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The Official Arsenal Thread [Season 2005/06]

Final Season at Highbury (1913-2006)

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1886

Colours
Red and White

Kits

Stadium
Arsenal Stadium, Highbury (http://www.arsenal.com/images/theclub/highpic09.jpg) (1913-2006) - 38,500
Emirates Stadium, Ashburton Grove (http://www.arsenal.com/images/thestadium/gallery/large/img3.jpg) (2006- ) - 60,000

First Team Squad (2004/05)

GK 1. Jens Lehmann
GK 13. Stuart Taylor
GK 24. Manuel Alumnia

DF 3. Ashley Cole
DF 12. Lauren
DF 18. Pascal Cygan
DF 20. Phillippe Senderos
DF 22. Gael Clichy
DF 23. Sol Campbell
DF 27. Emmanuel Eboue
DF 28. Kolo Toure
DF 31. Justin Hoyte
DF 35. Johan Djourou

MF 4. Patrick Vieira (Captain)
MF 7. Robert Pires
MF 8. Freddie Ljungberg
MF 15. Francesc Fabregas
MF 16. Mathieu Flamini
MF 17. Edu
MF 19. Gilberto
MF 39. Sebastian Larsson
MF 42. Quincy Owusu Abeyie
MF 47. Ryan Smith
MF ? David Bentley

FW 9. Jose Antonio Reyes
FW 10. Dennis Bergkamp
FW 11. Robin van Persie
FW 14. Thierry Henry
FW 30. Jeremie Aliadiere
FW 33. Adam Birchall
FW 40. Arturo Lupoli

Honours

League Champions
1930/31, 1932/33, 1933/34, 1934/35, 1937/38, 1947/48, 1952/53, 1970/71, 1988/89, 1990/91, 1997/98, 2001/02, 2003/04.

FA Cup Winners
1930, 1936, 1950, 1971, 1979, 1993, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2005

League Cup Winners
1986/87, 1992/93

Community Shield Winners
1930, 1931, 1933, 1934, 1938, 1948, 1953, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004

European Fairs Cup Winners
1970

European Cup Winners' Cup Winners
1995

Records

Goals
Ian Wright 185
Thierry Henry 181
Cliff Bastin 179

2004/05 Achievements

2004/05 Premiership runners up (2nd, P38 W25 D8 L5 GS87 GA36 GD51 Pts83)
2005 FA Cup Champions
2004/05 UEFA Champions League second round

Top scorers:
Thierry Henry 30
Freddie Ljungberg 17
Robert Pires 14
Jose Antonio Reyes 12
Robin van Persie 10

Attention whore. (H)

wow you guys are quick!!

Attention whore. (H)

We don't take too kindly to your types around here. Shut it or I sic our many rabid rabies-infected randoms on you. :(

Nice front page (y)

but check your PMs. There's some info I sent you.

any news about any transfers?? wenger might buy caroll since he's just got released.


Players Released by Arsenal:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=280860&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Arsenal+set+to+release+five+young+professional s&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Arsenal+set+to+release+five+young+profession als

any news about any transfers?? wenger might buy caroll since he's just got released.


Players Released by Arsenal:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=280860&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Arsenal+set+to+release+five+young+professional s&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Arsenal+set+to+release+five+young+profession als

god we better not get him...

lol...as long as he perfomes it's ok ;)

We don't take too kindly to your types around here. Shut it or I sic our many rabid rabies-infected randoms on you. :(

Dirty yet Strong, Powerful Words. (H)

Anyway awesome intro too frost. (Y)

lol, i think i heard or read somewhere that Tony Adams might be going to Feyenoord for some coaching position.

Yeah, here's an article about it.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/football/articles/18925833?source=Evening

no way will we buy carroll, hes worse then playing wenger in goals.............and plus why would we buy MAN U rejects

u never know...anything can happen cuz after all 'this is football' :jap:

We could go after Frey, i hope, but Man U are trying to get his signature also, Niemi is another possibility.

MF 42. Quincy Owusu Abeyie




....?

isnt it FW 42. Quincy

MF 42. Quincy Owusu Abeyie




....?

isnt it FW 42. Quincy


He can play-

CM, RM, LM, FW


And about Goalkeepers. Go for Isaksson or Green

Guily Wants Henry:-
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281037&CPID=23&CLID=3&lid=&title=Giuly+speaks+of+Henry+hope&channel=Premiership

pl. henry don' leave us...cuz only a few months back he said he would play for Arsenal for his whole life

We can win without Henry, BUT no Henry is like having no sun rotate around the planets :kader: :kader: :nape:

I think Wenger will be buying a keeper and possibly a good Edu replacement for next season........ I think Owusu should get more first team action... the guy has amazing technique but really just needs to work on his finishing......... and hes only like 19 i think.....

And of course if Reyes leaves in the summer we will have to buy a new forward.....

Guily Wants Henry:-
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281037&CPID=23&CLID=3&lid=&title=Giuly+speaks+of+Henry+hope&channel=Premiership

pl. henry don' leave us...cuz only a few months back he said he would play for Arsenal for his whole life


Apparently they offered 20 mill for Henry :rofl:

We'll accept no less thhan 100 mill. That's what was offered by Chelsea and we turned them down.

henry is the heart of arsenal he should never leave

Just a sidequestion here, when will Arsenal show the new away kit? It's stated on the official site that they will be changing this summer, so something should be shown soon.

http://www.arsenal-mania.com/?page=articles&view=full&article=172139

you can only see the back of it though...... I like it a lot so far..... :rockman: :rockman:

Looks pretty good, would you guys rather see Patrick or Thierry leave?

Just a sidequestion here, when will Arsenal show the new away kit? It's stated on the official site that they will be changing this summer, so something should be shown soon.
They are generally released sometime in mid-to-late July.

And about Goalkeepers. Go for Isaksson or Green

Isaksson would be good, but Green can go f*ck himself. I thought he was good but as I review the season he's not what we need. We should go after Kameni or Frey.

Looks pretty good, would you guys rather see Patrick or Thierry leave?

none :kader:
barca r a big bunch of no hopers

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/Article.asp?id=281227

ROBINHO in talks with Arsenal

I doubt we will get him but hey who knows

I hope u do get him so we can see more coverage of him in England.

Robinho aint a thug though. :hit:

He also isnt American

TECHNICALLY he is American, but neways he would be good he suits our style of football

Just a sidequestion here, when will Arsenal show the new away kit? It's stated on the official site that they will be changing this summer, so something should be shown soon.

http://www.arsenal-mania.com/?page=...&article=172139

That is the new HOME kit, i must admit i haven't seen the new away kit, although i really hope its yellow (or gold maybe) :jambo: :jap:

i think they should buy isaksson :P

allright guys i need an input,my birthday is coming up in june (very soon!!!) anyways i wanna get a jersey but i dont' know whose name to put on the back of it cause i love all the guys so i dont care whose it is but i can't choose,so any input? i'm really thinking d-menace but i don't know if hes staying

Senderos....the future, no?

Yeah the new away kit is probably gonna be yellow. I'm 99% sure it is.

Is it true that you guys are getting Robinho?

Yeah heres something....

Santos ace Robinho reveals Arsenal talks

Santos star Robinho has confirmed Arsenal are keen to sign him.
Robinho told the News of the World: "Arsenal have been in touch with my people in the last few days and they have made me aware of the offer.

"I am very proud that they are looking at me because a club like Arsenal doesn't come in for you every day.

"It would be a dream for me to play alongside Thierry Henry, we will continue to talk."

There are so many clubs after Robinho. I don't think that he will end up in England. I think Real has the advantage of getting him, Chelsea is trying to get him to, but they will send him to PSV for about 2 years to get some experience before ending up at Chelsea. And I don't think Wenger will splash al of his funds on him, 14 mil. is not enough and with Real and Chelsea having a lot of money they have the best chance of getting him.

I seriously doubt we will get him

There are so many clubs after Robinho. I don't think that he will end up in England. I think Real has the advantage of getting him, Chelsea is trying to get him to, but they will send him to PSV for about 2 years to get some experience before ending up at Chelsea. And I don't think Wenger will splash al of his funds on him, 14 mil. is not enough and with Real and Chelsea having a lot of money they have the best chance of getting him.



14mill is more than enough for him, you would be stupid too pay more than 15mill for a player that is unproven in Europe

14mill is more than enough for him, you would be stupid too pay more than 15mill for a player that is unproven in Europe

He is a HUGE talent you know and young, plus he is one of the starting 11 of the Brazilian NT, I don't think that 14m is enough.

He is a HUGE talent you know and young, plus he is one of the starting 11 of the Brazilian NT, I don't think that 14m is enough.

He is benched, unlike Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo or Adriano.

Kaka cost how much- and he was just as big a talent as robinho is now- its true he not proven in europe- no-one wants to risk another Denislon situation

No one will play more than 12 million for Robinho (except Chelsea, but who cares about them).

Remember thats 14m Pound's not Euro's or Dollar's.

I wouldn't trust any quotes that come out during the whole Robinho transfer saga, especially when they are to biased newspapers such as Marca or The NoW or The Sun, these guys will manipulate quotes to sell papers. Remember in Jan he was almost certain to go to Madrid.

I say just wait and see, because the game that the Arsenal scouts went to see had 2 teams, and the other was Gilberto's old club so we may have also been looking at some unknown after being tipped of by Gilberto, like Reyes told us who to look out for at Sevilla. Although i would be great to see him in an Arsenal shirt although it seems unlikely to me. I think Torres from At. Madrid is a greater possibility especially after they finished 11th, and he is apparently demanding european football.

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Henry and Forlan win Golden Shoe (6)

Villarreal's Diego Forlan and Arsenal's Thierry Henry and will share the Golden Shoe award for being this season's top goalscorers in Europe.

Ex-Manchester United striker Forlan scored twice on Sunday for his Spanish team to join Henry on the 25-goal mark.

Henry becomes the first player to win the award two years in a row.

It is only the second time it has been shared. In 1989/90 Bulgarian Hristo Stoichkov and Mexican Hugo Sanchez were the joint winners.

Henry is the sixth player to win the award twice, joining such legends as Eusebio and Gerd Muller.

Forlan's double came as Villarreal beat Levante 4-1 to clinch a spot in the next season's Champions League.

"It's been an incredible season and we couldn't have finished it in better style," the Uruguayan said.

"I'm very happy to have ended up as top scorer as it is something that doesn't happen every day.

"Qualifying for the Champions League is a prize that we all deserve as we worked hard for it throughout season."

Yes amazingly this is the very same Forlan, who could was once commented on (By a BBC commentator) that "you know your defence has problems when Forlan starts scoring against you".

There was very little chance of us getting Robinho, now that it's out there it's impossible.

LOL the only reason Forlan even gets to share the boot with Henry is cause Henry didnt play like the last 7 games for us...... to be fair Forlan did work his ass off in the season and truely deserves sumthin for proving all his critics dead wrong......

Porto payed 7 million for Diego and Robinho should cost roughly around the same

yeah, but didnt Forlan miss games at the start of the season? dont know how many though.

Robinho is on his way 2 madrid aint he?. i dnt think arsenal need another forward. They need Shaun Wright-Phillips !! :rockman:

Why would Arsenal even need to dish out huge sums of money on Robinho? Is the attack really a problem for you guys?

No it's not. we need someone at the back and in goal.

LOL the only reason Forlan even gets to share the boot with Henry is cause Henry didnt play like the last 7 games for us...... to be fair Forlan did work his ass off in the season and truely deserves sumthin for proving all his critics dead wrong......


But tbh Henry scored many penalties, Forlan only 1, meanwhile the teammate of Forlan, Riquelme, scored 8 penalties :-)

I dont know what season you were watching but Henry scored more penalties last season when we won the title...... This year he didnt have many pks.....

But tbh Henry scored many penalties, Forlan only 1, meanwhile the teammate of Forlan, Riquelme, scored 8 penalties :-)

Lauren takes our penalties

But tbh Henry scored many penalties, Forlan only 1, meanwhile the teammate of Forlan, Riquelme, scored 8 penalties :-)

The real reason behind Forland winning the pichichi is simple: Juan Roman Riquelme

If we get Robinho we're going to have problems deciding who plays upfront. With the likes of Quincy already knocking on the door..

We could go after Frey, i hope, but Man U are trying to get his signature also, Niemi is another possibility.
I thought you said you didnt like the Arse...unless of course you mean 'we' as in Barca going after Frey, in which case thats the first ive heard of that

So what is the deal with that little race for Ramos' signature you all were involved in? I remember it looked as if you or ManU were gonna get the lad from Seville, but since then ive heard nothing

The real reason behind Forland winning the pichichi is simple: Juan Roman Riquelme

the most stupid thing that i read in this forum!!! you dont know anything about football man
and its Forlan not Forland

Robinho can also play out on the left or upfront so he could be Pires Replacement with Reyes up front anyway he aint here and probably wont be so lets not worry about the situation

Bad news?? (N) :-

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281633&CPID=23&CLID=3&lid=&title=Barca+have+Henry+dream&channel=Premiership

Not that bad, If he does come to us, he'll will still be playing beautiful, flarey football, both Arsenal and Barcelona win in style, i'd love to see one day Dinho play for the Gunners. :)

i'd love to see one day Dinho play for the Gunners. :)

Have you gone insane? I'd never ever say that about my club's best player. That's wishing him away!

And no, Titi won't go.. Come on, he loves Arsenal. Truly. Madly. Deeply. :fool:

So what is the deal with that little race for Ramos' signature you all were involved in? I remember it looked as if you or ManU were gonna get the lad from Seville, but since then ive heard nothing

He signed a new Sevilla contract which raised his get out clause to something stupid like 27m Euro's, and the chairman said that they will accept nothing less than that. So basically its only you lot and R.Madrid who can get him now. :nape:


As for Henry, i would say he is least likely Arsenal player to move, i think he said once that he owes his career to AW, mainly because 1) for starting it at Monaco 2) for rescuing it after Juve, so aslong Wenger is around then i think Henry will as well. Plus the whole 'Spainish football racism thing', i think would put him off going especially because he has spoken out soo much against some of the things that have happened and gone on in Spain recently. (:/)

Have you gone insane? I'd never ever say that about my club's best player. That's wishing him away!

And no, Titi won't go.. Come on, he loves Arsenal. Truly. Madly. Deeply. :fool:

well let's just hope so :jap:

Preseason to date:

July 29
Ajax Amsterdam
Amsterdam Tournament

July 31
FC Porto
Amsterdam Tournament

I'm sure we have a date against Barnet at Underhill aswell.

We'll also be in Austria once again, and will NOT be playing any of the other big names touring there, as Wenger likes low key preperation and not pissing contests.

(Y) wonder whether wenger will go siteseeing there also(scouting)....

Robinho targets Spain switch

Robinho would prefer to move to Spain rather than England the player's agent has revealed after it was announced that both Arsenal and Juventus have shown an interest in the Santos youngster.

Wagner Ribeiro revealed that the two clubs had added their names to the list of prospective clubs showing an interest in the outstanding forward.

Both Juve and the Gunners had scouts watching Robinho in Santos' recent Copa Libertadores encounter with Universidad de Chile.

"Robinho has attracted the interest of the best clubs in the world," Ribeiro said.

"Not only does Real Madrid want him, but also Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea and Juventus have all made enquiries, although he would prefer to move to Spain rather than England."

But Robinho's first choice would be to move to Real Madrid as there is already a large Brazilian contingent at the Santiago Bernabeu.

"Things would be a lot easier at Madrid," Riberio continued. "Especially as there are so many Brazilians there already."

Coach Wanderley Luxemburgo is a big fan of the highly-rated 21-year-old and he would link up with national team stars such as Roberto Carlos and Ronaldo.

Reports in England recently suggested that Arsenal are preparing a bid, but they face an uphill battle to stop Madrid from landing him after the Spanish giants began the process of securing his services many months ago.

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hope you guys didn't get your hopes up :ewan:

and i will mourn with you if Henry goes to Barcelona. but dont worry. he will stay. :)

Bergkamp signed a new deal today, so it's official.

also

July 16
Barnet v Arsenal
Underhill

Here's some good news...dein has just said tha he's not goona let henry go whatever the price may be. Dein said that henry was made for arsenal. Just saw his interview .

Correct me if im wrong but R.Carlos and Ronaldo are the only 2 Brazilians at Real?

It aint that much of a difference to us just having Gilberto is it??

But if Robinho did come it would be amazing.

Henry's staying at Highbury:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=282112&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Henry+is+staying+at+Highbury+-+Dein&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Henry+is+staying+at+Highbury+-+Dein

Join the fixtures list:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=281949&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Join+the+Fixtures+Emailing+List&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Join+the+Fixtures+Emailing+List

WEnger week:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=281852&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Wenger+Week+-+the+season+in+quotes&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Wenger+Week+-+the+season+in+quotes

Cole:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=281919&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Cole+-+Premier+League+statement&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Cole+-+Premier+League+statement

Wenger faith benefits VP:-
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?article=282111&lid=NewsHeadline&sub=Wenger%27s+faith+benefits+Van+Persie&navlid=&sublid=&Title=Wenger%27s+faith+benefits+Van+Persie

Correct me if im wrong but R.Carlos and Ronaldo are the only 2 Brazilians at Real?


Luxemburgo ;)

Sol Campbell's Brother Jailed for Attack

Sol Campbell’s brother was jailed for 12 months today for viciously attacking a university classmate after a gay slur against the England star.

John Campbell, 34, kicked his victim senseless, shattering his jaw and several teeth during a local football club training session.

His injuries would probably have been much worse if others had not pulled the “extremely aggressive” defendant away.

Mark Goldstein, who was struck so hard that stud marks were imprinted down one side of his head, was taken to hospital with blood pouring from his mouth.

He underwent surgery to have two metal plates inserted in his face to hold his multiply fractured jaw together, London’s Snaresbrook Crown Court heard.

He was then admitted to a ward where he spent several days sipping liquidised food through a straw.

Campbell, of Hathaway Crescent, Manor Park, east London, who claimed self-defence, was convicted by a jury earlier this year of one count of causing grievous bodily harm on February 26 2004.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4641548

bull**** charge. the mother****er deserved the beating. if he's gonna be a loudmouth he should be prepared to defend his words. he got owned, end of story.

Cole's a goner. :(

cole can go. screw cole. we don't need players who are willing to brake the rules just to get out of the club.

clichy's turn.

:ewan:

screw cole.

http://images.thisislondon.co.uk/v2/sport/football2/arsenal030605_350x450.jpg


Good picture of new kit

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=121961
Aw pwoud, very pwoud. (H)

Wow so clever.. No Team Spirit?
How many Arsenal's Goal have been the result of Team spirit football this season?
prolly more than other teams..

btw.. Is Gay Slur Legal? as Racist chants aint legal..
He deserverd it for not taking care of his mouth -.-

*sry for my english ><

When do you guys move into your new stadium?

there is a news from chinese newspaper said arsenal approach to a 18 years old marseille players, who is that player?

edit: samir nasri? :confused:

Yes, we're linked with him.

Hes a Gun in my FM game AM/F RLC worth 24 000 000 pounds in 2012

We seem to judge players by FM too much these days :hump:

Ashley Cole is a disgrace, he simply doesn't deserve Arsenal. If Wenger and Dein are seriously not going to consider the option of selling to the highest bidder now, then they should let him rot in the reserves for two years - putting his England place in jeopardy in the process - and give Clichy the #3 shirt, that lad has bags of talent. Less fµckwits like Ferdinand and Cole and more of the likes of Terry and Carragher is what football needs right now.

According to the Premier League commission which ruled on the tapping-up scandal on Wednesday, Cole pulled no punches in his conversation with the Chelsea hierarchy when he said that Arsenal had no team spirit, was run by the French players and he would rather be at Stamford Bridge.

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=121961
Aw pwoud, very pwoud. (H)

Agree, except for Terry? Terry is nearly as dimwitted as Ferdinand, actually. The only reason he seems to be a quiet honest worker is that he's too ******* thick to know how to speak.

Hes a Gun in my FM game AM/F RLC worth 24 000 000 pounds in 2012

nah, my scout said he have no future in professional football (H)

When do you guys move into your new stadium?
Begining of 2006/2007 season, I think. :confused:

Quote
According to the Premier League commission which ruled on the tapping-up scandal on Wednesday, Cole pulled no punches in his conversation with the Chelsea hierarchy when he said that Arsenal had no team spirit, was run by the French players and he would rather be at Stamford Bridge.


Thats funny 'cos Sol Campbell said the same thing about the Frenchies at Arsenal and the lack of team spirit....part of the reason that he has been frozen out as a matter of fact.

Frostwolf....you talk outa your arse dude....Your mob would give anything to have Terry in your back four......think before you speak man 'cos you always end up looking silly......... :ewan:

Why do Gooners have such a pathetic attitude towards Cole now?If your boss promised you a raise and then when the time came he said "No ,bollocks i aint gonna pay you what i said i would"...what would you do?....Take it like a pussy or say "f.u.c.k. you ass hole you can stick your job up your ass".....i know what i would do....because i've done it before.You idiots should be annoyed at your club for treating one of your players this way.You have a wierd and warped sense of perspective........... :kader:

Sell Cole for 15 mill+

But who will we buy?

anyone French i guess............ :funny:

anyone French i guess............ :funny:

Patrice Evra!

Good call.

Why do Gooners have such a pathetic attitude towards Cole now?If your boss promised you a raise and then when the time came he said "No ,bollocks i aint gonna pay you what i said i would"...what would you do?....Take it like a pussy or say "f.u.c.k. you ass hole you can stick your job up your ass".....i know what i would do....because i've done it before.You idiots should be annoyed at your club for treating one of your players this way.You have a wierd and warped sense of perspective........... :kader:

Sad that a chelsea fan has to be the one to come and say this. I'm sad and disappointed about the public meeting, cole should not have been there, but arsenal are not blameless.

respect Jigger (Y)

From my knowledge Wenger didn't promise him a pay rise. Ashley Cole was not happy with his contract, fair enough. So he went out to get a new one, illegally, Arsenal are not completely innocent because hypothetically we should of given him a great contract or something like that. But the problem is, is that you can't do that with football contracts. It's not so simple like in FM where you offer 80k and they sign and everyone's happy. Daved Dein is not stupid, he's a very astute guy who knows the financial constraints Arsenal are under. If he can only offer 55k a week to Ashley and he wants 60k, that is all he's going to offer. No player is bigger than his club, and never should be.

Wenger and Dien promised him 60K....Hill Wood is the one who said no.This is recorded as fact in the PL enquiry.As for Dein....he has had more companies fold under his chairmanship than i've had hot dinners....the facts are there to find....just type his name into Google

Wenger and Dien promised him 60K....Hill Wood is the one who said no.This is recorded as fact in the PL enquiry.As for Dein....he has had more companies fold under his chairmanship than i've had hot dinners....the facts are there to find....just type his name into Google

David Dein Saved My Life (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8483-1104535,00.html)

David Dein: Kingmaker (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/2262081.stm)

The first two things which come up.

One from alan Davies ...a gooner......the other telling us how much money he has made off your club........SO?...dig deeper for the stuff that you dont really wanna know

From my knowledge Wenger didn't promise him a pay rise. Ashley Cole was not happy with his contract, fair enough. So he went out to get a new one, illegally, Arsenal are not completely innocent because hypothetically we should of given him a great contract or something like that. But the problem is, is that you can't do that with football contracts. It's not so simple like in FM where you offer 80k and they sign and everyone's happy. Daved Dein is not stupid, he's a very astute guy who knows the financial constraints Arsenal are under. If he can only offer 55k a week to Ashley and he wants 60k, that is all he's going to offer. No player is bigger than his club, and never should be.

Wenger also questioned if it was worth losing the player for the difference, but its short sighted to think of it in terms of that difference in amount, rather than on principle. He is one of the senior team players(experience in the team than age) and a home grown player at that and has always been loyal, his actions with regard to a very public meeting are very disappointing, but arsenal cant be allowed to have the uper hand without a challenge, this is the basis for any negotiation in almost all contractual negotiations in pretty much any field.

I consider it a lame argument also that issue of 'being bigger than the club' thing comes up, dein was on tv mid last week and was talking about how we pay our top players at comparative market rates, and until this came up some were going on about how he was the best left back,but arsenal after initially agreeing to the contract, then backtracked who wouldnt be pissed off,and what kind of impression are the club giving, especially as this is not the first time something like this has happened. Edu revealed the games arsenal were playing with him, and after hed already been pissed off and made up his mind he was leaving, arsenal then came up with the what he had asked for all the while, same with wiltord and now pires, you can argue the age issue with those guys but it just even makes arsenal position over the cole affair more ridiculous.

It's not the fact that Cole was trying to get a new deal or whatever. It's the fact that he's appealing the decision against him claiming he has a right to find other job opportunities while still under contract. Sports is an entirely different business compared to other regular jobs and he signed a contract KNOWING what the rules are.

He can leave as there are other talents that Wenger can unearth. I don't even care about him being a homegrown player as it doesn't even matter considering we have enough already.

Patrice Evra!

Good call.

Evra's been absolute horse****e this season. We're better off with Clichy.

So has Ashley Cole be transfer listed or will he actually stay? I'm thinking the former but I haven't been around this forum in a while so I'm not sure. :D

Buy Dede from Borussia, another brazilian and he'll bring with him robinho, done and done

Well it's yet to be seen how the Cole affair unravels, but I really hope it works out. But if Cole's gonna be a money-whore he can go join Makelele at Chelsea.

'Birds of a feather flock together'

Money-Whores--->Chelsea---->Roman----->Cole

But if Cole's gonna be a money-whore he can go join Makelele at Chelsea.

Makelele is no money whore.

Buy Dede from Borussia, another brazilian and he'll bring with him robinho, done and done

You guys have $16-20m to spend? Because that's how much he's going to cost.

Makelele is no money whore.



You guys have $16-20m to spend? Because that's how much he's going to cost.

We have an estimated £45 mill.

Why's there a Chelsea fan in here having a go at every single thing we say?

I reckon Cole will stay, put in a few good performances and all will be forgiven. He'll probably leave after his contract expires, though.

Frankly I'm sick of all the crap we've been seeing in the media lately, Colegate, Freddie threatening and all that I just want to see some f'in good news.

Well, it looks for certain that A.Cole is gone...... Every news you turn to that is the story on page 1............. :nape:


Well looks like Wenger has to do more shopping than planned....... I think we will be making 3 or 4 signings this year. 2 of them being well known players......

Yeah it looks like Cole is leaving

Cole departure (http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s22/e6876/sport_lng0_spo22_evt6876_sto726995.shtml)

Ljungberg to follow

Ljungberg doubting Arsenal (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=334979&cc=5901)

heh, Ljunberg said it good. arsene is always building a team for the future, not for the present. also i wonder how much influence the french players really have, after Cole's words. I'm sure Henry is a huge influence, but who else? Vieira had to bully Arsenal for a new contract all last summer, so i dont think he's in good relations with Wenger.

Lehmann,Campbell,Toure,Senderos,Lauren,Cole,Llunbe rg,Gilberto,Bergkamp ,Van Persie, Fab ,Reyes

I can go on and on..... its not like more than half the team is full of french players.. I think they just dont get along with Wenger..... LOL everyone calling this the french team when our starting line up only consist of 3 of them....

I think its time for SWP..... Llunberg can fluck off if we get sean P

since Cole said he won't go to another EPL team because he doesn't want to play against Arsenal, where do you guys think he would go to?

Real Madrid and warm the bench for a season. Or AC Milan (what a defence that would be :Bow: ) and win the CL.

Barcelona of course. :D

I hear he's being sold off to spain, and we're using some of the money to buy cover for Clichy.

i think he won't join real cause he knows carlos will prob have to rotate with him so yeh, Barcelona probably casue silvinho and bronkhorst were arsenal players so loook how many good left backs we prduce and clichy gonna be another so i say cole will go to barca and link up with ex team-mates

He'll probably stay in England, but yeah there are rumors that he might go to Spain, but he might end up like Owen. :boohoo:

Spain is the most viable option. Chelsea aren't buying him because of the whole tapping up saga and they look to be getting Del Horno. If he goes to Barca, there's no reason for him to end up like Owen. Although it'd be funny if he did and he took Gio's place at 2 different teams. I don't know about Real Madrid buying him...

Although it'd be funny if he did and he took Gio's place at 2 different teams.

Silvinho, actually.

I'd take Gio back.

Atleast he has some class.

Makelele is no money whore.



You guys have $16-20m to spend? Because that's how much he's going to cost.


Well id imagine we would after cole is gone

I'm sure you guys in London don't want to see Cole wearing a Madrid shirt :-puke:. We need an awesome LB, Both Gio and Sylvinho aren't really good enough, i must admit we wasted money on Sylvinho.

I have a feeling you guys might get Patrice Evra..... :)

We dont really care where he goes along as he doesnt stay in an Arsenal Shirt

This sux :( i hate the media:-

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=282551&CPID=8&CLID=3&lid=&title=Freddie+in+Gunners+warning&channel=Premiership

why is this happening to us???

this is getting very confusing:-

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=282647&lid=2&cpid=8&title=Lehmann:+Cole+happy+at+Arsenal&channel=Football_Home

We won't be getting a leftback, I reckon. We have Clichy. Besides, Cole won't leave and I know it.

But if he left to Barca and took over Silvinho's place it'd be so weird.

since when does Silvinho have a place in Barça's lineup? The first left back in the picking line is Gio's.

if cole leave then there would be only one (campbell) starting 11 which is english

i feel that we need to rebuild the team from scratch cos the team looks unsettled/old

I think that our opponents are used to the way we play and can use it to their advantage

sell

- cole, cygan, campbell, lauren, ljungberg, pires, almun... etc.


new team line up

henry---owen

riise----viera-----gilberto----swp


evra---chivu-----senderos---oddo

lehmann/frey

i feel that we need to rebuild the team from scratch cos the team looks unsettled/old

I think that our opponents are used to the way we play and can use it to their advantage

sell

- cole, cygan, campbell, lauren, ljungberg, pires, almun... etc.


new team line up

henry---owen

riise----viera-----gilberto----swp


evra---chivu-----senderos---oddo

lehmann/frey

lol i think someone needs to step into reality.

We have Clichy but he is not ready to pay 40+ games i mean what if he does last the season, we get caught out with no decent replacement a left back, if coles goes which is looking more than likely we need to sign a Experienced replacement so we can shape Clichy into place, he has a future here but he is not ready to be our no.1 Left Back

the team looks old? you have enough young players to make a U-12 team, sheesh.

My dear god. Have ye got a little problem in your head!?

Riise, Chivu, Owen, Evra, SWP....

Why are we selling Campbell and Freddie again? Campbell being our best defender and all.. Ljungberg being a quality player...

Shesh this isn't FM, firstly we'd not being able to afford all those players. Secodnly we don't need all those players.

i feel that we need to rebuild the team from scratch cos the team looks unsettled/old

I think that our opponents are used to the way we play and can use it to their advantage

sell

- cole, cygan, campbell, lauren, ljungberg, pires, almun... etc.


new team line up

henry---owen

riise----viera-----gilberto----swp


evra---chivu-----senderos---oddo

lehmann/frey

You play too much FM.

Riise? You must be f*cking joking.

relax I put my "team" up there and i dont expect everyone to agree with me

but its just my opinion


and i do play a lot of FM not that i really matters

Senderos is crap on the right

And not that its the most flawed part, but Oddo has all but signed for Milan

Still, taking issue with that is like accosting the Nazi's for bad manners

Anyway, to salvage something constructive from this post, do you gooners believe that Pires is actually going to Inter as the dodgy rumor goes? Isnt he on the verge of a contract war? Also, is JA Reyes now set to stay with the Arse? I guess with Joaquin and Robinho potentially both coming into Madrid, and Owen staying, that possibility has vanished

Should Arsenal get rid of Cole not only is he the only brought up youngster who has broke into the first team but a great defender altought i am angry at what he betrayed arsenal in the tapping up thing

Van Persie is doing well at international level:

In the qualifying sections in Europe, Holland remain top of World Cup Group One after beating Finland 4-0 away.

Arsenal striker Robin van Persie came on to help create goals for Dirk Kujit and Philip Cocu and score one himself after Ruud van Nistelrooy had given the Dutch a first-half lead. [BBC]

It seems that the red card at Southampton has changed his form and attitude, Van Basten has noticed as well:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=282438&CPID=219&CLID=3&lid=&title=Van+Basten+thanks+Gunners&channel=Premiership

Finally some good news in a not so good summer so far (at least).... (6)

looks like we're going to sign Hleb, anyone know a brief round-up of the way he plays or watever. All i know is he's got potential and he's good in CM ;)

He's more of a CAM if you ask me. He's awesome. Not much else to say really, except that Juve are also in the hunt for him I hear. He'd be a great signing, but where would he fit?

Arsenal sign Imps starlet Hobbs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4076548.stm


Arsenal sign Imps starlet Hobbs
Arsenal have signed teenager Jack Hobbs from League Two side Lincoln City, according to reports.

The Gunners have beaten Manchester United in the race to land the 16-year-old central defender.

Highbury chief executive David Dein is set to authorise a six-figure payment for the Imps star.

Hobbs joined Lincoln in 1997 as a nine-year-old in their academy and has progressed through the youth ranks to earn a first team squad spot this year.


:fool:

Arsene knows. I don't think he'll sign someone who would slow down the progress of young Cesc, after how he showed us what he can do last season.

very true.....hope wenger gets im some well established player now though

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=international_feed/05/06/11/SOCCER_Svk-Contofalsky.html&TEAMHD=soccer

Arsenal are considering a swoop for Slovakia national team goalkeeper Kamil Contofalsky who is currently on the books of Zenit St Petersburg.

The www.profutbal.sk website reports that Zenit coach Vlastimil Petrzela has confirmed the interest of the London club in the 27-year-old shotstopper.

Petrzela, who is Czech, said: "Everybody knows about Contofalsky and Arsenal."

Another Zenit player from Slovakia, defender Martin Skrtel, has been linked with European champions Liverpool by the same website.

Skrtel is under contract with the Russian club until 2007.

I hear Newcastle are about to bid for SWP. We HAVE to get SWP. He'll be a great player for us. He could be the thing we need in Europe. Put in a 15 mill bid, get the son of God here now!

I never knew Dennis' son was worth 15M.

If he is gonna go for 15 million then we should bid for him, anymore though and forget about it

If he is gonna go for 15 million then we should bid for him, anymore though and forget about it

I'd personally move heaven and earth to get SWP here. He's a revalation. He'd be the bright spark for us. He's like Marc Overmars but English. He can defend pretty well for a winger, he can dribble, shoot, pass. Everything. And Europe could be the making of him.

Talks over Pires deal break down


Pires' career statistics
Contract talks between Arsenal and Robert Pires have broken down, with the Gunners reportedly considering selling the France midfielder this summer.

The club have offered a one-year extension to the 32-year-old, whose deal expires at the end of next season.

But he wants two more years and Arsenal may opt to cash in now rather than risk losing him for nothing in 2006.

Valencia and Lyon are among the clubs interested in him and Pires has spoken about finishing his career in Spain.

He joined Arsenal from Marseille for £6m in July 2000 and has scored 73 goals in 232 games for the club.

The Frenchman finished last season in good form, ending up with 17 goals.

But boss Arsene Wenger does not like to offer long contracts to players over 30 and said in April: "He will be 33 next year and we will go from year to year."

After the emergence of youngsters like Cesc Fabregas and Mathieu Flamini, and with the Gunners looking to bring VfB Stuttgart's Aleksandr Hleb to Highbury, Pires could now be set to leave.[/QUOTE]

hmmm i wonder what will happen

Oh f*cking hell. It's gonna be another one of those summers :(

Oh f*cking hell. It's gonna be another one of those summers :(
Yeah, but its not as if a contract battle over Pires is going to be that distracting to the team, I'd think. Viera the bald cvnty was a lynchpin that needed immediate replacing if he left for Madrid last summer, but an aging Pires, if Arsenal can get the funds your supposed to have, can be replaced, id think, without too much interruption in the side. As such, id say Arsenal has the upper hand in dealing with him. Wasnt Inter heavily intrested in him at one point, or so the rumor went?

And by the way, whats the deal with Ljunberg's new contract? I remember his statement over the team needing to be competitive. Losing him, Pires, and Cole in one summer, well, that could be damn tough to get over, no matter how much money you get to spend

Honestly i don't think there is anything to worry about, concerning Pires and Ljungberg, because they both have at least a year left on their current contracts so they should get sorted out by the start of the season.

However in a year or two, we will have major rebuilding to do with the majority of our left side leaving through retirement (Pires) or chasing £5k (Cole). So i believe that AW has to make a decision now to sell Cole now and let Clichy get comfortable at LB or let Cole play and hope that he decides to stay.

I just hope that by the time we move in to the new stadium we have a settled squad.

Well, I was talking more about the van Persie thing. We seem to suck at summertime. Nothing EVER goes our way.

Don't worry, we have Cesc.

Jack Hobbs for the starting spot :rockman:

We are being linked with Baptista..... so are manu and middles........ the more brazilians in our team the better :rockman: :rockman:

I say we snatch him up now

Legend, future captain.

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=124012

Bismillah!

We are being linked with Baptista..... so are manu and middles........ the more brazilians in our team the better :rockman: :rockman:

I say we snatch him up now


If we get him we'll win everything next year. H'es awesome.

Where u been at Yoss.... Your expertise is much needed for this summers transfer moves....

Hey, man. how are yah? Been suspended for a couple months without pay. Just glad to be back here with you all.


I've got a fairly valid suggestion about who we should go after before the transfer period is over.............Heroic Zlatan.



hummina, hummina, hummina!

We should snatch Robinho right out Madrid's hands... that's a brazilian we can put our faith in

Hey, does the club have an official public position on the RvP situation?

what would that position be

Something along the lines of vouching for his character off the pitch and how he'll be exonerated of all charges after the proceedings of this case is done with......something like that.....I don't know, really.

Something along the lines of vouching for his character off the pitch and how he'll be exonerated of all charges after the proceedings of this case is done with......something like that.....I don't know, really.


you mean in a supportive and sympathetic way just like they did (not) for Jermaine Pennent ?....how can you vouch for his character off the field of play?.......he is always in bigger trouble off the pitch than on it.Arsenal bought a pile of trouble with this thug........... :kader: :ewan:

Pennant can't read, according to David Sullivan.

Arsenal tried to teach him, but he didn't want any of it.

Just heard that the Beast is almost official, somewhere in the area of 10m GBP.

you mean in a supportive and sympathetic way just like they did (not) for Jermaine Pennent ?....how can you vouch for his character off the field of play?.......he is always in bigger trouble off the pitch than on it.Arsenal bought a pile of trouble with this thug........... :kader: :ewan:


hmmm....I'm curious, when else has he crossed paths with the law aside from the time he crashed his BMW and fled the scene?

hmmm....I'm curious, when else has he crossed paths with the law aside from the time he crashed his BMW and fled the scene?

:ewan: :jap:

you mean in a supportive and sympathetic way just like they did (not) for Jermaine Pennent ?....how can you vouch for his character off the field of play?.......he is always in bigger trouble off the pitch than on it.Arsenal bought a pile of trouble with this thug........... :kader: :ewan:Terry is a drunk.

No he isn't.

Yes he is.

No he isn't you Ching Chong.

Terry is a drunk.

well said(H) (Y)

Rolf .. look at how upset he is :D

Arsenal linked with Real's Guti

Arsenal are reportedly tracking Real Madrid's Guti but face competition from Juventus and AC Milan.

The 28-year-old midfielder, who is rated at £13m and was previously linked with Liverpool, has expressed interest in joining Arsene Wenger's side.

"After Real Madrid, his only desire if he was be to move to England, would be to play for Arsenal," said his agent Zoran Vekic.

"He likes their style, team spirit and, of course, they have a great coach."

Guti has become an increasingly peripheral figure at the Bernabeu after 10 years with Real and looks set for a summer move abroad.

He was close to joining the Gunners in an £11m deal two years ago but had cold feet at the last minute and instead signed to stay in the Spanish capital.

Liverpool were thought to be leading the chase to sign Guti but boss Rafael Benitez has since changed his priorities, leaving the way open for Arsenal.

However, Wenger is unlikely to meet Real's £13m valuation and will hope to negotiate any potential fee down to £8m.

More Transfer Rumours..

Oh God please no

Guti's quite a good player, but he's an attacker. Reyes, RvP, Henry, Bergkamp AND Guti? That's kinda packed, plus Quincy's coming up.

god...we're going to sign the girlie from spain...i hat that guy...oh well, just hope he does something useful..:rolleyes:

Oh God please no

It's true. He's pants. They should leave all the young signings to Wenger and let me pick the big names (H)

RvP


Jailed

Guti is quality.

Guys, I don't think you guys have seen enough of Guti. He's an amazing passer. I think he'd be a perfect fit to Arsenal's free-flowing football. (Y) His tackling has really improved in the past two years, he can now play CM.

I hope we can get 15 million for him from either Arse. or Juve.

No he isn't you Ching Chong.

WTF is that suppose to mean.

Jailed
Agreed

WTF is that suppose to mean.He's a racist, that's what it means.

Jailed

You got any more on that?

And as for Guti £8m seems a bit much for a 28 yr old who hasn't really played a full season or fixed position for a long time.

IMO if Freddy left then he would be an ideal replacement but you have to question why Real are willing to let him go now after he only re-signed a season or two ago

We should stop pissing about with the Helb deal and offer them £7/8m instead, if we are looking for this type of player.

Anymore news on Julio Baptista?? He would be a great signing and a bargin @ £10m

Well a reliable source tells me-

Dutch papers have just printed an article on the rape accusers boyfriend. He is none other than one of the ajax fans who beat up van persie and his lawyer and done some time in jail for it. The girl in question has now given three conflicting statements to three people dealing with the case.

Good. If they couldn't convict Kluivert on comparable charges with tons more in evidence, then I have little concern about RvP being convicted of anything here.

Let's hope he doesn't go all out nuts here from guilt and start purchasing 4 million dollar rings and tattooing himself up in the process.

Guti used to date a tranny

I really cant see that wenger is interested in signing Puti i mean Guti

He's a racist, that's what it means.
You are a racist also. Why do you call Oliver Kahn, King Kahn?

Because he is blonde and has blue eyes, typical Aryan? Hm?

Hitler.

You are a racist also. Why do you call Oliver Kahn, King Kahn?

Because he is blonde and has blue eyes, typical Aryan? Hm?

Hitler.
:|















:|

I see you are stunned by the truth.

lol

I see you are stunned by the truth.
Yea, sure, whatever you say. :rolleyes:

Trap Set To Let Hleb go (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=286918&CPID=22&CLID=&lid=2&title=Trap+ready+to+let+Hleb+go&channel=football_home)

Hmm hpefully he'll go for a bit less than £13 mill. but I reckon he's good enough for that price...

He's more a talented than a proven player. He's too inconsistant, tends to disappear in big games and plays too selfish.

If he works on that, he'll be ace. However don't expect him to have a sudden impact.

Arsenal-Mania has a rumour that the Hleb deal has been stalled because Arsenal has put in a bid for SWP and waiting to see if Man City accepts.

Is wenger really thinking of gettin Tommasson????? why tommasson i really dont like him much :kader:

Tomasson sucks. I don't care how many tap ins he scores. He sucks. Getting him would be a major mistake.

He was fvcking **** at Newcastle, scored maybe 1 or 2 goals in a season,so i can't see any Premireship club gambling on him. :kader: :kader:

i hope we dont ***n get tomasson hes a pissy a** b**** i don't like him at all, but we should sign baptista, hleb/SWP and a classy RB/CB

August
13 Newcastle (H)
20 Chelsea (A)
23 Fulham (H)
27 Liverpool (A)

September
10 Middlesbrough (A)
17 Everton (H)
24 West Ham (A)

October
1 Birmingham (H)
15 West Brom (A)
22 Man City (H)
29 Tottenham (A)

November
5 Sunderland (H)
19 Wigan (A)
26 Blackburn (H)

December
3 Bolton (A)
10 Newcastle (A)
17 Chelsea (H)
26 Charlton (A)
28 Portsmouth (H)
31 Aston Villa (A)

January
2 Man Utd (H)
14 Middlesbrough (H)
21 Everton (A)
31 West Ham (H)

February
4 Birmingham (A)
11 Bolton (H)
25 Blackburn (A)

March
4 Fulham (A)
11 Liverpool (H)
18 Charlton (H)
25 Portsmouth (A)

April
1 Aston Villa (H)
8 Man Utd (A)
15 West Brom (H)
17 Man City (A)
22 Tottenham (H)
29 Sunderland (A)

May
7 Wigan (H)

that is some ****ed up schedule... you play Chelsea 2 times, before you play Manchester United once. wtf? have the fixtures always been like this?

No, Sven and the FA are to blame for this one.

They wanted to do something for the world cup, so the FA cup final has also been moved to midweek for the first time in 120+ years.

Looks like you lot will have your first man soon:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4103360.stm

Wenger confident on Hleb signing

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is confident Belarus midfielder Alexander Hleb will be at Highbury next season.

"The transfer will be completed in the next few days. I think he can start packing his bags to come to us," Wenger told the Stuttgarter Nachrichten paper.

Wenger has reportedly already held an initial meeting with the 24-year-old after being granted permission from VfB Stuttgart to open transfer talks.

Stuttgart have agreed to sell after Arsenal increased their offer to £6m.

Wenger is a long-time admirer of the talented, two-footed midfielder and has wasted no time in negotiating a quick deal while in Germany commentating on the Confederations Cup for French television.

And he stepped up his interest as soon as new Stuttgart coach Giovanni Trapattoni made it clear Hleb could leave.

"It is fundamentally not a good idea to force a player to stay when they want to leave," Trappattoni told Bild magazine. "The team is far more important than one individual."

Hleb has scored 13 goals in 137 Bundesliga appearances for Stuttgart, and has won 10 senior caps for Belarus.

He has three years left on his deal with the Bundesliga club and recently his agent insisted both Arsenal and Chelsea were interested in signing the Belarus midfielder.

"Chelsea are also genuinely interested, however Arsenal have priority as Arsene Wenger has been dreaming of having Alexander in his team for two years now," said his representative Nikolai Spilevski.

I know its been talked about here at length, but Wenger coming out and saying this is a pretty clear indication that he must be on his way. A great signing, for many reasons, not the least of which is getting another talent loaded youngster who is only 24. Granted, you lot still need that Viera replacement type, but surely this lad will be a hit in the Library. If you hang onto him, Fabregas, and Flammini for a few years, thats gonna be pretty scary.

With Hleb almost def comin I think we can say goodbye to my man Pires :kader: :kader:

Just give P man 2 yrs jesus christ Pires is the man......

Pires still has one year left on his contract, so i can't see Arsenal letting him go for free and i don't think Pires would want to leave before his contract is up. So that leaves him leaving on a Bosman at the end of next season.

Will be sad to see him leave...

http://img172.echo.cx/img172/2521/prdmaxzoom19557860bergkamp4jw.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

That's Godly right there, but $97 (w/o shipping @ Kitbag) is still too much for my liking...

The BBC is reporting this.......SHWING! I hear he's an assist machine....SHWING! And he's fairly young.........SHWING, SHWING, SHWING!!!

Not the destination i would have wanted Hleb to chose, but it's always better than Chelsea. Although both are not my favourite. If he does decide to come to Arsenal, then i will be glad that he will be able to improve his career in a much bigger and better club that is among the elite. And that can only benefit Belarus as well :rockman: .

[ That's Godly right there, but $97 (w/o shipping @ Kitbag) is still too much for my liking...



Turtle Tits!!!! I'm aroused......must get me one with a Zlatan name customly stitched on the back

BTW if anybody is wondering what did Wenger see in Hleb, then here are some stats:
Was involved (scored or assisted) 31 percent of all the goals in the Bundesliga last season
Created more than twice as many assists as the same best assist player Heldt.
Heldt made 6 assists, Hleb made 14. That's not counting how many times he stole the ball to create a build up for the eventual goal.

Swwwweeeeetttt...............how many of 'em came by ways of a cross?

BTW if anybody is wondering what did Wenger see in Hleb, then here are some stats:
Was involved (scored or assisted) 31 percent of all the goals in the Bundesliga last season
Created more than twice as many assists as the same best assist player Heldt.
Heldt made 6 assists, Hleb made 14. That's not counting how many times he stole the ball to create a build up for the eventual goal.
Nice how you found a way to describe him as the next coming. You should've mentioned that he was one of the main reasons for Stuttgart's annual choking at the end of the season.

Nice how you found a way to describe him as the next coming. You should've mentioned that he was one of the main reasons for Stuttgart's annual choking at the end of the season.


****! Brother Vince, can you please give us an indepth breakdown of 'em from top to bottom, please? An analysis of his positives/negatives and his best position?

Yoss (H)

Swwwweeeeetttt...............how many of 'em came by ways of a cross?

Doesn't matter, only play we have who can head is Cygan.

Hleb is a central playmaker, not a winger. He makes a lot of through balls instead of crosses.


Vince: It's a team's sport. The team relied on him for the whole season. If a team can't play without one guy, then they shouldn't be playing in the top league. He is only 24 and that's very young for a good player, who still has at least 4 years before his peak. Even Pires or Henry can't stay on top form for 9 month straight.

Very true Max (Y)

any guesses about guti though ?? if guti comes then pires goes...that's what i feel.

We needed this tho, we've been losing midfielders like crazy lately. Need a man who can hit a though ball too.

Fvck, Chelsea have made an offer of £18m for SWP, and with Man City in £80m debt i don't think they will refuse. I hope Wenger does something to intervene maybe a first option or something, because i can't see him bidding £18m.

Or we could do what Man U did for Rooney and declare our interest in the player (because i think SWP would rather play for us than Chelsea) then come in with an offer (full of performance clauses) equivilant to or slighty lower than, Chelsea's straight £18m.

Please let him not go to them its clear he is mean't to be an Arsenal player.

We need SWP.

Guti isn't really best out wide. He's better when he's played as a CAM or CF.

We need SWP.


and we are gonna get him Rob.......... :ewan:

Doesn't matter, only play we have who can head is Cygan.


LOLzer.....point well taken, sis.

Aliadiere signed a new deal today, good move by the club. With the fate of RvP still unknown we had to keep him.

RvP is as sweet as a lamb, man. I guarantee you all that he won't be convicted of anything. Rough anal probing a la Kobe? Maybe.....but it most certainly couldn've been rape.

true VP should be released soon....abt SWP i doubt he'll go the chelsea :jap:

Aliadiere signed a new deal today, good move by the club. With the fate of RvP still unknown we had to keep him.


and aint that funny that thats the day i come back (6) anyways, yes we do need him. i do think that he is a solid backup...


van persie - wat a f.uking star, shame he has to be stupid enough to do what he did

Wenger eyes two world-class stars


Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has vowed to bring in two world-class players to win back the Premiership title.

The Gunners finished 12 points behind Chelsea last season but Wenger, who has been linked with Brazilian star Robinho, says that they will be back.

"I will win back our place at the top of that table by putting into action plans I have been working on," he told the News of the World newspaper.

"It includes recruiting two world-class players to make us stronger."

Wenger is expected to bring in Stuttgart midfielder Aleksander Hleb, while reports suggest that the Gunners boss has put in a £14m bid for Santos striker Robinho.


"Thierry isn't going anywhere. The same goes for Patrick. He will also stay with us for next season - as will Robert"

Arsene Wenger

The 21-year-old has been courted by Spanish giants Real Madrid but the player's agent Juan Figer claims that Arsenal have now jumped to the front of the queue for the talented forward.

Wenger suggested that the players coming in may be dependent on any exits from Highbury.

But the Frenchman insisted that Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and Robert Pires are going nowhere.

"There have been rumours about Thierry Henry and Barcelona," he added. "Of course I know about them but they're all just talk.

"They are rumours and they are unfounded and he isn't going anywhere.

"The same goes for Patrick. He will also stay with us for next season - as will Robert."

Robert staying :D

2 world class players coming :)

anyword on rvp?

He is a rapist.

Arsenal make £14m Robinho bid
Soccernet

Arsenal have made a £14million bid for Brazilian wonderboy Robinho after officials flew to Nuremburg last night to make a final check on the striker during the Confederations Cup semi-final against Germany.


The 21-year-old Santos star has been repeatedly linked with a move to Real Madrid but the Gunners have now have outbid the La Liga giants, who believed they could land the striker for approximately £10million, according to the Spanish media.


Arsenal chief scout Steve Rowley has made a number of trips to scout South American youngsters and Robinho, who has been likened to Ronaldinho because of his dazzling dribbling skills, is top of the list.

The Sao Paulo born player was heavily linked with a move away from Brazil following the kidnapping of his mother, Marina Lima de Souza, from a family barbecue in December last year. She was later returned after being held for ransom.

Real were the club most frequently mentioned with a swoop for the unsettled youngster and the Gunners can expect a transfer battle.

The other World class star would seem to be Robinho if Wenger has his way and Soccernet have their facts straight. Ive gotta say i'd rather him in the EPL than in Spain so i can see him play more often because ive really enjoyed watching him in the Confeds Cup. And Him and Henry would be just unstoppable together i think....

I fancy Robinho yah and that he is still young but how would we please him if were loaded with strikers like Henry, Bergkemp, Reyes, and Quincy?

i was about to say the same thing... how can we accomodate hleb and robinho??

fair enough to say that i guess robinho would start ahead with henry, but then youd have to have either reyes/pires, van persie, and bergkamp on the bench. not to mention quincy, lupoli and aliadiere in reserves. for hleb to start, youd be taking away a starting spot for ljungberg/pires/gilberto, and then youd be putting fabregas into the reserves, also flamini could go back there.

Finally the club shows some balls.

I think Hleb will take Edu's place (and his 17)

so what number will robinho take then? i think if they both come robinho would take 17... with hleb taking 21?

so what number will robinho take then? i think if they both come robinho would take 17... with hleb taking 21?

Hleb could get 5 too. It's not too out of place for a midfielder.

I can't see Robinho coming to Arsenal.

Let us be happy :(

so what number will robinho take then? i think if they both come robinho would take 17... with hleb taking 21?

I think that would be about right.

According to the Arsenal website, Bentley needs a number aswell, if he stays that is.

he has 37, then 10.

Yeah Bentley will be our next 10.

Robinho doesn't care what number he has... give him an American football number like 80 or 99 and he won't have any problems :)

Bentley might be used as a bargaining tool to get SWP.

if the club does snatch Robinho, that would be amazing.. the squad would be so stacked

if we get robinho and hleb i see us loaning out quincy.................

Reggina have been mentioned in connection to Quincy.

We still need a world class goalkeeper... :boohoo: