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what he said? lol


any other transfer news vince? Hopefully we get atleast one more young CB that Bayern can blossom. its time to loan JPG or Roque Santa Cruz now, especially if the wonderkid comes next year. I still want to see the Pizza-Makaay duo for alteast 1 more full season maybe 2 :p

Using my limited grasp of German something along the line of "Podolski is a German pig" :nape:

Yes. I'd angry as hell too if a possible superstar decided to play for Poland instead of Germany though. I can understand it.


any other transfer news vince? Hopefully we get atleast one more young CB that Bayern can blossom. its time to loan JPG or Roque Santa Cruz now, especially if the wonderkid comes next year.
Santa Cruz is on his way out to Hertha Berlin. No loan deal.

Yes. I'd angry as hell too if a possible superstar decided to play for Poland instead of Germany though. I can understand it.


Santa Cruz is on his way out to Hertha Berlin. No loan deal.



wow can't wait to see how there attack is going to be now :lui:

Bah, I thought we could eventually work Santa Cruz into being damn good..Who cares, were getting Podolski in a bit.

Why isn't Lahm playing in the Confed. Cup. Bayern's going to be a good team when he gets back. There are a lot of good German defenders their, but I think that they need a central defender as good as Lucio but the squad doesn't look like it's going to change much this summer. A shame they let go of Zickler, he used to be an international.

Need Podolski and keep Owen Hargreaves, he's a great player.

Very jealous of the Allianz Arena :(

You're right, but I'd think that with so much money, Chelsea would have plans for a better stadium, and bought a new striker even if it's for $60 million-their funds are unlimited. Peter Kenyon needs to start making some transfers or Chelsea aren't gonna win Champs League. Gudjonsson is only one player (a really good one though) but he deserves a better partner then Drogba.

You're right, but I'd think that with so much money, Chelsea would have plans for a better stadium, and bought a new striker even if it's for $60 million-their funds are unlimited. Peter Kenyon needs to start making some transfers or Chelsea aren't gonna win Champs League. Gudjonsson is only one player (a really good one though) but he deserves a better partner then Drogba.
Why? We will never move the Stamford Bridge site, it is the reason Chelsea exist, it is our home. No chance.

The place has no room to build unless you knock down the hotels, the most we can do is increase to 50,000 or 55,000.

Why isn't Lahm playing in the Confed. Cup. Bayern's going to be a good team when he gets back.

He's injured and will be out for about half a year. :(

There are a lot of good German defenders their, but I think that they need a central defender as good as Lucio but the squad doesn't look like it's going to change much this summer.
I'm satisfied with Ismael and possibly a young prospect. Ismael is a great upgrade over Kovac, Linke and Kuffour. He showed good leadership skills as the captain at Bremen.

A shame they let go of Zickler, he used to be an international.
He's having injury problems throughout his whole career. It's really a shame, that guy could've been a good player.

A bit off topic but I'm looking for wallpaper. I tried to find it by searching on Google and Google images but came up with nothing.

I'm looking for wallpaper for: the German national team, and Bayern Munich. It would be best if the wallpaper actually had players in it instead of just the logo (like the one in FIFA 2003 where the Munich players are celebrating their Champ's League win). Also, it doesn't have to be 800 x 600 or 1024 x 734. It just has to be a good enough size.

Also, does any one have a link to a picture of the German Football Logo like the one in Vince's post above.

check Ppatryk(spelling?) thread in the grafix(request) forum, he was one with schweinsteiger with national team jersey and the bayern logo..

It doesn't have a Bayern logo but is pretty nice. He has a Ballack and Hanke as well. I asked him to do a Podolski one. Hope he does it. :D

That Schweini sig is a piece of beauty. (H) Can anyone upload the Ballack wallpaper again? The imageshack link doesn't seem to work anymore.

Here's the schedule for the upcoming season.


05.08.05 20:45 FC Bayern München : Borussia M'gladbach

13.08.05 15:30 Bayer 04 Leverkusen : FC Bayern München

27.08.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : Hertha BSC Berlin

10.09.05 15:30 1.FC Nürnberg : FC Bayern München

17.09.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : Hannover 96

21.09.05 20:00 Eintracht Frankfurt : FC Bayern München

24.09.05 15:30 Hamburger SV : FC Bayern München

01.10.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : VfL Wolfsburg

15.10.05 15:30 FC Schalke 04 : FC Bayern München

22.10.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : MSV Duisburg

29.10.05 15:30 1.FC Köln : FC Bayern München

05.11.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : Werder Bremen

19.11.05 15:30 DSC Arminia Bielefeld : FC Bayern München

26.11.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : 1.FSV Mainz 05

03.12.05 15:30 VfB Stuttgart : FC Bayern München

10.12.05 15:30 FC Bayern München : 1.FC Kaiserslautern

17.12.05 15:30 Borussia Dortmund : FC Bayern München

28.01.06 15:30 Borussia M'gladbach : FC Bayern München

04.02.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : Bayer 04 Leverkusen

08.02.06 20:00 Hertha BSC Berlin : FC Bayern München

11.02.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : 1.FC Nürnberg

18.02.06 15:30 Hannover 96 : FC Bayern München

25.02.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : Eintracht Frankfurt

04.03.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : Hamburger SV

11.03.06 15:30 VfL Wolfsburg : FC Bayern München

18.03.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : FC Schalke 04

25.03.06 15:30 MSV Duisburg : FC Bayern München

01.04.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : 1.FC Köln

08.04.06 15:30 Werder Bremen : FC Bayern München

15.04.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : DSC Arminia Bielefeld

22.04.06 15:30 1.FSV Mainz 05 : FC Bayern München

03.05.06 20:00 FC Bayern München : VfB Stuttgart

06.05.06 15:30 1.FC Kaiserslautern : FC Bayern München

13.05.06 15:30 FC Bayern München : Borussia Dortmund

We have a pretty solid/easy end to the season after schalke..

I bet my arse the 3 of us have the same wallpaper in our PC...Well 4 uf us considering i have it in my lap as well :D

We have a pretty solid/easy end to the season after schalke..

I dont think so, we playing Werder, Shtutgart and Kaiserslautern. :)

Bleh, Werder, Stuttgart, well rise above..Kaiser.... wha?!Bayern shall dominate Carsten Jancker.

Start with Mochengladbach, end with Dortmund. Man are we gonna own that city.

lol

Nim i hope u joking man.

Klobb Kaiserslautern can be tough in their stadium......I forgot to mention Dortmund at last day....

Hey, just because I don't know what Borussia means, and assumed it was a city despite knowing for a fact that Dortmund is a city doesn't mean I'm stupid. Well, yeah it does.

Well Oliver Kahn and Oliver Bierhoff are not brothers thats what you meant i guess. :p

Yep, that's pretty much it

Rofl, Man, FC Schalke, FC Nurnberg, FC Koln, we are gonna own that FC city. :rolleyes:

Some new rumours from the "Kicker". Santa Cruz will leave Bayern for 3 million. Bayern are planning to invest this amount if money into Podolski who has a market value of about 16 million. Chelsea and Man United also have their eyes on him.

16 million or not, the Cologne fans would start a civil war if Podolski was sold.

Man i think selling Roque is a mistake we should keep him as the third starter and loan Guerrero so he gets what he needs and its playing time i n the bundiliga

Santa Cruz has been with the club for 6 years without getting much playing time. He turns 24 in a few months, Hertha Berlin is a good club for him. He'll be their first striker.

Guerrero should be kept one more season until we buy Podolski or any other striker. With Hashemian leaving and Santa Cruz on the way out he will get chances to prove himself.

I wonder what our tactics will look like. Magath said he wants to give Ballack a more defensive role as last season - between the playmaker Karimi and the DM.

Rofl, Man, FC Schalke, FC Nurnberg, FC Koln, we are gonna own that FC city. :rolleyes:

Yeah, well Borussia is a little different than "Fussball Club", it's different because it's like a word that sounds like a city! Anyone care to enlighten me?

Yeah, well Borussia is a little different than "Fussball Club", it's different because it's like a word that sounds like a city! Anyone care to enlighten me?
Borussia is latin vor Preußen/Prussia. It just shows where they are from. When the club was founded Westfalen was a prussian province.

Don't sell any strikers in the summer unless someone pays you a lot. Bayern shouldn't make the same mistake Liverpool did last season when they sold Owen and ended up with Baros as the only good striker because Cisse got injured. One of them is will definitely leave (probably Santa Cruz) so you don't want to loan out Geurrero and end up with Santa Cruz leaving.

I don't think that Ballack should be given too much of a defensive role because he can really score goals if you let him, he can score more then Lampard or any other midfielder except maybe Ronaldinho.

Is there a or will there ever be an English version of Kicker magazine. I know that magazines like the Italian one's come in English as well so more people can buy and read them around the world.

Yeh, agreed on the subject of Cologne fans starting a revolution if Podolski was sold.
PS: treble, u spelled Bayern like Beyern in your sig.

Don't sell any strikers in the summer unless someone pays you a lot. Bayern shouldn't make the same mistake Liverpool did last season when they sold Owen and ended up with Baros as the only good striker because Cisse got injured. One of them is will definitely leave (probably Santa Cruz) so you don't want to loan out Geurrero and end up with Santa Cruz leaving.



Well doing so Pool won the CL. Lets sell Santa...lets sell Santa.....
Id rather sell him now than in xtmass we might end up selling the wrong santa. :ewan:

selling the wrong santa..wha..

That's a good joke-selling the wrong Santa-Santa Claus/St. Nicholas at christmas

You think they should signed Marek Mintal? A loan deal?

Nah, we have enough midfielders.

Interview with Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge:

fcbayern.de: Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, how concrete is Bayern's interest in Lukas Podolski?

Karl-Heinz Rummenigge: "If we weren't interested in the best German striker, who is still extremely young at just 20, we'd be in the wrong business. We're keen to see him possibly come to us in the not too distant future."

fcbayern.de: Potentially after the 2006 World Cup?

Rummenigge: "He has a release clause which fundamentally doesn't allow him to leave until 2007. We'll have to wait and see how it develops."

fcbayern.de: Have you already spoken to Podolski, his agent or Cologne?

Rummenigge: "There haven't been any talks up to now. And we don't want to burden the lad unnecessarily."

fcbayern.de: Press reports are suggesting Podolski's arrival could coincide with Roque Santa Cruz leaving the club. Hertha BSC Berlin have been strongly linked with the Bayern striker. Is Santa Cruz about to quit Munich?

Rummenigge: "No, quite the opposite. His contract does expire in 2006, but we'd like him to stay. And I believe he'd like to make the breakthrough at Bayern Munich."

fcbayern.de: Bayern would also like to hold onto Michael Ballack. How far advanced are talks over a potential contract extension?

Rummenigge: "We'll sit down and hold talks in peace and quiet, in the hope we'll find a solution. I reckon we'll be in a position to know whether we can agree before the end of this year."

fcbayern.de: Finally, a word on the Confederations Cup. How do you rate the tournament, and Germany's performance so far?

Rummenigge: "The Confederations Cup has fundamentally been a positive experience. I continue to think it's not a particularly valuable competition, but you have to be frank and admit it's a good test from a German point-of-view, and there had been good games. So you've got to be very satisfied with the event."

This is the key statement: fcbayern.de: Have you already spoken to Podolski, his agent or Cologne?

Rummenigge: "There haven't been any talks up to now. And we don't want to burden the lad unnecessarily."

They haven't talked at all, so don't expect anything anytime soon.

I don't think that Ballack should be given too much of a defensive role because he can really score goals if you let him, he can score more then Lampard or any other midfielder except maybe Ronaldinho.

He also hits more shots over the bar than any other midfielder. As long as he can get on the end of corners and crosses from the wing, he'll score, there's no reason why we should keep him up front when his skill to control a midfield is much further advanced than his dribbling and vision of the field.

My advice to Bayern: Buy Podolski before someone like Chelsea who's looking for a striker comes along.

No way in hell would Koln sell Podolski now. His price will rise dramatically after the World Cup as he should do very well. Besides, like someone already said, their fans would probably start a revolution if he's sold. He wouldn't agree to join us anyway.

About next term, I think we have a good enough squad. Defense will be strengthened with Lahm and Ismael. We dont need another center-back as Demichelis and Jeremies and both play at that position. Midfield and Attack we should even have to worry. If the team can duplicate their form from the last few months of the season, we're fine. Speaking of Jeremies, I really hope the guy can get more games next season. This guy is pure class. Never complains, helps off field as well as on, and is always there when he's needed. We should get his chance with the smaller squad.

Guerrero is doing genealogy research at the moment in order to find European acestors. From the next season on the non-EU spots will be limited to 4, the season after to 3. This affects all European leagues.

Not the Eredivisie :lui:

I felt the same way about Neuville and Beirhoff as Jeremies. I don't know how old he is now but Jeremies should get more playing time. Oliver Neuville is still good and he should've been called up for intnl duty if he hasn't yet retired from it. I also don''t know what happened to Martin Max?

Neuville was good for the first few games of the season, but got lost from there. Jeremies is 31 and he retired from international duties to concentrate on Bayern. Pity he doesn't play too many games.

Congrats to Lucio and Ze Roberto for winning the Confed Cup. Both had a good tournament. (Y)

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Jesus loves you? Oh god :rolleyes:

Jesus loves you? Oh god :rolleyes:
Hush.

Chelsea boss Mourinho turns to Bayern Munich's Pizarro (http://www.tribalfootball.com/june/englshnews7280605.html)



Hope he doesn't leave :(

20 million for Pizza, turn around and spend 15 million on Podolski. Even after the World Cup I don't see Koln getting 15 million for him.

Sell Pizza for 15 million and up. Get Podoslki (Or Wesley Sneider) for around 12-13 (7-10 for Sneider) and we are all set. I mean i love Pizzaro but this is Chelsea we are talking about. They can afford everything.

I would aslo settle with 12 million and Huth for a third central defender......Other striking options : Owen from Real Madrid, Mike Hanke from Schalke 04....


Regarding Martin Max, well he became good at over 30 years and with an aging team u can't really rely on a striker with no national team experience unless he is a young stud.

20 million for Pizza, turn around and spend 15 million on Podolski. Even after the World Cup I don't see Koln getting 15 million for him.
Yup.

Dont think even Chelsea would pay 20 million for Pizarro, but if they offer to much to turn down.

tribalfootball stinks...

Every player has his price.

Every player doesn't have his price because if he did, then Gerrard and Shevchenko would be down at Stamford Bridge by now. Chelsea is getting a bit impatient trying to get a striker I'm sure and Claudio Pizarro is a good player who's underrated but he probably won't go for 20 million. You could buy Podolski for 10-20 million anyways. You could always offer Pizarro for Robert Huth but I don't think that Munich sould sell any strikers.

You could always offer Pizarro for Robert Huth

How 'bout nah

You could also park a tractor in front of Kahn.

i say we head to cologne with an jumbo jet full of cash and say take it and well take podolski.

Welcome Ali Karimi

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i say we head to cologne with an jumbo jet full of cash and say take it and well take podolski.
Then the people of Cologne will get their FLAKs and shoot the jet down.

I can't wait to this Karimi guy in action. I doubt he'll become an instant success, though. How long is he contracted to Bayern for?

1 year with an option for a second one. Magath said Karimi would be a key in the tactics as the new playmaker and creative player.

http://www2.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=59625

Would you guys honestly say you'd have Mertesacker in your team?
From what I've seen, he's very average. Slugish and immobile, and only good for the odd CK clearence.
But then again, I don't know jack.

The right back for Bayern-Andreas Gorlitz is always injured and Mertesacker can play as a right back plus he's a good defender. You have to watch defenders carefully when judging them because it's tougher to spot a good defender compared to a good striker. Mertesacker isn't the best but I'm pretty sure that he's good enough and he'll improve.

Give him one more year with a secured first team spot at Hannover and he'll be a fine defender.

I thought he had a good Confed Cup, unlike Huth. To me he seemed like a quite mobile guy considering the fact that he is 2 meters tall. He also looked comfortable with the ball.

To answer your question no, I would not want him on my team because of two reasons:
- with Lucio and Ismael and Demichelis as CBs Bayern's defense is strong enough to compete
- he needs playing time and I don't him rotting on the bench

But I'd love to have his transfer rights starting from the 06/07 season.

The right back for Bayern-Andreas Gorlitz is always injured and Mertesacker can play as a right back plus he's a good defender.
Sagnol is the regular right back and secondly you can't play a 2m guy on that position.

some nice lines from fcb.de on Magath
However, the coach has yet to put one matter arising from the previous season behind him, admitting his side's unlucky Champions League quarter-final exit to Chelsea was still a source of irritation. "Even now, I'm a little upset," Magath told the journalists.

The answer was a new assault on the European throne. "Our priority is to defend our domestic trophies. But our target will be to win the Champions League," he declared

Robert Huth is pretty big and he can easily play as a right back.

Ze Roberto ran curves around him.

How are we going to win the CL with Karimi leading our front line is far beyond me. :ewan:

Karimi isn't a world class striker and you can't argue it and he was a pointless signing. Makaay, Pizarro, and Santa Cruz are all really good but Santa Cruz just doesn't get a chance to play for some reason. Anyways, I don't think that Bayern really needs to be aiming to build a champions league team right now because they can still do well with the squad they have in the CL.

Give Karimi a chance to prove himself, then judge him. If he adapts to the European football he will definitely help us.

Vince i borrowed your Podolski goal and made an avatar for myself without asking permmition. :p But i have a request. If you have the Ballack free kick please?
Ill use it somewhere else and here i'll make u one. :ewan:

Karimi is an attacking midfielder, not striker. He'll be playing a Scholl type of role. I don't think he's that pointless, as Scholl will definately get injured in the first few games, and he might be able to fill in.

Vince i borrowed your Podolski goal and made an avatar for myself without asking permmition. :p But i have a request. If you have the Ballack free kick please?
Ill use it somewhere else and here i'll make u one. :ewan:
Actually I "borrowed" it myself without permission, too. I found it in the PES forums.

Link for PES forum, or better link of a topic where they have gifs like them.

Podolski is just phenomenal, I think I would rather have him than any other striker in the world on my team (factoring in age of course). That goal against Mexico was just incredible and he made a world class shot like that just look routine.

Link for PES forum, or better link of a topic where they have gifs like them.
http://www.soccergaming.tv/member.php?userid=23953

Robert Huth is pretty big and he can easily play as a right back.

And get his punk ass run over by anyone with pace? Heh. And yes, Huth is a pretty big lumbering piece of ****.

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Bayern Munich creamed SV Munchen 1860 with 11-0

SV 1880 München – FC Bayern 0:11 (0:6)

Karimi played 90 minutes and assisted 5-7 goals and according to fc bayern forum, he played very well.



FC Bayern: Rensing – Sagnol (46. Ottl), Mauersberger, Ismael, Rau (46. Steinhöfer) – Hargreaves, Jeremies, Scholl (46. Ortiz), Salihamidzic – Santa Cruz, Karimi

Fans: 1.880

Tore: 1:0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:0 Santa Cruz (12., 19., 31., 34.), 5:0 Jeremies (38.), 6:0 Hargreaves (41.), 7:0 Santa Cruz (51.), 8:0 Ortiz (60.), 9:0 Jeremies (77.), 10:0, 11:0 Salihamidzic (81., 85., jeweils per Foulelfmeter)

So apparently Guerrero found his European ancestors and can get a EU passport in the next months

from fcbayern.de
"His grandfather or great-grandfather left Europe for Peru"

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and another young player from the amateurs is about to make the big step

Promising youngster Andreas Ottl is following in the footsteps of Owen Hargreaves, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Philipp Lahm, Michael Rensing and Paolo Guerrero by making the leap from the club's "junior team" youth set-up into the first-team squad. The Germany U-20 international has signed professional forms with the club, accepting a deal running until 30 June 2007. The player immediately joins the double winners' senior squad, now comprising 24 professionals. Ottl has been assigned the squad number 39.

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FC Bayern München's regular presence in the UEFA Champions League over the years has brought them the highest financial reward of any club that has taken part in the competition.

Two-time finalists
The German outfit, who won the Champions League in 2001 and reached the final two years earlier, have been paid a total of just over €190m in performance, results-related and television pool money since the competition got under way for the 1992/93 campaign.

Manchester and Madrid
Manchester United FC, who beat Bayern with two last-gasp goals in that memorable 1999 final in Barcelona, are second in the all-time earners' list with just over €179m, while Real Madrid CF – winners in 1998, 2000 and 2002 – have received nearly €177m.

Following places
Juventus FC (€152m), AC Milan (€136m), Arsenal FC (€134m) and FC Barcelona (€118m) fill the following places in the table, which covers the 1992/93 to 2004/05 seasons.

Roughly how much money do you get for winning the Champ's League anyways?

25 - 30 mil GBP

How come we got more than Real Madrid is beyond me. Not that i complaint but still they won 3 we got one and lost one dramatically. Man U as well won just one and is second....wierd.

This guy Ottl better be German because i'm kinda tired of giving other NT players (Hargreaves-England, Guerrerro-Peru) :)

This guy Ottl better be German because i'm kinda tired of giving other NT players (Hargreaves-England, Guerrerro-Peru) :)
Ottl is German, but I wonder why Ottl joined the 1st team and not Steinhöfer.

How come we got more than Real Madrid is beyond me. Not that i complaint but still they won 3 we got one and lost one dramatically. Man U as well won just one and is second....wierd.
It's quite simple. We usually are the last German team in the competition so we don't have to share the tv money with other clubs. In 2001 there were 3 Spanish sides in the semis.


This guy Ottl better be German because i'm kinda tired of giving other NT players (Hargreaves-England, Guerrerro-Peru) :)

The Germany U-20 international

Is Steinhofer going to sign a professional contract soon? Cause I heard that he was really close to one at the end of last year. And is he a central defender or full-back?

Ballack Wants Out

Michael Ballack has alerted Europe's top clubs, after admitting that he is very interested in moving abroad in the near future.

The Bayern Munich captain only has a year to run on his current contract and with Ballack harbouring ambitions to play in Europe, Munich may be forced to cash in on their German asset now rather than losing him for free next summer.

The current situation is not troubling Ballack, who is happy to wait until he feels the time is right.

The German revealed: "I'm really relaxed about it all. The hardest decisions in my career are all behind me, like when I was 18 and had to decide whether to stay in the regional league or turn professional.

"Then I had to decide the right time to leave Kaiserslautern for Bayer Leverkusen. Later, the same was the case for the transfer to Bayern Munich.

"I've always made the right decisions so far. I'm now playing at a top European club and still have the chance to play abroad."

Ballack has won the Bundesliga title with Bayern, but the club have never taken the midfielder back to the European exploits of former club Bayer Leverkusen, who lost in the 2001/02 UEFA Champions League final to Real Madrid.

At 28 years of age, Ballack is in his prime and he admits that a move abroad to a top European club is a prospect he relishes.

"There are hardly any (German) players who are abroad that have advised me against taking such a big step.

"It's good for a person's overall development. It would also be very interesting for me."

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Ballack never shown his true colours with Bayern and probably never will. And he's always talking about leaving. No loyalties either. I say we let him go to Madrid for 25 million, and use the money buy Sneijder for our playmaking and push Schweinsteiger to the middle. I think Schweinsteiger would fit very well in the middle. He can attack, run, mark, and tackle. He would be more loyal to the club too, as he was brought up from the junior team.

I'd never want Schnajder in my team. He is overrated and never consistent.

It amases me how horrible the bundesliga is. I mean we are the only big team and we still are the only one to manage promoting young talents. Others prefer to buy midrange foreigners that will never make our league better.

Any info on Ottl and Steinhofer? I mean more than just 'part of the amatorial team.'

Ballack isn't going anywhere, if I have to kidnap his family and force him to play for Bayern until he's 35 I will.

It amases me how horrible the bundesliga is. I mean we are the only big team and we still are the only one to manage promoting young talents. Others prefer to buy midrange foreigners that will never make our league better.

Cologne - Podolski, Sienkewicz
Stuttgart - Hildebrand, Kuranyi, Hinkel, Lahm, Tiffert
Schalke - Pander, Hanke
Hannover - Mertesacker
Bremen - Schulz, Borowski, Ernst
Dortmund - Metzelder, Odonkor
Frankfurt - Alex Meier, Patrik Ochs, Reinhard

Ottl was the only Bayern player in the U20 team.

What are you talking about QYC. The goal for Bayern Munich is to win the Champion's League and you always need a world class midfielder to do that. If you have Michael Ballack, then you have one of the best players in the world who can't be replaced by Sneijder but maybe by Gerrard or Lampard who your obviously not gonna get.

Second of all, I don't get why players are so eager to go to Real Madrid, I think that Bayern has a better chance of winning then Madrid plus Munich is a nicer city then Madrid. If you want to go to and play in a nice city then go to Stockholm but seeing how you're already in a nice clean country like Germany then stay there. Anyways I hope he stays and in Munich and if he moves then it's to Chelsea who were intrested in him two seasons ago.

How stupid are players getting these days, they just want to go to Real Madrid because of the prestige of the name, even though the team isn't close to being the best.

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More like, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :D

You can still get a good wage at a club like Chelsea or Bayern Munich which is in a good city. Man I live in Canada and I'd never go to a Spanish, French, or Italian club. I'd do my best to get in Germany or England, if not then I'd be happy in Sweden since they have a decent league and people speak English there, plus they're cool. Money isn't the only factor. I couldn't stand to go to Italy where the only sports I like are football, rugby, and f-1. In Sweden though, you've got people who actually play sports, good music, etc.

I guess it depends on the player in the end though. I know that there's prestige behind Real Madrid, but where would you rather live-Munich or Madrid.

Cologne - Podolski, Sienkewicz
Stuttgart - Hildebrand, Kuranyi, Hinkel, Lahm, Tiffert
Schalke - Pander, Hanke
Hannover - Mertesacker
Bremen - Schulz, Borowski, Ernst
Dortmund - Metzelder, Odonkor
Frankfurt - Alex Meier, Patrik Ochs, Reinhard

Ottl was the only Bayern player in the U20 team.

You can add KRINGE!!!, Gambino, Kruska and Ricken to that list for Dortmund

Kringe was brought into professional football by Cologne. (C)

You're right about the other although I doubt we'll hear much about Gambino and Ricken in the future.

Or Bobic or Max. The Bundesliga I think has a tendency to just forget about certain strikers.

Kringe was brought into professional football by Cologne. (C)

You're right about the other although I doubt we'll hear much about Gambino and Ricken in the future.

Dortmund sent him on loan to Koln. Then they called him back this season. He was still under contract with Dortmund.

Same with Lahm.

Ballack i rumored to have been linked with Inter Milan? Anyone heard anything like that?

No, haven't heard that..yet.

The latest rumors say Ballack will be offered €10M per (incl. advertising revenue).

I so hoped the Gerrard to Madrid deal would put an end to these endless Ballack talks and rumors. Every summer the same sh*t.

Yeah, I think what happened with Gerrard will make Florentino go after Michal Ballack

Why would Ballack go to Inter PoGolski? Think about where he'd have the better chance of success and a good lifestyle, Bundesliga or Serie A. I could see him in the Spanish Liga but maybe we're hoping that Madrid can fix some of their problems just so that they don't buy Ballack because I hate Madrid.

I couldn't see Ballack joining Inter. It doesn't seem like much of a step up from Bayern (career wise), in my opinion.

He is somehow linked with them. And Moratti adores German players. In a recent interview he emphasized the fact that Inter doesn't win the serie since the big 3 germans left (Mathaus, Brehme and Klinsi). Plus he should fit fine with Inter. I mean he is a type of midfielder than can attack and score many goals but also defend wisely. That's what Inter is looking for. The problem is that with Ballack gone we need a world class substitute and in the Bundesliga there aren't any good ones left other than D'alessandro which is very inconsistent and like Vince once said he loves to be a prima dona. Even though i would settle for one between Essien and Canaj.

Edit:
Yeah, I think what happened with Gerrard will make Florentino go after Michal Ballack


He ain't going to no Real Madrid. I mean it is an all star team but Ballack just doesn't fit in there. Meaning he is a world class player but his ego will clash with other superstars in Madrid and Florentino will once again witness another catastrophe.

He ain't going to no Real Madrid. I mean it is an all star team but Ballack just doesn't fit in there. Meaning he is a world class player but his ego will clash with other superstars in Madrid and Florentino will once again witness another catastrophe.
Every player wants to play for Madrid one day, it is the most famous club in the world. I think he can fit in nicely playing his beloved position between the defensive and offensive midfielder.

I couldn't see Ballack joining Inter. It doesn't seem like much of a step up from Bayern (career wise), in my opinion.
How is Inter a step up in any way? Bayern can offer him the same or even more money, he can win more domestically, chance of winning the CL is about the same, the new beautiful stadium and playing with the core of the WC team - :rolleyes:

How is Inter a step up in any way?

It's not, really. I'm only giving Inter a bit of credit because of the German players thay had in the past.

Bayern can offer him the same or even more money, he can win more domestically, chance of winning the CL is about the same, the new beautiful stadium and playing with the core of the WC team - :rolleyes:

That's precisely my point, Vince.

Hell move outta germany after WC if he is to go.

Our officials are not dumb, they know there are two options only: either extending his contract now or selling him.

Letting him go for free after the WC would be gtjsyeonh<s+#hjs<erq2jr5jüt

Just a quick question,

does anyone know if Bastian Schweinsteiger will be keeping the number 31 shirt for the upcoming season.
I was thinking of getting the new home shirt with his name on it!

And also for Bayern's sake i hope they keep hold of Michael Ballack.

Yeah he will keep the number. That's one heck of a name on the back. (H)

I think he should call him self BASTI. That last name is ridiculos. :D

You can still get a good wage at a club like Chelsea or Bayern Munich which is in a good city. Man I live in Canada and I'd never go to a Spanish, French, or Italian club. I'd do my best to get in Germany or England, if not then I'd be happy in Sweden since they have a decent league and people speak English there, plus they're cool. Money isn't the only factor. I couldn't stand to go to Italy where the only sports I like are football, rugby, and f-1. In Sweden though, you've got people who actually play sports, good music, etc.

I guess it depends on the player in the end though. I know that there's prestige behind Real Madrid, but where would you rather live-Munich or Madrid.

I don't mean to offend you here, but it's pretty obvious you are a teenager, probably 15 or so. The statement "I couldn't stand to go to Italy where the only sports I like are football, rugby, and f-1" is just incredibly telling how much your mind is unlike every rational adult ever. Ballack, or anyone else, would never turn down a career move because he can't see some sporting event in Spain or Italy. If an Italian company, or a Japanese company, offered you a huge promotion, unlimited creative freedom, and more money than you've ever seen in your life there is no possible way any rational adult would turn it down because they can't watch Green Bay Packer games in Italy or Japan. In terms of exposure and marketing, Real Madrid is the epitome of the soccer world, at Bayern, Michael Ballack is a star, but at Real Madrid he can be an icon. He can have coffee cups and frisbees with his face on them and they will SELL all over the world. And if he wants to do something in the media after his playing career, playing for Madrid offers him more worldwide opportunities. It's just not even close.

Heh, when some spanish channel around here was showing the Germany - Mexico game, the announcer would always mess up his name. I'm prob. gonna get a bayern jersey and customize and put Podolski on the back :brow:

First of all, I like Rugby not American Football so there's I don't want to stick around watching the friggin Greenbay Packers.

Ballack's ego wouldn't clash at Real because he's not a pri madona player and he doesn't have a Galactico ego. The worse thing that could happen to Bayern would be to sell Ballack. I know that Ballack isn't going to consider other sports when or if he signs with a new team but I was just giving that as an example. Not everyone wants to go to any country when they're already happy. If you asked him he'd probably want to play in the Premiership if he was offered anyways.

The club will most likely offer Ballack a salary package of €40M until 2010.


Injuries updates on Lahm and Görlitz

Görlitz, originally injured eight months ago, briefly resumed the daily workout at the end of May, but suffered a setback and was forced to undergo keyhole surgery. The operation was a success, but the 23 year-old must continue rebuilding muscle strength to stabilise the damaged knee. "I might be back in training in a week or so," he declared optimistically.

International colleague Lahm is resigned "to a long wait," the 21 year-old reported. "I can't even say whether it will be October or November." His target is a return to action after Christmas. "That would give me half a season before the World Cup, which is enough to recover the form you need at a World Cup. I reckon I'd be playing left-back for Germany if I was fit."

First of all, I like Rugby not American Football so there's I don't want to stick around watching the friggin Greenbay Packers.

Ballack's ego wouldn't clash at Real because he's not a pri madona player and he doesn't have a Galactico ego.

Oh sorry, it's not like I was making a hypothetical example or anything. Dumbass.

No, he's not a pri madona, but he is a prima donna. Ballack does have an ego, it's just not publicized much outside of Germany.

So are you saying that you want to sell Ballack? Who's gonna replace him eh?

With the amount of money we will receive for him, we will have many options.

This is the rumor for Jared Borguetti but its in German. Can someone please summarize or paraphrase it for me in English. Sorry pretty long....

Borgetti – nur ein schöner Traum? Amanatidis kommt, Zeitpunkt offen

Von Peppi Schmitt

Frankfurt. Bei ihrer Suche nach einem weiteren torgefährlichen Stürmer ist die Frankfurter Eintracht auf einen ganz prominenten Profi gestoßen. Jared Borgetti, Mittelstürmer und Spielführer der mexikanischen Nationalmannschaft, hat mit starken Leistungen beim Confederations Cup Begehrlichkeiten beim Bundesliga-Aufsteiger geweckt. «Ich weiß, dass Interesse da ist», bestätigte Trainer Friedhelm Funkel, konkrete Verhandlungen hätten allerdings noch nicht stattgefunden.

Eintrachts sportlicher Berater Bernd Hölzenbein hat mit dem Berater des Mexikaners lediglich Kontakt aufgenommen. Für Funkel und den eher skeptischen Vorstandschef Heribert Bruchhagen («Ernsthaft ist an eine Verpflichtung nicht zu denken, denn finanziell spielt Borgetti in einer anderen Liga») hat Weltmeister Hölzenbein die Vita des Spielers Borgetti zusammengestellt. Der 31 Jahre alte Mittelstürmer steht bei Atletico Pachuca unter Vertrag und ist in seiner Heimat ein Volksheld. Borgetti hat 66 Länderspiele bestritten und 33 Tore erzielt, zuletzt gleich zwei beim 3:4 gegen Deutschland.

Am Rande des Confed-Cups hat der ungemein kopfballstarke Borgetti mehrfach sein Interesse geäußert, in die Bundesliga zu wechseln. «Aber ob das wirklich sportlich wie wirtschaftlich zu realisieren ist, muss man genau prüfen», sagt Funkel, aus dessen Sicht Borgetti «natürlich ein sehr guter Spieler ist.»

Derweil ist klar, dass der griechische Nationalspieler Ioannis Amanatidis spätestens zum 1. Juli 2006 vom 1. FC Kaiserslautern zur Eintracht zurückkehrt. Wie Bruchhagen am Sonntag bestätigte, sei er sich mit seinem FCK-Kollegen Jäggi darüber einig geworden. Ob der Stürmer, der nach einem halben Jahr in Frankfurt und dem Eintracht-Abstieg 2004 in die Pfalz wechselte, bereits früher kommt, machte Bruchhagen von der Ablösesumme abhängig, die der FCK für den noch bis 2006 an Lautern gebundenen Torjäger fordert. Über die auf rund 1,5 Millionen Euro geschätzte Summe wollte sich der Eintracht-Chef nicht äußern.

Im ersten Trainingslager der Saison werden ab heute neue Stürmer (abgesehen vom längst verpflichteten Francisco Copado) jedenfalls nicht dabei sein. Im österreichischen Zillertal startete die Eintracht vor einem Jahr das Unternehmen Aufstieg. Da Fußballprofis wie Trainer durchaus abergläubig sind, kehren sie zurück, wenn der Erfolg eingekehrt ist. Und deshalb startet die Eintracht auch das Unternehmen Klassenerhalt im Zillertal. Wieder wird im Sport und Wellness-Hotel Theresa in Zell Quartier bezogen.

Und wieder wird Trainer Funkel seine Spieler nicht nur auf dem Sportplatz der kleinen Gemeinde unweit des Flüsschens Ziller auf Trab bringen, sondern auch andere Aktivitäten, wie beispielsweise Mountainbike fahren, einstreuen. In weiser Voraussicht hat Routinier Andree Wiedener für die diesjährigen Touren bei einem befreundeten Unternehmer bereits Helme geordert. «Sicher ist sicher», sagt der 35 Jahre alte Wiedener, der womöglich seine letzte Profi-Saison spielen wird.

23 Spieler hat Funkel am Sonntag mit auf die Busreise genommen. Es fehlen die verletzten Profis Alexander Schur, Jurica Puljiz und Nico Frommer sowie Marco Russ, der seinen Grundwehrdienst bei der Bundeswehr ableisten muss, und die U 20-Nationalspieler Christopher Reinhard, Alexander Huber und Daniyel Cimen, die noch Sonderurlaub genießen.

«Wir werden hart arbeiten», kündigte Funkel an. Die meisten Spieler wissen aus den Erfahrungen des letzten Jahres, was sie in den Tiroler Bergen erwarten wird. Willkommene Abwechslung für die Plackerei auf dem Platz, auf dem Rad und im Wald werden die ersten Testspiele sein. Am Mittwochabend trifft die Eintracht auf eine Amateurauswahl des Zillertals. Am Sonntag, auf der Rückfahrt nach Frankfurt, wartet dann Regionalligist FC Augsburg.

Frankfurt say they are interested in Borgetti and have talked to his advisor. However a transfer seems unlikely because he's "on another level financially".

hey Bayern fans, dont know if you guys have seen this but watch this video.

http://www.bezanberim.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=149

Even to you doubters Karimi is a bargain buy and he will do great things for
you next season.

hey Bayern fans, dont know if you guys have seen this but watch this video.

http://www.bezanberim.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=149

Even to you doubters Karimi is a bargain buy and he will do great things for
you next season.


I admire him for what he has done in that club and for his country but playing in European leagues is totally something new and hard to get adjusted so fast. I wouldn't be surprised if he struggled at first but I know he will turn out to be a good maybe great player in Bayern :)

I saw a different compilation of him and it wasn't as good as this one. He's got some amazing skills. He doesn't do the fancy step overs but uses his cuts very wisely. I like his inside-out cobra move towards the last 3rd of the clip. I'm looking forward to this guy. It was well worth getting him I think. :)

So are you saying that you want to sell Ballack? Who's gonna replace him eh?

No, I'm not saying that at all, I was saying that you were wrong when you said he was a humble player without an ego to match his talent. I don't want to sell Ballack, he's my favorite player and plays for my favorite club. If you had bothered to read any of my posts in the last 2 pages of the thread you would know that. I think I even jokingly said that if I had to kidnap his family and hold them hostage to keep Ballack at Bayern until he was 35 I would.

Yeh, the videos pretty good, he cuts and weaves through the defense a ton. Speaking of the video, whats the second song that plays?I know the first one is Blur - Song 2, but I want that 2nd one.

I know people will get offended but what the hell. Anyways, I think Karimi is an overrated (by iranians) ball dribbler that will have a hard time adjusting to european defenders. But for the sake of Bayern, I hope he proves me wrong.
Personally, i'm looking forward more to see Podolski than Karimi in the near future.

Podolski is close to extend his contract with Cologne which means 10-15 M are not enough, probably the double amount of that.

Knowing the club's transfer politics there's no way we're gonna spend anything above 20 M for a player.

Maybe Bayern and German teams can't win because they're not willing to bring in big players from overseas and they won't spend over 20 milion. You don't want to end up like Real Madrid but you still need big stars to win big tournaments.

Dortmund did it, bought Rosicky, Koller, Ewerthon, Kehl, Lehamnn etc. for a sh*tload of money. Look what happened to them.

Maybe Bayern and German teams can't win
Can't win what?

you still need big stars to win big tournaments.No.

2005: CSKA (Uefa Cup)
2004: Porto (CL) and Greece (EURO)

No.


2004: Porto (CL)

Carvalho, Paulo Ferreria, Costinha, Deco, Benni McCarthy, Maniche :(

some of them are stars :(

Not back than. They were a bunch of nobodies. And Costinha, Benni and Maniche aren't stars even today.

I know people will get offended but what the hell. Anyways, I think Karimi is an overrated (by iranians) ball dribbler that will have a hard time adjusting to european defenders. But for the sake of Bayern, I hope he proves me wrong.
Personally, i'm looking forward more to see Podolski than Karimi in the near future.

How can you blame us though Iran has not seen a player like him in a long time perhaps ever, and well we just want to put in a good word for him. I agree with you though I want to him to see more exposure to European defenders. In the video he does dribble past the likes of Ballack,Dellas, and Mexes. Bayern fans this guy is no Daei or Hashemian.

Go Karimi !

Carvalho, Paulo Ferreria, Costinha, Deco, Benni McCarthy, Maniche :(

some of them are stars :(
What a bunch of superstars...not. Bayern has enough "big names" to make some noise on the European stage.

How can you blame us though Iran has not seen a player like him in a long time perhaps ever, and well we just want to put in a good word for him. I agree with you though I want to him to see more exposure to European defenders. In the video he does dribble past the likes of Ballack,Dellas, and Mexes. Bayern fans this guy is no Daei or Hashemian.

Go Karimi !
Hashemian scored 16 goals and assisted another 7 the season before he came to Bayern. This guy is a decent player who proved that he can play in Europe. Most of Karimi's tricks were against crap teams, third division level at best.

I hope he does well, a player that can play right behind the strikers and can feed them is what we need.

Not back than. They were a bunch of nobodies. And Costinha, Benni and Maniche aren't stars even today.

i said some, i just mentioned other decent players (H)

and shut the f*ck up vince :( I didn't say they were superstars. Anyway, half of them would walk into the bayern team (H)

Carvalho and Deco


all would play for Man Utd except for Benni :p

How come none of you are mentioning the friendlies Bayern played. They beat Wurzburg I think 4-2. Came back and scored 3 goals in the last 10 minutes or something. Salihamidzic got 2 I believe.

They also raped some poor team about 14-1 and another side 11-0 if I remember right. :ewan:

Apparently Man Yoo offered €20 M for Ballack. Add a bit and we have a deal. :ewan:

I'd sell him for 20, and get Aimar for 25 or D'alessandro for 15. :ewan:
The Karimi saga is not going to be different from Hashemian. He is a good dribler but hell even my mother can drible deffenders in Iran or Saudi Arabia or whatever he was playing before.
And than why are we even talking about Porto? It's not time to fall asleep yet. :(

I wouldn't buy a new player. Deisler, Karimi, Schweinsteiger, Ze, Scholl can all play his role.

Aimar is too injury prone and 25 M? nah. We could get D'Alessandro for under 10 M but he's a team cancer.

You can't compare Karimi's situation to Hashemian. Vahid was never given a chance, he was the fourth striker. Karimi was bought on purpose, if he pans out he can strenghten our game. Magath already stated that he has plans with Karimi.

I know it's a stupid idea but what abot Tevez? He is not a midfielder though. :boohoo:

Than Deisler in the center? Not considering his fragile mental health no i wouldnt give him that much of responsability. Plus he is a fine crosser we need him on the side of the field

Scholl? he is 35 and always broken.

Schweinny might be an option for it but still somehow i see him better in the right side.

Ze? This is FC Bayern Munchen not Brazil.

Tevez?Ehhh..perhaps. Scholl would get beaten up, I think we should put basti in there. Your avatar is fantastic btw.

I don't know what you all are thinking? Oh wow... look someone offered 20 million for Ballack, let's sell him! WTF? He's probably our main player and you want him out that easily? You want Aimar to replace him and you'd add 5 million on top of Ballack to get him? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, honestly. Aimar isn't even close to being on Ballacks level. Yes, he's good but not that good. That's why you barely hear of him nowadays. And D'Allesandro isn't ****. He's a little tosser that would be knocked around the pitch. If you plan on getting rid of Ballack, you better look into a player like Gerrard or Lampard because he is almost on their level, if not already. Bayern doesn't need to go down in their strength of players, so why get rid of Ballack? If you are going to give him the boot and take the 20 million, you better have a top center mid to replace him if we want to win the CL.

I know that Aimar isn't on the level of Ballack in many ways, but he is far superior to him in many ways as well. Aimar is perhaps the BEST PLAYMAKER IN THE WORLD. I feel very strongly about that, Pablo Aimar might be the best playmaker in the world. I don't want to sell Ballack, but I wouldn't mind if Aimar was his replacement. He seems like a realistic option and is probably the first realistic option I have heard to replace Ballack that I actually don't mind.

But that being said, Ballack is worth more than that and we shouldn't just sell him for the sake of selling him. Make it 30 million, or like 20 million british pound sterling and then we'll talk.

It would make sense to sell Ballack if we can get Aimar plus another 10 million to use for someone else. But it's not worth selling Ballack and paying another 5 million just to get Aimar. Aimar is very bad defensively and I don't think he is at his peak as he was 2-3 years ago. Also, you don't even know how he would handle the Bundesliga. Spain's league is a bit more about finesse and skill compared to the Bundesliga. In conclusion, it's not worth putting up the risk unless you can get Aimar and another 10 million on top of that.

My favourite would be his countryman Riquelme. A classic effective playmaker.


I don't know what you all are thinking? Oh wow... look someone offered 20 million for Ballack, let's sell him! WTF? He's probably our main player and you want him out that easily?
The alternative is letting him go for free next year so getting 20, 25 million now is the best option.

He turns 29 later this year, a good chance to give younger players a chance. Deisler has the skills to play as a center midfielder. We haven't seen this guy's full potential yet .

Let Ballack sign a contract extension with us for another 2-5 years. He's easily got that left in him. I wouldn't make Deisler "the" man just yet. He's still recovering and getting back into the swing of things. Maybe at the end of next season.

Let Ballack sign a contract extension with us for another 2-5 years.
What do you think the Bayern officials are trying to do since the end of last season? If he rejects the €40M for 4 years deal sell him NOW.

Man when i see Ballack there i really understand what Effenberg was for us. 20 million is a fair offer for Ballack and if i was going to be Beckenbauer i would have sold him by now.
Riquelme? Man ive never seen a more inconsistent type of 'star'. If he was that great how come he is not playing at Barca?
Aimar is pure class, he can jump defenders with a confidence few players have. I don't want to sell Ballack and have Karimi direct our attacking, that would be plain sad.
Hleb is another option but honestly how can he handle the pressure of plaing the CL as well?
Teves was our option last year, i m watchin Corinthias - Palmerias on Fox Soccer Chanel and the kid is pure class.

Having Frings gone and selling Ballack would make our midlfied deffinitively weaker and a prominent name is a must.

Hleb was sold to Arsenal a few days back.

Van der Vaart might be an option in the longrun if he pans out at Hamburg. Man I still can't believe they got him for 5 million.

I was about to post it
Options are:
Sell Ballack now and get eather Aimar or Sneider.

Let Ballack go next season and pay 20 + million to get Van Der Vart.

More economical the first one, eather way van der vart will end up with us if he finds his top form.

Sneider needs a few more years of seasoning at Ajax before I'd consider him, but VdV is good and has been the captain in Amsterdam since he was like 17. If he gets his head back on straight he'd be a good option, but Aimar is just amazing. I love that guy.

Sneijder :(

What Coon said was pretty true. Bayern is a side that wants to compete for the CL title boys and you don't just let Ballack go to do that. If Gerrard is worth 50 million pounds then Ballack is worth above 40 million and Ballack is better then Gerrard anyways. Steven Gerrard is now just used to hammering balls around at Liverpool. Sell Ballack and there goes your hopes of winning the CL. Sneijder or Aimar aren't as good and you can't use the "two good players are better then one great one" saying.

Ballack is not better than Gerrard. Sure Gerrard is overrated (and also not worth his pricetag), but still, Ballack is a long loong way from being worth 40+ million pounds.

Gerrard is worth 40 + Million pounds because he's your typical overrated/overhyped English player.

Ballack is worth half of that because of age and contract.

And hereby I represent Ali Karimi:

http://www.dxbcamp.com/haitham/Karimi_Miracle.wmv

One Word: AMAZING

And hereby I represent Ali Karimi:

http://www.dxbcamp.com/haitham/Karimi_Miracle.wmv

One Word: AMAZING

:rolleyes:

Anyways, does anybody have any video of that 19-0 pounding that Bayern gave that little team in that warm-up game?

:lui:

Goals: Guerrero (4), Makaay (4), Pizarro (3), Hargreaves (2), Santa Cruz (2), Scholl, Salihamidzic, Ismael, one own-goal

It should be available on the pay-thingy shortly, Awax has access to it.

19-0, that is absolutely ridiculous.

What Coon said was pretty true. Bayern is a side that wants to compete for the CL title boys and you don't just let Ballack go to do that. If Gerrard is worth 50 million pounds then Ballack is worth above 40 million and Ballack is better then Gerrard anyways. Steven Gerrard is now just used to hammering balls around at Liverpool. Sell Ballack and there goes your hopes of winning the CL. Sneijder or Aimar aren't as good and you can't use the "two good players are better then one great one" saying.

What are you talking about!!???!?!!? Aimar led a much less talented Valencia team to two straight Champions League Final games. Ballack has only been in one in his career (actually zero because he was suspended for the game just like every important game). In addition River Plate were untouchable with Aimar there, I think they were always winning the title over Riquelme and Boca. Pablo Aimar has proven himself to be an elite playmaker and while he isn't going to head anything in the net like Ballack, he is going to create infinitely more goals.

He came to Valencia in the 2002/03 season, long after their two CL finals. Mendieta and Claudio Lopez were the main guys back then.

Ballack didn´t miss the championsleague final....
he missed the world cup final...

The only thing standing in Aimar's way from greatness is injuries. Also I think he should leave Valencia. ;)

Ballack didn´t miss the championsleague final....
he missed the world cup final...

I'm pretty sure he missed both of them.

http://www.wdr.de/themen/_images_/images/1/sport/fussballspiel/spielszene2_gq.jpg

Ok fair enough. You know, I just love how a German team did better than us in Europe, so we went out and bought their three best players within the year. Now that's the Bayern Munchen that I love!

On the one hand I was happy that we acquired Ballack, Lucio and Ze (Kovac a bit earlier) but I on the other hand was a bit sad to see this team falling apart. They played amazing football and were competitive in Europe.

Yeah, I felt bad for Leverkusen. :(

They just fell apart after that.

Well you take out their core players of course they will underperform. Curious is the fact that after we bought their best players we never saw the CL final ever again.
And yeah Aimar was never part of the 2 straight year finalist Valencia of Cuper. Mendieta, Gerard, Farinos, Kily and Lopez were the top guns of that Valencia.
We miss this guy. :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1490000/images/_1494882_stefan300.jpg

effenberg (:/)

And hereby I represent Ali Karimi:

http://www.dxbcamp.com/haitham/Karimi_Miracle.wmv

One Word: AMAZING

hehe sorry bro but even I have to admit thats way over the top. Karimi is awesome but a miracle ! Arab defenders are pretty ****ty look how Karimi taps the ball between his legs and it takes 10 secs for the defender to realize it.

hehe sorry bro but even I have to admit thats way over the top. Karimi is awesome but a miracle ! Arab defenders are pretty ****ty look how Karimi taps the ball between his legs and it takes 10 secs for the defender to realize it.

Yea man, but he is the only one who can do like this in the arab league.. it shows that he does not belong there and that his level is way high from them.. :ewan:

All in all, I really digged that video! Karimi Shireh!

With four weeks still remaining before the new campaign, the Bayern ticket office has announced a new record. As of Monday, the club had sold some 35,000 season tickets for home Bundesliga matches in 2005-6, an increase of 13,000 over the figure for the last campaign at the Olympic stadium. Some 75 percent of all season-ticket applicants accepted the option on reserving their seats for home Champions League matches. The new season tickets will be dispatched as of 25 July.

No further applications for season tickets will be accepted, as the club wishes to retain a reasonable supply of seats for sale to fans and members on a match-by-match basis.

Last season's double winners have also announced that the first two home matches, against Monchengladbach on 5 August and Hertha Berlin on 27 August, sold out on the first day of general ticket sales. Only a few thousand seats remain for the games against Hanover ont 17 or 18 September, and Wolfsburg on 2 or 3 October, which coincide with the world-famous Oktoberfest.


Magath: It'll be a little bumpy to start with

Michael Ballack and the remaining six Confederations Cup participants are not due back from vacation until 20 July. These players will be ordered through a short, sharp basic fitness routine. "But there's no way we'll get them to peak form in the 14 days before the first match of the season," Magath acknowledged, warning of the need for a period of running-in during August. "It'll be a little bumpy to start with," he declared.

However, with the start of Champions League hostilities in mid-September, Magath expects all his players to have reached peak form. "That's when it really gets going for us," he remarked.

Bayern's summer programme

28 May: DFB German Cup final against Schalke 04 in Berlin
31 May: Allianz Arena inaugural match against a Germany XI
2 June: First city derby at the Allianz Arena against TSV 1860 Munich
3 June: Start of official summer vacation
2 July: Players report back; friendly against SV 1880 Munich
3 July: First training camp in Rottach Egern (until 8 July)
6 July: Friendly in Rottach
9 July: Friendly in Würzburg
10 July: Friendly in Grafenwöhr
13 July: Friendly in Dessau
17 July: Friendly against Karlsruher SC
18 July: Second training camp in Bonn (until 23 July)
26 July: League Cup semi-final featuring Bayern (8.30 pm, Allianz Arena)
28 July: Friendly in Tokyo against FC Tokyo
30 July: Friendly in Tokyo against Yubilo Iwata
5 August: 2005-6 Bundesliga season opens with Bayern v Monchengladbach (8.30 pm, Allianz Arena - SOLD OUT)

Friendly in Dessau today...
9-0.
Makaay 3
Guerrero 3
Salihamidzic
Ismael 2

Bayern's summer programme

28 May: DFB German Cup final against Schalke 04 in Berlin
31 May: Allianz Arena inaugural match against a Germany XI
2 June: First city derby at the Allianz Arena against TSV 1860 Munich
3 June: Start of official summer vacation
2 July: Players report back; friendly against SV 1880 Munich
3 July: First training camp in Rottach Egern (until 8 July)
6 July: Friendly in Rottach
9 July: Friendly in Würzburg
10 July: Friendly in Grafenwöhr
13 July: Friendly in Dessau
17 July: Friendly against Karlsruher SC
18 July: Second training camp in Bonn (until 23 July)
26 July: League Cup semi-final featuring Bayern (8.30 pm, Allianz Arena)
28 July: Friendly in Tokyo against FC Tokyo
30 July: Friendly in Tokyo against Yubilo Iwata
5 August: 2005-6 Bundesliga season opens with Bayern v Monchengladbach (8.30 pm, Allianz Arena - SOLD OUT)
8 (?) August: Friendly versus Legia... as I know

SV Dessau 1-10 Bayern (H-T: 1-4)

Bayern Munich: Rensing - Sagnol, Jeremies (Mauersberger 46), Ismael, Lizarazu - Hargreaves, Karimi (Ottl 46), Salihamidzic (Rau 46), Scholl - Makaay, Santa Cruz

Attendance: 15,500

Goals: Makaay (4), Santa Cruz (4), Scholl (2)

I hope Roque keeps up his scoring touch. The more strikers who can finish the better. :)

One question: In this race for an emergency replacement for Ballack in case he leaves, why are we not looking at Schalke's Lincoln? :ewan:

Lincoln is not that consistant, and Schalke will not sell him to Bayern. If we get alot of money for Ballack, we should go after Julio Baptista. But he doesnt want to leave Spain.

Oh man, Baptista would be cool! But I don't really see that happening.

Since Madrid have lost their interest in Ballack I don't see him leaving. Man United or Arsenal would not be much of a step up in his career.

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/3753200

A link to a site saying that Ballack looks set to sign a new deal for Bayern now. It's not certain of course but if it is, then smart move Michael. In truth, I think that Bayern is better for him then Manchester United who he was also rumoured to be going to but maybe he would've liked a move to Chelsea.

Has the Persian Maradona played a game for you guys yet?

Yeah he's a regular in the preparation games.

How is he performing so far?


http://www.dxbcamp.com/haitham/Karimi_Miracle.wmv

You can't really judge him based on games vs. sucky ass teams Bayern win by double digits.

He creates goals, scores but lacks the needed stamina. He often looks tired after an hour.

I found a 2 minutes video of the game Bayern vs. the German nt, the first game at the Allianz Arena. German audio but that's less important than the footage.

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/inhalt/28/0,4070,2306300-6-wm_dsl,00.html

Sweet :rockman:
As far as Karimi goes, well even Hashemian was scoring a lot in last years preseason if im not wrong. Look what happened to him. I'm glad Ballack is staying with us. I bought Bayerns new jersey with him on it and it would suck to see it go on waste.

And hereby I represent Ali Karimi:

http://www.dxbcamp.com/haitham/Karimi_Miracle.wmv

One Word: AMAZING
he is the best

I gotta say only for the sake of getting new fans in Asia the Karimi deal already paned out.

Have faith in the guy he's not just a marketing tool.

Anyways moving aside from Karim to a new topic, If Ballack did move who would you buy as a replacement? I would go for Junihno Permanabucano(spelling ?)

It depends on the money we'd get I guess but I'm against buying a replacement.

The only players that could replace him from the Bundesliga are Schalke's Lincoln and Hertha's Marcelinho and both are key players to their clubs so we're not gonna get them.

The way Santa Cruz plays at the moment it would be worth a try to play Pizarro behind the strikers.

I don't know why you want to purchase within the Bundesliga, because they are proven in this league? Even though they aren't proven I think Juninho Pern... and Aimar would do better than any other player on any other german team. I like the Juninho suggestion, but I really really don't think Lyon would sell him. Hell, they won't sell Essien to Chelsea.

It's quite easy, because we don't pay ridiculous sums to get players from the other top leagues and most are not attracted by the Bundesliga anyway.

It was one hell of a bitchfight to get Makaay here and our officials are not gonna talk to these corrupted Spanish/Italian clubs again.

I have my doubts about a player like Aimar doing well in Germany. Look at D'Alessandro, he was supposed to be the next coming but he's nothing special at Wolfsburg.

Nimreitz, you're right. Bundesliga clubs should really think about buying outside of Germany. I'm sure that they can snatch some good talent off all of the divisions in England and East Europe has good talent now as well.

Well, I don't think there are really Italians, Spainards, or Englishmen interested in comming to Germany. But there are people from different countries playing in those leagues who would be happy to come. Germany probably has the most Eastern Europeans than any major European league, so we've done well in that regard.

I read some article on soccernet on how they want to bring more money in so that the clubs can afford to buy players from other teams. That includes things like raising ticket prices and PPV.

Yeh, it would be a great idea to do that IMO.

Nah it would not be great to raise the ticket prices :| I just bought 2 tickets combined for €40 which is a great price.

so that the clubs can afford to buy players from other teams.
What the heck do you mean by that, all players on the team except Schweini and Owen have been bought from other teams. The club has enough money to fill in the needs.

The other Bundesliga clubs need more money so that they can buy more attractive players.

Middlesbrough are reported to have failed with a bid for Bayern Munich's Owen Hargreaves.

The Teessiders are anxiously scouring the transfer market for new recruits, with midfielders particularly high on Steve McClaren's wanted list.

The likes of Nicky Butt, Damian Francis, Jason Euell, Salif Diao, Stephan Appiah, Edgar Davids and Andy van der Meyde have all been linked at some point this summer.

McClaren has also seen Boudewijn Zenden quit the club in order to join Liverpool, meaning his options on the left and in the middle are not great.

Hargreaves, whose versatility is no doubt one aspect that appeals to McClaren, has now decided a move to The Riverside is not for him at this point in his career.

One reason the Canadian-born star shunned Boro - according to German sources - was that he does not want to hamper his chances of making England's squad for the World Cup next summer.

Also Hargreaves has just one year left on his current deal, and while Bayern are trying to tie him down, he realises he could move for nothing next summer.

Bayern coach Felix Magath is understood to have played a major part in persuading Hargreaves to remain at the Allianz Arena.

"It is better to play here than just somewhere in the English league," said Magath.

"If Owen is here and plays in the Champions League his World Cup chances will improve."

Oh crap we could have gotten a few millions instead this mother****er will probably leave for free next year.

I think we should resign Hargreaves. He's great cover in case of an injury. If he doesn't mind being a career backup on one of the best teams in the world, let's keep him.

It pisses me off to see Olli Kahn always yelling at him. I think that he's a great player-more valuable then Guerrero, Karimi, and he's better then Scholl right now anyways.

I'm sure the fact that your Canadian has no effect on your opinion.

I think that he's a great player-more valuable then Guerrero, Karimi

That's not saying much.

Besides, Guerrero is still fairly young/on the rise, whilst Karimi hasn't shown what he's fully capable of yet.

You forget that if Ballack gets trasnfered/traded, and Scholl or whoever gets injured, there's gonna be a central midfielder needed.

Karimi, Deisler, Schweinsteiger and Ze Roberto can all play in the middle.

I think that he's a great player-more valuable then Guerrero, Karimi, and he's better then Scholl right now anyways.
What the hell :| You haven't even seen Karimi play so you can't judge him. Guerrero is only 21 and already a great finisher. He has to work on other aspects of the game then he will become a good striker.

Here are the highlights of the Bayern vs. Karlsruhe game from yesterday. It ended 3-3, Scholl, Brazzo and Karimi were the scorers.

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=212VKU36QJ83G3A69HKMCBJX9S

Bayern fans - what do you think about Ballack saying he want to play for a major european club like man utd , i thought bayern were a major europeam club ?

I very much think Bayern is a major European club, I have no clue wtf he is thinking. He prob. wants to go to a team full of major stars.

Bayern fans - what do you think about Ballack saying he want to play for a major european club like man utd , i thought bayern were a major europeam club ?

I don't think he's implying that Bayern isnt a "big" club. Ballack just wants out, thats all... he knows he's getting old and he's not going to make more money staying at Bayern, and that's where England comes. He know's that in England they pay alot more money... so its basically about the money.
I say Bayern should just sell his a$$ and make him happy. I mean, why keep a player that doesnt want to stay?

He wants more money. That's all.

The whole Man Yoo story is made up by some newspapers. The best shot they have at winning a trophy will be the Carling Cup.

I He know's that in England they pay alot more money... so its basically about the money.
I say Bayern should just sell his a$$ and make him happy. I mean, why keep a player that doesnt want to stay?

How much does Ballack earn at the moment , if he joined Man Utd he would probably get between £80000 and £90000 a week.

€6M per year

Speaking of which, vince, how much is Pizarro making a year? Also, Guerrero signed his contracts last year, how much is he making now a year?

It's hard to say since most players salaries are not official but pure speculations. For Pizarro I read something in the 2,5 - 3 M range. Guerrero about 1,5 M is my guess.

Bayern Munich midfielder Michael Ballack has intimated he's ready to join Manchester United.

Old Trafford boss Alex Ferguson is preparing a £12million bid for the Bayern Munich midfielder.

United and Bayern will both be in Tokyo on July 27 so the clubs could thrash out a deal.

Ballack, 28, has refused a new contract and said: "The time has arrived for me to play for a great European club."
For a great European club where he's not gonna win sh*t. (C)

€18M is not too bad for a 29 year old, a bit more than Arsenal got for Vieira.

I think Real Madrid might try to jump in on this deal if Man. Utd. doesn't complete it soon. ;)

Someone tell Roman that ManU are after Ballack. He'd double the offer. :evil:

Someone tell Roman that ManU are after Ballack. He'd double the offer. :evil:



I hope Ballack plays intill 31 in a different club and comes back to Bayern to finish his career. That I can respect

18M Euros for a superstar seems like we're getting stiffed because we're from Germany. Figo and Zidane were the same ages when Real Madrid bought them, and while i'm not expecting 70M for him, we should get more than 18.

Figo was a year younger.

Times have changed,the big teams can't spend ridiculous transfer fees anymore except Chelsea.

I think Vieira is a good comparison. Both are the same age and were on the last year of their contract. If we get a bit more for Ballack it's not that bad of a deal.

You can't forget Ballack's wages are the second highest in the team.

We don't need a replacement for Ballack imo. Every position is covered by two players. Another young CB would be nice.

---------------------- Kahn / Rensing -------

-- Sagnol/ Görlitz -- Lucio -- Ismael / Demichelis -- Lahm / Lizarazu

--------------- Demichelis / Hargreaves / Jeremies ---------------------

-- Deisler / Brazzo ----------------------------- Schweinsteiger / Ze Roberto

----------------------- Scholl / Karimi ----------------

--------- Makaay / Guerrero ------- Pizarro / Santa Cruz

Oh come on, Scholl/Karimi is solid? What happens if Scholl gets injured again and Karimi can't handle the Bundesliga? I realize Deisler and Ze can play there, but I think a replacement will be needed.

Man footballers make more then 6 million pounds per year. If only the NHL had that kind of money.

Anyways, if it's trophies he wants, then it'd be stupid for him to go to Manchester or Madrid.

Whenever Scholl played he made the difference. I trust in Magath's coaching abilities, Karimi will adapt.

Let's be realistic, we're not gonna get a replacement that would really help us and strenghten the team. It's too late for that, most deals are being done during March and June.

Man footballers make more then 6 million pounds per year. If only the NHL had that kind of money.

Ballack gets 6 million € which is a bit less than 6 million pounds.

Inter is now interested in Willy Sagnol :)

Inter can f*ck off. He's not for sale.

Besides that, I'm sure he doesn't want his career to go downhill.

If only we had that damn prestige in Germany with the media that they do in Italy and Spain. Look at Real Madrid-not exactly better then Bayern but players would rather go there then to Munich even if Bayern can pay them as much as Real Madrid.

By the way, what the hell does "So wie einst Real Madrid" mean. I asked my dad since he speaks German but it what he said didn't sound like a proper English grammar sentence.

from what i've gathered, Bayern doesnt want to pay them as much as Real Madrid, or other big teams.
And the Bundesliga just doesnt seem attractive to most foreign players.

And the Bundesliga just doesnt seem attractive to most foreign players.

Please, the level of "attractiveness" is not the case, it has nothing to do with that. It all goes back to money and the wage factor.

By the way, what the hell does "So wie einst Real Madrid" mean. I asked my dad since he speaks German but it what he said didn't sound like a proper English grammar sentence.
I would translate it as "Just like/How Real Madrid was once."

Man footballers make more then 6 million pounds per year. If only the NHL had that kind of money.

Can you please just spend two seconds googling your facts before you post? 36 NHL players made over $6 million in the 03/04 season.

Yeah but that isn't happening again is it.

Yeah but that isn't happening again is it.

Considering its the 4 sport in the states after NBA, MLB and NFL is way ahead of soccer...i mean soccer in Europe...Averagely a player can get 1.5-3 million if he is very good and few make more than that...So i would definitively say that sport in USA is overpaid....

And if it going to happen or not again, that is not up to your competency to determine.


O yeah back to the topic

Ballack OUT ----> Aimar IN
:rockman:

Ballack after his training today:

It's my aim to play at Bayern until 2006. There will be challenges I don't want to miss. A contract extension is a good possibility.

Dynamo Moskva want to pay €35-40 M :|

I also read that we are interested in Guti and Mwaruwari (striker, Auxerre).

Dynamo Moskva?
Honestly for that much money i would sell anyone. Even though i doubt Ballack will go play in Moscow especially in the season before the world cup.
Guti is not a bad option.

Some quotes from Bayern-chairman Rummenigge.

"Ballack has a contract until June 30th 2006. There's no way we'll let him go earlier - I repeat - no way.“

"We won't do a transfer that hurts accomplishing our goals but brings us in a better financial situation. The financial status of the club is very good.“

"There's no doubt that Munich is a nicer city than Manchester.“

"He would have to start from scratch concerning his commercial deals."

Ballack makes Bayern vow (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=292957&cpid=22&CLID=&lid=9&title=Ballack+makes+Bayern+vow&channel=germany) :rockman:

Don't ship Michael to Moscow (although what could we do with 40M? I'm drooling at the possibilities), he's the face of our team after Kahn.

Wow, no faith in your players. A guy who can win games for a team and you just want to let him go without a fight? If Bayern was in a bad financial situation then I'd understand why they want to sell him but in a good financial situation, I can't see why you'd sell Ballack. No confidence in the team at all is what the problem here is I'd say.

Bonn 2-4 Bayern Karimi, Ballack, Guerrero and an og by some unknown player

Karimi showed his skills. He was comfortable with the ball like no other player on the field and made a nice header to score. I didn't know that guy is good at heading the ball, too. :)

Wow, no faith in your players. A guy who can win games for a team and you just want to let him go without a fight? If Bayern was in a bad financial situation then I'd understand why they want to sell him but in a good financial situation, I can't see why you'd sell Ballack. No confidence in the team at all is what the problem here is I'd say.

That's rediculous, no one has more faith in Ballack and Bayern Munich than me and the rest of the Bayern fans here.

ballack should leave, dont know why german players are so loyal to their own league

They aren't, Bayern buys up all the best players :)

But when it comes to Bayern, there really aren't many better clubs in the world. Unless you're leaving for ManU, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, or Juve it's a step down. And honestly, Man U and Barca are probably under us too, but their reputation far exceeds their recent accomplishments. Barca's getting better though.

Chelsea is just hoarding all the players they can get their hands on.

ballack should leave, dont know why german players are so loyal to their own league

*Rooney European Player of the Year 2006!*

He should leave for Man Yoo and play together with the future European player of the year I guess hahahttp://www.realgm.com/boards/images/smiles/rofl.gif

Considering its the 4 sport in the states after NBA, MLB and NFL is way ahead of soccer...i mean soccer in Europe...Averagely a player can get 1.5-3 million if he is very good and few make more than that...So i would definitively say that sport in USA is overpaid....

And if it going to happen or not again, that is not up to your competency to determine.


O yeah back to the topic

Ballack OUT ----> Aimar IN
:rockman:

Thats true but someone like Ronaldinho is being offered £400,000 pounds a month for the next nine years by Barcelona!!!!
As for Ballack the place is United not -20 degrees in Moscow!!!! Munich a nicer city than Manchester? I'm a man u fan and i've been to Manchester and been to Hamburg and so on i would say most likely!!...

Yeah dude, Manchester is not a nice/beautiful city. Munich is a fantastic place. If I was confident in my German speaking and ability to succeed in a career there, I'd probably be on a plane right now.

Munich is definitely the nicest of the big 3 German cities.

O well i had it with this rumors, cant wait to see some real Bayern action. I mean i cant wait till the Bundesliga starts and i hope FOx Soccer Chanel shows more games. Its definitively worth it.

Tuesday starts the league cup vs. Hertha at the Allianz Arena. Yaaay

So I was browsing through the man Yoo forum and found this. Pure gold

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9914/ballack8mj.png

for Pizarro14 who wanted pics of Kovac in a Juve jersey.

here's Kovac playing:
http://www.juventus.com/FE_images/fotogallery/voghera_juve_gall/zoom/16.jpg

here's Kovac where you'll see him most of the time:
http://www.juventus.com/FE_images/fotogallery/voghera_juve_gall/zoom/22.jpg

OFFICIAL: Bayern will play friendly match with Legia... yuppie! :)
http://legia.com/