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Manchester United Squad 2005/06

Manager
Sir Alex Ferguson

Squad
1 - Tim Howard
2 - Gary Neville (c)
3 - Patrice Evra
4 - Gabriel Iván Heinze
5 - Rio Ferdinand
6 - Wes Brown
7 - Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro (Cristiano Ronaldo)
8 - Wayne Rooney
9 - Louis Saha
10 - Ruud van Nistelrooy
11 - Ryan Giggs
12 -
13 - Park Ji-Sung
14 - Alan Smith
15 - Nemanja Vidic
16 -
17 - Liam Miller
18 - Paul Scholes
19 - Edwin van der Sar
20 - Ole Gunnar Solskjær
21 -
22 - John O'Shea
23 - Kieran Richardson
24 - Darren Fletcher
25 - Quinton Fortune
26 - Phillip Bardsley
27 - Mikaël Silvestre
28 - Gerard Piqué Bernabéu (Piqué)
29 -
30 - Luke Steele
31 -
32 -
33 -
34 - Paul McShane
35 -
36 -
37 - Kenny Cooper
38 -
39 -
40 - Sylvan Ebanks-Blake
41 - Floribert N'Galula
42 - Giuseppe Rossi
44 - Adam Eckersley
45 - David Fox
46 - Lee Martin
47 - Jonny Evans
48 - Thomas Lee
49 - Ritchie Jones
50 - Darren Gibson

Manchester United Club Honours

League Championship 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003

FA Cup 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004

Football League Cup 1992, 2006

European Cup 1968, 1999

European Cup Winners' Cup 1991

European Super Cup 1991

Intercontinental Cup 1999

FA Community Shield(formally the FA Charity Shield) 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003 (*as joint holders)

Fixtures 2005/2006

July
16 5-1 Clyde, Broadwood Stadium (F)
19 6-0 Peterborough, London Road (F)
23 2-0 Hong Kong First XI, Hong Kong National Stadium (F)
26 3-0 Beijing Xiandai, Workers' Stadium (F)
28 1-2 Kashima Antlers, National Stadium (F)
30 2-0 Urawa Red Diamonds, Saitama Stadium (F)

August
02 3-1 Wrexham, Racecourse Ground (F)
03 6-1 Royal Antwerp, Steeltereinen (F)
09 3-0 Debrecen, Old Trafford (CL)
13 2-0 Everton, Goodison Park (BP)
20 1-0 Aston Villa, Old Trafford (BP)
24 3-0 Debrecen, Stadium of Puskas Ferenc (CL)
28 2-0 Newcastle, St. James' Park (BP)

September
10 1-1 Man City, Old Trafford (BP)
14 0-0 Villarreal, El Madrigal (CL)
18 0-0 Liverpool, Anfield (BP)
24 1-2 Blackburn, Old Trafford (BP)
27 2-1 Benfica, Old Trafford (CL)

October
01 3-2 Fulham, Craven Cottage (BP)
15 3-1 Sunderland, Stadium of Light (BP)
18 0-0 Lille, Old Trafford (CL)
22 1-1 Tottenham, Old Trafford (BP)
26 4-1 Barnet, Old Trafford (CC)
29 1-4 Middlesbrough, The Riverside (BP)

November
02 0-1 Lille, Stade de France (CL)
06 1-0 Chelsea, Old Trafford (BP)
19 3-1 Charlton, The Valley (BP)
22 0-0 Villarreal, Old Trafford (CL)
27 2-1 West Ham, Upton Park (BP)
30 3-1 West Brom, Old Trafford (CC)

December
03 3-0 Portsmouth, Old Trafford (BP)
07 1-2 Benfica, Estadio Da Luz (CL)
11 1-1 Everton, Old Trafford (BP)
14 4-0 Wigan, Old Trafford (BP)
17 2-0 Aston Villa, Villa Park (BP)
20 3-1 Birmingham, St. Andrews (CC)
26 3-0 West Brom, Old Trafford (BP)
28 2-2 Birmingham, St Andrews (BP)
31 4-1 Bolton, Old Trafford (BP)

January
03 0-0 Arsenal, Highbury (BP)
08 0-0 Burton Albion, Pirelli Stadium (FA)
11 1-1 Blackburn, Ewood Park (CC)
14 3-1 Man City, City of Manchester Stadium (BP)
17 5-0 Burton Albion, Old Trafford (FA)
21 1-0 Liverpool, Old Trafford (BP)
25 2-1 Blackburn, Old Trafford (CC)
29 3-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers, Molineux (FA)

February
01 3-4 Blackburn, Ewood Park (BP)
04 4-2 Fulham, Old Trafford (BP)
11 3-1 Portsmouth, Fratton Park (BP)
18 0-1 Liverpool, Anfield (FA)
26 4-0 Wigan, Millenium Stadium (CC)

March
04 2-1 Wigan, JJB Stadium (BP)
11 2-0 Newcastle, Old Trafford (BP)
18 2-1 West Brom, The Hawthorns (BP)
26 3-0 Birmingham, Old Trafford (BP)
29 1-0 West Ham, Old Trafford (BP)

April
01 v Bolton, Reebok Stadium (BP)
09 v Arsenal, Old Trafford (BP)
14 v Sunderland, Old Trafford (BP)
17 v Tottenham, White Hart Lane (BP)
22 v Middlesbrough, Old Trafford (BP)
29 v Chelsea, Stamford Bridge (BP)

May
07 v Charlton, Old Trafford (BP)

Fixtures are subject to change

Legend
F - Friendly
BP - Barclays Premiership
CC - Carling Cup
FA - FA Cup
CL - UEFA Champions League
UC - UEFA Cup

FC United Of Manchester
A club that was created by anti-Glazer Manchester United supporters to bring others like them together. Ben (shokz) with his definition:

The formation of FCUM was not only just about the takeover, overpriced football, overpaid footballers, sky-jacking fixtures, but it was also about keeping the disenchanted Manchester United supporters together, why should they split up and follow the likes of Altrincham, Sale, Droylsden or Bury when there is nothing in common with these clubs, nothing UNITED about them. FCUM keeps the United spirit going for the supporters and those who do go too Gigg Lane have loads in common, the atmospheare is amazing at every match and the supporters ultimately get a say in how the club is run - how many fans/clubs can say that?

http://www.fcunited.co.uk/
http://gcwebservices.co.uk/fcuforum/index.php - Forum

Give the site a try. Buy their jerseys instead of MUFC's. The money goes to the club and not to American bastards.

special thanks to shokz

Didn't Roy Carroll sign a new contract?

The best goalkeeper of the world had been released by United :rockman:

So what keeper are we gonna sign? Kameni? Casillas?

I doubt Casillas will join us but would be nice innit. I rate Kameni from what i have seen, he was especially awesome against Barcelona and has great flexibility.

so how's the first post? special thanks to shokz cause it was his post originally,

Didn't Roy Carroll sign a new contract?

He didn't, thanks **** we have released him. :)

so how's the first post? special thanks to shokz cause it was his post originally,


Aye not bad mate ;). Hopefully soon we can add Jon Obi Mikel as number 21 to the squad list when he sorts out his whiney bitch ass out boyakasha :boyaka:

why did UNited release all the young players?

They probably werent up to scratch for Fergies liking, then again we have a lot of players the same who should also leave. Im suprised at Nardiello and Tierney, i thought they had a slight chance of getting into the first team.

with so many news about glazer n united...u think he would rename united to MANCHESTER UNITED SOCCER CLUB?? :nape:

Damn it, the more i hear i about the glazer the more i hate the wazzock! :f***:

I dont wanna have to change my name to MUSC_DADDY!

I hope he doesnt changed anything and is one of those silent partner kind of people who say nothing and just watch the money roll in. If things stayed the same (ie money to spend, keep players, fergie, stadium name, etc) i would be more satsfied than having to put up with yank ****e like "nike arena" etc.

I'm still completely against him at "our" club but it looks like we r gonna av to lump it, so if things stay relatively the same and we have money to spend then i will keep my gob shut.

Maybe this thread opened a bit early? Start of season, or end of transfer market should have been start? O well, Kameni 4 mil release clause is all im saying, dumb if we don't get him.

is it true carroll being release from club?

Keeper Carroll Released By Reds

Roy Carroll has been given a free transfer by Manchester United. The goalkeeper's four-year stint at Old Trafford will cease at the end of next month.

Media reports had suggested the Northern Ireland goalkeeper would sign a new contract with the Reds this week, but today he is confirmed as one of eight players who are being released by United. Another is fellow shot-stopper Ricardo.

Carroll signed for United in July 2001 from Wigan Athletic, initially as second choice behind Fabien Barthez.

Tim Howard was drafted in two summers ago and immediately laid claim to the number one spot at Old Trafford. However, Carroll and the American have both taken turns as Ferguson's first choice during 2004/05.

The decision to let Carroll and Ricardo go leaves Howard as United's only senior goalkeeper, and means Sir Alex is likely to add to his squad in the goalkeeping department over the summer.

Six young professionals - Ramon Calliste, Ben Collett, Daniel Nardiello, David Poole, Lee Lawrence and Paul Tierney - have also been released.

Report by Ben Hibbs.
According to http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=179606&itype=466&icategoryid=120
Yes, that mofo had been released YIPPIE :rockman:

Yea Carroll was pathetic in the FA cup final. Looked like he didn't care

so it's also confirm that we're looking for a new keeper next season

Nice opening post Fernandez!
as for Obi Mikel,i dont want the lad to OT!
If he just want to play for CFC,i dont see him do any good for us!

(H)

Great!I'm glad we got rid of 2 whiny bastards.

That's a good start for next season. It is a sign that SAF has come back to his senses

McManchester United

"I'm lovin' it"

http://64.34.164.206/ri_forum/showthread.php?t=36358&page=1&pp=15 hahah :D

McManchester United

"I'm lovin' it"


thanks for making me hungry bobby :p



back to topic I think Man Utd and SAF should give Howard one more chance at a full season at Man UTD and get a nice backup Keeper.

McManchester United

"I'm lovin' it"


Bah bah bah bah baaaaaaah.

Aint Mikel number 21? Thats what shirt he was holding up at the press conference anyway. :jap:

Goos we got rid of carroll but i don't know why ricardo?
did we play with his future.
i mean he was HARDLy given any chance.
he seems to be a good keeper.
one chance withy cameos next season wouldn't have hurt anyone.

who next then?
steele from our academy or a big signing.
i think we should go for cudicini or niemi
i've also thought of anderson(charlton) the guy made great saves in 2 consecutive games

Haha Ricardo is garbage, I remember when he played against Leverkusen 2 seasons ago, the man gave away 2 penalties and blundered countlessly. He's jus as sh1t as Carrol.

Haha Ricardo is garbage, I remember when he played against Leverkusen 2 seasons ago, the man gave away 2 penalties and blundered countlessly. He's jus as sh1t as Carrol.
I got to agree 100% Ricardo is not good enough for the top divisions!
(H)

Seems like we'll never find a keeper like Schmeichel ever again :(

Well I hope that we buy lots of players in the off season or i will be pissed off.

If we get a keeper, it should be a really really good one. Not someone like Niemi, Kiely, Kiraly who can have really awesome days but really **** off days. We need a really really really good one.

I think that having Heinze, Silvestre, Rio, Gary as our back four is good enough with a bench with Brown, Phil, and O'Shea. Maybe we could get one more defender but i think the purchase of Heinze was a really good one, and he is now one of my favourite players.

We should maybe look at buying a replacement for Roy Keane. There is that Mascherano guy from Argentina but those players usually go to Spain or Italy so it might not be reachable. I really wanted Robben and was really pissed off at how United treated him when we were so close to signing him. I was in Holland at the time and in the paper they had announced Robben as United's third signing from PSV (after Stam and Ruud) but to see him go to Chelsea made me really angry. I dont know how van der Vaart would go in England but i think we should have had a look at van Bommel, but he has gone to Barca now :( .

We do not need anymore forwards. Ruud, Rooney, Smith, Saha are good enough, and then there is Bellion who is good half the time and possibly Solskjaer when he comes back. I dont think we need another forward. Yes they had a **** season in terms of goals but they can only improve.

So simply buy a solid world class keeper and a world class midfielder. Dont see the point in buying average players for prices under 5m pounds. No point. That is what crappy midtable clubs should do.

Seems like we'll never find a keeper like Schmeichel ever again :(

If we get a keeper that is half as good as Schmeichel i would be pleased!
(H)

man...why did we buy this mikel boy?!?! its like hes regretting his move to manutd...can we send him back cuz there's no use playing for a club which u whole heartedly dislike

United eye Frey as duo go

United Eye Frey As Duo Go! (http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,1778_492149,00.html)

and now Gianluigi Buffon too :ewan:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005240640,00.html

Probably just made up stuff to sell newspapers though. Would be nice but we should get someone younger. And language troubles might be an issue

Buffon is way out of your price range

and now Gianluigi Buffon too :ewan:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2005240640,00.html

Probably just made up stuff to sell newspapers though. Would be nice but we should get someone younger. And language troubles might be an issue


how old do you think Buffon is ? He is only 27 FYI.

anyway... i wanted to point that out thats all. Doesn't make a difference... United won't get him anyway... or any other club for that matter. He is untouchable at Juve.

And we don't have 35m to spend either, that absurb, well its the sun. :sb9:

NIGERIAN PLAYER ASSOCIATION GIVE LYN AND UNITED THEIR SUPPORT

The nigerian player association have decided to give their support to FC Lyn Oslo and Manchester United in the battle between Chelsea, John Obi Mikel and the two mentioned clubs.

President of the association (NANF), Harrison Jalla, have sent FC Lyn a mail where he informs that:

Thank you for the information. I have already forwarded it to the Nigerian Football Association, and the board have taken a positive decision in favour of Lyn / Manchester United and conveyed the same to FIFA for Mikel Obi to honour his subsisting contract with Lyn / Manchester United.

NANF have read the Mikel-documents and have concluded to give the two clubs their support. It's on the other side hard to know if the read documents are contracts and official documents or if it also includes a subjective letter by the norwegian club.

http://www.spawrt.com/News/News.asp?Nr=891

The International Soccer Sevens starts today. There are forty-something games today and there will be 28 games tomorrow. Manchester United and last year champion Aston Villa are in this tournament, together with Celtics, PSV, Glascow Rangers, some local teams, some Asian teams and some classic teams like Middlesbrough with Gary Pallister playing.

I m going to go to the matches now and one of the 3 United games will start in 3 hours from now. United side have Eagles, Heaton and other youth players. Glory Glory Man United!!!

I will be back with some news tonight. ;)

Seems like we'll never find a keeper like Schmeichel ever again :(
Never. Its very hard to find a keeper even close to Peter.

Who will Fergie buy then? :rolleyes: Frey? Hildebrand? Casillas?

ALEX FERGUSON is poised to launch a £35million bid for Gianluigi Buffon.

no way, we have no that kind of transfer budget

Hildebrand signed a contract extension 'til 2007 or something.

ferguson must buy frey,kameni or robinson these guys are the best in the world

no way, we have no that kind of transfer budget


He has £100mill to spend over the next 5 years.

i'd go for Kameni personally but Casillas would be perfect if Fergie wants to pay that kinda money.

He has £100mill to spend over the next 5 years.

Now that you've said it like that, I dont see an issue spending a large lump of that money to get great quality players NOW, looking at some of the youngsters coming up from the youth system we wont need to spend that much on transfers in the coming years anyway.

come to think of it i reckon a £10mill pound bid for Paul Robinson from Spurs would be great.

or even Shay Given (best keeper in premiership imo) for £6mill would be fantastic!

come to think of it i reckon a £10mill pound bid for Paul Robinson from Spurs would be great.

or even Shay Given (best keeper in premiership imo) for £6mill would be fantastic!
Hells yeah, I'd take either one of them any day. They both speak english and can fit into our team easier than a foreign goalkeeper.

I'd also go after Joaquin, Vicente, Essien and Chivu. :ewan:

Joaquin = about £30mill, Vicente the same. We haven't got that amount of money to spend without losing money following years.

Essien would be a good buy but i'm not too sure on price.

We don't need another defender in my opinion.

We need to purge ourselves of stupidity in defense and we did so with Carroll, now we need to sell Silvestre, he's too absent minded at times. We can sell players like Kleberson, MIller, P. Neville, Fortune etc to generate more funds since these players have proved that they cant successfully replace our main first team.

Silvestre is too good to get rid of, him and Rio have formed a fantastic partnership.

i think Kleberson has definately got the potential to be great, i'd give him one more season with more games, or even on loan for a season.

Miller and Fortune should go in my opinion.

But Phil Neville is a great utility player for United and it is always important to have players like him so commited to the club.

A loan move for Kleberson would be a good idea. We could see if he is the quality we presume him to me, by loaning him to a foreign club and seeing how he does, and the better he does, the higher the future transfer fee may be.

Silvestre is too good to get rid of, him and Rio have formed a fantastic partnership.
What? Are you serious? Silvestre is an accident waiting to happen, partnership with Rio my behind. What is he? Gay? As soon as Rio is out, it's like he becomes stupid, no wait, becomes even more stupid. He constantly gifts the opposition oportunities, loses out on aerial challenges and overall looks lost without Rio commanding him. True great defenders dont need to rely on other defenders to cover their behind all the time, he needs to go.

i think Kleberson has definately got the potential to be great, i'd give him one more season with more games, or even on loan for a season.
Kleberson does great when games are slow paced and he can pass the ball all over the park, but when the tempo rises and things turn into an old fashioned English slug out, he's lost. He's too sluggish, can't tackle well and disappears from matchers. He'd be better suited to the Spanish game.

But Phil Neville is a great utility player for United and it is always important to have players like him so commited to the club.
You can be as commited and play in as many positions you want, but it has been proven that when he and the rest of the 'backups' came in, they struggle to beat even the bottom teams. If we won the games against those 'little' teams this season we would've matched, maybe even pipped Chelsea to the title. Besides we have great other midfield prospects in David Jones and Fletcher.

well that's my opinion. which is obviously right :p

I'd also go after Joaquin, Vicente, Essien and Chivu. :ewan:

This isn't FM you know

This isn't FM you know

i have to agree with that. This guy's whole view seems to be very FM stylee.

No shizzy this isn't FM. But you can't say that my points aren't valid. Everything I've said is true, our backups with the exception of Fletcher and Saha/Smith are mediocre at best and must leave. Have we not learned anything from the past 2 seasons? Our old guard can't play superb for the whole year anymore, therefore there must be willing, talented backups who could step in and cover us. We dont have that at the moment so it must be rectified. It's easy to say "ahhhh this aint FM" but I have valid points to back up my claims unlike most on here.

Joaquin is a longshot I'd admit, but look at Vicente. Excellent distributer of the ball, great talent. Look at Valencia, where are they? I'm sure with the right bid we can get him. It's a proven formula that worked for us before and against arsenal we battered them for 100+mins. Have one livewire on one wing while have a good ball distributer on the other wing. Ronaldo was our livewire on the left while Fletcher, Brown and Rooney rotated delivering balls from the right. We were actually defending in Arsenal's half and caused them hell. We had this in the past with Giggs and Beckham and it worked really well then too.

So I'm positive with someone like Vicente or Wesley Sneijder on the left, distributing quality balls constantly while Ronaldo torments them on the right, we can really unbalance teams.

As for mentioning Chivu, Roma are doing piss poor and they are in debt up to their eyeballs. Chivu is world fricken class, class passer, class set piece taker, great defender. Better than some big headed dumdum Silvestre. We can sure as hell prize him away but everyone is so used to the board being timid when it comes to going after quality, when someone like me even proposes signing him, suddenly my views are based on a game. Go figure. :boohoo:

I'm sure you'd all rather see some more donkeys signed this summer right? Soo we can be looking up at Chelsea again next season.

you are tactically right untouchable but according to present situations , i don't think we'll be able to buy anone more than a goalkeeper

vicente said that he will never leave valencia

you are tactically right untouchable but according to present situations , i don't think we'll be able to buy anone more than a goalkeeper
That would be a damn shame really. The irony is that we have 2 fantastic young reserve talents in David Jones, who coincidently is a central midfielder and Rossi who tore the league up with his deadly finishing. Yet I dont know if they would survive in the first team because both of them are so frail, if they just gain some muscle over the summer, I'm positive they can both have positive impacts on the first team if we can't get some good players over the summer.

I'd list a new keeper as #1 on the list closely followed by a replacement for Keane, but how do you replace someone like Keane?

We don't need to buy anyone except a good goallie (and maybe a DM midfielder with good passing abilities), Kieran is doing well, he has proven it again against the USA, e can replace Giggs more than enough. Besides that Rossi and Eagles will be good in the near future.

We need a DM urgent. The reason Fergie has been playin those dreadful tactics (4-5-1) is because he admits Keane needs to be protected more, as he has lost his pace and he playes more anchor now, operating strictly behind the midfield and in-front of the defence, and not shifting much. We need someone with energy that can run all over the field, like Gattuso. Maybe Fergie should sift through the scottish and Italian leagues, who knows what kind of cheap talent the scouts might find.

Well i've never been a fan of the cockney wideboy Richardson and i think he'll turn out to be a decent fringe player and nothing else, but he deserves to be given a run in the side next season, and it looks like he has an end-product, as shown by his successful spell at WBA and debut for England. A good long shot, good crossing ability, and probably has a better freekick than anyone else at the club. Even if he doesn't turn out good enough to cement a place in the starting eleven he could always provide Giggs with competition, aka a good kick up the arse.

As for the goalkeeper speculation, the story about Buffon, as we already know is bollocks and anyway, who in their right mind leaves the Italian champions? no one, unless they are not good enough for Juventus. And if United did have the money its certainly not coming out of Glazer's pocket, it would probably be a loan which the match going supporters will be forced to pay back with hiked up ticket prices. I'd like Paul Robinson, but its too late now, we could've got him for £1.5m a year ago and it looks like he's going to sign a new deal at Spurs. Shay Given? Newcastle will want more than what is being suggested, though I don't think he's worth as much as £5m anyway.

I'm more worried about the midfield as Keane and Scholes together are no longer good enough unless Fletcher is there, which means a 5 man midfield, and crap football. This club is crying out for a midfield capable of taking back the title and more importantly than that, playing the sort of football which United are famous for - 4-4-2.

I'd love it if Ferguson brought in a player that could replace Keane and give over the armband to Rooney (who has an undoubtable influence on the side). But its not going to happen, Ferguson hasn't got the balls and is too loyal and if nothing is done we can look forward to slipping behind Everton if things carry on the way they are.

According to the good source that is Red Issue, our goalkeeping coach/scout Tony Coton's goalkeeping targets are AS Roma's Italian u21 International Gianluca Curci and FC Shakhtar Donetsk's Czech goalkeeper, Jan Laštuvka.

http://64.34.164.206/ri_forum/showthread.php?p=342437#post342437

Transfers In 2005/06
John Obi Mikel (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=171406&itype=466&icategoryid=120) from FC Lyn Oslo - Undisclosed
Ron-Robert Zieler (http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsID=154229&itype=&iCategoryID=120) from FC Cologne - Undisclosed

JOEL GLAZER IN SECRET CARRINGTON FERGIE MEETING?

Red Issue has received a claim from elements of the Manchester Education Committee that they tracked Joel Glazer on a secret visit to Carrington on Wednesday, where he allegedly met Alex Ferguson and spent two and a half hours at the complex. Glazer, who was supposed to be at the NFL owners’ meeting in Washington DC, is said to have slipped out of the States and arrived at Carrie in a taxi direct from Ringway at about 12.15, having been picked up by an MEC tail who’d been tipped off by their allies in Washington. Joel was supposedly seen entering a meeting room with the Boss, leaving the complex at about 3pm, whereupon he headed straight for the airport. Joel, who was not seen in Washington all day, finally emerged for a picture shoot with Malcolm and Bryan in the US capital at 8.30pm local time, when the AP agency snapped him. Thus the impression was created that Joel, who had attended an NFL dinner on Tuesday night, had never been away. It is assumed Joel was responding to Fergie’s ultimatum that, as he was off on his hols on June 1st, they’d have to get their arses in gear if they wanted to talk turkey before the summer transfer season kicks off. United and David Gill are stating that “our position is no meeting between Gill and Glazer took place” and claim that Gill was at a board meeting in London. Intriguingly, the Daily Star’s veteran United hack Bill Thornton did run a story on Tuesday claiming that a Fergie-Glazer meeting would take place the next day, having been tipped off that Fergie had been called back from a Scottish trip for an ‘important meeting’ at OT. After his story appeared, Glazer’s PR people briefed that it was a load of bollocks and said that any such meeting might be deemed improper because we are still technically in an Offer Period. Ahem: quite. Presumably Fergie and Glazer, if they met, would have discussed transfer budgets and targets – it would therefore be no surprise that 48 hours later United released their list of players who would be let go, which shockingly included Roy Carroll, whose agent was confidently predicting on Monday that Roy would be signing a new deal. There may be some more about all this in a Sunday paper tomorrow and the MEC is expected to release a statement building upon this surveillance operation before Monday’s Apollo meeting.
source - REDISSUE.
http://64.34.164.206/ri_forum/showthread.php?p=342470#post342470

Lastuvka is another FM prodigy. Seriously, he might end up being sh1t, another error prone goalie. Who Manchester should really be going for is Igor Akinfeev. Saw him play in the Uefa cup games, and Russian national, the kid is amazing, and he is young and can only get better.

I suggest Fergie to give Richardson a place in the first team next season
He definately has the quality
He has proven himself in WBA, U21 and the senior squad debut against USA
If Fergie is not doing so, I would be terribly mad

its interesting to see what fergie going to do on richardson. his performance for WBA and england are far more enough to earn his a regular first team place

I really hope SAF would get Frey and not make any stupid signings this summer..and yeah, i really hoped to see Richardson in the team next season.. :rockman:

Our trophyless season could spell trouble with Nike.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=334536&cc=5739

I just heard on the new's that Rio has been in a fight on a nightclub in sweden,where he is on vacation!
could be rubbish,it's only been new's in Sweden and Norway,waiting for the english new's!

http://pub.tv2.no/nettavisen/sport/fotball/article397535.ece

Our trophyless season could spell trouble with Nike.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=334536&cc=5739

bad thing keep coming upon us :(

Did we sell our soul to the devil to win the treble in '99 or something? It's like we're paying for something these past few seasons. Only one bad thing after the next. :nape:

everything has been bad news since Glazer taken over. :nape:

Well even more prssure now since Glazer would need to make money on his investment, being a businessman and all. I am not sure he would tolerate failure. Problem is in football it can be difficult to sometimes pinpoint blame.

Parma is relegated so we have to try to get Sebastian Frey. Rio Ferdinand deserved his beating up though. Seems like he's too greedy and too arrogant for a Manchester United player.

Our trophyless season could spell trouble with Nike.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=334536&cc=5739
As much as I'd like to see it happen I don't think Nike have the balls to cut off all ties with Manchester United. Adidas are already the manufacturer for Real Madrid (€480m/£330m over eight years according to Real Madrid's marketing director) so what are the chances of Adidas coming in for United if the opportunity arose?

Wayne Rooney will sell more shirts than Beckham one day so it would be Nike's loss and some other company's gain if they were to drop United, and I bet Adidas would love to be the manufacturer of both Real Madrid and Manchester United. **** Nike anyway, they make crap shirts.
http://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/photos/mufc-kit88ad.jpg
:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Parma is relegated so we have to try to get Sebastian Frey. Rio Ferdinand deserved his beating up though. Seems like he's too greedy and too arrogant for a Manchester United player.


Well not yet. Parma is in a playoff. If they win then they stay up.

It is suggested there is a schedule in place which states net expenditure on players cannot exceed £26million per annum in the next two seasons, with the limit dropping to £25million in subsequent years to 2014.

The paper reports a cap on the absolute amount available to spend rises from £31million to £34million with an additional £25million to be spent over the nine years.

Full article at http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=soccer/05/05/29/manual_072634.html

We are right fvcked. Almost daily news for United now. Its a slippery slope to failure.

There' s too much pressure on the team to win...and fast. What a last 2 weeks it has been.

As much as I'd like to see it happen I don't think Nike have the balls to cut off all ties with Manchester United. Adidas are already the manufacturer for Real Madrid (€480m/£330m over eight years according to Real Madrid's marketing director) so what are the chances of Adidas coming in for United if the opportunity arose?

Wayne Rooney will sell more shirts than Beckham one day so it would be Nike's loss and some other company's gain if they were to drop United, and I bet Adidas would love to be the manufacturer of both Real Madrid and Manchester United. **** Nike anyway, they make crap shirts.
http://www.prideofmanchester.com/sport/photos/mufc-kit88ad.jpg
:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

The old United Adidas kits were the best!
I really hope Nike chicken out of the deal and we get Adidas as sponsor, they make much cooler kits too!

There' s too much pressure on the team to win...and fast. What a last 2 weeks it has been.

who the f*ck Nike think they are to pressure us, they can go f**k themselves as far as i'm concerned. :rolleyes:

Bring back Umbro or Sharp.

Its that opt out clause......

Well if Nike does pull out... Glazer is going find himself in a giant mess...
However, i rather Glazer make his millions as long as our club stills alive and well~

Nike doesn't have the authority to threathen us. The worst case scenarios for them is that they see us and Wayne Rooney wearing adidas strips and Rooney putting on those F50+s!

Van Nistelrooy wants Man Utd move

Ruud van Nistelrooy wants a move away from Manchester United.
The Sun says the Dutch ace has told manager Sir Alex Ferguson he wants to quit Old Trafford. Van Nistelrooy had a face-to-face meeting with Ferguson at the end of last week.

Van Nistelrooy, 28, has not formally handed in a transfer request but he wants out after a disastrous season.

The centre-forward's agent has been spotted in Spain several times this year, fueling speculation that Real Madrid and Barcelona are keen to land the Holland international.

Nike doesn't have the authority to threathen us. The worst case scenarios for them is that they see us and Wayne Rooney wearing adidas strips and Rooney putting on those F50+s!

Actually the money they have with the club.

They can make you toss their salad.

Van Nistelrooy wants Man Utd move

Ruud van Nistelrooy wants a move away from Manchester United.
The Sun says the Dutch ace has told manager Sir Alex Ferguson he wants to quit Old Trafford. Van Nistelrooy had a face-to-face meeting with Ferguson at the end of last week.

Van Nistelrooy, 28, has not formally handed in a transfer request but he wants out after a disastrous season.

The centre-forward's agent has been spotted in Spain several times this year, fueling speculation that Real Madrid and Barcelona are keen to land the Holland international.

The Sun

Van Nistelrooy wants Man Utd move

Ruud van Nistelrooy wants a move away from Manchester United.
The Sun says the Dutch ace has told manager Sir Alex Ferguson he wants to quit Old Trafford. Van Nistelrooy had a face-to-face meeting with Ferguson at the end of last week.

Van Nistelrooy, 28, has not formally handed in a transfer request but he wants out after a disastrous season.

The centre-forward's agent has been spotted in Spain several times this year, fueling speculation that Real Madrid and Barcelona are keen to land the Holland international.

The Sun = :sb9:

silly season began. :rolleyes:

At the state of the club, the way we are playing and our lack of success (especially in Europe)..
its not impossible that our top players want away...

I hope not, but I cant exactly blame them....

Yeah well i hope Ruud doesn't come to Catalunya, imagine his wages $$$$$$$ !!! :(

Yeah well i hope Ruud doesn't come to Catalunya, imagine his wages $$$$$$$ !!! :(
U can be sure of one thing! Ruud aint going to leave United!
(H)

Ruud told the dutch media that he wants to see out his contract (3 years left) and return to PSV to end his career there. Ruud leaving Man U is nonsense....

apparently, Forlan has scored twice in villareal's last match to ensure them 3rd place and champion's league and has ensured himself the top scorer of la liga with 25 goals.
fantastic.good to see his career revive at spain.

I wonder who's going to overlook this summer's squad revamp. Is it going to be clueless Alex? Seriously, now is the time to get rid of Ferguson. No silverware, "thanks for the good times but good bye".

This summer some things have to be dealt with. First of all ManUtd need a squad revamp; mediocre, constantly underperforming, talentless tossers like Bellion and Silvestre can leave imo. We only need to buy two real good players this summer; a goalkeeper and a midfielder who can do what Roy Keane hasn't been able to do for two seasons: run from box to box and score at least 5+ goals a season.

Secondly, we need tactics. Any tactic or system because we haven't had any. Please lets just ditch that insane 4-5-1 formation and play 4-4-2, morphing into a 4-3-3 when needed. It's time to stop adepting to the opposition's way of playing, we need to play our own system and make them adjust their system.

I would like ManUtd to sign a goalkeeper that actually gets us some points instead of losing us points. He needs to make Howard feel so totally incapable that his Tourette's will become incredibly bad. And then we need a midfielder. Not some 20 year old, but one who will actually make us better. Someone who can run from box to box, score goals, pass, tackle and lead by example.

Get Michael Ballack f.i. He's better than Gattusso because Gattusso never scores and is only capable of playing in the space in front of the defence and behind the attacking midfielders. We don't need that, we need someone more dynamic. Not only does the new midfielder have to defend he also has to pass, support the forwards and score the occasional goal. Ballack can, he's already scored 9 times with his head this season. Something almost noone in our current squad seems to able to. When is the last time we've scored from a corner? Or any other set-piece for that matter?

I wonder who's going to overlook this summer's squad revamp. Is it going to be clueless Alex? Seriously, now is the time to get rid of Ferguson. No silverware, "thanks for the good times but good bye".

This summer some things have to be dealt with. First of all ManUtd need a squad revamp; mediocre, constantly underperforming, talentless tossers like Bellion and Silvestre can leave imo. We only need to buy two real good players this summer; a goalkeeper and a midfielder who can do what Roy Keane hasn't been able to do for two seasons: run from box to box and score at least 5+ goals a season.

Secondly, we need tactics. Any tactic or system because we haven't had any. Please lets just ditch that insane 4-5-1 formation and play 4-4-2, morphing into a 4-3-3 when needed. It's time to stop adepting to the opposition's way of playing, we need to play our own system and make them adjust their system.

I would like ManUtd to sign a goalkeeper that actually gets us some points instead of losing us points. He needs to make Howard feel so totally incapable that his Tourette's will become incredibly bad. And then we need a midfielder. Not some 20 year old, but one who will actually make us better. Someone who can run from box to box, score goals, pass, tackle and lead by example.

Get Michael Ballack f.i. He's better than Gattusso because Gattusso never scores and is only capable of playing in the space in front of the defence and behind the attacking midfielders. We don't need that, we need someone more dynamic. Not only does the new midfielder have to defend he also has to pass, support the forwards and score the occasional goal. Ballack can, he's already scored 9 times with his head this season. Something almost noone in our current squad seems to able to. When is the last time we've scored from a corner? Or any other set-piece for that matter?

You sure are negative about SAF, the team has potential which they showed against Arsenal in the FA cup final, the problem is scoring goals. The players you want aren't just players at their respective clubs, they are star players so getting them isn't possible IMO. I agree with you about getting a keeper en midfielder, I don't care if it is going to be a big name or not. He just have to be good at was he has to do for the team.

The International Soccer Sevens starts today. There are forty-something games today and there will be 28 games tomorrow. Manchester United and last year champion Aston Villa are in this tournament, together with Celtics, PSV, Glascow Rangers, some local teams, some Asian teams and some classic teams like Middlesbrough with Gary Pallister playing.

I m going to go to the matches now and one of the 3 United games will start in 3 hours from now. United side have Eagles, Heaton and other youth players. Glory Glory Man United!!!

I will be back with some news tonight. ;)
sorry, its a bit late. Manchester United got beaten just after the group stage. Last year champion Aston Villa was also beaten by a Hong Kong team Happy Valley. Urawa Red Diamonds from Japan beat PSV in the final and became this year's champion.

In the first day, i saw Brian McClair and can almost get his autograph...however after taking a few photos with some fans he walked away... leaving many fans still yelling "Brian". :(
Manchester United play quite well with Eagles leading the team and young speedy Campbell playing upfront. Bardsley, David Fox, David Jones and Marsh... also play in the team. The young keeper Heaton plays very well and made some brilliant saves. As each half of the game lasts for only 7 minutes, after United scored, they played some really boring football and just want to hold up the ball. Some foreign (mainly from England i guess) fans shout "Play Football!". There also some Celtics and Rangers fans yelling and singing to each other, interesting scene.

sorry, its a bit late. Manchester United got beaten just after the group stage. Last year champion Aston Villa was also beaten by a Hong Kong team Happy Valley. Urawa Red Diamonds from Japan beat PSV in the final and became this year's champion.

In the first day, i saw Brian McClair and can almost get his autograph...however after taking a few photos with some fans he walked away... leaving many fans still yelling "Brian". :(
Manchester United play quite well with Eagles leading the team and young speedy Campbell playing upfront. Bardsley, David Fox, David Jones and Marsh... also play in the team. The young keeper Heaton plays very well and made some brilliant saves. As each half of the game lasts for only 7 minutes, after United scored, they played some really boring football and just want to hold up the ball. Some foreign (mainly from England i guess) fans shout "Play Football!". There also some Celtics and Rangers fans yelling and singing to each other, interesting scene.
One more thing...

While we were waiting for the coaches to sign for us (we couldnt get their autographs though), a foreign kid wearing an Arsenal kit walked by and said something i couldnt hear clearly...but something cursing United. Then i turn around and stare at him and said :f***:.

I only went on the first day of the tournament coz a friend of mine gave us some free tickets only for the first day. I want to buy the ticket for the second day, but they said u have to buy the whole package containing the 2 days tickets so i didnt buy. "Fortunately", United got thrown out of the game and only played 1 game in the second day. :p

I wonder who's going to overlook this summer's squad revamp. Is it going to be clueless Alex? Seriously, now is the time to get rid of Ferguson. No silverware, "thanks for the good times but good bye".

This summer some things have to be dealt with. First of all ManUtd need a squad revamp; mediocre, constantly underperforming, talentless tossers like Bellion and Silvestre can leave imo. We only need to buy two real good players this summer; a goalkeeper and a midfielder who can do what Roy Keane hasn't been able to do for two seasons: run from box to box and score at least 5+ goals a season.

Secondly, we need tactics. Any tactic or system because we haven't had any. Please lets just ditch that insane 4-5-1 formation and play 4-4-2, morphing into a 4-3-3 when needed. It's time to stop adepting to the opposition's way of playing, we need to play our own system and make them adjust their system.

I would like ManUtd to sign a goalkeeper that actually gets us some points instead of losing us points. He needs to make Howard feel so totally incapable that his Tourette's will become incredibly bad. And then we need a midfielder. Not some 20 year old, but one who will actually make us better. Someone who can run from box to box, score goals, pass, tackle and lead by example.

Get Michael Ballack f.i. He's better than Gattusso because Gattusso never scores and is only capable of playing in the space in front of the defence and behind the attacking midfielders. We don't need that, we need someone more dynamic. Not only does the new midfielder have to defend he also has to pass, support the forwards and score the occasional goal. Ballack can, he's already scored 9 times with his head this season. Something almost noone in our current squad seems to able to. When is the last time we've scored from a corner? Or any other set-piece for that matter?

i agree with you about the tactic issue but i doubt we can get ballack :rolleyes:

You sure are negative about SAF, the team has potential which they showed against Arsenal in the FA cup final, the problem is scoring goals. The players you want aren't just players at their respective clubs, they are star players so getting them isn't possible IMO. I agree with you about getting a keeper en midfielder, I don't care if it is going to be a big name or not. He just have to be good at was he has to do for the team.

Yeah, I guess I'm one of SAF's biggest critics on these boards. I think his expiration date is due. A new face in front of the group wouldn't be bad, it's refreshing for everyone within the club. A few of my points:

1. Transfer policy. ManUtd suck at transfers. Utd miss out on players, are guilty of being arrogant or end up paying too much. The role Ferguson's son has in all this is strange as well. I'm sure I don't have to talk about the obvious examples like Robben, Ronaldinho, Bellion, Saha, Veron.

2. Youth academy. Since Beckham and co hardly any home grown talents have come through the ranks. Only Fletcher, Brown and to some degree O'Shae have made it. Most of the other kids pushing for a first team spot have been bought from other clubs. Hell, we just signed another one from 1. FC Köln.

3. Media presentation. Ferguson lacks class now and then. Football is big business, press is a part of it, deal with it properly. His dispute with shareholders McManus and Magnier over a stud's sperm was less then classy as well.

4. Technical matters. It's been at least two or three seasons ago since ManUtd played attractive, attacking football. All that time we certainly had the players to do it, but Ferguson decided to change the system in order to accomodate certain players (Veron). Espescially in Europe I think SAF is guilty of being tactically clueless at times.

I know getting a player like Ballack isn't easy, but why hasn't ManUtd been in the race for Van Bommel for instance? He's matured a lot this season and now reminds me of the '99 Keane: all over the pitch, directing his team, scoring goals, and all of that for free. It wouldn't cost a ******* thing!

We payed god knows how much for Rooney, I'm sure if we offer that sort of money to Bayern Munich they at least would consider it, and we would have a chance of signing a player that could solve some of the problems.

But I'm pretty sure we'll end up with a midfielder that's not going to cut it and a goalkeeper that will not make a difference. :(

United to offer Ruud for Eto'o? :rolleyes:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281534&cpid=8&CLID=8&lid=&title=United+ready+to+join+Eto

nooooo dont leave ruud

When is the last time we've scored from a corner? Or any other set-piece for that matter?

Last i remembered Wes Brown against Newcastle at Old Trafford, but United has scored just a handful from set-pieces sadly.

Last i remembered Wes Brown against Newcastle at Old Trafford, but United has scored just a handful from set-pieces sadly.

Silvestre double against scousers. (H)
Alan Smith against Crystal Palace in 5-2 win.

I think thats just about it. :(

nooooo dont leave ruud


Are you dumb or what? A 24 year-old pacey striker that is runner-up in the Pichichi is better than an aging striker like Ruud. Although Ruud has scored loads of important goals, I feel that playing a new system that would mainly involve Rooney and Ronaldo will not suit him. If we sell Ruud, the best possible scenario is that we obtain Eto'o. He is about pace and power and he can convert chances as well as if not better than Ruud.

Read in my local paper, that we aren't gonna have a big transfer kitty over the next few years. It is now needed that we turn to youth. Imo, we have promising talent attackingly and defensively. To name a few, we have Rossi, Spector, Jones etc. Useless bastards like Saha, Miller should be sold to help to lighten our debts. I'm also partly thankful that Fergie got a one-year rolling contract instead of a longer one and I think that now is the right time to get a new manager since there are a few high standard managers such as Le Guen, O'Neill etc.

I like ruud but u are right etoo is young and fast and better

I like ruud but u are right etoo is young and fast and better

It's not right to make assumption he is better than Ruud. I would say that he could be as effective as Ruud if he just scores goals and help the team win.

etoo? even worse than Diego Forlan
reason? Forlan is the top goal scorer in La Liga while Etoo is not :rockman:

etoo? even worse than Diego Forlan
reason? Forlan is the top goal scorer in La Liga while Etoo is not :rockman:
But Forlan and Henry seem to be the 2 players who score the most in Europe this season.
So Forlan is still better. :p

I think that we really have to buy a midfielder in this summer. But its impossible to get someone young and cheap and good at both defence and attack and can replace Keane. So lets see what Fergie will do to help improve our midfield.

Eto'o is good and he fits in to the 4-3-3 system, Barca plays that system too

I'm not ready to give up on Ruud yet. He's brought me and millions of other fans too many a goalfeast to just abandon him when he has one bad season. A lengthy run in the first team next season can't hurt him.

I also hope David Jones and Guiseppe Rossi gain some muscle over the summer so we can have them for the bench next season. Jones and Fletcher in the center of our midfield is the future.

you guys have a great young forward in rossi if he would be used in the first team you would see how good he is

I'm not ready to give up on Ruud yet. He's brought me and millions of other fans too many a goalfeast to just abandon him when he has one bad season. A lengthy run in the first team next season can't hurt him.

Thank you.

Many people tend to forget that Ruud has been out for a long time with serious injuries. The amount of goals he has scored is still very respectable. Patience is the keyword. He'll rest in coming weeks and there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be back to his best in august. Show some loyalty to someone who has been absolutely magnificent for ManUtd over the last three seasons.

If you want to diss players, go diss that greedy, disrespectful **** Ferdinand.

Thank you.

Many people tend to forget that Ruud has been out for a long time with serious injuries. The amount of goals he has scored is still very respectable. Patience is the keyword. He'll rest in coming weeks and there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be back to his best in august. Show some loyalty to someone who has been absolutely magnificent for ManUtd over the last three seasons.

If you want to diss players, go diss that greedy, disrespectful **** Ferdinand.


I feel that Ruud won't fit the system we are playing. It's due to the lack of service from the players and poor wingplay. If there is anyone in the squad than Ruud that has an instinct like Ruud, it has to be Smith. Maybe he is not as good as Ruud but he can hold the ball and is not a bad header of the ball. He also is a Dickov not to mention a versatile player. I won't mind Eto'o for Ruud really. I still have loyalty and respect for Ruud, but we have to succeed as well.

Eto'o for van Nistelrooy?

Wishful thinking.

i agree rossi is amazing young talent, chuck him in a game

Eto may not suit the english game, he has pace, etc, but is not proven in premiership. He is a risk, is Fergie ready to risk a tried, proven and successfull premiership AND Champions League top scorer for a risky yet talented player.

I feel that Ruud won't fit the system we are playing. It's due to the lack of service from the players and poor wingplay. If there is anyone in the squad than Ruud that has an instinct like Ruud, it has to be Smith. Maybe he is not as good as Ruud but he can hold the ball and is not a bad header of the ball. He also is a Dickov not to mention a versatile player. I won't mind Eto'o for Ruud really. I still have loyalty and respect for Ruud, but we have to succeed as well.

What system are we playing? As a lone striker he worked his ass off and still managed to score a lot of goals. With this season's lack of quality balls in he's often had to drop back and get the ball himself not allowing him to be there on the edge of the box to score the goals.

Ruud has done well in the lone striker role, and for Holland he's been good in the 4-3-3 system. When he was playing for PSV he played well in a 4-4-2 as. I see no point in letting a proven goalscorer and a living ManUtd legend go.

My ideal line-up (with current material) would be:

4-4-2:
-------------Ruud--------------
------------Rooney-------------
-Giggs-----------------Ronaldo-
--------Keane-Scholes---------

With Rooney in a free role circling around Ruud. Much like the Raul/Ronaldo combo.

Ha! Can you believe that the S*n is still claiming we're gonna swap Ruud for Michael Owen? I mean c'mon. I did read in the Express that United are looking at Lyon's midfielder Juninho Pernambrucano (sp). Saw him playing for Brazil on Bravo's highlights this morning, could be just what we need.

Back on the Ruud subject, even if United did cash in - I'd love to see us go for Torres from Atletico Madrid, or Gilardino (who I think is already signed by Milan)

Of course I think that Smithy and Rooney would be a great partnership up front anyway. Promote Rossi to the first team, and we've still got four class strikers (five with Ole)


Mike

Will you lot have to sell before you can buy or is it just a -ve feeling toward Ruud?

It's not negative feeling against Ruud, I hope he stays and gets back to his best. I'm just saying that if the stories he wants to quit do turn out to be true then we should go for Gilardino or Torres. The transfer kitty is believed to be £25M a season :kader: , so to fund big moves then we would have to sell some fringe or unsettled players.


Mike

Forget about Gilardino.

He won't leave Italy with the WC coming up soon.

Also, he is Italy's future. Milan or Juve for him.

damn it dont waste money to buy another forward/striker as we have the best strikers in our club
for those who keep calling Fernando Torres should shut up
Do you really think he is that good?
oh well, who is the top scorer in Spain? You know!
Forlan was crap in MU then he suddenly become so great in Spain
See the difference!
No way we are going to risk our Legend for those new kids
Even Eto'o would not be a good idea
I have a belief that those who shined in Spain will never be a star in the Premiership
It is a proven fact!
Van Nistelrooy is a Red Devil
No way he is for sell!
Just one season of misery should not bring him to the exit
No way he is leaving!
Keep in mind that Ruud will earn his 4th european golden boot in the future with the identity of a Manchester United player!

Forget about Gilardino.

He won't leave Italy with the WC coming up soon.

Also, he is Italy's future. Milan or Juve for him.

My mate at work is a die hard AC Milan fan (he comes from near Milan), and he's been saying that they already pretty much have him signed for next season anyway.


As for the guy who tipped Ruud for the Golden Boot next season, I damn sure hope you're right! (As long as he's still ours of course :) )

Mike

We should forget about any forwards we have been linked with, whether we will sell Rio and Ruud or not. United has enough scorers, but the goals don't come out of blue, someone has to provide them. I have a huge ammount of respect towards Scholes, Keane and Giggs but I don't think they will get better next season. I know we don't have any money and that we need a goalkeeper the most, but getting someone younger to the centre midfield and giving that bastard Richardson a chance to play Giggs' position would be nice.

I will be very interested to see how young Kieran does next season, also I hope Chris Eagles will play more of an active role in the first team next season. As well as my favourite breakthrough star, Guiseppe Rossi :rockman:


Mike

Ruud can play in any system. He has played in Holland for so many years. Every football club starting from the amatures till the youth of prefessional clubs uses that system. So putting Ruud in a 4-3-3 system isn't a problem for him. It is the delivery that has to be worked on. With Kieran's good left foot, that problem could be solved, if he gets his chance next season

Goalkeeper is not really the biggest problem
Yes, we need to get another backup
but most importantly is to get two midfielders who can fill keane and scholes's slot as both of them are going down from the hill
look at gerrard and lampard, they will remind us the old keane and scholes
but we definately wont be able to get any of them
just no more djemba djemba type of players
any better players will do

Rio = either sign or sell now
Ruud = hope he remains, but if he doesn't want to - don't force him - he is a living MUFC legend and for everything he has given us we shoulnd't block his way if he wants to leave. he deserves better.

IMO Richardson > Giggs (fresh legs, speed, dribble, crosses, shots & freekicks basically everything the young giggs had aswell + he's not having a Giggs nowdays salary) IMO Fergie only wants to keep Giggs because he came trough and then all the succsess came & to break that appereance record...

Don't get me wrong, I loved Giggs, but the Giggs nowdays seldom insprires United. He got the chance when he was young - now give Richie a chance.

a Midfielder is needed definetly. Keane/Scholes are legends but since they are not the youngest anymore we could need fresh legs there. Fletch & Jones look like a good prospect but another hard working CM would be good.

I think the perfect replacement for Scholes is Kaka! I know its not going to happen but how I'd love to see him replace Scholes in the future/next year :rockman:

no kaka please
no italian/spanish game based players
history proved that they wouldnt suit English style game plays

What's with all these talks about swapping Ruud for Eto?
We should NEVER offer Ruud to anybody if Ruud does not want to leave...
This guy is class.. he has had a "crap" season this season due to injuries, but didnt he still top scored in the CL?
With him fit, Rooney and Ronaldo dragging the defences out, Ruud will be deadly..
Add Richardson to the mix, and we have three players that can drag the defence out of position...and Ruud will have just that little bit of room to score the goals we all know he is capable of..
With this lineup, next season will prove to be a very exciting one, and one that will hopefully bring us all the success we all want..


---------------------Ruud
-------------- Rooney

--- Richardson ---- Scholes ----- Ronaldo
------------------Fletcher

----Heinze ----- Rio ----- Silv ------Gary
------------------Howard


Giggs and Keane will obviously play quite a bit, but I believe our core team that plays most of the matches should be the one above.

PS. I admit Fletcher might not be able to do the job Keane can do, but relying on Keane for the whole season is even less likely to be successful...

no kaka please
no italian/spanish game based players
history proved that they wouldnt suit English style game plays

I know what you mean but Kaka is an attacking player and he plays just the way Man U play...kind of. He goes from defence to attack just like Scholes does. I rate him so highly and thats why I brought it up.

Anyway, I think we should get keano replacement this year (let him play with keane and then fill his gap) and then next year get a scholes or giggs replacement (depending on how well Richardson does) and then 3rd year get the other replacement scholes or giggs whoever needs to be replaced.

After all, the estimated budget will only allow us to buy one top quality player per year so I think my plan works out pretty well....

Well we'll never get Kaka for 25 mil anyways...

why we still looking for a striker? we should look for a keane replacement and a playmaking midfielder and a keeper. forget about striker please :|

Kaka's not a striker....

let me give you an example
veron owned in lazio
he sucked in MU
shined in the first game for chelsea then sucked again
he then suddenly owned again in inter milan
how do you explain it?

What system are we playing? As a lone striker he worked his ass off and still managed to score a lot of goals. With this season's lack of quality balls in he's often had to drop back and get the ball himself not allowing him to be there on the edge of the box to score the goals.

Ruud has done well in the lone striker role, and for Holland he's been good in the 4-3-3 system. When he was playing for PSV he played well in a 4-4-2 as. I see no point in letting a proven goalscorer and a living ManUtd legend go.

My ideal line-up (with current material) would be:

4-4-2:
-------------Ruud--------------
------------Rooney-------------
-Giggs-----------------Ronaldo-
--------Keane-Scholes---------

With Rooney in a free role circling around Ruud. Much like the Raul/Ronaldo combo.
Next season we have the option to play Solskjaer up with Ruud,behinde Ruud or play him on the wing!
i am sure Ruud will get some quality ball's that way!
Remember Ole is not just a finisher,he is a usefull tool in many position's and he can actually do good crosses!
Solskjaer might not play a lot of matches next season,but he can be very importen,when we need to turn things around.we have seen him up with Ruud before,and they play well together!
My biggest concerne is that Ole aint going to get 100% after his injury!
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With this lineup, next season will prove to be a very exciting one, and one that will hopefully bring us all the success we all want..


---------------------Ruud
-------------- Rooney

--- Richardson ---- Scholes ----- Ronaldo
------------------Fletcher

----Heinze ----- Rio ----- Silv ------Gary
------------------Howard




That is almost the same line-up/formation we used this season. It would'nt change anything.

Beckham backs Glazer (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=soccer/05/05/30/SOCCER_England_Beckham_Lead.html)

:sb9:

I was just wondering.....how good is Ferdinand's younger brother at Westham?

Don't know if this has been posted before but check that out. It's a clip about Rossi.

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/video/rossi2.wmv

Don't know if this has been posted before but check that out. It's a clip about Rossi.

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/video/rossi2.wmv

WOW! He's amazing!!! :eek:

Don't know if this has been posted before but check that out. It's a clip about Rossi.

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/video/rossi2.wmv
The dude is talented,no doubt!
think we will see him on the first team next season as a sub!
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Don't know if this has been posted before but check that out. It's a clip about Rossi.

http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/images/video/rossi2.wmv

he rocks :rockman:

guys this is my thought for the next season if we want to win something:

1. we must get a new midfielder someone like juninho or ballack
2. we must play 4-3-3 or 4-4-2
3. we must give ronaldo and ferdinand a new contract
4. we must sell non useful player like: miller etc.
5 we must buy a new goalkeeper someone like kameni,frey robinson.
6. glazer must do the right things because he is an smart man so if he dont do something crazy we will be back.
7. we must use the young player and dont buys usles players.
i think if we do this things we can win the liga (epl)

The only way Rossi will get better if he gets more games. If he doesn't, he will just be one of those promising talents gone bad. :boohoo:

rossi and richardson deserve a first team chance

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Hahahaha.:D

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promote rossi into the first team is a must

United plan to sell Rio? (http://inhome.rediff.com/sports/2005/may/31rio.htm) It's bunch of bull****, but still interesting to read. I hope we sell the ****er if he wants more then £100k

rossi is it going to be our next rooney

i agree with fernandez, if fergie doesn't give rossi a breakthrough next season,then he'll go waste.same with richardson,eagles,pique,spector,n'galula

http://www.talkmanunited.com for any reds, new site launched today, hope a few reds can come and help out

Thank you

just a summ up from the (former/actual) ManUtd - England Players
Richardson, Smith came on around the 75min.
Becks played and after he went off around the 75 min he gave the captains armband to Phil Neville.

Was Gary once England Captain for a few minutes ?
England won 3-2 vs Columbia by a Owen Hattrick.

back to ManUtd

If Keane won't be captain or playing anymore. who will it be ? surely not Rio anymore (Mr troublefinding everywhere)

my Vote goes G. Neville or Heinze

I say Ruud, hes been a good role model to rooney and many others.

Strikers should not be captains. If they loose form, the whole team follows. Just see Madrid, Newcastle, etc. And they are often too isolated up front, especially Ruud.

Prob G. Neville for captain, but I don't like his small time thinking attitude. Heinze, if he had been in England for a few extra years. I rate him to take the armband in the more distant future. Warrior.

Giggs is United's vice captain.

It's obvious he'd assume the role fulltime if he stays.

I say Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs should be co caps
or just paul.

I'd give the captaincy to Rooney.

He already has immense influence on the rest of the team.

Smith has the quality a captain needs
determined, high work rate, good teamwork, great commitment to the team
he is the role model of the team and should carry the armband in the future

Giggs , Gary,Ferdinand(is he thew captain for leeds few years back?)

Smith has the quality a captain needs
determined, high work rate, good teamwork, great commitment to the team
he is the role model of the team and should carry the armband in the future

Captains have to play more than 10 times a year.

Plus have you heard about the stuff he did at Leeds? Anyone who did wouldn't want him anywhere near the United armband.

Rio is a criminal, and Rooney doesn't speak english.

Hey ! I read from UNited Site that "Ruud van Nistelrooy is being offered to Barcelona in exchange for Samuel Eto’o. SunSport revealed yesterday the Dutch hitman has told Alex Ferguson he wants to leave Old Trafford."




Cool.... Eto'o is better than Ruud ... younger..
I hope the trade is successful

Smith has the quality a captain needs
determined, high work rate, good teamwork, great commitment to the team
he is the role model of the team and should carry the armband in the future

he is not commanding

Hey ! I read from UNited Site that "Ruud van Nistelrooy is being offered to Barcelona in exchange for Samuel Eto’o. SunSport revealed yesterday the Dutch hitman has told Alex Ferguson he wants to leave Old Trafford."




Cool.... Eto'o is better than Ruud ... younger..
I hope the trade is successful

sun = :sb9:

Rio says he isn't stalling...bla bla bla, same old bull****. Hope he signs or just ****s off already. How hard is it to sign a contract, he's already earning more than he can spend just sign on the dotted line!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=334729&cc=5739

ya this rio thing is going way too far.
after all we've been loyal and supportive to him during his ban,he's gone and jumped upon the club.

To you unloyal Ruud van Nistelrooij haters: Ruud isn't going anywhere. He wants to see out his contract. Ruud is as determined, as commited and as good as ever. Now think about that Eto'o/Ruud deal for a second. If Eto'o is so much better, why on earth would Barcelona let him go for a player who's older and not as good as you try to make us believe? The Sun is a crap newspaper. They lie all the time. Just a few days ago it had some G. Neville/Lampard rectifications in it.

To you unloyal Ruud van Nistelrooij haters: Ruud isn't going anywhere. He wants to see out his contract. Ruud is as determined, as commited and as good as ever. Now think about that Eto'o/Ruud deal for a second. If Eto'o is so much better, why on earth would Barcelona let him go for a player who's older and not as good as you try to make us believe? The Sun is a crap newspaper. They lie all the time. Just a few days ago it had some G. Neville/Lampard rectifications in it.

Maybe my stance of van Nistelrooy has been too harsh. :chew: I'd say we exchange Ferdinand for Eto'o. He is holding the club hostage and he thinks he is the best player at United.

Rio said that an agreement is coming closer and closer. Should the bastard start getting over 100k, he better prove he deserves it. I hope he ****s off though, there are other good CB-s too, who arent that cocky.

In our situation, who is he in my mind to demand over 100,000K?

Exactly. The **** is playing with us, the fans. We have stood by him when he decided to skip the cup pissing. All the time he was banned ManUtd payed him 70,000 a week for coming to the club to stay in shape. Now the **** wants 150,000? It'd be a nice gesture if he said: "I'll play for 35,000 for the time I was banned and you still payed me".

What the **** is this about anyway? Imagine 70,000 pounds a week, a week for god's sake! My dad earns some seriously good money, and our family knows we're blessed with that because so many other families have to do with much, much less. But my dad works 80 hours a week, makes big decisions, contributes to society, has three sons going to college and he doesn't get in a year what Rio earns in two weeks on his current deal.

You know what, **** Rio, he's been getting himself into too much trouble lately anyway. If we sold Stam and Beckham for whatever reason Ferguson decided to sell them for, Rio might as well **** off too.

Smith has the quality a captain needs
determined, high work rate, good teamwork, great commitment to the team
he is the role model of the team and should carry the armband in the future
yes, i think Smith will be a good captain with his never-give-up spirit. But he is not in the starting eleven, so probably Giggs, Gary and Rio will be the captain.

Keane>Giggs>Gary>Phil>Rio (Fergie seems to like this order...) :rolleyes:

Rio is an outstanding player and he is the key to the defensive form we've been in (before and after his suspension), he would be a great loss for us but that doesn't give him the right to act the way he's acting.

I want him to sign the deal, I really do but if he refuses well then it's goodbye.

Damn, you're all too pissed at Rio. Its not like the contract is 2 lines long: You'll get 100k pounds a week, sign below ______.
God knows what kind of clauses he has in there, so dont be so harsh on him. maybe the wage isnt even a problem anymore, but alot of other **** is, you never know now, with Glazer onboard. And you think Eto'o is any less of a prima-donna than Rio? The man thinks hes god himself.

No one really thinks that Eto'o is coming, we don't need him anyway.

Rio didn't want to sign a new contract before Glazer took over, so I don't that Glazer is the problem. Not that im saying we know everything about the negotiations, though.

I think he want as much money as the club has, dumb meathead.

MADRID RELEASE FIGO (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4599111.stm)

c'mon Fergie :p

we sure dont need Figo!he is good but are soon to old!

Maybe my stance of van Nistelrooy has been too harsh. :chew: I'd say we exchange Ferdinand for Eto'o. He is holding the club hostage and he thinks he is the best player at United.

We ain't going to exchange anyone, we have one of the best players and talents around. And why exchanging a defender for ANOTHER striker, Rooney will be way better than Eto'o in the near future, maybe he is better at the moment. And having an older striker near the young ones is good, they can teach them the good things on and off the pitch.

Love Ruud, Fvck Rio, Period.

And replace him (Rio) with......?

yes, i think Smith will be a good captain with his never-give-up spirit. But he is not in the starting eleven, so probably Giggs, Gary and Rio will be the captain.

Keane>Giggs>Gary>Phil>Rio (Fergie seems to like this order...) :rolleyes:
Rio is the vice captain? Not that order you just gave :S

And replace him (Rio) with......?

Scout, scout, scout. There are plenty around. Just not the big names. If I look in the dutch league AZ's Joris Mathijssen comes to mind. Now even an Oranje regular.

And replace him (Rio) with......?
Vincent Kompany could fill his boots, hes just a bit too young i reckon. Still id love to see him at Man Utd.

Rio is the vice captain? Not that order you just gave :S
Before Giggs renewed his contract, Rio was always given the armband when Keane was not on the pitch. Although Rio is not the most experienced player in the team, i think he is suitable as Giggs doesnt speak much on the pitch.

i think you are all blowing these rio contract talks way out of proportion. please point me to one world class player whose contract extention talks have lasted less than a few months and havent asked for more money. i can tell you now that you are goning to be hard pressed to find one.

sure rio's agent said he should be earning 120k a week. so what, thats what they would like, stilll doesnt mean thats what they are going to get. the agent is just using the media.

rio and ManU will reach an agreement but like every other contract renegotiation it aint going to happen over night.

i think you are all blowing these rio contract talks way out of proportion. please point me to one world class player whose contract extention talks have lasted less than a few months and havent asked for more money. i can tell you now that you are goning to be hard pressed to find one.

sure rio's agent said he should be earning 120k a week. so what, thats what they would like, stilll doesnt mean thats what they are going to get. the agent is just using the media.

rio and ManU will reach an agreement but like every other contract renegotiation it aint going to happen over night.

well said. :jap:

maybe getting figo for a year would be good cause it would make our young talents like ronaldo rooney richardson fletcher more proffessional under his guidance

and we are lacking that crossing and creativity which figo can provide

No to Figo.

Two years ago? maybe, but not now.

i think Queiros will bring Figo to Man Utd, they have a very good relationship. he's worth it, you'll see.

I'd like to see Figo play with Ronaldo at the Club level. It would improve their partnership for WC06. :)

Well, i would'nt mind Figo if he should agree with a reasonable wage, I doubt it though, and i can't see where could Figo play at the moment. I mean who would he replace? I don't think hes any better then our current midfielders. And I don't like this "benched in Real, starting for United" attidude.

good news :)

RIO UPBEAT ON CONTRACT TALKS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4598453.stm)


The whole situation was blown WAY out of proportion. :rolleyes: :nape:

Them rossi clips are pretty sweet (Y)

Looks like the building work has started at OT (The Nike Arena :( ). Went past today and there was two giant cranes by each corner by the North Stand.

Them rossi clips are pretty sweet (Y)

Looks like the building work has started at OT (The Nike Arena :( ). Went past today and there was two giant cranes by each corner by the North Stand.

its going to 75000 aint it? is that right?

its going to 75000 aint it? is that right?
Yup, pretty cool if you ask me.

http://spaces.msn.com/members/ManchesterBuccaneers/

Brilliant

Yup, pretty cool if you ask me.

very cool indeed :D (H)

beats Arsenal heheh (6)

"The England soccer side are in the US of A at the moment as they get ready to play Team USA in a country v country super-clash exhibition game at the Bruce Arena in Chicago." :D

That site is class :(

http://spaces.msn.com/members/ManchesterBuccaneers/

Brilliant
God damn, that is brilliant indeed...even mancs must have the odd chuckle at it


So to say something productive...uhh, any of you Mancs with your ear to the Red ground know what the latest is with your cornrowed twart Rio? He postures about wanting to have the ordeal over with, but him signing is the only outcome I cant imagine. Also, I know its been mentioned in the past, but would you all not be satisfied with Given? I doubt he would cost that much, but I guess it all depends on 1. What Malcolm the forehead allots to the board 2. Actually getting NUFC's ok

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Brilliant

i must admit that site is quite funny indeed.



According to that:

United must buy Diego Forlan :|

Shaun Wright-Phillips plays for united :|

United lost the Super bowl :|

United should sign Kieran Richardson :|

SAF should trade Rooney (or "Roonaldo") for Peter Crouch because Sven thinks he's better than him :|

Glazer is going to save United from inevitable disaster :|

Glazer's gonna "rock our world man!" :|

Rio Ferdinand is Brazilian :|



right....

So to say something productive...uhh, any of you Mancs with your ear to the Red ground know what the latest is with your cornrowed twart Rio? He postures about wanting to have the ordeal over with, but him signing is the only outcome I cant imagine. Also, I know its been mentioned in the past, but would you all not be satisfied with Given? I doubt he would cost that much, but I guess it all depends on 1. What Malcolm the forehead allots to the board 2. Actually getting NUFC's ok


RIO UPBEAT ON CONTRACT TALKS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4598453.stm)


I'd like to see Given at United, he is just as good (if not better) as any other keeper in the premiership without ever getting much credit for it. He would be a great signing, but i personally would prefer Frey, Kameni or Robinson.

Ruud van Nistelrooy wants Old Trafford exit

Manchester United’s prolific goal machine Ruud van Nistelrooy has held a meeting with manager Sir Alex Ferguson, indicating a desire to quit the Red Devils.

The Dutch ace has had a miserable season battling poor form and injuries, and is believed to have held the meeting with his manager last week, following the F.A Cup defeat to Arsenal.

The 28 year-old has apparently not placed a written transfer request with the club, but is looking to move away to rejuvenate himself and face new challenges. It is unlikely that Ferguson will simply allow the striker to leave the club, and will use all his powers of persuasion in order to convince van Nistelrooy to remain in Manchester.

If allowed to leave, van Nistelrooy would be the first player casualty under the new Malcolm Glazer era, and would surely leave a gaping hole in United’s attacking armoury. Real Madrid and Barcelona would be

www.ferhat.net

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i havent seen this yet on soccernet.com, is ferhat.net reliable?

this news from the sun :|

And there is no quote of Ruud saying all those things, its bullsh!t. :|

so is ferhat generall always full of crap?

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That was a nice read by the way, brings much laughter to a boring weekday morning..haha.. :rockman:

some from the tabloids and it is f*cking dissapointing

PSV Eindhoven star Ji-Sung Park has emerged as a shock transfer target for Manchester United. (Daily Mirror)

Luis Figo is hoping to move to either Liverpool or Man Utd after being told he is surplus to requirements at Real Madrid. (The Sun, Daily Express, Mail)

Manchester United have added Norwich City goalkeeper Robert Green to their list of candidates for the number one jersey at Old Trafford. (Daily Mail)

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if any of these happen,i would concede that the man utd transfer dealings over the past 2 years has gone bezerk.
Park Ji is full of talent but not good enough to be a man utd layer.hell,i would rate kieran better than him.

robert green?when the likes of arsenal and chelsea can be rumoured for big name players,why can't united.

as for figo,he would be good, but then again we have enough attacking players-its just that they don't finish good enough.regaining their form back,we've got a great attacking force.what we need is a keano replacement.
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barca,real,chelsea are now the clubs in limelight for transfer dealings.
united are going after ordinary players now.

dont be so gullable :fluffy:

some from the tabloids and it is f*cking dissapointing

PSV Eindhoven star Ji-Sung Park has emerged as a shock transfer target for Manchester United. (Daily Mirror)

Luis Figo is hoping to move to either Liverpool or Man Utd after being told he is surplus to requirements at Real Madrid. (The Sun, Daily Express, Mail)

Manchester United have added Norwich City goalkeeper Robert Green to their list of candidates for the number one jersey at Old Trafford. (Daily Mail)

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if any of these happen,i would concede that the man utd transfer dealings over the past 2 years has gone bezerk.
Park Ji is full of talent but not good enough to be a man utd layer.hell,i would rate kieran better than him.

robert green?when the likes of arsenal and chelsea can be rumoured for big name players,why can't united.

as for figo,he would be good, but then again we have enough attacking players-its just that they don't finish good enough.regaining their form back,we've got a great attacking force.what we need is a keano replacement.
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barca,real,chelsea are now the clubs in limelight for transfer dealings.
united are going after ordinary players now.

I guess you haven't seen Park play a lot. I wouldn't mind seeing him at Man U. The likes of Nesta etc couldn't handle him. And his work-rate is fantastic, that could motivate the rest of the players. My only concern is that he plays well under Hiddink, I don't know if he can produce the same without him.

What do you guys think of Hiddink commin' to Man U if SAF decides to retire?

Looks like Figo is on his way to England but will he playfor Utd or Liverpool?

Figo to Utd or Liverpool! (http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,1778_502395,00.html)

I guess you haven't seen Park play a lot. I wouldn't mind seeing him at Man U. The likes of Nesta etc couldn't handle him. And his work-rate is fantastic, that could motivate the rest of the players. My only concern is that he plays well under Hiddink, I don't know if he can produce the same without him.

What do you guys think of Hiddink commin' to Man U if SAF decides to retire?

Park is a good player, his problem is adepting to another language and another country. At ManUtd you don't have the same amount of time to adept as you've got at PSV.

Hiddink would be a good coach for Utd. It's just not going to happen.

From what I've seen of Park he's pretty good. Not a world beater but I think he'd definately fit into the United set up than 2Djemba's, Miller, and Kleberson. It's hard to tell though, I've seen him play once or twice but not that much and his work rate has impressed me as well as his game at times. I honestly do not think that his signing would be to solely break into the Asian market neither, although it would help.

I also quite like the idea of Shay Given being our goalie. I think Ferguson has to sign someone of some reputation for that position now and not someone that could become a great goalie. Given is definately good, I rate him as much as I rate Robinson, if not slightly more.

I don't know if I'd want Hiddink as our next manager. I reckon that the departed Lyon manager would be good, although I don't think he'd be out of work when Ferguson decides he's had enough.

Hiddink is good but I don't know if he's right for United. I'd love to see Dave Moyes succeed Fergie.

As for Park, the guy has amazing stamina, he just keeps running and running and he's a good player too.

I'll reserve judgement on Moyes as a potential successor to Ferguson until the end of next season. He fully deserves his Manager of the Year award and has done wonders for Everton but I feel that his ability as a Manager will be properly tested next season. If he has a more successful season than the one just completed then he'd get my vote as a potential successor to Ferguson, but in order to do that he needs to qualify for the Champions League 2006-2007 and to do well in the Champions League 2005-2006.

Looks like Figo is on his way to England but will he playfor Utd or Liverpool?

Figo to Utd or Liverpool! (http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,1778_502395,00.html)
He should go to Bolton. :rolleyes:

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:lol: Good stuff...

"I was really looking forward to seeing some of my Manchester players in action, but due to our non-winning season, the England coach Sven Eriksson has left out all my heroes! Wayne Roonaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Gary Neville and Roy Keano are all seen as not good enough for England." :funny:

"Again it went to a 12-yard goal challenge but three Milan players did a Scholes - which means missing and then bursting into tears." :nape:

"And this Keiran Richardson dude looks awesome for a rookie. Maybe Manchester should sign him too." :funny:

"Manchester's Brazilian defenseman Ferdinand Rio is in a bit of trouble at the moment." :funny:

"I just found out that we won the Barclays FA Premier Reserve League Shield play-off final against the Charlton Addicts practice squad." :funny: Addicts...

I think that if rio doesnt resign then we should go after Zat Knight. From what ive seen(England USA Tour) he is one of the best up and coming defenders and we should cash in on him, dont you all think.

I bet McLaren is United's next manager.

First off, Hiddink > Moyes and Le Guen combined

Second, Park just extanded his contract at PSV; he ain't going nowhere.

Park isn't coming? Damn. :kader:

Nice...Real Nice.... :rockman:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=282200&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=RUUD+TARGETS+UNITED+STAY&channel=Football_Home

Nice...Real Nice.... :rockman:

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Right on Ruud. that's me boy.

We've had some tough times over the past few weeks for sure, not to mention the entire season. Here's something that will cheer you guys up for those who haven't seen it... The highlights of the united vs bayern game in 99 (champs league final)...

http://files.filefront.com/Manchester_United_Treble_Win;3863062;/fileinfo.html

just follow the links, no need to register for anything... simple, enjoy!

thx... i had been looking for this very long

Nice...Real Nice.... :rockman:

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Rio should look at what Ruud did. Loyal to the club and all the fans and players will be confident to challenge next season.

We've had some tough times over the past few weeks for sure, not to mention the entire season. Here's something that will cheer you guys up for those who haven't seen it... The highlights of the united vs bayern game in 99 (champs league final)...

http://files.filefront.com/Manchester_United_Treble_Win;3863062;/fileinfo.html

just follow the links, no need to register for anything... simple, enjoy!


anymore highlights of the past?

from what ruud has said latest, he seems to be one of the most loyal players ever.
totally loyal to united.
thats the spirit we need.
and i cant recall a time when ruud has made a hash about signing a new contract just like rio has done.
ruud aint that greedy.he just wants to play.
top class player he is.

ruud have shows how is true united player looks like. i believe his loyalty will fans heart. i hope fergie won't do anything to surprise us

Isaksson wont come (thank god). (http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=282213&CPID=24&CLID=1&lid=&title=Rennes'+Isaksson+pledge&channel=Premiership)

Park "would" move. (http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=282238&cpid=9&CLID=1&lid=&title=Park:+I+may+move+on&channel=Premiership)

Although I dont know too much about him, I wouldnt mind him (actually it depends how much would he cost us), would be good for the marketing aswell :p

First off, Hiddink > Moyes and Le Guen combined

Second, Park just extanded his contract at PSV; he ain't going nowhere.

Not true. He's said he wants to sign an extension, but now that ManUtd are there to sign him he takes into consideration.

Not true. He's said he wants to sign an extension, but now that ManUtd are there to sign him he takes into consideration.

How'd you rate him? He might be a good capture considering he is just 24.

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=282298&cpid=9&CLID=1&lid=&title=United+Park+bid+confirmed&channel=Premiership

Agent confirms bid, but we all know what agents are like these days :rolleyes:

he is the one who upset portugal in world cup 2002. he consider as my favorite korean player and he is way better than the korean who score the winning goal against italy in world cup 2002. can't remember his name :rolleyes:

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=282298&cpid=9&CLID=1&lid=&title=United+Park+bid+confirmed&channel=Premiership

Agent confirms bid, but we all know what agents are like these days :rolleyes:

we even know how players like these days :rolleyes:

*cough* john mikel *cough*

I'm confident that John Obi Mikel would change his tune after a couple of months. He would say things like 'I'm glad to sign for this club' or 'I made the right decision'.

It was probaly his agent just tryin to get more money for himself. So maybe (note that i said maybe) maybe should judge him in a different light.

Does anyone get the feeling that Keane dislikes Ferdinand? I remember seeing Keane passing the armband to Giggs when Ferdinand was on the pitch.

It says Park can play on either flank but are we not supposed to be after a central midfielder? Where would Park play?

Park was S-Korea's biggest talent, Hiddink helped him develope to the player he is now. He had problems addapting to Holland, it took him about 2 years. But look now, Milan couldn't handle him and what I like about him is his work-rate, he can't stop running.

Does anyone get the feeling that Keane dislikes Ferdinand? I remember seeing Keane passing the armband to Giggs when Ferdinand was on the pitch.

I don't remember to have seen a scene - but I forgot most of this season anyway ASAP.

I could understand Keano - the captain to dislike the "probable future" captain because honestly Ferdinand is like the "Becks Circus" - Wife + Alcohol & Fights - everything a TRUE captain shouldn't be in the headlines for.

IMO Short Term Captains after Keano
G.Neville, Heinze, Smith - Rooney (not now, but in some years)

It says Park can play on either flank but are we not supposed to be after a central midfielder? Where would Park play?


I think he can play in centre too and we do need someone to replace Giggs on the left.

I think he can play in centre too and we do need someone to replace Giggs on the left.

*blink* Richardson *blink*

*blink* Richardson *blink*

I second that.. :rockman:

Yeah well, I just tryed to figure out where to play Park if he should come. I don't get Dutch league here so I dont know where does he fit the best.

Park and C.Ronaldo as wingers, U can be really happy Andrejs. Park has infinite Stamina, a hard worker, a great technical player and has a good shooter


Hopefully if u get him this may end Giggs stay at Man Utd, which i hate to see because I have lots of respect for Giggs in the starting lineup. But if it comes out for SAF to go younger its not a bad start

dont know why, but i just feel Ferguson doesn't have any faith in Richardson, even though he allowed him to go on loan to west brom which some may consider as a step closer to first team action at united .
with the rumours of park of psv, it seems more and more . And there are also no contract talks between fergie and richardson.
hes been in the reserevs since 3 years atleast and has given splendid performances.
im just wporried we dont let this talent go away to another club.

Yeah well, I just tryed to figure out where to play Park if he should come. I don't get Dutch league here so I dont know where does he fit the best.He's a winger who can play on both the left and right side. However, I personally that he's better on the right side. If you move Ronaldo to the left side as an replacement to Giggs, you can play Park on the right side.

Park himself has not (yet) extended his contract with PSV; they've been in talks for couple of months now if I'm right. Park has said he wants to move on to a bigger club.

How'd you rate him? He might be a good capture considering he is just 24.

To be honest, I haven't seen that much of him, apart from the CL games I've seen PSV play. I have no doubt about his ability, talent and his work ethic, but he finds it hard to adept to other countries/languages and that's why I doubt his mental strenght off the pitch. At PSV Hiddink was a trusted person for him, along with Lee. At ManUtd he's all alone.

But he could be a good left midfielder or a left winger for ManUtd. As far as I can judge he's more of a creator than a goalscorer. He could be a good replacement for Giggs even though his style is nothing like Giggs.