oh, okay. can you give me the name of that forum? i wanna check it out. :)
I knew Floro was going to leave.. but Butrageño?? that's a shocker. :nape:

yeah, Abidal is very good. i watch as much O. Lyon matches as i can and he is a very stable player that rarely makes mistakes.

Its the big soccer fourm, they have quite a bit of crappy posters but they also have good ones that give out some good info. They are also more active than this site
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=241

Yea both will leave, seems like Butrageño was not doing such a great job and will leave with Floro.

Thats good to hear about Abidal, it feels good to be linked to players like Diarra and Abidal. (Y)

thanks :)

MARCA reports today that Sven Goran Eriksson is an alternative if we dont get Carlo Ancelotti. :/

i hope we don't get Chivu. he's good, but almost as injury prone as Woody. :nape:

diarra would be a great buy, but we need another young DM even if we do get him (mascherano or alonso, though i'd doubt pool would sell him)

no henry or rooney, i thought we were done with the galacticos

lets field a balanced team, not more superstars :kader:

chivu is good..but hopefully he is not the next woody (with his injury problems &etc.)


what the f*ck? rooney to madrid?unless rooney be like beckham (with his glamorous lifestyle...) i doubt that fergie will sell him ... i dun see he is coming...

get diarra, & either gallas or chivu...but chivu doesnt convince me enough..havent seen much of him .. :chew:

La televisión, en este caso Tele 5, ha dejado en evidencia a Roberto Carlos. El lateral se defendió en Marca explicando que lo que dijo fue: “¡Tú y tu asistente no os entendéis una mierda! Pero Tele 5 ‘leyó los labios’ al brasileño utilizando unas imágenes nítidas del incidente y desmontó la versión del jugador blanco.

“¡Eh, los dos una mierda...! ¡Los dos! ¡Tú y tú!, fue lo que dijo textualmente Roberto Carlos antes de que Medina Cantalejo se girara y le mandara a la ducha sin pensárselo dos veces.

Una frase que, por tanto, se acerca más a la que se dijo en el acta: “Tú y tú sois unos mierdas”. - Marca
...

Mystery solved. (H)

thanks :)

MARCA reports today that Sven Goran Eriksson is an alternative if we dont get Carlo Ancelotti. :/

i hope we don't get Chivu. he's good, but almost as injury prone as Woody. :nape:
If we get Eriksson, then we can sit back and watch our team lose every game and title. That guy s*cks! He had a classy team with Lazio and didnt do very much with it. At England its the same. Sometimes they play like gods, but sometimes (N. Ireland) they play like ****! We dont need such a coach. I say get Hiddink!

About Chivu, he is really one of the best defenders out there. He gets injured fast. But not as much as Woody ;).

thanks :)

MARCA reports today that Sven Goran Eriksson is an alternative if we dont get Carlo Ancelotti. :/



Eriksson is not the manager Real Madrid need.With him it would be another season winning nothing... :rolleyes:

OH NO!!
Raul is no longer the Champions League All-time Scorer!!!!
That now belongs to Shevchenko !!!!
He scored against Lyon to get his 53rd goal while Raul is still on 52!

The list:
Sheva 53 (Kiev/AC Milan)
Raul 52 (Real Madrid)
Di Stefano 49 (Real Madrid)
Van Nistelrooy 46 (Manchester Utd)

Diarra's signing (or near signing) is welcome news!!!! :) ....Chivu isn't. :(
Henry is always welcome in my books. Anyone that good can always find a spot in my (Dream) Real Madrid squad. (if Ronnie leaves)

Abidal news is good to. this guy sounds like a solid LB to cover/replace RC3.

@Socrates: How available is Gallas? (eg is he coming off contract? looking for a move...ect)

I though we were linked to ......the guy who had a falling out with Mourinho.....ummm.....R.Cavalho! what happened to him. or was that just the forums intrest?

@all: who do we play in the next game and when is it?

According to reports, Gallas has chosen Milan.

And you guys arent getting Ancelotti man, believe me. It's not that I really want him or anything. But its all Real fantasy if you ask me.


Think about Eriksson instead.

Raul Bravo has admitted he lied Queiroz saying he knew how to play CB and had played there several times before, just to get a spot in the lineup :rolleyes:

@Soc, people of radio program El Larguero work close to AS.com, so any interesting new given in the first appear in AS.com the day after.

well honestly if you'd be Bravo wouldn't you have done the same ? playing alongsdie Raul, Zidane, Ronaldo, R.Carlos, Casillas and Beckham for your fave Team ?

At least he improved a lot this season imo

']According to reports, Gallas has chosen Milan.

And you guys arent getting Ancelotti man, believe me. It's not that I really want him or anything. But its all Real fantasy if you ask me.


Think about Eriksson instead.
yt23w - Next game is vs Real Sociedad on Saturday

Gallas to Milan:( I hope not. Eriksson :-puke:

R. Bravo :rofl: He is such a clown and even though he improved this season he is still a clown and still scares the **** out of me.

']According to reports, Gallas has chosen Milan.


Kind of like Cicinho, right?

Pavon and Helguera scare me more than Raul Bravo. At least Bravo has some speed.

This is how I rate our defenders based on ability.

1. Sergio Ramos - Speed, leaping ability, determination, heart, etc...Overall complete defender. Only thing he needs is more experience.
2. Woodgate - Shines every time he plays. Too bad he never plays.
3. Mejia - Solid defender with decent speed.
4. Bravo-
5. Pavon - Good defender but looks sloppy at times and is mistake prone.
6. Helguera - Of all our defenders, he's always made me the most nervous. He lacks pace and is very sloppy. He slide tackles when he shouldn't which then leaves Casillas wide open. He is a good defender, but he's quickly fading.

anybody know anything about michael dawson? He is a young CB from Tottenham we are being linked to

i honestly dont know much about him

good news about diarra but we wont know for real until july

edit:

joaquin will leave betis this summer!

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=377302&CPID=23&clid=185&lid=2&title=Joaquin+ready+to+leave+Betis

Dawson is a upcomming English NT player (recently U21)

Quality skills as a defender, well he's very young yet (22).

played for Notts County, switched to Tottenham last year and is fastly becoming an automatic choice. Just recently signed together with Lennon (an exciting winger) new long term deals at Tottenham.

@BEN BECKHAM- i dun wanna see more englishman...and dawson is just another decent defender..if u ask me..it's better to pick Joseph Yobo than dawson..the only difference is=age.

Dawson is a upcomming English NT player (recently U21)

Quality skills as a defender, well he's very young yet (22).

played for Notts County, switched to Tottenham last year and is fastly becoming an automatic choice. Just recently signed together with Lennon (an exciting winger) new long term deals at Tottenham.
Is Dawson injury prone? Just wondering if he is fit or is he easily injured.

Nuno thats also how I rate our defenders...too bad Bravo is fourth choice, it shows that we need 2 CB's this summer as Woody cant stay fit to play so Bravo is actually 3rd choice most of the time....or 2nd because Caro seems to favor him more than Meija :kader:

About Joaquin, I dont know if we should be interested in him. He is pretty inconsistant but he has amazing ability so it is a bit risky. At least now he will be cheaper than before if we decide to get him.

Raul Bravo has admitted he lied Queiroz saying he knew how to play CB and had played there several times before, just to get a spot in the lineup

he could be the single reason Madrid didnt win the treble in 04....

Dawson's had a history of injury problems. But he's not been injured this season so far.

he could be the single reason Madrid didnt win the treble in 04....

Pavon and Helguera were awfull anyway so I wouldn't blame it just on Bravo.

Dawson's had a history of injury problems. But he's not been injured this season so far.
just what we need another cb with injury problems :nape:

can you tell us anything else about him? I havent seen much of the premiership this season

speaking of injured defenders, woody most likely done for the year

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=377428&CPID=4&clid=114&lid=2&title=World+Cup+woe+for+Woody

time to sell this guy back to england, what a terrible buy

good news about diarra but we wont know for real until july

edit:

joaquin will leave betis this summer!

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=377302&CPID=23&clid=185&lid=2&title=Joaquin+ready+to+leave+Betis

I hope the Diarra deal will happen he would be a great add.For Joaquin he is a great player and he want to leave Betis maybe Real Madrid should try to get him.

Don't know if u have noticed we haven't lost any match since Fernando Martin is in charge. Too bad we have tied so many times :(

Kind of like Cicinho, right?

Cicinho would have field days at Milan with Gattuso covering him at the right. Shame he picked the wrong club, now he has to do something he cant, defend.

Dawson is a upcomming English NT player (recently U21)

Quality skills as a defender, well he's very young yet (22).

played for Notts County, switched to Tottenham last year and is fastly becoming an automatic choice. Just recently signed together with Lennon (an exciting winger) new long term deals at Tottenham.

He played for Nottingham Forest.

He played for Nottingham Forest.

oops, my mistake.

@BEN BECKHAM- i dun wanna see more englishman...and dawson is just another decent defender..if u ask me..it's better to pick Joseph Yobo than dawson..the only difference is=age.

Easy - I was just passing on some Infos, after it was asked in a post before - I didn't say Madrid should sign him.


speaking of injured defenders, woody most likely done for the year

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=377428&CPID=4&clid=114&lid=2&title=World+Cup+woe+for+Woody

time to sell this guy back to england, what a terrible buy

He really is as bad as Cris Kirkland - literlally injuried while struggling over a "grashalm"... really too bad, because if once in 100 days he's fit for a few hours - he looks like a class defender. I doub't Madrid can sell him for a lot of money.


Well I'm still hoping Van Buyten gets signed from HSV.

http://esportes.terra.com.br/futebol/europeu2005/interna/0,,OI952000-EI5338,00.html

yep...its everywhere....
woodgate should retire. He's done.
they should cancel his contract and part ways...
proof of Perez's genius!

What a shame about Woody, great defender when fit. But he's gotta go. :(

Cicinho lied his way to Madrid :) The press usually trust their sources I guess..

i just match of they day from saturday, dawson did not impress. He got booked twice and was sent off against newcastle. He is still young, he wont be 23 until nov.

thanks to those that posted info on him

We should do everything to buy Joaquin, and if we do get him; sell Beckham.

I'd love this -

--------------Casillas--------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--______--_____--
---------Diarra-Guti/Baptista-------
--Joaquin--Raul/Cassano--Robinho--
-------------Ronaldo-------------

i dunno about selling Becks he does try his best all the time and gives his all. (and makes shyteloads of moolah)

why not this:
-------------Casillas-------------
--Cicinho-Ramos-______-Abidal-- <-(other opts: Gallas, Van Buyten, Bravo :nape: )
-------------Diarra--------------
-Becks-Cassano-Robinho-Joaquin-
------------Ronaldo-------------

then Cassano or Robinho can move up and become the 2nd Forward. And all 4 can rotate around the pitch.
Just a 'what if' formation.

But i do believe that Madrid should try for him.

I thought Ronaldo was fat and had to go :jambo:

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/5c3196raulyguti288p.jpg
Gutierrez = PIMP (H)

lol guys who saw this:

CONVOCATORIA REALMADRID-REAL SOCIEDAD

Porteros: Casillas y Diego López.

Defensas: Míchel Salgado, Pavón, Cicinho, Sergio Ramos y Raúl Bravo.

Centrocampistas: Diogo, Gravesen, Zidane, Robinho, Guti, Adrián Martín y Baptista.

Delanteros: Raúl, Ronaldo y Cassano.

No convocados: Helguera (decisión técnica), Roberto Carlos (sancionado) y Beckham, Pablo García, Woodgate y Miñambres (lesionados).

Concentración: Sábado 8 de abril a las 12:00 horas. Estadio Santiago Bernabéu.

Próximo entrenamiento: Martes 11 de abril a las 17:30 horas. Ciudad Real Madrid.

they forgot mejia again

Chelsea join Real in race for ace Chivu (http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1139767,00.html)

this could become reality... :O

--------------Casillas-------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Chivu--Abidal--
---------------Diarra-------------
--Joaquin----Riquelme----Robinho--
--------Cassano---Ronaldo--------

but it probably won't.. :nape:

this could become reality... :O

--------------Casillas-------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Chivu--Abidal--
---------------Diarra-------------
--Joaquin----Riquelme----Robinho--
--------Cassano---Ronaldo--------

but it probably won't.. :nape:


I would kill for that lineup or...


--------------Casillas-------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Chivu--Abidal--
---------------Diarra-------------
-----------Guti/Baptista-----------
--Joaquin----Riquelme----Robinho--
--------------Ronaldo------------

We should do everything to buy Joaquin, and if we do get him; sell Beckham.

Thats actually a really good idea...or even better get C. Ronaldo and let go of Beckham :borat: Although Joaquin is more realistic than C. Ronaldo.

I thought Ronaldo was fat and had to go :jambo:
Different people have different opinions...and mine has not changed he is still overweight and shold be sold.

Adrian Martin getting selected in the squad(Y). Lets see if he gets some mins in the game. oussimoes Mejia will be in the game tommarow.

ahh...talking about Riquelme...is he still on loan @ Villareal from Barca or not? (i mean...if he is still have a contract with Barca?)

he is really a class player.. :rockman: but...since he is a jogger rather than a sprinter.. i doubt we can get him since we already have Zizou

Thats actually a really good idea...or even better get C. Ronaldo and let go of Beckham :borat: Although Joaquin is more realistic than C. Ronaldo.


Different people have different opinions...and mine has not changed he is still overweight and shold be sold.

Adrian Martin getting selected in the squad(Y). Lets see if he gets some mins in the game. oussimoes Mejia will be in the game tommarow.

i know he will be in but on the real. site they forgot him again on the list who will face socidad

ahh...talking about Riquelme...is he still on loan @ Villareal from Barca or not? (i mean...if he is still have a contract with Barca?)

he is really a class player.. :rockman: but...since he is a jogger rather than a sprinter.. i doubt we can get him since we already have Zizou
No, he was bought from Villarreal on summer

Real Madrid-Real Sociedad 20:00 CET

Ronie going for his 100th goal for Madrid tonight! :rockman:
with the abscences of Becks (injured) Zidane (half-injured) and RC (suspended), here's how we will probably start:

--------------Casillas--------------
--Salgado--Ramos--Mejía--R.Bravo--
----------Baptista--Guti------------
-Cicinho--------------------Robinho-
-------------Raúl-------------------
--------------------Ronaldo---------

Real Madrid-Real Sociedad 20:00 CET

Ronie going for his 100th goal for Madrid tonight! :rockman:
with the abscences of Becks (injured) Zidane (half-injured) and RC (suspended), here's how we will probably start:

--------------Casillas--------------
--Salgado--Ramos--Mejía--R.Bravo--
----------Baptista--Guti------------
-Cicinho--------------------Robinho-
-------------Raúl-------------------
--------------------Ronaldo---------
You mean 100th league goal right?! Because i thought he already scored more then 100 for Real ;)

so...this is the guy who most of you really/desperately wants to sell ( because he is lazy & fat..not because he cant score goals...) :nape:

http://i.eurosport.com/2006/04/01/266580-940747-458-238.jpg

1-0 ronaldo

EDIT:100th league goals for Ronnie, 14th goals in LaLiga this season :chew:

Yes Syaz, that is that guy we want to sell, you mindless dickhead (H)

My God, I hate Robinho :kader:

Guti sent off....Jesus, Guti is such a god damn infant.

surprise red card for guti... :(

again a player sent of for "moaning" to the ref... sounds familiar to the "colapse" of the Queiroz era...

Nice for Ronaldo himself that he got his 100th - I'd still sell him tough

He's done great service for the club but a "blood change" is needed at Madrid
+ he's way to moody. and aslong as he plays like that at least the fee will get a bit higher.

fvck off raul...yeah! i'm really angry with him today...he dissapoints me alot...not because i'm trying to be bias to ronaldo or whoever on the pitch..but what does he do? just passing the ball and run run run...

dont say that he is stil dont get the match fitness yet...it's been around a month since his recovery & it's impossible that you cant get a match fitness in that space of time..(for pro players)

he got 90 minutes...but hell... :nape:

cassano also got the raul virus..he is slow today

zidane-very creative..but sumtimes very slow...

robinho-tireless midfielder..but he waste too much ball

baptista- same like robinho...but he just have to use his brain to plan the game & before shooting

ronaldo-decent...congrats on his 100th league goals

guti...- overall is OK ...but the red card is stupid (if it's because he is moaning to the ref)


cicnho- very offensive defender...

ramos- as always...he is the most important defender for us in each match..no doubt about it

mejia-doesnt invovle much with the ball...but he is OK

r.bravo..he keeps on improving..but sumtimes he is 'lost'

cassilas- :chew:

What a dissapointing match, only Baptista and the defenders can be saved.

I think one of the clues is that most midfielders didn't know where they had to play. Robinho should have stuck to the right (he is dexterous, i don't know why he allways has to play on the left), and Zidane to the left (he has played there lots of matches).

But instead of this Zidane came to the middle and invaded Raul space, so neither him nor Raul performed like expected. And Robinho wasted all his aportunities cause he doesn't dare to cross the ball with his left foot (the bad one).

argh...when Real Madrid win the match;/ draw draw draw :nape:

disappointing result

i hope we can secure second this season

Crappy result and I heard we palyed like ****. No crativity, no desire, no nothing...and its not the frist time it happens this season. I have not seen the game yet but once I do I will post more.

( Enough about Ronaldo too, no one is going to change their opinons on him...btw I heard he got injured in the game )

Lets see which Madrid player tells the press, "The league is not lost yet" this week.

Well a disappointed draw.Good for Ronaldo that he scored his 100th goals with Real Madrid but he got injured in the match.A Cassilas error did let Real Madrid have the 3 pts, but it's not all his fault.Guti red card was not smart. :nape:

Again a draw...VERY dissapointing! Without Ronaldo we are **** atm! We are soo lucky to have him! Raul was :kader: ! I cant believe it, how can he forget how to play football! Shame Cassilas had that error, but i cant blame him...he saved our a$$ like 100 times! Next time Cassano should start over Raul, he needs time to play good. I dont want to lose him to an Italian team this summer!

Congrats to Ronaldo for his 100th!

I really hope we can get second! Because if we end 3rd, then we r gonna have a hard time getting to the CL with this sh*tty play. :kader:

I just read that Fernando Martin was furious at the team yesterday. He ran to the team's room and talked for about 15 mins with Caro and Raul. After that, Caro 'decided' to give the team some hard work behind closed doors today.

I love this! This team needs to work and this is the way to show those players how things are going after Perez left. Good job Martin!!

http://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?id=27194

and another weekend were the lead could have been reduced by 2 points if RM would win those games... :nape:

I just read that Fernando Martin was furious at the team yesterday. He ran to the team's room and talked for about 15 mins with Caro and Raul. After that, Caro 'decided' to give the team some hard work behind closed doors today.

I love this! This team needs to work and this is the way to show those players how things are going after Perez left. Good job Martin!!

http://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?id=27194

Seems like Martin met with the team this morining and decided to lift the punishment :kader: That was a very very bad move, why the hell did he lift it:(

BTW was going to post this earlier but the Castilla team has enough points to not get relegated :rockman: Man I wish we would use them in the league now that they are safe in their league.

Also Real Madrid Juvenil A (team with players between 17 and 19 years old) has won their league this week. They will go to the USA and play the Dallas cup. http://fc.dallas.mlsnet.com/MLS/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20060320&content_id=54100&vkey=pr_fcd&fext=.jsp&team=fcd

did people forget 4-0 over Deportivo?
in our last 12 games we have: won 9 - draw3 - lost 0
but i agree that in a time when we neeeed maximum points from each game we should be getting them. and from what i hear Robinho needs to work on his finishing.
just saw the Ronaldo goal. great setup from Zidane!! pin point cross. then a lucky deflection but still sweet!!
i get the feeling that the closer to the WC we get the better Ronaldo will get.
Post more later...

did people forget 4-0 over Deportivo?
in our last 12 games we have: won 9 - draw3 - lost 0
but i agree that in a time when we neeeed maximum points from each game we should be getting them. and from what i hear Robinho needs to work on his finishing.
just saw the Ronaldo goal. great setup from Zidane!! pin point cross. then a lucky deflection but still sweet!!
i get the feeling that the closer to the WC we get the better Ronaldo will get.
Post more later...

That's a good point of view. You don't need to change much for next season...

Again a draw...VERY dissapointing! Without Ronaldo we are **** atm! We are soo lucky to have him! Raul was ! I cant believe it, how can he forget how to play football! Shame Cassilas had that error, but i cant blame him...he saved our a$$ like 100 times! Next time Cassano should start over Raul, he needs time to play good. I dont want to lose him to an Italian team this summer!

Congrats to Ronaldo for his 100th!

I really hope we can get second! Because if we end 3rd, then we r gonna have a hard time getting to the CL with this sh*tty play.

i'm totally agree with u...it shud be Cassano over raul for the next match..(huh...before this i already said that Raul is the most underperforming striker & i remember someone over here said that he's not fit yet
naah...)


Also Real Madrid Juvenil A (team with players between 17 and 19 years old) has won their league this week. They will go to the USA and play the Dallas cup. http://fc.dallas.mlsnet.com/MLS/new...t=.jsp&team=fcd

great!...but i doubt that most of them will be the madrid's future.. :nape:

BTW: considering that Ronaldo is leaving (yeah...it's fvcking freak to sell him..it's like selling RVN for united) i dunno who can take his place after this...Raul have done much in the goalscoring for the past but i do believe that he is the next gudjohnsen. the next manager after Caro shud switch his position as attacking midfielder...he is not a striker anymore..he is done for that position.

(honestly...i cant even remember when is the last time Raul had score for Madrid..)

the question is: who is the next main striker for us for the next season?

robinho? :nape:

baptista? he is a midfielder... :jambo:

soldado? naah...

... :rolleyes:

some 1 know how serieus the injury of ronaldo&beckham is, i dont hope its to serieus

i'm totally agree with u...it shud be Cassano over raul for the next match..(huh...before this i already said that Raul is the most underperforming striker & i remember someone over here said that he's not fit yet
naah...)



great!...but i doubt that most of them will be the madrid's future.. :nape:

BTW: considering that Ronaldo is leaving (yeah...it's fvcking freak to sell him..it's like selling RVN for united) i dunno who can take his place after this...Raul have done much in the goalscoring for the past but i do believe that he is the next gudjohnsen. the next manager after Caro shud switch his position as attacking midfielder...he is not a striker anymore..he is done for that position.

(honestly...i cant even remember when is the last time Raul had score for Madrid..)

the question is: who is the next main striker for us for the next season?

robinho? :nape:

baptista? he is a midfielder... :jambo:

soldado? naah...

... :rolleyes:

What?? Raul does not even play as the striker Ronaldo does that. Raul plays a bit deeper from him, and yes Cassano should have started over him. Next season we dont really have to look for Soldado we can buy someone to replace him you know...You can remember the last time Raul scored? How many games have you seen this season?

did people forget 4-0 over Deportivo?
in our last 12 games we have: won 9 - draw3 - lost 0
but i agree that in a time when we neeeed maximum points from each game we should be getting them. and from what i hear Robinho needs to work on his finishing.
just saw the Ronaldo goal. great setup from Zidane!! pin point cross. then a lucky deflection but still sweet!!
i get the feeling that the closer to the WC we get the better Ronaldo will get.
Post more later...
haha, were going to need to do a lot of things this summer to fix this team up, we beat Depor 4-0...so what is everything ok now?

BAD NEWS

Ronaldo will be out for 3 weeks!! :nape: :nape:

http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20060410dasdaiftb_19&anchor=dasftb&type=Tes&d_date=20060410

that can only mean Cassano / maybe even Soldado to play (where has he disappeared to - the B Team ?) ... :ewan:

Alltough Ronaldo has been in better form recently, he surely won't mind, aslong as he's fit for Brazil - afterall that was he has been trying to achieve all season.

As for Madrid - it's their own fault, clubs ahead and behind them drop points and they can't take advantage of that - the Primera Division is surely over (Barca might have blips, but only slight ones and the other teams are not good enough to reduce the gap)

2-4 place doesn't really mind anymore (the pride appart), I've not seen a big club fail in the Champions League Qualification so far.

that can only mean Cassano / maybe even Soldado to play (where has he disappeared to - the B Team ?) ... :ewan:

Alltough Ronaldo has been in better form recently, he surely won't mind, aslong as he's fit for Brazil - afterall that was he has been trying to achieve all season.

As for Madrid - it's their own fault, clubs ahead and behind them drop points and they can't take advantage of that - the Primera Division is surely over (Barca might have blips, but only slight ones and the other teams are not good enough to reduce the gap)

2-4 place doesn't really mind anymore (the pride appart), I've not seen a big club fail in the Champions League Qualification so far.
Well that Ronaldo is out is a bit bad, but now Cassano can play. BUT i really see them having VERY difficult times getting qualified if they play like this. And i really dont want to see Real in the Uefa Cup :|

I think I'd rather see Cassano play than Soldado. Shame about Big Ron, just as he was hitting form aswell. :(

BTW: considering that Ronaldo is leaving (yeah...it's fvcking freak to sell him..it's like selling RVN for united)
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anyone have the highlights? The gols, the ridiculous misses from our players, etc...etc...

I think I'd rather see Cassano play than Soldado. Shame about Big Ron, just as he was hitting form aswell. :(

I would actully let Soldado play, he is a pure 9 and can score. I see Cassano as more of an AM/support striker. Why not play them both at the same time? Not like Zizou can play every game ( well Caro thinks differently than me ). Would be nice to have both of them play...also have some more Castilla players play but I konw it wont happen so I wont say any more.

BenBeckham - Soldado is playing with Castilla again and is the leading scorer of the second divison. :jambo:

I think I'd rather see Cassano play than Soldado. Shame about Big Ron, just as he was hitting form aswell. :(

I think Caro will use Cassano now the Ronaldo is out for 3 weeks. :nape:
Maybe Soldado will get call-up to play with the first team.

please Lord, let cassano play

some news!

Real Madrid will contact Mahamadou Diarrá's agent before sunday (http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/637687.html)

Man United is said to have had a deal with him, but it hit a snag when the player himself said that he wanted to play for Real Madrid! :)

there's also some talk about Madrid going for Gerrard again.

Fabio Aurelio could come on a free transfer in June. he is on Real Madrid's agenda for LB position. (http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/637688.html)

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now that Ronie is out AGAIN.. i wanna see this against Getafe on sunday.

--------------Casillas------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Mejía--Carlos--
--------Baptista---Guti-----------
--Beckham---Cassano---Robinho--
-------------Soldado-------------

there's also some talk about Madrid going for Gerrard again.


When will this crap stop? :(

when Steven decides to come to Madrid.. :chew:

Which will never happen unfortunately :p

Screw Gerrard! We need Diarra!!! This is what I'd like to see.

--------------Casillas---------------
Cicinho---Woody---Ramos---R.Carlos
--------------Diarra----------------
--Joaquim---Baptista----Robinho----
-------Ronaldo-----Raul------------

Ferocious wings, tight defence, and deadly attack. Notice how I removed the slow players. If only Woody would stay healthy.

Unfortunately Lyon want stupid amounts of money for Diarra - they want more than what they got for Essien for christs sake :( I don't think he's even worth £24m. I know we have the cash, but, I don't like paying over the odds for a player. But yeah, what an awesome team that would be Nuno. Although, I'm not sure Cicinho is very capable of defending for long periods of time, man. :p

Unfortunately Lyon want stupid amounts of money for Diarra - they want more than what they got for Essien for christs sake :( I don't think he's even worth £24m. I know we have the cash, but, I don't like paying over the odds for a player. But yeah, what an awesome team that would be Nuno. Although, I'm not sure Cicinho is very capable of defending for long periods of time, man. :p

I have to agree, it sucks that Diarra plays for Lyon. I hope we dont pay more than 30 M Euros which I think is too much but I think that should be the cut off for him...

BTW why would we get Gerrard if we get Diarra?

Aulas is just a big duplicitous windbag who will say anything at any point. I remember us dealing with that twat last year. Yes, chelsea are intrested. No, we wont sell. Ok, we'll seel, but only for the same price as Gerrard. No, we wont sell anymore. Ok, he can go. No, we wont let Essien leave. He wont fleece you like he fleeced us, mostly because you give half a damn about how much you spend, but the guy is a greedy twat who you should never trust a thing from

And as for Gerrard, he is a selfish, moody hubcap who has undeniable class but if you are going to get someone from Benitez, make it Alonso. Youre far smarter to buy young and domestic

I have to agree, it sucks that Diarra plays for Lyon. I hope we dont pay more than 30 M Euros which I think is too much but I think that should be the cut off for him...

BTW why would we get Gerrard if we get Diarra?

Totally agree with you! :hump:

Aulas is just a big duplicitous windbag who will say anything at any point. I remember us dealing with that twat last year. Yes, chelsea are intrested. No, we wont sell. Ok, we'll seel, but only for the same price as Gerrard. No, we wont sell anymore. Ok, he can go. No, we wont let Essien leave. He wont fleece you like he fleeced us, mostly because you give half a damn about how much you spend, but the guy is a greedy twat who you should never trust a thing from

And as for Gerrard, he is a selfish, moody hubcap who has undeniable class but if you are going to get someone from Benitez, make it Alonso. Youre far smarter to buy young and domestic

Damn, kind of reminds me of the Santos president:O :kader: I sure as hell hope it does not go like that. Otherwise we will have to look for a differnet player.

I dont think either will leave, just media bs but if it were somehow possible yea I would go for Xabi Alonso too.

news from skysports:
Lyon warn United over Diarra

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=378404&CPID=24&clid=186&lid=&title=Lyon+warn+United+over+Diarra

"...Lyon have warned Manchester United that they will have to exceed the £24.5 million Chelsea paid for Michael Essien if they want to land Mahamadou Diarra..."

Agent denies Diarra deal
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=378541&CPID=23&clid=186&lid=&title=Agent+denies+Diarra+deal
"...Mahamadou Diarra's agent Frederic Guerra has denied a report in Spanish daily Marca that claimed the Lyon star is primed for a move to Manchester United or Real Madrid..."

Beckham interested in U.S. move
http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=378421&CPID=23&clid=186&lid=&title=Beckham+interested+in+US+move
"..."At some stage, playing in America is possible," Beckham declared. "I've one year left at Real, and maybe two more after that, but things can change in football and the American league does interest me."..."

BTW has anyone heard of Yaya Toure? Plays for Olympiakos. Said to be similar to Patrick Vieria in both playing style and stature. An auto-choice in the Ivory Coast NT, does anyone know anything else about him?

I say him play in the African Nations Cup Final and he was alright. He controlled the defense and assisted in the attack fairly well but that was against Egypt. Anybody seen him play?

Aurelio has already signed for us. Done deal.

Martin is seriously thinking about calling elections for the end of May. The idea is to clear the Boardroom of opposition before he starts the dressing room cull. 1st player on Martin's chopping block: Raul

Closely followed by Roberto Carlos, Gravesen, Pavon, Soldado.

Since Martin took over the club have put on a charm offensive to try and keep a fat Brazilian from leaving come June. Martin was regarded by many as Florentinos protege - but he has been trying, unsuccessfully, to break away from that.

Raul is not helping matters inside the dressing room.

After the 1-1 draw with Real Sociedad Martin called a meeting with the technical staff and the players.

Overruling Caro's decision to give the players a three day holiday (excluding those called up by Luis Aragones for the selection get together) Martin read the riot act at the squad and accused them of not giving a toss about the club.

"We stand to lose more than 30 million € if we don't finish second and some of you are more bothered about what you should wear on the way home..."

Some mention was made at this point of the frequency in which certain players visit city centre nightclubs. Martin then went on to spit out:

"What kind of image does that give to our fans? I want to see the determination and performance that you showed against Deportivo..."

At this point Raul stood up and walked towards the door; "If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is..."

Martin sulked off met with Butragueño and then announced that the players could have their holidays after all.

Apparently he wants Raul's head.

Aurelio has already signed for us. Done deal.

Martin is seriously thinking about calling elections for the end of May.

Raul closely followed by Roberto Carlos, Gravesen, Pavon, Soldado.

At this point Raul stood up and walked towards the door; "If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is..."


Wasn’t it planned not to hold any elections now or in the near future because of the team ? I think that was mentioned just after Perez retired.

Can please somebody post more infos on Aurelio – where is he from, where does he play, what position(s) etc ?

Why Soldado ? WTF has he done – other than being a great prospect -Don’t you mean Salgado instead?

What about Helguera – he’s not even anymore a bench player and he will stay?

Who said that ?! Raul or Martin ?

"If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is..."

Aye, that's the negative aftermath of what I'd intended to imply. He's seriously contemplating elections so that he could facilitate the clearout with minimal resistance. It'd be a disaster for the club. Martin has two main opposition groups - a consortium led by ex-rally driver Carlos Sanz - who allegedly do not have sufficient cash to put up a prolonged struggle and who again allegedly would milk the club dry, very much in the same manner as Ramon Mendoza and his cronies did. The other group is forming themselves atm and will be fronted by a long time Florentino friend, backer and shadowy financer Fernando Tapias.

And predictably, the Barcelona press are getting in on the act by claiming that Real are about to unload Raul to us at Liverpool.

<Raul> If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is...

Aye, that's the negative aftermath of what I'd intended to imply. He's seriously contemplating elections so that he could facilitate the clearout with minimal resistance. It'd be a disaster for the club. Martin has two main opposition groups - a consortium led by ex-rally driver Carlos Sanz - who allegedly do not have sufficient cash to put up a prolonged struggle and who again allegedly would milk the club dry, very much in the same manner as Ramon Mendoza and his cronies did. The other group is forming themselves atm and will be fronted by a long time Florentino friend, backer and shadowy financer Fernando Tapias.

And predictably, the Barcelona press are getting in on the act by claiming that Real are about to unload Raul to us at Liverpool.

<Raul> If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is...

Press say many things, press say we are gonna sign this summer like 258 new players, 37 new coachs, and the whole team is gonna be sacked.

We have Raul, Ronaldo, Cassano, Baptista, Soldado, Robinho... all they will stay and we are signing:

Reyes
Henry
Adriano
Ibrahimovic
RVN
Rooney
C.Ronaldo

...

As you can see there is many press blablabla, Raul is going nowhere, only will leave Madrid if there is many money involved, and even happening that i doubt it.

I just wish Ronaldo and Woody would stop getting injured. If they had stayed healthy all season, we may have been in a different situation right now.

Injuries at the wrong time really killed us this year

Press say many things, press say we are gonna sign this summer like 258 new players, 37 new coachs, and the whole team is gonna be sacked.

We have Raul, Ronaldo, Cassano, Baptista, Soldado, Robinho... all they will stay and we are signing:

Reyes
Henry
Adriano
Ibrahimovic
RVN
Rooney
C.Ronaldo

...

As you can see there is many press blablabla, Raul is going nowhere, only will leave Madrid if there is many money involved, and even happening that i doubt it.

One of Martin's first "under the table" actions was to "leak" to Marca the possibility of Raul taking a 30% wage cut on his remaining contract. Marca send journo to training ground to interview Raul about the rumours.

"No way. I deserve every cent of what I get!" was his answer that was then plastered all over the Madrid press.

And what I know I didn't get from the press either.

And what I know I didn't get from the press either.

I am just curious, where excatly did you get all this from? If you dont mind me asking.

of course players earn all the money they get.. cause thats the money they practically bring the club..

We have Raul, Ronaldo, Cassano, Baptista, Soldado, Robinho... all they will stay and we are signing:

Reyes
Henry
Adriano
Ibrahimovic
RVN
Rooney
C.Ronaldo


you people have come under the imression that buying players is like buying toys or buying them like slaves on the market. unfortunately you just buy and never end up using them.
:(

you people have come under the imression that buying players is like buying toys or buying them like slaves on the market. unfortunately you just buy and never end up using them.
:(


You should read i was kidding about the press stuff, it was not for real.

Aurelio has already signed for us. Done deal.

Martin is seriously thinking about calling elections for the end of May. The idea is to clear the Boardroom of opposition before he starts the dressing room cull. 1st player on Martin's chopping block: Raul

Closely followed by Roberto Carlos, Gravesen, Pavon, Soldado.

Since Martin took over the club have put on a charm offensive to try and keep a fat Brazilian from leaving come June. Martin was regarded by many as Florentinos protege - but he has been trying, unsuccessfully, to break away from that.

Raul is not helping matters inside the dressing room.

After the 1-1 draw with Real Sociedad Martin called a meeting with the technical staff and the players.

Overruling Caro's decision to give the players a three day holiday (excluding those called up by Luis Aragones for the selection get together) Martin read the riot act at the squad and accused them of not giving a toss about the club.

"We stand to lose more than 30 million € if we don't finish second and some of you are more bothered about what you should wear on the way home..."

Some mention was made at this point of the frequency in which certain players visit city centre nightclubs. Martin then went on to spit out:

"What kind of image does that give to our fans? I want to see the determination and performance that you showed against Deportivo..."

At this point Raul stood up and walked towards the door; "If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is..."

Martin sulked off met with Butragueño and then announced that the players could have their holidays after all.

Apparently he wants Raul's head.
Where is this all from?! :| This is some weird news man. But i dont think its true. We'll see. Our team is turning into a mess right now.

Can please somebody post more infos on Aurelio – where is he from, where does he play, what position(s) etc ?


Sorry for the late response. He is a LB and his contract runs out so we could get him for free. I would go for it, atleast for backup if we sign a better player. He is from Brazil and plays for Valencia.

I am just curious, where excatly did you get all this from? If you dont mind me asking.
I too would love to know where you got that from Ewan. I just ask mostly because the detail is astounding. Its like you were reading that from a movie script. I mean, even I was in that room, I doubt I wouldve been able to recall the words with such clarity.

Very intresting revelations, though

I too would love to know where you got that from Ewan. I just ask mostly because the detail is astounding. Its like you were reading that from a movie script. I mean, even I was in that room, I doubt I wouldve been able to recall the words with such clarity.

Very intresting revelations, though

Well to be fair to him there were some people that did disagree with Martin, it was Raul, Guti, Carlos, Zidane, Salgado, and Helguera. I also dont see Raul's saying "I deserve every penny I get" all over the media. I just dont see Raul as saying what Haukur was posting. I also dont know if he got the right info on the future candidates for presdient if there is an election.

Aurelio has already signed for us. Done deal.

Martin is seriously thinking about calling elections for the end of May. The idea is to clear the Boardroom of opposition before he starts the dressing room cull. 1st player on Martin's chopping block: Raul

Closely followed by Roberto Carlos, Gravesen, Pavon, Soldado.

Since Martin took over the club have put on a charm offensive to try and keep a fat Brazilian from leaving come June. Martin was regarded by many as Florentinos protege - but he has been trying, unsuccessfully, to break away from that.

Raul is not helping matters inside the dressing room.

After the 1-1 draw with Real Sociedad Martin called a meeting with the technical staff and the players.

Overruling Caro's decision to give the players a three day holiday (excluding those called up by Luis Aragones for the selection get together) Martin read the riot act at the squad and accused them of not giving a toss about the club.

"We stand to lose more than 30 million € if we don't finish second and some of you are more bothered about what you should wear on the way home..."

Some mention was made at this point of the frequency in which certain players visit city centre nightclubs. Martin then went on to spit out:

"What kind of image does that give to our fans? I want to see the determination and performance that you showed against Deportivo..."

At this point Raul stood up and walked towards the door; "If that's the image that you want the club to project then you have absolutely no f*cking idea of what Real Madrid is..."

Martin sulked off met with Butragueño and then announced that the players could have their holidays after all.

Apparently he wants Raul's head.

There some crazy stuff there :S

He just forget to take his pills. :)

Haukur, your'e full of sh!t. :)

I too would love to know where you got that from Ewan. I just ask mostly because the detail is astounding. Its like you were reading that from a movie script. I mean, even I was in that room, I doubt I wouldve been able to recall the words with such clarity.

Very intresting revelations, though

Sometimes in life, within the professional or personal capacity, paths cross, acquaintances are made, friendships are forged and information is exchanged.I just thought the Madrid supporters would like to know exactly what is going on with their team. Whether they choose to believe it, or bunk it, is entirely their prerogative, I'm not fussed. It's just mere morsels of info of which the veracity has been ascertained that I'm passing on in good faith. But if you prefer your news the prepackaged, agenda driven, media way, who am I to argue eh.

Hey guys, sorry if I'm going offtopic, but can anybody who's subscribed to Real Madrid.com exclusive zone tell me what's about in "Zidane will say goodbye to the French national team"?

Is he leaving before world cup or what? :S

Sometimes in life, within the professional or personal capacity, paths cross, acquaintances are made, friendships are forged and information is exchanged.I just thought the Madrid supporters would like to know exactly what is going on with their team. Whether they choose to believe it, or bunk it, is entirely their prerogative, I'm not fussed. It's just mere morsels of info of which the veracity has been ascertained that I'm passing on in good faith. But if you prefer your news the prepackaged, agenda driven, media way, who am I to argue eh.

Well its a bit hard to believe all that when there are no sources or anything to back it up. I can believe some of it but for the most part I dont think that it all went down as you have been told.

What are youall worrying about? Just another day in the life of a RM fan :kader:

Sometimes in life, within the professional or personal capacity, paths cross, acquaintances are made, friendships are forged and information is exchanged.I just thought the Madrid supporters would like to know exactly what is going on with their team. Whether they choose to believe it, or bunk it, is entirely their prerogative, I'm not fussed. It's just mere morsels of info of which the veracity has been ascertained that I'm passing on in good faith. But if you prefer your news the prepackaged, agenda driven, media way, who am I to argue eh.Many spanish media are allways willing to harm Madrid image, plus they are closer to Madrid daily life. So no way foreign media can give such shocking details without have been previously published in spanish newspapers.

Getafe-Real Madrid 19:00 CET

Becks and García is fully recovered. :)

probable lineup

--------------Casillas--------------
---Cicinho--Ramos--Bravo--Carlos---
--------------Gravesen-------------
-Beckham------Zidane------Robinho-
----------Raúl--------Baptista------


HALA MADRID!!

come on, we have to win tonight. its been a long time since we've won :).

--------------Casillas--------------
---Cicinho--Ramos--Bravo--Carlos---
--------------Gravesen-------------
-Beckham------Zidane------Robinho-
----------Raúl--------Baptista------Just Gravesen for Guti.. We are displaying a reliable 11. We don't have excuses not to win this one (we neither hadn't vs Real Sociedad :( ).

Raul to score again now he's playing as forward again! VAMOS CAPITAN!!

Confirmed a weird lineup. Cicinho instead of Becks (with Salgado as RB) and Pablo instead of Gravesen.

--------------Casillas--------------
--Salgado--Ramos--Bravo--Carlos---
--------------P.Garcia-------------
--Cicinho------Zidane------Robinho-
---------Baptista-----Raúl-------

Bench:
Lopez
Bravo
Pavon
Diogo
Jurado
Beckham
Cassano

No Cassano :kader:
Baptista :)

a quick update in spanish geo - getafe is a suburb or city close to Madrid right ?

Crap! iT's not on CCTV5 today. Anyone have a link to the match???

Baptista just hit the bar after a great shot:O What a goal that would have been. He is having a very good game so far.

BB - Getafe is a town in the southern metropolitan area of Madrid.

Crap! iT's not on CCTV5 today. Anyone have a link to the match???

Its on Shanghai and Guangdong sports.

Its also on TV Koo if you download that program, its the channel with the most viewers.

Getafe is doing pretty good right know

Its on Shanghai and Guangdong sports.

Its also on TV Koo if you download that program, its the channel with the most viewers.

Can't find those channels on PP live. Man this sucks.

Can't find those channels on PP live. Man this sucks.

Try to look for a channel SXTVS on PPLive, I think they are showing it.
Or here http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.tvkoo.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTVKoo%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG go there and download this software click on download viewplayer, and than open up the channel with the most viewers. I am watching on that one and its going smooth. I hope this helps you.

Baptista almost scored a goal but saved by the defender.

Wow Getafe just messed up a really good chance for themselves.

Baptista :Bow: He's redempting himself match after match. Too bad noone is backing (sp?) him. Zidane should come next to him to help in the game creation.

We are playing pretty crappy as usual right now, Robinho is doing alright but he is coverd by 3 players and noone to help him. He is trying to dribble but too much. Zidane is bad so far. Baptista has been the best so far. Raul has been so-so but not too great. Garcia is doing alright, not so bad after being out for so long but he is slowing down a lot of our plays. The defence has been lost at times. Salgado and Carlos keeps getting beat and the CB's are alright. Casillas has made some very good saves so far.

We really need to change up the style of play, were slow and cant pass it when we get close to their box. Cicinho needs to work on his crossing, we went from Beckham who cant dribble but can cross to Cicinho who can dribble but cant cross LOL:( Ah in time Cicinho should get better at it though. I hope we play better in the second half.

Zidane is past it, I'd take him out for Cassano or Guti immediately

Vamos Madrid

Raul is invicible in the second half :| Unbelieveble! I actually didnt even know he played. Actually the whole team is sh*t now.

thanks Socrates :)

Best RM man on the Pitch scores BAPTISTA - but was it a handball by him or a Foul by Raul before ? Nice Robinho Assist

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL

Julio !!!


:lui:
1-0

Goal for BAPTISTA!!! He is getting so much better. THE BEAST!!

Who came on for Baptista ????

Ramos was lucky to get away with a yellow one for that foul imo

thanks Socrates :)

Best RM man on the Pitch scores BAPTISTA - but was it a handball by him or a Foul by Raul before ? Nice Robinho Assist

I think it was an unintentional handball. Damn Robinho went through like 4-5 players there before he got the assist(Y)

Who came on for Baptista ????

Ramos was lucky to get away with a yellow one for that foul imo

I think it was actually Cicinho off for Becks.

OMG we are getting so lucky, how the hell did Riki miss that...

yeah that change I know, the commentator was just saying and Baptista goes out aswell...

Its Diogo on for Robinho.

F*ck F*ck F*ck!! 1-1!
In your f*cking face Caro! Taking Robinho off when it is just 1-0! We are such a poor team atm. :kader:

yeah that change I know, the commentator was just saying and Baptista goes out aswell...

Hmm nope, he is still on.

Puta Madre !

:kader:

1-1 82'
Tena

Raul :kader: It wasnt the hardest one to score :kader:

another goal conceded by an aireal ball ... it's really time to get defenders which are good in the air too (who are not injuried 99% of the time aka Woody)

Well as for the game, Getafe at least deserves a draw imo.

Omg!! Almost !! Baptista hit the post!!

damn that was close, again Baptista almost scored at the death, hits the post after a Becks freekick.

IMO he's the only one to deserve a positive credit tonight. Casillas seemed unsafe, the whole defence was shaky and the midfield & upfront was relativley poor aswell.


and another draw (does RM set a new intern record for sucsessive draws ?)

1-1 FT.

:kader: :kader: :kader:

It looks like Qualification for us. :kader:

Poor performance again.

Only good ones were Robinho and Baptista. But Caro decided for the 100th time this season to sub Robinho. Baptista did great. I feel sorry for the guy!

Same comment that in the half time, only Baptista :( Another useless point.

If only Caro wouldn't have done that stupid sub (Diogo for Robinho, WTF?)... and had brougth in Jurado. This kid is already one of the best players in 2nd division, with 18 years old and in his first season in that competition. He's owning defenders of every teams, and is dynamic, just what our team needs.

What a piss poor game....again. Baptista MOTM for us by far, damn his last shot that hit the post. TBH we were lucky to get away with a draw, Getafe always looked a bit better than us. I wanted to see Jurado come on for Zidane but no, no matter how ****ty some players are they never get subbed off instead its Robinho who comes off. Caro messing up again.

Caro can F*CK OFF! Really im getting really annoyed by his weird decisions every match. Why Robinho off and Diogo on?!?! Why not Jurado for Zidane?! Why does he bring Cassano so late?! We needed him to start! I think that kid is gonna leave to Juve this summer. Well, if I was him i would leave! He gets f*cked by us. He plays pretty good football when he comes in and still didnt get a starting place over Raul who was again very poor. (i dont know what happened to that guy, he forgot the game i think)

Another draw :rolleyes: .Well Baptista play a great game and Robinho should have not been sub.

it's IMPOSSIBLE to win matches playing "walking-football". :rolleyes:

Raúl touches the ball 2-3 times in the whole match and he gets to play for the full 90 mins! :kader:

if it wasn't for Casillas it would have been 5-0. :nape:

Madrid plays like sh*t right now!! UEFA cup next... :chew:

MOTM La Bestia

If only Caro wouldn't have done that stupid sub (Diogo for Robinho, WTF?)... and had brougth in Jurado. This kid is already one of the best players in 2nd division, with 18 years old and in his first season in that competition. He's owning defenders of every teams, and is dynamic, just what our team needs.Thankyou, it seems as if we've completely forgotten about these Castilla kids. I didn't see the game, but Diogo hasn't impressed at all this whole season...loan him? :(

7 draws in 8 matches :rolleyes:

Last 11 matches :

2 Losses
7 Draws
2 Wins

:nape:

unbelieveable! i finally get to watch a Madrid game live and....1-1. i cant believe it! how many more draws can we possibly get? i wonder what the record is....

Diogo on for Robinho was to go to a double DM formation but Diogo is a Right Back not a DM and Robinho was the only one going upfield. and WHY the 75th minute to bring on Cassano!!!

I belive the diamond or a simple 4-4-2 will work much better now we have more strikers on the payroll. 1 striker doesn't work. you could see Raul immeadiatley covered by 2 defenders everytime we got the ball. Our play to day was verrry predictable.

and Roberto Carlos would not go up the flank and attack. he was rarely there when needed.

WHY a team like Madrid with the players that we have (players that would walk into any starting 11 in the would, club or NT) can't score more than one goal. or at least dominate most of the match.

now im actually looking forward to the cleanout to begin.

yea i just want this season over and get all the old, slow, useless players out and bring in some fresh blood.

yea i just want this season over and get all the old, slow, useless players out and bring in some fresh blood.

yeah men this last scores dont help :kader: since that zidane is going to retire the coach is giving him a lot of play time :jambo: but yeah they need to reform the whole team :boohoo:

unbelieveable! i finally get to watch a Madrid game live and....1-1. i cant believe it! how many more draws can we possibly get? i wonder what the record is....

Diogo on for Robinho was to go to a double DM formation but Diogo is a Right Back not a DM and Robinho was the only one going upfield. and WHY the 75th minute to bring on Cassano!!!

I belive the diamond or a simple 4-4-2 will work much better now we have more strikers on the payroll. 1 striker doesn't work. you could see Raul immeadiatley covered by 2 defenders everytime we got the ball. Our play to day was verrry predictable.

and Roberto Carlos would not go up the flank and attack. he was rarely there when needed.

WHY a team like Madrid with the players that we have (players that would walk into any starting 11 in the would, club or NT) can't score more than one goal. or at least dominate most of the match.

now im actually looking forward to the cleanout to begin.

Who? Cassilas.. maybe. No-one else would.

....draw,draw,draw,draw,draw... :nape: :nape: :nape:
Why? We have good players, good team and we "loose"
easy matches...with Getafe O_o... :chew:

What the hell are you guys smoking?:| We have the best players, we have players that will walk into any starting eleven? :rofl:

Casillas yes he will but everyone else would not, we have some future stars that have an argument but I dont think they would walk into whatever eleven. Are you guys seeing the same team/players as I am?

norek, This was never going to be an easy match and Getafe showed that aswell. :jap:

we have absolutely no top players, despite what people think

put together a lineup of the best of la liga and only one real madrid player will make it: san iker, people are kidding themselves if they think otherwise

the only other player that would be close is ramos

Beckham might, playing as he was before the injury. Hes better than most right siders i know.

without being sarcastic one bit, this summer should be alot of fun for you guys. Youre going to spend out the ass and youre name is going to be tied to every yobo across the continent. Should help sharpen your b.s. radars too

we have absolutely no top players, despite what people think

put together a lineup of the best of la liga and only one real madrid player will make it: san iker, people are kidding themselves if they think otherwise

the only other player that would be close is ramos

The team is full a big names players but somes have done they really need to rebuild this team again.

Beckham might, playing as he was before the injury. Hes better than most right siders i know.


I personally think there are better right wingers, but thats because I like the ones that can dribble and take on a player instead of just kicking a long ball.

I personally think there are better right wingers, but thats because I like the ones that can dribble and take on a player instead of just kicking a long ball.
I think Real Madrid needs one star player!
Hmmm like Ronaldinho, Henry.
When Ronaldinho don't play in Barca this team have
trouble and have problems with win the match...
The same is in Arsenal...

I think Real Madrid needs one star player!
Hmmm like Ronaldinho, Henry.
When Ronaldinho don't play in Barca this team have
trouble and have problems with win the match...
The same is in Arsenal...

No they do not need neseccarily a star player

What they need most is:
hungry (wanting to achieve), dedicated (giving all, involves a lot of effort, running), putting the team ahead of their own glory - players

Boa Morte and Wayne Bridge to Real Madrid, By As and Marca


:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:

i would like to call Lopez Caro a complete idiot for deciding to bench Beckham in the Getafe match. why? well, David scored 5 goals in yesterday's training session! he wasn't injured on sunday. Cicinho says in an interview that he doesnt like to be played out-of position.

CARO :kader:

Caro just s*cks!

And yeaaah i just read about Bridge and Boa Morte. Well, Boa Morte is good but not needed. Bridge just cant play football. He has zero technique, he cant dribble, hasnt got a good cross. He is just bad! So this news sounds like sh*t!!

if we want to win against Malaga on sunday, we got to field this team.

--------------Casillas-----------
--Cicinho--Ramos-Mejía--Carlos--
----------García--Guti----------
--Beckham--Baptista--Robinho--
------------Cassano-----------

RAÙL AND ZIDANE ON THE BENCH!!! :jambo:

according to both Spanish and Italian media, Fernando Martín will announce Carlo Ancelotti as new coach May 14.

i surely hope this is true. and i wouldn't mind if he took Nesta and Kaká with him! :rockman:

Bridge, Ancelotti :S Boa Morte :nape: (I already can see a headline "Madrid Morte and Co")

Datboy I'd like to see this line up to, maybe even with 2 upfront players Cassano and Robinho or Baptista or Soldado (but he probably won't be seen again playing this season in the senior side)

haha

gotta love these stupid rumors, like someone said earlier, we're going to be linked to pretty much every footballer in europe in the summer

I wish we were linked with the CL semis this year. I hope we can seriously rebuild this summer. Certain players don't show up anymore and others can't stop getting hurt. A huge change is needed. Perez stepping down was only the first step. Many more steps are needed this summer.

Boa Morte and Wayne Bridge to Real Madrid, By As and Marca


:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:

I dont see either play so I cant comment on them but it seems like from your comments that they are not good?

Interesting article here, especially on the money issue of how we have a debt but its not a serious one.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=365220&cc=5901

Do you guys think we should have an election?

according to both Spanish and Italian media, Fernando Martín will announce Carlo Ancelotti as new coach May 14.

i surely hope this is true. and i wouldn't mind if he took Nesta and Kaká with him! :rockman:

Kaka will be very welcome to Real Madrid :hump:

I just read that Aguero is having some serious talks with Bayern. Independiente wants 20 milion for him. If he goes to Bayern then im gonna commit suicide! We must get this player!!!!! He is a real AM and on the long term a great replacement for Zidane. This is one of the those players we should 100% get.

we have absolutely no top players, despite what people thinkWhat are u all talking about? Casillas, Cicinho, Ramos, Beckham and Zidane are one of the best in the world in their positions ATM. You must realize the overall team perfomance affects the individual one, and good players tend to seem worse than they really are.

What are u all talking about? Casillas, Cicinho, Ramos, Beckham and Zidane are one of the best in the world in their positions ATM. You must realize the overall team perfomance affects the individual one, and good players tend to seem worse than they really are.
Couldnt say that better! You are absolutly right! Actually almost all our players are one of the best in the world. We just miss that topclass DM!

What are u all talking about? Casillas, Cicinho, Ramos, Beckham and Zidane are one of the best in the world in their positions ATM. You must realize the overall team perfomance affects the individual one, and good players tend to seem worse than they really are.

Casillas yes, Cicinho - not yet, Ramos - not yet, need more experience but I think he will be one of the best, Beckham - nope, and Zidane - if he was younger than yes. Sorry but I have to say that I do disagree:(

according to both Spanish and Italian media, Fernando Martín will announce Carlo Ancelotti as new coach May 14.

i surely hope this is true. and i wouldn't mind if he took Nesta and Kaká with him! :rockman:


Cl final is on May 17th. Does that mean that Milan that Milan considers himself eliminate?

Come on... how is FM going to say anything while Milan still doesn't know if they will have a Cl final 3 days after the anouncement?

Casillas yes, Cicinho - not yet, Ramos - not yet, need more experience but I think he will be one of the best, Beckham - nope, and Zidane - if he was younger than yes. Sorry but I have to say that I do disagree:(
Well i can understand that you say that Ramos needs more experience and so on, but Cicinho is IMO one of the best RB in the world.
He is IMO better then Trabelsi, Belletti, Young, Neville, P.Fereira, Salgado etc. etc.
He has blazing speed, great dribbles, a good cross and works hard.
He is really one of the best, its just that no one is paying attention to a bad playing Real Madrid. Thats what i think about Cicinho.

He is IMO better then Neville.

Neville has been one of the most consistent topclass right backs for club and country in more than a decade - Cicinho has a lot to catch up to do before you can compare him with Neville.

Cicinho's problem is the ****ty Real defence. he cant be the wingback that he is, because that leaves one big hole in the back that noone is capable of covering.

Yea Gary Neville has everything you could ask for from a RB, he's an excellent defender and can get up and down the wing and cross a ball as good as Becks nearly.

Cicinho is great goin forward but his defending and crossing isn't as good as Neville.

Well i can understand that you say that Ramos needs more experience and so on, but Cicinho is IMO one of the best RB in the world.
He is IMO better then Trabelsi, Belletti, Young, Neville, P.Fereira, Salgado etc. etc.
He has blazing speed, great dribbles, a good cross and works hard.
He is really one of the best, its just that no one is paying attention to a bad playing Real Madrid. Thats what i think about Cicinho.

I dont know about that apart from Neville, P. Ferreira always impress me when I see him play. I will admit I dont see many Chelsea games but when I do it seems like he is usually one of their better players. I will agree with you comment about him not getting attention because he is playing with us, I think its like that for our other good players ( Robinho, Ramos, etc ). If they were on any other top team I am sure they would be much more recognized. For instance if Cicinho went to Milan he would be looking much better than he does right now.

Ruud being offered to us - http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/639783.html

Carvalho being offered to us - http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Chelsea/ofreceal/portugues/Ricardo/Carvalho/Real/Madrid/dasftbA00/20060419dasdaiftb_18/Tes/

Now players are being "offered" to us... oh and Ruud (N) Carvalho (Y)

carvalho would be awesome, i wish we could have gotten him two years instead of samuel :nape:

Carvalho would rule! However ruud....em NO!

Just saw that Gerrard and Adriano are linked with Madrid!! :lui:
Sell Raul and replace him with Adriano :) Otherwise switch with at least Cassano.

Gerrard would be a welcome adition. Play him instead of Zidane, Gravesen, Beckham, Guti....any one of them!


About our players being top class.
You really have to wait until the World Cup.
My prediction is that Ronaldo, Casillas, Ramos and Cicinho/Robinho will be the only ones considered such after July 9.

Carvalho would rule! However ruud....em NO!

Just saw that Gerrard and Adriano are linked with Madrid!! :lui:
Sell Raul and replace him with Adriano :) Otherwise switch with at least Cassano.


No thanks to Adriano, we can just promote Soldado instead of wasting money on Adriano. :jap:

Why do AS and Marca always have to mess with our heads like this? Bastards!

Anyway, now they have me dreaming of a Ramos--Carvalho defence.

In a perfect world our backline would look like this....

--Ramos----Woody--Carvalho----R.Carlos--

I wouldnt say its that much of a dream. Fans hate Carvalho 1. because he is a panicky defender in England who both goes too hard into challenges, conceeding needless freekicks, and 2. because he displaces gallas from the CB in Mourinho's steadfast approach.

I personally happen to like the guy because he is most obviously world class and with Gallas able to switch out left, putting out a backline of 3 of the 10 or 12 best defenders in the world is pretty nice. However, it really defeats the purpose when you have to break up an excellent partnership in order to accomodate what is, undeniably, the least able of the three. But I recall games when weve been at a low ebb in form and Riccy has looked like the only one who cares, and triest to get the team up for it. The CL game at anfield last year saw him play like a man possessed.

If you offer 15-18 million P, and Jose isnt too big of a man to sell, then I think you will get him. If you throw in additional 5.5, we can send you Del Horno too.

Carvalho would rule! However ruud....em NO!

Just saw that Gerrard and Adriano are linked with Madrid!! :lui:
Sell Raul and replace him with Adriano :) Otherwise switch with at least Cassano.

Gerrard would be a welcome adition. Play him instead of Zidane, Gravesen, Beckham, Guti....any one of them!

About our players being top class.
You really have to wait until the World Cup.
My prediction is that Ronaldo, Casillas, Ramos and Cicinho/Robinho will be the only ones considered such after July 9.
Your bias and self denial knows no bounds, dude. Buy Gerrard, sell the captain, buy another moody brazilian, and perhaps worst of all, keep Ronaldo. That will definately fix everything thats rotten at your team. Im a bit shocked you arent all gung ho for Ruud too.

And I told you already, gerrard is a selfish idiot, footballing ability aside. Him moving to Madrid would just be chasing the paycheck, and players that do that sort of thing are excatly what you dont need at the club. Get back to basics, for god's sake

and i would not be too happy at the prospect of Ancelotti, which seems like crap anyway. He seems unimaginative and I think you could do alot better than him, especially in a flair league like Spain has.

I wouldnt say its that much of a dream. Fans hate Carvalho 1. because he is a panicky defender in England who both goes too hard into challenges, conceeding needless freekicks, and 2. because he displaces gallas from the CB in Mourinho's steadfast approach.

I personally happen to like the guy because he is most obviously world class and with Gallas able to switch out left, putting out a backline of 3 of the 10 or 12 best defenders in the world is pretty nice. However, it really defeats the purpose when you have to break up an excellent partnership in order to accomodate what is, undeniably, the least able of the three. But I recall games when weve been at a low ebb in form and Riccy has looked like the only one who cares, and triest to get the team up for it. The CL game at anfield last year saw him play like a man possessed.

If you offer 15-18 million P, and Jose isnt too big of a man to sell, then I think you will get him. If you throw in additional 5.5, we can send you Del Horno too.


Your bias and self denial knows no bounds, dude. Buy Gerrard, sell the captain, buy another moody brazilian, and perhaps worst of all, keep Ronaldo. That will definately fix everything thats rotten at your team. Im a bit shocked you arent all gung ho for Ruud too.

And I told you already, gerrard is a selfish idiot, footballing ability aside. Him moving to Madrid would just be chasing the paycheck, and players that do that sort of thing are excatly what you dont need at the club. Get back to basics, for god's sake

and i would not be too happy at the prospect of Ancelotti, which seems like crap anyway. He seems unimaginative and I think you could do alot better than him, especially in a flair league like Spain has.

Good post there TBB, I have to agree with just about everything you said there. How much do you think Gallas is worth if Carvalho is 15-18 P. Is Del Horno doing that bad for you guys?

--Ramos----Woody--Carvalho----R.Carlos--I wouldn't mind Cicinho-Ramos-Carvalho-R.Carlos. Don't get me wrong, I rate Woody even over Carvalho, but he can't stand more than 3 weeks healthy.

I sincerily never saw Carvalho put on any decisive blunders. Everytime i saw him, he made very regular performances. It´s obvious that in only his second year of being in the Chelsea team, he isn´t going to get a better chemistry with Terry, specially when Gallas and Terry have been playing togheter for many seasons. About Chelsea fans prefering a Terry/Gallas duo, it´s pretty obvious and understandable. Gallas has always been one of the fans favourite. Anyways i do believe that Mourinho knew that Terry and Gallas are the best pairing, presently. He used Gallas as right/left back to get a better defensive consistency by accomodating three world class defenders.
Selling Carvalho to Real Madrid would prolly be the best solution. A Carvalho/Ramos duo sounds very appealing. They have potencial to form one of the best duos in Spain.
Chelsea could have their beloved Terry/Gallas defense and everyone would be happy. This is prolly good news for Chelsea, if they are willing to sell Carvalho, Gallas must be very close to renewing his contract. I don´t think Mourinho would end up risking losing two important team players.
About Boa Morte, he is good, but he isn´t Real Madrid material in my opinion. Although he was extremely young and in his first experience abroad, he was a flop in Arsenal and he doesn´t convince anyone when he performs in the Portuguese Nt. I don´t think he can cut it in big teams. Madrid should have other priorities like getting a world class DM (not Gravesen´s or Pablo Garcia´s).

I wouldn't mind Cicinho-Ramos-Carvalho-R.Carlos. Don't get me wrong, I rate Woody even over Carvalho, but he can't stand more than 3 weeks healthy.

Or even better Cicinho-Ramos-Carvalho-Cole/Pasqule/whoever is the new LB :brow:

Vinnie Jones good stuff there on Boa Morte.

ok so from what people are saying we want a world class CB, a world class DM, a world class striker and some back ups for LB, & DM...

Yet NO 'Galacticos', no super stars, no Big name players.

so far we have (already) been linked to: (not including coaches)
Carvalho (seems like a good buy)
Abidal (Did we get him already?)
Pasqaul (Who is he?)
A.Cole (can't see it happening IMO)
Gerrard (can he adapt to Spanish football)
Diarra (A MUST BUY, or Mascherano)
Adriano (hmmmm.... if he was cheap then i'd say yes)
Van Nistelrooy (If we need a replacement for Ronaldo he is my choice)**
Wayne Bridge (Who?)
Boa Morte (huh? what?)
Zlatan Ibrahimovich (isn't moving from Juve)
KaKa (Milan whould be stupid to sell him but if Ancelotti brings him with..)
Jaoquin (Wants to move but Madrid dont seem to be chasing)
Chivu (Like woody, good but always injured)
Gallas (The defensive rock we need.)
Rooney (Could be a good but if somone can keep his temper down)
Ballack (Looks like Chelsea have got him so no-one else can. WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PLAY HIM!!!)
** from this list

Yet people have said No to these players but haven't offered any alternatives who aren't big names. (maybe Abidal is the exception)
My choices would be : Abidal, Diarra, Van Nistelrooy, Jaoquin, Gallas (if not then Carvalho) Heck if they all chep enough then why not get them!!!

------------San Iker------------- (D.Lo)
-Cichinho-Ramos-Gallas-Abidal---- (Woody, Mejia, Bravo, R.C, Diogo)
-------------Diarra-------------- (P.Garcia)
-Becks-Baptista-Cassano-Jaoquin- (Robinho, Guti)
------Cassano--Ruud Van-------- (Raul, Solado)

tell me what u think.

------------San Iker------------- (D.Lo)
-Cichinho-Ramos-Gallas-Abidal---- (Woody, Mejia, Bravo, R.C, Diogo)
-------------Diarra-------------- (P.Garcia)
-Becks-Baptista-Cassano-Jaoquin- (Robinho, Guti)
------Cassano--Ruud Van-------- (Raul, Solado)

tell me what u think.

Our new gameplan is to play with 12 players?

Joaquin on the left? Robinho as a sub? Becks starting? Ruud?

Papers said that Abidal would coast 18 M Euros...no thanks, thats a bit too much. Woody cant be a reliable backup, Bravo, RC, and P. Garcia (maybe) should be gone.

I wouldnt say its that much of a dream. Fans hate Carvalho 1. because he is a panicky defender in England who both goes too hard into challenges, conceeding needless freekicks, and 2. because he displaces gallas from the CB in Mourinho's steadfast approach.

I personally happen to like the guy because he is most obviously world class and with Gallas able to switch out left, putting out a backline of 3 of the 10 or 12 best defenders in the world is pretty nice. However, it really defeats the purpose when you have to break up an excellent partnership in order to accomodate what is, undeniably, the least able of the three. But I recall games when weve been at a low ebb in form and Riccy has looked like the only one who cares, and triest to get the team up for it. The CL game at anfield last year saw him play like a man possessed.

If you offer 15-18 million P, and Jose isnt too big of a man to sell, then I think you will get him. If you throw in additional 5.5, we can send you Del Horno too.


Your bias and self denial knows no bounds, dude. Buy Gerrard, sell the captain, buy another moody brazilian, and perhaps worst of all, keep Ronaldo. That will definately fix everything thats rotten at your team. Im a bit shocked you arent all gung ho for Ruud too.

And I told you already, gerrard is a selfish idiot, footballing ability aside. Him moving to Madrid would just be chasing the paycheck, and players that do that sort of thing are excatly what you dont need at the club. Get back to basics, for god's sake

and i would not be too happy at the prospect of Ancelotti, which seems like crap anyway. He seems unimaginative and I think you could do alot better than him, especially in a flair league like Spain has.


great post

i agree 100% about gerrard, greedy ****, no thanks, go **** off to juventus, capello seems to like him

carvahlo and del horno would be a dream double signing, we'd still need two good young defensive midfielders

and hell no to adriano, he's moody, has shown a poor work ethic and his scoring has been awful this year.

I think we definitely need to get rid of ronaldo, roberto carlos, becks, zidane, salgado and helguera. Raul isnt going anywhere, despite the rumors. I think there is a rift between him and Ronaldo and his play will pick up when Ronnie is gone.

I'd love to get Joaquin, a good young spanish winger to replace becks.

I'm also all for giving our younger guys some senior time next year, Portillo, Soldado, De La Red, Javi Garcia, Mejia, Juanfran, Balboa, Jurado, etc. This will keep costs down and will promote more cohesion since these guys have played together at the lower levels.

Just 1 Question how the hell do you want to buy so many players ?

most players that are at the club can't be sold for a huge sum of money because either they are old or not really class.

Non the less here is MY list/thoughs of players (funding question for new sinings excluded)


Keep
Casillas (great keeper, alltough atm he's got some probs)
Ramos (needs expirienced CB parter, great player for his age)
Baptista (since he plays in the current position class, most likable Brazilan (hard teamworker)
Robinho (still young, already a good player for his age, needs to work on final pass)
Cicinho (good speed, bad positioning and defending, still time & versatility is on his side)
R.Bravo (you all may hate him, went from a poor player to a decent back up, quick, good in the air)
Cassano (if he only would play regularly - so far showed good attidue, not what I expected when he got signed, good player)
Becks (Injuryprone but still one of the few players who runs for the team (watercarrier), great deadball, passing skills, too bad the strikers are not good at putting his crosses in)
Mejia (easily overlapped Pavon and Helguera, no starter but a decent backup)
Solado (looked dangerous whenever he played, why isn't he given some chances?!)

Getting Rid
Salgado (too old, too slow, too many fouls, too many booking, always moaning)
Zidane (injury prone and endurance probs, might play 1 out of 4 games)
Helguera (going downhill from class to poor rapidly)
Raul (not the player he was/too much interference for a healthy club spirit, too much resting on his reputation)
Ronaldo (despite his recent form, too selfcentered, too moody and injuryprone)
P. Garcia (too many fouls and bookings)
Woodgate (class when fit but too injuryprone)
Diogo (does not convince me as DM/RB, too many fouls and bookings)
Pavon (poor defender)

Undecided
R.Carlos (still a class CB, but age is catching up)
Guti (sometimes top (great passing), but mostly flop, always moaning to the ref (I hate that)
Gravesen (technically good, Positionwise aswell, but needs a CM that covers his back... he's a decent CM/AM and no DM)


IMO what Madrids needs are

Hungry players that want to achieve something (rather than resting on laureels)& that work for the team. Not necessarily big names

Gravesen (technically good, Positionwise aswell, but needs a CM that covers his back... he's a decent CM/AM and no DM)



Technically good?! :P Well he is technically the worst player of the team i think. I agree with the rest.

http://www.eurosport.com/football/la-liga/2005-2006/sport_sto870255.shtml

Getafe wants Soldado! :| If we let him go then im going to kill Martin myself. :kader:

Just 1 Question how the hell do you want to buy so many players ?

Getting Rid
Salgado (too old, too slow, too many fouls, too many booking, always moaning)
Zidane (injury prone and endurance probs, might play 1 out of 4 games)
Helguera (going downhill from class to poor rapidly)
Raul (not the player he was/too much interference for a healthy club spirit, too much resting on his reputation)
Ronaldo (despite his recent form, too selfcentered, too moody and injuryprone)
P. Garcia (too many fouls and bookings)
Woodgate (class when fit but too injuryprone)
Diogo (does not convince me as DM/RB, too many fouls and bookings)
Pavon (poor defender)

Undecided
R.Carlos (still a class CB, but age is catching up)
Guti (sometimes top (great passing), but mostly flop, always moaning to the ref (I hate that)
Gravesen (technically good, Positionwise aswell, but needs a CM that covers his back... he's a decent CM/AM and no DM)



Are you crazy man, first you say we can't buy that many, and you want to sell 9 players, plus 2 of the 3 you are undecided about will proably be sold as well... :nape:

http://www.eurosport.com/football/la-liga/2005-2006/sport_sto870255.shtml

Getafe wants Soldado! :| If we let him go then im going to kill Martin myself. :kader:

:| :| This better not happen.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/640221.html

Chivu could be our first signing...

ok, this is what i would do

BUY:

Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United)
Mahamadou Diarrá (O. Lyon)
Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
Raúl Garcia (Osasuna)
Eric Abidal (O. Lyon)
Frank Riberý (O. Marseille)

as for a new striker. promote Roberto Soldado to the 1st team or call back Portillo.

SELL/GET RID OFF

Ivan Helguera
Michel Salgado
Roberto Carlos
Thomas Gravesen
Ronaldo
Zinedine Zidane
Jonathan Woodgate

so that is buy 6 players and get rid off 7 players.

this would be my lineup for 2006-2007 season. 4-4-2

--------------Casillas---------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Carvalho--Abidal--
---------------Diarrá----------------
--Beckham-----Riberý-----C.Ronaldo--
--------Soldado------Robinho--------

Robinho needs to learn the forward role. :)

not too bad, eh? ;)

ok, this is what i would do

BUY:

Cristiano Ronaldo (Manchester United)
Mahamadou Diarrá (O. Lyon)
Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea)
Raúl Garcia (Osasuna)
Eric Abidal (O. Lyon)
Frank Riberý (O. Marseille)

as for a new striker. promote Roberto Soldado to the 1st team or call back Portillo.

SELL/GET RID OFF

Ivan Helguera
Michel Salgado
Roberto Carlos
Thomas Gravesen
Ronaldo
Zinedine Zidane
Jonathan Woodgate

so that is buy 6 players and get rid off 7 players.

this would be my lineup for 2006-2007 season. 4-4-2

--------------Casillas---------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Carvalho--Abidal--
---------------Diarrá----------------
--Beckham-----Riberý-----C.Ronaldo--
--------Soldado------Robinho--------

Robinho needs to learn the forward role. :)

not too bad, eh? ;)
Robinho can play very good in a 4-4-2 formation at that position. The thing he cant play is alone striker. But i would never bench Baptista ;) He showed us he is one of the best!! :rockman:

i love diarra, but he's gonna cost a fortune. the president of lyon is smart, he sees the teams that are interested in him, us and man united, and sets a high price for him, knowing a team will pay it. I'd try like hell to get mascherano first, that guy is world class, plus he is still young.

I forgot to put gravesen and woody on my 'to sell' list, I love both guys, but we need to part ways with them. Gravy has been great, but he is ultimately playinig out of position and not the answer and DM. Woody is class, but alas, the poor guy's health makes him not worth keeping.

As for the amount of players I want to buy/sell, it is a lot, but I expect big changes from this team, we need to get younger, hungrier players. This team lacks edge, no one should be promised a spot next year, I want the players to fight for playing time.

edit: has anyone heard about a debt we have??? I've heard rumors we have run up a debt...maybe crus or face can shed some light on it since they are in Spain right now

Datboy I think C. Ronaldo and Diarra would coast too much for us to buy any other player:( I thought Ribery was a winger? I might be more open to playing someone other than Becks aswell.


edit: has anyone heard about a debt we have??? I've heard rumors we have run up a debt...maybe crus or face can shed some light on it since they are in Spain right now

I posted a link to it earlier http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=365220&cc=5901

We have a net debt of £50-55million but the club generates some £45million a year so its more than manageable.

Soc, Ribery is a winger. but he can play in central midfield too. :)

@ MegaMontana, those debt rumours are all fake, spread by Fernando Martin rivals for thepresidency :chew:

@JustHammy, I agree I wouldn't bench Baptista in a near future, he's being one of the few positive aspects in the end of the season.

It's a bit soon yet but since all of u are giving 06/07 lineups, here's mine :):

------------------Iker----------------
-Cicinho--Ramos--Chivu/Carvalho---LB-
-----------------Diarra---------------
-Becks----Baptista-----CM---Robinho-
----------------Cassano--------------

I'm not sure about the LB position... Can't see any class LB in the world ATM. Perhaps Filipe Luis from Castilla could be a good option. He's great but may need more experience.

About the CM position, he must be a 4x4 midfielder, I mean a Gerrard, Ballack, Lampard style... A player with game vision but also good defensive disposition and, the most important, great positioning. That way we would give cohesion to our lines. Or maybe Baptista could cover this role, and we can promote Jurado ( :Bow: )

And.. I still believe in Cassano... Give him time and he will be the important player he was at Roma or italian NT.

@ MegaMontana, those debt rumours are all fake, spread by Fernando Martin rivals for thepresidency :chew:

@JustHammy, I agree I wouldn't bench Baptista in a near future, he's being one of the few positive aspects in the end of the season.

It's a bit soon yet but since all of u are giving 06/07 lineups, here's mine :):

------------------Iker----------------
-Cicinho--Ramos--Chivu/Carvalho---LB-
-----------------Diarra---------------
-Becks----Baptista-----CM---Robinho-
----------------Cassano--------------

I'm not sure about the LB position... Can't see any class LB in the world ATM. Perhaps Filipe Luis from Castilla could be a good option. He's great but may need more experience.

About the CM position, he must be a 4x4 midfielder, I mean a Gerrard, Ballack, Lampard style... A player with game vision but also good defensive disposition and, the most important, great positioning. That way we would give cohesion to our lines. Or maybe Baptista could cover this role, and we can promote Jurado (:Bow:)

And.. I still believe in Cassano... Give him time and he will be the important player he was at Roma or italian NT.

Well than, good to know its fake.

CM - Cesc, Gago, R. Garcia, etc

As for Cassano, I dont see him as being a striker, he is more like an AMC. I would perfer Soldado be the striker.

i dont want Van Nistelrooy.

i agree 100% about gerrard, greedy ****

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

about gerrard, greedy ****, no thanks

Good because you guys never stood half a chance of getting him anyways.

http://www.eurosport.com/football/la-liga/2005-2006/sport_sto870255.shtml
Getafe wants Soldado! :| If we let him go then im going to kill Martin myself. :kader:
I'll join in.

Are you crazy man, first you say we can't buy that many, and you want to sell 9 players, plus 2 of the 3 you are undecided about will proably be sold as well... :nape:

what I posted was

How are you gonna finance so many new sinings ? - This is thought to be a question generllay to everybody.

Then I posted my list of Players and Thoughts with the Info in the Brackets (funding question for new sinings excluded) which basically puts the above question out of hand for the moment at least.

Well Ancelotti dream for his duo strikers in Real Madrid would be Henry with Ronaldo. A duo like that would be deadly. :hump:

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Ancelotti/quiere/reunir/Henry/Ronaldo/dasftbA00/20060420dasdaiftb_16/Tes/

Just 1 Question how the hell do you want to buy so many players ?

:| you have the balls to ask that question when he wants to buy Joaquin, but fancifully youre going to sell like 10 players, including good role players like Diogo, Garcia, Pavon and your captain

I think we definitely need to get rid of ronaldo, roberto carlos, becks, zidane, salgado and helguera. Raul isnt going anywhere, despite the rumors. I think there is a rift between him and Ronaldo and his play will pick up when Ronnie is gone.

I'd love to get Joaquin, a good young spanish winger to replace becks.

I'm also all for giving our younger guys some senior time next year, Portillo, Soldado, De La Red, Javi Garcia, Mejia, Juanfran, Balboa, Jurado, etc. This will keep costs down and will promote more cohesion since these guys have played together at the lower levels.
Youre right on with that. Very sensible, and the fact that you are all eager to promote from within is a good sign, becuase surely no passion or pride for the club is an issue youre now facing

For the holding role, if you cant get Diarra, go for Mascherano
For the outside, if you can get Joaquin now, cheap, do it
for the middle, if you can blow Arsenal away with a big offer for Fabregas, and get him out of there while theyre still in a dubious financial situation thanks to their stadium, do it. If not, try for Alonso who, in my opinion, would be better than Xavi if you got him
For the backline I think you will get Carvalho. Chivu will become Woodgate II, and in my opinion, his future lies in Milan where they can somehow keep those players fit.
To replace Ronaldo, if you can get Reyes, I would do it simply because of his versatility

That would cost alot, but obviously, you wouldnt land all of those and you would presumably be getting something back for guys like Ronaldo, Salgado, Carlos (obviously), or even Helguera. Im willing to bet a midtable English side like Newcastle or West Ham would pay decent money for Salgado.


How are you gonna finance so many new sinings ? - This is thought to be a question generllay to everybody.

A year ago your clubs summer transfer fees were set at 150 some million euros, if memory serves, and they spent about half that. These rumors of a debt have to be B.S.

Well Ancelotti dream for his duo strikers in Real Madrid would be Henry with Ronaldo. A duo like that would be deadly. :hump:

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Ancelotti/quiere/reunir/Henry/Ronaldo/dasftbA00/20060420dasdaiftb_16/Tes/
Well if we get Diarra/Mascherano first i would be happy. Signing Henry sounds like a little risk, because i think we v had our lesson with those 'Galacticos'. But hey, i cant deny that i would jump out of my seat if we get Henry to play with Ronaldo. They r both phenomenal. Though, i would sign some younger players first.

Some of those young players: ;)
R.Garcia, Mascherano, Diarra, Ribery, Gago, Aguero (!), De Rossi etc. etc.

EDIT: I still dont understand why AS still says Ancellotti is our new coach for next year. Did i miss something?! Im pretty sure i followed this coach thing very good but you never know. So please tell me...are they just talking sh*t?!

EDIT 2: Zidane picked up a injury at the training and might be out for the match of sunday.

If it is true that Leite Ribeiro Adriano wants out of Inter which I can understand why he would be, then we should definitely go after him.

Antonio Cassano has not fit in with us, and I remember Inter Milan wanting him earlier this year, why not send Cassano and some money to Inter in return for Adriano.

He is in my opinion the most talented striker on earth.

:ewan:

Now as to the players I think we should get rid of...

Zidane - Past it.
Beckham - Never quite fit Real Madrid
Gravesen - Not the player we need him to be
Salgado - Don't need him anymore with Cicinho and Diogo
Helguera - Past it.
*Carlos - Only if we can get a replacement for him
*Ronaldo - Only if we can get a replacement for him
*Cassano - Only if we can get Adriano for him

If it is true that Leite Ribeiro Adriano wants out of Inter which I can understand why he would be, then we should definitely go after him.

Antonio Cassano has not fit in with us, and I remember Inter Milan wanting him earlier this year, why not send Cassano and some money to Inter in return for Adriano.

He is in my opinion the most talented striker on earth.

:ewan:
gonna have to disagree there, he's been very mediocre this year, even with the talent around him, he has only scored 13 goals, meanwhile luca toni has 28 (!!!) in serie a

i'd rather have david villa over adriano right now

benbeckham: for the guys i want, we'd have tons of money from selling guys, mainly becks and ronaldo. I'm not looking to buy any 'galacticos' or pay any release clauses.

Well if we get Diarra/Mascherano first i would be happy. Signing Henry sounds like a little risk, because i think we v had our lesson with those 'Galacticos'. But hey, i cant deny that i would jump out of my seat if we get Henry to play with Ronaldo. They r both phenomenal. Though, i would sign some younger players first.

Some of those young players: ;)
R.Garcia, Mascherano, Diarra, Ribery, Gago, Aguero (!), De Rossi etc. etc.

EDIT: I still dont understand why AS still says Ancellotti is our new coach for next year. Did i miss something?! Im pretty sure i followed this coach thing very good but you never know. So please tell me...are they just talking sh*t?!

EDIT 2: Zidane picked up a injury at the training and might be out for the match of sunday.

about ancellotti, it may be true, it may not, i doubt it, at least this early anyway. Remember, Vieira, Mascherano, Carvalho were all Real Madrid players officially, according to the press :|

Reports in Spain claim that Real Madrid have settled on Milan's Carlo Ancelotti as their next coach.

Real are looking to appoint a new boss in the summer to replace Juan Ramon Lopez Caro, who has been in interim charge since Wanderley Luxemburgo's exit midway through the season.

The Spanish titans have drawn up a list of seven names who could become the new boss, but it appears Ancelotti is the favourite.

A sports programme on Cadena Ser Radio trumpeted that Real had reached a deal to bring Ancelotti to Madrid at the end of the season.

The report suggested the move was in place and would be announced once Milan's involvement in the UEFA Champions League is at an end, which could be next week as they trail Barcelona 1-0 after the semi-final first leg.

There is also a claim that Real would not pay Milan any compensation for hiring Ancelotti, who has previously intimated a desire to coach Los Galacticos.

The programme also said that Ancelotti had made Arsenal captain Thierry Henry his prime transfer target.

Henry is still mulling over his long-term future with the Champions League semi-finalists and has been linked to Real and arch-rivals Barcelona.

source: skysports.com

i think Cadena Ser is a very reliable source. remember they were the ones who announced Beckham's transfer before it was official. :)

I think we need 4 new players tops. 1 DF, 1 DM, 1 RMF, and 1 CF. Carvalho, Diarra, Joaquim, and Henry would be my choices.

We need to patch up problem areas, not get rid of half our team. Getting rid of half our team would completely destroy all of our team chenistry. Well, what little we have as it is....

Hahaha, if Henry goes anywhere it's Barca.

I think that this will be a very important transfer period for Real Madrid. The timing for a profund roster cleansing is perfect. Time to bring a new identity to the club and get rid of the "galaticos" label once and for all. The right policy is betting on the "cantera", injecting some spanish blood in the team and buying 3 or 4 proven players in order to give defensive stability to the team. The team has no balance. Every year you get a couple of big names for the offensive sector, who is already star studded. It´s just more of the same and it has no real impact. You need players with a different profile. Players without big egos, who are motivated and hungry for success. The key for overcoming this bad phase is going back to the roots. More spanish player, new identity, a team who the supporters feel identified with. Not changing the coach every year will contribute to overcoming this phase too.

I think we need 4 new players tops. 1 DF, 1 DM, 1 RMF, and 1 CF. Carvalho, Diarra, Joaquim, and Henry would be my choices.

We need to patch up problem areas, not get rid of half our team. Getting rid of half our team would completely destroy all of our team chenistry. Well, what little we have as it is....
No thanks to Henry, I think we shoud just promote Soldado. We would also need a LB and CM. We might also need two DF because we only have Mejia as our good backup player.

We do need to get rid of some of the players because they dont desereve to be here and it would help bring in some money that we could spend. I would be in for brining in new players, promoting our youth players, and kicking out the ones that need to go. Team chemistry...haha I doubt anyone would even notice it if we did destroy the team chemistry...yes its that bad.

I think that this will be a very important transfer period for Real Madrid. The timing for a profund roster cleansing is perfect. Time to bring a new identity to the club and get rid of the "galaticos" label once and for all. The right policy is betting on the "cantera", injecting some spanish blood in the team and buying 3 or 4 proven players in order to give defensive stability to the team. The team has no balance. Every year you get a couple of big names for the offensive sector, who is already star studded. It´s just more of the same and it has no real impact. You need players with a different profile. Players without big egos, who are motivated and hungry for success. The key for overcoming this bad phase is going back to the roots. More spanish player, new identity, a team who the supporters feel identified with. Not changing the coach every year will contribute to overcoming this phase too.

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I think we need 4 new players tops. 1 DF, 1 DM, 1 RMF, and 1 CF. Carvalho, Diarra, Joaquim, and Henry would be my choices.

We need to patch up problem areas, not get rid of half our team. Getting rid of half our team would completely destroy all of our team chenistry. Well, what little we have as it is....

First off, it's Joaquin.
Also before a forward, I think we need to replace Roberto Carlos at left-back.

I think that this will be a very important transfer period for Real Madrid. The timing for a profund roster cleansing is perfect. Time to bring a new identity to the club and get rid of the "galaticos" label once and for all. The right policy is betting on the "cantera", injecting some spanish blood in the team and buying 3 or 4 proven players in order to give defensive stability to the team. The team has no balance. Every year you get a couple of big names for the offensive sector, who is already star studded. It´s just more of the same and it has no real impact. You need players with a different profile. Players without big egos, who are motivated and hungry for success. The key for overcoming this bad phase is going back to the roots. More spanish player, new identity, a team who the supporters feel identified with. Not changing the coach every year will contribute to overcoming this phase too.


exactly.

No thanks to Henry, we would also need a LB and CM. We might also need two DF because we only have Mejia as our good backup player.

I would rather try to get more of an attacking mid ala Riquelme if we could to be Zidane's successor

We do need to get rid of some of the players because they dont desereve to be here and it would help bring in some money that we could spend. I would be in for brining in new players, promoting our youth players, and kicking out the ones that need to go. Team chemistry...haha I doubt anyone would even notice it if we did destroy the team chemistry...yes its that bad.

I agree, now is the time(if there ever was) to get rid of the excess. I see us getting rid of six players.

yea i dont want to be like arsenal and have no players from the home nation in the starting 11 :|

promoting youth team players and buying joaquin would solve that problem :jap:

If only we would have gotten Xabi Alonso like we were supposed to... :nape:

I would rather try to get more of an attacking mid ala Riquelme if we could to be Zidane's successor.

I dont really think we need him, If Diarra is the DM than the two in front of him can be Baptista plus the other CM we get. I think that will work fine with Robinho and whoever is the right winger also attacking and Soldado in front of them....I should stop here, getting too excited.

Maybe, none the less, this is my dream lineup

-----------------Casillas-----------------
--------------Ramos-Carvaho--------------
----Cicinho--------------------Abidal/Del Horno-----
-------Baptista/Guti----Diarra---------------
--Joaquin---------Riquelme------------Robinho--
------------------Adriano------------------

An attacking 4-5-1, I can always dream :fool:

My dream - 4-3-3 is the way to go
-----------------Casillas-----------------
---Cicinho---Ramos-Carvalho/Gallas-----LB---
-------------------Diarra--------------------
----------Baptista------Cesc/Garcia--------
--Joaquin-------------------------Robinho--
------------------Soldado------------------

With the backups being quite a bit of players from Castilla that can challange for a first team spot. :jambo:

Time to wake up from my dream:(

------------------Casillas-----------------

---Cicinho----Ramos----Carvalho------A.Cole---

-------------Diarra----Mascherano--------------------

--Beckham--------Baptista------------Robinho--

------------------Adriano------------------

Portuguese press (www.ojogo.pt) says that Ricardo Quaresma is a target. would be interesting if he ended uo turning into your version of Etoo

Interesting thread here - http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342141

face or crus got anything to add about the meeting on the 26 or the conspiracy theory involving Perez?

One player who could be heading through the United exit door is striker Ruud van Nistelrooy after reports suggested the Dutchman has a clause in his contract will allow him to move to Real Madrid.

It is thought the former PSV Eindhoven goalscorer could exercise the reported clause for a fee of £17.5 million.

now with this being the case, and Adriano also at the exit door at Inter, who do you guys think would be the better pick? And importantly, who would the Real management go for?


here's my two cents on the matter (and believe or not I'm trying to look at things from a neutral perspective):

Ruud is the finished article; he's a quality finisher, and keeps a cool head on the pitch ... now I can see how Adriano seems the perfect replacement for Ronaldo -- for the various parallels that run between the two -- but I just think that the last thing Real Madrid needs is another primadonna ...

Portuguese press (www.ojogo.pt) says that Ricardo Quaresma is a target. would be interesting if he ended uo turning into your version of Etoo
Quaresma is sooo damn good!!! He really is great!! He would be a great replacement for Becks. Barca made a big mistake by letting him go and we should strike back.

oh I forgot to address this point earlier ...

Portuguese press (www.ojogo.pt) says that Ricardo Quaresma is a target. would be interesting if he ended uo turning into your version of Etoo

I really hope that doesn't happen ... Quaresma is a real favourite of mine; letting him go is something I'm not going to pardon Rijkaard and co. for ... I hope he ends up at a great team, but not Real ... it'll be hard to take ...

I say we start the rebuilding process a bit closer to home....like from Castilla par example. That said, i wouldn't mind Quaresma, he's improved a bit since leaving Barca

Did anyone read the link I posted earlier...damn **** is really ****ed up at the top. Bronzetti, Juan Figger, Ramón Martínez, and etc :kader:

Did anyone read the link I posted earlier...damn **** is really ****ed up at the top. Bronzetti, Juan Figger, Ramón Martínez, and etc

Yeah, wow. that is really f***** up. the 26th seems to be D-Day for the club. !

Now I do expect some dramatic changes in wednesday meeting. Too many rumours during the week to not believing so. However, I hope there'll be no elections called up, cause this could mess up the current squad even more. Each candidate would bring in a bunch of his own useless galacticos as electoral promises, instead of making a quiet study of the real needs of the squad. That's what always happens in those cases.

BTW, could anyone help me to find some quality pics of Jose Manuel Jurado? :) I'm thinking of requesting a new avatar of this football genius.

Now I do expect some dramatic changes in wednesday meeting. Too many rumours during the week to not believing so. However, I hope there'll be no elections called up, cause this could mess up the current squad even more. Each candidate would bring in a bunch of his own useless galacticos as electoral promises, instead of making a quiet study of the real needs of the squad. That's what always happens in those cases.

BTW, could anyone help me to find some quality pics of Jose Manuel Jurado? :) I'm thinking of requesting a new avatar of this football genius.
Yea..**** is going down on the 26th.

Well Martin wants to sign a high profile player before the metting to show the board that he is worthy of his position, I heard he wants to offer Henry a 4 year deal at 12 M a year:kader: and he wants an ansrew before Wednesday. This is a stupid move as we should not be interested in Henry and just imagine how the other players that "only" get 6 M a year will react to this.

yeah, we kinda worked ourselves into a corner here. We are the richest club in the world but neeeeed to buy new players.

we are going have to play a high price on anyone we decide to sign this summer. No-one is coming cheaply.

the 'Henry's-Answer' thing is totaly the wrong move. He already has UCL commitments to think about. I do however think that he is a posibility to play for Madrid next season.

Hopefully everything gets sorted on the 26th. :nape:

blueballa-
sorry that I want to watch ENTERTAINING football :rolleyes:

yeah, we kinda worked ourselves into a corner here. We are the richest club in the world but neeeeed to buy new players.

we are going have to play a high price on anyone we decide to sign this summer. No-one is coming cheaply.

the 'Henry's-Answer' thing is totaly the wrong move. He already has UCL commitments to think about. I do however think that he is a posibility to play for Madrid next season.

Hopefully everything gets sorted on the 26th. :nape:

No not really, we just need to be smart and not spend all of our money on 1-2 players. Like say Lyon request 50 M for Diarra we can just say **** that and look for the next best DM/ one that is cheaper yet not so crappier than Diarra.

Its going to take more than just the 26th to sort thigns out.

Yea..**** is going down on the 26th.

Well Martin wants to sign a high profile player before the metting to show the board that he is worthy of his position, I heard he wants to offer Henry a 4 year deal at 12 M a year:kader: and he wants an ansrew before Wednesday. This is a stupid move as we should not be interested in Henry and just imagine how the other players that "only" get 6 M a year will react to this.

Well will see what happen the 26th and Zidane will have a press conference that day too.

This afternoon's match expected lineup:

----------------Iker---------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Mejia--R.Carlos-
---------------Guti---------------
-Becks---Baptista--Zizou---Robinho-
---------------Raul----------------

Let's hope an acceptable football match by Madrid :chew:

What a miss by Cassano...

Soldado on the Bench at least :rockman:

looks like a 4-4-2 to from what I've seen.

-----------Casillas-----------
Cicinho-Ramos-Mejia-R.Carlos
Becks-Baptista--Guti-Robinho
-------Cassano--Raul--------

Malaga lead thanks to a nice goal after a PASSIVE RM Defence, still Madrid has some chances and Arnau did well to clear some of them. But some of them should have been done better and put in goal tough.

2mins to go till HT

We have played so much better. Mejia f*cked up to give up a lucky goal.

- Raul had a goal wrongfully taken away due to a bad offside call.
- Robinho hit the underside of the crossbar with a nice volley.
- Cassano missed like four easy chances to score.

We better win this match.

- Raul had a goal wrongfully taken away due to a bad offside call.


Nope - check exactly if you can on a tape or so. I've had to see it 3 times to be sure.

When Becks plays the Ball - then Raul is offside, at least a part of him. A second before he was onside. It was tight, but correct to disallow the goal.

To me it looked like he was even with Becks when the ball was played. I saw i 3-4 times as well. It is tough to make a difinitive call because of the angle that was shown.

anyway Cassano is really having a nightmare of a game... definetly not his day...

A chance for Soldado maybe :)

anyway Cassano is really having a nightmare of a game... definetly not his day...

A chance for Soldado maybe :)


I agree, this has been Cassano's worst game for us, no finishiung whatsoever.

Atleast he is getting chances though. (:/)

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http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/frances/Mavuba/cree/Madrid/le/sigue/dasftb/20060423dasdasftb_5/Tes/

in other news as.com says that Real Madrid is following Rio Antonio Mavuba again.

Rio Mavuba, great french talent from Bordeaux. I think he's already got two caps for the national team. His default position is defensive-midfielder but he can play as a normal CM or even AM.