Who said that?

They should be in jail right now, because that's an open, direct threat.


i meant it in a methaphorical way. Perez will be veeery hated if he lets Raul go. and the quotes part was for Raul saying that he will leave if its for the good of the team. he said that a few months ago, not now.

I'll consider flying to spain to get rid of perez myself if he does sell raul....does this guy give a f*ck about the fans or not?

I don't think that Perez is gonna sell Raul cause he is the captain and symbol of Real Madrid and he know that so i don't think he gonna risk of move on selling Raul.

well even if he doesnt sell Raul, i will prefer seing Owen and ronaldo starting...

well even if he doesnt sell Raul, i will prefer seing Owen and ronaldo starting...

Owen should start its a must start, he had like 26 caps and like 15 goals.:jambo:

I bet Raul will prefer starting for Liverpool, than being on the bench for Real. Wouldn't Madrid fans want to see him go, considering he's barely had an impact over the last two season.

Raul is a starter at Real, always has been, hes been here all his life. he hasnt scored alot of goals lately, but he's the one that goes back to midfield to pick up the ball, he does alot of work. hes an icon of Real Madrid, i hope he never leaves.

well i think it is time to leave everything behind and focus on the players that are havin a good moment...

we noe raul wont be in the bench if he is the captain,
and i want new ppl in our team...

real madrid would have nowhere to play if they sold raul because the stadium would be burned down

he's madrid through and through...a few bad patches cant sour his outstanding career :jambo:

it would be SO SAD if Raul left.......I would cry....well not really, but I bet someone would

he's madrid through and through...a few bad patches cant sour his outstanding career :jambo:

Right (Y)

--------------Casillas--------------------subs (diego lopez)
Salgado--Ramos----Samuel--R. Carlos----subs(woody/Ivan/Pavon)
--------------Gravesen-------------------subs(Ballack/P.Garcia/Ivan)
Beckham-------Ballack-----(Jao.C.Ron)----subs(guti/zizou/solari/figo)
------------Raul----Ronaldo-------------subs(Owen/Robinho)

'subs' means subs for that(those) position(s).

Helguera in bench!?? :| :|

From TeamTalk.com

Raul linked with Reds move

omg, that was funny :rofl:

he should never leave he is the heart and soul of real madrid

He's not going anywhere.

Settle down, folks.

He visited Anfield for two reasons:

1) Congratulate Rafa Benitez on the Champions' League victory. Benitez was with Real Madrid and knows Raul well.

2) Visit his best friend, Fernando Morientes.

Raul won't leave.

Raul = Madrid's symbol

It's like saying Juve will sell DP :rolleyes:

Even though he might have had a bad season he won't be sold (well, all the team sucked year long (6) ).

I can't see Bayern actually accepting this offer of 15 Million for Ballack.
Apparently Bayern has set the transfer fee up to 30 M which seems like a fair amount to me.

I doubt that he's gonna leave though, his agent and the club will start negotiating about a contract extension first.

stop worrying. Raúl will NOT leave. this is just some media crap. the interview with him that they have in the report is from right after Champions League fall out. when it came out that 3 galacticos have to leave, you know.

that's when he said, i will leave if its what's best for the team.
media act like he said this recently. such bullsh!t! :kader:

Liverpool invited to Bernabeu Trophy (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050605dasdaiftb_18&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050605)

They would play on August 23rd, 5 days before the start of La Liga 05/06 :jap:

Beckham's Real desire to stay (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?HLID=282546&CPID=23&title=Beckham's+Real+desire+to+stay&lid=2&channel=Football_Home&f=rss) what a lame title :nape:

Sacchi denies Raul approach (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?HLID=282560&CPID=23&title=Saachi+denies+Raul+approach&lid=2&channel=Football_Home&f=rss)

i hope Robinho scores today vs Paraguay :lui:

damm im glad we are playin a friendly against liverpool!!

robinho will score 2 goals today , u will c :fool:

and btw, is it true that pablo garcia is comin 2 our team??

damm im glad we are playin a friendly against liverpool!!


I'm sure if Gerrard is not already transfered to Chelski or another team that pays at least 40M £ - by then - the roumours will be all over the press.

"exclusive - secret meeting between Stevie G & Real Madrid"

what midfield would that be :rockman:
Becks - Stevie G - Gravesen - Zidane
and Owen-Ronaldo upfront

eh, i said this once already, Gerrard without Liverpool is half the player imho. if he wont be playing for pool, he wont be playing with that much heart, and he'll lose alot of quality.

eh, i said this once already, Gerrard without Liverpool is half the player imho. if he wont be playing for pool, he wont be playing with that much heart, and he'll lose alot of quality.
with the amount of money they would be payiin him if he moves to real, then
he will play with all his heart... :rockman:

Robinho earned a penalty today, and scored a goal later, for a Brazil 4:1 win :).
he played good, but who wouldnt with such a team :p.

Second Division B

First Leg: Zaragoza 'B' 0 - 0 Real Madrid 'B' :lui:

Second Leg, next sunday :jap:

Hey guys :ewan:



I am back unfortunately :nape:. I had a great time at the beach :hump:. I wish I could have stayed a bit longer.

I was hoping we would atleast have a signing by now, oh well. :kader:

Does anyone want to give me a quick summary about the week for Real Madrid please ?

Hey guys :ewan:



I am back unfortunately :nape: I had a great time at the beach :hump:


I was hoping we would atleast have a signing by now, oh well. :kader:


Does anyone want to give me a quick summary about the week for Real Madrid please ?

welcome back rusi, u didnt miss much really

we have signed a player, pablo garcia the midfielder from osasuna, he will be announced after copa del rey

it's been reported madrid will go after ballack and sergio ramos

also, some other teams revealed 'interest' in robinho like arsenal, but we know where he's headed

that's about it i think

Hey do you guys think we should make a swoop for Ashley Cole now, cause i reckon he's the best Left Back in the world, we could rotate him with R. Carlos for this season and then first choice next season.

i really would like to see Cole, Robinho, ramos and a few backups arrive this season.

:rockman:

Ashley Cole is black, and not a Brazilian, Spanish or Portuguese black. He's English black.

Unfortunately, he would get booed mercilessly in Madrid, have racist chants against him, and be persecuted for that exhibition game against Spain in October.

Anyways, it doesn't matter, he has said he would never want to play in Spain and especially Madrid due to racism.

A couple things...

- Raul to Liverpool = Yeah right!!! :boohoo:
- I'm very anxious to see what # Robinho gets... :ewan:
- Owen should start, or else send him back to Liv...he doesn't deserve being tagged as a "bench"-"back-up" player. (C)

...and most importantly:

- ANY DATES, NEWS, LOCATIONS ON MADRID'S TOUR? :D

Hey guys :ewan:



I am back unfortunately :nape:. I had a great time at the beach :hump:. I wish I could have stayed a bit longer.

I was hoping we would atleast have a signing by now, oh well. :kader:

Does anyone want to give me a quick summary about the week for Real Madrid please ?

welcome back :ewan:

a quick summary? like Shakespeare said: "much ado about nothing" :jambo:

a lot of rumors, and nothing real... just some news about Pablo Garcia and the usual stuff about Robinho and Sergio Ramos.

Hey do you guys think we should make a swoop for Ashley Cole now, cause i reckon he's the best Left Back in the world, we could rotate him with R. Carlos for this season and then first choice next season.

i really would like to see Cole, Robinho, ramos and a few backups arrive this season.

:rockman:

impossible... too much money for a backup. :jap:
_____________________________

AS has a lot of news, but the only one who looks real is this:

Real Madrid would extend Beckham's contract until 2009 (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050606dasdaiftb_23&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050606)

they have some other news about Cole, Gerrard and Adriano, but the sources are The Sunday Times and TribalFootball.com :rofl:

Interesting news . . .

Here are my predictions for our first team next year.

Starting XI

----------------------------------Casillas----------------------------------
Salgado/Ramos---Woodgate/Helguera----Samuel---Carlos
------------------------Helguera/Gravesen/Garcia-------------------------
Beckham----------------------------------------------------Raul/Zidane
---------------------------------Zidane/Raul----------------------
------------------------Owen----------------Ronaldo----------------------


Bench

Robinho, Ramos/Salgado, Woodgate/Helguera/Gravesen/Garcia, Guti, Solari

I really want to see what will the team be next year when all the transfer are made.

oh and one more thing rusi, guti has said he wants to leave the team :(

oh and one more thing rusi, guti has said he wants to leave the team :(


How has Guti been this year?

How has Guti been this year?

Magnificent.

And that's regardless of which position Luxemburgo, Garcia Remon or Camacho had him play in.

He was simply magnificent all year with his tackling, incredible passing and his amazing playmaking abilities.

oh and one more thing rusi, guti has said he wants to leave the team :(
Did you hear him say that?


Don't belive the BS! :kader:

Whats the situation with Minambres? Is he on loan or was he sold? If he comes back (if he was on loan) do u think he is good enough to stay at Madrid and become a regular? He's a rightback isnt he? Replace Salgado in few years??

What about Ruben? I thought he wa supposed to be the next Hierro?

Whats the situation with Minambres? Is he on loan or was he sold? If he comes back (if he was on loan) do u think he is good enough to stay at Madrid and become a regular? He's a rightback isnt he? Replace Salgado in few years??

What about Ruben? I thought he wa supposed to be the next Hierro?

Miñambres, Loaned to Espanyol, where he didnt even played.

Ruben? Next Hierro????? Um...no.

Did you hear him say that?


Don't belive the BS! :kader:

there was an interview with him in AS i think where he said he wanted to play more, which isnt going to happen if he stays in madrid

essien is close to agreeing to stay at lyon:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=282682&CPID=24&CLID=&lid=2&title=Essien+nears+Lyon+agreement&channel=Football_Home

anyone interesting to see a short Figo Video...
just visit this link in Real Madrid's Website
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma23716.htm

i also think it is kinda weird they release a Figo compilation video (:/)

That was a nice complimation, maybe it is telling us something.

feels like a "Thank you, and good luck to wherever you go" video ;).

I liked it alot. 5 wonderful years in the best club in the world.

Figo was great during his time in Real Madrid. I just hope the best for him.

figo is a legend (Y)

anyone interesting to see a short Figo Video...
just visit this link in Real Madrid's Website
http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma23716.htm

i also think it is kinda weird they release a Figo compilation video (:/)

it's like "thanx a lot, you were great, but :ewan: "

direct link: mms://stream1.terra.es/cseguro/rmadrid/rmadrid0269.wmv?url=24241218173116 (use a download manager)

http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20050607dasdaiftb_9&type=Ies

Roberto Carlos praises Pablo Garcia (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050607&xref=20050607dasdaiftb_10&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb)

"He's the perfect player for our team"
"Robinho wants to play in Real Madrid"
"Guti is a symbol of Real Madrid, he's the second captain. He can't leave, and i don't want him to leave" (Y)

http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20050607dasdaiftb_42&type=Ies
(look, the Hilton sisters) :crazyboy:

Capello wants Guti (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050607dasdaiftb_15&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050607)

Guti in a juve shirt??? :-puke:

Capello is willing to make a Guti-Emerson swap :rolleyes: sounds like BS to me

http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20050607dasdaiftb_42&type=Ies
(look, the Hilton sisters) :crazyboy:


LMAO !

:funny: :funny: :funny:


Yeah, I think Juve will end up with Guti :(

No way they'll give us Emerson for him.


I agree with Roberto, I think Pablo Garcia is the kind of player we need, a fighter like Tommy

looks like our super-subs are leaving us. Guti is on his way out, and now Solari is expected to sign for Inter in the next hours (thats what Marca says anyways :)). Man, the bench for next season seems ****. Offensivly we're gonna have Portillo. wow... :). Lets just hope Robinho comes, and a winger would be nice.

That's fu*kin' great!

Barcelona which is a champion yet sign van Bommel, Ezquerro
Real which suck second year... and what? We supposedly have Figo, Guti and Solari out.

Does anyone have a REAL Figo compilation. That was a nice video, but it didnt show his game. Im looking for something nice on Figo. Let me know...

That's fu*kin' great!
Barcelona which is a champion yet sign van Bommel, Ezquerro
Real which suck second year... and what? We supposedly have Figo, Guti and Solari out.

Van Bommel - that wonderful player was on a bosman-free...(probably all other clubs were in their winter sleep)

true - if these 3 players go - reinforcements are needed urgently
all that "maybe" go-ers are midfielders....

who's left then: Becks, Zidane, Gravesen...ev Helguera
who went/goes: Celades, Figo, Guti, Solari

It is sad to see Santi leave which is probably what will happen within the next couple days.

He deserves more playing time which is something he isn't getting at Real Madrid. Atleast we re-signed him during the season or else he would be leaving on a free-transfer.

If both Guti and Santi leave we'll really have to buy 6 players like it was reported earlier. I hope Guti stays though.

Marca also says that Inter want Samuel too. :nape: We must keep Walter, he showed his class in the second half of the season. I don't understand why we would sell him.

Lastly, is anyone else pissed that Patetico got a great coach in Carlos Bianchi. :nape:

yeah, read that today, probably Riquelme going there now too. but we have Luxemburgo :D.

Van Bommel - that wonderful player was on a bosman-free...(probably all other clubs were in their winter sleep)
Yeah, I know...and that's another reason why it's great sign.

Barca have great van Bommel for free, we will have Pablo Garcia for 8-10 mln Euro(from what I read) :nape:

Lastly, is anyone else pissed that Patetico got a great coach in Carlos Bianchi. :nape:

Long time ago I want to see Bianchi in Real.
From what I remember we even want to engage him but he refuse. And he's in Patetico now..fu*k him :rolleyes:

its not important who they sign. and we signed what we needed, while barca signed 2 players while already having that position full. just wait till the end of the transfer window, its been like a week.

damn i will be really sad if we lose guti and solari, i really like both those guys :nape:

******* ****!!! :kader:

Celades, Cesar, Guti, Samuel, Figo and Solari out?!?!?!?

and according to Marca, Floren wants either Baptista or Ballack ( both :sb9:, i prefer Guti & Solari :nape: )

It is sad to see Santi leave which is probably what will happen within the next couple days.

He deserves more playing time which is something he isn't getting at Real Madrid. Atleast we re-signed him during the season or else he would be leaving on a free-transfer.

If both Guti and Santi leave we'll really have to buy 6 players like it was reported earlier. I hope Guti stays though.

Marca also says that Inter want Samuel too. :nape: We must keep Walter, he showed his class in the second half of the season. I don't understand why we would sell him.

Lastly, is anyone else pissed that Patetico got a great coach in Carlos Bianchi.

Solari is such a good player, now his career is soon-to-be-ruined by Inter :(

don't you remember 2003 summer? we sold/loaned/released like 8 players (Makelele, McManaman, Celades, Morientes...) and we bought one (Beckham)... and we all know what happened next :(

this looks bad, really, really bad. we won't find another 6 players as good (or cheap) as the ones we had. :kader: and Luxemburgo wants a lot of brazilian players we CAN'T have (non-EU players).

Bianchi will have another euro-fiasco at Atletico. He already failed (miserably) coaching Roma. Atletico needs to sell Torres, their stadium and all their ****ty players, and then, build a new team, to be successful again :ewan:

Perez once again think that get rid of many player, and buying one or two 'galactico' will fix everything? He try it two times and it give as only problems. We have many players which needs to be change or cover (Beckham, Zidane, R. Carlos, Salgado, Gravesen)
Will Perez ever learn something from his own mistakes?

We're heading to another great year of succes for Real madrid :) (6)
Man I can't wait for the Liga to start... :p

vitu, next year we'll meet in the finals, and destroy you :D. and Barca is gonna be fielding 4 offensive midfielders next season i guess, should be fun ;).

i dont want guti to go....
but i think he wants to though, cuz he doesnt get enough playin time...

but if we buy really good players,then there is no problem about it. :hump:

ballack, or gerrard will be a good deal!!

i dont want guti to go....
but i think he wants to though, cuz he doesnt get enough playin time...

but if we buy really good players,then there is no problem about it. :hump:

ballack, or gerrard will be a good deal!!


Problem is that we need players like Guti and Solari for us to succeed.


A team with all superstars will never succeed.

It will be terrible if things don't change.

Barca is gonna be fielding 4 offensive midfielders next season i guess, should be fun ;).

at least they'll have 4 offensive mid :( :(

we'll have only 2 in the whole squad: Zidane (32) and Beckham (30). no backups, no youth, nothing! :nape:

i dont want guti to go....
but i think he wants to though, cuz he doesnt get enough playin time...

but if we buy really good players,then there is no problem about it. :hump:

ballack, or gerrard will be a good deal!!

Ballack: +20m
Gerrard: 40m

too much :nape:

it looks horrible... i hope those news are all fake :(

damn, its only like the first week. dont die on me now ;). by the end of the summer, we'll be where we want to be. we have 160 million to spend or how much, and even if we dont spend it all, we can buy 5 world-class players with that. and we dont even need world-class players.
I know its a shame about Guti and Solari, they've helped the team when they needed them, and are perfect for the squad. i just find it ridiculous to get all pissed now, before we made any moves.

i dont want guti to go....
but i think he wants to though, cuz he doesnt get enough playin time...

but if we buy really good players,then there is no problem about it. :hump:

ballack, or gerrard will be a good deal!!

I thought that only Florentino had these kind of ideas.. :nape:

Guti and Solari shouldn't be sold, but wait It's Real Madrid :chew:

Does anyone have a Real Figo compilation. That was a nice video, but it didnt show his game. Im looking for something nice on Figo. Let me know...

Here you go: http://rapidshare.de/files/1641724/Luis_Figo_Compilation___Se7eN__.wmv.html
:jap:

Solari :shades:

another Argentinian will probably be added to our squad :)

damn, its only like the first week. dont die on me now ;). by the end of the summer, we'll be where we want to be. we have 160 million to spend or how much, and even if we dont spend it all, we can buy 5 world-class players with that. and we dont even need world-class players.
I know its a shame about Guti and Solari, they've helped the team when they needed them, and are perfect for the squad. i just find it ridiculous to get all pissed now, before we made any moves.

oh, wait, when did i hear that before? yes, last summer! and the summer before! and the summer before that! :(

we won't spend 160m, we have the money, but Floren isn't so stupid to spend it all.

ok, if Guti, Solari and Figo leave, who should replace them?? we can't buy world class players, because we would have to bench some 'galacticos' (Zidane, Beckham, Raul, Owen, Ronaldo or Robinho). and to buy 'backups' would be dumb: we already have the backups, but we're selling them! :nape:

It's true that's only the first week, but Valencia already signed Kluivert and Edu, Barcelona signed Van Bommel and Ezquerro, Atletico has a new coach, Betis got Regueiro, etc... we only have a ****load of rumors :( and instead of buying, we are selling :(

imo: :f***: :f***: :f***:

patience, my friends :). its not Florentino's job to do the signings anymore, we have Sacchi now :).

And I remember when we try to sign Alaya in LAST day of transfer window. :nape:
So I rather like to see new player as fast as it's possible, than hear again: we try to buy someone but we miss.

Maybe we panic to much :) but after 2 years with nothing this is understandable.

its still so early to start complaining, plus i have more faith with sacchi and luxemborgo on board, hopefully sr. perez will listen to them :jambo:

if solari does leave, good luck to him, i've always enjoyed watching him play

patience, my friends :). its not Florentino's job to do the signings anymore, we have Sacchi now :).

the way i see it:

- Florentino wants world-class/shirt-sellers (Robinho, Gerrard, Ballack)
- Luxemburgo wants brazilian players (Luisao, Robinho, Alex... even Maldonado, who isn't brazilian, but he plays in the brazilian league)
- Sacchi wants Serie A players (De Rossi, Cassano, Gilardino, Pizarro, Mancini, Emerson)
- Butragueño wants spanish players (Del Horno, Sergio Ramos, Joaquin)

Luxemburgo asks for a player, Sacchi makes the deal, Butragueño is the assistant/consultant and Perez takes the final decision.

And I remember when we try to sign Alaya in LAST day of transfer window. :nape:
So I rather like to see new player as fast as it's possible, than hear again: we try to buy someone but we miss.

Maybe we panic to much :) but after 2 years with nothing this is understandable.

(Y) exactly. The 'world' tour starts on July 14th (Chicago). We MUST have at least 2 new players (3, with Robinho, if we finally sign him) by then. If we just have one signing, i'll panic :eek: :eek:

Florentino, you have one month : sign or die :jambo:

:crazyboy:

Realistically...*sorry if I burst your bubble* (H)

Signed: P.Garcia
Our "for sure" signings: Robinho, S.Ramos
Our "long shot" signings: Joaquin or CR7, CM??? (Gerrard,Ballack,Maldonado,???)

A grand total of 5 signings this summer. :jambo:

Sergio Ramos is not a 'for sure' signing

Garcia is, Robinhois close to for sure, not Ramos...yet

We need a young, talented RM that is willing to sit on the bench and play as a Sub. WE don't have a good back-up for Becks

Forget Joaquin and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Honestly.

You're setting yourselves up for some major disappointment if you're expecting us to sign either of them.

Oh, and Sergio Ramos, is far, far, far from a "for sure" signing. Hell, Sevilla has said that Real Madrid is _NOT_ one of the three clubs to actually put forth a real offer for him. Madrid is one of the many, many clubs "interested" in him, but only three teams have actually tabled bids over to Sevilla.

I would like:

Sell Guti, Figo, Solari, Celades, Samuel

Buy Pablo Garcia, Baptista, Joaquin, Sergio Ramos.

I think we could get Joaquin to come if we guaranteed him a starting spot on the right wing, but with Beckham out there I don't think he will want to come.

We aren't getting C. Ronaldo for atleast 1 more year if we ever get him.

I would like:

Sell Guti, Figo, Solari, Celades, Samuel

Buy Pablo Garcia, Baptista, Joaquin, Sergio Ramos.


Why do you want Baptista ?

I don't get why we are rumored for him.


Also, I think we should keep either Guti or Solari, hopefully Guti

I would like:

Sell Guti, Figo, Solari, Celades, Samuel

Buy Pablo Garcia, Baptista, Joaquin, Sergio Ramos.Thats insane dude. Baptista replacing Guti?! Samuel leaving... :nape:

I agree with RUSI on CR7, but we all know Florentino...I guess sooner or later he'll be wearing a Madrid jersey. (6) ...unless Guti, and Solari leave (both on left side) CR7 could see average playing time. and that means a sh*tload of money!!! :lui:

sergio ramos is far from a sure signing

also, sacchi is not interested in just serie a players, he is the one that picked out gravesen and has also scouted sergio ramos

edit: ronnifan9, why do u have a barca player above your name, i know he's mexican but still... :-puke:

I personally feel that BOTH of Guti and Solari need to stay.

I have no worries that both of them will, anyhow. Guti is our 2nd captain, Madridista to the core and will stay... and Santi just got a contract extension and says he loves being with Madrid irregardless of his playing role.

I suspect they'll both be key figures in Luxemburgo's rotation of midfielders next season in hopes of keeping the likes of Zidane and Raul fresh. The insertion of Robinho into this rotational system would add excitement, youth and much-needed creative dribbling while actually incorporating _SPEED_! I definitely think Madrid needs speed badly and Robinho will offer this.

Pablo Garcia will add much needed reinforcement in the defensive midfield position, thus allowing Guti to probably play a more attacking role when he comes on. Is Woody can actually be healthy to start the season, I'd suspect we'd see Helguera slot into the midfield as well. This is likely where I hope Luxemburgo incorporates a two DM/CM system.

We could have phenomenal choices to go with as a 2 DM/CM system:

Helguera - Gravesen
P.Garcia - Helguera
Gravesen - Beckham
Gravesen - P.Garcia :p (they'd kill opponents)
Beckham - Helguera

I'd like to see us incorporate two DMs/CMs and then have two 'attacking' midfielders. In such a role, the likely rotation could be:

Robinho - Zidane
Solari - Guti
Zidane - Solari
Guti - Robinho
Robinho - Solari
Zidane - Guti

I'd be confident with any of these pairings there.

Then, at striker, you go with:

Raul to start the game for 45-60 mins, then Owen
Ronaldo

I think this would work well as Owen can benefit from attacking tired defenses and Raul remains our captain, starts the games, and gets a good amount of time to produce. Owen has failed miserably in the games he has started anyhow, so this would work much better. Of course, Ronnie goes for the full 90 mins. as he's just too good.

In my ideal starting XI, I'd go with:

------------------Casillas------------------
---------Woodgate------Samuel------------
--Salgado-----------------------R.Carlos---
---------------------Gravesen-------------- (or P.Garcia)
-------Beckham---------------------------- (or Helguera)
-----------------------------Zidane-------- (or Solari/Guti)
------------Robinho------------------------ (or Guti/Solari)
-------------------------Raul--------------- (or Owen)
------------------Ronaldo------------------

I've chose to put each of the midfielders/strikers on individual lines to get the point across of their preferred roles. Beckham would be able to push out right for his crosses whilst attacking, but can also contribute defensively as we all know he will do no matter what we may want/think. Zidane has somewhat of a free role on the central/left side, while Robinho is a central attacking midfielder. Raul slots up front, but also comes back alot to help that left side where Zidane/R.Carlos is. This is the reason Gravesen is there to ensure a solid DM presence. Ronaldo of course is the most pushed up as he's our most lethal threat.

What do you guys think?

mega montana... :( ...how dare you! jk

He's Mexico's ICON, the "golden boy", the "it" guy, ...and yeah, he does play for barca. :kader:

If it bother you so much, I'll remove it after the game we have w/ T&T this Wednesday. :jap:

FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums. :ewan: Gotcha! :D

FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums. :ewan: Gotcha! :D

RUSI does it alot, too.

No problem in trying to get different people's opinions.

mega montana... :( ...how dare you! jk

He's Mexico's ICON, the "golden boy", the "it" guy, ...and yeah, he does play for barca. :kader:

If it bother you so much, I'll remove it after the game we have w/ T&T this Wednesday. :jap:

FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums. :ewan: Gotcha! :D

just teasing man, rafa is a great player, too bad he is stuck in barcelona ;)

Marquez is one of the best mexican player they got but like they said too bad he play in Barcelona.

ok, now that i'm more calmed:

Chapter I: Who's out?

Out
César
Celades (both already out)
Figo
Guti or Solari (not "and"... or!)

On Loan (or to RM B, if they win the promotion to Segunda)
Borja
Portillo
Mejía
Arbeloa

Chapter II: Lineup

assuming that we will sign Robinho, P. Garcia and S. Ramos (we should get them, sooner or later), my dream line-up would be:

1)
------------ Casillas ------------
Salgado - Helguera - Samuel - RC
----------- Gravesen -----------
---- Beckham --------- Raúl ----
------------ Robinho ------------
------ Owen ------ Ronaldo -----

Bench
Diego Lopez (GK)
Sergio Ramos
J. Woodgate (remember, i'm dreaming (6) )
F. Pavon
P. García
Z. Zidane (yes! on bench :jambo: )
Juanfran
Guti or Solari (whoever stays... we must keep one of them)
R. Bravo :-puke: (unless S. Ramos could play LB...)
Javi García
Jurado or Soldado

2) (more probable)

------------ Casillas ------------
Salgado - Helguera - Samuel - RC
----------- Gravesen -----------
---- Beckham ------- Zidane ----
-------------- Raúl -------------
----- Ronaldo ------ Robinho -----

Bench
the only change is: Owen out / Zidane in

22-23 players: ok. but it doesn't look too much better than the squad from last season

Chapter III: The Backups

if Luxa keeps the diamond:

Positions / Players / My Opinion
GK: Casillas and Diego López (ok, but Lopez is too unexperienced)
RB: Salgado and S. Ramos (ok)
RCB/LCB: Helguera, Samuel, Pavón, Woody, R. Bravo and S. Ramos (great)
LB: R. Carlos, R. Bravo and S. Ramos (ok)
RW: Beckham and Juanfran (!)
CDM: Gravesen, Guti (?), Helguera and Pablo García (good)
LW: Guti and/or Solari, Zidane, Raúl (good... maybe Robinho could play as LW again)
CAM: Guti (?), Zidane, Raúl and Robinho (ok, but it would be better if Guti stays)
FW: Raúl, Ronaldo, Robinho, Guti (?) and Owen (great)

unless Juanfran gets a LOT of experience in the U-20 World Cup, we will need another RW.

:jambo:

Nice stuff, Raiko...but I though Juanfran was on his way to Zaragoza. Ramos can play RM. Zizu on the bench, I don't agree. He'll be better this year, Euro tired him out...thats why he had "good" games and those games where he couldn't stop giving the ball away with his one-touch passes.

-Lineups will alwasy be changing 'cause of Red Card, Suspensions, and Injuries...so everybody should get plenty of playing time.

f*ckin awesome posts guys (Y) (Y) (Y)

I'll do something like it with what I think later.

I agree that we have to keep either Guti or Solari, preferably Guti.

yea nice post raikko

hopefully we get someone to backup roberto carlos and get rid of raul bravo, there arent words to describe how awful he is

do u guys think we'll sign anyone else if we get robinho, ramos and garcia?

Nice stuff, Raiko...but I though Juanfran was on his way to Zaragoza. Ramos can play RM. Zizu on the bench, I don't agree. He'll be better this year, Euro tired him out...thats why he had "good" games and those games where he couldn't stop giving the ball away with his one-touch passes.

-Lineups will alwasy be changing 'cause of Red Card, Suspensions, and Injuries...so everybody should get plenty of playing time.

yeah, that's why i put 2 lineups... i guess we will use the second one

Red Cards and Suspensions: Samuel & Gravesen (6)

f*ckin awesome posts guys (Y) (Y) (Y)

I'll do something like it with what I think later.

I agree that we have to keep either Guti or Solari, preferably Guti.

i'll try to post Chapter IV and V tomorrow night (C)

AS.com

Ballack is the main target (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050608&xref=20050608dasdaiftb_15&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb)

Gerrard is impossible, so we'll try to sign Ballack... but we wouldn't pay more than 15m euros (damn, AS stole my ideas! i already said that in the last post!)

120 millions for signings (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050608dasdaiftb_20&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050608)

looks like "don't worry if we haven't signed **** yet, we have cash, you know?" :nape:

exactly the same news they published two weeks ago (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050524dasdaiftb_2&type=Tes&d_date=20050524&anchor=dasftb). assholes.

Helguera: "I'm waiting the call from Real Madrid" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050608dasdaiftb_19&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050608)

The negotiation to renew Helguera's contract hasn't started yet :nape:. He wants to stay, and Sacchi wants him to stay. as a bonus, the article ends with the classic "the club isn't happy with Samuel/Samuel would leave" stuff :rolleyes:

If we could pay 15 million to get Ballack I am all for it. He is a great player (Y)

I think we defiantely need a cover for Beckham on the RW because I don't think Juanfran can. Also, If Ramos doesn't come we should buy atleast 1 back-up full-back.

I pray for 2 things:
- that our players will not be too dissapointed if they do not start every match.
- that we sell Raul Bravo. :ewan:

120 million is alot of money
maybe we could trade a player like samuel and give some money to a team..
so they will give us a better defender. :rockman:

i personally want some1 else instead of Samuel
Also Woodgate will be ready next year, so we have to count on him..

Madrid discards Joaquín sign
Much has been inspected on Joaquín's possible sign by Real Madrid, but the true thing is that the technical reports of the director of football, Arrigo Sacchi, and of the vice-president, Emilio Butragueño, they have discarded the sign for this period of the Andalusian mid-field player. Though Vanderlei Luxembourg has spoken good of Joaquín, in the club it is understood that it is a pure end and that the Brazilian technician has already given clear samples of which he does not like this type of football players.
marca.com (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641168,00.html)

Will we ever see him playing for Real Madrid? (:/)
Year after year we delay Joaquín sign.

Eeey guys what the thing, madrid says that they have 150 million to spend but they have only buyed garcia i hope that balack, robinho and ramos comes and nobody leaves. All the players of real are great so nobody is supposed to leave

Eeey guys what the thing, madrid says that they have 150 million to spend but they have only buyed garcia i hope that balack, robinho and ramos comes and nobody leaves. All the players of real are great so nobody is supposed to leave

they haven't bought a player yet (in the summer 2005 transfer window)

Starting XI

----------------------------------Casillas----------------------------------
Salgado/Ramos---Woodgate/Helguera----Samuel---Carlos
------------------------Gravesen/Helguera/Garcia-------------------------
Beckham----------------------------------------------------Zidane/Raul
--------------------------------Raul/Zidane--------------------------------
------------------------Owen--------------Ronaldo------------------------

Bench

Robinho, Ramos/Salgado, Woodgate/Helguera, Gravesen/Garcia, Guti, Solari, D. Lopez


Options

GK: Casillas, Lopez
RB: Salgado, Ramos,
CB: Samuel, Woodgate, Helguera, Ramos, Pavon
LB: Carlos, Ramos
CM: Gravesen, Helguera, Garcia, Guti, Beckham
RM: Beckham, Robinho, Juanfran:S
LM: Zidane, Raul, Robinho, Solari
CAM: Raul, Zidane, Robihno, Guti
FW: Ronaldo, Owen, Raul, Portillo


Transfers

Buy:
Robinho
Pablo Garcia
Sergio Ramos
LB backup
RM backup

Bye:
Luis Figo
Raul Bravo
Albert Celades
Cesar

**I am praying that both Guti and Solari stay**

hey guys, lots of work for me lately so i havent found the time to post. yesterday i worked 13,5 hrs! :nape: overtime sucks, but the money is good. :)

Raikko and Roy, i really like your ideas of next year's line-ups. :rockman:

and if Solari and Guti leave. (i hope not) i would be very sad.
but i think it's just bullsh!t. let's hope it is.

I think Figo should stay another year. If only he would accept a Rui Costa type role off the bench. Figo may have to much pride to be on the bench, though. We'll see I guess.

I think Figo should stay another year. If only he would accept a Rui Costa type role off the bench. Figo may have to much pride to be on the bench, though. We'll see I guess.

no way does he stay if luxemborgo remains as coach, he'll never play

figo needs to play a lot of minutes to be ready for the world cup next year

i like that ballack is the main target, he's a very versatile player

every day i wake up and hope robinho is official...i really cant wait for this guy to sign :rockman:

RUSI, Robinho as RW?? :S

i have a question: can Ballack play as Right Midfielder/Right Winger (that weird position where Beckham plays)?

http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0608.jpg

why Baptista??? why for?? :nape:

Robinho for 16m (http://www.marca.es/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641473,00.html)

:| if this is true, it would be the best deal of the summer....

Arsenal wants Owen and Real Madrid wants Reyes (http://www.marca.es/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641166,00.html)

... and this would be the worst deal.

Olympique Marseille and Lyon are after Figo (http://www.marca.es/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641338,00.html)

can you imagine Figo playing in CL against Real Madrid?? (6)

RUSI, Robinho as RW?? :S

i have a question: can Ballack play as Right Midfielder/Right Winger (that weird position where Beckham plays)?


I'd rather have Robinho on the right wing than Juanfran :S

I don't think Ballack can, Where is -Vince- when you need him :)


16 million for robinho !!

BUY!! BUY!! BUY!!

why Baptista??? why for?? :nape:

(6)
Baptista can play in a lot of positions, is a great player for Madrid but i think is non EU player whos going out?

Madrid and Inter deal for Solari : Sport magazine says that madrid is close to be the new players of Mancinis Inter Milan, if its true good luck to him :ewan:

I'd rather have Robinho on the right wing than Juanfran :S

I don't think Ballack can, Where is -Vince- when you need him :)

hahaha (6) the only time we need a Bayern fan in RM Thread, we can't find it.

Baptista can play in a lot of positions, is a great player for Madrid but i think is non EU player whos going out?

Baptista will receive his citizenship soon (July, i think), he won't be a non-EU player.

He can play in a lot of positions, but in those positions, we have better players :jap: and we don't want his enormous ego at Real Madrid.

i think ballack plays more in the middle, either right behind the strikers, or he can play as a defensive midfielder in the diamond formation

as much as i like baptista, we dont need him, i'd rather get his sevilla teammate, sergio ramos

I dont know why Baptista is so under-rated, his stats are:

19 goals (3 penalties) in 33 matches. In La Liga, being the best offensive player of Sevilla. 19 goals in 33 matches maybe are the best stats of any player in any european league knowing he was not playing as 1st forwards, and sometimes not even playing as 2nd forward, but playing as offensive midfielder.ç

He is 24 years old, and it played as defender until one year ago, now as offensive player he is showing he is amazing!

I believe he is so underrated cause he is not the usual line-up of Brazil. Where he must compete against Kaka or Ronaldinho.

Lets see the stats of Ronaldinho in La Liga:

9 Goals (2-3 penalties) in 35 matches, and throwing every single free kick. Playing as Offensive midfielder, only behind Etoo, sometimes also Giuly.

We need to get robinho as soon as possible and owen for reyes :kader:

Here is a quick info on Ballack

yes he is best at playing the middle, He can also play a DM role which is why i admire Ballack. He doesn't care about playing in the DM role to help out in the middle to win the midfield battles. He can also play in the offensive side which he is also great at (ex: Heading, Passes, shooting). His attitude is great too he always sticks up for his teammates and isn't afraid of anyone. I wouldn't say he loves to start sh!t but he can sometimes get in to little or even strong virbal words. But outside of football he never gets introuble, He is a Player who never gives up. If u want to put him next to Graveson on the team. It would be good for u guys. call them the bash brothers :p, I don't want bayern to sell Ballack but for the right price he can be urs :)


(*this info is coming from a fan outside Germany :p I know Vince will probably give more details about ballacks but what i have seen in the CL and Bundesliga games I always been impressed with Ballack)

can you imagine Figo playing in CL against Real Madrid?? (6)

I can :)
Remember Morientes with Monaco??? (6)

I dont think Figo will play in France.

I really can't see Figo playing in france either

Palencia is the key to getting Sergio Ramos !

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050609&xref=20050609dasdaiftb_27&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

a few more articles:

Adriano says Madrid contacted him:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050609dasdaiftb_28&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050609

He will not leave this year, but maybe next year. He also called Robinho a phenom

cover of marca...robinho's dream is real madrid
http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0609.jpg

not sure if anyone posted this, madrid have agreed to a price of 16 million euros for robinho

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641473,00.html

At this point i think we wont get C.Ronaldo or Joaquin, since Beckham (selling shirts and playing OK in last matches) althought is not amazing he is not the worst player of the team as he showed in the last 10 matches playing as Right Winger.

yeah, I agree. I just hope Joaquin doesn't leave to Chelsea or Barcelona. Hopefully he stays at Betis and we can maybe get him next year. (6)


News on Baptista and Ballack. http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641671,00.html

It says that we are trying to get them although Butragueño and Sacchi think we already have similar players on the team which is what I think.

Also, Valencia is intrested in Figo. http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641672,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4076838.stm

Looks like Woodgate is finally back and running, and will be ready for the new season. I wonder if he would be back to his best after being out for one and a half seasons.

I think we may never see Joaquín in Madrid. We could try to buy him in 2003 but Perez choose Beckham. IMO next right winger after Beckham will be another shirt seller...

haha Palencia the key to Sergio Ramos?

Those Madrid papers can't find anything better to write.... :boohoo:

a few more articles:

Adriano says Madrid contacted him:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050609dasdaiftb_28&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050609

He will not leave this year, but maybe next year. He also called Robinho a phenom

cover of marca...robinho's dream is real madrid
http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0609.jpg

not sure if anyone posted this, madrid have agreed to a price of 16 million euros for robinho

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,641473,00.html

Does this meen that robinho will join us

man, so much good news! :hump:

Robinho for 16m, what a deal!!

i hope we get Baptista, but Ballack would be nice too. i think both is unneccesary.

this Solari deal is growing stronger. i hope it never happens :nape:

sky is reporting that there have been 4 bids for joaquin...including real madrid, barca, chelsea and man united

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=283348&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Betis:+Four+bids+for+Joaquin&channel=Football_Home

interesting that we are still after him

If Woody is heathy 100%, and working ONLY on his fitness...we should be fine, and not have to buy a CB.

I can't wait for Robinho's pic holding his white jersey. :hump:

me neither, ronnifan. i've been waiting on Robinho deal to be official since January.
i think he's going to be BAD ASS in Madrid. :rockman:

im hoping for this line-up next season


--------------Casillas-------------
---------Helguera--Samuel--------
--Salgado-----------------Carlos--
--------------Gravesen-----------
----Beckham-------------Zidane--
-----------------Raúl--------------
-------Robinho--------------------
-----------------Ronaldo----------

man, so much good news! :hump:

Robinho for 16m, what a deal!!

i hope we get Baptista, but Ballack would be nice too. i think both is unneccesary.

this Solari deal is growing stronger. i hope it never happens :nape:
they said they wanted 16m in december, not now
maybe now they want way more than that :rolleyes:

****... i hope figo stays... he still one of the best......
amazing player

wish the best

Can someone tell me how did Robinho play against Argentina?

He was decent.

Robinho had some nice moments but our defense neutralized him for most of the match. He was the first to be substituted.

**

It'd be great if Figo could stay and be like Rui Costa at Milan, ut Luis wants to play in the World Cup so he needs minutes.

sadly, Figo won't be like Rui Costa... if he didn't like to be on the bench in the last matches (when the team was fighting for the title), he won't want to be on bench a whole season :nape:

we are going to need him if we don't sign another RW/RM (nobody answered my question :( can Ballack play as RW/RM? )

http://www.marca.com/fotos05/realmadrid05/robinho050509.jpg
fantastic news about how bad Robinho wants to play in Madrid :) the #8 shirt is waiting for him :jap:

Marca had a poll yesterday, about "which player would you sign for Real Madrid?". the results (aprox.)? Baptista 20%, Ballack 25%, Both 20%, None 35% (H)

I really hope Real Madrid can sign Robinho fast to see him in Madrid jersey. :rockman:

He was decent.
Robinho had some nice moments but our defense neutralized him for most of the match. He was the first to be substituted.



That's what I'm afraid of - when he will be play in Europe defenders better then brazilian will easily neutralize him.

http://www.marca.com/fotos05/realmadrid05/robinho050509.jpg
fantastic news about how bad Robinho wants to play in Madrid :) the #8 shirt is waiting for him :jap: ...is the #8 jersey a fact? the number is an important part of a player, simple the saying a # is enough to remember a popular player

...9, Ronaldo
...10, Pele Maradona




...8, Robinho :lui:

5 - Zidane

(nobody answered my question :( can Ballack play as RW/RM? )

Ballack definitely cannot play on the wing like a RW does, but he can definitely play as a RCM, but this spot is occupied by Beckham anyhow.

...is the #8 jersey a fact? the number is an important part of a player, simple the saying a # is enough to remember a popular player

...9, Ronaldo
...10, Pele Maradona

...8, Robinho :lui:

i'm just guessing, because...

# / Player
1. Casillas
2. Salgado
3. R. Carlos
4. ? (Borja could be loaned)
5. Zidane
6. Helguera
7. Raul
8. ?
9. Ronaldo
10. ? (Figo :rolleyes: will he leave? will he stay?)
11. Owen
12 or 13. Diego Lopez (GK)
14. Guti
15. R. Bravo
16. Gravesen
17. ? (Portillo could be loaned too)
18. Woodgate
19. Samuel
20. ?
21. Solari
22. Pavon
23. Beckham
24. Mejía
25. ? (Third GK?)

in La Liga, the players can't wear a number higher than 25.

and even if Figo leaves, NO WAY Robinho would wear #10. He has to earn it first :jap:

5 - Zidane

yeah, but he chose that number because it was the only one available between the 1 and 11 (Sanchis, who used to wear that shirt, retired one season before Zizou came to R. Madrid)

Ballack definitely cannot play on the wing like a RW does, but he can definitely play as a RCM, but this spot is occupied by Beckham anyhow.

thx :jap: so, he could replace Beckham in that position, if the english is suspended or injured :D

Number 10 for Ballack!

Number 10 for Ballack!

seriously? i thought spanish people wouldn't want Ballack

4 -> Ramos?
8 -> Robinho?
10 -> Ballack?
20 -> P. García?

:rolleyes:

thx :jap: so, he could replace Beckham in that position, if the english is suspended or injured :D

No, Ballack can't play on the wing, or even as a RCM, he is strictly in the middle. Why even buy him to play out of position or back up Beckham? He should be playing right smack dab in the center of the midfield every day. Back far enough to play defense (because his D is pretty good), but up far enough so he can get involved on offense and most importantly get his head at crosses. He's a tank, he can (and should) play every single game.

Ballack won't wear your ****ty #10, he wears #13. Please don't buy my favorite player from my favorite club and my second favorite national team fellas. I don't want to buy a Madrid jersey :(

EDIT: Oh yeah, and he'll immediately shoot up to second most attractive member of the Real Madrid team. What a handsome man.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and he'll immediately shoot up to second most attractive member of the Real Madrid team. What a handsome man.
3rd if you ask me. Becks>Iker>Ballack. What?!!! ...I'm a very secure guy, no problem with poiting out our handsome players. :rolleyes:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050610dasdaiftb_7&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050610

as.com is again talking about getting rid of Samuel and Owen ! :kader: :kader: :kader:

If Ballack comes, he'll wear 13. What if Owen wanted the # 10 :o

So the robinho deal is done thats great. By the way brazilian player that have RO in the name are always great like ROnaldo,Robinho,ROnaldinho an ROberto carlos and ROmario so i hope he will be the next player to come in this line.

this is my line up for next year:

--------------Casillas------------- the subs: Guti,solari,portillo,raul,helguera
---------Woodgate--Samuel-------- lopez, Ramos and bravo
--Salgado-----------------Carlos--
--------------Gravesen-----------
----Beckham-------------Zidane--
----------------------------------
----Owen----Ronaldo----Robinho
If we done this it will be great and we must be champions next year.

this is a line up for next year which I'd like.
(if Ramos & Robinho comes, Woodgate is fit and Figo stays)

--------------Casillas--------------
-Ramos-Woodgate-Helguera-Carlos-
--------------Gravesen------------
--Beckham----Zidane--Robinho/Figo-
---------Owen-----Ronaldo---------

subs: Salgado, Samuel, Guti, Solari, Raul & Figo/Robinho

PETITION give Becks #7,17 or 10

My line up is much better and by the way nobody gives garcia and sub place or a line up place! is he so ugly?

My line up is much better and by the way nobody gives garcia and sub place or a line up place! is he so ugly?

because Gravesen is better. :ewan:

some news:

MILAN REJECT PIRLO/GUTI SWAP (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/spain/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=soccer/05/06/10/manual_081737.html&TEAMHD=spain)

UNITED LEAD OWEN RACE (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/spain/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/05/06/10/manual_064553.html)

and did anyone see R6 goal against Argentina?? what a canon!! :O

Gravesen is indeed a very underrated player (appart from Everton and now Real Madrid) where we know him now.

Saw Roberto Carlos goal = rocket

Roberto Carlos's goal was ******* amazing. You just cant save a shot like that :).

why the **** would Real Madrid sell Owen, Samuel and Solari??

for the first time in, i don't know, 4 years?, we were between the top3 teams with less goals allowed... and now they want to replace Samuel with Ramos. if we sell Samuel, and Ramos ends up being a big flop (like Mejia), i wouldn't know what do to: to cry, to laugh or both. what really piss me off is that all the newspapers are asuming that Woodgate will be 100% fit for next season. come on! the man hasn't play a professional match since march 2004. i don't care if Samuel receives a yellow in every game, i prefer him over Woodgate or Pavon (let's not talk about Mejia and Bravo, PLEASE). besides, if we're after Ramos because we need a backup, it would be stupid to sell a starter! we would need another backup (Woodgate won't last two months healthy)!

about Owen, 16m euros???? this MUST be a joke. the "midget" :crazyboy: has been amazing this season, he scored more goals than Raul and Zidane together, playing half of the time, giving us crucial wins (Albacete, Valencia, Dynamo...), and if Floren wants to make a "clean" Owen-Reyes swap, he must be on drugs. imo, Owen = Reyes + at least 5-10m. Jose can stay crying in London (H)

Solari... eh, this deal wouldn't be bad, Guti would have more chances, we would get cash and maybe (i wish) an option over Adriano. but if they want to replace him with Baptista... :nope. Baptista is so overrated, and he would come only because he loves money. Solari has said a hundred times he loves Real Madrid, and he has showed an incredible commitment with the team.

final words: Milan wants a Guti-Pirlo swap??? muahaha, i can write better BS than that.

PS. Portillo to Zaragoza on loan, almost confirmed. Villa would move to Valencia because Kluivert didn't pass the medical test :eek:

I agree 100%, man

I really hope what the papers are writing is not what the club really thiks because it is f*cking stupid.


I have no idea why we would want to sell Samuel and Owen !!! :f***:

From Mundo Deportivo, A Barcelona Newspaper.

Pablo Garcia fo 7.5 million (http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20050610/NOTICIA197582328.html)

We have signed Pablo Garcia for 7.5 million and it will be official after the Copa del Rey final.

Sorry for the triple post but I can't get my mind off of this sh*t. :nape:

We can't change the team too much or else it will take half of the season for the players to get used to eachother (such as Barça two years ago).

Get 4 players at the most ! - Sergio Ramos, Pablo Garcia, Robinho, Michael Ballack/Joaquin

Why not ?!

That's about 70-80 million euros in transfers. We have over 120 million to spend.

Why would we want to sell Owen and Samuel, we'd have to get replacements for them too which isn't neccessary.



Portillo almost loaned (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050610&xref=20050610dasdasftb_6&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbA00)

Figo negociating with Lyon (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050610dasdasftb_3&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050610)

F*ck this article ! (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050610dasdaiftb_7&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050610)

Roberto Carlos's goal was ******* amazing. You just cant save a shot like that :).


Buffon.. :jambo:

Buffon.. :jambo:

you wish (H)

mmm... a very, very interesting article in AS

Michael Owen for Cristiano Ronaldo (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050611dasdaiftb 16&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050611)

but the woman who wrote it is the same one who apologized to Figo (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050512dasdaiftb_20&type=Tes&d_date=20050512&anchor=dasftb) for writing a "rumor" about him (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050506dasdaiftb_8&type=Tes&d_date=20050506&anchor=dasftb)

if this is true, what do you people think? good or bad deal? i really, really don't know what to say (and that's weird, you know? :crazyboy: )

and there are some other articles: Cesar will sign for Zaragoza, and Portillo would be loaned there...

i dont want c. ronaldo, especially for michael owen :nape:

C. Ronaldo is an excellent player, but i dont know how he would do in the spanish league. imho, if we sign him, its going to be a good move, especially if Owen goes the other way. Look at it this way, Zidane said he doesnt want to play left wing. So we go back to Raul/Ronaldo in attack, Zidane or Robinho behind them, C.Ronaldo left wing, Beckham right wing. would be good :). the only problem is, Luxemburgo doesnt like wingers that much :).

C. Ronaldo is an excellent player, but i dont know how he would do in the spanish league.

he played in portugal so the addaption to LaLiga wouldn't be a problem at all.

is RM coming to Austria or Switzerland again this summer for a short training camp?

I think that Michael Owen for Cristiano Ronaldo would be a great deal!
we know Luxa wants C. Ronaldo so this could very well be true. i mean Ronaldo is 19 yrs old and one of the best wingers in the Premiership. i think he's 2nd best, after Arjen Robben.

if he signs for us he should have #10 :rockman:

just imagine this midfield diamond next season :O

----------Gravesen-----------
--Beckham-------C. Ronaldo--
------------Raúl--------------

Ronaldo's contract talks stalled (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=283894&CPID=8&CLID=1&lid=&title=Ronaldo+talks+have+stalled&channel=Premiership)

Real offer Owen for Ronaldo (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_objectid=15618371%26method=full%26siteid=94762% 26headline=real%2doffer%2dowen%2dfor%2dronaldo-name_page.html)

Zidane to quit Real in 2006 (http://www.wldcup.com/news/2005Jun/20050610_30664_world_soccer.html)

Kaiser fears Ballack exit (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/Article.asp?id=283665)

Samuel won't be sold for under 24 million euro (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,642078,00.html)

I really dont like the idea of Owen and C.Ronaldo trade.Owen should stay in Madrid.

Number 10 for Ballack!


ballacks number was always 13 and will ever be 13...

btw: ballack is way better than beckham....
so beckham would be ballacks replace as rcm

I really dont like the idea of Owen and C.Ronaldo trade.Owen should stay in Madrid.

I agree :jap:

is RM coming to Austria or Switzerland again this summer for a short training camp?

Austria, in late July (after the world tour)

I think that Michael Owen for Cristiano Ronaldo would be a great deal!
we know Luxa wants C. Ronaldo so this could very well be true. i mean Ronaldo is 19 yrs old and one of the best wingers in the Premiership. i think he's 2nd best, after Arjen Robben.

if he signs for us he should have #10 :rockman:

Zidane to quit Real in 2006 (http://www.wldcup.com/news/2005Jun/20050610_30664_world_soccer.html)

if Zidanes is going to retire next season, i would give him the #10 :jap:

ballacks number was always 13 and will ever be 13...

btw: ballack is way better than beckham....
so beckham would be ballacks replace as rcm

don't worry, he can wear #13 in Real Madrid (H). Beckham sucks as RCM, but as RW, he is better than Ballack.

___________________

The Copa del Rey Final is today... no one is going to broadcast it, because they had some problems with the tv rights :kader: (the owner asked too much $$$). No matter who wins it, Pablo Garcia's signing would be announce tomorrow (6)

its is so sad to see the best player ever retire
ZIZOU = GOD

its is so sad to see the best player ever retire
ZIZOU = GOD


Wrong, Maradona is the best player ever.

nah, Zidane is better than Maradona ever was imo.

the way that he plays almost seems effortless... that's why he's so amazing. He just has so much self-confidence and skill that he can just glide past anyone.

Have you ever seen Maradona play ?

What you just said can be said double about Diego Armando Maradona.

maybe it's because i'm English and i think he's a cheating f'ucker. But i still think that Zidane is the better player out of the two.

And yes i have seen Maradona play, not live or anything as i am too young but i have watched numerous amounts of games with him involved from my parent's archives.

both are great, but i think maradona is better, even if he did play for barca (6)

zizou is the best of his generation

i cant wait to watch the copa del rey final to get an idea of what pablo garcia can do

who is pablo garcia?

Yeah, Pablo was a doubt, but he's starting.

He's a CDM of Osasuna who will sign for Madrid soon, very physical player. Lots of yellows (6)

do u think he is Real Quality?

He isn't a superstar a la Gerrard or Vieira but we have enough superstars. Pablo Garcia is a very good midfielder though. He's a lot like Gravesen.

im happy that players like P. Garcia get signed. the guys who do the dirty work is always needed and he's gonna be a great back-up for Tommy. :)

£10million plus Michael Owen in exchange for Cristiano Ronaldo

the question is, will Man United accept? (6)

i understand this would be a good move for us, but how would it be a good move for United? they have like 5 strikers on the team now already. C. Ronaldo really deserves a better contract tho :).

your right, Drvar. for them, this wouldn't be the best deal, but it's strange that they haven't offered Cristiano a new contract yet. man, i get hyped now about this deal. he would be the perfect Figo replacement. :)

Well, I hope it's not going to happen offcourse. We do have too many strikers and if we would get another, I don't think the fans would like (well i would'nt like) an ex-Liverpool player anywhere near Man United. Fergie and Carlos both admire C.Ronaldo and they wont let the board leave him just like that. I know that Owen is class and Ronaldo is still young, but Owen + £10 mil is a joke. Cristiano is underpayed and with Glazer and hes debts coming to the club, the contract negotations have freezed, but hopefully the deal will be done soon. There are rumours about we having to sell our top players but it would'nt make too much sense.

Try to get Joaquin instead :(

i dont get all the owen rumors, i think he'll stay, he impressed me last year

too many baseless rumors in the summer time :nape:

I dont see why Manchester United need another striker they got many.

Try to get Joaquin instead :(

Tell that to Madrid Staff :(

When are Madrid ACTUALLY going to sign someone????
this is getting annoying. all the other teams have someone signed already. Madrid need defesive backups, and a good RL winger.

When are Madrid ACTUALLY going to sign someone????
this is getting annoying. all the other teams have someone signed already. Madrid need defesive backups, and a good RL winger.

Pablo Garcia's signing is said to be announced right after Copa Del Rey final.
and since the final was yesterday, it should happen at anytime today. (or tomorrow)

Austria, in late July (after the world tour)

thx for the info

Real Madryt B is already winning 1:0 with Saragossa B :)

Real Madrid 'B' 2 - 0 Zaragoza 'B' (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050612&xref=20050612dasdasftb 7&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbC00) :lui:

Arbeloa scored the 1-0, and Borja (the good one, the one who played the European U-20 Tournament) scored the second goal (H)

They played at the Bernabeu. Attendance: 27.000 :rockman: more than Juve on Serie A!!! (6)

I hear you are linked with Tomas Ujfalusi... Any truth? If so, this would be one of the best signings you could make.

we shouldnt pay manutd for C.Ronaldo,, Owen is enough and they should pay us for given the Owen. :kader:

I hear you are linked with Tomas Ujfalusi... Any truth? If so, this would be one of the best signings you could make.
Helguera and Ujfalusi as CBs? Sounds like gold in my ears.. :lui:

Does Ujfalusi suck ? I haven't seen him play since the Euros...


Why not move Ivan to CDM with Tommy and play Walter with Woodgate(if healthy) or Ramos(If Woodgate is hurt).

i would like 2 see the team like this next year, if guti, figo, samuel,and solari are leaving :nape: and if we sign ballack robinho and ronaldo :hump:

--------------------------- casillas------------------------
salgado----woodgate(Samuel)-----Helguera(Ramos)-----R.Carlos
---------------------Gravesen (Ballack)--------------------
----------Beckham----------------------- C.Ronaldo(Zidane)
--------------------- Zidane(Raul)------------------------------
--------------Robinho----------------Ronaldo------------
or

--------------------------- casillas------------------------
salgado----woodgate(Samuel)----Ramos(Helguera)--R.Carlos
------------------------Gravesen ()-------------
-----Beckham----------------------- Ballack----
---------------Zidane----C.Ronaldo---------
-----------Robinho(Raul)-----Ronaldo-------

Real Madrid 'B' 2 - 0 Zaragoza 'B' (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050612&xref=20050612dasdasftb 7&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbC00) :lui:

Arbeloa scored the 1-0, and Borja (the good one, the one who played the European U-20 Tournament) scored the second goal (H)

They played at the Bernabeu. Attendance: 27.000 :rockman: more than Juve on Serie A!!! (6)Any good news besides this one... :rockman:


...too much reading. (C)

Real Madrid 'B' 2 - 0 Zaragoza 'B' (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050612&xref=20050612dasdasftb 7&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbC00) :lui:

Arbeloa scored the 1-0, and Borja (the good one, the one who played the European U-20 Tournament) scored the second goal (H)

They played at the Bernabeu. Attendance: 27.000 :rockman: more than Juve on Serie A!!! (6)

This team B can go very far. :rockman:

you want news?

i have a very bad one...

Henry is Florentino's dream (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050613&xref=20050613dasdaiftb 6&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb)

please, no :nape:

Pablo Garcia will be 'officially' signed next week (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050613dasdaiftb 8&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050613)

his agent is in Argentina :rolleyes: that's why he hasn't sign yet :S

Racing wants Juanfran and Borja (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050613&xref=20050613dasdaiftb 22&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb)

you want news?

i have a very bad one...

Henry is Florentino's dream (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050613&xref=20050613dasdaiftb 6&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb)


I dont have nothing againts Henry but Perez should still dream for now cuz we dont need him now.

I hear you are linked with Tomas Ujfalusi... Any truth? If so, this would be one of the best signings you could make.

I agree 100%.

He's fantastic, and would add a TON of stability to our club.

Henry at Real......? Puh-Lease.
Maybe after we've really and truly sorted out the racist woes and when we're minus a couple strikers....until then, lets let Perez dream and hope he takes it no further than that

Beckenbauer doesn't think Ballack would/could turn down Real Madrid and he will leave if Real try to get him.

Interesting stuff... Ballack would be a dream signing.

we shouldnt pay manutd for C.Ronaldo,, Owen is enough and they should pay us for given the Owen. :kader:


Haha :D

:sb9:

i would like 2 see the team like this next year, if guti, figo, samuel,and solari are leaving :nape: and if we sign ballack robinho and ronaldo :hump:

--------------------------- casillas------------------------
salgado----woodgate(Samuel)-----Helguera(Ramos)-----R.Carlos
---------------------Gravesen (Ballack)--------------------
----------Beckham----------------------- C.Ronaldo(Zidane)
--------------------- Zidane(Raul)------------------------------
--------------Robinho----------------Ronaldo------------
or

--------------------------- casillas------------------------
salgado----woodgate(Samuel)----Ramos(Helguera)--R.Carlos
------------------------Gravesen ()-------------
-----Beckham----------------------- Ballack----
---------------Zidane----C.Ronaldo---------
-----------Robinho(Raul)-----Ronaldo-------

Where is Owen ?!
and Ballack can't play LM/LW

my line up if there wouldn't be new sinings/departures and woody is fit.

-----------------Casillas---------------
-Salgado--Woodgate--Helguera--R.Carlos-
--------------Gravesen ()---------------
--Beckham-------------------------Figo
-----------------Zidane-----------------
-----------Owen--------Ronaldo---------

subs: Samuel, Raul, Solari, Guti and ?

if we get
Ramos - put him in at RB or CB
Ronaldo - instead of Figo

Seven8, Raul will _NOT_ be on the bench for Michael Owen. I assure you that.


Madrid don't want Michael Ballack anymore. (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,642612,00.html)

Mejía has options to go in the Bundesliga. (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,642614,00.html)


I think we'll make a run for Baptista now.

Baptista = :sb9:

in that case, i prefer Ballack (although i don't want any of them)

did anyone see Marca's cover?

http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0613.jpg

Joaquin to Barça: 20m euros :-puke:

imo, for Real Madrid, Joaquin > Henry >>>>>>> Baptista

the next season looks bad, very bad. 1 month for the beginning of the world tour and NO signings yet, and the rumors are all about players we don't need at all

ok, now that doesn't make any sense at all. why would Joaquín leave Real Betis when they just won Kings Cup and are qualified for CL next season? and to Barcelona?!? if his dream is to play for Madrid he should never go there. :kader:

Yeah, I forgot to post that.

That would be some of the worst news of the summer if Joaquin went to Barcelona.


We have to stop Joaquin from goingto Barca, I don't carehow much we spend.

It would be terrible if Barca acquired him.

this doesn't make any sense: if Betis would sell Joaquin in 20m euros, why don't we buy him?? :nape:

i agree that his dream is to play in Real Madrid, but if Real Madrid don't want him, it isn't Joaquin's fault. He has been amazing this season. if we end up with Henry or Baptista (or both!) and Joaquin goes to Barça, i will be really mad :kader:

besides, Joaquin isn't as cocky or overrated as them :rolleyes:, and he's spanish! if we are going to sell Guti, and loan Portillo and Borja (and Cesar and Celades already gone), we'll need more spanish players in the team :jambo:

i really hope Floren won't do anything stupid (like sign Reyes :-puke: ) if Barça gets Joaquin.

As I said earlier, I really hope the newspapers are wrong. Some of what we are rumored to do just doesn't make sense.

I've also said earlier that IMO getting Baptista would be a bad move. I don't think we have room for him on our team.

Yeah, I forgot to post that.

That would be some of the worst news of the summer if Joaquin went to Barcelona.


We have to stop Joaquin from goingto Barca, I don't carehow much we spend.

It would be terrible if Barca acquired him.


Be calmed, it sounds like a big hoax... Barcelona papers dont talk about it, and yesterday Joaquin said "Dont care who talk with Betis, i wont leave this team " or something like that.

real are favorites to land henry..supposedly we would spend 75 million euros for him :nape: article also mentions that luxemborgo wants c. ronaldo

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284361&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Real+tipped+to+land+Henry&channel=Football_Home

figo admits he wants to move to england

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284194&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Figo+reiterates+Prem+desire&channel=Football_Home

madrid to decide on owen's future..nothing really new, he is happy at madrid, but would leave if they dont want him blah blah blah

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284114&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Real+to+decide+Owen+future&channel=Football_Home

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284496&cpid=23&CLID=186&lid=&title=Zaragoza+seal+Cesar+deal&channel=Spain

Cesar officially to Zaragoza.

Best of Luck. :jambo:

Bah, there is many blablabla about signing/leaving but it seems 90% of that blablabla are lies.

Yeah, I wish I could just wake up and it be Aug. 30 and know what we've done except I don't want to skip my summer.

My revised list of players I want :

Robinho, Joaquin, Ramos, and Pablo Garcia/Julio Baptista (Only if Helguera can't play CM/CDM)

Yeah, I wish I could just wake up and it be Aug. 30 and know what we've done except I don't want to skip my summer.

My revised list of players I want :

Robinho, Joaquin, Ramos, and Pablo Garcia/Julio Baptista (Only if Helguera can't play CM/CDM)

i like your list rusi :ewan:

i wouldn;t mind Baptista playing for Real if i was a fan. This guy can play anywhere. DM, CM, AM, and FW. Great player to have on your team

i wouldn;t mind Baptista playing for Real if i was a fan. This guy can play anywhere. DM, CM, AM, and FW. Great player to have on your team


Agree.

About Baptista i believe we will have it for free the next year. Sevilla dont wanna sell, Baptista wanna leave and earn a lot of money, free transfer = more money for Baptista.

Where is Owen ?!
and Ballack can't play LM/LW

my line up if there wouldn't be new sinings/departures and woody is fit.

-----------------Casillas---------------
-Salgado--Woodgate--Helguera--R.Carlos-
--------------Gravesen ()---------------
--Beckham-------------------------Figo
-----------------Zidane-----------------
-----------Owen--------Ronaldo---------

subs: Samuel, Raul, Solari, Guti and ?

if we get
Ramos - put him in at RB or CB
Ronaldo - instead of Figo

thats exactly the same formation of this yea....
just that luxe started using figo as a CAM .
and where is Raul in ur formation? :rolleyes:

thats exactly the same formation of this yea....
just that luxe started using figo as a CAM .
and where is Raul in ur formation? :rolleyes:
raul is the weakest in madrid.... his place is on bench!!!!

raul is the weakest in madrid.... his place is on bench!!!!
Maybe he will join Morientes in Liverpool

Raul won't leave. He will retire at Real Madrid (his contract ends in 2010).

reading AS, i found out that Baptista doesn't have an EU passport :eek: so we can't have him (uh, i feel soooooo sad...(H) ), unless we sell Samuel :(. Maybe next year :ewan:

Figo could go to Villareal (http://www.emol.com/noticias/deportes/detalle/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=185298)

yeah, the source isn't very good, but it was the first newspaper to announce Villareal's last signings (Valencia and that argentinian gk).

that'd be weird if figo played for any other spanish team

wherever he goes, i wish him the best of luck

Raikko, I read somewhere that he would get it in early August. Is that wrong? :confused:

Raikko, I read somewhere that he would get it in early August. Is that wrong? :confused:

who? :confused: Baptista and his citizenship? i read that too, in Marca, i think

Figo could go to Villareal (http://www.emol.com/noticias/deportes/detalle/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=185298)

yeah, the source isn't very good, but it was the first newspaper to announce Villareal's last signings (Valencia and that argentinian gk).

if figo goes to villareal? then what would we get in exchange??

I am sure that Figo will not go to Villareal.

:nape: ok so Madrid, seold alot of people, but havent actually bought anyone!! Great. The same great thing theyve been doing the last couple of years.....sell 20 get 1. ITs been working so great too.....

:nape: ok so Madrid, seold alot of people, but havent actually bought anyone!! Great. The same great thing theyve been doing the last couple of years.....sell 20 get 1. ITs been working so great too.....

Who have we sold?

if figo wants to experience the English League then why dont we trade him for C.Ronaldo. Owen should stay at Real so he can show what he is really capable of. Many teams want Luis Figo so if we arenot gonna use him atleast get some money for him! i would hate to see him go but when idiots reign good ideas are washed away.

i would like to see Robinho, C.Ronaldo, and Ramos.
i dont know much about Pablo Garcia but we already have 2 CDM's (grav + ivan) and Julio Baptista sounds good if ballack isn't gonna come.

does anyone think zidane will play a beach role next year...eg.. comming on at 50-60minutes?

Who've we sold Will ?

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=&xref=20050614dasdaiftb_16&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbA00

We are talking about getting a back-up full-back Carlos Diogo from River Plate and Uruguay. I like the idea, we need a back-up full-back. I don't know if he has a passport though.

http://www.as.com/futbol/as/clubes.php?competicion=0269&ideq=1

Three articles about him. He's called 'The next Cafu'


Edit ::: He's got a passport with his Italian Mother.

is it madrid already signed robinho?

Diogo is a very good player (Y) it would be a great sign

AS bashing Samuel again for an interview
http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050614dasdaiftb_20&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050614

assholes :kader: i'm going to write a letter to them (6)

+ the usual BS about Henry :rolleyes:

Edit: no, we haven't sign him yet... and i'm wondering if all this rumors about Henry are because we won't sign Robinho :eek: :S

I'm exited about this Diogo kid, well isn't he like 24? I guess it's still young... :)

When they made the comparisons to El pupi Zanetti, I got the chills... :lui: !!!

thats exactly the same formation of this yea....
just that luxe started using figo as a CAM .
and where is Raul in ur formation? :rolleyes:

as sharkman said - he is benched

and about the formation thing

didn't Figo play sometimes on the left and changed back and forth with C.Ronaldo in the Por NT?

Zidane is way better CAM than LM because he is not too far out on the side and can create much more.

arrrgh i hate waiting! :)

i dont get this samuel bashing, how come woodgate gets no flak for missing the whole season? :nape:

My bad, I was under the impression we sold players already. Maybe thats all the talk and hype that Im getting lost in.

There's a million reports in Italy that Real will loan Samuel to Inter(right to buy him the year after).

wtf???

I AM TIRED OF THIS SAMUEL TO INTER SH*T !!!!!

I don't understand :nape:

arrrgh i hate waiting! :)

i dont get this samuel bashing, how come woodgate gets no flak for missing the whole season? :nape:

Because Woody was "un/lucky" enough not being able to play so he couldn't show how good OR bad he is.

IMO Samuel is a good defender - but he gets too many YC. Sill aslong as Woody doesn't play and we don't sign new CBs we only have Samuel/Helguera and a half one in Pavon.

cover of marca, sacchi wants gerrard :confused:

http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0614.jpg

osasuna wants to negotiate pablo garcia's transfer

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643037,00.html

a team from qatar is interested in figo :rolleyes:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643044,00.html

adriano will not leave inter for real madrid

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,642970,00.html

samuel could play next year for inter

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643077,00.html

interview with casillas, he wants to retire at madrid

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643131,00.html

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma22883.htm

Real Madrid put a page on their website for players 'bought' by the press.

haha, great page :). quite a team we have there ;).

Is Marca something like The Sun in the UK?

Anyway, I don't know if this is posted before but according to this Ronaldo wants to stay at United. I hope he gets the new contract soon :(

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=184683&itype=466&icategoryid=120

no, Marca has very close ties with Madrid, but they do print alot of crap, less than AS though. The Sun is a unique paper, it cannot be compared to anything else in the world. That article about Makelele's 12 inch sausage is still imprinted in my brain. not good, not good...:(

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma22883.htm

Real Madrid put a page on their website for players 'bought' by the press.
WTF? Pier Luigi Buffon?

i like that were trying to get Diogo. Woody isnt thrustworthy. and if Samuel leaves we only have 1 good CB.

Ujfalusi rumor a fake

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun13i.html

C. Ronaldo wants to stay at United

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=184683&itype=466&icategoryid=120

Rafa plays down Guti talk :)

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/Article.asp?id=284460

Diogo is 21 yrs old. and his signing could be closed within hours. according to AS.
he has the same agent as Pablo Garcia, who's also expected to be signed very soon.
:)

Diogo is a very good full-back. played for the NT too.

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Real Madrid to play two matches in Japan

- Real Madrid will play two pre-season games against Japanese clubs Tokyo Verdy and Jubilo Iwata next month, match organisers said on Tuesday.

The Spanish giants face Verdy on July 25 and Jubilo two days later as part of their pre-season tour of Asia.

The Sun is a unique paper, it cannot be compared to anything else in the world.

Bild in germany would be quite the same i think

i just heard that samuel has been loaned to Inter is this true ?

Samuel is going nowhere i dont why there so many rumors for nothing :nape:

Read around next time.

It's a rumor.

i just heard that samuel has been loaned to Inter is this true ?

it's just a rumor from Marca

RUSI, that page is hilarious :D

hahaha, nice find rusi, amazing how much crap is out there

now if we only had a real signing to discuss :jambo:

hahaha, nice find rusi, amazing how much crap is out there

now if we only had a real signing to discuss :jambo:


At least we can have some fun laughing of Marca, one year ago!

http://www.informativos.telecinco.es/imgsed/Carvalho_450.jpg

http://www.informativos.telecinco.es/imgsed/Edu_450.jpg

the best one below! Barça fans will love it too ... Translated "Etoo will be a Madrid player"

http://www.informativos.telecinco.es/imgsed/Etoo_450.jpg