricks: at the stadium I could see a lot of good controls, passing and moving, and if barça had been lucky, Chelsea now would be out of competition. 25 shots to 2. Please.
It had nothing to do with Barca not having luck.....that was due to a great defence...............:D
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:53:AM Originally posted by drekkard
Mourinho was asked what he thought about his career, specially considering he was brought to barcelona as an assistant to Robson and to help him with language problems (and it's true). He answered: "You are nothing but a reporter. My life has changed and I'm proud of me. What about you? You have changed nothing, you are still the same reporter."
Tell me if that's not pathetic arrogance.
no it is not ....it is a fact isn't it?
Crusad3r 24-02-2005, 05:53:AM Originally posted by drekkard
But your team played EXACTLY like a second rate spanish side, man. I've seen at least 10 better teams from the bottom table of La Liga playing at the stadium-
Thats true. Same with Real Madrid, i have seen teams like Albacete, Murcia, Numancia, Getafe,... doing much better than Juventus yesterday. But i think is about respect, Getafe dont respect R.Madrid or Barcelona.
In the other hand im sure the perfomance of Barça in London or Madrid in Delle Alpi will be awful :\
TheBlueBalla 24-02-2005, 05:54:AM Thats kinda the problem. Every team "cheats" so much so that diving and all that have become second nature to the game, and honest players are hard to come by. No team is ever innocent in all that, and even players who do not do it will defend teammates who do. Anyway, yes, Chelsea turned in a pretty pathetic performance, but anyone could see that they dont have the attack of Barca. They weathered the storm, and sniped what opportunities they could. Shaktar may have played a great game, but I guarantee if Shaktar were here, in the knockouts against Barca, they would park the bus and steal the occasional chance if they even had a hope of advancing. For how badly Chelsea were outdone in the stats column, they still require only one goal in West London to move on. I dont think its gonna be 1-0, but it will be a brilliant game
By the way, go easy on Pede, he makes some brilliant ass Fifa kits :mrpimp:
drekkard 24-02-2005, 05:55:AM Ok, then. I go to sleep. Let's hope Chelsea has the same "not-luck" defending when barcelona shoots 15 times at stamford bridge.
pede54 24-02-2005, 05:55:AM ok thats it goodnight guys....sleep tight and see you in 2 weeks Barca fans............:D
linlin 24-02-2005, 07:13:AM come on josé s.ck me!
now el josé wants to create a problem lol stop that josé!
barcccccccccccccccccaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
CAMPPPPPPPPPPPPP NOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!
solaimaa 24-02-2005, 07:54:AM Originally posted by pede54
ok thats it goodnight guys....sleep tight and see you in 2 weeks Barca fans............:D
great man, hope you to see you complaining and justifying your side's poor performance then as well.
claim that it was tactics all you want, but no team comes into a game with the tactic that they're not going to have a shot on goal. chelsea are lucky to get an away goal, they didn't deserve it.
when u only have 30% possession and not a single shot on goal, you can not claim that it was tactical. you were outclassed, out played, and if you honestly think that you played well, then i think we're pretty set for the return leg.
Vagegast 24-02-2005, 10:27:AM http://www.ajax.nl/upload/97818_248_1017742269658-frank_rijkaard_historie_hall_of_fame_regen.jpg > http://terceiroanel.no.sapo.pt/treinadores/mourinho%2002.jpg
Maxi Lopez........... what a signing :o (Y)
Happy and disappointed.
Happy because we got the away goal and I will take alot away from the Milan game at the San Siro, where Barca was beaten 1-0.
Disappointed because of Drogba, a] he missed a sitter after the own goal, shoulda made it 0-2 and would of been another game , and because of Frisk, but you win some you lose some.
We have the away goal, now to Stamford Bridge.
Oh, one other thing.
I would of taken the 2-1 loss if given to me at the start of the game, far better then drawing 0-0.
da_gunners_14 24-02-2005, 12:34:PM pede54 got OWNED everyone is against him LOL
I feel sorry for u
neutral perspective
The game would've ended 1-0 (chelsea) if drogba wasnt sent off
but the fact is that he was. Chelsea played very defensively but effective as they weathered the storm and kept Barca frustrated.
The fact that drogba was sent off changed the whole game because they have little options up front.
Robben is injured
Duff just recovered from injury
If Chelsea did go on the offense then they will be opened up on the counter attacks and leave the vulnerable at the back.
AND Barca only scored after drogba was sent off.
10 against 11 and with little option ofcourse they will try and defend their lead.
Hope ALL the english teams qualify just to prove that english football is just as good as the others.
Come on GOONERS:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :D
TheBlueBalla 24-02-2005, 12:47:PM Rob, you hit the nail on the head there. Giving away a lead was a tough pill to swallow with Chelsea's defense, but for the statistical dominance that Barcelona held, numbers-wise, and considering Chelsea were low on confidence, emerging 2-1 can almost be classed as a great success. Considering one goal at the Bridge puts Chelsea through, thats pretty damn good. Oh and for all the abuse Pede got, credit to him for sticking here, in a thread where everyone but him (virtually) was looking for Chelsea to fall flat, and defend his team after the match. Thats not a criticism of anyone, just giving him credit (Y)
bertrandcantat 24-02-2005, 12:51:PM highlights anyone?? tnkz ;)
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 01:32:PM Originally posted by solaimaa
great man, hope you to see you complaining and justifying your side's poor performance then as well.
claim that it was tactics all you want, but no team comes into a game with the tactic that they're not going to have a shot on goal. chelsea are lucky to get an away goal, they didn't deserve it.
when u only have 30% possession and not a single shot on goal, you can not claim that it was tactical. you were outclassed, out played, and if you honestly think that you played well, then i think we're pretty set for the return leg.
very well said adil(Y)
although one thing has to be said, the second goal by barca was all by mistake. Maxi was trying to shoot, that was a very big mi**** and went straight to eto'o who had to tap it in. It was a good goal, it was just lucky and happened by mistake. Still, a goal is a goal.
But like you said solaimaa, barca had 70% possesion, the ease they were passing the ball in the chelsea half was incredible. Surely they'll get a goal if they do this again. Barca had 35 shots, thats amazing.
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 01:34:PM http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=325911&cc=4716 .. Chelsea to report tunnel incident?
muz88 24-02-2005, 01:41:PM Originally posted by Bilo90
very well said adil(Y)
although one thing has to be said, the second goal by barca was all by mistake. Maxi was trying to shoot, that was a very big mi**** and went straight to eto'o who had to tap it in. It was a good goal, it was just lucky and happened by mistake. Still, a goal is a goal.
But like you said solaimaa, barca had 70% possesion, the ease they were passing the ball in the chelsea half was incredible. Surely they'll get a goal if they do this again. Barca had 35 shots, thats amazing.
they still deserved that goal and so did etoo, barca were always going to score espically how chelsea were playing and they didn't deserve the away goal although the drgodba sending off was really cruel
Luis Ah-Hoy 24-02-2005, 02:27:PM From my neutral point of view:
- Barcelona owned that game; the result doesn't match the teams performance. At the very least, Barcelona should've won 3-1; Chelsea were very very lucky...
- I was... well, very disapointed by Chelsea's performance. One thing is to approach the game with caution, another is one team (Chelsea) to be so stuffy, that badly gets to leave it's defensive mid-field. The red card for Drogba is not an excuse... i feel Chelsea would have got none of that game, even with 11 man on the field...
- Although I admire him as a manager, Mourinho is too arrogant and sometimes a very irascible guy... and that has nothing to do with being confident... Ronaldinho is a confident person, but he's not arrogant nor irascible by any means... :rolleyes:
- If Barcelona keeps this level of play in the second leg, it's goodbye for Chelsea, surely... let's wait and see... it should be a thrilling game.
whuahu 24-02-2005, 02:55:PM Originally posted by Rob
Oh, one other thing.
I would of taken the 2-1 loss if given to me at the start of the game, far better then drawing 0-0.
why?
Internazionale 24-02-2005, 03:01:PM Chelsea didn't know what to do after Drogba sent off. It was a great football possession by Barcelona. Eto'o is simply a sensational player. He can sneak through 2 defenders. (Y)
Originally posted by whuahu
why? Away goal.
Bilo90 24-02-2005, 03:38:PM Originally posted by muz88
they still deserved that goal and so did etoo, barca were always going to score espically how chelsea were playing and they didn't deserve the away goal although the drgodba sending off was really cruel
thats true, wow look at my post, it says mi****, haha, its supposed to be mis.hit.. anyways, yah your right mazin
panxoman 24-02-2005, 03:58:PM Originally posted by pede54
Eto's goal was crap defending from 2 average portuguese players that are not good enough to be at my club.
:confused: (:/) :|
Eto's goal was crap defending from 2 average portuguese players that are not good enough to be at my club.
Which two? Ricardo Caravlho is coming off a long term injury and IS SUPERB.
Paulo Ferreira has been awesome this season and Tiago is improving and played a very good game.
The Eto'o goal was just a superb ball, to a superb player and was timed well.
datboy 24-02-2005, 04:21:PM congrats to Rijkaard for realizing that Guily is crap and that he has Maxi Lopez to replace him.
niceman 24-02-2005, 04:23:PM Originally posted by Rob
Away goal.
:rolleyes: 0-0 better than a 2-1 win?? Thats bullsh!t...Barca can now rely on an offensive Chealskiteam when they come to London...
Lopez is very impressive...his first goal class...fantsatic feint he makes before scoring...
PS nothing better to see Chealski out of Champions league!
niceman 24-02-2005, 04:26:PM Originally posted by Rob
Which two? Ricardo Caravlho is coming off a long term injury and IS SUPERB.
Paulo Ferreira has been awesome this season and Tiago is improving and played a very good game.
The Eto'o goal was just a superb ball, to a superb player and was timed well.
Fanboy...get real they were both sleeping on second goal...if u look Carvalho has no idea that Etoo is behind him...Carvalho wanted to let the ball go through but as we all know it never happened...muaha...
panxoman 24-02-2005, 04:41:PM I think the the first half Barça had the posession but Chelsea had the control of the game.
Chesea scored a lucky goal (by the way, there's no good tv replay but in the stadium it looked as the play started in offside. There's no good replay so ... no idea) and was close to a second one. After that no more attacking from Chesea.
In the second half Barça owned Chelsea.
Drogba was sent off for a yellow card that probably wasn't, but he had already done some hard unnecessary tackles and in the goalkeeper box you can't do what he did to the GK.
Mourinho did a big mistake. He hadn't prepared how to defend Maxi Lopez. He didn't know him well. Sure he didn't expect Maxi to play but ... it's a mistake for such a great manager (I think he is but he's so fvcking arrogant).
Anyway, I have to admit Maxi was a surprise for almost everyone, not just Mourinho.
At the end, Barça could have scored 1 or 2 goals more and I think we deserved it. I expected a different style of playing from Chelsea.
The round is still open and both teams can pass to next one. Chelsea will have to score in London, and I guess they will, but I'm sure we'll score as well.
I'm also sure we won't go to defend with 10 man in our box.
I haven't watched many Chelsea games this season, but I guess they usually play different, otherwise I wouldn't spent a penny in buying a ticket to see it's game.
Originally posted by niceman
Fanboy...get real they were both sleeping on second goal...if u look Carvalho has no idea that Etoo is behind him...Carvalho wanted to let the ball go through but as we all know it never happened...muaha... Don't call me a fan boy you f*cking tool.
Drvar 24-02-2005, 04:52:PM Chelsea needs a decent attack. i mean they have a decent attack when everyone is healthy, but without Drogba and Robben, they just dont have any decent players there.
When is Robben going to be back?
Originally posted by niceman
:rolleyes: 0-0 better than a 2-1 win?? You wouldn't understand because you have only 1 chromosome in your head, and if you don't stop I will kill it, and thus you at the same time.
Credit to the Barca fans, civilized people and knowledgeable, as opposed to fagman.
Vinnie Jones 24-02-2005, 08:10:PM It´s not arrogance, it´s confidence. Arrogants are the ones who talk big and have nothing to back it up. He uses this kind of self centered attitude to divert attentions from his players to him since he can handle the pressure pretty well. The incident after the game is just a "fait-divers", a way to motivate the players and the fans to give Barcelona a torrid time in Stamford Bridge.
About his remarks towards Rijkaard, i´m absolutely sure that he didn´t say anything in a depreciative way. What i understood from his words was that the Barcelona coach still had to prove himself by winning a league or an european competition like himself. There´s nothing wrong with what he said, it´s a fact. He didn´t claim that he was a bad coach (ffs he is a former holland Nt coach and the current Barcelona coach), he said that he still has to achieve something with the club. It´s an interpretation problem and i do believe that some ppl here don´t have the ability to think straight because they are brainwashed and "flock like sheeps" into labelling him as arrogant, when he is just confident (anyone who saw his reaction after losing to Newcastle or when he gave a "royal" treatment to S****horpe manager can understand that).
About the tactics, i was negatively impressed with Chelsea´s first 25 minutes but i think it´s understandable to adapt such cautious and defensive attitude when you are at Nou Camp and you miss key players. This isn´t a league where you are fighting for three points, this is a competition where there are two legs and it´s only natural that you try to solve the tie in your home ground where you are favourite. You think that Barcelona wouldn´t use a defensive scheme if they played in Stamford Bridge first?
About Drogba being sent off, i don´t think it was a bookable offense. I mean cmon if we begin to book ppl for challenges like that, then obviously the games won´t finish without a sending off one player or two. In the Premiership, the referee would prolly have a word with Drogba and told him to moderate his attitude.
I doubt that Barcelona could achieve this result if Drogba wasn´t sent off. We all know how Chelsea plays when they are ahead where it´s virtually impossible to score a goal. When there was 11 vs 11, Barça wasn´t playing that great either. Even so i think it was a fair result and that we will see a better match in Stamford Bridge.
About the cheating claims, i find it amusing that english ppl always blame their defeats with "diving" accusations. I mean you lose a game because Deco or Ronaldinho "dived" once or two? No, you lose a game because you didn´t do enough to get another result. There can be external factors like bad refeering decisions(Fisk) or stupid behaviours from your own team player (Drogba), depending on your interpretation but if you lose it´s because of your team´s performance and not because of some occasional "teatrics", specially when the players who performed them didn´t get anything out of that.
Pede, i think your prejudice is affecting you. Those two average players have achieve more in their career than any Chelsea player. Paulo Ferreira has been hailed as one of the best and most consistent right backs in the premiership and yet you slag him constantly. Did you prefer Melchiot or do you want to see Glen Johnson screwing up again? Makelele is one of the best DM in the world, yet you constantly attack him. Who do you want there? Scott Parker? Just because he is english? This isn´t about nationality, this is about performing, winning and getting the job done and Paulo Ferreira and Makelele have been two of the best players in a very consistent Chelsea team , where there are no individual stars. I considered you a very balanced person with good football knowledge and usually with a good input about football matters but with some of your recent remarks, i lost some of my consideration towards you. I hope it was just the frustation of a bad night. Cheers anyways.
whuahu 24-02-2005, 08:18:PM Originally posted by Rob
Away goal.
how can a loss ever be better than a draw?? whether its home or away??
even if it's 3-2 to u, u lose, if it's 2-1 to you, it goes into extra time, if it's 1-0, only then u go through. and if it's a draw, u lose again.
on the other hand it it was a 0-0 draw, u win by any scoreline u go through, it stays 0-0 then it goes into extra time.
it doesn't make any sense.
Dream Team 24-02-2005, 09:04:PM Originally posted by Vinnie Jones
It´s not arrogance, it´s confidence. Arrogants are the ones who talk big and have nothing to back it up. He uses this kind of self centered attitude to divert attentions from his players to him since he can handle the pressure pretty well. The incident after the game is just a "fait-divers", a way to motivate the players and the fans to give Barcelona a torrid time in Stamford Bridge.For me his arrogance was funny and good for the spectacle, that's what I thought before yesterday's show.
He talks a lot before the game and then on the field he is a coward. After the game he ran away because he had to eat his words and the press conference would have been very shameful. The incident after the game is the dirtiest thing I've seen in a coach. He's a bad loser and a coward.
Originally posted by Vinnie Jones
You think that Barcelona wouldn´t use a defensive scheme if they played in Stamford Bridge first?Everyone who knows Barça and their history knows the answer.
No, they wouldn't.
Perles 24-02-2005, 09:31:PM Originally posted by Rob
Away goal.
ridiculous notion. straw-grasping.
TheBlueBalla 24-02-2005, 09:45:PM People, please, lets not go crazy about media speculation. Look at Pizzagate, still dont know what happened there. I hope that all this isnt sore losership from Chelsea, but I know that this draw is a long way from over. Barca have been held scoreless before and it could (not will, but could) easily happen against a defense as solid as Chelsea's in two weeks time. I know most people are eager to knock Chelsea down, and thats natural, but I think Vinnie was spot on about how their play was yesterday. It was defensive from the get go by calculation, and after the first few minutes, it had to stay like that because Barca were looking massive on the attack.
By the way, congrats on Maxi Lopez, looks like a gem of a signing. If only he could tame that hair :crazyboy:
Forgot about that diving/cheating bit. Drogba, in my mind, made his own bed with those fouls. Absolute brain cramp on his part, but hes an agressive player. Anyway, Barca dive, Chelsea dive, Arse, ManU, Real, everyone on the bloody planet has players that go to ground when they get touched. I wish it were not the case, but blaming a loss on that is crap. If its done on all sides, the playing surface is level. Chelsea got a statistical titty twister laid on them yesterday, but they are damn lucky all things considered.
solaimaa 24-02-2005, 09:54:PM Originally posted by Vinnie Jones
About the cheating claims, i find it amusing that english ppl always blame their defeats with "diving" accusations. I mean you lose a game because Deco or Ronaldinho "dived" once or two? No, you lose a game because you didn´t do enough to get another result. There can be external factors like bad refeering decisions(Fisk) or stupid behaviours from your own team player (Drogba), depending on your interpretation but if you lose it´s because of your team´s performance and not because of some occasional "teatrics", specially when the players who performed them didn´t get anything out of that.
very well put.
Vagegast 24-02-2005, 11:03:PM Chelsea to report 'tunnel incident'
Frank Rijkaard's discussion with Swedish referee Anders Frisk is the basis on which Chelsea will complained to UEFA.
The club refused to talk to the media after losing their Champions League first leg clash against Barcelona in the Nou Camp stadium last night.
The game was overshadowed by numerous allegations of scuffles between opposing coaches and even a kick up the backside for Mourinho during a heated discussion in the bowels of the Nou Camp.
Mourinho refused to expand on his experiences but the club did confirm that they were to protest in the strongest possible terms to UEFA.
The spark for Mourinho's latest bout of indignation is once again the Chelsea manager's abject dislike of cosy chats between match officials and opposing managers.
Last month Mourinho escaped action from the Football Association for his criticism of Neale Barry's discussion with Sir Alex Ferguson as they walked down the tunnel together at Stamford Bridge during their Carling Cup semi-final first leg.
This time the subject for his unhappiness was Frisk's discussion with Rijkaard during the interval, a chat that the Barca coach does not deny took place. But Chelsea have not complained to UEFA over suggestions that Barca's assistant coach Henk Ten Cate assaulted Mourinho with a kick on his backside during the scuffles.Haha, legend (H)
Originally posted by whuahu
how can a loss ever be better than a draw?? whether its home or away??
even if it's 3-2 to u, u lose, if it's 2-1 to you, it goes into extra time, if it's 1-0, only then u go through. and if it's a draw, u lose again.
on the other hand it it was a 0-0 draw, u win by any scoreline u go through, it stays 0-0 then it goes into extra time.
it doesn't make any sense.
No mate. Let me explain something : the nil-nil draw away, is the worst result possible that you can achieve. Whilst you have to win at home by any means, the away team has an infinity of possible results, which you dont. They can get a draw with goals and get away with it, they can beat you, and they can still get a 0-0 and solve it on penalties or whatever.
Dont forget that if you concede a goal at home if the first leg was 0-0, you're pretty much screwed. And a 2-1 loss on the first leg prevents your team from getting complacent in the 2nd leg, that means Chelsea will come up with all guns firing.
I would prefer a draw away with goals than a 0-0. Plus if you are going to lose, losing only by one goal and getting one on the road is a must. Just look at Juve, lost 1-0, now to kill it on 90 mins they need to win by 2 goals. Chelsea need a 1-0, and they're pretty good at doing that.
faceNside 24-02-2005, 11:12:PM Chelsea tactics:
With Drogba --> 7 (defenders)- 3 (attackers)
W/o Drogba ---> 7 (defenders) - 2 (attacker)
Mourinho hardly sucks. However, 2-1 isnt a bad result for Chelsea, though its hard to get a clean sheet against Barça.
whuahu 24-02-2005, 11:29:PM Originally posted by Grunger
No mate. Let me explain something : the nil-nil draw away, is the worst result possible that you can achieve. Whilst you have to win at home by any means, the away team has an infinity of possible results, which you dont. They can get a draw with goals and get away with it, they can beat you, and they can still get a 0-0 and solve it on penalties or whatever.
Dont forget that if you concede a goal at home if the first leg was 0-0, you're pretty much screwed. And a 2-1 loss on the first leg prevents your team from getting complacent in the 2nd leg, that means Chelsea will come up with all guns firing.
I would prefer a draw away with goals than a 0-0. Plus if you are going to lose, losing only by one goal and getting one on the road is a must. Just look at Juve, lost 1-0, now to kill it on 90 mins they need to win by 2 goals. Chelsea need a 1-0, and they're pretty good at doing that.
dude 0-0 away gives you an infinite number of possible results allowing you to go through, which i stated in my previous post, the 2-1 doesn't.
how are you screwed if you concede a goal at home if the first leg was 0-0? wouldn't you be even more screwed if the first leg was a 2-1 loss? because then that would mean that you've to go out and get 3 goals. or get 2 and then let extra time decide. if it was a 0-0 the 2 goals would do it.
you said you would prefer a draw away with goals rather than a 0-0. that's perfectly understandable. what is not understandable is preferring a loss to a draw, like rob here. if it was actually a preferrable result, then there would be something seriously wrong with the rules.
in juventus' case, they lost by 1-0. a 1-0 loss is definitely worse than a 2-1 loss. i think anyone has the brains to figure that out.
and i know chelsea just need a 1-0, i know theyr pretty good at doing that, and i think u should know that a 1-0 would do it even with a 0-0 draw away.
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