Dirty C*nts v Filthy Asses
The Toilet
Tuesday, 10 May
Kick-off: 2000 BST

Man Utd (from): Howard, Carroll, G Neville, P Neville, Ferdinand, Brown, Silvestre, O'Shea, Fletcher, Fortune, Ronaldo, Kleberson, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Miller, Van Nistelrooy, Smith, Rooney, Saha, Bellion.

Chelsea (from): Cech, Cudicini, Makelele, Terry, Johnson, Gallas, Carvalho, Robben, Gudjohnsen, Drogba, Smertin, Tiago, Lampard, Cole, Forssell, Kezman, Jarosik, Geremi, Huth, Duff.

If Chelsea get a result, Rooney beats woman, it will hand Arsenal 2nd place.

A win for Chelsea and they will better Manchester United's mark of 28 wins in a 38-game season, Ronaldo is gay, while two more points will see them eclipse United's all-time Premiership record haul of 92 - which was set in a 42-match season in 1993-94.

Ruud van Nistelrooy will lead the line for Manchester United against Chelsea as he has returned from Kentucky.

If Frank Lampard starts it will maintain his unbroken run of Premiership appearances which could reach 145 at Old Trafford.

Chelsea: In defence, Kezman is terrible, they must let in less than three goals at Old Trafford and against Newcastle at St James' Park on Sunday to beat Arsenal's record of 17 goals conceded, the fewest in a Premiership campaign.

lol great post. I'll probably watch the game, should be good.

1-1

ruud, drogba

I think there's some subliminal messages in Bobby's post. :p

Hilarious. LOL!

Is it me or i smell jellousy in assenal fans. Bobby your arrogance is second to Wengers only...with a difference u at least speak english. :rolleyes:

Mourinho > ALL.

Is it me or i smell jellousy in assenal fans. Bobby your arrogance is second to Wengers only...with a difference u at least speak english. :rolleyes:

Jealous of what? I didn't insult Chelsea.

And Man Utd are behind Arsenal.

manchester 2-0 chelsea

rooney x2

Chelsea 25 - 0 Man. U.


Ferdinand OG x2
Howard/Carrol OG
Rooney OG x 6
Van Nisterooy OGx8
Keane OG x3
Gary Neville OG
Silvestre OG x2
Ronaldo OG
Lampard


And Sir Alex gets fired after the game.

Should be a great watch. (Y)

So much Money cannot be wrong, can it? :fool:

I'm completely with Bobby !!! (H)

''Ronaldo is gay'' (H)

Anyway, i hope for a Chelski win, so ManU can die in hell, and quickly get taken over by Glazer and then have there badge changed to a flamengo. (Y)

2 - Chelski
0 - Flamengo's

Howard/Carrol, blunders.

Cheers.

Chelsea 25 - 0 Man. U.


Ferdinand OG x2
Howard/Carrol OG
Rooney OG x 6
Van Nisterooy OGx8
Keane OG x3
Gary Neville OG
Silvestre OG x2
Ronaldo OG
Lampard


And Sir Alex gets fired after the game.

keep showing how idiotic you are

man utd 500- 0 chelski
everton 900- 0 assnel

Chelsea 25 - 0 Man. U.


Ferdinand OG x2
Howard/Carrol OG
Rooney OG x 6
Van Nisterooy OGx8
Keane OG x3
Gary Neville OG
Silvestre OG x2
Ronaldo OG
Lampard


And Sir Alex gets fired after the game.

You suck at life.

ManUtd to win 2-1.

Chelsea 25 - 0 Man. U.


Ferdinand OG x2
Howard/Carrol OG
Rooney OG x 6
Van Nisterooy OGx8
Keane OG x3
Gary Neville OG
Silvestre OG x2
Ronaldo OG
Lampard


And Sir Alex gets fired after the game.

you prove again you are a dumbass. (Y)

I won't be able to watch the match since I'll be in Cologne to see Jack Johnson, why did they have to play on a tuesday. The match should've been on a wednesday dammit! I'll watch the highlights when I get back...

I think we'll beat Chelsea.

I really couldn't care less.

This game is at 4am or 5am my time, I ain't going to watch it because meh. The result of the game is academic, it doesn't matter. Chelsea will finish 1st, Manchester United will finish 3rd. The only record I care about is being the Champions of 2004/05 which we are.

Oh and for the record, we will win 2-0.

u wish u will win we will win tonight!

English is the preferred language on this forum.

Your dialect of moron/stupidity is unfavourable around these parts.

Thankyou

:jap:

Manchester 2-0
Rooney
Roanldo

Chelsea 25 - 0 Man. U.


Ferdinand OG x2
Howard/Carrol OG
Rooney OG x 6
Van Nisterooy OGx8
Keane OG x3
Gary Neville OG
Silvestre OG x2
Ronaldo OG
Lampard


And Sir Alex gets fired after the game.

Hahaha... sure.. Ruud managing to score 8 OG as a forward.. :jap:
hope you put your life savings betting for that scoreline!!


2 - 1 Man Utd..

Ruud, Lampard, Rooney...

what is this game for?

hilarious bobby.But :kader:


Man Utd 3-1 Chelski
Ruudx2.Saha
Gudjhonson

as gary said"OUR NEW SEASON BEGINS TODAY"

Manchester United 1-0 Chelsea is my prediction. We won't score that any and Chelsea won't concede that many.

I hope to see UTD win......the way this season has gone who knows....???
Could be 0-0.....could be 4-0 UTD....I hope for the latter.

It had better be a good game...
its 1.42am here and the game starts at 3am...yes im staying up to watch it :fool:

Man Utd 2:1 Chelsea

No John Terry for the remainder of the season (including this game)

United line-up


Carroll
Gary
Rio
Brown
Silvestre
Fletcher
Keane
Scholes
Ronaldo
Rooney
Ruud

Subs: Howard, Fortune, O'Shea, Smith, Saha

chelsea lineup anyone?


are terry and lampard confirmed in the lineup? and carvalho is out? cudicini keeps on the net?

Oh why, oh why can't Fergie give youngsters a chacne :(

Chelsea:
Gudicini
Johnson
Huth
Carvalho
Gallas
Makelele
Geremi
Lampard
Cole
Tiago
Gudjohnsen

subs:
Cech
Forssell
Jarosik
Morais
Grant

Silvestre back at Left Back!! :D:D

he's best there imo - well except when Heinze is fit of course

I think we'll win this one 2-0 :)

anyone got a good video stream??

I say United to nick it by the odd goal.

now THAT was gay

I think we'll win this one 2-0 :)

anyone got a good video stream??

Well it's not working for me, maybe it's just my connection so you could try:
http://66.111.47.26:3504/;stream.nsv

Ruud Van Nistelrooy! Tra La La La La(8)

1-0 (H)!

:D :rockman:

Tiago :(

1-1

Carrol left it, bounced in off the post apparently.

OMG! What a goal!

He's very good with long range shoots.

Mourinho face was great! LOL :D

great goal by TIAGO!!!!

Carrol left it??

Cracking strike. Tiago! :rockman:

OMFG...What a great goal by Tiago.. :eek:

amazing goal by Tiago. just blasted it :). great game so far.

who was the twat that said Tiago sucked again?

I'm not saying he sucks.....but how does one strike prove someone doesn't suck?

I'm not saying he sucks.....but how does one strike prove someone doesn't suck?

Good point

I think Carroll should've saved Tiago's shot..

whoever said he sucks didn't base his opinion on facts either. Maybe this brilliant goal will change his mind. He hasn't been brilliant this season but he's been very underrated.

Ricardo Carvalho just showed why he's world class on that tackle on Ruud :Bow:

Yellow for Keane.Nice tackle it was. (H)

Sheringham10, i don't know if he would have saved it, but he should have at least try to do so, not just stand there.

I think Carroll should've saved Tiago's shot..

Sorry, but that comment is way to dumb.

He's not Super-Man you know?

BTW, Tiago is not in his best shape, i believe it is because of the groin injury that he had at Benfica that is still making effect. But he's a great player, just need to be better fisically and you'll all see that he's very good.


BTW, amazing the way Carvalho just took off the ball from Ruud.

Donno am watching an average quality stream (RTS2), it looked as if he could've saved it but he just stood there.. oh well

any link for the stream....? :p :)

Joe Cole almost scored

any link for the stream....? :p :)

sure.. here.. (http://people.freenet.de/yoshi7/streams/rts2live.ram)

Not a very good stream, but its better than nothing :)

Carvalho with his studs showing on Ruud. :nape:

Rooney shows some "sportsmanship" again :).

sure.. here.. (http://people.freenet.de/yoshi7/streams/rts2live.ram)

Not a very good stream, but its better than nothing :)

what program do i need to use that?



btw - Carvalho's a dirty shi't

Ht: 1-1

what program do i need to use that?



btw - Carvalho's a dirty shi't

Real player

Half time.. :)

Carvalho with his studs showing on Ruud. :nape:

he went for the ball and got the ball you pussy, don't see you complaining about Keane's tackle.

Tiago's goal was an absolute cracker.

For those who can't watch it on TV, try this program, http://www.coolstreaming.org , download the program and open it.After you open it, open Windows Media Player, choose 'espn' from the coolstreaming list click on the 'espn' link, first the stream will be buffering a lot but after 5 or so minutes it will be with good quality.

he went for the ball and got the ball you pussy

You'll just never give up on defending Carvalho.. he is a dirty player, be realistic

who was the twat that said Tiago sucked again? :ewan:


(H)

You'll just never give up on defending Carvalho.. he is a dirty player, be realistic

he's not but so what if he was. Don't you praise Roy Keane's dirtyness on a daily basis? Or are you just hypocrit to the point you can't even reckon that fact.

ooooh snap

Hehe, as Vagegast said in the other thread Tiago wouldnt be there if Mourinho wouldnt be with Chelsea but then again, knowing how much Roman knows about football all the players that Chelsea have bought this season are there because of Mourinho.

he's not but so what if he was. Don't you praise Roy Keane's dirtyness on a daily basis? Or are you just hypocrit to the point you can't even reckon that fact.
The point was that the fact that Carvalho is Portuguese somehow blinds you from seeing that he's a dirty player.. and no I don't praise dirty players in general..

For those who can't watch it on TV, try this program, http://www.coolstreaming.org , .

Thanks!

WOW......Nice strike Wayne!

Another absolute cracker, this time by Fletcher!
Too bad it only hit the bar..

This match is going past my expectations, very nice to watch indeed :jap:

meh.. 1-2 now :(

2-1 :( Gudjohnson

Ronaldo dive, lost the ball, down the other end and scored :(

Beautiful goal!

Great assitance of Tiago and amazing finish of Eidur!

Beauuuuutiful! (H)

What a ****ed up goal

What a ball from Tiago providing a beautiful finish by Eidur.

Tiago must be shutting some mouths today :ewan:

Not really. One good performance doesn't mean he's good. He'll be replaced in the summer, Chelsea aren't buing Essien to replace Lampard or Makalele their getting rid of Tiago.

United are falling apart.....I can't wait til next season...this one has been ridiculous!

Our defence looks like **** :(

Not really. One good performance doesn't mean he's good. He'll be replaced in the summer, Chelsea aren't buing Essien to replace Lampard or Makalele their getting rid of Tiago.

Nah, you guys don't know him, Mourinho does, and he knows that if he's 100% fit he's a great player, Tiago is on his way to full recovery and he's still young, i believe he will stay and make a very good season next year.

What a ball from Tiago providing a beautiful finish by Eidur.

Tiago must be shutting some mouths today :ewan:Only if you're foolish enough to judge a player by one game.

Only if you're foolish enough to judge a player by one game.

Unlike you and most of people here he saw Tiago performance during two/three years, so he knows what he's talking.

If hes so good why are Chelsea trying to buy a world class midfielder? They obviously want better. Essien will not be played in a squad rotation roll.

because they need a playmaker you twat not a replacement for Tiago :rolleyes:

they were linked with Xavi too and I bet you that's the kind of player they'll buy

because they need a playmaker you twat not a replacement for Tiago :rolleyes:


so their gonna replace Lampard? :nape:

They will play this system-


----------Essien------Makalele------Lampard---------


----Robben--------------------------------Duff------

Oh shizzle my nizzle all those players are 10x better than Tiago.

Hush hush Dreath, Essien is coming to United :(


i wish

3-1 :nape: Cole maybe ?

Mourinho doesn't play the same formation every game, he oftens plays just Makelele as the only DM. Tiago is mainly a defensive player.

Anyways 3 - 1 offside goal

dammit Man Utd suck. You lot better not play well in teh FA cup final.

1-3 Cole.. He was definately offside :|

man utd is now 20 points from chelsea :nape: who would though on that difference at the beggining of the season?! :o

Mourinho doesn't play the same formation every game, he oftens plays just Makelele as the only DM. Tiago is mainly a defensive player.

Anyways 3 - 1 offside goal


Yes he does. Every game this season he's played that formation, bar injury of course.

three in the middle and two on the wings.

Unlike you and most of people here he saw Tiago performance during two/three years, so he knows what he's talking.Uhm, I don't think MaSsiVe was talking about himself. He said "Tiago must be shutting some mouths today." But only people foolish enough to judge a player by one game would change their mind on Tiago.

As for MaSsiVe knowing more on Tiago, that's true. But since he's Portugese he's likely to be biased so I take his opinion with a grain of salt. Stop being so defensive and do the same thing with my opinion. I don't get pissed when people call van Nistelrooy overrated. Get over yourself.

Offside yes, but Carroll sux....he barely tried...even if he thought it might be offside he should have stopped it...we need a GK.....we need more but a GK would be a start!

Haha, two men in offside and the linesman was busy mastrubating over Tiago :(

Only if you're foolish enough to judge a player by one game.

Man I've seen him play since he was still in Braga, it's better for you to shut the f'ck up instead of saying dumb sh't about me.
Most of you guys, yes, speak about him judging only by this season, how ironic :hump:

And I'm no football expert but I can assure you all that Tiago will stay with Chelsea next season.

You'll see :ewan:

FIRE FERGIE!!! :kader:

It is going to take a lot to beat Chelsea, they didn't even break a sweat to score those goals, true champions IMO, they deserve it. Their defence is superb, it only makes me jealous, I hope SAF makes some good changes for next season, we really need it....

Yes he does. Every game this season he's played that formation, bar injury of course.

three in the middle and two on the wings.

he plays another defensive midfielder (which is Tiago most of the times) or another attacking midfielder to partner Lampard (Joe Cole).

Check your stuff, that's what he played in the last game vs Arsenal.

Manutd your a fooking embarrasement , at least Arsenal give Chelsea a good game , looking forward to kicking your asses in the FA Cup. You deserve nothing.

he plays another defensive midfielder (which is Tiago most of the times) or another attacking midfielder to partner Lampard (Joe Cole).

Check your stuff, that's what he played in the last game vs Arsenal.

No... Joe Cole plays Left wing, Duff right wing with three in the middle. He's played like that ALL season.

Statistics:
Man Utd - Chelsea
attempts on target 10 - 5
Goals 1 - 3

:nape: :nape: :nape:

No... Joe Cole plays Left wing, Duff right wing with three in the middle. He's played like that ALL season.

dude... check it and stfu please, he played 442 in that game and he oftens plays it.

man, chelsea are just to good....it's gonna take at least another season for english teams to adapt to mourinho....the man is g-e-n-i-u-s. maybe in a couple of seasons the premiership will be close once again..:rolleyes:

and you're hearing it from an arsenal fan...(although a very proud-of-jose-portuguese-football-fan:p:p:ewan: )

As for MaSsiVe knowing more on Tiago, that's true. But since he's Portugese he's likely to be biased so I take his opinion with a grain of salt.

Why should my opinion be biased about Tiago, I speak about players whether they are portuguese or not, and my opinion is based only on a player's skills, not nationality.

I was speaking before about those mouths being shut, because a goal like that should convince anyone that he can't be as bad as some say (H)

Statistics:
Man Utd - Chelsea
attempts on target 10 - 5
Goals 1 - 3

:nape: :nape: :nape:

Those stats mean nothing my friend , you played like chumps and those chances you had were at best half chances.

dude... check it and stfu please, he played 442 in that game and he oftens plays it.

I can't be arsed to argue. I think Tiago is a good player, but he's replaceable. I also believe that Chelsea have not played with two strikers up front this year.

Sigh, how disappointing.

Graham Poll headbutting Ronaldo was funny though. :(

Crap performance from the players after taking the lead. Chelsea deserved to win and Rio, after the second goal, you don't deserve your demands.

dude... check it and stfu please, he played 442 in that game and he oftens plays it.

I thought Mourinho played a 4-3-3 system, with Robben and Duff on the wings when attacking and then changing to to 4-5-1 in defence, Lampard the most attacking midfielder, Tiago in between defence and attack, and Makelele all defence. He uses almost the same system as van Gaal's succesfull Ajax

man, chelsea are just to good....it's gonna take at least another season for english teams to adapt to mourinho....the man is g-e-n-i-u-s. maybe in a couple of seasons the premiership will be close once again..:rolleyes:


True, but he's not unstoppable.. We've seen Newcastle Utd knocking his side out of the FA Cup while Liverpool knocked them out of the CL..

I thought Mourinho played a 4-3-3 system, with Robben and Duff on the wings when attacking and then changing to to 4-5-1 in defence, Lampard the most attacking midfielder, Tiago in between defence and attack, and Makelele all defence. He uses almost the same system as van Gaal's succesfull Ajax


EXACTLY!

Those stats mean nothing my friend , you played like chumps and those chances you had were at best half chances.
Not really, some of them were good.. Fletcher hitting the crossbar, Rooney's good effort, Scholes coming very close etc.. what are you on?

eer...you sure read my post when i said 'the premiership'

True, but he's not unstoppable.. We've seen Newcastle Utd knocking his side out of the FA Cup while Liverpool knocked them out of the CL..

We could have beaten them if we defended like Liverpool. Sigh :nape: How disappointing for the fans.

True, but he's not unstoppable.. We've seen Newcastle Utd knocking his side out of the FA Cup while Liverpool knocked them out of the CL..

Haha Newcastle, that game he messed up, like 3 of his players got injured.

eer...you sure read my post when i said 'the premiership'
Yeah i know, but my point was that Chelsea got beaten by premiership teams but in different competions..

EXACTLY!
We play the 4-4-2 alot of the time also, saying we only play a 4-3-3 is a bit neive because our tactic changes all the time.

We play the 4-4-2 alot when out team sits back and lets the opponents play infront of us. We played a 4-4-2 against Barcelona with Gudjohnsen and Kezman upfront.

well, Chelsea deserved the win. by the way, i realised why United has so many shots on goal, its because Rooney and Ronaldo fire away at every chance they get from 30m :).

ok...you win..happy? oh wait...you lost.

We play the 4-4-2 alot of the time also, saying we only play a 4-3-3 is a bit neive because our tactic changes all the time.

We play the 4-4-2 alot when out team sits back and lets the opponents play infront of us. We played a 4-4-2 against Barcelona with Gudjohnsen and Kezman upfront.

So why do you usually start with 1 striker and 5 midfielders?

Man I've seen him play since he was still in Braga,What's your point? You're still biased. it's better for you to shut the f'ck up instead of saying dumb sh't about me.http://www.worldcupjapankorea.com/photo_gallery/group/d/USA_soccer_obriengoal.jpg
Most of you guys, yes, speak about him judging only by this season, how ironic :hump:Yeah, because that's the only season I've seen him play.And I'm no football expertClearly.but I can assure you all that Tiago will stay with Chelsea next season.You'll see :ewan:Yes, because of Jose Mourinho.

Haha :D

Anyway, I just want the season to be over already :( I really hope we'll produce a good performance in the FA Cup and win it..

http://www.worldcupjapankorea.com/photo_gallery/group/d/USA_soccer_obriengoal.jpg

*looks for pictures of Portugal spanking Holland on several occasions* :ewan:

I have a feeling that we will bounce back in the FA Cup final, today they had a similar reaction, but Tiago's goal was to much of a shock, which they never recovered from,

Why did you post that pic? Aren´t you an afghan who roots for Holland? Why don´t you post pics of the euro2004 semi final? Oh of course you won´t, your team lost 2-1. Well you could post another pic then, of Holland in the World Cup 2002. Ah you can´t because Portugal was the main responsible for Holland not being able to qualify. So easy to win in Rotterdam. It was easy as this Chelsea victory with a Tiago goal.

let's not hijack the thread please :p

Wow Vagegast, that was awesome. Especially that pic that has nothing to do with the discussion.

What's your point? You're still biased.

My point was that I surely have seen his evolution as a player, a thing that even with you saying that you have done too, I don't believe you actually did.

Yeah, because that's the only season I've seen him play.

Bullseye.

Clearly

, or else I'd be coaching Chelsea.

Yes, because of Jose Mourinho.

I thought he was the coach :rolleyes:



:ewan:

Chelsea have only lost four times at Old Trafford in 37 years (30 matches), with a record of 12 wins, 14 draws and 4 defeats.

:jap:

Chelsea have only lost four times at Old Trafford in 37 years (30 matches), with a record of 12 wins, 14 draws and 4 defeats.

:jap:

Wow! That's a really impressive record, congratulations!

Why did you post that pic?Because of the quote. Look at the quote corresponding with the picture. I wouldn't have posted it if he hadn't said. I know it gets you guys fired up. That's why I posted it.Ah you can´t because Portugal was the main responsible for Holland not being able to qualify. So easy to win in Rotterdam.As if finished 3rd in a group with South Korea, the U.S. and Poland is something to write about (H) We didn't qualify for the first time since 1986. You guys qualified for the first time since 1986. Wow Vagegast, that was awesome. Especially that pic that has nothing to do with the discussion.But you threathening me was a very admireable thing to do (Y)My point was that I surely have seen his evolution as a player, a thing that even with you saying that you have done too, I don't believe you actually did.I admitted that already. There's no point in having a discussion if you're just gonna repeat the same stuff over and over again.

Congrats on the win, Rob.

But you threathening me was a very admireable thing to do (Y)

I've :drevil:threatened:drevil: you m8? How, where, when?
Don't be a pussy, I have in no way done such thing, we are just talking for f'ck's sake :|

I admitted that already. There's no point in having a discussion if you're just gonna repeat the same stuff over and over again.

You were the one asking what my point was after I had already made my point clear.
But you're right, "There's no point in having a discussion if you're just gonna repeat the same stuff over and over again."


:sun:

we are just talking for f'ck's sakeThan don't get your panties in a twist everytime someone dares to question the indisputable truth concerning a Portugese player.

Most Portuguese users on this forum won't ever admit anything against Portuguese players..

Than don't get your panties in a twist everytime someone dares to question the indisputable truth concerning a Portugese player.

I didn't, you were the one quoting me in the first place just because I said that Tiago should be shutting some mouths today..

But hey, this is getting us nowhere right? (H)


Btw, it's PortugUese :p

Most Portuguese users on this forum won't ever admit anything against Portuguese players..

Don't flatter yourself, I couldn't care less about what you think about any portuguese player :evil:

As if finished 3rd in a group with South Korea, the U.S. and Poland is something to write about


I didn´t brag about our performance in the world cup. I bragged about beating Holland in Rotterdam and preventing Holland from qualifying. It´s completely different.

I am just now reading the first post of this thread

funny sh*t Bobby (Y)

:funny:

What a goal by Tiago

I didn´t brag about our performance in the world cup. I bragged about beating Holland in Rotterdam and preventing Holland from qualifying. It´s completely different.Yeah, congratulations on 3-year old achievement. As if outsmarting van Gaal is so hard. Please.

You were the one posting pics from Wc2002. I also mentioned last year´s semi final. That is surely still fresh in your memory. And yes you are right it is easy to outsmart Van Gaal but it isn´t as easy as outsmarting someone who constantly changes his arguments according to his convinience. Usa, Holland perhaps now you can eludicate us about Afghanistan´s football achievements. This is like an immigration osmose process. You only pick the good aspects that allow you to act like a little bully. It isn´t impressive and has no credibility.

Nice result for Chelsea. I had no idea they had such great results at Old Trafford these past years...

Tiago is a really really good player, but he's not at its best phisically,and this is just his first season. He always made a lot of assists and scored an average of 15 goals/season in Benfica (many from outside the box with both feet). Besides that, he's still very young.

About some people saying he's not good, maybe you should trust who actually saw him playing for several seasons. Actually, he joined Chelsea but had offers from great clubs like Barcelona so he wasn't like a Mourinho's bet. He already was followed by some of the bigger european teams.
Portuguese defend portuguese players when they're good, and we know Tiago is one of them. Luckly we're having some great players lately,in our league... Or do you think is luck to get 3 times in a row to a UEFA competition final,plus European Championship? Maybe Tiago is a very good player as portuguese say he is. And wait to see Manuel Fernandes or João Moutinho...
But we already get used to it...people telling that our players suck and then become idols in their teams..so....

Miserable game for United. I thought that Terry' s absence wud have had a larger impact on United' s ability to move forward and penetrate but it didn' t. Chelsea didn't seem to do as much attacking as they are capable of, but they countered brilliantly. Their midfield was awesome. I would have liked to see Ryan Giggs on the left and Ronaldo on the right since the kid doesn' t seem very comfortable on the LW. I agree that Rooney should be playing alongside RVN...Ruud was not supplied enough. I expected them to go all out in front of their fans for the last time this season .... they did a reasonable job but again...I am really surprised that Chelsea' s defence held as strong as it did w/o Terry. Expected more from the richest club in the world. Very impressed with Chelsea..they underlined the changing tides in English football !

You were the one posting pics from Wc2002.Than how is Portugal's performance at THAT World Cup "completely different." If you're gonna mention Holland's failure to qualify, than it IS relevant for me to argue that Portugal sucked. And yes you are right it is easy to outsmart Van Gaal but it isn´t as easy as outsmarting someone who constantly changes his arguments according to his convinience. Usa, Holland perhaps now you can eludicate us about Afghanistan´s football achievements. This is like an immigration osmose process. You only pick the good aspects that allow you to act like a little bully. It isn´t impressive and has no credibility.Oh, what a load of crap. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. You got pissed at that picture. End of story. Why won't you admit that?

Seriously, what a load of horsecrap. Oh... Figo is a cheat, Ronaldo belongs at a circus and Divo belongs on the diving team. How is that for credibility?

saw the highlights, beautiful goal by Tiago, what a shot :jap:

where can i get the highlights?

we got robbed!

No, you got owned.

Shutup.

So why do you usually start with 1 striker and 5 midfielders?
Because the manager picks them? :rolleyes:

Because we play two wide wingers in a 4-3-3, however thats not to say we don't play a 4-4-2. Many a time we have done that.

Seriously you counting Eidur as a midfielder or striker also? Because he has been dropping back alot.

That "Portuguese don't recognize the flaws of Portuguese players" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!

Do you hear us saying Ricardo (Sporting's GK) is great? Do you hear us saying that Abel Xavier, Boa Morte, Vidigal, etc, are great players? No, you don't. Simply because this hasn't anything to do with their nationality. There are several Portuguese (or from any other country) players that are indeed great or very good, but obviously many many more that simply suck.

We don't say they are good because they are Portuguese, get it? It's because we REALLY think they are good. And since we actually know the Portuguese league and see the games every week, unlike you, we obviously know much more than you the qualities of a player, in this case Tiago. Whether they end up suceeding or not is a totally different story and it doesn't mean a player lack quality, there are many factors involved as for instance the adaptation to another country.

Anyway, I think Tiago is doing quite well at Chelsea. Sure, he hasn't been outstanding and those of us who know him for several years can clearly see he isn't at his best. He's also not a "flashy" kind of player, but instead a very intelligent and efficient "box-to-box" midfielder.

That "Portuguese don't recognize the flaws of Portuguese players" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard!


Kind of an unfair generalization based on the opinions of only a few people..oh well, this isn't exactly the most reasonable and mature forum out there so it comes with the territory.. I certainly have negative opinions about a lot of Portuguese players...to me, Paulo Ferreira is nothing special, Quaresma has a trick or two but generally sucks, and I won't even get started on Ricardo...you could dedicate an entire thread to how he's an amatuerish GK...

Anyways, I'm a fan of Tiago myself.. It was sad to see him leave Benfica, he was a lot more influential there ofcourse, but his discretion at Chelsea is to be expected given the competition. He has a lot to offer though and will continue to show more quality the longer he plays in the EPL I think. He's got great vision, wins a lot of balls in midfield and distributes the ball well to the offence. I don't agree that he's at Chelsea only because Mourinho is there, obviously he had some influence in bringing him to that club, but just before signing with Chelsea clubs like Barcelona and Juventus were trying to add him to their rosters. He was en route for a bigger club regardless..

Not gonna get into the "remember when we owned you in..." and "you sucked at..." crap, I'll leave that to you fellas on the playground. :)

I didn't have the opportunity of watch this game... highlights anyone?

Huth did a very solid job at center back, this position suits him much better than RB.

You got pissed at that picture. End of story. Why won't you admit that?


I didn´t get pissed, i couldn´t care less about your opinion or your childish atempts to wind up ppl, i just asked what did that pic have to do with the subject in question. Seems to me that you were the one who got pissed (that last paragraph of yours is a good example) by my accurate analysis of your behaviour.
Btw i don´t wanna hijack this thread so i´m done wasting my time with you.

Shinji, if you think that Tiago is better or made a better season than Paulo Ferreira, then you are clearly biased. Paulo Ferreira has much more influence in the Chelsea team. Go to any Chelsea forum and compare the impact that both made. You will see that they are clearly more satisfied with Paulo Ferreira´s performances. About Quaresma, in terms of raw talent, Quaresma is great player, the problem is his mentality and inconsistency. Tiago is just a useful squad player, who will be used in rotation basis, if Mourinho buys a world class midfielder. There are far more important players in Chelsea´s midfield than Tiago.

I just saw the resume of the game about one hour ago, great goal by Tiago!

seemed a bit lucky though..

anyways, good job chelsea..

We were poor..congrats to Chelsea, worthy champions indeed..;)

Huth did a very solid job at center back, this position suits him much better than RB.

it's funny how Huth has become almost a cult figure at Chelsea, hehe.. In a way it's too bad because Benfica is going to need a CB to replace Luisao at the end of the season, and given our good relationship with Chelsea I had actually thought a Huth move to Benfica was possible (especially in a trade with Manuel Fernandes), doubt it now though..

i am ashamed to see man utd be beaten in such a ridiculous manner.

and another thing is that almost all decisions go against united.The third goal was offside and if it did not count we could have got something from the game.

but hats off to chelsea and jose who beat us even with half their full strength squad.
worthy champions.

i just read some posts which say that "LET THIS SEASON END.The NEXT ONE WILL BE GOOD"

this is what we said last time.the club needs changes.
we need to sell off some crap players wh haven't helped in any cause

fortune
bellion
saha
kleberson
miller


with the funds we can buy a good player.
we need some flair like the times of cantona.
Essien has to be the top of list candidate.
but i can foresee chelsea snatching him from our noses yet again :boohoo:

if such happens we can say bye bye to success for next 2-3 seasons cause chelsea are starting to grow.
a good winger who can cross and provide ruud is needed.
ronaldo is still learning.we need a massive signing.

sometimes the way the club acts pisses me off.
but being a united fan forever,i am sure that if our team remaind injury free next season and we have a good PRESEASON then we can rise back up

Congrats to Chelsea on breaking ManUre's Premiership points record... couldn't have ended the season with a stronger statement than to do it at ManUre's stadium on their final home game. The look on Fergies face... priceless.

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/afpji/20050105/050105174005.bwrhd6z10b.jpg

:rofl:

Why would Man Utd sell Fortune?

to me, Paulo Ferreira is nothing special

I always thought this, but hearing it from someone who's Portuguese is great to hear (Y).

I rate him as the best RB in the world at least based on his performances last season. He was ******* class at Porto.

well, I could go on about how superior Miguel is compared to Ferriera at RB, but then I'll get swarmed by the Porto faithful... c'mon, I'll take all you motherf*ckers on!! :taz:

Paulo Ferreira is overrated. Miguel is better and you saw that on euro2004.

Ahh, didnt get to follow the game, but of course im "well chuffed" at the result. I cant believe the record at OT that Rob posted. Incredible, given the decade of United's domination as a force in England. One thing id like to comment on, though, is the respect shown by the United players at the beginning. That "honor guard" was classy to no end, and i hope that when chelsea are knocked off, they do the same. (Y) Somehow, I really didnt expect it.

Oh, and Tiago? Whoooaaa.... It looks like the team is going to pick up a bigtime midfielder, but hes been outstanding this season most of the time, as a true box-to-box guy and he has played the role well. I hope hes going nowhere.

I always thought this, but hearing it from someone who's Portuguese is great to hear (Y).

Yeah, yeah, he just said that to point out later how superior Miguel is. :p :kader:
Well, both were plagued by injuries this season, so it's hard to judge. Miguel was in better form during the Euro2004, but Paulo has been more consistent throughout the last 2 seasons with Porto. The Benfica player is clearly better on the attacking end, but Paulo has the edge on defense.
Mind you, he's on a new club, in a different country. I expect him to shine at his full potential this season, if he's lucky enough to stay healthy.

Btw, I haven't see Tiago's goal. Anyone has it?

that Tiago goal was some alien s****

watched the game....and i am more frustrated.
We start off well with the rvn goal and create some chances.Chelsea do the same and thought the score at half time was fair,though the Tiago shot was well....unbelievable.

But, wtf happens to utd in the second half? :nape: I mean,all season we have this problem of keeping this momentum going in the second half. That is why we lost the games this season in the league. Dunno wtf SAF says at half time but it sure didnt help the team. And i have to say Chelsea passed the ball better than us and split the utd defence like it wasnt there.

I am sure SAF will have some work to do before the FA final. So,hope to
"see the devil in them" on Sunday. Good luck (6) Saints

I rate him as the best RB in the world at least based on his performances last season. He was ******* class at Porto.

I second that...

I am busy with Exams recently...


Why giggs didn't paly?

I rate him as the best RB in the world at least based on his performances last season. He was ******* class at Porto.
Was class this season also after the first few weeks in a new country. Unfortuantly his injury hasn't helped :(

Anybody still has highlites from this game?