Mexico vs. Colombia (Friendly) on Wednesday February 23rd, 2005 at 10PM/E---7PM/P. The game will be played in Culiacan, Mexico. Colombia is 11-8-3 vs. Mexico. :(

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
Convocados para el partido vs Colombia:
Porteros:
Oscar Pérez (Cruz Azul)
Moisés Muñoz (Morelia)

Defensas:
Salvador Carmona (Cruz Azul)
Aarón Galindo (Cruz Azul)
Héctor Altamirano (Santos)
Francisco Rodríguez (Guadalajara)
Carlos Salcido (Guadalajara)
Gonzalo Pineda (UNAM)

Mediocampistas:
Jaime Lozano (UNAM)
Israel López (Toluca)
Antonio Naelson (Toluca)
Luis Ernesto Pérez (Monterrey)
Fernando Arce (Morelia)
Juan Pablo Rodriguez (Tecos)

Delanteros:
Francisco Fonseca (Cruz Azul)
Alberto Medina (Guadalajara)
Omar Bravo (Guadalajara)
Daniel Osorno (Atlas)

What type of Squad is Mexico going to field?
If they have most of their regulars...Columbia is goin down.

we're missing about 6 vital players... 4 of them from the starting 11. I wont lose sleep over this game though, its one of Mexico's many pointless friendlies this year.

What pisses me off is that they can make all these gay friendlies and sh*t... but when the English FA invites Mexico for a friendly... "there are no available dates". Bullsh*t, I guarantee u they'll find a day for a pointless friendly vs Guatemala or Ecuador. :rolleyes:

true what you say Stunna, and since we always lose our frindly games is better to lose to England than El Salvador or Guatemala.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
What pisses me off is that they can make all these gay friendlies and sh*t... but when the English FA invites Mexico for a friendly... "there are no available dates". Bullsh*t, I guarantee u they'll find a day for a pointless friendly vs Guatemala or Ecuador. :rolleyes: Yeah, I'm still f*cking pissed about that sh*t. How often do we get the chance to play a good team for a change, no offence to teams like Costa Rica or Guatemala but it just seems that we play them all the time, especially Ecuador. :kader: F*cking FMF.

Eh, same here...it be nice to see them play England.

At least Necaxa played Man U.:D (Y) and America-Everton.

Sorry to all the Central American teams, no disrespect. :( :mexican:

it is also a pointless game for colombia, since none of the players, probably with the exception of 1 or 2, are playing for colombia for the worldcup qualifiers. There is a whole new defense, new golie, new midfield and new forwards. its not worth it to take players out of ther clubs to play pointless games, such as these one. Anyway i guess the final score will be 2 -2.

why is Mexico rated so high in the FIFA rating?:confused: they are in the top 10. but i don't remeber they won something in last ten years:confused:

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Originally posted by Bonzi
why is Mexico rated so high in the FIFA rating?:confused: they are in the top 10. but i don't remeber they won something in last ten years:confused:

Because they play mostly crappy teams in qualifying and pound them 7-0......The USA is about the only competition they will run into until they go to Germany.

Originally posted by Bonzi
they are in the top 10. but i don't remeber they won something in last ten years:confused:

99 FIFA Confederations Cup (H)

2-0 Colombia


Mexico sucks at playing friendly's

Colombia will be using almost a total B squad fot this game.. I only see two players from the A squad here in the roster

keepers:
Luis Enrique Martínez (Santa Fe - Colombia)
Breiner Castillo (Aucas - Ecuador).

Defenders:
Freddy Hurtado (Cali - Colombia),
Hayder Palacio (Junior- Colombia),
Humberto Mendoza (Nacional - Colombia),
Pablo César Pachón (Santa Fe - Colombia),
Andrés Orozco (Dorados- México),
Gerardo Bedoya (Puebla de México), *A Squad
Yulián Anchico (Tolima - Colombia).

Mids:
Andrés Casañas (Envigado - Colombia),
Héctor Hurtado (Nacional - Colombia),
Juan Carlos Ramírez (Santa Fe - Colombia),
Aldo Leao Ramírez (Santa Fe - Colombia),
John Javier Restrepo (Cruz Azul de México),
Víctor Pacheco (Atlante - México) *A -Squad
Frankie Oviedo (Puebla - México).

Strikers: Edixon Perea (Nacional- Colombia ),
Luis Gabriel Rey (Morelia -México)
Eudalio Arriaga (Puebla de México).

- Here is Colombia's usual A Squad -

Keepers
Faryd Camilo, Mondragón (Galatasaray Turkey)
Miguel, Calero (Pachuca Mexico)
Juan Carlos, Henao (Santos - Brazil)

Defense
Iván Ramiro, Córdoba (Inter Italy)
Amaranto, Perea (Atlético Madrid Spain)
Gustavo, Victoria (Rizespor Turkey)
Mario Alberto, Yepes (PSG France)
Gerardo Bedoya (Puebla México)
Carlos, Córdoba (Gimnasia Argentina)

Mids
Freddy Indurley Grisales (Colón Argentina)
Giovanny Hernández (Colón Argentina)
Jairo, Patiño (River Plate Argentina)
Elkin, Murillo (L.D.U.Q Ecuador)
Fabián Vargas Rivera (Boca Juniors Argentina)
Jorge , Bolaño (Parma Italy)
Víctor Pacheco (Atlante - México)
Alexander, Viveros (Nantes France)
Andrés, Pérez (Quilmes Argentina)

Strikers
Juan Pablo, Angel (Aston Villa - England)
Jairo Fernando, Castillo (Valladolid - Spain)
Víctor Hugo, Montaño (Istres - France)

:rockman:

Bedoya, Arriaga and Oviedo werent allowed to play by Puebla.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
Bedoya, Arriaga and Oviedo werent allowed to play by Puebla.

Ok so now it will be only one player from the A squad after Bedoya is gone... and why won't they let them play?

Originally posted by Vagegast
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that's exactly what i've thought.

anything > this game;)

I predict a draw.....(:/)

Maybe a 1-1; goals by Omar Bravo and Luis Grabiel Rey.


@ Skull.
Puebla is having a tough year, since they're trying to avoid relegation to Division A. So there's your reason..... :confused:

1-1 final result, I guess.

Colombia 1 - Mexico 0 :)

Originally posted by skull
Colombia 1 - Mexico 0 :) Considering how we play in friendlies, that probably will happen. I don't really give a sh*t about this one though, won't even bother watching it.

Originally posted by ManU2000
Considering how we play in friendlies, that probably will happen. I don't really give a sh*t about this one though, won't even bother watching it.

I'll be watching...., is always good to see the the B squad playing to see what we have in the reserves in Colombia :)

i say 0 - 0

although Colombia played a friendly against korea in USA last time with their B team and they played like **** ,but still managed to win 2 -1 well undeserved match

Does anyone know where the game will be shown here in the US? what tv chanel?

Telemundo at 10:00 LIVE

the boy kikin better do something tonite, really, im kinda sick of the media hyping him up, besides he never does sh!t when he plays for the NT....

Originally posted by Minus
the boy kikin better do something tonite, really, im kinda sick of the media hyping him up, besides he never does sh!t when he plays for the NT.... :|

He scored 3-4 goals in his first couple of games for Mexico and did a great job against Costa Rica, he was all over the place. So what do you mean he never does sh*t for the NT?

Originally posted by ManU2000
:|

He scored 3-4 goals in his first couple of games for Mexico and did a great job against Costa Rica, he was all over the place. So what do you mean he never does sh*t for the NT?

Who are you guys talking about?

Francisco "Kikin" Fonseca

Actually he did do a good job against Costa Rica, but he missed two breakaways on our 2nd string goalie.
He is my fav player on the NT though...I like his style.

your coach is using good youngsters that have actually proven themselves which is excellent , but the Colombian coach is the opposite, Colombian under 20 team just won the south american champion ship with a player that scored 11 goals in the tournement, being the top scorer and our stupid coach does not call him up..



:kader:

Originally posted by ninobomba
your coach is using good youngsters that have actually proven themselves which is excellent , but the Colombian coach is the opposite, Colombian under 20 team just won the south american champion ship with a player that scored 11 goals in the tournement, being the top scorer and our stupid coach does not call him up..



:kader:

You are right, Rodallega should be called up for this kind of games but only for now to see how he does, however when it comes to world cup qualifiers he still needs more experience before they should call him up for world cup qualifying games. I think the coach is not calling him because I belive the under 20 team has some friendly matches to be played and they are probably training.. remember they under 20 world cup will be played this summer... :)

Heres the line-up I would use...

.......................Munoz

.........Maza.....Galindo....Salcido

Pity...........................................Jim my

........................Isra...

................Luisito......Zinha

.................Kikin.....Bravo/Osorno

No Conejo... no Chato... (H)

Alineaciones probables:

México:
Oscar Pérez, Salvador Carmona, Aaron Galindo, Carlos Salcido, Héctor Altamirano, Israel López, Jaime Lozano, Antonio Naelson, Francisco Fonseca, Daniel Osorno y Omar Bravo

Colombia:
Luis E. Martínez, Andrés Orozco, Humberto Mendoza, Gerardo Bedoya, Yulián Anchico, Héctor Hugo Hurtado, Juan Carlos Ramírez, John Restrepo, Víctor Pacheco, Edixon Perea y Luis Gabriel Rey

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
Alineaciones probables:

México:
Oscar Pérez, Salvador Carmona, Aaron Galindo, Carlos Salcido, Héctor Altamirano, Israel López, Jaime Lozano, Antonio Naelson, Francisco Fonseca, Daniel Osorno y Omar Bravo

Colombia:
Luis E. Martínez, Andrés Orozco, Humberto Mendoza, Gerardo Bedoya, Yulián Anchico, Héctor Hugo Hurtado, Juan Carlos Ramírez, John Restrepo, Víctor Pacheco, Edixon Perea y Luis Gabriel Rey

I thought Bedoya wasn't playing due Puebla not allowing him..

Originally posted by skull
I thought Bedoya wasn't playing due Puebla not allowing him..

thats what it said at the stupid espndeportes website... so who would play in his place?

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
thats what it said at the stupid espndeportes website... so who would play in his place?

If I had to pick from the B squad one of these two
Andrés Orozco (Dorados- México)
Yulián Anchico (Tolima - Colombia)

but If I could pick from the A squad either one of these two
Gustavo, Victoria (Rizespor Turkey)
Carlos, Córdoba (Gimnasia Argentina)

I cant believe they're actually playing in Sinaloa... the stadium only holds about 14,000 max. :p

the match is about to start (Y)

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
I cant believe they're actually playing in Sinaloa... the stadium only holds about 14,000 max. :p

the match is about to start (Y)

Is Mexico using the full A squad or are you guys missing most of your starting players also?

Ok, my lineup

_____________Munoz________________
__Maza______Galinndo_______Salcido___
___Carmona____________Lozano______
_____________Lopez________________
________________Perez_____________
_______Kikin___________Medina_______
_____________Bravo________________

I'd say Mexico is using 2 or 3 from the A squad but most of them are from the B squad....

Sinaloa is mostly a Baseball, Boxing crowd and the stadium is so small :( but Omar Bravo is from Los Mochis, Sinaloa

The game is about 15 minutes away....I'm waiting for....

"Mexicanos al grito de guerra ell acero aprestad y el bridón, y retiemble en sus centros la tierra, al sonoro rugir del cañón" :rockman:

My Mexico A-Squad:
____________Sanchez____________
______Marquez_______Salcido_____
_Carmona________________Lozano_
__________Pardo__Torrado________
____Arellano___________Kikin_____
_____________Blanco____________
____________Borgetti____________

Penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PK Taker: Lozano

Result: He missed it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:kader: :(

That referee... they shouldn't have used a Mexican ref for this game is very clear he is calling everything for Mexico but not for Colombia.. all yellows on Colombia have been called while Mexico has had a couple also that he didn't call... now that Penalty kick for Colombia, little doubfull but I think it was a penalty, but when it came to the Mexicans he did not hesitate to call the penalty kick.. but Justice was served and he missed.... anyways they should have used a non Mexican ref for this game at least... :kader:

GOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL
Perea.. Colombia :rockman: although he sucks that was a nice goal to tie the match... Mexico 1 - Colombia 1

End of Match... final Score 1-1 kinda boring at the end... :)

Typical, another 1-1.

What a worthless match....

1 - 1 as predicted...:rolleyes:

All it did, was put more strain on the chivas players, the commentators were calling salcido and "maza" slow, and not knowing how to defend properly........how can they!, when they have played six games in the last three weeks! :nape:

Medina and Bravo did nothing in the game, with the exeption of medina's goal pass.

The midfield played like cr*p, what the hell was LaVolpe thinking when he set that starting line-up? Juan Pablo Rodriguez? Israel Lopez? Arce? Was i watching the same game as everyone else, where the hell were they!?....So-so game by Carmona and Lozano, and let's not mention Zinha :confused: , atleast Pity seemed to have some idea of how to play.


We seriously need to start playing bigger teams ( no disrespect intended for colombia, but that could hardly be called the complete Colombian squad), and have more training games with all the older starters. Lavolpe has had enough games to select players, he needs to get serious already.

(:/)

we missed the complete A squad and your right our coach is doing the same thing, hes trieng out new players every friendly... he should just stick with the qualfieng line up.

nice goal by Perea

but yeah borring match

Originally posted by Shiryu



We seriously need to start playing bigger teams ( no disrespect intended for colombia, but that could hardly be called the complete Colombian squad)

(:/)

Colombia had only one player from the A squad (Pacheco) all athers were reserve players or B squad and tryouts...

Originally posted by ManU2000
He scored 3-4 goals in his first couple of games for Mexico and did a great job against Costa Rica, he was all over the place. So what do you mean he never does sh*t for the NT?
this is exactly wat i meant:
Originally posted by 10Ruud
...Costa Rica, but he missed two breakaways on our 2nd string goalie.
he missed a couple of "easy" goals.
and him scorin all them goals, aint gotta say nothin about that, just look at the teams he scored against, they all WEAK, must i remind you of them caribbean teams???

ohh and about the game from yesterday against colombia, i guess he read wat i had to say about him and set out to prove my ass wrong by scoring against colombia

anyways it was a boring ass game, didnt even finished watchin it.
and can somebody teach lozano how to kick a proper penalty kick, im tellin you we fuccin suck a when it comes to kickin a penalty...

Originally posted by Minus
and can somebody teach lozano how to kick a proper penalty kick, im tellin you we fuccin suck a when it comes to kickin a penalty...

he does know how to score them... he does it all the time for Pumas. You cant make them all though. ;)

Originally posted by Minus
he missed a couple of "easy" goals.
and him scorin all them goals, aint gotta say nothin about that, just look at the teams he scored against, they all WEAK, must i remind you of them caribbean teams??? He never played against the Carribean teams, they were either South American or European (when we played Sweden). I'm 99% sure he didn't play against any of them.

Originally posted by Minus
can somebody teach lozano how to kick a proper penalty kick, im tellin you we fuccin suck a when it comes to kickin a penalty...

He did one better when he played here in CR....hammered in a nice free kick....he did blow the penalty last night though.

Originally posted by skull
Colombia had only one player from the A squad (Pacheco) all athers were reserve players or B squad and tryouts...

this is probably the squad that's going to CONCACAF's Gold Cup this summer.

we are invited again to the gold cup?

thats pretty nice specially to test out players, but on friendlys the real squad should play! or i want to see some skilled youngsters

but Canada is going to win the Gold cup this year :rockman:

Originally posted by ManU2000
He never played against the Carribean teams, they were either South American or European (when we played Sweden). I'm 99% sure he didn't play against any of them.
nope im gonna have to prove you wrong, he did play against one of them teams and he even scored a couple of goals, could someone thats good wit stats look that up, ill do it but im too lazy, probably do it later on

and about canada winnin the gold cup, LOL they didnt qualify for the next round of the qualifiers

Originally posted by Minus
nope im gonna have to prove you wrong, he did play against one of them teams and he even scored a couple of goals, could someone thats good wit stats look that up, ill do it but im too lazy, probably do it later on

he made his debut vs Ecuador... and he played vs St. Kitts twice and scored 4 goals.

Originally posted by #1 Stunna
he made his debut vs Ecuador... and he played vs St. Kitts twice and scored 4 goals. Ah sh*t. :crazyboy: Still, Kikin has done well for us, he's played wherever Lavolpe has put and has done it well. Sh*t, he played on the right side of midfield against Costa Rica and was all over the place. I don't know if you've got something against him but he's had a positive impact on the NT, whether you agree with me or not.