http://www.informativos.telecinco.es/imgsed/Vieira_450.jpg

http://www.informativos.telecinco.es/imgsed/Vannistelroy_450.jpg

http://www.marca.es/primeras/03/06/g0606.jpg

:fool: :fool:

" Jar-Jardinho " (H)

hahaha

ahhh summer time rumors...at least some of those from last year were close : vieira and carvalho

the others were pure crap tho: eto'o, ronaldhino, ruud :fool:

any day now there will be a real signing, i hope

lmao :funny:


Did you guys have those saved ??

Can you find more like it anywhere other than trying to click all the way back?


I wish we would have gotten Carvalho and Samuel. That would have been perfect.


EDIT :

Actually getting them and Vieira would have been perfect.


EDIT#2: I doubt this will happen -

http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/05/g0509.jpg

I figured it out...

Here's a good one :)

http://www.marca.com/primeras/02/05/g0516.jpg

Edit:

another http://www.marca.com/primeras/03/06/g0623.jpg

Check out Ronnie's hair. :fool:

edit: it takes ages to load, so

Pires (2000) (http://www.marca.es/primeras/00/junio00/g0610.jpg)

Zanetti (2001) (http://www.marca.es/primeras/01/julio01/g0708.jpg)

Rivaldo (2002) (http://www.marca.es/primeras/02/07/g0721.jpg)

Rooney (2004) (http://www.marca.com/primeras/04/07/g0709.jpg)

Emerson & Carvalho (2004) (http://www.marca.com/primeras/04/07/g0715.jpg)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

AS.com

Ramos will be signed only if Samuel leaves (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050615dasdaiftb 21&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb&d date=20050615)

suckers :kader: if Ramos fails as CB, i will copy/paste all these articles in one long e-mail and i will send them a copy (6)

Raúl: We need 23 or 24 players in the squad (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050615dasdaiftb 25&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb&d date=20050615)

Real Madrid close to sign Diogo (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050615dasdaiftb 18&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb&d date=20050615)

this looks like total BS. i readed it carefully, and it 'smells' :sb9: :p

lol Raikkonen on the fake URL. :)

I don't think we'll get Diogo either, too.

What team does Diogo play for ??

thanks for all those old covers of marca, they are pretty funny

can anyone find the covers for guys we actually signed?

edit: diogo plays for river plate, he is from uruguay, but has an italian passport

http://img.terra.com.br/i/2004/07/22/149983-2786-ga.jpg

http://www.penarol.org/fotos/diogo_carlos1.jpg

http://www.futbol.com.uy/noticias/2001/river45.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20050327/i/1027983742.jpg

What team does Diogo play for ??
he plays for River Plate of Argentina i think he is called up occasionally for Uruguay.

Diogo can play as RB and maybe as RM/RW (he could play in that position tomorrow, River would use a 3-5-2 vs Banfield)

i really don't trust in Ramos as CB. Don't get me wrong, he has talent, he's fast, young, but there isn't anything like playing in Real Madrid, specially as CB. The pressure could break him (...aneeeelkaaaa...) and selling Samuel for 15m?? AS must be on crack.

AS must be on crack.

They always have been

Diogo looks like a beast...but i can't picture him on our squad for some reason. Oh yes, does anyone have updates on rumours of Guti\Solari\Samuel transfers?

Diogo looks like a great signing, but with him and Ramos potentially signing...Woody coming back at some point....does this mean Samuel could leave? :(

sky sports say we are close to buying diogo as a replacement for solari

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284885&cpid=23&CLID=&lid=10&title=Real+line+up+River+raid&channel=Spain

figo has no shortage of suitors, bolton are now interested:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050615&xref=20050615dasdasftb_3&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

madrid has already started negotiations with diogo

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050615dasdaiftb_18&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050615

samuel is for sale for 15 million euros, the buying of diogo will not effect sergio ramos

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050615dasdaiftb_21&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050615

marca claims gerrard is the next 'galactico', madrid have contacted benitez twice already :rolleyes:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643619,00.html

solari to inter will be done this week:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643472,00.html

benitez wants juanfran

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643623,00.html

another article about interest in diogo:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643459,00.html

he was surprised that madrid wanted him

15m € for Samuel? WOW!!! I'd buy him.

Why sell him though, did u guys buy a decent replacement?

15m € for Samuel? WOW!!! I'd buy him.

Why sell him though, did u guys buy a decent replacement?


For Juve is 20€ millions, no noo, for Juve is 35 € millions + Emerson :boohoo:

For Juve is 15€ millions + Zalayeta :ewan:

i was hoping that Diogo, S. Ramos and P. Garcia's transfers was closed by now. :)

if we sign those 3 players i will be very happy! and guys, tonight is 2nd leg between Santos and Atleticó Paranaense. if Santos get knocked out of Copa Libertadores, then Robinho can be a Merengue tomorrow! :rockman:

just a thing...

whats the point in getting 2 RB like Ramos and Diogo?

I mean Ramos can play as CB too, but mainly he is a RB! we could have 3 RBs with M.Salgado, Diogo and Ramos.

So getting Diogo is stupid cause Salgado can play at least 2 or 3 years at top level. In that time Ramos could play as sub-RB or CB if needed being a defense than can play in every position!

but it means NO playtime for R. Bravo :lui:

Diogo looks like a great signing, but with him and Ramos potentially signing...Woody coming back at some point....does this mean Samuel could leave? :(

I'm not being biased here and so I'm going to admit that I think PAblo Garcia doesnt deserve to wear the Real Madrid shirt.

But Diogo and now Lugano? Diogo is only 21 and well <Jap Stam + Roberto Carlos= Diogo (in looks for Stam :p)..........he's a fenomenon <incredibly skilled for a defender and marks as well as Stam>

Like when I heard Pablo Garcia I was like ...."What?....thats stupid". (so was everyone in the room <many who are from spain>) But when Lugano was announced on TV....everyone seemed to agree without question. The guy has been the best defender in the brazilian league (foreign player or Brazilian) for like 3 years now. He's a beast.

Again, dont know about Garcia (he failed miserably in Milan).....but as for Diogo and Lugano...you can be 100% sure that you have 2 future legends coming this summer (picture Roberto Carlos arriving years back). Great buys (Y)

3 Uruguayans in Real Madrid :rockman:

15m € for Samuel? WOW!!! I'd buy him.

Why sell him though, did u guys buy a decent replacement?

Poor Samuel....I think they should give him another change...it was his first year and all.

Lugano announced on TV? what are you talking about man?

I think the only ones that want Samuel to leave are the media. The fans and the club seem happy with him. I know I wouldn't sell him. Ecspecially with his performance in the second half of the year.

c. ronaldo set to sign new contract with united:

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/s/162/162493_ronaldo_agrees_new_deal.html

woody will be training all summer, he will train with the team in july

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4076838.stm

I think the only ones that want Samuel to leave are the media. The fans and the club seem happy with him. I know I wouldn't sell him. Ecspecially with his performance in the second half of the year.


I want Samuel to leave, cause we need a faster player.

Lets be honest, he didnt played like we expected (knowing we paid 25m €), is really possible he will sucks the next seasons aswell, so if we can get 20-25m € for hi. I would sell him.

Samuel started to play good at the end of the season. I am sure that next season he will be better.

I want Samuel to leave, cause we need a faster player.

Lets be honest, he didnt played like we expected (knowing we paid 25m €), is really possible he will sucks the next seasons aswell, so if we can get 20-25m € for hi. I would sell him.

He only sucked for half a season this year. He did real good in the second half. Give him a chance. You won't regret it.

plus remember he played badly when there was no true defensive midfielder and his play picked up when tommy arrived...probably not a coincidence

For our system to work, we must have an anchor Centre-Half(Sweeper), a Speedy CB, (of course speedy wing-backs that can attack), and a hard-working CENTRE-DEFENSIVE-MID.

Between the time Makelele left and Gravesen came, we struggled with the latter(sp?). Now we have it complete and we're trying to change it. (N)

I swear if we sell Samuel for 15 million I might fly to Madrid and shoot Florentino. :f***:


I like the idea of getting Diogo, from what I understand he can also play RM and according to MARCA (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643459,00.html) can play LM, so that means he can also play LB. If we got him, we would have a great back-up at RB, RM, LB, & LM and if we got Ramos, he can play CB and RB. This is what the team needs more of : versatility.

I think Diogo would be an excellent buy, also get Ramos and Robinho and if and only if Helguera can't play CDM, then get Pablo Garcia. And if Florentino wants his Galactico like as.com was talking about today, he can get Joaquin or C. Ronaldo or someone else in late August.

PLEASE !!!

For Juve is 15€ millions + Zalayeta :ewan:

if you give us 25m for Samuel, you'll get a free gift: R. Bravo :lui:

sky sports say we are close to buying diogo as a replacement for solari

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284885&cpid=23&CLID=&lid=10&title=Real+line+up+River+raid&channel=Spain

another article about interest in diogo:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643459,00.html

he was surprised that madrid wanted him

:| :| "replacement for Solari" :| :|

Diogo: RB/RW
Solari: LW

:rolleyes:

Samuel played well in the second half of the season. We didn't have any true DM in the first half, and Samuel was adapting to La Liga. I say keep him, buy Ramos, release Woody and kill Bravo (6)

ah, i almost forgot

"Diogaláctico" (H) (http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=995757)

it's good to hear Jonnie Woodgate's getting better. I reckon he could be a real hit for Real as long as he can stay fit.

if you give us 25m for Samuel, you'll get a free gift: R. Bravo :lui:

LMAO :funny: (for the R. Bravo part)

25M what £ or € ? - because if it's £ sell him - we can get a decent replacement for that money and even bag some for other sinings.

I wish Solari all the best.

Is solari really leaving?
I think we'll end up at the end of the offseason with no good bench players, and when Zizou and co. get tired around Christmastime next season, we'll concede important points as a result

- If people are comparing Diogo to R.Carlos+Stam, shouldn't be Zanetti (since he's right footed) + Stam....just a thought. So basically he's a RIGHT WING BACK, right? not a RB/RM ... (C)

This is nice:

----------Ramos--Samuel--Helguera(Woodgate)------
---Salgado(Diogo)------------------------R. Carlos---

...Helguera also as a DM, Diogo also as a RWM (Beck's spot)

7 Defenders who could ALL start!!! ...and yes, I do prefer the 3 CB's, w/ 2 defending wingers. :D

solari's agent says his move to inter will happen very soon, possibly after the copa italia final
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285007&CPID=21&CLID=&lid=2&title=Inter+close+on+Solari&channel=Football_Home

he wants regular playing time, something he wont get at madrid

chelsea are the favorites to land joaquin :kader:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284829&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Blues+head+Joaquin+race&channel=Football_Home

Fvcken Joaquin! ...it's not his fault, but he could wait 1 year to join us. :rolleyes:

Adios Indiesito Solari, say "hi" to your sister for me. (H)

LMAO :funny: (for the R. Bravo part)

25M what £ or € ? - because if it's £ sell him - we can get a decent replacement for that money and even bag some for other sinings.

I wish Solari all the best.

€

for 25m £, i would give them Samuel, R. Bravo, Mejia and Pavon (H)

- If people are comparing Diogo to R.Carlos+Stam, shouldn't be Zanetti (since he's right footed) + Stam....just a thought. So basically he's a RIGHT WING BACK, right? not a RB/RM ... (C)

This is nice:

----------Ramos--Samuel--Helguera(Woodgate)------
---Salgado(Diogo)------------------------R. Carlos---

...Helguera also as a DM, Diogo also as a RWM (Beck's spot)

7 Defenders who could ALL start!!! ...and yes, I do prefer the 3 CB's, w/ 2 defending wingers. :D

Diogo plays as RB in both Uruguay NT and River Plate, but he could play as RW/RM tomorrow vs Banfield. i will watch the game only to see him playing as midfielder :)

solari's agent says his move to inter will happen very soon, possibly after the copa italia final
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285007&CPID=21&CLID=&lid=2&title=Inter+close+on+Solari&channel=Football_Home

he wants regular playing time, something he wont get at madrid

chelsea are the favorites to land joaquin :kader:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=284829&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Blues+head+Joaquin+race&channel=Football_Home

mmm... i don't know if Joaquin would want to move to Chelsea. well, i'll be ok if he goes anywhere but Barcelona (6)

Bye, Indiecito :ewan: . btw, your sister is hot :hump:

Sergio Ramos: "The Galacticos' era isn't over yet" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050616dasdaiftb 4&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050616)

The new 'galactico' would be signed in August, after the signings of the players we (really) need (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050616dasdaiftb 6&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050616)

The options: C. Ronaldo (Owen + $$$), Henry (Owen + $$$) and Gerrard. :rolleyes: why for? :(

Real Madrid will offer 5m euros for Pablo Garcia (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050616dasdaiftb 5&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050616)

:jap:

i really dont want any 'galacticos', unless u count robinho as one

i dont get this obsession of perez's, we have enough stars as it is :jambo:

It seems as if Madrid sign any of the 3 'galacticos' that Florentino wants...Owen would be the trade bait to get either Henry, Gerrard, or C.Ronaldo. I don't know what to believe anymore. As long as our backline is strenghtened...I'm good.

Santos 0-2 A. Paranaense

Santos out of la Libertadores (H) Robinho to R. Madrid after the Confederations Cup :lui: (i hope!)

Santos 0-2 A. Paranaense

Santos out of la Libertadores (H) Robinho to R. Madrid after the Confederations Cup :lui: (i hope!) :rockman:

You guys better get Robinho. I don't want him near Arsenal, Chelsea or whoever's in the Premiership.

santos eliminated as stated earlier..robinho could be announced soon! :rockman:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050616&xref=20050616dasdasftb_1&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

inter still want samuel...they offered 3 million to loan him for a year (at least that's what i think...someone correct me if i'm wrong)

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050616&xref=20050616dasdasftb_7&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

real betis president says joaquin will not leave

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050616&xref=20050616dasdaiftb_21&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

cover of marca...more bs about gerrard

http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0616.jpg

new rumor! luxemborgo has contacted brazilian/lyon defender cris about a move to madrid according to l'equipe

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643957,00.html

uruguyan lugano has been offered to madrid...barca, juve and inter are also interested..he has an italian passport

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,643873,00.html

I read in the confirmed transfer threads that Ronaldo is staying at Man U with a new and improved 5 year contract.

With Joaquim seeming more and more unlikely, we really should keep Figo. All Luxe has to do is rotate the squad every now and then.

Cris is an awesome defender. He would be a great buy. I love the skillful Brazillian defenders, although a rock in defense would truely benefit u guys. Other options shud b considered.

:rolleyes:

I read in the confirmed transfer threads that Ronaldo is staying at Man U with a new and improved 5 year contract.

With Joaquim seeming more and more unlikely, we really should keep Figo. All Luxe has to do is rotate the squad every now and then.

figo is gone, he just doesnt get along with luxe for whatever reason

i really dont want any 'galacticos', unless u count robinho as one

i dont get this obsession of perez's, we have enough stars as it is :jambo:

i guess his goal is to satisfy the 12 year old Madrid fans that only like the club because Beckham or Zidane is on the field. :boohoo:

i wish he would drop the whole Galactico thing for good.

Santos eliminated! Robinho isn't far away from Madrid now. but nothing will happen before Confederations Cup ends, i think. :)

Cris is very good. i hope we get him.
i like that alot of transfer rumors are defenders. because that's what Madrid needs.

You guys still have Woodgate. Once he is injury-free, he will put in solid performances.

i like that alot of transfer rumors are defenders. because that's what Madrid needs.

totally agree

It finally looks like they know where they need to improve (after they already got Gravesen)

Liverpool cancelled more or less all their pre-season friendlies becuase they have to go trough 3 qualifing rounds to reach the CL groupstage.

Does anybody know if the game against Real Madrid is still on?

who does Lugano play for, what position does he play and is he any gud?

figo is gone, he just doesnt get along with luxe for whatever reason

Figo is not gone yet and as far as he's concerned, he's ready to play for Real Madrid next year. Whether or not he will is still up for speculation.

inter still want samuel...they offered 3 million to loan him for a year

new rumor! luxemborgo has contacted brazilian/lyon defender cris about a move to madrid according to l'equipe

uruguyan lugano has been offered to madrid...barca, juve and inter are also interested..he has an italian passport

actually, loan Samuel to Inter wouldn't be a bad idea. we could call him back in January (like we did with Portillo) if we need him, and we wouldn't lose him.

the other news seem stupid: why, oh why, we would want more CBs if (supposedly) we want to get rid of one (Samuel) to get Ramos?

You guys still have Woodgate. Once he is injury-free, he will put in solid performances.

yeah, like in 3 more years :(

Does anybody know if the game against Real Madrid is still on?

Real Madrid wanted to play on August 25th, but

First qualifying round, 1st leg 12/13.07.2005
First qualifying round, 2nd leg 19/20.07.2005
Second qualifying round, 1st leg 26/27.07.2005
Second qualifying round, 2nd leg 02/03.08.2005
Third qualifying round, 1st leg 09/10.08.2005
Third qualifying round, 2nd leg 23/24.08.2005

it seems impossible :( :( unless Liverpool gets eliminated earlier (H)

who does Lugano play for, what position does he play and is he any gud?

he plays in Sao Paulo (they're in Copa Libertadores semifinals), he's from Uruguay (like Diogo and Pablo Garcia) and he's a CB. i haven't seen him playing (well, i guess i have, but i can't remember...)

http://www.as.com/portada/imgs/portadas/robinho1_160605.jpg

June 24, the 'R' Day (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d date=20050616&xref=20050616dasdasftb 13&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbA00) :rockman:

Robinho's agent will be in Madrid to close the deal :jap:

Cris??
He's one of the worst defenders i've ever seen

wow, i cant wait for the 24th!!!

i think i'm definitely getting a robinho jersey!

Anyone knows something about the supposed interest of Real Madrid in the River Plate defender Carlos Diogo?

I read in an argentine newspaper that real wants him... :rolleyes:

read the last few pages, a few articles about him have been posted.

another article about robinho resuming talks with madrid:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4171265.stm

it says he wont do anything until the confederations cup is finished

Robinho was great today versus Greece he even score a goal

i think if robinho comes to real, im buyin his jersey!!! :lui:

anyone thinks Robinho is (or will be) at the same level of Kaka, Ronaldinho or Adriano?

will be definately.


:rockman:

yea im gonna get a Robinho Shirt too :rockman: the more i watch him play the more i want him to arrive at Real.

i can't wait :lui:

guys don't get too excited with Robinho. The kid has talent, but so did Diego.

believe me, i was as excited as you when Porto signed Diego, but he was below expectations. He started off ok , then went througha bad spell, and starting finally playing well, the last month of the season. These yound brasilians need time to adapt first.

Now are u guys willing to wait?

P.S. oh yea i've finally reached 2000 posts (withhout ever using those little crappy posts that only have two words or a couple of smiles) Ya i'm proud lol

new article on diogo:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050617dasdaiftb_13&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050617

his transfer is imminent, he will be announced once river is eliminated from copa libertadores, fee is 6 million euros, says madrid is a dream for any player

garcia looks to be wrapped up soon too, as soon as his agent arrives in spain (the agent represents diogo as well)

anyone thinks Robinho is (or will be) at the same level of Kaka, Ronaldinho or Adriano?

NO...... he'll be better. More like the same level as the Ronaldo's (and hopefully) Pele's! :) But he's got a while to go yet.

Wow. alot of good news!

ROBINHO!! 24th, i cant wait! :rockman:
he was amazing against Greece yesterday.

Diogo signing imminent? i hope it's true. :) Raikko, how was he as midfielder in Libertadores?

maybe the signing of Diogo means, were not getting S. Ramos?

can Robinho play left wing?
would be nice :). damn, id never thought id see the day when Real's attack will have so little options on the bench. if we get Diogo and Pablo Garcia, i think thats enough in the defence area, ofcourse keeping Samuel and Woody. C. Ronaldo or Joaquin would be perfect for the attack. come on Perez, come to your senses! :)

i think Guti is going to leave. :nape:

Guti would leave Real for an English club

MADRID, June 17 (Reuters) - Real Madrid midfielder Guti says he would prefer a move to an English club if he leaves the Primera Liga side.

"I am keen to start a new chapter in my life. I have always said that if I leave Real I would love to play in England. The Premier League would be ideal," Guti told sports daily Marca on Friday.

The 28-year-old made 18 starts for Real last season but, after the arrival of coach Vanderlei Luxemburgo in December and Denmark midfielder Thomas Gravesen in the January transfer window, he spent more time on the bench.

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Since the end of the season Guti has made little secret of his unhappiness at being reduced to the role of substitute, behind the higher profile players at the club.

"The club know it is my wish to leave and they know we have to find a solution that is good for both parties, whether inside or outside the club," Guti added.

"All I want is to play more. If I have to stay I will do it without problems, but I think the time has come to move on to progress."

Guti, who has a contract with Real till 2008, is not alone in being unsettled at the club. Portuguese winger Luis Figo has also expressed his unhappiness at being relegated to the substitute's bench.

Real finished second in the table, four points behind fierce rivals Barcelona.

Guit should stay but it true that during the season he deserve to be in the starting line-up and he was put in the bench.

Guit should stay but it true that during the season he deserve to be in the starting line-up and he was put in the bench.

who would you have taken out of the attack or midfield then ?

guys don't get too excited with Robinho. The kid has talent, but so did Diego.

but come on, Robinho has definitely more talent that Diego. Diego is a good playmaker, but Robinho is more skillful than him. he's already playing in the NT, something that Diego never did (he only played in the U.20 and U.23).

new article on diogo:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050617dasdaiftb_13&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050617

his transfer is imminent, he will be announced once river is eliminated from copa libertadores, fee is 6 million euros, says madrid is a dream for any player

garcia looks to be wrapped up soon too, as soon as his agent arrives in spain (the agent represents diogo as well)

6m??? what a steal :rockman:

Diogo signing imminent? i hope it's true. :) Raikko, how was he as midfielder in Libertadores?

it's very hard to say, because it was a very weird match. overall, he was ok, he almost scored one goal, but like i said, the game was too weird to say anything about any player... Banfield was great in the second half, and River had a lot of luck.

can Robinho play left wing?
would be nice :). damn, id never thought id see the day when Real's attack will have so little options on the bench. if we get Diogo and Pablo Garcia, i think thats enough in the defence area, ofcourse keeping Samuel and Woody. C. Ronaldo or Joaquin would be perfect for the attack. come on Perez, come to your senses! :)

yes, but imo, he plays better as second striker than as LW.

Solari, Guti, Figo, Portillo and Owen could leave, so we would need another offensive player. we have been only linked with defensive players lately (Ramos, Diogo, Cris, Lugano, Gerrard, Garcia...)

i think Guti is going to leave. :nape:

yeah, i readed the interview in Marca :( :( :(
http://www.marca.es/indices/entrevista.html

who would you have taken out of the attack or midfield then ?

Raul is some point of the season was not playing great i would have put Guti over him.

rome wants guti:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644525,00.html

madrid want 18 million for solari and samuel:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644381,00.html

[QUOTE=Raikkonen]but come on, Robinho has definitely more talent that Diego. Diego is a good playmaker, but Robinho is more skillful than him. he's already playing in the NT, something that Diego never did (he only played in the U.20 and U.23). [/Qoute]

you should definately know your facts before you speak. Diego has more caps for Brazil than Robinho does. Diego has been called up for the Brazil squad already thsi season as well. He hasn't only been called up for the past couple of months.

One more thing, when they both played together at Santos, Diego was the star of the team ahead of Robinho.

inter confirm samuel interest

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285424&lid=2&cpid=21&title=Inter+target+Samuel&channel=Football_Home

no bid yet for del horno:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285227&lid=2&cpid=8&title=No+Del+Horno+bid&channel=Football_Home

rome wants guti:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644525,00.html


hmm.. if Guti want to leave so badly, AS Roma wouldn't be a bad idea.
im thinking a swap deal. Daniele De Rossi + $$ for Guti. :jambo:

not that badly

I'm really gonna enjoy seeing Robinho at Madrid. His play against Greece yesterday was fantastic.

On my #1 club however, I'm hoping that Facchetti bites on the 18 Million Euro deal for Solari and Samuel. Adding those two would cement Inter's already strong (surprsingly the best in the 2nd part of the Serie A season) defence. Solari would also be a wonderful addition. I'm sure he could make things happen on the left.

On Real, I wouldn't be too shocked to see Guti leave. He simply won't get more playing time, especially with Lux as coach. It's time he's sold for his sake I guess. Though to Roma? Nah. He should go to the EPL. But I wonder if a major club would move for him.

you should definately know your facts before you speak. Diego has more caps for Brazil than Robinho does. Diego has been called up for the Brazil squad already thsi season as well. He hasn't only been called up for the past couple of months.

One more thing, when they both played together at Santos, Diego was the star of the team ahead of Robinho.

Diego has like 10 caps(LINK: he had 6 caps after Copa America final last year (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/soccer/07/24/bc.sport.soccer.copa.brazil.penpix/)), meanwhile Robinho has already 4 (Hong Kong, Paraguay, Argentina, Greece), and he will get 7 if Brazil reach the CC final :jap:. Even Luis Fabiano has more caps than Diego. (6)

At the beginning, Diego was the star of Santos... because Robinho was only 17 (the 4 'stars' were Luis Fabiano, Diego, Elano and Robinho), but in the South American U.23 Tournament (Olympics qualifiers), Robinho was the star of the team by far, ahead of Diego. And believe me, i'm 100% sure of that, because that tournament was played in my country :ewan:

hmm.. if Guti want to leave so badly, AS Roma wouldn't be a bad idea.
im thinking a swap deal. Daniele De Rossi + $$ for Guti. :jambo:

mmm... that wouldn't be a bad deal(C)

I'm hoping that Facchetti bites on the 18 Million Euro deal for Solari and Samuel

that would be bad :(

I'm really gonna enjoy seeing Robinho at Madrid. His play against Greece yesterday was fantastic.

On my #1 club however, I'm hoping that Facchetti bites on the 18 Million Euro deal for Solari and Samuel. Adding those two would cement Inter's already strong (surprsingly the best in the 2nd part of the Serie A season) defence. Solari would also be a wonderful addition. I'm sure he could make things happen on the left.

On Real, I wouldn't be too shocked to see Guti leave. He simply won't get more playing time, especially with Lux as coach. It's time he's sold for his sake I guess. Though to Roma? Nah. He should go to the EPL. But I wonder if a major club would move for him.

i agree with selling guti, only for his sake..the guy's too good to rot on the bench, same with solari. If a player of that caliber wants to leave to get playing time, i can't knock him.

there's an article on skysports saying guti wants to go to england and mentions interest from arsenal, liverpool. Also, Juventus and Milan are rumored to be after him.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=285283&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Guti+gunning+for+England&channel=Football_Home

The more I think about it, I really dont see him staying in Madrid, there's just so many more opportunities elsewhere.

last year didnt Samuel say he didnt want to join another team in italy because he didnt want to play against Roma? :jambo:

Diego has like 10 caps(LINK: he had 6 caps after Copa America final last year (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/soccer/07/24/bc.sport.soccer.copa.brazil.penpix/)), meanwhile Robinho has already 4 (Hong Kong, Paraguay, Argentina, Greece), and he will get 7 if Brazil reach the CC final :jap:. Even Luis Fabiano has more caps than Diego. (6)

At the beginning, Diego was the star of Santos... because Robinho was only 17 (the 4 'stars' were Luis Fabiano, Diego, Elano and Robinho), but in the South American U.23 Tournament (Olympics qualifiers), Robinho was the star of the team by far, ahead of Diego. And believe me, i'm 100% sure of that, because that tournament was played in my country :ewan:



mmm... that wouldn't be a bad deal(C)



that would be bad :(


once again you need to know your facts. It doesn't matter how old Ribinho was because he and Diego are as old as each other.(19-20) Plus of course Fabiano has more caps. Leading Brasil in scoring 2-3 years in a row will allow you to have alot of caps for your country. Plus he's also older (24), meaning more time to acquire those caps for Brasil. And one more thing in which you were wrong in ----> LUIS FABIANO NEVER PLAYED FOR SANTOS

But don't get me wrong, Both Diego and Robinho are huge talents that will definately be starting or featuring for Brazil in the future. But Like Diego Robinho WILL DEFINATELY NEED AT LEAST 1 YEAR TO FULLY ADAPT. don't forget Diego had some trouble (even though i rate his season to be a positive one) playing in a much inferior portuguese league

oh my god, i'm sorry, i confused him with R. Oliveira (sorry to him too :p). i don't know what was i thinking... well, i do know, but i don't want to start another discussion :fool: :fool:

Diego had a 'little' problem in Portugal: fill Deco's shoes. Too many hopes on him, and he had a spot in the starting XI (almost) from the beginning in Porto, who had to defend the CL and the Portuguese titles.

Robinho will start in bench in Real Madrid (there's no way he could start from the beginning, no way... unless Zidane retires tomorrow :P), and he will have two brazilians friends in the team to help him (RC and Ronaldo) and a coach who knows him very, very well (extremely well). There are a lot of hopes on him, but he will have plenty of time to adapt to the spanish league ;), and he won't come to Real Madrid to replace anyone, so he won't have so much pressure like Diego had. We all know what he can and can't do, his weakness (too skinny) and his talent, so there won't be any surprises :jap:

anyways...

Benitez wants 45m + Arbeloa + De La Red + Javi Garcia for Gerrard (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 3&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

why, oh why?? :rolleyes: i don't want Gerrard.

Guti could move to Arsenal (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 1&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

mmm... maybe Guti + $$$ = Henry, or Guti for Reyes??

Real Madrid would sell Samuel for 14 or 15m euros (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 2&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

yeah, the 'bashing Samuel' news of the day (6)

Ronaldinho: "Robinho will be happy in Madrid" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 5&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

you could be happy too, Dinho. come to Real Madrid (H)

Diogo: "I wish I could sign for Real Madrid" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 4&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

oh my god, i'm sorry, i confused him with R. Oliveira (sorry to him too :p). i don't know what was i thinking... well, i do know, but i don't want to start another discussion :fool: :fool:

Diego had a 'little' problem in Portugal: fill Deco's shoes. Too many hopes on him, and he had a spot in the starting XI (almost) from the beginning in Porto, who had to defend the CL and the Portuguese titles.

Robinho will start in bench in Real Madrid (there's no way he could start from the beginning, no way... unless Zidane retires tomorrow :P), and he will have two brazilians friends in the team to help him (RC and Ronaldo) and a coach who knows him very, very well (extremely well). There are a lot of hopes on him, but he will have plenty of time to adapt to the spanish league ;), and he won't come to Real Madrid to replace anyone, so he won't have so much pressure like Diego had. We all know what he can and can't do, his weakness (too skinny) and his talent, so there won't be any surprises :jap:

anyways...

Benitez wants 45m + Arbeloa + De La Red + Javi Garcia for Gerrard (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 3&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

why, oh why?? :rolleyes: i don't want Gerrard.

Guti could move to Arsenal (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 1&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

mmm... maybe Guti + $$$ = Henry, or Guti for Reyes??

Real Madrid would sell Samuel for 14 or 15m euros (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 2&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

yeah, the 'bashing Samuel' news of the day (6)

Ronaldinho: "Robinho will be happy in Madrid" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 5&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)

you could be happy too, Dinho. come to Real Madrid (H)

Diogo: "I wish I could sign for Real Madrid" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050618dasdaiftb 4&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d date=20050618)


ya u have a point, Diego did have more pressure on him

no way should we give up all that for freaking gerrard

if Florentino by all means needs to get his "Galacticó" then Gerrard would be the best choice i think. just think about it. he's young, good in both defensive and offensive play. got a killer shot and him and Becks play very well together.

but that demand from Rafa Benitez is ridiculous. i wouldn't be surpsrised if Florentino accepted it.

but IF Gerrard comes, who will be benched? Gravesen?

as long as we dont get Henry im happy. :jambo:

Real increase offer for Robinho (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4106644.stm)

EEy guys i heard that inter have an agrement witch adriano that he will stay one year in inter that he will go to real!!!!! i hope so he is so good then we must sell raul en the attack will be: ronaldo, adriano and robinho, wow that will be so great

I just heard Robinho has officially moved to you guys? Well done on that signing, hes going to be a superstar. And for people talking about Luis Fabiano, hasn't he just signed for Sevilla :S

-----------------------Casillas--------------------
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Sergio Ramos----Woodgate------Samuel-----A. Cole
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---------------------Gravesen--------------------
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-----Joaquin-------------------------C. Ronaldo---
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----------------------Robinho--------------------
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----------Ronaldo-------------------Adriano-------


I hope we have a line up that looks something like this within the next 2 - 3 years, probably have 2 different centre-backs though. That team would kick some Barcelona ass though :rockman:

The Robinho deal is going more serious and i just hope they get him soon.

robinho wont be confirmed until at least next friday

i dont see him going elsewhere tho

on gerrard: he's a very good player and all, but that is waaaaay too much to pay for him...hell 45 million euros alone is too much, let alone 3 good prospects

robinho should be the galactico :jambo:

-----------------------Casillas--------------------
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Sergio Ramos----Woodgate------Samuel-----A. Cole
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---------------------Gravesen--------------------
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-----Joaquin-------------------------C. Ronaldo---
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----------------------Robinho--------------------
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----------Ronaldo-------------------Adriano-------


I hope we have a line up that looks something like this within the next 2 - 3 years, probably have 2 different centre-backs though. That team would kick some Barcelona ass though :rockman:


I think you have a fair shot at getting Cole. Really, I do.

:funny:

yea, you just keep that trophy warm for us. :ewan:

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1139ab5soldadop.jpg

I wonder if we will see Soldado in the first team next season. as 4th striker, if Portillo leaves for Zaragoza.

yea, you just keep that trophy warm for us. :ewan:

But, Betis won the Cup. Not us. :ewan:

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1139ab5soldadop.jpg

I wonder if we will see Soldado in the first team next season. as 4th striker, if Portillo leaves for Zaragoza.

Only if he gets decent playing time.

I don't want him to come up and waste his talent. Soldado is a Beast !


Also, what the hell is the deal with no news :nape: This is trash. :kader:

Promotion to Segunda / Playoffs

First Leg

Conquense 0 - 2 Real Madrid B (http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma23922.htm) (Soldado, Jurado) :lui: :rockman:

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1139ab5oncep.jpghttp://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1139ab5finalp.jpg
http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1139ab5alegriap.jpghttp://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/1139ab5conpublicop.jpg

next week: Real Madrid B vs Conquense, at the Bernabeu :jap:
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A lot of teams interested in Figo (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644919,00.html)

Galatasaray, Valencia, Villareal, Man Utd, Newcastle, Liverpool, Al Rayan, Urawa Reds....

Pavón praises Samuel (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644850,00.html)

"He has been great, and his work has been crucial to let us be one of the teams with less goals allowed (in La Liga)"

"The 'Zidanes & Pavones' signings policy isn't buried"

Figger (Robinho's agent): "The deal isn't closed yet, we have to negotiate with Santos" (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644832,00.html)

"He's a great player, and his prize has climbed up in the last months" :| this mean, more than 16m :( ?

Florentino and Figger had a meeting last friday (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,644831,00.html)

Figger will fly to Brazil with Real Madrid's 'final' offer for Robinho (C) . If Santos accepts it, Robinho will be presented after the Confederations Cup (late June/first days of July)

I want a Robinho jersey real bad already!

Quick question, is this Real Madrid B team made up of youth teamers? Or is it a whole other team (own first team, youth team, etc) but simply under the club's control as well?

its a youth team formed of younger real madrid players

they can never play against real madrid in any competition and they also cannot be promoted into la liga

man united interest in owen...as if they need more strikers :rolleyes:

http://footballmsn.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=286032&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Owen+in+United's+sights&channel=Football_Home

I have a question:

does in spanish league Reserve team can promote to Primera Division? Because this is shock for me, that Malaga B play in Segunda. When, for example, in 2005/06 Malaga relegate to Segunda, and Malaga B still play in Segunda Division, does these teams play beetwen they in 2006/07 season? In Poland reserve team can play only in 3rd league, not higher.

Quick question, is this Real Madrid B team made up of youth teamers? Or is it a whole other team (own first team, youth team, etc) but simply under the club's control as well?

it's like a 'Primavera' team ;).

I have a question:

does in spanish league Reserve team can promote to Primera Division? Because this is shock for me, that Malaga B play in Segunda. When, for example, in 2005/06 Malaga relegate to Segunda, and Malaga B still play in Segunda Division, does these teams play beetwen they in 2006/07 season? In Poland reserve team can play only in 3rd league, not higher.

sadly, no :(. For example, if Malaga is relegated to Segunda, Malaga B would be automatically relegated to Segunda B (unless they get the promotion to Primera in the same season. in that case, Malaga would be in Segunda and Malaga B in Primera).

But it would be a very rare case. The main goal for B teams in Segunda is to gain experience and not be relegated to Segunda B ;). Besides, they can't play in Copa del Rey.

hehe, does this rule is existing in FIFA 2005? :D I never check it... :)

hehe, does this rule is existing in FIFA 2005? :D I never check it... :)

no :p i played the Career Mode with Malaga B, won the promotion and then, kicked Malaga's ass in Primera (6) . i even faced them in Copa del Rey :fool: and kicked their ass again (C)

Too bad they can't have two Real Madrid team in the Primera.Imagine if it would be possible.

Real Madrid B 2-0 The "other" team (H)

Hell yeah!!! Real Madrid B in FIFA 2006 :rockman:

Imagine having two Real Madrids. It won't work out.

Having two Real Madrids would not be fair to the B team or the first team...I mean, for one, the first team won't be able to call up the young players to their squad for games(well at least they shouldn't)
If they're in the same team, moving from one team to the next (from RM A to RM B) would be less of a step up or step down as the case may be since the two teams are basically on the same level

I hope that our Madrid B can win next week. It'd be grat tohave a team in Primera and Segunda. It will develop players faster with the harder competiton.



as.com has

- More news about Robinho saying that Real Madrid is counting on Robinho for the USA, Asia tour

- Guti and Owen are in operation Henry :rolleyes:

- Perez had Pablo Garcia's transfer in mind in November

Having two Real Madrids would not be fair to the B team or the first team...I mean, for one, the first team won't be able to call up the young players to their squad for games(well at least they shouldn't)
If they're in the same team, moving from one team to the next (from RM A to RM B) would be less of a step up or step down as the case may be since the two teams are basically on the same levelNo, they're not on the same level. It doesn't hurt 'B' players being sent down...it happens everyday in MLB.

I think it's great: better skilled youth players, and the feeling that they're not far from being on the First team should encourage them to improve and hopefully we can have the next wave of: salgado's, casilla's, guti's ect.

I'll be praying that Madrid 'B' goes to Segunda Division. :rockman:

Carlos Diogo's Dad says Real deal is Close:

The father of River Plate winger Carlos Diogo admits his son is close to signing for Real Madrid.

The Uruguay international comes off contract at River next month and his agent, Paco Casal, is in talks with Real about a move to Madrid before the start of the new season.

Victor Hugo revealed to AS yesterday: "There's been nothing concrete yet, but, if it is true, it would be a very great step.

"Real are one of the best clubs in the world and it is always important to be mentioned with them in some way. Carlos is very comfortable at River, but also he is hoping for an opportunity to travel to such heights."

Hugo added: "I can promise Real Madrid fans that if Carlos joins, they will see a very passionate player. He has always been committed to the colours he has played for. He will give everything ... and then some more."


Lugano reveals get-out close for Real Madrid move

Sao Paulo defender Diego Lugano has revealed his contract carries a get-out clause which would smooth any summer switch to Real Madrid.

The Uruguay international is a target for Real and told Marca: "I have a contract until 2007 and right at the beginning of season they fixed it to be more helpful to me. I have a clause that allows me to go if I have a superior offer, in others words nothing can block me from going to a bigger club.

"Here they want me, but I know clearly that the great difference is made in Europe."

Lugano qualifies for an Italian passport courtesy of his father and added: "I don't know anything concrete, only what I've read in the papers.

"I'm very proud that such a great club is interested in me. My agent has told me to concentrate on my football and he will let me know about an offer once it is made.

"I know I have to join a bigger club in Europe to fulfill my potential."

i hope we get some signings wrapped up this week.


Mourinho joins Owen race

Chelsea are ready to scupper Manchester United's attempts to sign striker Michael Owen after failing to lure Samuel Eto'o to Stamford Bridge.

It had been reported that the England striker was set to join Sir Alex Ferguson's side after resigning himself to being shown the door at Real Madrid, just one year after he arrived at the Bernabeu from Liverpool.

However, Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho is thought to have turned to the 25-year-old, who has also been linked with former club Liverpool, after missing out on Barcelona striker Eto'o.

Reports suggested that Mourinho had seen a £30m offer for the Cameroon international rejected and will turn to Owen as he looks for a proven Premiership goalscorer, after seeing overseas signings Mateja Kezman and Didier Drogba struggle in the Premiership last season.

some news

Sergio Ramos says O.K. to Real Madrid

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645106,00.html

AS Roma wants 15M + Guti for Antonio Cassano

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645256,00.html

Cassano is nowhere near Guti + 15 M...
Guti is between 7-13 M himself alone (depending on when his deal runs out)

Cassano causes always problems on the pitch aswell as off the pitch. I wouldn't want him in my team.

What do you think about "Owen & Nistelrooy" going the other way (forget about the fees etc - just playing wise for the team ?

ughh please no cassano

good player, but such a whiner :nape:

edit: newcastle interested in figo..he has no shortage of suitors

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=286458&cpid=8&CLID=&lid=2&title=Magpies+in+Figo+talks&channel=Football_Home

do you real madrid fans know where figo is going?

Gala fans seem to think he's gona go to gala haha, even th ough they can't even afford to pay ribery and song, and didn't qualify for champs league, i heard rumours about inter, do you guys have any info?

do you real madrid fans know where figo is going?

Gala fans seem to think he's gona go to gala haha, even th ough they can't even afford to pay ribery and song, and didn't qualify for champs league, i heard rumours about inter, do you guys have any info?


who knows at this point, he has tons of teams after him:

bolton, man united, liverpool, inter, galatasaray, a team from qatar, a team from japan, valencia, newcastle

I really wonder where will Figo play next year.

Figo should go to Sporting and that's it.

Figo should go to Sporting and that's it.I've always wanted that for him. Nothing like ending your career back home. Good luck to him anywhere he goes though.

I really wonder where will Figo play next year.


i hope its at Real Madrid... :rockman:

Guti wants Arsenal move (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=286536&CPID=23&CLID=&lid=2&title=Guti+fancies+Arsenal+move&channel=Football_Home)

Any news on Ramos, Robinho, Gerrard and Co ?

http://www.marca.com/primeras/05/06/g0621.jpg



Roberto Carlos : "I will begin La Liga as a Spaniard" (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645680,00.html)
He won't take up a non-eu spot. That will be Robinho's now. Maybe this helps Samuel stay. :ewan:


Newcastle intrested in Luis Figo (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645694,00.html)
I'd like to see Figo at Newcastle. (Y)


Arsenal will fight Juventus for Guti (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645656,00.html)
I think we'll get around 15 million for Guti.


Sir Alex wants Michael Owen (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645258,00.html) :nape:


Sergio Ramos : "There are few who don't want to go to Madrid" (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645692,00.html)


Patxi Izko has no offers for Pablo Garcia. (http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,645555,00.html)


Lots of news today. Best is definately about Roberto Carlos. :jambo:

definitely great news about R. Carlos!! and i aslo hope that will help Samuel stay. :)

Please not Guti to Arsenal. I Hate the Gunners. i'd rather see him in Juve or Milan. but most of all i want him to stay in Madrid. :nape:

Woody is training by himself in order to be ready fo the world tour. (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050621&xref=20050621dasdaiftb_7&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb)
Great News :rockman:


Arsenal offers 11 million for Guti (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=&xref=20050621dasdaiftb_4&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbA00)


Redknapp : "If Owen leaves it will be to either Chelsea or Liverpool" (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=&xref=20050621dasdasftb_1&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbA00)



and lastly :rockman:,

Buffon's new girlfriend, Alena Seredova.

:hump: :hump: :hump:

http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20050621dasdaiftb_22&type=Ies

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050621&xref=20050621dasdaiftb_29&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

I need a cold shower. :$

galatasaray are stepping up to get figo:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=286587&lid=2&cpid=23&title=Gala+to+make+Figo+move&channel=football_home

good news about roberto carlos

Good to know good news like Woodgate is ready and Roberto Carlos will not be a non-eu players now :rockman:

I read that Real Madrid "B" players would get a HEFTY amount of money if they get the promotion to Segunda Division. How much is Florentino paying them?

Can anybody make me a Real Madrid scarf? like the one that Rob (chelsea fan) has on his Chealsea thread. we could replace our banner (which need some improvement) :(

...I guess I should post this in the Graphix thread but if any of you knows how to make them, please try. You can also look at [forzanazurri]'s scarf which is really nice.

:)

Hey, bros. I realize that Solari is a versatile footballer, but what is his strongest position? I would like to know how competent he is in the left-back spot aswell.

SALGADO EYES FUTURE SUCCESS

Real Madrid defender Michel Salgado admits the time has come for the club to start winning titles again.

Two seasons without a major trophy is almost unthinkable for Madrid, especially considering the money spent on their 'galacticos' in recent times.

However, the club is planning a summer dedicated to rebuilding the squad and the promising second half to last season means there are high hopes of silverware at the Bernabeu next campaign.

"It is going to be a hard season because there is going to be a high demand for titles," said Salgado.

"Real Madrid can't go two seasons winning nothing and I think there is going to be a big effort to balance the squad.

"We had got used to always winning and these two years have been hard for all of us. We have to be strong right from the start of pre-season because it is going to be very demanding.

"If we work hard from start to finish the titles will arrive," added the 29-year-old, who didn't want to look for excuses for the disappointments of last season.

"Those directly responsible are the players. When we win titles, it is the players who get all of the credit, well we also have to be responsible for the football that is played, although looking back maybe we didn't start out with a balanced squad.

"We played irregular football and when we started to perform, well it was too late to battle for the league title."

Looking ahead at what will be needed for next season, he said: "We need an air of renovation, not so much of players, more of our mentality.

"The team has to be focussed on the three competitions with a winning mentality that knows we are playing for Real Madrid."

source: sportinglife.com

Hey, bros. I realize that Solari is a versatile footballer, but what is his strongest position? I would like to know how competent he is in the left-back spot aswell.

his dribbling technique is very good, so i would say that his best position is as left midfielder. his defensive skills arent that good, so i dont think he would succeed as a left back. :)

Yeah, Solari's kinda of a LWM...problably because of his dribbling skills. Remember those games in Copa Del Rey...he was at his best.

he only played left back for madrida few times but that was in desperate situations. so i agree that his best position by far is left midfield

Cool. Stankovic stunk it up at that spot this past season. We're in desperate need of a great crosser/dribbler who'll expand the opposition.

Cool. Stankovic stunk it up at that spot this past season. We're in desperate need of a great crosser/dribbler who'll expand the opposition.
What about Kily? Oh yeah I forgot Solari's probably going to Inter. :rolleyes:

Kily brought the effort but he was very inadequate in his playmaking. Stanko lacked in both for a big majority of the time.

2 Reviews on Real Madrid 2004-2005 Season: from www.goal.com

VERY, VERY INTERESTING

How Was It For Gio? A Review Of Real Madrid’s Season
6/20/2005 6:52:00 AM
Well indeed it was hard being a fan of a club that so many wished would fall down. From all the power horses fans around Europe rarely do you find anyone sad for Real Madrid.
But I have to say the outcome for us was quite impressive based on our expectations and the circumstances that we started off the season with.

In my opinion we should have ended like Roma (the only club who suffered similar symptoms)

It was very blurry at the beginning Camacho coming & leaving as usual, the un-explainable purchase of Woodgate (and refusing Miltio for failure of medical tests!) setting our only defensive midfielder (cambiasso- who had an impressive first season at Inter) and buying no one to cover him. Then getting Michael Owen while we already had 3 worldwide strikers & another youngster was on loan to Fiorentina. I add to that another manager who lacked the experience to coach (Remon Garcia). So I look to that & I see how the team managed to be a contender till the end simply impressive.

Finally we have managed to get something good on the management level , I couldn’t tell if it was Perez conscious or god had mercy for Real fans, but in the middle of the season after a poor run and managing to get by the group stage in the CL along came Sacchi a well known Italian coach with experience & a CV so impressive that most the fans thought he would coach the team.

Sacchi was indeed the turning point in the season (and maybe in the following seasons too) the Bold Italian veteran followed his signing by Luxembourgo who also got another impressive CV as a coach in the Brazilian league matched only by big Phil Scolari (though the later is more impressive on international level) .

Luxa (as his friends love to call him) began his era with an impressive 7 minute match victory over the stubborn Real Socidad followed by a 7 games winning Streak. Made a good game against Juventus (who recently became Real Madrid European Jinx) but still the team fell short as repercussion after/during Juve games in la liga decreased their chances of ever catching Barca .

When all voices were starting to doubt Lux ability along came Barca game which restored the Merengues pride a very impressive performance & a new introduction to the 4-3-3 followed by an unbeaten run till the end of season.

For some this was still disappointing for Madristas it is a good start when you look at the situation Real faced with Barca in an impressive form they only ended 4 points behind & 15 points over the next team.

No doubt that Barca deserved to win for there performance all over the season, but the undermining for Real Madrid is not fair too. Get any team to face the same thing & they will hardly by in the bottom table (as Roma did).

Lux proved beyond doubt that he is not a coach to be bullied around by players his stance with Ronaldo & Figo was quite essential to take the pampering out of players always had from the president. Gravesen was a very good call at last (since 3 years) we buy someone the team needs not someone who sale more shirts.

The improvement & lux touch in the team was witnessed by many, Becks started to move more & get involved in the game, Ronaldo went back to scoring after losing tons of weight , Raul reached an impressive form by the end of season , Pavon who was Madrista worst nightmare suddenly became solid like a Rock. Not to mention the Great Casillas

I do think it is a fair season for Real & very impressive for the fans , there is a difference felt in the team & there is a change even now finally we are optimistic(the fans) about the names mentioned as prospect movers to Real Madrid we just hope Perez would continue leaving everything for Sacchi & Lux then watch Real Madrid next season

Gio


....and the 2nd one:

How Was It For Saif? A Review Of Real Madrid’s Season
6/20/2005 7:06:00 AM
• What kept you going throughout the season? Great (or at least encouraging) results? Hope that things could only get better? Or simply blind loyalty? Loyalty to the team that I have always supported is what made me stand by my team in this poor season. The team that I found the true football in, the team which gives spectacle and trophies. But the wake-up of the team in the recent weeks is really encouraging.
• What were the best moments of the campaign – for example, the best performance / result?
Beating Barcelona (4-2) was really incredible, especially when everyone wrote Real Madrid off the Spanish League title, in addition to the fine form of the team since the appointment of Vanderlei Luxemburgo

• And what were the worst?
The other side of ‘El Classico’, the (3-0) defeat in the ‘Camp Nou’, in addition to the Garcia Remon’s era in which the team looked lifeless and desire less.

• Who was your team’s best player of the season?
Iker Casillas with no doubt. His great reflexes and saves kept Real Madrid’s hopes alive, one of the best seasons for the Real Madrid-made goalkeeper.

• And the worst?
Our Galacticos! They haven’t reached their potential, never played at the highest level, we can not blame the ‘Pavones’ if the ‘Zidanes’ did not deliver.

• How did you rate the performance of your manager/coach?
Unlike any other team, Real Madrid got three coaches in charge throughout this season! Vanderlei Luxemburgo might be given (8.5/10), He restored the team’s spirit, he changed a lot of tactical things, and the team looked more organized in his era. Good job in his first season in European soccer.

• And the squad?
Iker Casillas [8]
Salgado 7
Walter Samuel 6.5
Ivan Helguera 6
Roberto Carlos 7
Thomas Gravesen 7.5
David Beckham 6
Zinedine Zidane 6
Luis Figo 6
Michael Owen 7
Raul 6
Ronaldo 7.5

• What was your side’s goal of the season?
As an individual effort, I liked Zidane’s goals against Sevilla (2nd leg) and against Espanyol in Santiago Bernabue.
In the collective side Ronaldo’s first goal against Real Sociedad in ‘Anoeta’ was magical, You can find everything in football in it !

• And what was the biggest howler during the campaign
Figo being benched against Barcelona, in his last ‘Classico’ probably. It was hard to see him not starting in “Figo’s match”. And having Woodgate debut-less.





• Who were the best opponents your team came up against?
Barcelona in the first Classico of the league, and Sevilla in the 2nd leg of the league.


• And the worst?
Albacete I think. They surrendered easily though they got a great names like Momo & Mark Gonzalez. And another games.


• How did the media generally treat your club?
Real Madrid is always under the media pressure, the media treated us fairly, praised the team when they deserved, and criticized it when the criticism is needed.

• What was the biggest slice of luck that went your way during the season?
I can not remember any match won by Real Madrid’s luck! But the defeat and the 1st game against Sevilla which caused Garcia Remon’s sacking, We were lucky to lose it!

• And what was the most outrageous in justice?
The 3 shots in the wood-work against Juventus, two in the first leg by Raul & Samuel, another one in the 2nd leg by Ronaldo.

• Looking ahead to next season, who would you most like to see arrive at your club?
Joaquin Sanchez, the best right winger in the world and Figo’s heir. In addition to the great Michael Ballack and the talented Sergio Ramos. May I dream about Xabi Alonso?

• And which person(s) would you most like to see leave it?
I would like to see David Beckham back in the English premier league, he never coped with Spanish life and Spanish La Liga.

• Overall, how did the campaign measure up to your pre-season expectations, and how did it compare with other seasons in which you’ve been following them?
Disappointing. Hugely disappointing. We expected a title at least, but we ended with nothing. A season to forget for every Madridista.

• What are you expecting from next season?
A title, It doesn’t matter what title. I dream about a ‘doblete’ Spanish League and UEFA Champions league. What I want is to celebrate winning a title next season. ‘Copa del rey’ is not bad at all.


Saif Dalabieh, Jordan

My(ronnifan9) ratings:

Casillas- (9) LEGEND at 24!
Salgado- (7.5) ...give 'em the Captain band, jk :(
Samuel- (7) ...he'll improve, no doubt.
Helguera- (6.5) ...go back to DM.
R.Carlos- (7) ...you're losing it bro.
Gravesen- [8] ...a little bit of Gravesen, is just what we needed. :D
Beckham- (6.5) ...yes, you look good. Why you still here? *thinks* $ :ewan:
Zidane- (6.5) ...the same with Samuel.
Figo- (6.5) ...horrible second half.
Owen- (7.5) ...make him a starter, or sell him back to the EPL. anyone!
Raul- (6.5) ...you're our GOLDEN KID, and our captain! C'on
Ronaldo- [8] ...just keep those Kilos off, gordito consentido :lui:



What do you guys think?

I thought those were two really good summaries, what's with the devil's faces on some of the player's ratings?

I thought those were two really good summaries, what's with the devil's faces on some of the player's ratings?

they're supposed to be a rating of *6* but since i put these (), it made it a devil, but I fixed it.

2 Reviews on Real Madrid 2004-2005 Season: from www.goal.com


My(ronnifan9) ratings:

Casillas- (9) LEGEND at 24!
Salgado- (7.5) ...give 'em the Captain band, jk :(
Samuel- (7) ...he'll improve, no doubt.
Helguera- (6.5) ...go back to DM.
R.Carlos- (7) ...you're losing it bro.
Gravesen- [8] ...a little bit of Gravesen, is just what we needed. :D
Beckham- (6.5) ...yes, you look good. Why you still here? *thinks* $ :ewan:
Zidane- (6.5) ...the same with Samuel.
Figo- (6.5) ...horrible second half.
Owen- (7.5) ...make him a starter, or sell him back to the EPL. anyone!
Raul- (6.5) ...you're our GOLDEN KID, and our captain! C'on
Ronaldo- [8] ...just keep those Kilos off, gordito consentido :lui:



What do you guys think?

i agree with your ratings, for the most part, although casillas should really be 9.5, if not 10, he really saved our ass many times

Samuel- (7) ...he'll improve, no doubt.

Zidane- (6.5) ...the same with Samuel.




so you're saying Zidane will improve ? heh. Theres only one way he'll go now... and thats down.

He peaked couple of seasons ago.. hes on a steady decline which is inevitable.

so you're saying Zidane will improve ? heh. Theres only one way he'll go now... and thats down.

He peaked couple of seasons ago.. hes on a steady decline which is inevitable.He was hurt, tired...I expect him to be rested and to have a much better year. THAT'S what I mean by "improving"...yes, he peaked about 2 years ago.

Real Madrid have released a complimation of Beckham now.

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma23608.htm

Haha, a compilation as if he's a legend already. Florentino, Florentino :rolleyes:

He was hurt, tired...I expect him to be rested and to have a much better year. THAT'S what I mean by "improving"...yes, he peaked about 2 years ago.

plus he is retired from international duty, last season he had no rest because he played in euro 2004

he should be fresher this season

is anyone else worried that we haven't signed anyone yet? i must admit it doesn't sound good seeing that other big teams have bought players (eg. Chelsea have signed Asier Del Horno) and the only other news is about us selling Figo and Guti and Owen??

maybe its just me. Whats the news on Sergio Ramos, Robinho, Diogo, Lugano and who-ever else we are hunting for?

Ps. those season reviews were good! but we already knew that and everything that was said has already been outlined in the either this or the previous thread. They were missing 1 thing. a team rating. which should have been: 6.5

is anyone else worried that we haven't signed anyone yet? i must admit it doesn't sound good seeing that other big teams have bought players (eg. Chelsea have signed Asier Del Horno) and the only other news is about us selling Figo and Guti and Owen??

maybe its just me. Whats the news on Sergio Ramos, Robinho, Diogo, Lugano and who-ever else we are hunting for?

Ps. those season reviews were good! but we already knew that and everything that was said has already been outlined in the either this or the previous thread. They were missing 1 thing. a team rating. which should have been: 6.5haha yeah, the team was like a 6.5...what hurts more is Barca winning, we couldn't get through the damn zebras...and Copa Del Rey was just sad.

I'm very surprised we haven't signed anybody too!!! Maybe next week...maybe the week after that, but I'm gettin impatiend. Robinho will probably be first...Diogo second...Ramos third, and we surprisingly buy a CM...our only "galactico" signing. Ballack most probably, takes over Gravesen's spot. :( ...hopefully Luxa and Sacchi convince Florentino NOT to sign any "mid-age" galactios.

According to A.S. which surprisngly makes sence with some of the line-ups that Luxa is proposing for next year:

--------------------Iker Casillas---------------------
---------Sergio Ramos------Jonathan Woodgate------
--Michel Salgado--------------------Roberto Carlos---
--------------------Pablo Garcia---------------------
----David Beckham-----------------Carlos Diogo------
-------------------Zinedin Zidane--------------------
--------Ronaldo--------------------Robinho----------

- I don't thik Ramos will take Samuel's job, unless we sell him...
- Gravesen will probably be in Garcia's spot...stupid AS
- Diogo as LM? can he play left footed???
- It hurt not to see Raul there but he can be our Owen
- Like I though Owen won't be with us...
- The "star signing" of the summer, Robinho starts...I guess he could. :rolleyes:

Every week I come up with a different one, here's this weeks:

--------Casillas----------
----Samuel-Woodgate----
Salgado----------R.Carlos
--------Gravesen--------
-Beckham-------Diogo???-
---------Zidane----------
--Ronaldo-----Robinho---

Nice :)

I've seen Samuel play again yesterday for Argentina - he played the same as for Real Madrid - not really good.
He not only did mistakes and fouls that caused a goal, he got booked again - meaning he is suspended for the next game and looked slow and got overrun times and times again.

I hope Woodgate gets fit and good, aswell as getting Ramos then we could sell Samuel because honestly he's not worth his money here.

My Lineup (altough I don't know much about Robinho and if he can play Left Wing) - otherwise swap him with Zidane or Raul.

--------Casillas----------
----Ramos-Woodgate----
Salgado----------R.Carlos
--------Gravesen--------
-Beckham-------Robinho---
---------Zidane----------
--Ronaldo-----Owen---

You want to see sh*t, here it is -

http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20050622dasdaiftb_2&type=Ies

You want to see sh*t, here it is -

http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=20050622dasdaiftb_2&type=Ies

They removed the 2 best players of our defense: Helguera and Gravesen.

And Woodgate :rolleyes: Really i dont see the moment he will play for us... and if he will play for us will be injured very soon, i have that feeling :(

Man, why does AS continue with lineups like that, when whats working for Madrid is getting back to basics? Silly arsed rags

Looking at those lineups, and seeing Diogo on your left, does anyone know what has happened with the Joaquin/Reyes to Real Madrid situations??? I know Reyes is close to a new contract, but its not a done deal yet, and I still think he could be a brilliant option with his versatility in Madrid. Oh, and does Joaquin ever play on the left?

In any event, it seems as if all those hot names from the year, like those two, and Mascherano have suddenly disappeared. I know you all have Robinho wrapped up, but does anyone else want any of these players as well?

Where's Raul, Gravesen, Helguera, and Samuel !!!


I really do not understand as !?!

Diogo would not be a damn starter :kader:

hahaha

gotta love these newspapers

i am getting so impatient waiting for a signing, hopefully robinho will be signed on friday, as promised :ewan:

yeah, cause Robinho is what really lacks at Real Madrid... :|

what a waste of such a talent...

Real Madrid have released a complimation of Beckham now.

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma23608.htm

im waitin for a zidanes compilation :fool:

what a waste of such a talent...


Shut the **** up you idiotic piece of ****.

How is it a waste of talent ?

Are you ******* retarded ?

No way Robinho will be a starter
I'd put Ronaldo and Raul up front

i have alot of faith in Robinho being a starter for Madrid. today Brazil tied 2-2 against Japan. Robinho scored the first goal and assisted Ronaldinho on the other one.

i dont want Raúl out of the starting line-up tho.

How likely do you guys think that both Samuel and Solari will leave for Inter? If they do leave who will replace them?

i think that it's about 90 % chance that both leave for Inter. sadly. and the replacements will be Sergio Ramos (Sevilla) and Carlos Diogo (River Plate) according to spanish papers that is. :chew:

Very good I guess. They leave from my 2nd favorite club to my favorite. I couldn't be happier. :rockman:

Inter were also linked with Ramos, but if Samuel is coming I guess that interest will be dropped (if it already hadn't been)

i read today that Samuel has given the green light on a move to Inter. so you should be happy! :) and we should be very sad. :(

Kick ass. I guess Zanetti has been talking to him nonstop during the Confederations Cup. I think I'm gonna cry. :D

dammit, i hope there is a good backup plan if samuel leaves, i dont want to rely on woody, he's too injury prone

we must get at least sergio ramos, if not another defender

if we get S. Ramos and Diogo, were set. don't forget that we have Helguera :)

Is there any plan to actually sell Woodgate? He's not gonna get over his injury probs so why not sell him. Well, on second thought I guess he must be kept since selling him now would only be a loss of funds and effort.

Juanfran scored twice today when Spain's U-20 won 3-0 over Turkey

:)

damn datboy you got the robinho sig before me !!!!!!!!!!!

Robinho next jersey must be a Real Madrid one this guy must come to Madrid :rockman:

damn datboy you got the robinho sig before me !!!!!!!!!!!

yup, and i got the Robinho avatar too! :lui:

Is there any plan to actually sell Woodgate? He's not gonna get over his injury probs so why not sell him. Well, on second thought I guess he must be kept since selling him now would only be a loss of funds and effort.

his price is at its lowest point right now, it'd just be bad business to cut their losses at this point

no point in selling at a low price

who would buy him now?? (woodgate) he hasn't played in a year or longer and is still considered injured. we can't sell him if we tried.

i was under the impression that diogo was a defender. why has AS put him as LM? i dont think raul, robinho or zidane are in their right positions out at left wing. Here's my lineup:
---------------iker------------------
Salgado---Ramos---Samuel---R.Carlos (woody[if fit]/ivan/ravon)
-------------Gravesen--------------- (P.G)
Becks----------------------FIGO!!!---
-------Zidane/owen/robinho----------
---Raul-------------------Ronaldo----

i put Zidane/owen/robinho there to deal with owen being sold or robinho starting. and yes LUIS FIGO IS THE ONLY LEFT WINGER WE HAVE. I HOPE THEY DONT SELL HIM!!! (unless we get C.RONALDO) No, Joaquin is a RWM.

Guys I don't know if it has been posted but apparently the €25 million bid for Essien wasn't actually from Chelsea. Now that leads me to believe that Real Madrid may be this other club. Any news on this?

Today is Zizou's 33rd birthday

:jacko: :corn: :sun:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050623dasdaiftb_10&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050623

I think this is his final season, at Real Madrid atleast ;)


Also, I don't believe that Essien rumor

the mysterious essien bidders is surely a trick from Lyon to make all interested clubs afraid of not getting him and a desperate try to get as much money as possible for him.

what tales do AS & Marca report today ?

Guys I don't know if it has been posted but apparently the €25 million bid for Essien wasn't actually from Chelsea. Now that leads me to believe that Real Madrid may be this other club. Any news on this?


as had an article that said madrid's offer was rejected, i'll try to find the link

robinho is a 'matter of hours' away from madrid :rockman: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkk yea!

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050623&xref=20050623dasdasftb_3&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

raul offered to leave if he is not wanted, florentino told him he is untouchable

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050623dasdaiftb_30&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050623

if real madrid b make it to segunda, they will be allowed 3 foreign players to shore up the squad...they are looking to add rodallega, a columbian player, top scorer in the u20 competition

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050623dasdaiftb_39&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050623

lyon says madrid was the team bidding for essien

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,646347,00.html

ha, marca and as agree on a topic, marca says robinho is hours away!

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,646427,00.html

getafe want ruben

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,646365,00.html

i hope robinho is sealed today

Great news about Robinho !! :lui:


I think it will be officially completed midweek, next week

Samuel will not be sold.

Source=Common sense.

Don't believe everything you read folks. I think Samuel will be with us for many more years. I seriously doubt our President would throw away a $25 Euro signing.

How many times have you seen Florentino do things outside of common sense ?

:ewan:

I don't think he will be sold either, but if he is I wouldn't be shocked.

The Robinho news is great soon he be doing his stuff in Madrid

You guys have one good prospect with Juanfran, what a player he is. I've seen him play during the WC U20. What a player!!! If Figo goes you don't need to look no further

You guys have one good prospect with Juanfran, what a player he is. I've seen him play during the WC U20. What a player!!! If Figo goes you don't need to look no further

He looks like the best young player we have, but when he played official matches with Real Madrid he sucked hard :\

Samuel will not be sold.

Source=Common sense.

Don't believe everything you read folks. I think Samuel will be with us for many more years. I seriously doubt our President would throw away a $25 Euro signing.


wouldnt it be common sense that a team wouldnt replace makelele with david beckham?

dont doubt anything perez does

also, as for juanfran, i've heard good things about him, but like crusad3r said, he does badly playing for the first team

I dont know why Real Madrid keep selling DM as their defence become a big problem

Another DM is required

Common sense = Inter/Juve/Milan pay us a lot of money to buy Samuel = We sell Samuel = big bussines for us, since we sell a unsuccesful player here for a lot of money.

I hate you Samuel Lovers !! :boohoo: :boohoo: :rockman:

Crusader, you do realise all the prices that have been mentioned are about 10 million Euros or more less, than what we paid for him?

Common sense = Inter/Juve/Milan pay us a lot of money to buy Samuel = We sell Samuel = big bussines for us, since we sell a unsuccesful player here for a lot of money.

I hate you Samuel Lovers !! :boohoo: :boohoo: :rockman:


Oh knock it off. Our defence was excellent this season. Why change a good thing? It's our attack that failed us for part of the season. Besides, Samuel improved alot towards the end of the season. Don't be so quick to throw him out.

I'm also surprised that you guys want to sell Samuel, but I guess it just goes to show how much you want Robinho. Doesn't Samuel have to leave before Robinho is signed? So I guess it doesn't matter what these newspapers say. When Samuel signs the papers with Inter then Robinho will join, and I'm thinking not a second b4 (unless some other non-EU player is leaving...)

I'm also surprised that you guys want to sell Samuel, but I guess it just goes to show how much you want Robinho. Doesn't Samuel have to leave before Robinho is signed? So I guess it doesn't matter what these newspapers say. When Samuel signs the papers with Inter then Robinho will join, and I'm thinking not a second b4 (unless some other non-EU player is leaving...)
I wouldn't necessarily say we had to sell Samule first (if we even sell him)...in order to buy Robinho. I'm pretty sure Florentino has enough money for Robinho without selling Sammy. :D!

The big question:

Will Real Madrid sell Walter Samuel this summer? ...and to who? Inter? Juve?

(C)

...and on a HAPPIER NOTE:

Confirmados los partidos en Chicago y en Los Ángeles
(L.A. and Chicago confirmed to have Madrid's games for the U.S. tour)

...the rivals will be Chivas USA, and L.A. Galaxy :boohoo:

I'm most likely going to the L.A. game :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

When are these games??!?!?!?!?
I NEED TO GO TO CHICAGO!
I'd do ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We better rape those two teams. Hopefully Robinho will feature in the team. Also Woodgate.

When are these games??!?!?!?!?
I NEED TO GO TO CHICAGO!
I'd do ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, my bad...here 'ya go:

16th of July vs. Chivas USA @ Chicago
18th of July vs. L.A. Galaxy @ Los Angeles

I wouldn't necessarily say we had to sell Samule first (if we even sell him)...in order to buy Robinho. I'm pretty sure Florentino has enough money for Robinho without selling Sammy. :D!



I think he means as in the whole non-EU players limit.

i don't know why i have the feeling that next season we will fail again. all the rumors indicate that we will have a weaker team:

Guti > P. Garcia
Solari > Diogo
Helguera > S. Ramos
Samuel > Woodgate
César > Diego Lopez

i don't give a **** if the new players are younger or older than the ones we have: the important thing is that they're worst than the one we're willing to sell... and the only 'big' signing (Robinho) can play in two positions we have very well covered. Even the rumors about another 'galactico' are for players we don't need, at all (Gerrard and Henry).

only 2 weeks for the beginning of the preseason and we have the incredibly amount of ZERO signings (and 1000000000 rumors).

based on the probables 'in' & 'out', my prediction is: 3th place in La Liga (with luck... Valencia and Barça look very strong), out of CL in second round and no titles in the whole season. :nape:

just a reminder: in 2003 summer, we sold a lot of players, some benchers and some starters, and we bought only one 'galactico'. if someone can't remember how that season ended, it's a lucky guy.

Common sense = Inter/Juve/Milan pay us a lot of money to buy Samuel = We sell Samuel = big bussines for us, since we sell a unsuccesful player here for a lot of money

Common sense: Liverpool would pay a lot of money for Raul = we sell Raul = big bussiness for us, since we sell a player who was crap the last 2 seasons :rolleyes: does that sound wise??

Helguera + Samuel -> one of the best defensive duos of La Liga... and Florentino is willing to sell them both* :kader:

Woodgate + Ramos -> injury-prone + young 'prospect' = another season without titles :jambo:

i prefer to keep Guti, Solari, Owen, Samuel and Helguera rather than buy Robinho, Pablo Garcia, Diogo and Ramos. we need young blood, but not a weaker team.

*Helguera wants to renew his contract now, but the club said 'wait until November'. why? because in November they will know if Ramos and/or Woodgate are as good as Helguera, and if any of them can replace him, the club would sell Ivan in January. mark my words :jambo:

btw, Santos has just reject our 15m offer for Robinho. They said "pay his clause": 50m dls. :eek: .

more info

http://www.marca.es/edicion/noticia/0,2458,646698,00.html

US15m = 12.5m euros

Guti > P. Garcia
Solari > Diogo
Helguera > S. Ramos
Samuel > Woodgate
César > Diego Lopez

Guti < P. Garcia ...as a DM of course, but Garcia is only a back-up for Gravesen.
Solari > Diogo ...you gotta 'member Carlos is 21 Y.O., much better defender.
Helguera > S.Ramos ...yes, but when people are saying his the next "Puyol" this is interesting how he'll end up in about 3 years. Star player (ramos) :jambo:
Samuel > Woodgate ...why not have both? as a precaution.
Cesar > D.Lopez ...well yeah, but don't we have some guy....Casillas, me thinks? (H)

It will just be nice to see how the team will end up looking like. A couple young defenders, maybe a Galactico ...or 2. Untill then, lets just wait. :rolleyes:

I'm also surprised that you guys want to sell Samuel, but I guess it just goes to show how much you want Robinho. Doesn't Samuel have to leave before Robinho is signed? So I guess it doesn't matter what these newspapers say. When Samuel signs the papers with Inter then Robinho will join, and I'm thinking not a second b4 (unless some other non-EU player is leaving...)


roberto carlos will get a spanish passport before next season

madrid, come to the east coast, dammit! :ewan:

Guti < P. Garcia ...as a DM of course, but Garcia is only a back-up for Gravesen.

Overall: Guti >>>>>>>>>> Garcia
as DM: Gravesen >>> Garcia (H)

besides, Guti can play as DM, LW, LM, OM, ST...

Solari > Diogo ...you gotta 'member Carlos is 21 Y.O., much better defender.

Solari isn't a defender, so obviously, Diogo is better. But in attack, there's no discussion.

Helguera > S.Ramos ...yes, but when people are saying his the next "Puyol" this is interesting how he'll end up in about 3 years. Star player (ramos) :jambo:

we can't wait 3 years. we need a good CB now. oh wait! we have 2, and Floren wants to sell both!
:rolleyes:

Samuel > Woodgate ...why not have both? as a precaution.

tell that to Florentino Perez.


Cesar > D.Lopez ...well yeah, but don't we have some guy....Casillas, me thinks? (H)

and if (oh, god, please no...) Casillas gets injured? :(



yeah, i know i'm a little depressed about next season, but we can't make (more) stupid decisions. we need a stronger team, and right now, even with all the rumors, we'll have a weaker one :(

What happens with the rumour of bid Mourad Meghni? Madrid can even get it cheaper now that Bologna goes to 2nd division

Real Madrid should be shoring up their defence. But its been said though.

IMO I don't like Samuel - but aslong as we don't have any other prospects or already great defenders sigend - he must stay.

a DM cover for Gravesen would be nice aswell as would be decent covers for both Full Back Positions.

sacchi admits he knows about milan's interest in ronaldo

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050624&xref=20050624dasdasftb_4&type=Tes&anchor=dasftbA00

stuttgart (??) wants figo

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050624&xref=20050624dasdasftb_1&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

florentino negotiated with osasuna and pablo garcia's agent yesterday, move is close

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050624dasdaiftb_6&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050624

luxe has already created a diet for robinho, he is confident he will be a madrid player

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050624dasdaiftb_2&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050624

roberto carlos was robbed at gunpoint while giving an interview about robinho over the phone :|

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,647052,00.html

pablo garcia's transfer is done, he'll be presented officially next week (6 million euros)

http://www.marca.com/edicion/noticia/0,2458,646857,00.html

I dont trust in AS....
Stuttgart after Figo and pablo garcia's transfer is done sound like BS for me
BTW is a relief to know R Carlos isnt harm, what a bad luck for him

I hear he was robbed while he was taking an interview, i would like to hear it (if they dont stole the recorder)

I dont trust in AS....
Stuttgart after Figo and pablo garcia's transfer is done sound like BS for me
BTW is a relief to know R Carlos isnt harm, what a bad luck for him

I hear he was robbed while he was taking an interview, i would like to hear it (if they dont stole the recorder)


AS has a lot of rumors, but they often have a lot of stories before anyone else, i think they broke the owen deal and gravesen

both marca and AS say garcia is very close to being completed, so that one seems close to happening

AS is driving me crazy...

With River Plate down 2-0, it's gonna be difficult for them to come back. My point? Diogo will be a "merengue" at the end of next week. :jambo:

Love this guy. :rockman:

What is the big deal with Robinho? I dont think he is that great player...

Its official the info about Diogo leaving River at the end of the cup..?


PS: We will beat Sao Paulo, and go to de finals...

What is the big deal with Robinho? I dont think he is that great player...


I see you did not have seen what this guy can do he still young but imagine what he can learn if he come to Real Madrid. :rockman:

I see you did not have seen what this guy can do he still young but imagine what he can learn if he come to Real Madrid. :rockman:

yeah but he ll have to handle a HUGE pressure...

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Rival offers for Real Madrid's Helguera:

The uncle and agent of Real Madrid defender Ivan Helguera has revealed several offers from European clubs have arrived for the Spanish international.

Juanjo Helguera admits Ivan is disappointed by Real's insistence that no new contract talks be held until November. The defender's current deal expires next summer.

"We spoke with Real Madrid and we decided to postpone his contract negotiations," Helguera Sr told Radio Marca. "To me it seemed correct and for Iván it is not bad either.

"If the offer is good and we reach an agreement we will continue and if not, the world will not end."

He added: "They are following Ivan in Europe and several clubs want to sign him."


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Osasuna demand Real Madrid up Pablo Garcia offer:

Real Madrid insist on paying Osasuna £3.5 million for midfielder Pablo Garcia.

The Uruguay international's agent, Paco Casal, met with Real and Osasuna officials yesterday to discuss his client's proposed move to Madrid.

Osasuna president Patxi Izco is unhappy with the fee on the table and rates Garcia at £6 million.

"Our first intention is to not sell Pablo Garcia, because he has become the flag of our team and one of the most valuable players," said Izco.

"Nevertheless, we are being forced to negotiate by the situation that has been created. Madrid is a too sweet a caramel for any player, and this includes Pablo Garcia.

"For Osasuna, if he leaves, it will be like losing a son."


I hope Helguera stays, i'd be gutted to see him go and hopefully we can get Pablo Garcia, Robinho and Diogo wrapped up before next Friday. Probably not though :nape:

i been out camping with some buddies thursday and friday. i was hoping some deals would be closed now when im home again. especially "R". :nape:

oh well, MARCA says that Pablo Garcia is sealed and will be presented next week. and Robinho should be sealed any day now. isnt there any news about his agent being in Madrid?

I think it is funny how as.com said Robinho would be completed the 24th or something like a week or so ago. :rolleyes:

nothing will be completed until Confederations Cup is over. that's what i think

yeah but he ll have to handle a HUGE pressure...

Exactly. Besides he must be apreciated by the Coach. Becouse i remember what big european clubs do to young southamerican players. I remember saviola, riquelme.

And he must be prepared to the european defenders...europe is hard...

The hardest tournament in America is the Libertadores, and he didnt did well in the Libertadores...

In europe they want big centerfowards.

i'm sure they'll be an adjustment period for him, even zidane and ronaldo needed time to adapt to playing for real madrid

i think he'll be fine though, he's definitely got the talent

if helguera is sold, i will be seriously pissed :kader:

edit: some new rumors

luxe has requested ricardhino, 29 year old midfielder for santos, he has an italian passport, article mentions that robinho, diogo and garcia are still the top priorities

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?d_date=20050625&xref=20050625dasdaiftb_5&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb

an interview from late march with ricardhino, says real madrid is the best team in the world and luxe was the best coach he ever had

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050625dasdaiftb_3&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050625

robinho wants to win the confederations cup, then he will speak on madrid

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20050625dasdaiftb_8&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20050625

helguera is my favourite player in our defence and he improved alot this season he better not be sold

The Samuel-Solari deal has reported been said to be finalized Monday or Tuesday, but I'm thinking more like late in the week after the Confederations Cup is done. Then the Robinho deal will happen.

Or in a worse case scenario both deals will be dragged out all summer. I'll f*cking shoot someone if that happens... no joke. :jambo:

The Samuel-Solari deal has reported been said to be finalized Monday or Tuesday, but I'm thinking more like late in the week after the Confederations Cup is done. Then the Robinho deal will happen.

Or in a worse case scenario both deals will be dragged out all summer. I'll f*cking shoot someone if that happens... no joke. :jambo:

I think those deals will be made.

How can you loan/sell Samuel? Unbelievable.

The only reason I can see is that you'll get some kind of option to buy Adriano next year. Even that, I still wouldn't let go of Samuel. He was just starting to get the hang of it. :rolleyes:

heh they were just about to become a solid defensive team. Back to the roots I guess.

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AC Milan offered Shevchenko to Real Madrid

It's been revealed Real Madrid were once offered AC Milan striker Andrei Shevchenko.

Agent Ernesto Bronzetti says Real president Florentino Perez was offered Shevchenko just before he was able to prise Ronaldo away from Inter Milan.

"I was on the boat on the coast of Ibiza with Real President Florentino Perez and Rossoneri Vice-President Adriano Galliani when Shevchenko was offered to us," revealed the consultant.

"The striker was coming off a difficult period of his career, but Perez preferred to sign Ronaldo instead."

Bronzetti also revealed Real Madrid would never consider selling either Ronaldo or David Beckham.

"It's all talk! Ronaldo and David Beckham are the only players they will never sell because they are talented and precious commodities on a media level."

Im glad we got Ronaldo instead. And i would of thought Raul is also a player Real will never sell.

Sheva >>>> Ronaldo....any day of the week.

I think Real Madrid made a good choice in getting Ronaldo then Shevchenko.

heh they were just about to become a solid defensive team. Back to the roots I guess.


Just a tip: All matches Real Madrid played without Samuel (like 8-9) Real Madrid won and in most of that matches didnt received any goal... Samuel is a big name, too bad the name is bigger than the player :boohoo:

are u kiddin me ?? I think Ronaldo is way better than Sheva.... :rockman:

Sheva >>>> Ronaldo....any day of the week.


Wrong.

When on, there is no better player than Ronaldo in the world.

At the end of the year, Ronaldo was unstoppable. You make it seem as if Sheva is much better than Ronnie, that's false.

HT - Real Madrid "B" 0 Conquense 0 @ Santiago Bernabeu with +58.000 ppl! :P

I think getting Ricardinho is a quite good idea. he can be the perfect back-up for Zizou so we can rest him more. and have him in top shape for important matches. Ricardinho finishes contract with Santos in December, so his price wouldn't be too expensive either..

and i HOPE this is not true :kader:

Santos Demand $30 Million-Plus For Robinho
6/25/2005

Santos have stated that they want more than double Real Madrid's latest offer of $15million if they are to allow star player Robinho to leave the club this summer.

The Brazilian giants are determined not to let Real Madrid to sign any of their players on the cheap, after the Spaniards were linked with Ricardinho, and have stated that the opening offer is nowhere near acceptable.

Rumours in the Spanish press suggested that madrid had reached a deal with Robinho, but Santos moved quickly to deny that and even hinted that they believe that the player will be with them until after the 2006 World Cup Finals.

Coach Alexandre Gallo compared the deal with Madrid's $28 million purchase of Argentinian defender Walter Samuel last summer.

"It would be difficult to sell the world's best player for less than that," he said.

Santos president, Marcelo Teixeira, confirmed that no offer had been accepted and any deal could only be announced once the Brazilian outfit had the cash in their bank account.

"I saw that Real Madrid have announced that they have reached an agreement with Robinho," he explained.

"But the club that wants to make an announcement saying that they have bought the player will only be able to do it once we have in our bank account the money that we have valued for the player and the money that they have to pay for the remainder of his contract."

source: goal.com

i've still got this bad feeling that Real wont have signed anyone by the time the transfer window closes. :nape: Santos and Osasuna upping their prices...no sounding too good.

1 question..: if Ronnie, Walter and Robinho take up the 3 non-euro spots do Diogo and Pablo Garcia have euro passports

HT - Real Madrid "B" 0 Conquense 0 @ Santiago Bernabeu with +58.000 ppl! :P


Match ended ! 0-1 but Real Madrid "B" will play next season in 2nd division :-)

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REAL MOVE FOR LAMPARD

Frank Lampard's agent has confirmed that Spanish giants Real Madrid have made a move to sign the England midfielder.

Real have reportedly offered £20m, as well as winger Santiago Solari and unsettled striker Michael Owen for Lampard, which has been rejected by the Stamford Bridge outfit.

"It is very flattering for Frank to be wanted by a club as big as Real," his agent Steve Kutner was quoted as saying by the News of the World.

"But Frank has just had an incredible season at Chelsea and as long as they want him he will give everything to help them win more and more trophies," he added.

Lampard was the major driving force behind Chelsea's demolition job on their Premiership opposition last season and he was voted the Football Writers' Footballer of the Year in May.

The 27-year-old has also become a first choice for Sven-Goran Eriksson and will be a major influence on England's 2006 World Cup bid.

We wont get him but it would be amazin if we did, allthough id miss watchin he play in the Premiership.

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REAL MOVE FOR LAMPARD

Frank Lampard's agent has confirmed that Spanish giants Real Madrid have made a move to sign the England midfielder.

Real have reportedly offered £20m, as well as winger Santiago Solari and unsettled striker Michael Owen for Lampard, which has been rejected by the Stamford Bridge outfit.

"It is very flattering for Frank to be wanted by a club as big as Real," his agent Steve Kutner was quoted as saying by the News of the World.

"But Frank has just had an incredible season at Chelsea and as long as they want him he will give everything to help them win more and more trophies," he added.

Lampard was the major driving force behind Chelsea's demolition job on their Premiership opposition last season and he was voted the Football Writers' Footballer of the Year in May.

The 27-year-old has also become a first choice for Sven-Goran Eriksson and will be a major influence on England's 2006 World Cup bid.

We wont get him but it would be amazin if we did, allthough id miss watchin he play in the Premiership.

It sounds like a big lie

No one can afford Lampard, no chance.

Sounds like BS to me also.

I think getting Ricardinho is a quite good idea. he can be the perfect back-up for Zizou so we can rest him more. and have him in top shape for important matches. Ricardinho finishes contract with Santos in December, so his price wouldn't be too expensive either..

and i HOPE this is not true :kader:

Santos Demand $30 Million-Plus For Robinho
6/25/2005

Santos have stated that they want more than double Real Madrid's latest offer of $15million if they are to allow star player Robinho to leave the club this summer.

The Brazilian giants are determined not to let Real Madrid to sign any of their players on the cheap, after the Spaniards were linked with Ricardinho, and have stated that the opening offer is nowhere near acceptable.

Rumours in the Spanish press suggested that madrid had reached a deal with Robinho, but Santos moved quickly to deny that and even hinted that they believe that the player will be with them until after the 2006 World Cup Finals.

Coach Alexandre Gallo compared the deal with Madrid's $28 million purchase of Argentinian defender Walter Samuel last summer.

"It would be difficult to sell the world's best player for less than that," he said.

Santos president, Marcelo Teixeira, confirmed that no offer had been accepted and any deal could only be announced once the Brazilian outfit had the cash in their bank account.

"I saw that Real Madrid have announced that they have reached an agreement with Robinho," he explained.

"But the club that wants to make an announcement saying that they have bought the player will only be able to do it once we have in our bank account the money that we have valued for the player and the money that they have to pay for the remainder of his contract."

source: goal.com


arsenal already bid £14m for robinho

No one can afford Lampard, no chance.

Sounds like BS to me also.

He moved to RM in my FM game. :fool:But FM is just a game. In seriousness, Lampard won't move to Real Madrid unless he is a money c*nt like Rio and Ashley.

great for Real Madrid B :lui:

meanwhile, the 'A' team :nape: :nape: more and more bad news :nape: we could end without the players we (supposedly) want to sell, and without Robinho :nape:

Madrid are being useless this summer, the prospect of Robinho and Henry playing together isn't really that comforting for United fans. Madrid have to stop acting like cheap bastards and just make the damn bid. So far its been all Marca talk no Madrid action, letting Wanker quickly close in on this kid while they're still speculating.

He moved to RM in my FM game. :fool:But FM is just a game. In seriousness, Lampard won't move to Real Madrid unless he is a money c*nt like Rio and Ashley.
Actually, I think he would be more of a money grubbing cvnt for staying at Chelsea ;)

He realizes he is at a club where if he performs as he has been he could demand an absolutely riddiculous wage. The lure for many who moved to Chelsea, especially in the first year when nothing had been demonstrated on the pitch, was the huge wage they got offered. Since Roman's arrival I believe Frankie has been extended as has JT and, if memory serves, they are head and shoulders the two top wage earners. Everyone else is still getting a handsome fee, though: sorry for not being able to quote actual numbers

The lure of Real Madrid is obvious: Its Real Madrid. But when you have that option, complicated by a switch to another country and league, versus helping lead an up and coming, financially boundless team where you make silly money every week, well, then you can see it would be tough to want to move, even to Madrid

Besides, if I'm not wrong, Lampard's wife (or girlfriend) is catalan and from a family of hardcore barça supporters.

So unless he wants to finish his relation, he better stays in London

RUSI, check ur PM mate

Match ended ! 0-1 but Real Madrid "B" will play next season in 2nd division :-)


yesssssssssssss! excellent news! i am happy they made it! :rockman:

i dont want lampard, sounds like the typical BS

Besides, if I'm not wrong, Lampard's wife (or girlfriend) is catalan and from a family of hardcore barça supporters.

So unless he wants to finish his relation, he better stays in London

I dont think he cares about that...

If you shooooow him the moneeeey...!! hehehe

Chelsea can show him more money than madrid can imagine.

real madrid b wins promotion and today the real madrid basketball team won the league
:ewan:

real madrid b wins promotion and today the real madrid basketball team won the league
:ewan:

Real Madrid Basket won ACB title in amazing match !!

50 seconds remaining and losing by 8 points !! at 6 seconds to the end Herreros did a fantastic 3 point (i screamed a lot in that moment :P)

im not a really good fan of basketball teams, but im really happy Real Madrid won
and also our B team is in Segunda!!!

We have a great team and hope we do really good next year in Segunda

I wouldn't mind Real buying a workhorse for midfield, but Lampard? No way he is leaving Chelsea for a probable spot on our starting lineup