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Vagegast
27-02-2005, 11:24:AM
Beeping Ball Gets Test

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CARDIFF, Wales (AP) -- A soccer ball containing a microchip that beeps when it crosses the goal line will be tested at this year's under-17 world championship.

The International Football Association Board, which makes the rules for world soccer, agreed to the trial Saturday at its annual general meeting.

The microchip ball, which was produced in part by Adidas, was used in a game between Nuremberg and Nuremberg reserves on Wednesday in Germany.

When the ball crosses the line, the microchip transmits a signal to a watchlike device on the referee's wrist, making either a beep or vibration.

``Not a day goes by without technology making progress,'' FIFA president Sepp Blatter said. ``We therefore have a duty to at least examine whether new technology could be used in football.

Blatter added that the key issue is to make sure the technology does not undermine the officials or rules of the game.

The English Football Association also offered to experiment with the ball. However, the Premier League and Football League use balls made by rival manufacturers.

The under-17 worlds are set for Sept. 16-Oct. 2 in Peru. The technology most likely will not be ready for next year's World Cup in Germany.

Calls for new technology resurfaced in England after Tottenham was denied a clear goal at Manchester United on Jan. 4. Goalkeeper Roy Carroll dropped the ball behind the line, but the officials missed the call.

The IFAB, in rulings to take effect July 1, also decided that:

--any tackle endangering a player's health will earn an automatic red card.

--a player is offside if he is nearer to his opponent's goal line than both the ball and next-to-last opponent. ``The position of any part of the player's head, body or feet will be the deciding factor, and not the player's arms,'' the IFAB said.

--six substitutes will be allowed for international exhibitions.

--opponents must be at least 2 yards from a thrower until the ball is in play.

Since its inception in the late 19th century, the IFAB has met annually to review soccer rules. The IFAB consists of four representatives from FIFA and one each from the soccer associations of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

ishan1990
27-02-2005, 11:41:AM
beeping ball....

I wonder what would happen if it failed to work one time and a team was denied an obvious goal because of its faliure.

whatever, i'm just being a pessimist.

kickin_kyle
27-02-2005, 11:43:AM
Originally posted by ishan1990
beeping ball....

I wonder what would happen if it failed to work one time and a team was denied an obvious goal because of its faliure.

whatever, i'm just being a pessimist.

if it was obvious then how would the ref miss it?


looks like a good idea to me.

Joe Star
27-02-2005, 04:06:PM
I suppose the ball will have to beep real loud huh.......with all the background noise etc........ (H)

Zauli
27-02-2005, 04:17:PM
this isnt such a bad idea if the ball would beep and would send a vibration to the refs watch then it wouldnt be so bad.

Drvar
27-02-2005, 04:56:PM
i have a video somewhere, of technology to be used in football, but its quite big, so if someone has a place where i can upload i will.
the ball contains a chip, and the player's shinguard or whatever it is, contains one. the shinguard chip measures everything, how much the player ran, how many shots he took, how far away from goal he is at any given time, etc. its pretty interesting.

Fernandez
27-02-2005, 05:53:PM
A microchip in a ball doesn't solve the problem. You need microchips for different sides of the ball.

yim87
27-02-2005, 06:36:PM
erm. centre of the ball.

t00ft
27-02-2005, 08:50:PM
but the whole ball has to cross the line.
then you'll start giving goals that might've been split second saved.

johan
27-02-2005, 09:00:PM
This better be in PES/WE as I see many ref mistakes..

t00ft
27-02-2005, 09:01:PM
actually in prevo i dont see much ball over line mistakes.

more other ones though.

Drvar
27-02-2005, 09:47:PM
if the microchip is in the center of the ball, all you need is the diameter of the ball information, to determine if the whole ball crossed the line...nothing easier.

ishan1990
28-02-2005, 12:05:AM
Originally posted by kickin_kyle
if it was obvious then how would the ref miss it?


looks like a good idea to me.

remember the tottenham vs manchester game where the ball clearly went in?

i think that its a good idea... but i'm not 100%

Stotty
28-02-2005, 12:58:AM
yeah i saw this on the news last night

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40865000/gif/_40865083_prozone_203.gif

Digitarius
28-02-2005, 03:28:AM
I'm all for technology to help the referees in factual decisions.

realmadridcf
28-02-2005, 03:58:AM
I think its good that something is being done to prevent the obvious mistakes

emjay
28-02-2005, 02:09:PM
well, i think these balls will be worth a bit, and wont be returned from the stands!!

Panna
28-02-2005, 05:38:PM
Finally!
if this works good then it will save us a lot of BS after matches like Manchester - Tottenham

Mayor
01-03-2005, 05:10:AM
Originally posted by emjay
well, i think these balls will be worth a bit, and wont be returned from the stands!! you'd need a pitch with electronic radio locators system and special devices to get it work so it'll be totally useless for average supporter and could be used only as normal ball..

houston3721
01-03-2005, 08:20:PM
the ball only beeps when it crosses the goal line? will it beep if it goes out of bounds? :rolleyes:

This is a good idea, when the referee doesnt know if the ball crosses the line or not, the ball helps. but if the referee sees the ball clearly, then he simply ignores the beep. That means the referee is still the one to decide in this case.

Minus
01-03-2005, 09:50:PM
wat about if the crowd is too loud and the ref doesnt hear that beep???

Drvar
02-03-2005, 01:39:AM
Originally posted by Minus
wat about if the crowd is too loud and the ref doesnt hear that beep???

oh jesus christ, if they made it like that, it would be the ****tiest idea for a football ever. the referee will probably have a watch on him, which will vibrate when it happens, or some **** like that.

emjay
02-03-2005, 01:46:AM
Originally posted by Mayor
you'd need a pitch with electronic radio locators system and special devices to get it work so it'll be totally useless for average supporter and could be used only as normal ball..

i know its prob functionally useless to the collector, but when has that stopped them!

emjay
02-03-2005, 01:48:AM
just a thought after writing my last post - does that mean everytime the battery runs out and needs replacing, you have to burst the ball?

:confused:

Mayor
02-03-2005, 01:58:AM
Originally posted by emjay
just a thought after writing my last post - does that mean everytime the battery runs out and needs replacing, you have to burst the ball?

:confused: I think they'll be able to re-load it like a handphone, you just pick a wire into it and load instead of pumping

Ubik Valis
02-03-2005, 02:12:AM
Originally posted by Minus
wat about if the crowd is too loud and the ref doesnt hear that beep???



Hahahaha :|:D:D:|:D

you fool :(

mannyb28
02-03-2005, 02:13:AM
as long as it helps the game be more fair

Ubik Valis
02-03-2005, 02:17:AM
Originally posted by emjay
just a thought after writing my last post - does that mean everytime the battery runs out and needs replacing, you have to burst the ball?

:confused:


No, they'll be running on special nuclear batteries that can run for years......even when submerged.

Vagegast
02-03-2005, 02:22:AM
I assume they'll be using Duracell. I mean, if it's good enough for Bon Jovi, it's good enough for FIFA :(

manutd4eva
02-03-2005, 02:25:AM
Energizer > Duracell

Just for the bunny alone.:(

Mayor
02-03-2005, 02:26:AM
I hope the ball will shine during screamers so we could see the comet tail :p

manutd4eva
02-03-2005, 02:31:AM
Originally posted by Mayor
I hope the ball will shine during screamers so we could see the comet tail :p

Like in EA's FIFA World Cup 2002.(H)

Rob
02-03-2005, 02:48:AM
That game sucked.

manutd4eva
02-03-2005, 02:51:AM
Yea, but the flaming balls were orgasmic.:wootman: :o :(

kickin_kyle
02-03-2005, 03:02:AM
Originally posted by houston3721
the ball only beeps when it crosses the goal line? will it beep if it goes out of bounds? :rolleyes:

no, there is a watch-like device that beeps. probably not because those decisons aren't as crucial to the flow of the game and are easier to see for the linesmen.

Bobby
02-03-2005, 03:04:AM
Exactly, we won't hear the damn beep, only the ref will.

So it's not going to bother anyone.

Mayor
02-03-2005, 03:09:AM
the funny thing will be if supporters will break the frequency which will be used to send a beep, imagine those beeps in each penalty box action (H)

emjay
02-03-2005, 03:57:AM
lol, yeh - work out the frequency and make handheld radio emitters!

mega montana
02-03-2005, 05:35:AM
interesting idea

it'd definitely help the game