Is he Perez's cousin? IIRC one of the cnadidates was.

oh, i almost forgot.. Palacios promises to sign Iniesta from Barcelona also. :$

no, i think Villar Mir is Perez cousin. i could be wrong tho. :)

I'll tell you. He is partnered with a bunch of resentful exclub members (Del Bosque, Camacho -who has flown away 2 times so far-...) just for their names, not for their coaching or proffesional skills.

1) Camacho as sports director. A guy that have no idea of signing (he didn't want Xabi Alonso time ago and signed the injured Woogate), and it's showing it one more time with his promises for this time: all attacking players, no DM, no LB, only spanish players (?). Willing to pay 60 m € for Iniesta :S

2) Del Bosque. Failed misserably in Turkey, as soon as he didn't have an already made and class team. Guess what he can do with an all new project :S

All in all this guy is pure demagogy, don't think he have a clue how to drive Madrid.

now im worried.. :(

CALDERON!!

Calderón new leader!! :bob:

14:30 results

Baldasano 6,9%
Calderón 25,8%
Palacios 24,9%
Sanz 9,1%
Villar Mir 17,5%

Is Calderon the one who wants Capello, Ibrahimovic etc.?

yup. althou, Zlatan hasnt been mentioned in a long time. however, Capello is said to be Calderón's coach and he also wants Zambrotta. :)

C'mon Calderón :rockman:

C'mon Calderón :rockman:

No not Calderon....I got a feeling that if he wins things wont be getting any better. I cant believe Palacios is gettting so many votes...:|

C'mon Villar Mir...:(

Calderón new leader!! :bob:

14:30 results

Baldasano 6,9%
Calderón 25,8%
Palacios 24,9%
Sanz 9,1%
Villar Mir 17,5%Yeah, what a relief! Although this will surely be decided by a close margin... Calderon isn't interested in Zlatan BTW. It's Palacios.

Haha c'mon Socrates Villar Mir is a cheater, trying to use fake mail votes... And now he's losing he has started to say he will impugn the result of these elections... What a crybaby!

Calderon wants Capello, Zambrotta, Reyes and who else?

Yeah, what a relief! Although this will surely be decided by a close margin... Calderon isn't interested in Zlatan BTW. It's Palacios.

Haha c'mon Socrates Villar Mir is a cheater, trying to use fake mail votes... And now he's losing he has started to say he will impugn the result of these elections... What a crybaby!

What about Caldeorn, he was on the board when they approved the rules for absantee ballots and now he took the rules to court becuse it would beneift the other candidates. It seemed like the others did not want to make such a big deal out of it except for Calderon...who was on the board when they aprroved the damn thing. I have heard that because of this 40% of socios will not be able to vote. He keeps saying he has contracts and reached agreements with players that keep rejecting him, his drive to get Kaka is also amazing :X Calderon is a lawyer and in the bullfighting scene...not so good that is. To top it all off, coming from FP's board its funny to see that he had such big differences with Perez but did not do anything while he was on the board. Like I said, to me he seems like a very shady person.

He was in the board when the electoral law was passed but he maybe couldn't imagine the whole fake votes thing the club is using to favour a candidate.

And the 40% thing is false. Only 2,200 socios more or less live outside Madrid province. But Villar Mir includes socios outside Madrid downtown into his calculations, which makes 22,000 that's actually almost 40%. But that's plain ridiculous cause you're as much an hour driving distance from Bernabeu if you live in the province.

About the fake signings, even if the Kaka thing is false Mijatovic is trying to reinforce all the positions we actually need to reinforce.

BTW, surveys at 15.30, Calderon keeps leading http://www.marca.com/realmadrid/elecciones2006/index.html

He was in the board when the electoral law was passed but he maybe couldn't imagine the whole fake votes thing the club is using to favour a candidate.

And the 40% thing is false. Only 2,200 socios more or less live outside Madrid province. But Villar Mir includes socios outside Madrid downtown into his calculations, which makes 22,000 that's actually almost 40%. But that's plain ridiculous cause you're as much an hour driving distance from Bernabeu if you live in the province.

About the fake signings, even if the Kaka thing is false Mijatovic is trying to reinforce all the positions we actually need to reinforce.

BTW, surveys at 15.30, Calderon keeps leading http://www.marca.com/realmadrid/elecciones2006/index.html

About the fake votes thing, are you talking about how the other candidates were saying that VM will get 20,000 votes because Perez supports him and will help him get it? I honestly dont know if its true or not..(:/) Or maybe your talking about something else?

Hm, thanks for the clearafiction on the about of Socios outside of Madrid ( its really only that many? )

Oh yes Mijatovic, a guy who wants to keep Carlos...most likely because he played with Carlos.

Now not saying VM is the perfect candidate ( honestly none of them impress me ) but he seems to look the best out of the others and he also has Saniz who I think is the perfect person for the job.

About the fake votes here it goes an example. There was 1 wardrobe in Bernabeu offices (discovered by justice investigators) full of votes for Villar Mir. 400 out of the 500 signatures in the votes seemed totally different from the signatures of the socios they were supposed to belong to. A pile of votes that were going straightly to Villar Mir's bag.

And as I said in my on-field report (H) Mijatovic wants to totally renove all the defence with the exceptions of Cicinho, Ramos and Mejia, so that includes Roberto.

Calderon wants Capello, Zambrotta, Reyes and who else?

Calderón has said that if he wins the elections, these players will come to Madrid.

Kaká (AC Milan)
Arjen Robben (Chelsea)
Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)

+ 2 or 3 more.

So you're getting.. no-one then?

we'll see, Dreath ;)

btw 16:55
Calderón still in the lead at 26,6% (1348 votes), Palacios 2nd at 24% (1212 votes)

Calderón has said that if he wins the elections, these players will come to Madrid.

Kaká (AC Milan)
Arjen Robben (Chelsea)
Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)

+ 2 or 3 more.

He didnt said that. He said he have agreements with the players, that is a different thing.

Well I have agreements with... no Madrid players because well we have better ones already ;)

Oh I love the banter.

ok ok. my bad :p

Crus, who do you want to win?

ok ok. my bad :p

Crus, who do you want to win?

Honestly, i think they all sucks.

But the one i dont hate so much is Ramon Calderon, but i believe he wont bring all the players they name.

If he doesnt bring Kaka i wont care but he doesnt bring a decent CB and Cesc + Emerson/Diarra i will be mad.

The bad thing of this elections is that Calderon said "there is an agreement with Cesc", now Arsenal can say "show me ALL the money you have cause you promised Cesc to your people". Arsenal, Lyon, Juve, Milan, they all will request a lot of money :(

man this is going to be interesting :corn:

calderon at 26.6% right now, with villa mir being the closest competitor at 19.4%

Hi all
-------------------------------------------------------------

Here are the promises of each candidate

-Villar Mir: Wenger and C.Ronaldo..

Director deportivo: Arsene Wenger
Entrenador: Arsene Wenger

---------------------Casillas----------------------
Cicinho ----S.Ramos ----Carvalho ----R.Carlos
---------------------De La Red---------------------
---------------Guti -----------Baptista------------
C.Ronaldo -------------------------------Robinho
----------------------Ronaldo---------------------

-Arturo Baldasano: Diarra, Reyes and Joaquin

Director deportivo: Vicente del Bosque
Entrenador: Sven Goran Eriksson

----------------------Casillas----------------------
Cicinho ----S.Ramos ----Woodgate ----R.Carlos
-----------------------Diarrá-----------------------
-----------------Guti -------Baptista--------------
Joaquín -------------------------------------Reyes
----------------------Ronaldo----------------------

-Juan Palacios: Iniesta, Joaquin, Pablo and Reyes

Director deportivo: José Antonio Camacho
Entrenador: Vicente del Bosque

---------------------Casillas---------------------
Cicinho ----S.Ramos ----Pablo ----Zambrotta
----------------Javi Garcia ----Iniesta-------------------
Joaquín -----------------------------------Reyes
------------Ronaldo -------Robinho---------

-Lorenzo Sanz: Carrick, Gago, Zambrotta, Emerson, Boulahrouz, Ribery.

Director deportivo: Monchi
Entrenador: Vicente del Bosque

-------------------------Casillas----------------------
Salgado ----S.Ramos ----Boulahrouz ----Zambrotta
--------------------------Gago-------------------------
--------------Emerson --------Carrick-----------------
Beckham ----------------------------------------Ribery
------------------------Ronaldo-------------------------

-Ramón Calderón: Kaka, Cesc, Robben, DIarra, Chivu or Varvalho, Abidal or Zambrotta.

Director deportivo: Pedja Mijatovic
Entrenador: Fabio Capello

--------------------Casillas-------------------
Cicinho ----S.Ramos ----Chivu ----Abidal
---------------------Diarrá--------------------
-----------------Cesc :bob: -----Kaka-----------
Robinho ---------------------------------Robben
---------------------Ronaldo------------------

----------------------------------------------

Now we hope Calderon ( he will win ) do all that he said.

yes i hope that calderon wins because i believe he is the only one that we get us back to the winning road

they all suck after seeing those lineups, Ronaldo still in every line up :kader:

Either I don't want the manager/director or some players

interesting tough is that Raul is in no lineup...

man this is going to be interesting :corn:

calderon at 26.6% right now, with villa mir being the closest competitor at 19.4%Which survey are u following? Me MARCA.com where Palacios is 2nd.

All those lineups are pure speculations, in fact I know that at least Calderon is eager to sell Ronaldo, as 1 commercial told me.

Man, I don't know who I want anymore.

I guess Calderon.

COME ON CALDERON!!! I first was for Villa Mir, but after iv read what Face said (and he lives there) i d rather see Calderon win!!! :junior:

Dont think Calderon sell Ronaldo, but they said ( Calderon and Mijatovic ) they need other "9" for subs or play with him, they only gave the name ( in the famous list) of RVN...Ibrahimovic no chance with Capello, and Torres said NO when they tried make a agreement with him.

Which survey are u following? Me MARCA.com where Palacios is 2nd.

All those lineups are pure speculations, in fact I know that at least Calderon is eager to sell Ronaldo, as 1 commercial told me.
lo siento :$

i didnt even realize palacios was in 2nd place, i completely overlooked him. I am following it on Marca as well

I like calderon the best, but i dont want zlatan :(

Dont think Calderon sell Ronaldo, but they said ( Calderon and Mijatovic ) they need other "9" for subs or play with him, they only gave the name ( in the famous list) of RVN...Yeah that's what worry me the most. He also has given the name of Adriano.

19:20 results

Baldasano 6,3%
Calderón 27,5%
Palacios 24%
Sanz 8%
Villar Mir 19,6%

-Juan Palacios: Iniesta, Joaquin, Pablo and Reyes

Director deportivo: José Antonio Camacho
Entrenador: Vicente del Bosque

---------------------Casillas---------------------
Cicinho ----S.Ramos ----Pablo ----Zambrotta
----------------Javi Garcia ----Iniesta-------------------
Joaquín -----------------------------------Reyes
------------Ronaldo -------Robinho---------


Iniesta? :confused: Is that possible?

He'll buy out his minimum release clause. I think he's got an agreement with the player?

iniesta is really good, but not worth that. I understand he is trying to pull a perez, but it's better to focus the money more wisely elsewhere

Iniesta? :confused: Is that possible?

Iniesta has a Cancelling clause of 60m..... Camacho said yesterday Iniesta will play in Real if they win..so.. this guy is idiot...he want make rich to Barça... with 60mi the Barça would sign Cesc, Dani Alves and.. more

Palacios is the worst option...

He'll buy out his minimum release clause. I think he's got an agreement with the player?

yes

Iniesta has a Cancelling clause of 60m..... Camacho said yesterday Iniesta will play in Real if they win..so.. this guy is idiot...he want make rich to Barça... with 60mi the Barça would sign Cesc, Dani Alves and.. more

Palacios is the worst option...

Iniesta? I would not pay more than 15m for him. If Barça is involved i would not pay even 10m

Camacho is no idiot, he knows what he's doing, at the time he was at Real as a coach he did a bad job only because of the same problem Real had during the years, the coaches were marionetes (dolls) in the hands of Perez...

Iniesta is way to important, don't know if it's worth 60 Million, no player on earth is worth that anyway, but he would be so f*cking important to Madrid... Brilliant player

Iniesta is worth 20m or so, Cesc>>>Iniesta

I dont know if Camacho is idiot but to pay 60m for Iniesta is not very intelligent, anyway Calderon is going to win, he wont spend 60m in the subs of Cesc in the WC. He will sign Cesc for the half of money.



-----------------------------------------------------

Iniesta is better than Cesc any day.

About the fake votes here it goes an example. There was 1 wardrobe in Bernabeu offices (discovered by justice investigators) full of votes for Villar Mir. 400 out of the 500 signatures in the votes seemed totally different from the signatures of the socios they were supposed to belong to. A pile of votes that were going straightly to Villar Mir's bag.

And as I said in my on-field report (H) Mijatovic wants to totally renove all the defence with the exceptions of Cicinho, Ramos and Mejia, so that includes Roberto.

So is Mijatovic doing something like what Calderon was doing. Saying that RC will stay and now that he will leave...hmmm.

I have not read up much on the fake voting but once I do I will come to a better conclusion on that issue.

Iniesta is better than Cesc any day.

Thats your opinion, in my opinion Iniesta is just a bench player for Barça that is in the right moment in the right place.

Cesc is much much better, being younger. Specially for spanish football.

You saw Iniesta vs Benfica and you think he is amazing, but you dont know maybe that was his best match perfomance this season. I saw Iniesta other matches and sometimes he need to be more consistent. Some days he is good, other days he is not that good, but hey is young so we forget his bad days.

In the other hand Cesc, i never saw a bad match of Cesc (i saw like 12-15 matches of him this season vs Juventus, Barça, Madrid, France, Tunicia, Ukraine, Ivory Coast,...). Maybe any Arsenal fan can enlight us telling he also have many bad days.

For 20m € we give you his boots.



If you want Iniesta you'll have to transfer 60m€ to our bank account.

The voting has ended, now club's employees are preforming the recount. Calderon starts as favourite attending to the surveys, followed by Palacios and then Villar Mir. Till here all normal but... the asshole of Villar Mir is about to ask for an impugnation of the whole proccess!!!

He want his adultered mail votes to be counted, and he's willing to paralize the proccess for 2 weeks or more only to have a minimum chance to win. That would delay the preseasson, the transfers (making some impossible)... That's how Villar Mir loves Madrid! I'm so pissed off right now...

Man this really sucks, It looks like Calderon will be the new president. If VM decides to appeal the courts ruling and puts us back another week or two, it will be a very bad thing...I really dont know what to think as I want VM to win but I dont want a delay either.

VM should just acept his defeat with honor.

Thats your opinion, in my opinion Iniesta is just a bench player for Barça that is in the right moment in the right place.

Cesc is much much better, being younger. Specially for spanish football.

You saw Iniesta vs Benfica and you think he is amazing, but you dont know maybe that was his best match perfomance this season. I saw Iniesta other matches and sometimes he need to be more consistent. Some days he is good, other days he is not that good, but hey is young so we forget his bad days.

In the other hand Cesc, i never saw a bad match of Cesc (i saw like 12-15 matches of him this season vs Juventus, Barça, Madrid, France, Tunicia, Ukraine, Ivory Coast,...). Maybe any Arsenal fan can enlight us telling he also have many bad days.

Cesc goes a bit quiet in tough games every so often. But he's got his head screwed on, was man of the match against Gerrard and Xabi Alonso. But as he's got his head screwed on so he won't be leaving.

Thats your opinion, in my opinion Iniesta is just a bench player for Barça that is in the right moment in the right place.

Cesc is much much better, being younger. Specially for spanish football.

You saw Iniesta vs Benfica and you think he is amazing, but you dont know maybe that was his best match perfomance this season. I saw Iniesta other matches and sometimes he need to be more consistent. Some days he is good, other days he is not that good, but hey is young so we forget his bad days.

In the other hand Cesc, i never saw a bad match of Cesc (i saw like 12-15 matches of him this season vs Juventus, Barça, Madrid, France, Tunicia, Ukraine, Ivory Coast,...). Maybe any Arsenal fan can enlight us telling he also have many bad days.

Nah, i usually don't talk like that basing my opinion only in a couple of games, from what i saw in the past 2 years specially (we get to see many Barça games in Portugal) he's fantastic, one of the most complete footballers out there, and extremely underrated, although Cesc is also a great player he's a bit overrated (i mean, he's great, but not as great as people paint him)... And i may be wrong, cause i don't follow Iniesta or Cesc games every week, but i believe time will prove Iniesta is much better, and one of the best midfielders in the world...

The game with Benfica was a surprise to every Portuguese, but not to me, i knew him already...

My opinion :)

Nah stop talking about Barça players in such an important moment for us...


It seems Calderon is the winner!!!!!

:lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui:

Nope, that's okay. You can keep him. 60m? That's just insulting, he isn't worth a 1/4 of that. :rofl:

calderon seems the best choice

we can stop talking about iniesta now, we wont be getting him

hopefully the transfers will start tomorrow :hump:

Nah stop talking about Barça players in such a important moment for us...


It seems Calderon is the winner!!!!!

:lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui: :lui:

Damn, oh well the one I wanted to win did not.

EDIT - whoa reading Marca here and they are saying that the vote by mail has not been annulled, just delayed...so that means that a president can not be annoucned yet. They are saying the legal votes by mail must be counted and the illeage votes by mail wont be so...this just got really crazy.

F*ck Villar Mir, have some class for f*ck's sake. :boohoo:

If this goes any longer past Monday... :(

what were calderon aim before the election, did he promised to buy any good players ?

isn't Villar Mir that 75yr old granpa candidate with most of is brain not working anymore....

Nope, that's okay. You can keep him. 60m? That's just insulting, he isn't worth a 1/4 of that. :rofl:It's not a negotiation, it's his release clause. 60m or stay away from him, as simple as that. Barça will never negotiate for Iniesta with Real Madrid.

You're laughing at Camacho and Palacios because they're who were going to pay it.

I also think it's too much money, but Camacho was desperate. Like the rest of candidates, he had to announce some fake signings to get some votes. The elections have been a competition of liars.

It's insulting but the Real Madrid fans believe everything. Palacios was second.

**** if they sell roberto carlos then i'm gonna kill somebody....

real madrid as many great players.. we need only to buy player that we need... there is no point of buying buffon because we already have a great gk...

-------------------Casillas-------------------
------------Ramos---------?????????---------
--Cicinho--------------------Roberto Carlos---
----------?????????????---Guti--------------
--????????????----???????????----Robinho-----
------------------Ronaldo--------------------

we should sell
Beckham - is getting old, and we still can get ****load of money...!!
Raul - :-puke:
Salgado - getting old, playing crap
R. Carcia

but keep ronaldo? you got to be kidding me

yeah and what about Baptista ! He's been class in the 2nd part of the season.
btw the one that seems to win/have won - is he gonna include Soldado in the 1st team please...

sharky sorry to blow up your fantasma
Madrid won't get a lot of cash for Becks and they probably don't want to sell him either because of his impact on clubs finances.

He's 31, quite fit, still a good player, but getting injury prone, not every club can afford him, neither does he want to go to just any random club that pays the transfer fee Madrid might ask for him.

Calderon won in the voting booths by 355 votes over Palacios

It isn't officially over yet. Must be made official by the electoral board.

http://www.marca.com/

The voting has ended, now club's employees are preforming the recount. Calderon starts as favourite attending to the surveys, followed by Palacios and then Villar Mir. Till here all normal but... the asshole of Villar Mir is about to ask for an impugnation of the whole proccess!!!

He want his adultered mail votes to be counted, and he's willing to paralize the proccess for 2 weeks or more only to have a minimum chance to win. That would delay the preseasson, the transfers (making some impossible)... That's how Villar Mir loves Madrid! I'm so pissed off right now...

Good news is that Villar Mir has decided to NOT appeal against the votings.
he says he trusts in that this was done by the court of law.

the mail votes will still be counted tho. Calderón or Palacios will be our new president.

about an hour ago Calderón announced himself as winner. but now he says that it's possible that the electorial commite wont be able to proclaim me as President today.

it's all a mess! :kader:

Calderón won the votings with 8.344 votes.
Palacios (8.098)
Villar Mir (6.702)
Lorenzo Sanz (2.377)
Baldasano (1.581)

but he is N-O-T proclaimed as President. :kader:

no one went against the final result, but still they are delaying the final decision!! :(

f*ck, the marca headline says it all "Sin Presidente"

what a ***king disaster :kader:

Hahahaha

What an absolute joke. Barcelona fans must be pissing themselves.

I think Calderon will be named president tomorrow.

Nah, I think it will take longer

Thay have asked the madrid lawyers college for what do they have to do.

He should say that thi is not his problem and advice them to wait for the judge to decide about the mail vote ... remember that the mailing vote hasn't been declared non-valid (don't know the correct word), it is just under investigation so it could be valid.

There should be no solution until the judge decides about the mail votes.

by the way, just for your information, Law courts in Spain start hollidays on July 15th... that's just 2 weeks :brow:

Nah, I think it will take longer

Thay have asked the madrid lawyers college for what do they have to do.

He should say that thi is not his problem and advice them to wait for the judge to decide about the mail vote ... remember that the mailing vote hasn't been declared non-valid (don't know the correct word), it is just under investigation so it could be valid.

There should be no solution until the judge decides about the mail votes.

by the way, just for your information, Law courts in Spain start hollidays on July 15th... that's just 2 weeks :brow:

Sadly for your that wont happen :)

Sadly for your that wont happen :)

why? will you declare someone as president without knowing if 8000 out of about 28000 votes are correct?

There's only a few hundreds votes difference between the candidates

why? will you declare someone as president without knowing if 8000 out of about 28000 votes are correct?

There's only a few hundreds votes difference between the candidates

Cause Villar Mir will cancel his petition tomorrow or he will be murdered :)

Do you know what i mean, i hope Carlos Sainz will leave this moron.

Man, this is fu*king embarrassing.

why does everyone want Calderon? :confused:

he want's Kaka who we know wont come for a HUGE amount of money.
Robben. no thanks. Madrid look bad enough after this mess, we dont need known divers in our team. EVER.),
Chivu who is just as injury-prone or more than as Woody!
Cesc who will again cost a SH1Tload of money.
and Capello as coach!

I thought everyone wanted the 'Galactico's' era to end and all this guy wants is big names!

I thought Villa-Mir getting Wenger and giving him total control over the team or Lorenzo Sanz with his new-and-improved midfield would be better!

Wenger would bring this team back to winning ways again. He turned a sh1tty club like Arsenal (no-offense) into European contenders, imagine where he could take Real Madrid!!

I see another Perez-esque trophy-less seasons ahead...

why does everyone want Calderon? :confused:

he want's Kaka who we know wont come for a HUGE amount of money.
Robben. no thanks. Madrid look bad enough after this mess, we dont need known divers in our team. EVER.),
Chivu who is just as injury-prone or more than as Woody!
Cesc who will again cost a SH1Tload of money.
and Capello as coach!

I thought everyone wanted the 'Galactico's' era to end and all this guy wants is big names!

I thought Villa-Mir getting Wenger and giving him total control over the team or Lorenzo Sanz with his new-and-improved midfield would be better!

Wenger would bring this team back to winning ways again. He turned a sh1tty club like Arsenal (no-offense) into European contenders, imagine where he could take Real Madrid!!

I see another Perez-esque trophy-less seasons ahead...

To add to that Calderon is imo a shady character and he has a player agent, Mijatovic as our sporting director.

None of the canddiates where good but out of the bunch he (VM) seemed the least worst and Saniz was on his campaign. Please dont ever praise Sanz again :kader:

Arsenal ****ty? You serious?

Wenger would bring this team back to winning ways again. He turned a sh1tty club like Arsenal (no-offense) into European contenders, imagine where he could take Real Madrid!!




And you wonder why Real Madrid fans get alot of sh*t on these boards


no offense to any of the non-ignorant fans

Wenger would bring this team back to winning ways again. He turned a sh1tty club like Arsenal (no-offense) into European contenders, imagine where he could take Real Madrid!!

Arsenal wasnt sh***y!!!

Crus, when can we expect this mess to be sorted out? :(

according to AS, Capello is on his way and will sign a contract for 2 years sometime during this day. Mijatovic is also going to negotiate for players today. :confused:

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Mijatovic/empezara/trabajar/hoy/Capello/dasftbA00/20060703dasdaiftb_27/Tes/

I v also read that Calderon wont be involved with player signings (except KAKA who he wont get anyway). It sounds good! There is nothing worse then President buying players!! Lets hope this is over with! Calderon won, Villa Mir should shut the f*ck up and accept the loss! :junior: :junior:

Lets hope this is the start of a great season/era! :rockman: :rockman:

Crus, when can we expect this mess to be sorted out? :(

according to AS, Capello is on his way and will sign a contract for 2 years sometime during this day. Mijatovic is also going to negotiate for players today. :confused:

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/Mijatovic/empezara/trabajar/hoy/Capello/dasftbA00/20060703dasdaiftb_27/Tes/

No idea, i think today everything will be sorted... i hope.

ok, thanks. i hope your right. (:/)

can Capello sign for us as new coach before this is sorted out?

Capello is such a whore. :( When he was at Roma: ''I will never coach Juventus''. Last may: ''See you back in july! I will definitely be the Juventus coach until 2007''

One of the greatest coaches in the world though.

Capello is such a whore. :( When he was at Roma: ''I will never coach Juventus''. Last may: ''See you back in july! I will definitely be the Juventus coach until 2007''

One of the greatest coaches in the world though.


In April 2006 he was laughing of Real Madrid, when Real Madrid needed a coach as soon as posible cause there was a new president.

After the problems of Juve he changed his mind.

Yeah, probably. Juve can't afford him in Serie B either. For Juve this is the best solution, because now they won't have to pay Capello a penny to terminate his contract.

MARCA reports today that the mail votes will be counted. does that mean that Villar Mir can still be President of Real Madrid?

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/666958.html

That was ment to be a complement to the club snd coach no an insult! I know they're one of the best now you idiots! Before that they were crap! Which is the reason why Wenger is hailed as such a good coach! He made good buys and choices and they became one of the best!

anyway

for a group of people who were glad the 'Galactio' era was over, everyone seems way too happy with a President who wants to buy 3-4 players that will cost over 40mil each!!


...didnt we want that to change? (:/)







oh and PaPaGeorGeo, what are you doing in this thread? shouldnt you be in the Arsenal team thread? or hiding bodies in barrels under your house?

MARCA reports today that the mail votes will be counted. does that mean that Villar Mir can still be President of Real Madrid?

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/666958.html

I think so, if they do count that than either VM or Palacios could win it. It is rumored that Calderon will not get a large amount of the vote by mail, no wonder he did not want it to count. Its like he basically says if you dont vote for me than your vote is annulled. This is pure bull****, I dont see who Calderon is to decide that peoples votes by mail cant count. I really doubt the legitimacy of Calderon being the president, this whole thing is a disaster.

why does it need a president anyway...

if you have a board that makes decision about the club (stadiumroof, tickeprices etc etc) - get a technical director (with longterm vision) for the football part and a manager who shares his ideas. those 2 should then be the only ones to decide on players/team affairs anyway.

oh and PaPaGeorGeo, what are you doing in this thread? shouldnt you be in the Arsenal team thread? or hiding bodies in barrels under your house?

If we want to get personal why dont you go beat people up because they look foreign?

Its like he basically says if you dont vote for me than your vote is annulled.Sorry I haven't posted yet, I've been very busy lately :p

A judge said there was a lot of irregularities with the votes. She blocked all the votes up to the sentence date, and said nobody could mail more votes. If the blocked votes counted now, it would be a contamined result cause you never know which candidate the people who were told not to vote were going to vote.

Still, very suspectful that Villar Mir claims he have mayority in mail votes when he has been 3rd in the main voting, more than 1000 votes behind Calderon.

Calderon wasn't named president yesterday cause Villar Mir rejected signing the voting inform. That bitch prefers the club is hand over hand all the summer (the spanish courts get closed on July 15th) than accept his defeat.

Luckily the board is meeting right know, considering naming Calderon president this same afternoon. That way Capello could be presented and the signings iniciated as soon as possible.

confirmed !!!

we have new president!



Ramon Calderón.

http://www.as.com/composition/images/das/das/por/2006/07/1151928600.jpg

Calderon officially President.

Presidente!!!! :bob:

Calderon on TV:

He confirmed the signings of:

- Capello (coming this evening)
- Robben
- Kaká (he said it will be very expensive)
- Cesc

The TV interviewer asked about Ruud Van Nistelrooy,maybe i misunderstood this, RVN will come too :confused:

He also told its time to find a exit for some actual players, maybe Ronaldo and R.Carlos are there.

Ruud and Becks reunited - the goals will come guaranteed.

Calderon on TV:

He confirmed the signings of:

- Capello (coming this evening)
- Robben
- Kaká (he said it will be very expensive)
- Cesc

The TV interviewer asked about Ruud Van Nistelrooy,maybe i misunderstood this, RVN will come too :confused:

He also told its time to find a exit for some actual players, maybe Ronaldo and R.Carlos are there.

I'm glad we finally have a President. I always thought he was the best candidate. Let's see if he can keep his promises. Kaka at Real Madrid is still only a dream IMO. Capello seems very likely, though.

YESSS!! finally we have a new Presidente!!

what i like the most is that Calderón promised that Soldado, Jurado and De La Red will be promoted to the 1st team. :bob:

but please Senor Calderón, dont give us RvN. i hate him so much! :gavin:

:rockman:

Fabio Capello I expect in the next 2 days.

Calderon is going to have dinner with Capello tonight and they will decide which players to target other than Kaka, Cesc and Robben.

can we make dream lineups now? :confused:
i take that as a yes. :bob:

4-3-3

---------------Casillas------------------
--Cicinho--Ramos--Carvalho--Zambrotta--
-----------Cesc---Diarrá----------------
---------------Kaká--------------------
---Robinho-----------------Robben-----
--------------Soldado------------------

Coach: Capello!

Can't wait for Capello, he's won titles everywhere he's gone. :junior:

He also pretty much build the team that won you the Champions League in 1998 right? For example Mijatovic. :(

He also pretty much build the team that won you the Champions League in 1998 right? For example Mijatovic. :(

Well, thats not true at all.

Real Madrid signed some players like Suker, Seesorf, Secretario, Roberto Carlos, Alfonso, and Mijatovic, but Capello never looked very happy with that.

I dont know how many players signed Capello (Panucci was signed), but he didnt seemed very happy with the signings he always was saying something like "i cant do many things with the players i have"

Ah okay. I thought he requested those players himself.

wow, good to see the election is over, i was worried it would take several days to sort out

i'm not too keen on ruud, but i have total faith in this team if capello is in charge, he's one of the best in the world

do you guys think cassano will stay now? Juve were trying to get him from roma and it seems capello is a huge fan of his

03.07.2006 - 14:57h.
http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/667187.html


Calderón: "Capello, Cesc, Robben y Kaká vendrán"
El ganador de las elecciones a la presidencia del Real Madrid, Ramón Calderón, confirmó este lunes que Fabio Capello, Cesc Fábregas, Robben y Kaká, sus apuestas en la campaña electoral, se incorporarán a la disciplina del club blanco. Calderón, en TVE Madrid, reveló que "Kaká será caro, es un futbolista interesante y le veremos en el Real Madrid".
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he is saying again Robben , Kaka and Cesc will play in Real for sure, althought they will have to pay to much money for Kaka.
Good new De la Red will be promoted first team, i like this player, other good option could be Javi Garcia.

hm i think Diarra wont come, yesterday Mijatovik said Emerson, Zambrotta, Chivu and Van Nistelroy would be probably the others player would come.

If we get Emerson I am going to cry, there are better players than him on the market like Diarra and Mascherano.

Emerson is not very talented, he just fouls a lot imo

Calderon is slowly pulling Kaká out of his plans.. Told you he was lying ;)

LOL


www.corrieredellosport.it It say Milan is loaning Kaka to Lyon!!

www.olweb.fr Lyon deny that!


It looks like Milan wanna loan Kaka so they wont miss him (Milan going to Serie B? (:/) )


This summer is gonna have many entertainment for us :corn:

']Calderon is slowly pulling Kaká out of his plans.. Told you he was lying ;)


Can you explain how he is pulling him from his plans ?

http://www.as.com/articulo/futbol/algunos/crean/Kaka/va/venir/dasftb/20060703dasdaiftb_21/Tes/

He specifically says, although you might not believe it Kaka will come.

I don't think he will just because he will be so expensive, but how can you say he is pulling him out of his plans?

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/07/03/futbol/1151935225.html

This is a pretty good article for those who can read spanish.

Tells the key to Calderon's victory.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/667447.html

In Calderon's first press conference, he claims that he Capello will not cost anything to sign(due to clauses in his contract) and that he is in Turin taking care of his situation with Juve. He expects to present him either on Wednesday or Thursday.

He says it'll be hard to get Kaka, but he believes he will succeed. He says signing Cesc and Robben will be more straight forward. He also wishes to keep Ronaldo.

I hope there's more news soon!!!

noooooooooooooooo FFS Ronaldo is a "cancer" for a RM rebuilding process.

Capello (:/)
Fabregas & Kaka (Y)
Robben (N)
keeping Ronaldo :kader:

btw Roberto Carlos has quit the Brazil NT

The exact quote about Ronaldo is "Me parece un genio pero debe decirlo el entrenador."

My spanish isn't that good but I think it means, "To me he is a genius, but it's up to the coach to decide."

Robben is a definate (Y) in my book. Well, as long as he stays healthy.

i don't like Capello :/. Yes hes won titles everywhere he's gone, but i dont like the style he did it in :).
Whatever happens though, its still gonna be Real Madrid :).

My spanish isn't that good but I think it means, "To me he is a genius, but it's up to the coach to decide."Exactly :) I hope he sticks to his word and sell him to the best buyer :jap:

Capello did great the last time he year he was here, he won la Liga and the team almost reaches our historical scored goal record; so you can't say he was very defensive minded.

So face, any new stories from Spain? Has Capello actually said anything about joining us?

So face, any new stories from Spain? Has Capello actually said anything about joining us?He has travelled from Marbella (Spain), where he was on holidays, to Italy to end up his contract with Juve. He'll be presented on wednesday or more likely on thursday :)

Capello did great the last time he year he was here, he won la Liga and the team almost reaches our historical scored goal record; so you can't say he was very defensive minded.


He gets good results but he was whistled and he eventually left because he had a boring style of play, hopefully it is different this time.

I knew that much already. I'd really like for him to make an official statement.

Calderon's vision so far...

------------Casillas----------
Cicinho--Ramos--?????--?????
--------Cesc----??????-------
Robinho-----Kaka------Robben
-----------Ronaldo?----------

Coach: Capello

didnt marca or someone have a list of players capello wanted to get rid of back a little while back? I know it was sometime during the season, I'm pretty sure it included ronaldo, roberto carlos, salgado, etc.

It was probably speculation but who knows

I trust in capello to bring us great results :bob:

are you sure that elections affair is over? it isn't.

The show will continue.

I knew that much already. I'd really like for him to make an official statement.

Calderon's vision so far...

------------Casillas----------
Cicinho--Ramos--?????--?????
--------Cesc----??????-------
Robinho-----Kaka------Robben
-----------Ronaldo?----------

Coach: Capello

Keep dreaming with Kaka, remember that he signed a new contract with us just a few days ago.

Keep dreaming with Kaka, remember that he signed a new contract with us just a few days ago.

Do you think that'll stop Madrid lying about it? Cesc comes out and denies all reports, they then accuse HIM of lying. Kaka signs a new deal, but that cannot be so, it's a smoke screen! He's definatly joining them.

Calderon is a football version of a politician. When was the last time someone with the opportunity of power stayed honest, or held his promises? Even that Barcelona dude said he had a deal for Beckham.

but honestly the Barca people had a deal with Utd over Becks, but he didn't want to join Barca but Real instead...

but honestly the Barca people had a deal with Utd over Becks, but he didn't want to join Barca but Real instead...

barça talked first with the club, madrid talked first with the player

barça talked first with the club, madrid talked first with the player

Why doesn't that surprise me?

barça talked first with the club, madrid talked first with the player

Thats why Milan reported Madrid activities to the FIFA, because you always have to talk first with the club, not with the player.

The electing of a new president apparently means that all the big clubs will turn over their best players to them... Do you guys actually believe any of it? Robben is priceless because of his value plus Chelsea is in no need to sell. Maybe the reason why Real is no longer a team everyone wants to play for is because they haven't won anything and with their current squad, it doesn't seem too bright. But, forget it, let's just try to sign every offensive superstar, play them out of position or freeze them on the bench!

I knew that much already. I'd really like for him to make an official statement.

Calderon's vision so far...

------------Casillas----------
Cicinho--Ramos--?????--?????
--------Cesc----??????-------
Robinho-----Kaka------Robben
-----------Ronaldo?----------

Coach: CapelloHis vision sucks then.

--------------Casillas-------------
-Cicinho--Ramos---Gallas--Salcido-
--------Fagregas---Baptista-------
--Joaquin----------------Robinho--
---------Ronaldo--Cassano--------

Bench: Raul, Guti, P.Garcia, Salgado, Mejia, Woody, Bravo, D. Lopez, and probably Pavon. :|
+ these 6 canteranos: Arbeloa, Jurado, J.Garcia, De la Red, Soldado, Balboa.

No strange names in there right? :junior:

Sell Gravesen, R.Carlos, Helguera. Becks too.






Yeah, that's right. Woodgate is gonna become a legend at Madrid next season. Keep him on the team, HE HAS TO PAY US BACK W/ AT LEAST A YEAR!! Oh, and our coach (should've been) is coaching the other Madrid.

I really want to see if Capello is the best coach for us.

Sorry I haven't posted yet, I've been very busy lately :p

A judge said there was a lot of irregularities with the votes. She blocked all the votes up to the sentence date, and said nobody could mail more votes. If the blocked votes counted now, it would be a contamined result cause you never know which candidate the people who were told not to vote were going to vote.

Still, very suspectful that Villar Mir claims he have mayority in mail votes when he has been 3rd in the main voting, more than 1000 votes behind Calderon.

Calderon wasn't named president yesterday cause Villar Mir rejected signing the voting inform. That bitch prefers the club is hand over hand all the summer (the spanish courts get closed on July 15th) than accept his defeat.

Luckily the board is meeting right know, considering naming Calderon president this same afternoon. That way Capello could be presented and the signings iniciated as soon as possible.

I am also sorry for the late response, I have been at work/school the whole day :gavin: fecking tired.

You know what, I had a long post written up to replay to you than it all got deleted (:/) Oh well the decision is final and I wont talk about it anymore, I still dont think its right to not count the mail by vote as there are a good number of valid votes ( honeslty how many can be fake? If I read right 8,000 votes by mail not coutned for ) in there but whatever. It just seems likes the legit socios that sent in their votes where told that thier opinions dont matter, no matter if they voted for VM, Palacios, Calderon, or etc. I dont like Calderon but I will give him time to see what he does before I say anything else about him. I think he is too hopeful of singing all of those players while not even talking about singing a single defence player. Its so unbalanced and I honestly we dont need to waste so much money on these players.

As for the panaxo/dreath, please stop acting as if your clubs are angels. Now I dont want this to go any more so just stop now before all hell breaks lose and people run the risk of getting carded. Just to be clear here I dont like the way Calderon is doing things either.

His vision sucks then.

--------------Casillas-------------
-Cicinho--Ramos---Gallas--Salcido-
--------Fagregas---Baptista-------
--Joaquin----------------Robinho--
---------Ronaldo--Cassano--------

Bench: Raul, Guti, P.Garcia, Salgado, Mejia, Woody, Bravo, D. Lopez, and probably Pavon. :|
+ these 6 canteranos: Arbeloa, Jurado, J.Garcia, De la Red, Soldado, Balboa
wow. Someone who hasnt been taken by all the hype.

When you all hear rumors of Robben, Kaka, Joaquin and Ronaldo it would strike me as odd nobody is concerned with balance.

Robben (N) (N) --> Why?! Because he is a player that thinks he is the man/best. Look, at Chelsea and the Dutch NT he can act like that, because he is actually one of their best players, but in Real he wouldnt be the best (by far) and believe me...he WONT like it! He is such a stupid fool that only thinks about himself! And he isnt as good as everyone thinks....ask Miguel ;) He owned him twice (Euro04 and WC06).
Kaka (Y) --> It would be great but i dont believe it ;)
Diarra (Y) --> A must!
Cesc (Y) --> Would be great!

I hope Soldado gets promoted! He is great!! And btw, Cassano will stay almost certain, because he and Capello have a sort of father-son relation. Capello loves the kid! Now lets hope he cant train of his weight and we get to see the real Cassano!! :rockman: :rockman:

wow. Someone who hasnt been taken by all the hype.

When you all hear rumors of Robben, Kaka, Joaquin and Ronaldo it would strike me as odd nobody is concerned with balance.

Well I havent either and I am also worried that there seems to be no balance to all of this...:( It seems like the others heard a attacking players name and got a massive hard-on:kader: I wont say too much as I will wait to see what transfers they make at the end of the transfer window but judging but what they say it does not look so great.

The only realistic star I see Real getting is Joaquin and maybe Reyes. Beyond that, I dont see anyone else. Cesc, Robben, Kaká.. meh.. I can assure you, at the end of the day, you guys WONT be disappointed with the signings you've made, but the signings wont be the ones promised.. instead its gonna be someone like Diarra.. Or that Gago guy.. Someone along those lines.

Even C. Ronaldo doesnt seem likely anymore.

barça talked first with the club, madrid talked first with the playerYeah, Barça are saints. They also sign players in the last minute of the transfer market paying their releasing fee, which make them worth of a sit near Jesuschrist.

']The only realistic star I see Real getting is Joaquin and maybe Reyes. Beyond that, I dont see anyone else. Cesc, Robben, Kaká.. meh.. I can assure you, at the end of the day, you guys WONT be disappointed with the signings you've made, but the signings wont be the ones promised.. instead its gonna be someone like Diarra.. Or that Gago guy.. Someone along those lines.

Even C. Ronaldo doesnt seem likely anymore.
Really if we could get Diarra and (ESPECIALLY) Gago I wont be dissapointed at all. I always say in my posts 'WOULD be great if we get him' because i dont expect to get Kaka or Cesc. Especially Kaka seems impossible (except if they go to Serie B wich i actually dont want).

-Gago would be the best alternative to Cesc and he is actually better then Cesc. You dont play at Boca if you arent DAMN GOOD!
-C. Ronaldo does seem likely actually , we can still get him. I think that he also knows that the EPL isnt good for him and that he is better off in La Liga.

balance, balance, ... Madrid will sign 3 offensive players and also 3 defensive players, mainly a CB, DM and LB.

But only offensive players names are coming right now.

Capello wants Joaquín !!

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/betis/es/desarrollo/667550.html

also, the other candidiates (except Villar Mir :gavin: ) all offered there signings to Calderón. There's a suggested starting 11 in this article also. (:/)

Casillas, Cicinho, Sergio Ramos, Chivu, Zambrotta, Diarra, Emerson, Beckham, Kaká, Robben and Ronaldo.

but dont take it too serious.

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/667520.html

LOL, this is getting ridiculous, that starting eleven, OMG!


That's Football Manager when you're playing for 10 years already...

Barça will still own you, they have a "team"...

Capello wants Joaquín !!

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/betis/es/desarrollo/667550.html

also, the other candidiates (except Villar Mir :gavin: ) all offered there signings to Calderón. There's a suggested starting 11 in this article also. (:/)

Casillas, Cicinho, Sergio Ramos, Chivu, Zambrotta, Diarra, Emerson, Beckham, Kaká, Robben and Ronaldo.

but dont take it too serious.

http://www.marca.es/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/667520.html
Great news about Joaquin (does that mean bye bye to C.Ronaldo?!). About that Starting 11...its soo funny :rofl: , NO ROBINHO LMAO!!!

balance, balance, ... Madrid will sign 3 offensive players and also 3 defensive players, mainly a CB, DM and LB.Exactly guys, have you forgotten about Mijatovic's list? He promised to cover up all these positions.

Exactly guys, have you forgotten about Mijatovic's list? He promised to cover up all these positions.

With him wanting Cesc, Robben, and Kaka all the transfer money will be gone after singing just two of those superstars (:/)


I hope Soldado gets promoted! He is great!! And btw, Cassano will stay almost certain, because he and Capello have a sort of father-son relation. Capello loves the kid! Now lets hope he cant train of his weight and we get to see the real Cassano!! :rockman: :rockman:

With Capello as coach I doubt it. I would be suprised if Capello is here for more than 2 seaons, imo he seems to be a short term fix just to come in and try to win some things with Madrid than he will be gone and a new manager will come in (:/) Than we are back to our same problem as before,no long term plan what so ever (:/)

With him wanting Cesc, Robben, and Kaka all the transfer money will be gone after singing just two of those superstars (:/)



With Capello as coach I doubt it. I would be suprised if Capello is here for more than 2 seaons, imo he seems to be a short term fix just to come in and try to win some things with Madrid than he will be gone and a new manager will come in (:/) Than we are back to our same problem as before,no long term plan what so ever (:/)
Look to it in a positive way ;) Capello is better then Eriksson ;) (way better)

BTW:
'Prosecutor Stefano Palazzi has requested Juventus be demoted to Serie C, while AC Milan face the prospect of playing in Serie B next season. Furthermore, the Old Lady could be stripped of their last two Scudettos.'
So:
-Juve to Serie C with 6 points down.
-Milan to Serie B with 3 points down
-Fiorentina and Lazio to Serie B and 15(!) points down.

If this is all gonna happen (wich i actually dont want) then they all will lose some players...and one of these teams has our nr.1 Target...this means that he is leaning towards us now. BUT I still dont expect him to play with us next year.

Don't mix up Eriksson as NT manager and as a Club manager, because they're quite a lot different.

Socrates is right, Capello surely is no longterm solution

Don't mix up Eriksson as NT manager and as a Club manager, because they're quite a lot different.

Socrates is right, Capello surely is no longterm solution
Eriksson wasnt fantastic with his Lazio team ;)

Eriksson... :-puke: Cant believe people were being seirous about bringing him here.

Why the fu*k is Emerson being linked to us:sb9:

BTW It looks like Calderon is giong to use all of our money this summer....:( Sad part is we dont need to waste that much money this summer.

Look, this year budget will be much bigger than previous years' if we manage to sell our players for a good price. So I think money won't be a problem, with the necessary condition the target player wants to play here, indeed.

we'll be bringing in money by getting rid of players, we'd have plenty of money if we sold beckham and ronaldo

That is an guess on about how much money in €uro they could be made realisticly by selling them. Keep in mind most of the big earners - have a big salary and I think 2 years at max to run on their contracts, appart from the 3 untouchables.

1 - Iker Casillas 30M €
13 -Diego López <5M €

2- Michel Salgado <5M €
3- Roberto Carlos <5M €
4- Sergio Ramos 20-25M €
6- Iván Helguera <5M €
11- Cicinho 10-15M €
15- Raúl Bravo <5M €
18- Jonathan Woodgate <5M € - because of his injury proness
21- Carlos Diogo <5M €
22- Paco Pavón <5M €
24- Álvaro Mejía <5M €
20- Miñambres <5M €


5- Zinedine Zidane - reitred
8- Julio Baptista 15M €
12- Pablo García <5M €
14- Guti <5M €
16- Thomas Gravesen <5M €
23- David Beckham 15M €

7- Raúl 10M €
9- Ronaldo 15M €
10 - Robinho 15-20M €
19- Cassano 10-15M €

The only players that are IMO 100% untouchable are these 3

Casillas
Ramos
Robinho

Look, this year budget will be much bigger than previous years' if we manage to sell our players for a good price. So I think money won't be a problem, with the necessary condition the target player wants to play here, indeed.

I am not trying to be negative here but I am just being honest, dont you think we should say "wait a second, instead of Robben we could go for ( X ) player or etc...". How many players do you think we will sell and for how much money? I think if we sell the right amount of players we can get a decent amount but not too much. I know we have a bigger budget this time around but does not mean we should use 90% of it when we could get other players that wont cost as much.

BenBeckham you seem to have a lot of 5 million euro pricing on quite a bit of players there. I think we can do a bit better than that. Also Casillas is worth much more than 25 million euros.

Who appart from Chelsea (who doesn't fancy RM players appart from Ramos, ev R.Carlos) can and wants to pay so much money for mostly average players ?

if you feel better I'll put Casillas up with 30... I think he even recently signed a new long term contract didn't he ?

honestly most of the squad is extremly average players, which you won't get lots of money for, maybe these 5ers get you 6.5 Million € but surely not much more than that + most of the bit more expensive players are in their last 2 years of contract.

Wow, with Milandown to B, you might get Kaka after all.

Juventus accepted Fabio Capello's resignation today.

http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=8031

He will be in Madrid tomorrow. :junior:

Fiorentina might get relegated...you know what that means, Luca TONI!! :alex:

I'll be surprised if Toni left Italy, you know the Italian NT, if you don't play in Italy you're not Italian.

I'll be surprised if Toni left Italy, you know the Italian NT, if you don't play in Italy you're not Italian.

True, I can't see the players of the involved clubs leaving Italy, unless they change the selection policy for the NT

Inter Milan might actually buy some Italian players for a change.

Thanks for the news tidbit datboy. It's the confirmation that I needed on Capello.

Toni would go to Inter anyway. Excellent news about Capello and i hope we sign Joaquin ive wanted him at Real for ages.

Well I want to atleast see us make an offer for him, maybe he will think twice and take our offer which would be excellent. I would rather go for Toni than some bigname superstar. Anyway, if all these teams get relegated expect quite a bit of offers for their players ( I think there would be a bidding war on Zambro ).

Fiorentina might get relegated...you know what that means, Luca TONI!! :alex:

That would be amazing if we actually got Toni. I can't see it happening tho but it never hurts for them to try to get him (:/)

we should be in front seat to get Zambrotta since we got Capello. :bob:
he was totally flawless in tonight's match. :jap:

we should be in front seat to get Zambrotta since we got Capello. :bob:
he was totally flawless in tonight's match. :jap:I wouldn't mind getting Cannavaro aswell :D He still has 2 or 3 years of football.

**** that.. u wanna get Zambrotta on the bench??

Roberto Carlos is still the best LB....

sharkman, RC is finished in Madrid.
do you think Mijatovic is looking at Zambrotta and Abidal (2 class LB's) just to sit them on the bench?

Roberto Carlos isn't finished... he has 1-2 seasons still ahead... **** he had a bad season, it doesn't mean ****..

1-2 seasons in Qatar, yes. :amika:

yea Roberto Carlos is a gonna, i hope we get Zambrotta id also love Cannavaro he's excellent and Ramos could learn alot from him in training. Man, i cant wait to see who we get. :bob:

1-2 seasons in Qatar, yes. :amika:

LOL. :clapwap:


Carlos is done. Face the facts and get on with life.

carlos is past his peak, as much as it pains me to say it

Will Baptista get his Spanish Passport before the start of the new season?

**** that.. u wanna get Zambrotta on the bench??

Roberto Carlos is still the best LB....
oh my god, I wet myself


Its all moot anyway. If Zambro goes anywhere he goes to West London. He likes wearing blue (H)

seriously guys, why are you all taking as if EVERYONE is getting relegated? get the facts right. only Juve risk relegation.

Buffon and Zambro prefer Milan anyway. And Cannavaro and Nedved are staying.

The only ones available are Emerson, Vieira, Thuram. Even as we speak Im sure Juve wont get relegated.


You guys suck for hoping Juve to get relegated! Its supposed to be about the football, not about the selfishness of your own clubs :(

and oh yeah, and an incredibly large IF Milan get relegated, Kaká's going to Lyon anyway (H) no way in hell he joining you :ewan:

WHY the hell r u in here??

Go flood another thread with ur nonsense cuz no1 wants to hear it in this thread. And oh, stop lying to urself..cuz we all kno Juve r just f*cked and everyone is gonna leave the team..if i can even call them that. In fact, they're said to be relegated 2 leagues down and I'm damn happy that sumthin like that is bound to come true sooner or later.

No one gives a sh*t about the state of Juve or Serie A for that matter. All we care about is how fast the players will be fleeing and wanting to join other teams...one of the many being us.

Peace out...Il-Tsar? :rofl: :rofl:

']seriously guys, why are you all taking as if EVERYONE is getting relegated? get the facts right. only Juve risk relegation.

Buffon and Zambro prefer Milan anyway. And Cannavaro and Nedved are staying.

The only ones available are Emerson, Vieira, Thuram. Even as we speak Im sure Juve wont get relegated.


You guys suck for hoping Juve to get relegated! Its supposed to be about the football, not about the selfishness of your own clubs :(

Who said we are hoping anyone gets relegated? When this whole thing first came up I even posted that it would be a bit unfair to thier fans if Juve was relegated but if found guilty than they do deserve a punishment.

WHY the hell r u in here??

Go flood another thread with ur nonsense cuz no1 wants to hear it in this thread. And oh, stop lying to urself..cuz we all kno Juve r just f*cked and everyone is gonna leave the team..if i can even call them that. In fact, they're said to be relegated 2 leagues down and I'm damn happy that sumthin like that is bound to come true sooner or later.

No one gives a sh*t about the state of Juve or Serie A for that matter. All we care about is how fast the players will be fleeing and wanting to join other teams...one of the many being us.

Peace out...Il-Tsar? :rofl: :rofl:


I dont think he cares about Juve too much either :confused:

Glad to see some of you like Socrates and Crusader are concered with defense and not your already


Casillas, Cicinho, Sergio Ramos, Chivu, Zambrotta, Diarra, Emerson, Beckham, Kaká, Robben and Ronaldo.
was part of this candidates platform bankrupting your club? :|

we'll be bringing in money by getting rid of players, we'd have plenty of money if we sold beckham and ronaldo
im not sure you'd have a buyer for either. Beckham is still quality, ill admit, but I cant think of a team where he would fit, or be welcomed. If ManU sell Ronaldo...maybe, but I doubt it.

Gordinho though youd have a whale of a time passing off for money. I think the guy should just be offered a nice retirement/severance package and be asked to head back to Brazil. I dont think ive seen him give an honest effort at anything in years


']The only realistic star I see Real getting is Joaquin and maybe Reyes. Beyond that, I dont see anyone else. Cesc, Robben, Kaká.. meh.. I can assure you, at the end of the day, you guys WONT be disappointed with the signings you've made, but the signings wont be the ones promised.. instead its gonna be someone like Diarra.. Or that Gago guy.. Someone along those lines.

Even C. Ronaldo doesnt seem likely anymore.
thats probably the most rational post ive ever read by you. nice work, and I am in agreement in many places

Joaquin would be an especially quality signing for you guys, as would Reyes. Both young, both hungry, both cheap (joaquin's value has dropped way off) and both domestic. This team needs to go back to having a Spainish identity, and getting players who grew up in awe of the Madrid shirt is the best step you can take. And Capello will be a great move by your new President. A real manager who wont be handcuffed by politics.

If you got Reyes, your striking situation would be set and your left wing strengthened
Reyes, Cassano (not going anywhere now, im sure), Raul, Baptista, Robinho is a very solid core of forwards

In terms of right wingers, Joaquin > C. Ronaldo. I see a lot of benifits in getting Joaquin rather than C. Ronaldo, the biggest one being that it would be a lot cheaper by getting Joaquin.

Capello...I still dont think we should have him as manager. Its also interesting that we are linked to Robben/Kaka when Capello does not really like the fancy and or creative type of player. I also wonder how Robinho would fit in. Boring and defensive football here we come :borat:

I too think that Joaquin trumps Ronaldo. I think Ronaldo could blossom in Spain but that Joaquin would just be better for your needs. Not to mention cheaper.

I think despite your dislike of Capello's playing style, a no nonsense, structured type like him is whats needed right now. Playing nice football is one thing, but that comes naturally when you have skilled players. What you guys need is to win, and have a direction. A manager with pedigree, guts, and the balls to drop big names who arent getting it done is just what the doctor ordered.

I doubt you will be dropping many points against league minnows anymore

In terms of right wingers, Joaquin > C. Ronaldo. I see a lot of benifits in getting Joaquin rather than C. Ronaldo, the biggest one being that it would be a lot cheaper by getting Joaquin.

Capello...I still dont think we should have him as manager. Its also interesting that we are linked to Robben/Kaka when Capello does not really like the fancy and or creative type of player. I also wonder how Robinho would fit in. Boring and defensive football here we come :borat:
We will play good football as the time goes on. We have the players for it. If you have a player like Robinho, fun is garanteed!! But if Capello has the guts to bench him, then he should be killed! :junior: :junior:

the "guts" for the manager to bench a player? Brainwashed

AS reports today that Mijatovic is working on 7 players that Capello wants.
they are:

Cesc Fabregas CM (Arsenal)
Eric Abidal LB (Lyon)
Emerson DM (Juventus)
Alex CB (PSV)
Van Nistelrooy CF (Man United)
Diarra DM (Lyon)
Arjen Robben LW (Chelsea)

what i like about this is that Alex is considered 1st choice for CB. and Chivu 2nd.
Diarra is the primary target for the DM spot. Emerson is a target if the Diarra deal fails. however MARCA today: Capello wants Diarra, Emerson and Cesc!

i dont want Emerson, but he could be a good compliment to Diarra.

as for Van Nistelrooy. i hate the guy, but he is a notorious goal scorer. and that is what we need. rather him then Zlatan.

Abidal is thought to be RC's replacement. if he leaves for Chelsea.

Capello will sign a 3-year contract today and i hope we get some news about which players he want to keep and which ones he want out soon.

']and oh yeah, and an incredibly large IF Milan get relegated, Kaká's going to Lyon anyway (H) no way in hell he joining you :ewan:

Kaka will not be be going to Lyon. ROFL.

yes its official capello is the new coach, iam very happy about it the only problem is that he want jouqien i like him to but we doesnt want c.ronaldo, and ronaldo is my favorite player and i support real and man u so i he doesnt return to man u and not go to real then he will go to barca and that will be a nightmare for me

Reyes, Cassano (not going anywhere now, im sure), Raul, Baptista, Robinho is a very solid core of forwardsI'd rather have 2 real strikers than that many 2nd line forwards (:/)

http://www.realmadrid.com/addon/img/3e2246288capello3p.jpg
Capello 10 years ago :$

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma32198.htm

It's official, Fabio Capello is our new manager, he will be presented tomorrow at noon

Hopefully he does a good job for our team. Camon Capello!

AS reports today that Mijatovic is working on 7 players that Capello wants.
they are:

Cesc Fabregas CM (Arsenal)
Eric Abidal LB (Lyon)
Emerson DM (Juventus)
Alex CB (PSV)
Van Nistelrooy CF (Man United)
Diarra DM (Lyon)
Arjen Robben LW (Chelsea)

what i like about this is that Alex is considered 1st choice for CB. and Chivu 2nd.
Diarra is the primary target for the DM spot. Emerson is a target if the Diarra deal fails. however MARCA today: Capello wants Diarra, Emerson and Cesc!

i dont want Emerson, but he could be a good compliment to Diarra.

as for Van Nistelrooy. i hate the guy, but he is a notorious goal scorer. and that is what we need. rather him then Zlatan.

Abidal is thought to be RC's replacement. if he leaves for Chelsea.

Capello will sign a 3-year contract today and i hope we get some news about which players he want to keep and which ones he want out soon.

I also hear that Mijatovic has ruled out getting Reyes or Joaquin. Yea I also heard about the Van Nistelrooy rumor as that is the #9 that Capello wants (:/)

AS reports today that Mijatovic is working on 7 players that Capello wants.
they are:

Cesc Fabregas CM (Arsenal)
Eric Abidal LB (Lyon)
Emerson DM (Juventus)
Alex CB (PSV)
Van Nistelrooy CF (Man United)
Diarra DM (Lyon)
Arjen Robben LW (Chelsea)

what i like about this is that Alex is considered 1st choice for CB. and Chivu 2nd.
Diarra is the primary target for the DM spot. Emerson is a target if the Diarra deal fails. however MARCA today: Capello wants Diarra, Emerson and Cesc!

i dont want Emerson, but he could be a good compliment to Diarra.

as for Van Nistelrooy. i hate the guy, but he is a notorious goal scorer. and that is what we need. rather him then Zlatan.

Abidal is thought to be RC's replacement. if he leaves for Chelsea.

Capello will sign a 3-year contract today and i hope we get some news about which players he want to keep and which ones he want out soon.

that's a pretty good list, it's not all offensively focused as all the rumors have been

i like alex from psv a lot, that guy is built like a tank

not a huge fan of emerson or ruud, but they'd definitely help fill a role here

i am hoping we can still get joaquin, he appears to be leaving betis this summer and it'd be a shame if we didnt get him, he truly is a madridista already

Caderón says that Beckham will absolutely not leave Madrid this summer. he wants him atleast 3 more yrs. (:/)

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373323&cc=5739

Chelsea reports us to FIFA for "illegal approach" on Robben. :s***:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/5151818.stm

3 more years of beckham is ridiculous :gavin:

Caderón says that Beckham will absolutely not leave Madrid this summer. he wants him atleast 3 more yrs. (:/)

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373323&cc=5739

Chelsea reports us to FIFA for "illegal approach" on Robben. :s***:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/5151818.stm

Beckham for three more years... :gavin: :X

Well this is what happens when we got our new president going on to the meida about talking to players and what not. Yes I know just about every club talks to the players agent first and tapping up of players happens all the time but we dont need Calderon or Mijatovic to be telling the media all the time about the players that they talked about or who are going to be singed. So now Calderon has pissed of two clubs.

BTW Ronaldo is getting surgery on his knee.
http://home.skysports.com/worldcup/article.aspx?HLID=400962&CPID=4&title=Ronaldo+set+for+knee+op&lid=&channel=worldcup2006&f=rss&clid=

Calderon can say what he wants about Beckham and Ronaldo, but last word is from Capello.

Calderon can say what he wants about Beckham and Ronaldo, but last word is from Capello.
this is true

by the way, capello is here, he is pictured with calderon on the real madrid website! :ewan:

that CB Alex from PSV - didn't he sign for chelsea and got loaned back to PSV because of workpermit troubles or so ?
He's a class CB

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Here's my 2 cents worth about the Squadverdict:
This is what I think will happen - not what I wish

Casillas- will stay, longterm contract, appart from a bad end to last season a top performer
Salgado – on his way, old, slow, surely not in Caps thinking.
R.Carlos – on the brink – offer from chelsea / probable LB replacement coming ?
Ramos – will stay, longterm deal, has a lot to learn, but a great player already
Zidane – retired (soon)
Helguera – definetly gone, had a poor season, surely has no future at the club
Raul – he is aswell on the brink, shadow of his great former self, can't see him being a starter under Capello and he won't like it sitting on the bench.
Baptista – I think he will get his chance with Capello
Ronaldo – on his way out, Capello doesn't like him I think, and he's so moody, non teamworkers will be quickly moved out by Capello I'd say.
Robinho – he's a certain stayer, long term deal, good future ahead of him.
Cicinho - can be fairly save aswell of his place, specially with Salgado and Diogo probably out
P.Garcia – probably can pack his bags
Lopez – if he doesn't leave the club with the offer he got, a sure number 2 under capello
Guti – I think from the „old“ madrid he'll be one of the few to survive the cut
R.Bravo – he aswell will remain as a squad player
Gravesen – quite unsure about him – have no clue
Woodgate – on his way out sooner than later with his injury history
Cassano – I'd say a certain stayer
Minambres – probably shipped out to make room for youngsters
Diogo – can pack his bags I'd say
Pavon – like Gravesen I'm unsure if he'll stay, probably depends on how many defenders get bought.
Beckham – more on him later in my post.
Mejia – will remain, squad player at least, 100% ahead of Pavon

Soldado – will get his chance – at least getting into the A-Team for good.
De La Red – same as Soldado
Balboa, Jurado, Arbeloa could get promoted into the 25 squad

as for Becks:

Madrids Moneymen want him to stay almost at all costs, as does the president, the official supplier (Adidas) and probably all sponsors aswell.
I have no Idea if Capello likes him or not but I think Becks there got a „Carte Blanche“ because of the above mentioned things.

Becks himself want to stay aswell + he has „only“ 2 years to run on his contract, not many clubs can afford him, and he doesn't want to join any random club aswell.

Footballingwise if Capello really wants Nistelrooy, of corse it would make enormous sense to keep Becks – because he suplied Ruud with the crosses in order for him to break all scoring records and make him a world class finisher.

Performancewise Becks has been ok for Madrid last Season and aswell for England during the World Cup, of corse not great but not that bad either as all make it. I think it will be important and that counts generally – that the balance is right in the Midfield in order to bring out his best.


Anyway to summ it up:
I think this will be the „core“ of next seasons Madrid (without the incoming transfers“

18 Players to remain:
Casillas
R.Carlos (ev)
Ramos
Raul (ev)
Baptista
Robinho
Cicinho
Lopez
Guti
Bravo
Gravesen (ev)
Cassano
Becks
Mejia
Soldado
De La Red
Jurado
Balboa

8 Players on the way out:
Salgado
Helguera
Ronaldo
Garcia
Woodgate
Minambres
Diogo
Pavon

I Think Ronaldo, Salgado, Garcia, Pavon and Woodgate will stay, Gravesen and Carlos will go.

You will have teams lining up around the block if you decide to sell Graveson.

You will have teams lining up around the block if you decide to sell Graveson.
:rofl:

the transfer fee should be enough to buy kaka straight up

also, on a serious note, does anyone know if robben and ruud get along? It seems a few of robben's dutch teammates were unhappy with his selfish play during the world cup

Time to return my attention back to the other team that depresses me. :(

Glad to see we got Capello. I'm just crossing my fingers that we buy/sell the right players and that we can finally lift a trophy again.

guys, the pre-season begins tomorrow !! :bob:

I think Capello can bring back Real Madrid on top again.

i think real madrid should get: cannavaro(probably the greatest cb in the world right now), zambrotta and gattuso (great dm) with these 3 you wont have to worry about the defense, and up front kaka, joaquin and ribery. these players with the other great players that are in real madrid already and a great manager like capello is enough.

How much money do you think they have?

Why is Graveson no good, I just don't understand this? He offers no attack, but he's clearly one of the better DMs around. Unless you're getting Gattuso or Mascherano (you should get him) why not just hang on to him until you do get someone world class?

i think real madrid should get: cannavaro(probably the greatest cb in the world right now), zambrotta and gattuso (great dm).
If that were to happen they could just give up on playing for the Azzurri right now: Lippi doesn't call up players who play outside of Italy
Cannavaro in Spain? C'mon get real

so, i guess by the way we seem to be looking at Wingers and target forwards (c.Ron/Jaoquin - RVN ect..) that we will play a 4-3-3?

if we get Jaoquin/C.Ron/Robben will Becks start?
-----------------ST---------------- <- if we play this way then someone good on the fast break and in the air. (RVN i guess...)
Robinho---------------------Jaoquin- <or C.Ron/Robben
----------------AM------------------ <- i really dont think Kaka will come. maybe im wrong.
---------------------Becks----------- <- as a CM/DM role? or Cesc
---------DM------------------------- <-Diarra/Mascherano/Yaya Toure?
---LB-----------------------Cichino-- <-Abidal/Zambrotta
-----------CB------Ramos----------- <-Carvalho,Thuram,Alex....whoever
---------------IKER-----------------

How much money do you think they have?

Why is Graveson no good, I just don't understand this? He offers no attack, but he's clearly one of the better DMs around. Unless you're getting Gattuso or Mascherano (you should get him) why not just hang on to him until you do get someone world class?

Well according to Calderon we have something around 100 million euros ( I think its 103 million but not 100% sure )...but with the type of players he wants that wont be enough. According to Calderon we made a profit of 80 million euros last year.

The problem with Gravesen is that he thinks he is a AMC ( well he is actually a CM ), he is not a DM. Many times he is attacking with the ball when he just needs to sit back and help cover the center. He was awsome at first than he said he wanted a more attacking role and his performance started to go down...that turned to him being on the bench. Compared to a lot of DM's he is not that good. I am thinking he will either go back to the EPL or to some German team.

Lets stop the tactics please, oh and Italian defenders are very welcomed here as are Italian DM's. Italians = great defence.