http://img206.echo.cx/img206/1796/9148bab73zi.jpg


When you walk through a storm

Hold your head up high

And don't be afraid of the dark

At the end of the storm

There's a golden sky

And the sweet silver

Song of a lark.

Walk on through the wind

Walk on through the rain

Though your dreams

Be tossed and blown

Walk on

Walk on

With hope in your hearts

And you'll never walk alone

You'll never walk alone.

Walk on

Walk on

Brilliant

*Champions of Europe*
http://img201.echo.cx/img201/3404/lfcscottbarbour3ym.jpg

Benitez to ring in the changes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4585401.stm)

I' d like to see Dudek stay..same with Hamann although the German is most likely on his way out. :(

hammman is gone to bolton

Has this situation been updated (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=279244&CPID=8&CLID=30&lid=&title=Hamann+denies+Bolton+deal&channel=Premiership)

This was released on the 24th so unless things have changed since then.................

Didnt even realise hes been linked with Bolton, I heard hes back off to Germany as far as I've seen. Playing for Hamburg

We have just offered Hamann a new contract, with improved terms. Personally I want him to retire with us, so here's hoping he'll stay. Not as first choice but as backup and as an example to the younger lads, he's priceless.

....I want him to retire with us......

me too

Sir Clive Woodward praises MAGIC RAFA (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N148963050527-1625.htm)

...as an example to the younger lads...

Disclaimer! >> Not in the way he giz a toke on that bifter like!










Ah ****, he can smoke himself to the heavens for all he wants, LEGEND!
:jambo:

Oh that Champions of Europe looks good at the thread name. (H)

Here is a verry fine liverpool champions league champions wallpaper:

http://home.no/mctoff/Makt.bmp

Nice! :hump:

The Hand of God resurfaces (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=280864&CPID=5&CLID=&lid=2&title=Dudek's+'Hand+of+God'&channel=Football_Home)

That was a crazy save.

I cannot stop smiling when I think of that night........

Fantastic first post! That picture will be a great welcoming, until next year that is, when there are 6 stars up there! (...... if uefa let us... please..?)

I think it would be absolutely ridiculous if UEFA weren't to let you Reds in it next year.

well done liverpool, the best team in europe :nape:

nah, seriously, well done :rockman:

£30 million available (http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/3645412)

I don't get it why are u guys trying to get rid of Milan Baros? Give him another season he'll do better

That will be up to Benitez. Baros is a hard worker but hasn' t scored as many as he should. Plus he' s been complaining a lot over the last few months. I think its just hard for Benitez to fit him in. But nothing' s finalised yet......

Benitez to ring in the changes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4585401.stm)

I' d like to see Dudek stay..same with Hamann although the German is most likely on his way out. :(
I like to see Dudek stay aswell but half of the squad is not good enough as finishing 36 points behind Chelsea shows in the away from home we have bein terrible.According to the offical website Rafa is gonna get 25 millon to spend on the squad in the summer.

This is who i like to see leave

Out:
Diouf
Kirkland (injury prone)
Diao
Smicer
Pellegrino
Mellor
Le Tallec
Kewell
Baros

RAFA: NEVER CALL ME THE SPECIAL ONE

Rafael Benitez has pleaded with Liverpool fans never to label him as 'the special one!

Despite leading his players to European Cup glory at the end of his first season as Liverpool manager, Benitez insists it's his staff and players who deserve most credit for the remarkable ending to one of the greatest seasons in the club's illustrious history.

Benitez himself doesn't covet the limelight like certain other managers and doesn't boast about his undoubted managerial abilities. :ewan: Indeed, he's already looking forward to next season and the possibility of bringing more silverware to Anfield.

He said: "As a manager you are important sometimes and you make mistakes, but the most important people are your staff and your players. Never call me the special one!

"I am one step closer to what the other managers achieved, that's all. I have to do a lot more before I am considered on the same level.

"Now it's important to build on this success. When you see the supporters and how the club works it is like a religion to them. We will try to do our best to bring more trophies back for them."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N148957050527-1022.htm

If Rafa never wins anything else, He will still always be a legend..

RAFA: NEVER CALL ME THE SPECIAL ONE Benitez himself doesn't covet the limelight like certain other managers and doesn't boast about his undoubted managerial abilities. :ewan: I
Haha that was a nice 1 (H). Yup.....you can call the domestic campaign a disaster but this season has to go down as being the best for liverpool in the past few years :rockman:

I need the penalty shootout clip from the AC milan - Liverpool final.

Baros Valencia bound? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4589291.stm)

He' s still not sure. I don' t think the final decision will be up to him though.

Baros is a strange one....On one hand i think he can be excellent....the next minute hes Sh1te...He can go as long as we get a good replacement.

Jerzy Dudek tribute clip (6)

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3923W93G7H4TM3A4M8RFV6BSJU

Thx milhalll for the clip.u made it?

No, it was made by the Polish TV station. They showed it right after the end of the match.

Do u people have the clip of both of the extra time . i need them.thx

http://rapidshare.de/files/2039407/milanpool.avi.html

that's the highlights i made for the ac milan vs liverpool match... gets kinda wierd in the middle of the pk shootout but everythin else is fine. enjoy

thx shadowofanubis6. :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

edit:I cant download it.It has too many people downloading it.Can u give me another link.

Tomorrows Guardian

Liverpool's chances of defending their Champions League title received a boost last night when senior figures at Uefa indicated a compromise could be reached to allow the Merseyside club into next season's competition.
A Uefa source said Liverpool would not be handed direct entry, but would probably have to play one qualifying round despite being champions. The sixteenth and final guaranteed place among the 32 teams who contest the group stage would go to Fenerbahçe as champions of Turkey, which as the tenth strongest country in Uefa is due one direct entrant.

'That would be the most reasonable solution, and would be unlikely to offend anybody,' said the official.
By the time Liverpool start their campaign in August they will have made several key changes to their playing squad. Rafael Benítez is resisting the temptation to rest on the laurels of Istanbul and is already preoccupied with the task of giving his European champions a new spine so they can mount a serious challenge next season to Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United in the Premiership. A goalkeeper, a central defender, one or two midfielders and at least one striker are his priorities, and some initial moves have been made to bring in the four, five or six players he wants.

Most intriguingly, Peter Crouch, the 6ft 7in Southampton striker who missed out on his England debut in Chicago last night because of an ankle injury, is on the list of top targets. Benítez is a keen admirer and sees Crouch as the type of forward who can get the better of Premiership defences - something Liverpool's present strikers managed too rarely last season. Benítez is undeterred that the 24-year-old has already played for six clubs and not yet established himself as a prolific marksman.

Sources close to Crouch last night indicated that the Macclesfield-born forward would relish a switch to Anfield. 'We're aware that Peter has caught Benítez's eye and that Liverpool and a number of other clubs are potentially interested in him, most in the Premiership but also some in Italy,' said one associ ate. 'If Liverpool made an offer I'm sure we could do a deal.'

Bolton, Manchester City, Blackburn and West Brom are among the other clubs keen on Crouch, who has just had his pay cut by 50 per cent after Southampton's relegation and is keen to move.

Liverpool are also keen on Feyenoord's free-scoring forward Dirk Kuyt to bolster a front line that will feature Djibril Cissé and Fernando Morientes, who will be free to play in Europe next season, having been ineligible after his £6.3 million move from Real Madrid in January. Dutchman Kuyt, 24, has scored 22 goals in 33 league games this season. Feyenoord's valuation of £10m may prove too much for Benítez, despite having a transfer kitty of some £25m.

Milan Baros is certain to leave Anfield, and the Czech Republic striker yesterday confirmed that Valencia were keen to sign him.

José Reina, the Villarreal goalkeeper, is likely to replace Jerzy Dudek, despite the Pole's match-winning performance last Wednesday. If Dudek returns to Feyenoord, his former club, as is rumoured, that could help facilitate Kuyt's arrival at Anfield.

Benítez may again raid the Spanish market he knows so well to give him greater competition for places in central defence beside Jamie Carragher and Sami Hyypia. Real Zaragoza's Argentine centre-half Gabriel Milito, valued at £6m, is his top target. Milito was due to join Real Madrid in 2003, but the move collapsed at the last minute because of a knee problem.

Midfield is Liverpool's most pressing area, though. Steven Gerrard has made the acquisition of at least one world-class midfielder a condition of committing his foreseeable future to Anfield.

Owen Hargreaves, who is keen to play in the Premiership to cement a place in the England squad for the 2006 World Cup, is likely to arrive from Bayern Munich. But he would not provide the width and penetration Benítez wants. That could pave the way for a move for Manchester City's Shaun Wright-Phillips.

From the Observer:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1494903,00.html
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So what if they didn't win the league? Hail champions with cheers, not jeers

A Champions League open to non-champions is vastly more difficult to win than old knockout cup - and critics should accept that, says Paul Wilson

Sunday May 29, 2005
The Observer

Purists and pedants alike are already busy revising the last few days of history. Liverpool might have thought they had just completed the greatest European Cup final comeback of all time, but even as the trophy goes into permanent residence at Anfield the achievement is being sniffed at because the new European Cup is not the old European Cup, the Champions League is no longer for champions and Rafael Benítez's players have yet to prove they are even the best team on Merseyside.

Some critics seem to want it both ways. The glaring fault of the old format was that although the competition was open only to champions, the champions of Spain, to pick an obvious example, would find it fairly straightforward to eliminate the champions of lesser leagues. To pine for that sort of elitism just because Liverpool could only reach fifth place in the Premiership this season seems ridiculous. In 1985, the last time Liverpool reached the final under the old system, they travelled to Brussels for their ill-fated meeting with Juventus by virtue of having disposed of Lech Poznan, Benfica, Austria Vienna and Panathinaikos. That was it. Four ties, eight legs, all against teams from lesser leagues, and Liverpool were in the final. No one carped at the time, yet now they are carping because Liverpool have managed to put out the champions of England and the top two teams in Serie A .
Nostalgia for the noble origins of the competition is permissible, just as memories of Alfredo di Stefano and Ferenc Puskás do not deserve to be dimmed just because television money and G14 greed have altered the original concept beyond all recognition. What needs to be acknowledged is that the European Cup as presently constructed is vastly more difficult to win than it used to be, precisely because it now contains all the leading teams from all the leading leagues in Europe. If you can stay the course and come out on top of that lot, especially if you happen to have turned round 3-0 down in the final, you ought to be greeted with cheers and not raspberries.

It is undeniable too, and this process has accelerated with the much-needed pruning of the second group stage within the last couple of years, that the competition has become more democratic. This is amazing considering the Champions League was specifically designed to preserve the status quo in Europe and to ensure the biggest clubs made the most money and enjoyed the best chance of success, but the trend established by Porto last season has now been followed by Liverpool in a competition that English clubs have played a major part in this season. Suddenly this is a competition any properly organised and ambitious team can win. With the greatest respect to Liverpool's history, this season they entered the contest as unfancied minnows, and finished it the most unlikely of giant-killers. This is the formula that makes the FA Cup so attractive, writ large across Europe.

In any sport, in any era, all a competitor can do is play by the the rules as they stand and beat the opponents presented. Liverpool did that, fair and square. In terms of determination, application and character their fifth European Cup is at least on a par with any of their previous four, and Benítez has proved an inspirational leader in a remarkably short time. End of story, except that by playing the rules as they presently stand Liverpool will find themselves excluded next season. Only an organisation as dim as Uefa could simultaneously invite non-champions into a Champions League while turning their back on real champions they have just travelled all the way to Istanbul to crown. Credibility has never been a Uefa strong point, but even by their standards it would be ludicrous to stand on ceremony now, just when their competition is more credible than ever.

thx shadowofanubis6. :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

edit:I cant download it.It has too many people downloading it.Can u give me another link.


That's very strange.... it should work, it works for me now...

Anubis this is what it wrote now.

You have requested the file milanpool.avi (28444672 Bytes). This file has been downloaded 1 times already.


IMPORTANT: Download-accelerators are only supported with a PREMIUM-Account!

You have requested 29710 KB in one hour. If you request a file and get a download-link, your download-counter is increased immediately.
This is neccessary in order to give you completely anonymous download-links without strong restrictions. We protect your privacy.
In order to finance this webspace, downloads are limited for free-users. This file exceeds your download-limit.
Please wait one hour. Or maybe you want to get a PREMIUM-Account, too? NO subscription! Instant access!

I'm downloading it right now, had no problems :). Maybe you should disable your download accelarator if u have 1.

I couldn' t give a damn what people say about not winning the Premier League......two years ago, Milan finished THIRD but won the CL and there was no such criticism. In fact, if they wana say this now then WHY NOT HAVE THE GUTS TO DO SO EVERYTIME IT HAPPENS? Jealous cowards........

It would be fine with me if they wanted to go back to a Champions ONLY Champions League but don' t tarnish a team' s acheivment simply because you cannot stand to see it finish lower in its league than you did in yours BUT STILL BEAT YOU in the head to head game.

We are the CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE NOT !!!!!!!!

We are the CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE NOT !!!!!!!!

:rockman:

it's been brilliant, I love just strolling down the street, wearing my Liverpool shirt, getting car horns, going up to chelsea shirt wearing people and yelling at them "UR SUPPORTING THE WRONG TEAM MATE!", it's lovely :)

fantastic! my liverpool shirt arrived 2 days after our chelsea win so I decided to wear it only in the final... I guess I'll start wearing it wednesday and saturdays during the new season...

But it looks increasibly likely that Rafael Benitez's side will be given a berth in the tournament at the expense of Fenerbahce, who will have to drop into the qualifying competition.

Liverpool will not be asked to pre-qualify, partly because that process clashes with Uefa's showpiece date for the Super Cup match between the Champions League winners and the Uefa victors, CSKA Moscow, in Monaco on 26 August.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4590899.stm

Direct qualification?! Wasn't expecting that.

Would we be in the top pot? I remeber Porto were, even though there coefficient was low

em, that kind of sucks. if they were to make it to the CL, they should go through all three rounds of pre-qualification. taking someone elses spot just like that isnt exactly a good move. if it was the FA's decision, to take one of the english teams out, to put Pool in, ok, even though i dont approve of it, the FA can decide so, but this is a whole other country thats going to get screwed.

Yeah, I think we should qualify for it, maybe enter the third qualifying round... I dunno... what if some team from a country with 3 places won, and they didn't get top three in the league, where would they be entered?

There should just be a rule put in place that says that the champion should automatically be allowed to defend their trophy, meaning they should be put straight in the groups w/o qualification, no matter what place they finish in their domestic league. I think it would be absolutely proposterous if Liverpool won't be given the chance to defend their win.

Oh yeah and which team should give their place to Liverpool? :nape:

Looks like Hamann will stay at Anfield (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281524&lid=3&cpid=8&title=Hamann+wants+Reds+stay&channel=Premiership)

On his day, he can be brilliant. Now Rafa, go get that chap Reina from Villareal.

we should dedicate the champions league win to that guy fh_29 like

Looks like Hamann will stay at Anfield (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281524&lid=3&cpid=8&title=Hamann+wants+Reds+stay&channel=Premiership)

On his day, he can be brilliant. Now Rafa, go get that chap Reina from Villareal.

great news indeed.. i want him to stay as well...

Yeah... Didi is our most underrated player...
When he plays, Gerrard can roam further up the field to create plays... I'm hoping Didi stays

We should get Shaun Wright-Phillips,Kuyt and Reina!!!

gud news if Hamann stays!

Oh yeah and which team should give their place to Liverpool? :nape:

TNS offered, to have a one-off game winner takes all i.e. a place in he CL qualifiers

I guess there is a place for the champions IF the champions aren't from England, Spain, Italy (that is.. if Porto win and come 10th in their league they'd be in)... Liverpool could take that place...

Anyone know about that Miquel Roque that we've apparantly signed? Real Madrid and Barca were tracking him.

TNS offered, to have a one-off game winner takes all i.e. a place in he CL qualifiers

I think the Welsh FA were swift to reject that idea i believe.

Anyone know about that Miquel Roque that we've apparantly signed? Real Madrid and Barca were tracking him.

Roque claims to have been signed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4596009.stm)

Hamann has broken his leg. :(

Hamann has broken his leg. :(

I have just read. Bad news for Germany, and of course Liverpool

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281745&CPID=219&CLID=14&lid=&title=Blow+for+Hamann&channel=Premiership

There should just be a rule put in place that says that the champion should automatically be allowed to defend their trophy, meaning they should be put straight in the groups w/o qualification, no matter what place they finish in their domestic league. I think it would be absolutely proposterous if Liverpool won't be given the chance to defend their win.

while I agree.. is something that has to be fixed next season, is too late for this season, it would be unfair to take any others team place.

Atleast Hamann has the summer to recover for us...bad luck though for the German NT. I hope this does not change his decision on signing a new contract with us though. :jambo:

Get well soon Didi :jap:

How did Hamman break his leg? :S

Any prediction on when he'll be back? a broken leg is something serious... I hope he comes back soon to help us

Stress fracture in his foot apparently, Did it in the champions league final or so i read somewhere..

Hamburg still want Hamann (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=281784&cpid=22&CLID=&lid=2&title=Hamburg+still+want+Hamann&channel=Football_Home)

he will always be tempted (6) to return to Germany

I heard he'll be out for only four weeks. Maybe it's not that serious.

So supposing Hamann DOES go... we will obviously need a new DM to replace him. Who would be a good choice? I don't know all the players from the other leagues, but obviously Carrick (After his recent international performances esp.) would be a good choice.


Also, I don't know much about Kuyt (that we are meant to be signing). Is he actually a good player, or would he struggle against stronger teams? Is he likely to do a Kezman?
And Reina... Don't know much about him. In terms of comparison with other Premiership keepers, where would he stand? (In terms of overall ability.)
Finally... I heard we will be signing Miguel from Benfica and Evra from Monaco... They're good apparently, but are they worth the £4.5 million and £5 million we are meant to pay for them?

i don't know but i think most clubs will gladly pay more than 5 for evra..

It was gutting to watch what Liverpool did in the sense that Arsenal think we should be winning those sort of competitions
Arsenal's Ashley Cole shows he's not a bitter person. :ewan:

more of those funny quotes can be found here--> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/quotes_of_week/4595845.stm

Uefa chief dampens Reds Euro hope

Uefa committee member Dr Joseph Mifsud said rules cannot be changed to allow holders Liverpool to enter next season's Champions League.
Mifsud has been a committee since 1994 and is also president of the Malta FA.

"While the English FA can do something in this regard, I believe as the rules stand at present at Uefa we cannot do anything," he told BBC Radio Five Live.

"Unless of course the regulations are changed. But I don't agree they can be changed midway through the season."

Pressure has increased on Uefa in the past week to include the Reds in next season's competition following their dramatic penalty shoot-out triumph over AC Milan.

Liverpool finished fifth in the Premiership, missing out on an automatic qualification for next season's Champions League - and Uefa rules do not allow automatic entry for the competition winners.

English Football Association chairman Geoff Thompson, who is also a Uefa vice-president, has lobbied for five English clubs in next season's tournament.

Liverpool will have to wait another three weeks before the issue is resolved by Uefa's 15-man executive committee at its meeting in Manchester on 17 June.

:boohoo:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4598737.stm

cant we just take the qualifying place of a team in like isreal or something! its not even in europe ffs!!

cant we just take the qualifying place of a team in like isreal or something! its not even in europe ffs!!

my dad still refuses to accept that Turkey is in Europe either, and as for some of those eastern russian teams... yeah.. european..

TROD.

Well Uefa didn't even change the rule for Real Madrid. It's up to the English FA and they already made their decision.

I guess UEFA didn't change the rules for madrid because the spanish FA did what was expected from them... I'm not saying Everton doesn't deserve to be there, as they did a good job

So supposing Hamann DOES go... we will obviously need a new DM to replace him. Who would be a good choice?

That guy from AC...Gennaro Gattuso...why not, we are the champions. Too bad he said he would like to be Keane' s replacement. Next best option would be Carrick.

Personally though, I would want Didi Hamann.....in the EPL, only Makelele can play that position effectively.

Linked with Aimar... again... :chew:

cant we just take the qualifying place of a team in like isreal or something! its not even in europe ffs!!

lol.. patience fellow scousers.. it might still happen.. have faith... :jap:

That guy from AC...Gennaro Gattuso...why not, we are the champions. Too bad he said he would like to be Keane' s replacement. Next best option would be Carrick.

Personally though, I would want Didi Hamann.....in the EPL, only Makelele can play that position effectively.

yeah Hamann is Liverpool's Makelele

There is also Pedretti of Marseille who is quite good..

A bit long but too damn funny :rofl:

Click here (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149025050602-1427.htm)

http://img85.echo.cx/img85/207/liverpoolmuseum5tk.jpg

I think it was posted in the Man United thread

A bit long but too damn funny :rofl:

Click here (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149025050602-1427.htm)
That was good... but I think the match thread here on SoccerGaming was better!

And that is a great picture Gav!

http://img85.echo.cx/img85/207/liverpoolmuseum5tk.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :Bow: Gav :Bow:

That was good... but I think the match thread here on SoccerGaming was better!


i agreed.. maybe we should ask lfc.tv to post those in their website.. hahaha... maybe ewan could help in that... :ewan:

A bit long but too damn funny :rofl:

Click here (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149025050602-1427.htm)
Call me naive, blinkered, whatever you want, but I just didnt see why this was so funny. Im a member of that site, and while I wasnt even near a computer during the CL final, its really a sign of how much Liverpool were still reveling in the semi win over Chelsea. Its really not like that many people (seriously, look at the names involved) were all that bothered about Liverpool winning it. You can see there after the shootout, there were congratulations to be had...of course, just as the transcript ended.

But why go to a chelsea site? Surely a place like RedCafe was more venemous during the game, and wouldve shown more round hatred for Liverpool in the beginning. Not that any of you shoud care, either, but the forum was inundated with disrespectful scouse fans bombarding the board with rubbish, and many were harrassed via MSN and email by your fellow "fans". Many class Reds folks came by in peace for real discussion, but the attitude of that site had been whipped into a decidely anti-scouse air before that match

Still, even being objective, I frankly dont see why its that satisfying, and i did find some of the stuff after the tie pretty clever. A handful of posts that real "Oh no, Liverpool won, OMG LOLZ", from a non-rival I wouldnt think would inspire much more than a wry smile. It comes down to the fact that liverpool, in my mind, are not at all the enemy. It seems that alot of you seem to regard Chelsea as one of your biggest enemies. (:/)

Anyway, to the victor go the spoils, and I was out of the country during the final, so belated congratulations are in order to the champs of europe. I dont want your team in at the Toffee's expense, but you should be in the competition, end of

aye? i was away and havent bothered checkin the liverpool v milan thread cos i only got back on monday... is it worth a look?? (6)

i cant get enough of man utds champs league trophy bein at anfield FOREVER though!

http://soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=123796&stc=1

No pun intended. Found it on the net the other day, and so I felt inclined to post it.

http://img205.echo.cx/img205/6789/gerrardalonso3yv1fo.th.jpg (http://img205.echo.cx/my.php?image=gerrardalonso3yv1fo.jpg)

Are we pulling yet? :lui:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4602759.stm

They got carried away.

link with raul?????

Raul quit hint alerts Liverpool

Liverpool have been linked with a move for Raul after the Spain striker hinted he may be ready to leave Real Madrid after a glittering 11-year career.
The 27-year-old may favour joining Liverpool's Spanish contingent under Rafael Benitez, which includes former Real team-mate Fernando Morientes.

He said: "If I listen to polls in papers it looks as though I should leave. I want what is best for Real.

"If at some time I have to sacrifice myself for Real to progress I will."

Liverpool boss Benitez is determined to rebuild his squad, despite their dramatic Champions League final win against AC Milan in Istanbul.

Raul believes he has yet to peak, but has called on the Bernabeu club to tell him if he still has a future there.

He said: "If the club calls you up and says you have to go, then as a player you have to be prepared to look for a way out that benefits everyone.

"I still feel useful to the club and believe I have not reached my peak, but I don't want to be in the way. All I want is for the club to be clear with me."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4609389.stm

Yeah i would take Raul anyday..He may not have been his best for a few years..But he works very well with Morientes..this would depend on fee and wages of course..

Raul is overrated and stuff, but well, do we have anyone better? I would gladly take him.

need backup (and not some toddler) for injury prone (let' s face it....this is the cursed ANFIELD) strikers..i.e. Cisse

But it won' t be Raul :nape:

The Raul stuff seems like pure silly season speculation to me. No comment has come out of Anfield to point to him coming to Liverpool and the player himself has not mentioned the club in any context.
The whole connection is based on the fact that Morientes and he (Raul) have played together and that he is Spanish. Pretty flimsy stuff IMO.

I just can' t see Real letting go of him :nape: :nape:

yeah... i can't see him leaving real as well... :nape:

Reds will up bid to land Crouch Jun 8 2005
By Chris Bascombe, Liverpool Echo


LIVERPOOL will step up their bid to sign Peter Crouch by increasing their £5m valuation.

Southampton have placed an extraordinary £7m price tag on striker, although Saints boss Harry Redknapp is privately resigned to losing the 24-year-old striker.

Liverpool hoped Crouch would leave for a bargain fee in the aftermath of his club's relegation from the Premiership, but manager Rafa Benitez is determined to sign the forward and negotiations will advance when chief executive Rick Parry returns to the country in a few days.

Despite an inflated valuation, the 6ft 7 inch forward still represents a cheaper option than Feyenoord's Dirk Kuyt, who is valued at £10m.

Crouch could finally join the Reds for around £6m.

England international Crouch has suffered the indignity of having his wages halved by Southampton in the aftermath of relegation.

His salary has been cut from £9,000 a week to £4,500 by chairman Rupert Lowe, which would make the club helpless if Liverpool make their move.

After weeks of speculation, Liverpool are still considering many of their other options in transfer market, although Benitez hopes to seal most of his deals before the players return to pre-season training on June 27.

Much still depends on UEFA's verdict regarding Champions League qualification, now expected on Friday.

Goalkeeper Jose Reina is heading to Merseyside in a £6m deal, while Real Zaragoza's defender Gabriel Milito is expected to follow when his international duty with Argentina ends.

With regards to outgoings, Lyon have openly admitted they're interested in signing striker Milan Baros.

While the Reds would welcome all bids which meet a £7m valuation, the Czech star's previously fraught relationship with ex-boss Gerard Houllier could be a stumbling block to a deal.

Baros publicly stated he would have quit Anfield last season if Houllier had remained in charge, making any bid to reunite the duo very surprising.

Despite morning reports, Deportivo La Coruna winger Albert Luque is not an Anfield target

------------------------

Sod Raul, let's get Crouch. We're European Champions after all.



















EH WTF?
:jambo:

crouch............. :nape: :nape: :nape: :nape:

There are some rumorus in Marca about Luque (Deportivo)

Barça and Atletico are after him. Very nice attacker, can play as winger too.

Personally I would have wanted Johnson if he was available for the right price but Crouch ain' t bad either :nape:

F.ucking Crouch :(

Another Forward

Morientes, Cisse, Baros, Pongolle, Mellor ?

who's leaving ?

Baros i think.
By the way, Guti would be a nice addition for Liverpool. Somehow i thought Benitez would make a move for him :).

I think Pongolle is more of a youth project. Hes not even twenty yet. Baros is definetly being shown the door, hes off to Lyon to join up with old Houllier.

Baros is definetly being shown the door, hes off to Lyon to join up with old Houllier.

what hillarious fun they will have together.

TROD.

what hillarious fun they will have together.

TROD.

Damn right (H)

Watch Lyon go for reputable Champions League side to the joke of the French Division 1

:fool:

crouch............. :nape: :nape: :nape: :nape:

i shared your same sentiment... :nape: :nape:

Yeah, you're both right, Crouch is sh*te. The fact that he was a massive pain for our defence to cope with this season means nothing. He has just won his first England cap while playing for a team which got relegated, but that means nothing. He has scored 12 goals in 18 starts this season for a relegated team, but that means nothing. Also, although Rafa rates him I really don't trust the manager's judgement. It's not like he has a good track record. :rolleyes:

We have made a bid of 5 million incidentally.

I think Crouch is good but we should be aiming higher (and no I don't mean height here)...

Hamann agrees new Liverpool deal

Liverpool midfielder Dietmar Hamann has agreed a new one-year deal at Anfield, with a further one-year option.
The 31-year-old's contract ran out this summer and German side Hamburg and Bolton were interested in his services.

But the German international, who started 30 league games this season, has agreed to remain with the Reds.

Hamann told the Liverpool Echo newspaper: "Once Liverpool made me an offer, there was only one place I wanted to play my football."

Hamann came off the bench to help Liverpool win the European Cup - breaking his foot in extra-time but still scoring in the penalty shoot-out.

The midfielder, who joined the club in 1999, said: "I always said the first club I would speak to about my future was Liverpool because I wanted to stay.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4077300.stm

great news indeed!!!!! i always wanted him to stay with us and look like it's done then...:ewan:

& some1 earlier said he'z goin.......shame on u!!!

Glad to see Hamman is staying. Good news

The Kaiser is a legend, and deserves the new deal..

Hamann signing a new contract is good!!! I like him as a player... good news!

Yep, good to see he's signed a new contract. Good player, nice bloke and a great asset for the club. Nice move from Rafa to re-sign him.

Possibly fantastic news. From the echo, and Bascombe is right on the money for the majority of the time, even if he is a fat bastard. :jambo:

LIVERPOOL'S entry into next season's European Cup is set to be confirmed tomorrow after a powerful high ranking Turkish delegate threw his weight behind the holders.

It's been widely presumed the Turks were against the move to hand Rafa Benitez's side a place in this year's competition.

Fenerbahce were worried they would lose their automatic qualification spot if the European champs were successful.

However, that's not going to be the case. The increasingly likely compromise is the Reds will be entered into the third qualifying round alongside Manchester United and Everton.

The UEFA senior vice-president is Turkish delegate Senes Erjik and he is understood to be backing this proposal.

Erjik is a powerful figure within the organisation. He's second in command to Lennart Johannson and is tipped to take over the Presidency when the 75-year-old steps down.

Having fought to assure Fenerbahce of their place, Erjik is now believed to be lobbying support for Liverpool's right to defend their title.

The club who will miss out on Champions League football is expected to come from either San Marino or Andorra, one of whom will be withdrawn from the first qualifying round.

This will have a knock-on effect, creating a vacancy for Liverpool to enter as top seeds in the third qualifier in August.

The most contentious topic of discussion for the committee, which meets tomorrow, isn't Liverpool's right to defend their title. No European champion has ever been denied that privilege since the competition began and the majority of members support Liverpool's cause.

Of more concern is the repercussions of an unprecedented five clubs from one Football Association participating. Financially, this will impact on the share of the lucrative market pool.

As it stands, if all reach the group stage, five rather than four clubs share an estimated £52m. That means Liverpool, Everton, Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal would get £10.4m each rather than £13m.

The further the clubs get, the greater their share of the market pool. If all five clubs then reached the knockout stage, or even the last eight, their share of earnings would inevitably be less than in previous years when four clubs divided the cash allocated to their association.

UEFA also know they will have to clarify the rules for future tournaments in the event of a repeat of the current farce.

The example of 2000 when Real Madrid were given a place ahead of Real Zaragoza has been widely interpreted as a missed opportunity.

However, in UEFA's defence, the Champions League format was different then as there were only four groups in the competition.

UEFA didn't want any of the groups to include two clubs from the same association - a policy still in place. Since then, the format has changed and there are eight groups.

Technically, UEFA could amend the rules to allow a maximum of eight teams from one association, and still ensure they didn't meet during the group stage.

In 2000, Real Madrid finished outside a qualifying position in La Liga but entered the Champions League in the group stage as number one seeds.

Liverpool believe the same should apply to them, but if a compromise is reached and they enter the final qualifying round, they're not likely to launch an appeal.

Fingers crossed lads.

I am sure Liverpool will have it for sure. :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

Fingers crossed lads.
i got my eyes, fingers, toes & some other unmentionable body parts crossed (H)

Liverpool get in Champions League

Liverpool will be given the chance to defend their Champions League crown after being given a place in the first qualifying round for next season.
The Reds won the competition against AC Milan in May but were not guaranteed a place next time around.

However, Uefa changed its rules after a meeting of the executive commitee and Liverpool will play in the opening round of qualifiers.

Their first leg will be on 12 or 13 July with the second on 19 or 20 July.

The Uefa Cup spot which Liverpool had earned for finishing fifth in the Premiership will not transfer to another English club - meaning disappointment for Manchester City, who would have taken it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4613695.stm
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149070050610-1059.htm

woohoo!!!! music to my ears!!!! good decision!!!! thanks you to all those UEFA members that voted for us!!!!!:Bow: :ewan:

Good news its good as well that everton didnt get kicked out although you Pool fans might not agree

Good news its good as well that everton didnt get kicked out although you Pool fans might not agree

nah.. they did deserved to be in it.. we just suck **** in the league last season..

**** OFF UEFA :kader: no City in Uefa Cup :(:(:(

and congrats 'Pool, you deserve to be in the CL

UEFA is a f*cking disgrace.

I agree with this new rule, but changing it now for Liverpool to fit in is a major farse.

em, who got left out? what the hell happened anyway? why did Fenerbahce get direct qualification, as a result of pool's inclusion?

like man city deserved to be in europe for finnishing like 9th or something :jambo: (N)

not all good news for me though :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/4081094.stm

i know nobody hear cares about the SPL but this decision is an utter farce!! they came 9th (out of 12!!) barely avoiding relegation and lost a cup final!

also...by crusader

UNFAIR:

- Rules shouldn't be changed in middle of the season.

how can you say its the middle of the season?!?! :| :D

how can you say its the middle of the season?!?! :| :D

Cause rules never are changed if they can affect any team. Why? Cause ppl can think that UEFA is supporting Liverpool in this case. What could happen if another team wins CL, instead Liverpool?

Im sorry actually Liverpool is my second team and im glad they will play CL next season, but i think is not FAIR 100% cause at the beginning of this season there were no teams arguing about that rule.

see the question should be this. Would they change the rules if it was a team like Porto, PSV, Lyon, and so on if they were a situation like this?

i can tell u one thing that's for sure: HELL NO THEY WOULDN'T

now i dis think it was a stupid rule. Winner's should always be there no matter what, but they only changed the rule cuz it's Pool.

im certain they would. the only reason they changed it for the english fa and not the spanish is cos the english actually had the balls to stand up to uefa while spain just relegated zaragoza. i think its the right decision, dont think we deserved automatic qualification

just don't screw it up plaesa. After all the trouble you guys better get through the pre rounds.lol

Good Luck Pool

how can you say its the middle of the season?!?! :| :D


no it's not it's even more serious, it's the end of the season.

Any decision made by this point should and would (if the UEFA weren't ****s)only affect the 2006/2007 Champions League edition.

im certain they would. the only reason they changed it for the english fa and not the spanish is cos the english actually had the balls to stand up to uefa while spain just relegated zaragoza. i think its the right decision, dont think we deserved automatic qualification


In 2000 Spain FA didnt had the balls cause we had no chance knowing the final was 100% spanish (Madrid vs Valencia) so UEFA didnt wanted more spanish teams in CL.

The current champion should always defend its title.
However, nobody can ignore the fact UEFA made the decision a bit too late, and probably would have had different thoughts about it if it wasn't a top English club. Still, it's better to have a good decision taken late in the game than no decision at all!

The real question here, imho, is not whether the champion should defend their title or not, but rather non-championship winning teams qualifying for the CL.
I prefer things as they were in the past: you win your national championship, you get a ticket for the european champions league.
Seeing teams like Liverpool, who don't contend for their domestic title for god knows how long, playing in UEFA's greatest competition is what's wrong in this whole story.

......................and Arsenal and Real Madrid AND AC Milan AND Manchester United and Schalke AND Inter. You wana say Liverpool does not belong in the ONLY FOR "CHAMPIONS" LEAGUE...fine. But the same argument (6) must (6) be applied for other teams as well. :ewan:

thats what hes saying...only champions should play it.

Which part of my post led you to believe I was talking about Liverpool alone? Thought it was clear I was talking about all teams.
'but rather non-championship winning teams qualifying for the CL'; 'Seeing teams like Liverpool,'

(C)

see the question should be this. Would they change the rules if it was a team like Porto, PSV, Lyon, and so on if they were a situation like this?

i can tell u one thing that's for sure: HELL NO THEY WOULDN'T

now i dis think it was a stupid rule. Winner's should always be there no matter what, but they only changed the rule cuz it's Pool.
you can't say anything for sure... of course there were interests from many people to see Liverpool there because they generate money but still you can't say they wouldn't do it if it was a smaller team (smaller meaning "not so financially attractive")

And you know they wouldn't ever change the rule if they didn't change it now... they didn't change it when Madrid won it...

yeah they didnt change it when Madrid won it, i dont see why they should change it now tho. it seems UEFA gave in to the media pressure, which is crap. the rule is there now tho, so lets just forget about all this. atleast they start in the first round of qualifications, which is a big hit on the team's preparations, so there is a minus to it.

I highly doubt if the same scenerio happened with a less celebrated Spanish or Italian club, theyd bend the rules like this.

What kind of roster will Liverpool have, seeing as theyre season will be starting in a few weeks now?

Thanks to this rule change the Romanian champion will now start CL playin the 2nd qual. round rather than the first so I'm all for it.

i'm for one going for the facts that European cup should be cater for the league winner of each country, like it used to be.. but things has changed, so did the European Cup, Uefa want the competition to be more interesting and generate more income for the clubs involved thus the formation of the now Champions League, let's face it, if Uefa only allow the "Champions" of each country to play in it, i doubt it will generate much interest, cause some of the "champions" of their respective country are just ain't good enough...

If Porto, PSV, Lyon etc won the Champions' League last season, then wouldn't they automatically be entered in next year? It's only different for us as we're in one of the top three countries according to UEFA domestically, England, Italy and Spain.

Huge relief today though, we deserve the right to defend our trophy.

Unbelievable. The FA should have asked Uefa to let every single Premiership team into the CL.

Unbelievable. The FA should have asked Uefa to let every single Premiership team into the CL.
Why would they do such a ridiculous thing like that?

If Porto, PSV, Lyon etc won the Champions' League last season, then wouldn't they automatically be entered in next year? It's only different for us as we're in one of the top three countries according to UEFA domestically, England, Italy and Spain.

Huge relief today though, we deserve the right to defend our trophy.

no, they wouldnt be entered automatically, unless the finished in the CL spots of their countries. the rules had to be bended so Liverpool could enter the competition.

no, they wouldnt be entered automatically, unless the finished in the CL spots of their countries. the rules had to be bended so Liverpool could enter the competition.
I must of heard wrong then. I always thought differently.

no, they wouldnt be entered automatically, unless the finished in the CL spots of their countries. the rules had to be bended so Liverpool could enter the competition.
Wrong and right...
UEFA bent the rules, yeah, but the rule they bent is the one that states no country can have more than 4 clubs in the CL... Had Porto finished 10th in the portuguese league and won the CL, they'd be entered if the portuguese FA made a request to UEFA and in that case they'd be entered in the group stage as well as their league champion and 2nd placed, while the 3rd would be entered in Qualifying 3rd stage
It means group stage teams are:
CL Title Holders
1st and 2nd from: Spain, England, Italy, France, Germany, Portugal
1st from: Greece, Holland and Czech rep

Unless the title holder is from a 4-club country and failed to qualify through the domestic competition (Liverpool's situation)

The 4 club rule was made because no club could get into a group with another club of the same country, and that was when CL had 4 groups...

the rules now (after these changes made to suit Liverpool) are such, that if you win the CL, you enter next year's CL automatically. its a good rule otherwise, but it shouldnt have been made now, because it looks like UEFA just gave in to the media pressure instead of changing it for the right reasons.

edit: didnt see the post above as i wrote mine. i didnt know all that :). well, all is done now. good luck to Pool in their CL campaign this year.

Great news! I don't think starting in the first qualifying round is a problem. We'll be making the knock-out stages no problem

you can't say anything for sure... of course there were interests from many people to see Liverpool there because they generate money but still you can't say they wouldn't do it if it was a smaller team (smaller meaning "not so financially attractive")

Come on now, who are you trying to kid? This is just unbelievable IMO, sucks for the other teams who have to get a smaller share of money to fit Liverpool in :boohoo:

A champion should be able to defend their title. Period. End of discussion.

That same champion should be able to finish in the top 4 positions in their own league.

That same champion should be able to finish in the top 4 positions in their own league.Different competition different story.

Come on now, who are you trying to kid? This is just unbelievable IMO, sucks for the other teams who have to get a smaller share of money to fit Liverpool in :boohoo:
I'm not trying to kid anyone.. if anything, someone was trying to kid people Liverpool only got in because media was with them... it's the CHAMPIONS league for goodness sake... of course, maybe liverpool shouldn't have been in there since they were fourth in the EPL but they went on to win the damned thing... if the champions of the champions league shouldn't be allowed in but the second place of some minor footballing country like switzerland are, something is very wrong...

About the teams getting less money... Liverpool too is getting less money since as champions they'd get 30% of the money destined to the english teams if 4 teams reach the group stage, yet now they'd be getting 15%... it's not defined who'd get what if all 5 reach group stages

All I can say is Arsenal 7:0 Everton :crazyboy:

What does that have to do with anything?

Bandwidth waster. :kader:

That same champion should be able to finish in the top 4 positions in their own league.
forgive me if i'm wrong, but are you implying that top 4 = champions?

no offense to everton, but since when are they champions? :|

forgive me if i'm wrong, but are you implying that top 4 = champions?

no offense to everton, but since when are they champions? :|

no need to worry about everton.. they are another ipswich in the making... :ewan: :evil:

forgive me if i'm wrong, but are you implying that top 4 = champions?

no offense to everton, but since when are they champions? :|

You misunderstand. I was referring to Liverpool being champions of Europe, not that the top 4 teams are champions :jap:

if the champions of the champions league shouldn't be allowed in but the second place of some minor footballing country like switzerland are, something is very wrong...

This may be partly true, but the second place of that minor country earned their spot and still deserve to be there. It shouldn't matter where they come from. Oh well, it's done and dusted now. Nothing anyone can do about it now.

You believe winning the champions league is not "earning a spot", yet making it to fourth place on some nations, second on others is?
Second place in switzerland deserves a place to be there, yeah, but the champions of europe do too...

Well winning is obviously earning a spot in the competition. I'm just saying that the champion of a cup like the Champions League should be able to finish in the top 4 of their domestic league. Something like this is just unusual to say the least.

I just have the feeling we're going to end up in an English team's group. If we qualify.

Well winning is obviously earning a spot in the competition. I'm just saying that the champion of a cup like the Champions League should be able to finish in the top 4 of their domestic league. Something like this is just unusual to say the least.
It is quite unusual. We'd been inconsistant all season in the Premiership, yet in the Champions' League we gave some fantastic performances one after the other.

Still, we fully deserve the right to be in next year's competition.

Unbelievable. The FA should have asked Uefa to let every single Premiership team into the CL.

that is the most random and irelavant statement ever.

bow down to the kings of europe :jambo:

would anyone else see the funny side if we never go tthrough the qualifiers? (H)

What does that have to do with anything?

Bandwidth waster. :kader:

They made it in BUT can be beaten 7-0....I will be hoping that this is the scoreline in every single game they play in the qualification rounds..... :boohoo: :boohoo:

would anyone else see the funny side if we never go tthrough the qualifiers? (H)

shhhuuuiiii.................:)

excuse me mr ewan

http://www.barganews.com/Resources/barga%20scots.gif

how possible would it be for a black man from the north east of scotland to get away tickets to see us playin in either newcastle, boro or sunderland do u reckon? infact how easy is it gettin tickets for anfield these days?!

thanks x

Are your parents racist?

I read today that Rafa has confirmed an interest in Reina. :|

I thought we had already made a bid and were waiting for them to sort out personal details :lui:

Well Rafa doesn't really ever say he's interested in a player until the deal is nearly finished does he?

So in his language, him saying he's interested in him probably means that all contract details have been arranged, just that they're arguing over the fee, 6-8 mil.

Blatter's Reds Warning (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284357&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=Blatter's+Reds+warning&channel=Football_Home)

:|

I wouldnt mind it under different circumstances but this is getting ridiculous. I'm seeing a big time burnout next season. Hope we make it thru with as little damage as possible :(

Send the u-15s there and lose to the oceania champions, it's not like it's an important tournament... sure I'd love to win that one, as it'd mean that my fav club, LFC and my fav brazilian club, Corinthians, would have been the only champions so far (since the toyota cup doesn't exist anymore, and has been replaced by the club world championship)...
There are more important things... and if they're so concerned about us sending a weakened squad or not sending a squad at all, they should have put us on the group stage...

phwoar tough fixture list! we're gonna be well shíte domestically next year! although i doubt we'll need our 1st team out for the 1st leg of qualifying... we can just sent out the reserve youth team and still win! wouldnt put much effort into the league cup or fa cup either

I don't think we should do so badly domestically. I think we can do well in the league and FA cup domestically. I think the League cup should be for our youth team again.

Blatter's Reds Warning (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284357&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=Blatter's+Reds+warning&channel=Football_Home)

:|

Is that any way to treat the Champions of Europe? Arrogant mutt that he is. (6) This is merely an attempt to knock Liverpool out of the CL ASAP next season :( . The general opinion is STILL that Liverpool did not warrant entry into next years competition but the CHAMPIONS name tag was too heavy.....Qualification for the CL starts on July the 13th if I' m not mistaken....:nape:

"Argentina defender Mauricio Pellegrino has been released by Liverpool after being told he would not get a new contract."

no surprises there then, about bloody time.

TROD.

Agent: Baros wants to stay

He' s useless but wants to play for the CHAMPIONS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4103230.stm)

I would' ve thought he' d follow Smicer to France.

To hell with Baros.....he & kewell are the 1st 2 who should be shown the door.

Baros... :nape:
He's a good player but maybe not suited to the way we play or the opposition we face.. and imho we shouldn't change our style to suit his...

New away kit for this season maybe
http://www2.empirestores.co.uk/images/empireshopping/images/products/zoom/z_MM3557.jpg

that's a nice kit

Nice kit! shame they are so bloody expensive around here...

Nice kit! shame they are so bloody expensive around here...

they are expensive everywhere... cause of the british pound... :jambo:

:ewan: :ewan: Nice kit. :ewan:

:nape: its pretty much the exact same as the one from 03/04 :nape:

exept not as good!

Bring back the old green away kit I say :ewan:

whatever happened do your sherrif john bunnel sig? do u still have it anywhere?

can i steal it for the aberdeen forum "donstalk" (H)

Hmm.....things have been kinda quiet........any new transfer rumours? :chew:

No extravagant signings this year methinks. I'd say Milito, Reina, Gonzales, Zenden, Stellios and maybe another. I would've thought Kuyt but it seems Baros is staying, especially with Lyon buying Carew.

I would like a nice big signing for a winger though (C)

Stellios

As in Giannakopolous?

As in Giannakopolous?

Yep. Stelios Giannakopoulos, get it right Liam, ain't so hard!

So Stelios is technically the best player in Europe. He plays for the International European Champs and the Club European Champs. We have signed pure class (C)

I'll be honest I don't know whether to be happy or not that we are signing Stellios.

In fairness, I was rather pissed off when I heard we had signed him. But 30 years old isn't ancient. And its only 1 million. Was he bought for the first team? I doubt it, he'll be used as a back up or rotation, giving Rafa more options. I.e when Kewell plays like a pile of sh1t after 45 mins, we bring on Stellios.

Don't say he's a bad signing because of his age though. Thats bollocks. How old was Gary McAllister when we signed him? 32? How vital was he to our 2001 season? We all remember the 40 yard last second goal against the bluesh1tes! We all remember his free kick which led to our golden goal win over alaves! He went through a 7 game stage of scoring 7 goals... Oops, gone off topic.

Basically, lets let Rafa do his job, we shall review it when the season is finished.

Oh yeah, don't listen to too many rumours either, I just heard we're linked with Duff again! Remember when we were all ecstatic about getting Kewell for 5mil instead of Duff for 17!

:chew:

ide like to be the first to ask rami just wot the fúck it is he's blabbering on about?

we havent signed stellios :|

and also why are you talking about gary mcallister? what the fúck has that got to do with the price of liams boxer shorts? so we should just sign lots of old men because they are all gary mcallister? :|

rami.... go back to bed :|

We're chasing him, in the first post I said I thought we'd get him. In the 2nd I said he plays for us, ok that was incorrect but that was accidental.

Liam thought it was a dodgy signing cos of his age, I was just merely pointing out that the elderly can still play their part, using Gary McAllister as an example.

Not like u 2 get ur knickers in a twist over something lyk that Gav

all i was wondering was why you posted that in here, when clearly shíte like that is better suited here (H)

http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?t=124392

hmmmmm, I thought it was already official that you had signed a 18 years old right back from Sevilla, Antonio Barragán

I think he hasn't played ever in primera división but I had heard sometimes that Sevilla board was keen to sell his star defender Sergio Ramos because they had another youngster (Barragán) playing the same position in the youth team who was pushing hard, so he must be good

and anyway, you will only have to pay the formation fee that UEFA will decide (around €300,000)

tickets sold out for TNS game????? wHo would want to see that Welsh team get curshed? My word...........
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149213050630-1344.htm :nape:

tickets sold out for TNS game????? wHo would want to see that Welsh team get curshed? My word...........
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149213050630-1344.htm :nape:

I wouldn't of minded going to watch that.

Liverpool will Unveil Bolo Zenden on monday....Free

Liverpool will Unveil Bolo Zenden on monday....Free

We need to "iorn" out a few formalities first. Its another one that I'm not sure whether its a good signing or not. I touted him allot when he was a young player at Barcelona but hes not really done much since.

Be a good squad player.

Yeah, he's one that spurs the whole team on to better performances. Even if he plays bad himself.

He'll make an excellent manager one day.

Awesome sig Jimbob.

http://www.lfcavatars.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Avatars/Pongolle.gif
(H)
Many think Florent could play as our right winger, and based on some of his performances this season against olympiakos and arsenal, he deserves a chance.

One from the "AND HIS TEAM WOULD BE CREAMED IF THEY ACTUALLY DID" file.......

I would like it if Everton could draw Liverpool (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149223050702-0938.htm)

:rolleyes:

Good, I hope we do draw Everton, beat them, and then get more money for being in the group stages :ewan:

f*cking UEFA... No country protection?? Bah :nape:

BTW any news on Reina? I thought it was a done signing

if you believe what the papers say then steven gerrard is very much on his way out of anfield. still, i dont believe what the papers say. i remember reading in the dailly express last summer that his 35 million move to chelsea was complete. gotta admit if he were to go to real madrid and we pocketed 35 million + i wouldnt lose to much sleep over it because i dont think we'de be selling our best central midfielder.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=289261&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=Gerrard+nears+Anfield+exit&channel=football_home

I really dont get what's going on with this whole Gerrard fiasco.....1st he wants out & Chelsea are just waiting to grab him, then he says he wants to stay....& now the papers are saying that Benitez wants him out coz he could use the $$ for rebuilding. Twisted stuff.....:| Hope things get resolved soon

f*cking UEFA... No country protection?? Bah :nape:

BTW any news on Reina? I thought it was a done signing

It's done. Rafa confirmed it @ Liverpool Official website. Here (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N149238050704-1312.htm). They also signed Mark Gonzalez (incredibly fast left winger, he played in Albacete and he's chilean (6) ) and Antonio Barragan (a young RB from Sevilla, he's 18).

Reina = Good goalkepper

Mark Gonzalez = Not a big name, but he did a nice season in La liga.

Barragan = very young player, i dont see it play it until he grow up !

Zenden = ?¿?¿?

Oooooh this is nice.
http://www.footballclips.net/steven_gerrard_top_20_goals

Reina can be easily the best GK in the EPL. Nice catch :)

The idea of losing Gerrard sounds bad to me (sounds bad for probably anyone though). People associate Liverpool with Gerrard, he's our main symbol, and losing him, well, it would feel that something is missing. We can use the money (if we do sell him) to bring some classy players, but still...

About the signings, i'm pleased, despite for the fact that we are signing too much people from La Liga and it make take a while for them to adapt. I mean, we need a EPL title, and this season looks like the best time to do it, right after an European title. We need a blockbuster name at the creation part of the game, a flair player, a attacking midfielder with skill and consistency.

Get Pablo Aimar.

Rafa coached him well at Valencia.


Sorry about Gerrard guys. :(

Get Pablo Aimar.

Rafa coached him well at Valencia.


Sorry about Gerrard guys. :(

Sell Gerrard and use the money for Aimar :jap:

We wont have to splash out 35 million for Aimar. We can get him for 15 million. He's kinda undervalued after Valencia's poor season, plus he always gets injured. I would love him at my team though, he's a great player.

Yeah, Pablito if healthy is among the best playmakers on the planet. His health is the problem though. :(

I agree. I dont quite get it why Pekerman started him on the bench against us.

last season his excuse for wanting to leave was that he wouldnt get the trohpys he desired... well.... charity shield ( ), couple of league cup, f.a cup, uefa cup, super cup & champions league medals arent to be sniffed at! its clearly all about money which disgusts me in this case cause its not as if liverpool just offered him about a fiver a week.

i want his blood on my hands.

I' m not entirely convinced about Aimar...and I don' t know if he can truly fit into the EPL system but only time will tell. As for Gerrard, well he wanted the money..nothing else to it.

Les Lawson of the Liverpool International Supporter' s Association:

'He's lifted the European Cup, but it is definitely tainted. It would be saved a bit if he went abroad to Real Madrid but if he goes to another Premiership club, he'll definitely be tainted,' Lawson told the Press Association.

'No one player is bigger than Liverpool Football Club. If winning the European Cup is not competing at the highest level, and winning winning major trophies, I don't know what is.

'He has turned down £100,000 a week; I'm still paying off my credit card bill and thousands of Liverpool supporters are the same from going to Istanbul to cheer him on and he is turning down £100,000 per week to play for the team that he is supposed to have supported since he was a kid.

'He is supposed to be a boyhood Red. As far as I'm concerned he's not. If he wants to leave Liverpool, last season they were after him three times to sign a new contract and he was saying `wait, wait'.

'He's won every major honour with Liverpool except the Premier League title, which is not bad going for a team that can't compete at the highest level,' Lawson said.

Asked why Gerrard might want to leave so badly, Lawson was at a loss to answer.

'Who knows why? Obviously he's going to get more money at other clubs than Liverpool but I just think he thinks he is bigger than Liverpool FC. I'd just like to tell him he's not. He's a fantastic footballer, don't get me wrong, but he's not bigger than the club. Nobody is.

'Where is the loyalty? I don't want any player who does not want to play for us. If he wants to go, then go. But I'm very sad because he is a class player.'

Lawson insisted the club were not to blame for the current situation and believes agents have played a significant role in his decision to move on.

'What have Liverpool done wrong? Liverpool asked him to stay three times and he said wait. After the Champions League final he said he wanted to stay, Liverpool wanted to keep him, so what was the problem? Obviously he's been looking for an excuse to get out.

'He is going, but he is not going with his head held high.

'The ball is in Liverpool's court. I wouldn't sell him for less than £40million. If Chelsea come in I'd ask them for £40million plus William Gallas and Damien Duff. That's what I'd look for. With the money, I'd go out and buy Shaun Wright-Phillips, Michael Ballack and maybe Ruben Baraja. You are not going to replace him with one player.

'It's a very sad day for Liverpool Football Club. I feel bitterly disappointed that he has decided to do this. I just hope Jamie Carragher, who is a player who deserves to wear the red shirt, is given the captaincy.'

Couldn' t agree more! What else can the club do? About the only thing that I can think of now is how to scr*w the guy by profitting off of him.....start with an asking price of around 45 mil and DON' T ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS THAN 40 mil.

This Opta analysis sort of confirms the thoughts about Gerrards importance to the team

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285216&CPID=8&clid=&channel=premiership

The Merseysiders recorded a win percentage of just 40 per cent when Gerrard played, a figure that rose to 63 per cent when he was missing. The number of goals Liverpool scored per game was also higher when Gerrard was not playing.

:jap:

What a tosser that Lawson bloke is...... :kader:

I guess a lot of Liverpool fans will blame Gerrard for this and up to now ,on radio phone ins ETC,the opinions are all negative.But think on this.....One thing Gerrard was concerned about was the treatment that the English players were getting from Benitez.Gerrard was upset that Liverpool sold Owen.He said at the time that Owen was "persuaded" to leave.Gerrard has seen the club he loves and will always love become Atletico Liverpool.Soon the entire squad will be Spanish.I'm not saying that the players Benitez has bought are poor.No no no...they are good players,but Gerrard can see the English heart of Liverpool being replaced wholemeal with Spanish talent.Rumour has it that even Jamie Carragher is being readied to be sold.Gerrard is not just a proud Liverpool lad ,he is a proud Englishman and i can understand his dismay at seeing his club transformed in this way.He was waiting to see who Liverpool would buy for the new season ,and obviously the guy is dissapointed with what he sees.The money dont come into it,£90,000 a week or £100.000 a week.The difference of £10,000 a week aint going to be the sticking point that the club say it is.I think Gerrard is sick with the clubs attitude and thats it.Typical football "fans" though.....just like the Cole saga.....the "fans "turn their anger on the individual and not the club.....oh no never the glorious club.....wait for the full story to emerge before condemning the bloke....for what Gerrard has given Liverpool ,the "fans " owe him that much at least :)


I read your posts and i think that some of your comments as regards Gerrard are fickle and pathetic......you talk about lack of loyalty fron Stevie but you lot are willing to flog him so you can import another foreign player or two....why the hell does he want to play for you when you are so quick to condemn him and piss all over him.....I remember the dreadful treatment he recieved from so called "scousers" last year too.......and i bet he aint forgot either....so look to yourselves as well for a reason he might not want to stay.....

2 or 3 signings: Milito, Figo... The other one COULD be Crouch.

Bring on the money.

30 mil transfer kitty + 40 mil Gerrard = 70 mil

70 mil - Reina (6m) - Milito (8m) = 56m

56mil? hahaha we're laughing. Gerrard is one outstanding player, 56mil is many excellent players

2 or 3 signings: Milito, Figo... The other one COULD be Crouch.

Bring on the money.

30 mil transfer kitty + 40 mil Gerrard = 70 mil

70 mil - Reina (6m) - Milito (8m) = 56m

56mil? hahaha we're laughing. Gerrard is one outstanding player, 56mil is many excellent players

This is typically what i am talking about........ :kader:

What a tosser that Lawson bloke is...... :kader:

I guess a lot of Liverpool fans will blame Gerrard for this and up to now ,on radio phone ins ETC,the opinions are all negative.But think on this.....One thing Gerrard was concerned about was the treatment that the English players were getting from Benitez.Gerrard was upset that Liverpool sold Owen.He said at the time that Owen was "persuaded" to leave.Gerrard has seen the club he loves and will always love become Atletico Liverpool.Soon the entire squad will be Spanish.I'm not saying that the players Benitez has bought are poor.No no no...they are good players,but Gerrard can see the English heart of Liverpool being replaced wholemeal with Spanish talent.Rumour has it that even Jamie Carragher is being readied to be sold.Gerrard is not just a proud Liverpool lad ,he is a proud Englishman and i can understand his dismay at seeing his club transformed in this way.He was waiting to see who Liverpool would buy for the new season ,and obviously the guy is dissapointed with what he sees.The money dont come into it,£90,000 a week or £100.000 a week.The difference of £10,000 a week aint going to be the sticking point that the club say it is.I think Gerrard is sick with the clubs attitude and thats it.Typical football "fans" though.....just like the Cole saga.....the "fans "turn their anger on the individual and not the club.....oh no never the glorious club.....wait for the full story to emerge before condemning the bloke....for what Gerrard has given Liverpool ,the "fans " owe him that much at least :)


I read your posts and i think that some of your comments as regards Gerrard are fickle and pathetic......you talk about lack of loyalty fron Stevie but you lot are willing to flog him so you can import another foreign player or two....why the hell does he want to play for you when you are so quick to condemn him and piss all over him.....I remember the dreadful treatment he recieved from so called "scousers" last year too.......and i bet he aint forgot either....so look to yourselves as well for a reason he might not want to stay.....



But Pede, Not everybody has Chelsea's transfer budget and can afford to buy English players, Who are always way way overpriced..Rafa HAS said he wants English players, we just cant afford the good ones...So should we go Bankrupt just to please Steven Gerrard? I dont think so..

No one player is bigger than the club, And Gerrard thinks he is.. I hope he does well where ever he goes and i wish him all the luck in the world..But i for one am glad its all going to be over, Lets all move on with our lives

No pede, he has treated us like sh*t. For the past 2 seasons he has always brought this cloud over us, whether he is staying, whether he is going, whatever.

Last season was just as bad as this, I'm relieved that I won't have to read in the news anymore speculation about him. The speculation IS NOT good for the team! Especially the comment he made before the final, about how there is a direct effect that this match will have on his future, the players don't need to know that.

I mean, if I played for Liverpool, the team i've supported since I was born, and got offered 100,000 pounds a week to play for them, hell yes I would stay, no doubts about it. He has one more trophy to win at club level at this club. His loss, we'll win it.

Jimbob....i'm sure he's not glad its over....i'm sure he is sick about it,and i dont think he sees himself as someone who's bigger than the club either.You know Gerrard man,he just aint made that way.So its got to be other factors that have brought the situation to this sad end.Of course i dont want Liverpool to go to the wall,but its Parry and Moores who have done this to you and not Gerrard.They control the club and its finances so maybe you should be asking,why they have allowed Liverpool to get neck deep in financial s.h.i.t. creek.You know me man....i have always shown great respect to Liverpool,they have earned it over a long period of time.But look to the money men if you need a scapegoat for the mess that Liverpool might be in,and not just one solitary player. :ewan:

No pede, he has treated us like sh*t. For the past 2 seasons he has always brought this cloud over us, whether he is staying, whether he is going, whatever.

Last season was just as bad as this, I'm relieved that I won't have to read in the news anymore speculation about him. The speculation IS NOT good for the team! Especially the comment he made before the final, about how there is a direct effect that this match will have on his future, the players don't need to know that.

I mean, if I played for Liverpool, the team i've supported since I was born, and got offered 100,000 pounds a week to play for them, hell yes I would stay, no doubts about it. He has one more trophy to win at club level at this club. His loss, we'll win it.

but that just proves that this saga has nothing to do with money...there are darker reasons mate.

I guess a lot of Liverpool fans will blame Gerrard for this and up to now ,on radio phone ins ETC,the opinions are all negative.But think on this.....One thing Gerrard was concerned about was the treatment that the English players were getting from Benitez.Gerrard was upset that Liverpool sold Owen.He said at the time that Owen was "persuaded" to leave.Gerrard has seen the club he loves and will always love become Atletico Liverpool.Soon the entire squad will be Spanish.After the 0-0 in Stamford Bridge you criticized him as if he was who had to get a better result. Then Liverpool beat Chelsea and went to the final. In the final you couldn't resist it again: 3-0, great moment to make another speech against Benitez. Then they won the CL.

If anyone can beat Mourinho as the best coach in the world, that's Benítez. I guess that's why you don't like him and you don't stop blaming him for everything.



I also think that Benítez should stop buying spanish players but I don't think Gerrard is leaving Liverpool cause of Benítez or the Spanish players. When Gerrard or Owen say that they're gonna leave if Liverpool don't win titles and make big signings, they're announcing their departure, because they know that Liverpool can't spend the millions that they'd need to bring the best players. However Liverpool won the biggest honour in Europe and he still wants to leave. Obviously he never thought about renewing the contract and I think he was planning his departure before Benítez arrived.

Listen up Dream team......you are full of lies mate.....when Milan were 3 goals up i actually said to the Liverpool fans....dont lose heart Liverpool can still do it...and they did.Anyway why do you follow me everywhere with your anti Chelsea s.h.i.t.Go away little boy and try to get over the fact that Chelsea kicked you out of the CL OK?That was last season sonny....get over it and grow up you mug :kader:

Anti Chelsea? what did I say about Chelsea?

Anti Chelsea? what did I say about Chelsea?

I wouldn't worry too much, pede's backed himself into a corner and has started getting agro now he can't get out :boohoo:

guys, enough of this captain marvel sh!t already, let him go.. i don't care about him anymore, now let's hope rafa deliver the big one next season just to piss him off... :hump:

hopefully we can secure three - four decent signings 2 replace him

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4654837.stm

Oh dear, we're a one man team again
















:ewan:

Oh dear, we're a one man team again
















:ewan:

that's what u always wanted.. :ewan:

I don't think that Gerrard will ever leave Liverpool...

Steve Gerrard, Gerraaard
He's big and he's fuuuuuckin' maard,
Gettin rid of 'im's bloody haaard,
Steve Gerrard, Gerraaaard...

I don't think that Gerrard will ever leave Liverpool...
Aye....& he should just make up his mind once & for all & shut it (H)

Next season should be interesting now :)

Well, i'm glad he's staying. I just dont want that drama to take part in every god damn season now. Although it's kinda funny, Gerrard teases Chelsea to the fullest once again, before giving them a slap in the face (once again!). (H)

slap in the face? im sure they dont hate him that much after he won them the league cup... sorry :$

do you reckon we'll ever find out the real reason he wanted to leave AND then wanted to stay?? parrys story about him realising how much the club means to him is the biggest heap of pish ever.

I'm glad the story has a happy ending......case closed......Stevie stays where he belongs,I'm really pleased for him and Liverpool................. :ewan:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/lampshade1/DSC01505.jpg

All i can say is, I hope this isnt gonna happen every year....

haha gutted!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/lampshade1/DSC01505.jpg

you're a sad excuse for a human being do you know that? and you call yourself a liverpool fan :nape: Hate how people turn on the players like that. one moment they're praising Gerrard's name aloud, the next they're burning a shirt with his name on it. really pathetic. its wierd how quickly "fans" can forget all the great things he has given to this club. he was a great inspiration to the players on the road to Istanbul. I admit, the way he acted was a bit ****ty, but come on. You've got a lot of growing up to do man, a lot of growing up :nape: