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Website: www.fcporto.pt


Stadium: Estádio Do Dragão
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History:

September, 1893. Out from nothing, as a secret ambition unfolded by a tough and inflexible reality, F.C. Porto has been founded. António Nicolau d´Almeida, a fine sportsman and an expert Oporto Wine trader, invited, in the quality of F.C. Porto president, F.C. Lisbonense to a football match. It was the first appearance in a football match for the club, the most ancient page written in a hundred years of history.

Deep and insightful enthusiasm marked the years that followed F.C. Porto foundation. To unite the efforts of the local community with the strong English representation in Oporto was the goal of José Monteiro da Costa. This led to extinction of Grupo Recreativo «O Destino» in favour of F.C. Porto. It was the beginning of a solid structure.

The founders were men strongly determined to engender a symbol, an emblem or an icon, in which future generations would have pride on. Their remarkable initiative is still remembered. Blue and white were the colours chosen, as meaning of pureness, calmness and stillness of mind. The colours were represented, at that early time, in the Portuguese flag.

F.C. Porto evolved his purposes to national and universal goals. In the first emblem, the symbol was, of course, a football ball with the F.C.P. initials. Twenty years later the Oporto city shield becomes vital part of F.C. Porto badge. In 1948, the 3-2 victory over Arsenal, team at the time known as the best team in the world, was a proof of the blue and white potential.

Over the years F.C. Porto grew as the conquests were becoming bigger and as his purposes were becoming greater. The symbol of a region astounded the country and surprised the world. De 1980’s were probably the most memorable decade. In 1987 and 1988, F.C. Porto conquered the European Cup, the Intercontinental Cup and the European Supercup, outstanding deed, a proof of the success of special approach in how to deal with sports. Few years later, F.C. Porto achieved a goal that no other club in Portugal dare to accomplish. Five Championships in a row was a remarkable act, another great page in the club's history.

Nowadays the world has changed and Portugal too has evolved. Sports reality is now more complex, but F.C. Porto remains at the top. The club remained winning and the dynamics persist, continuing to be a flag of the region. F.C. Porto has now representation all over the country and all over the world.

The Centro de Treinos e Formação Desportiva PortoGaia and the Dragão Stadium are modern standard of a vanguard difficult to be equalised. The future shines as a reflex of the conquests of the UEFA Cup, in the season 2002/03, of the UEFA Champions League, in 2003/04, and the Intercontinental Cup, in 2004.

Beyond the reality that surrounds football, F.C. Porto showed his greatness in other sports. The honours achieved speak for it. The club that has a Dragon as a symbol holds the Championship title in basketball, handball and roller-hockey, the sports that more cheer up the portuguese. Billiards, swimming, athletics, adapted sport, motor sports, boxing, camping, chess, fishing, karate and weightlifting give also the contribution to this history of success and insure the diversity and necessary involvement in community well being.


Honours:

League Winners:
1921/22,1924/25,1931/32,1934/35,
1936/37,1938/39,1939/40,1955/56,
1958/59,1977/78,1978/79,1984/85,
1985/86,1987/88,1989/90,1991/92,
1992/93,1994/95,1995/96,1996/97,
1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,2003/04

Cup Winners:
1955/56,1957/58,1967/68,1976/77,
1983/84,1987/88,1990/91,1993/94,
1997/98,1999/00, 2000/01,2002/03

Supercup Winners:
1981/82,1983/84,1984/85,1985/86,
1989/90,1990/91,1992/93,1993/94,
1995/96,1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,
2003/04

UEFA Cup Winners:
2002/03

Champions League Winners:
1986/87, 2003/04

European Supercup Winners:
1986/87

Intercontinental Cup Winners:
1987/88, 2004/05


Season 2005/06


Confirmed Transfers:

Players IN:
Lucho González (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=296462.html) (River Plate)
Lisandro Lopez (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=296066.html) (Racing Club)
Tomo Sokota (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=306564.html) (Benfica)
Sandro (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=308683.html), Paulo Ribeiro (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=312817.html) (V. Setúbal)
Anderson (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=310826.html) (Grêmio)
Fatih Sonkaya (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=315612.html) (Besiktas)
Marek Cech (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=333279.html) (Sparta Praha)
Jorginho (V. Setubal)
Alan (Maritimo)
Helton (U. Leiria)
Paulo Assunção, Bruno Alves (AEK, back from Loan)
César Peixoto (V. Guimarães, back from Loan)
Hugo Almeida (Boavista, back from Loan)
Bruno Moraes (V. Setubal, back from Loan)
Adriano (Cruzeiro)

Players OUT:
Costinha, Maniche (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=301943.html), Seitaridis (http://www.uefa.com/footballcentral/news/Kind=2/newsId=303874.html) (Dinamo Moscow)
L. Fabiano (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UEFACup/news/Kind=1/newsId=314617.html) (Sevilla)
Nuno Valente (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UEFACup/news/Kind=1/newsId=330835.html) (Everton)
Hugo Leal (Released)
Jankauskas (Released)
Jorge Costa (http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/Kind=2/newsId=375319.html) (Standard Liége)

Loans:
Bruno Vale, Paulo Machado (E. Amadora)
Vieirinha, Pedro Ribeiro, Gonzalo (Marco)
Organista (Pontevedra)
Rodrigo Ângelo (Chaves)
Pedro Oliveira (V. Setubal)
Marcos Antonio (Gil Vicente)
Rui Sacramento (Valdevez)
Flávio Igor (Setúbal B)
Ricardo Costa (Tourizense)
Sandro (Tourizense)
Vítor Silva (Santa Clara)
Maciel (U. Leiria)
Claudio (Al Ittihad/Santos)
Leo Lima (Santos)
Areias (Boavista)
Leandro do Bomfim (São Paulo)
Sandro (Vestel Manisaspor)
Marco Ferreira (Penafiel)
Leandro (Cruzeiro)
Hélder Postiga (St. Etienne)


Transfer Rumours:

Players IN:

Players OUT:


Pre-Season Fixtures/Results:

Porto, Portugal
Saturday, July 9th:
Porto x Tourizense (Friendly)
3 x 1
Jorginho, César Peixoto, Postiga; Chano

Doorwerth, Holland
Wednesday, July 13th:
NEC x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 1
Postiga

Doorwerth, Holland
Saturday, July 16th:
Bennekom x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 7
Bomfim (pen), Alan, Ivanildo, Quaresma (pen), Pepe, Sokota, Hugo Almeida

Doorwerth, Holland
Wednesday, July 20th:
Vitesse x Porto (Friendly)
2 x 0
Pedro Emanuel (o.g.), Amoah

Brugge, Belgium
Saturday, July 23th:
Club Brugge x Porto (Torten Goetinck Trophy)
2 x 2 (7-8 after Pens)
Balaban (pen), Balaban; Benni (pen), Ricardo Costa

Amsterdam, Holland
Friday, July 29th:
Porto x Boca Juniors (Amsterdam Tournament)
2 x 0
Postiga, Jorginho

Amsterdam, Holland
Sunday, July 31st:
Porto x Arsenal (Amsterdam Tournament)
1 x 2
Lisandro; Ljungberg x2

London, England
Saturday, August 6th:
Tottenham x Porto (Friendly)
2 x 0
Defoe x2

Penafiel, Portugal
Wednesday, August 10th:
Penafiel x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 2
Hugo Almeida, Sokota

Porto, Portugal
Saturday, August 13th:
Porto x Espanyol (Friendly)
3 x 0
Jorginho x2, Lucho


Squad:

Goalkeepers
99 Vítor Baía
1 Helton
30 Paulo Ribeiro

Left Backs
35 Marek Cech
(21 César Peixoto)

Right Backs
22 Fatih Sonkaya
(12 Bosingwa)

Centre Backs
4 Pedro Emanuel
3 Ricardo Costa
14 Pepe
13 Bruno Alves

Defensive Midfielders
(12 Bosingwa)
18 Paulo Assunção
16 Raúl Meireles

Centre Midfielders
6 Ibson
8 Lucho González

Offensive Midfielders
20 Diego
17 Jorginho
30 Anderson

Right Wingers
7 Quaresma
27 Alan

Left Wingers
(21 César Peixoto)
25 Ivanildo

Forwards
11 Lisandro Lopez
29 Bruno Moraes
9 Benni McCarthy
19 Tomo Sokota
39 Hugo Almeida

Coach: Co Adriaanse


Season Fixtures/Results:


Sunday, August 21th:
Porto x Estrela da Amadora (Portuguese League, 1st round)
1 x 0
Ricardo Costa

Friday, August 26th:
Naval x Porto (Portuguese League, 2nd round)
2 x 3
Bruno Fogaça, César Peixoto (o.g.); César Peixoto x2, Hugo Almeida

Saturday, September 10th:
Porto x Rio Ave (Portuguese League, 3rd round)
3 x 0
Quaresma, Alan, Hugo Almeida

Tuesday, September 13th:
Rangers x Porto (Champions League, Group H, 1st round)
3 x 2
Lovenkrands, Prso, Kyrgiakos; Pepe x2

Sunday, September 18th:
Braga x Porto (Portuguese League, 4th round)
0 x 0

Saturday, September 24th:
Porto x Belenenses (Portuguese League, 5th round)
2 x 0
Benni, Jorginho

Wednesday, September 28th:
Porto x Artmedia (Champions League, Group H, 2nd round)
2 x 3
Lucho, Diego; Petras, Kozak, Borbely

Sunday, October 2nd:
Maritimo x Porto (Portuguese League, 6th round)
2 x 2
Manduca, Marcinho; Lisandro, César Peixoto

Saturday, October 15th:
Porto x Benfica (Portuguese League, 7th round)
0 x 2
N. Gomes x2

Wednesday, October 19th:
Porto x Inter (Champions League, Group H, 3rd round)
2 x 0
Materazzi (o.g.), Benni

Sunday, October 23rd:
Nacional x Porto (Portuguese League, 8th round)
0 x 1
Hugo Almeida

Wednesday, October 26th:
Porto x Marco (Portuguese Cup, 4th round)
1 x 0
Ivanildo

Saturday, October 29th:
Porto x Setubal (Portuguese League, 9th round)
0 x 0

Tuesday, November 1st:
Inter x Porto (Champions League, Group H, 4th round)
2 x 1
Cruz x2; Hugo Almeida

Sunday, November 6th:
Paços de Ferreira x Porto (Portuguese League, 10th round)
0 x 1
Quaresma

Saturday, November 19th:
Porto x Academica (Portuguese League, 11th round)
5 x 1
Lucho x2, Lisandro x2, César Peixoto; Marcel

Wednesday, November 23rd:
Porto x Rangers (Champions League, Group H, 5th round)
1 x 1
Lisandro; McCormack

Monday, November 28th:
Gil Vicente x Porto (Portuguese League, 12th round)
0 x 1
Lucho

Friday, December 2nd:
Porto x Sporting (Portuguese League, 13th round)
1 x 1
Polga (o.g.); Deivid

Tuesday, December 6th:
Artmedia x Porto (Champions League, Group H, 5th round)
0 x 0

Saturday, December 10th:
União de Leiria x Porto (Portuguese League, 14th round)
1 x 3
Fábio Felício; Laranjeiro (o.g.), Lisandro, Diego

Saturday, December 17th:
Porto x Penafiel (Portuguese League, 15th round)
3 x 1
Lucho x2, Lisandro; Bruno Amaro

Thursday, December 22th:
V. Guimarães x Porto (Portuguese League, 16th round)
0 x 2
Quaresma, Jorginho

Sunday, January 8th:
Porto x Boavista (Portuguese League, 17th round)
1 x 0
Quaresma

Wednesday, January 11th:
Naval x Porto (Portuguese Cup, 5th round)
1 x 2
Saulo; Diego, Lucho (pen)

Sunday, January 15th:
E. Amadora x Porto (Portuguese League, 18th round)
2 x 1
Maurício, Coutinho; Lucho

Saturday, January 21st:
Porto x Naval (Portuguese League, 19th round)
1 x 0
Fernando (o.g.)

Sunday, January 29st:
Rio Ave x Porto (Portuguese League, 20th round)
0 x 0

Sunday, February 6th:
Porto x Braga (Portuguese League, 21st round)
1 x 1
Lucho; João Tomás (pen)

Saturday, February 11th:
Belenenses x Porto (Portuguese League, 22th round)
0 x 2
Adriano x2

Sunday, February 19th:
Porto x Maritimo (Portuguese League, 23th round)
1 x 0
Raúl Meireles

Sunday, February 26th:
Benfica x Porto (Portuguese League, 24th round)
1 x 0
Robert

Sunday, March 5th:
Porto x Nacional (Portuguese League, 25th round)
3 x 0
Benni, Pepe, Lucho

Friday, March 10th:
Setubal x Porto (Portuguese League, 26th round)
0 x 2
Adriano, Raúl Meireles

Wednesday, March 15th:
Maritimo x Porto (Portuguese Cup, Quarter-Finals)
1 x 2
Kanu; Benni x2

Saturday, March 18th:
Porto x Paços de Ferreira (Portuguese League, 27th round)
3 x 0
Benni, Adriano, Lisandro

Wednesday, March 22nd:
Porto x Sporting (Portuguese Cup, Semi-Finals)
1 x 1 (5-4 after penalties)
Benni; Liedson

Sunday, March 26th:
Academica x Porto (Portuguese League, 28th round)
0 x 1
Hugo Almeida

Sunday, April 2nd:
Porto x Gil Vicente (Portuguese League, 29th round)
3 x 0
Cech, Quaresma, Ibson

Saturday, April 8th:
Sporting x Porto (Portuguese League, 30th round)
0 x 1
Jorginho

Friday, April 14th:
Porto x União de Leiria (Portuguese League, 31st round)
1 x 0
Adriano

Saturday, April 22th:
Penafiel x Porto (Portuguese League, 32th round)
0 x 1
Adriano (pen)

Sunday, April 30th:
Porto x V. Guimarães (Portuguese League, 33rd round)
3 x 1
Lucho x2, Adriano; Antchouet

Saturday, May 6th:
Boavista x Porto (Portuguese League, 34th round)
1 x 1
Paulo Jorge; Lisandro














Top Scorers:

Lucho 12
Lisandro 8
Adriano 7
Benni 5
Hugo Almeida 5
Quaresma 5







Done!
I'll be updating the info on this first page whenever justified.


This will be a bright season for us m8s, I can feel it :sun:



FORÇA PORTO!
:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

awesome job there Massive, couldn't have done it myself (seriously i couldn't, did u see th horrible job i did on the old thread, lol)

Glad you liked it, I did my best :p


Btw people, if there's any transfer rumour I've missed, please let me know so that I can add it to the first post.

The confirmed transfers must be published at the club's site or at uefa.com, I think you agree on this one.


The Sokota deal is being talked again on the press.
Deep sh't if it really comes to happen, it's all I have to say :kader:

And the Leo Lima going to Flamengo rumour is getting stronger..
I say we should loan the guy, he's had few chances here and I liked his football with Maritimo.

Amdy Faye I'm gonna help INFESTA on this one:

- Seitaridis is leaving to Dinamo Moscow aswell, for 10 million €

- Carlos Alberto's been with Corinthians since December/January, undisclosed fee I guess

- N. Valente will stay with us next season yeah, and I don't see him moving to a better club in the future because of his age (~30)

- Fabiano was nicknamed "Fabulous" in Brazil, he was on a 2nd line of strikers in the Brazil NT, behind Ronaldo and Adriano, at the time we bought him..should have been a good buy, but unfortunately nothing went well for him at the club.
R. Oliveira is a great player, but at that time he was rated behind Fabiano for sure....

- Confirmed transfers so far:

Players IN
Lucho Gonzalez (Midfielder, River Plate/Argentinian NT)
Lisandro Lopez (Striker, Racing)

Players OUT:
Costinha, Maniche, Seitaridis (Dinamo Moscow)

- Ibson will have a bright future: he's young, skilled, and humble.



Hope I've helped ;)

Thanks for that mate, yea you've helped :)

Seitaridis.. Damn.. Why's he goin there too? Do Moscow have some sort of agreement? Is he part of the deal of is it just a co-incidence? So that means Moscow are spendin a hella lot of money for those 3 players eh.

Carlos Alberto Corinthians eh.. Hows he doin there and that's with Tevez right? I never even heard when Tevez moved, how come he moved there anyway? (Tevez) I would of thought his next move would of been with a big european club maybe? Does Carlos Alberto still get call-ups for the Brazil team, or has this affair just made him go a bit downhill?

Valente, that's cool never knew he was 30! He did well in Euro has he done well since?

Fabiano, yea I see what your saying but who knows he could come along eh, but if he doesnt will he be sold?

What are Gonzalez and Lopez like? Is Gonzalez tricky like say ... The Sevilla Adriano?

Im sure i'l be hearing of Ibson soon then.

So Diego's gonna be the main man next year I take it?

Cheers bud!

Amdy Faye:

- Seitaridis must be going for the money, as Maniche did...it's the only plausible reason.
Dinamo have already bought half a team of portuguese players, or brazilians that were playing in the SuperLiga, don't ask me why :p
So, they've spent 30 million € on the 3 players (Seitaridis, Maniche, Costinha).

- C. Alberto usually plays with Corinthians, he's one of their stars together with...Tevez.
C. Alberto I think never got any call-ups to Brazil while he was playing for us, and isn't having them now with Corinthians...but he will soon, he has tremendous talent.

- N. Valente had been injured for almost the entire season :(
He'll be back on track as long as his phsyical condition is good.

- Fabiano will most definitely leave, probably to Sevilla.
I wouldn't mind giving him another chance here though, but that is not likely to happen.

- I never saw Lisandro Lopez play, so I can't tell you much about his game now..Just know he's still quite young (22).
Lucho is a regular Argentinian NT starter, he has lots of skills.
He's like a #8 player, likes to have the ball on his feet to provide scoring chances but doesn't let go of the defense when needed...I find him to be very usefull especially now with Maniche leaving.

- Diego's gonna explode! He just needs the team to do well and all of his talent will rise. This kid has everything to be a world class player, and will become one. Mark these words ;)

Ah, the new crib...
Looks great, Mass. Gonna have some fun in here :)

Cheers for the info bud.

Lol that's a bit of a co-incidence that Fabiano may go to Seville when we were speaking about Oliveira, that'd be a good partnership, definately on paper anyway.

So the future doesn't look so grim for Porto, if Diego does make it big then that'll be brilliant and you guys will probably forget the likes of Maniche and Costinha.

So Seitaridis, why do they want him? He didn't have the best season right?

yes, and helton and sokota are confirmed too...

lucho gonzalez scored a great goal this week...if he plays like he's been playin over here, he and diego will tare portuguese defences down:rockman::rockman:

:ewan:

yeah, the Dragon's new crib Tajike (H)....hopefully this season will give us many reasons to smile :jap:

Cheers for the info bud.

Lol that's a bit of a co-incidence that Fabiano may go to Seville when we were speaking about Oliveira, that'd be a good partnership, definately on paper anyway.

So the future doesn't look so grim for Porto, if Diego does make it big then that'll be brilliant and you guys will probably forget the likes of Maniche and Costinha.

So Seitaridis, why do they want him? He didn't have the best season right?


m8, Fabiano may be going to Sevilla FC, not Real Betis from Sevilla where Oliveira is :p

Seitaridis, even after having a poor season, has got the attention of the football world because of his amazing Euro2004 performances.
Before he came to Porto, Real Madrid were very interested in him, but we managed to secure his services in time.
So I guess that people still rate him as being a very good SB, hell, even I still do and I'me a Porto fan (6)
I'm disappointed he left, but the fee was indeed very good for the club.....


I hope we have a good season again, I miss us shocking the world of football(H)

yes, and helton and sokota are confirmed too...

links for the confirmed transfers, do you have them?
it has not been confirmed on the club's site or uefa.com.....so they are just strong rumours, right?

Nice thread Massive :P

I posted this somewhere else, but I'll do it only once in this thread until the start of the season (concerning the transfers in the off-season):

Viana: No, thank you.
Meira: No, thank you.
Sokota: Yes, please.
I want Zé Castro, Nelson, Diogo Valente and Katsouranis.
Promote Paulo Machado, Ivanildo for good, and Vieirinha and Márcio Sousa sould be training with the A team and could make a couple of games too.

And please, sell Pepe, Leo Lima and Pitbull.

My roster for 2005/2006:

GK: Baía/Helton/Sacramento
RB: Nelson /(Bosingwa)
LB: N.Valente/Leandro
CB: J.Costa/R.Costa/P.Emanuel/Zé Castro
DMC: Katsouranis/Bosingwa/P.Machado
MC: Lucho/Ibson
OM: Diego/Bomfim/Márcio Sousa
RW: Quaresma/Vierinha
LW: Ivanildo/Diogo Valente
SC: Postiga/Lisandro/Sokota

Aren't coaches always looking for 25 players in their roster? Here you have them.

Oh,and that's 16 portuguese.... + 5 brasilians , 2 argentinianss, 1 Greek and one Croatian.
No more samba school and Co would have a lot of kids there to develope.

GK: Baía/Helton/Sacramento
RB: Nelson /(Bosingwa)
LB: N.Valente/Leandro
CB: J.Costa/R.Costa/P.Emanuel/Zé Castro
DMC: Katsouranis/Bosingwa/P.Machado
MC: Lucho/Ibson
OM: Diego/Bomfim/Márcio Sousa
RW: Quaresma/Vierinha
LW: Ivanildo/Diogo Valente
SC: Postiga/Lisandro/Sokota

Kind of a nice squad there zuppa, I just don't see Sokota playing for us, as I hate the guy :p
And I mainly agree with Nelson, D.Valente and Zé Castro coming, they are great prospects!
Pepe and Claudio should definitely leave us.. :kader:


Btw man, some time ago I sent you a PM asking you not to leave the forums...but it's unread yet (6)
Good to know you're back either way :jap:

why the hell do you want Sokota? He's crap

If it's just to piss off Benfica fans... well guess what, most are quite happy about if he does join Porto :D

Kind of a nice squad there zuppa, I just don't see Sokota playing for us, as I hate the guy :p
And I mainly agree with Nelson, D.Valente and Zé Castro coming, they are great prospects!
Pepe and Claudio should definitely leave us.. :kader:


Btw man, some time ago I sent you a PM asking you not to leave the forums...but it's unread yet (6)
Good to know you're back either way :jap:
Unread? Nope... I read it ;)
And I'm back only for occasional posts. Sort of like the last one, and the ones praising Bock and Freamunde :P

why the hell do you want Sokota? He's crap

If it's just to piss off Benfica fans... well guess what, most are quite happy about if he does join Porto :D

I see him as a new Jankauskas. Many porto fans complained about Jan, but I found him extremely usefull back on his times (ask Mourinho). Sokota won't be a starter... probably not even the 2nd option, but I think he can be usefull. I don't want another roster with 3 or 4 players fighting for only one spot, all being able to be starters like this year. I want Postiga to start, Lisandro to be the 2nd option and Sokota to the rescue :P

And no, it's not to piss off Benfica fans. I couldn't care less about it. I only care about my team.

Unread? Nope... I read it ;)
And I'm back only for occasional posts. Sort of like the last one, and the ones praising Bock and Freamunde :P

Well it's just that I usually ask for a read receipt and that PM is still considered unread.
But whatever, stay cool m8 ;)

why have Sokota when we have Hugo Almeida? who can be even more useful if you consider his heigth...Almeida can perfectly fill the 2nd or 3rd option for the attack, and can be of great help in those 2nd halfs when we need to desperatly score one

I was a fan of Hugo Almeida a few years ago... Now I see him as another Romeu. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for Porto.
And I do see some qualities in Sokota.

I would love to see Hugo Viana at FC Porto. With the options FCP has for the midfield he would be in the bench 90% of the time.
If instead, he goes to Benfica, he would play even with a broken leg.

I have to admit, I find that very hard to beleive that any Portista is actually glad to have Sokota on their side :| Sounds very insincere to me...Benfiquistas have thought he was useless and Portistas always agree and then some. Oh well, at least he'll be not scorring for you guys now.

If Sokota was smart he would have went to Braga or Guimaraes, at least there he would have been a starter and got to play in the UEFA cup. Then again, I guess going from Benfica B to warming the bench at Porto is still technically a step up. Although with our luck, he'll end up being a great player in a Porto kit after doing nothing with us....sounds familiar don't it?

Sokota was praised as the best striker in Portugal in his first year around. Did he "unlearned" to play?
He's tall, has good feet skills. He can hold the CB's of any team, he can create spaces. He's a perfect fit for a team that doens't need him to score 15 goals/season but to back up someone who does (Positga).


Oh, and I clearly remember an interview with Ricardo Carvalho, 2 years ago, on wich the reporter asked him: what was the hardest player you had to mark until now?

Guess who...

Postiga scores 15 goals a season?

oh really? :mexican:

Super Liga 2002/2003 FC Porto Jogos 28 Golos 13 (how old was he? 19?)

You all saw him in the end of this season.
Give him a coach that can give him confidence and let him start... Then we'll talk.

you benfiquistas have a very short memory. I remember all of you praising Sokota last year, even putting him in your all-star line-up ahaead of Derlei, Adriano, and McCarthy. Sokota can be a very useful player and will definately help Postiga score many goals.

Plus he scored 4 goals in 11 games for you guys this season. That isn't that bad of a scoring rate, better than Nuno Gomes that's for sure. I'll gladly welcome in Porto next season.

I see him as a new Jankauskas. Many porto fans complained about Jan, but I found him extremely usefull back on his times (ask Mourinho). Sokota won't be a starter... probably not even the 2nd option, but I think he can be usefull. I don't want another roster with 3 or 4 players fighting for only one spot, all being able to be starters like this year. I want Postiga to start, Lisandro to be the 2nd option and Sokota to the rescue :P

For that spot, you could always look for a player of your "B" team, he would not be expensive at all with wages, and he would not care about being benched, in fact he would be very proud just with the situation of being at the first team, and i believe Porto has good players at the youths, better than Sokota, that can be taking a place of a young Portuguese just because of the boring PDC attitude that it's getting so ridiculous. Why would he want Sokota? There is only one explanation, and that is to annoy us, guess what old man... WE DON'T GIVE A SH*T ABOUT SOKOTA :). Also, Sokota spent a big part of the season not playing, so his phisical conditions aren't the best.

So, to PDC keep doing Hugo Leal deals... And to the fans, keep defending him. :jambo: :)

And Paulo da Silva, yes, Sokota was very good last year.

yeah, the Dragon's new crib Tajike (H)....hopefully this season will give us many reasons to smile :jap:




m8, Fabiano may be going to Sevilla FC, not Real Betis from Sevilla where Oliveira is :p

Seitaridis, even after having a poor season, has got the attention of the football world because of his amazing Euro2004 performances.
Before he came to Porto, Real Madrid were very interested in him, but we managed to secure his services in time.
So I guess that people still rate him as being a very good SB, hell, even I still do and I'me a Porto fan (6)
I'm disappointed he left, but the fee was indeed very good for the club.....


I hope we have a good season again, I miss us shocking the world of football(H)

Haha yea sure mate, Baptista was who I got mixed up with, haha but Fabiano and Oliveira would be good. Lol mix uuuup. But yea he'd get good service at Sevilla consdering both their wingers especially Adriano are very attacking minded and arent afraid to take players on and get balls in that box. So how likely is the deal to happen? Does Fabiano want to go? Do the Porto fans want him to?

Oh and im sure I saw Carlos Alberto in a Brasil shirt, maybe it was U21's or somethin? But sheesh Brasil have got loads of players who aren't anywhere near first choice and are top class, even people like Robinho, Alberto and Oliveira, who hardly play are still there. Amazin.

We'll see though eh, I really really do hope and pray Quaresma takes off and moves to say.. The Premiership after next season, atleast with Denilson he had actually performed in World Cups etc, but Quaresma's barely played in the Champions League, I just want him to do well so he can join a top club and be a top player. But it could easily go wrong. If Porto fans had to predict, what would you say about Quaresma?

Thanks (6)

I'm not a Porto fan but I'd say Quaresma has at least 2x the talent of Diego.

Too bad he's a dipsh*t who thinks he's a star.

yes, but Diego is Brazilian...and in Portugal you can be mediocre, but as long as you've got a Brazilian passport you're a football star! (although I think Diego is much better than just mediocre, but it happens in other cases very often)

Awesome job, Massive! Thanks! :)


I posted this somewhere else, but I'll do it only once in this thread until the start of the season (concerning the transfers in the off-season):

Viana: No, thank you.
Meira: No, thank you.
Sokota: Yes, please.
I want Zé Castro, Nelson, Diogo Valente and Katsouranis.
Promote Paulo Machado, Ivanildo for good, and Vieirinha and Márcio Sousa sould be training with the A team and could make a couple of games too.

And please, sell Pepe, Leo Lima and Pitbull.


Agree 100%. In fact, I'm gonna try that out on Championship Manager. (H)

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Concerning Sokota, I think he can adapt perfectly to Postiga's playing style. The Croat is not a great player, but can be very useful. And I have a feeling he'll score against Benfica next season (you all know that is going to happen :D).
Definitely a good sign, considering he comes for free.

exactly Sokota, unlike Jank, will come free of charge

Amdy Faye:

- Fabiano probably wants to go yeah, because he's being rated sh't now here in Portugal, but to be honest I'd give him another season at the club, things could actually work out for him, who knows right?
But most of the fans want him to leave as soon as possible, at least that's the impression I have..

- Your right about C. Alberto, he was on the Brazilian NT when he was younger...I was only thinking about the main squad, can't remember any call-up for him ;)

- m8 I don't want Quaresma to go! He has loads and loads of potencial, and we should try to put his talent working for Porto, not expect it to flow on another club..
He'll probably spend, say, two more seasons with us, have a blast, and then go to England, who knows joining C. Ronaldo at ManU (H)

Cheers!

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People, about Sokota:

He's always shown to be at least useful to the team when he was at Benfica, many Benfica fans praised him, thought he was fantastic and sh't.
Then this situation came up, with the mess about his contract, and he became an unwanted player by them.

I've always thought he could be useful to a team, but never liked his style..too slow, too sh'tty with his feet, only good skills are at protecting the ball from CB's, basically...
he won't do any wonders at Porto, I'm sure of that, but I hope he does come to prove me wrong and give us many joys in the future.

BUT, Hugo Almeida would be our extra striker, if I could chose..
I don't know how someone compared him to Romeu :|


Btw, PdC has dismissed the Viana rumours already.

And Claudio could be going to Stuttgart as a part of the Meira deal :|
although he said he wants to say with Porto for the next 2/3 years..
I don't think PdC will allow him to even have a chance at the club again after the Flamengo deal collapsed the way it did.... :rolleyes:

wow O jOgo reported today that porto are after Pedro Mendes in exchange for Benni+ we get cash this time aswell. And Claudio could be on his way out to Stuttgart and we get Meira. Our team will own next season.


Just imagine:
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::Baia::::::::::::::::::: ::::::
Kromkamp::::::Meira::::::::::R.Costa::::::Leandro
::::::::::::::::::::::Pedro Mendes:::::::::::::::::::
Lucho:::::::::::::::::::Ibson::::::::::::::Quaresm a
::::::::::::::::::::::::::Diego::::::::::::::::::: :::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::Postiga:::::::::::::::::: :::::

what a team

now this time all we need is Adrianse to be a half decent coach who can make this team play some football, and we are setfor more glories in the years to come

:rockman: :rockman: :rockman:

This is one of the players I've missed the most so far.
Solid midfielder, humble, always made his job in perfection whithout being very shiny on the field....briliant player, one of the most underrated that ever left Porto!

Having said that, it must be pretty obvious that I'm absolutely thrilled with this news (H)

Plus, there are rumours about Swiss midfielder Hakan Yakin (Stuttgart own him, he's been on loan at Galatasaray) being an option for us next year..
I find him to have an extremely skilled left foot, really talented guy, the only thing not so good is his age: 28
I mean he's not old, but I just think the club should hold on to bringing young blood to the squad.

Anyway these are just rumours right, but I can't wait to see at least Mendes coming asap :jambo:

man i do hope we can get P. Mendes back! that was our worst deal last season, Mendes could have been the most important player this season in our squad if he had stayed here...let's hope he comes back...

please please please please please please please please please please please please :)

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just imagine Pedro Mendes and Ibson in our midfield (H)

whith those player´s we wcanwon evry thing that wee pay for.


"contra tudo contra todos"

whith those player´s we wcanwon evry thing that wee pay for.


"contra tudo contra todos"

That´s not right :nape: :nape: :fool:

hahaha (H)!!!

that wasn't so bright dead1 :jambo: :p

Ah, been ages ago since I've heard such brilliant news :rockman:
And can someone plz explain me why we're - yet again - after a midfielder...? Like we don't have enough of them?!? If we really need a decent lefty, then get Peixoto back!

Ah, been ages ago since I've heard such brilliant news :rockman:
And can someone plz explain me why we're - yet again - after a midfielder...? Like we don't have enough of them?!? If we really need a decent lefty, then get Peixoto back!

Peixoto?!

Not even at Guimarães he's good, he only cares about night and fame.

He's a ****.

Peixoto had a great period with Mourinho, until he got injured in that game against Marseille...i think if the coach manages to impose some discipline in him he can be of a great value in our squad

Peixoto brings Isabel Figueira with him, and that can be bad, since he's having an affair with Baía. :hump:

Peixoto had a great period with Mourinho, until he got injured in that game against Marseille...i think if the coach manages to impose some discipline in him he can be of a great value in our squad

Yes, to be honest, only a guy like Mourinho can impose discipline to him.

He's way to stupid, arrogant, and acts like he's the king of the world, believe me, he's from Taipas, and so i am, and i know enough stories from him to say that he will not become the player he was when Mourinho was in charge of Porto.

Peixoto is originally a winger not a midfielder, how the hell would he take Mendes' place?
I mean, their position on the field can't even be compared :|

Anyway Peixoto is a good prospect IMO, he only needs a strong-minded coach like Mourinho was to put him on the right track, as bmpv666's mentioned.

This season he managed to score against Benfica, so his spell with Guimaraes can't have been that bad (H)

Peixoto is originally a winger not a midfielder, how the hell would he take Mendes' place?
I mean, their position on the field can't even be compared :|

Anyway Peixoto is a good prospect IMO, he only needs a strong-minded coach like Mourinho was to put him on the right track, as bmpv666's mentioned.

This season he managed to score against Benfica, so his spell with Guimaraes can't have been that bad (H)

I was talking of Peixoto instead of Yakin, not Mendes (NOBODY can replace Mendes...) as I thought - Yakin being left-footed - Cesar would be a better *read:cheaper* choice for that position. Though I don't know if this Yakin fellow is a winger or not

@ RuiCosta: A man like Adriaanse might turn him into a star-player. Hell, he can turn anyone into a star-player... :)

EDIT...
Fresh from the press! Beware of my lousy translation as it's 1AM over here and I'm getting really sleepy...

Kromkamp wil naar Porto en baalt van AZ

1/6/2005 0 :35

EXCLUSIEF - Jan Kromkamp baalt. De international hoopte op een droomtransfer naar FC Porto. Maar de Portugese club is afgehaakt omdat AZ vasthoudt aan een zeer hoge transfersom. 'Ik ben zeer teleurgesteld.'
FC Porto is op zoek naar een nieuwe rechtsback, zeker nadat Yourkas Seitaridis vorige week verkaste naar Dinamo Moskou. De Dragoes willen Kromkamp graag inlijven, maar komen niet tot een akkoord met AZ. De Alkmaarse ploeg vraagt liefst vijftien miljoen euro voor de 24-jarige Fries. En dat vindt Porto te veel.

AZ eist de hoofdprijs omdat de club Kromkamp niet kwijt wil. Maar de speler zelf is daar niet blij mee. 'Ik ben heel erg teleurgesteld', laat hij weten aan VI.nl. 'Dit is mijn grote kans. Porto is een grote club en daar had ik graag voor willen spelen. En ik ken de trainer', verwijst hij naar Co Adriaanse.

De opstelling van AZ wekt bevreemding. Want bij de contractverlenging van Kromkamp (hij verlengde zijn verbintenis een jaar geleden tot medio 2008) had AZ afgesproken de verdediger voor een aanzienlijk lagere transfersom te laten gaan, dan de vijftien miljoen die de club nu eist.

Ook al is FC Porto vooralsnog afgehaakt, toch blijft viervoudig international Kromkamp hopen dat beide clubs er uit komen.

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Kromkamp wants to go to Porto and is disappointed by AZ

Jan Kromkamp is disappointed. The internationalk was hoping for a dream transfer. But the Portuguese club quit negotiations because AZ holds on to its very high transfer fee. 'I'm really disappointed.'
FC Porto is looking for a new RB specialy after Giourkas Seitaridis moved to Dinamo Moscow last week. Os Dragões really want to sign Kromkmp but can't agree with AZ. The Alkmarian (?) club ask no less than € 15M for the "Fries". And that's too much for Porto's liking.

AZ is demanding the main price because the club doesn't want to lose Kromkamp. But the player himself isn't happy with that. 'I'm very disappointed,' he said to vi.nl. 'This is my big opportunity. Porto is a huge club and I really want to play there. Besides, I already know the coach,' meaning Co Adriaanse.

AZ's stance in this case is very strange because during the extension of Kromkamp's contract (he extended it a year ago untill 2008) AZ promised the defender to let him go for a lower transfer sum than the 15M the club now asks.

Although FC Porto decided to stop negotiations at present time, the quadrupile (sp?) international Kromkamp still hopes both teams can come to an agreement.

Latest bit about Kromkamp: Apparently AZ are not cooperating and are asking for an unrealistic high transfer price (15 million euros). Kromkamp said: 'Dit is mijn grote kans. Porto is een grote club en daar had ik graag voor willen spelen. En ik ken de trainer.'

Translation: 'This is my big chance. Porto is a big club and I would love to have played for them. And I know the coach.'

Tajike I thought you were talking about Mendes, sorry :p, and I agree with you about him being a really great player.
Btw Yakin is a left-footed midfielder, not a winger...that's why I think he can't be "replaced" by Peixoto on the squad ;)


About Kromkamp, f'ck the AZ board.
We sold Seitaridis for 10 million €, and they want 15 for this guy..hilarious at least.
They are a small club yet, so what is it with all this cockiness trying to overprice their players :kader:

Kromkamp has every right to be pissed off, so first they tell him there would be no problems with a future transfer for a bigger club, and now they are "cutting his legs".


Greedy b'tches :nape:

the Spurs are interested in McCarthy and Pedro Mendes can be offered in exchange! iMO this is good news, though i think that Mendes plus some money would be the better deal...
link in portuguese: http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news_desp.asp?section_id=126&id_news=176224

according to Record Sokota is a Porto player for the nex season, only some minor details in the 4 year contract that need an agreement:http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=675357&idCanal=17 IMO Jankauskas version 2.0...

@ www.fcporto.ws you can see the new Porto Kits for 2005/06

they look so awesome. damn i'm buying it righht away

light blue? what the hell?

I think they're ugly and this season's were much cooler, but you're probably going to say I'm just saying that because I'm biased.

The publicity logo looks smaller though. What's with that?

For those who are unknowing: those kits AREN'T official yet. They're a photoshoped version of the new Hertha Berlin kit
Actualy, the model on whom they've pasted Postiga's head was non other than Bastürk
And to give my opinion: I don't like it (have to go on Virgo with this one), though the socks are class

lmao, those socks are so gay.

I'll wait for the official jersey then, I was liking this one except the logo of course.
I hate PT even more every second that goes by, obviously not just because of the logo, they are such a bunch of thieves :kader:


I also hope Benni goes some club other than Spurs, we can get good money for him which would be very welcome to purchase Mendes, and still keep some change.


P.S. Tá graaaande tosta aqui na InBicta (H)!!!!

Porto is interested in Cruzeiro's forward Fred, just heard now live in Sporttv. Olympique Marseille also on the race. What does this mean? No deal with Sokota? Or another brazilian to join the crew?

http://www.soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?postid=1447050

:D (C)

Porto is interested in Cruzeiro's forward Fred, just heard now live in Sporttv. Olympique Marseille also on the race. What does this mean? No deal with Sokota? Or another brazilian to join the crew?

Maybe it means that Benni is really set to leave.

I've just heard that on SportTv too, I've seen him play before and seemed great, and right now he's having a great game, Cruzeiro leading 2-0 before HT, Fred with an assist and a goal.
Not a bad player at all, don't you think so Parasol?

He can easilly come here and be a "Fabiano", but you'll never know until you try :rolleyes:



Mikey I know you can't hide forever how much you actually love Porto :hump:

Btw seeing Argel play again...the man's a true legend :rofl:

As the guy on TV's just said (and this is the one that agrees with every refereeing decision in Brazilian games, no matter how bad the call is :|):

"Com Argel se passa a bola, não passa o homem"

The real Hitman (H)

...and Fred scores another one :sun:

Mikey I know you can't hide forever how much you actually love Porto :hump:

yup. due to all their sales, ill be cheering on Porto in a couple years when theyre fighting for the Portuguese serie b title.


(i dont know what you call your second league)

yup. due to all their sales, ill be cheering on Porto in a couple years when theyre fighting for the Portuguese serie b title.


(i dont know what you call your second league)

In your dreams pal, only in your dreams.


(It's called Liga de Honra [League of Honour], now your future Porto flaming will even sound better)



Just saw on TV that Sokota has signed a 4 year contract with us tonight.


And another rumour: Alan, a winger from Maritimo.
And yes, he's brazillian too :fluffy:


EDIT to say the Sokota deal is confirmed on the club's website, available to read in portuguese only (by now).

4 years with Sokota... great news :evil:

Yeah Virgo, I'm not even close to excited with this news.

But I hope he will shut you and me up, for Porto's sake :p

i actually wouldn't mind alan coming to our team. He's a very good player. We need wingers.

I find Alan to be a good player too, I won't mind if he comes..
It's just that I'm a bit tired of brazilian guys coming to our squad :crazyboy:

I've just heard that on SportTv too, I've seen him play before and seemed great, and right now he's having a great game, Cruzeiro leading 2-0 before HT, Fred with an assist and a goal.
Not a bad player at all, don't you think so Parasol?

He can easilly come here and be a "Fabiano", but you'll never know until you try :rolleyes:



i've never followed Cruzeiro that much but tonight's game from Fred remembered me of Liedson, fast forward always looking to score or to assist his partners with good feet. Can do somethings in Europe for sure.


There is another player that i really liked in tonight's brazilian set of matches, he's from Santos, he's called Ricardo Bóvio, seemed to me a great midfielder, strong and capable of playing under pressure.

Speaking of brazilians, does luis fabiano perform well at porto?

Speaking of brazilians, does luis fabiano perform well at porto?

no

he had a very poor season, only scored 3 goals, more to the end he barelly played already...though i'd give him another chance for next season, he has already signed with another club, Seville i think..

4 years with Sokota... great news :evil:

It was so predictable, for almost a year now, that's why he played with no determination at all this season... His attitude really made me sick!

Anyway, I think it is a good signing for Porto. Many people will see that next season... Sokota is quite a good forward, with an excellent positioning, protection of the ball, good heading and shooting. He did an awesome 2003/2004 season for us and he only was so bad this year because he knew he wouldn't renew with us and was going to Porto. I'm sure we'll see a totally different Sokota in 2005/2006, unfortunately.

It's official: Porto bought Leo Lim... errr.. Pep... errr... Alan from Marítimo. And Sokota too (can be useful. The B team really needed a good striker). Not to mention Jorginho (good but not great).
Great to see the SAD learned their lesson from last season! (Y) :nape:


EDIT: Agree with Parasol - Bóvio seems to be an interesting player. But I need to see him play a couple times more to make an opinion.
So, I'm guessing everybody watched Atl. Paranaense vs Santos last night too, eh? I didn't see the 2nd half, though. Anyone knows the final result?

So, I'm guessing everybody watched Atl. Paranaense vs Santos last night too, eh? I didn't see the 2nd half, though. Anyone knows the final result?


3-2 Paranaense... Santos missed a couple of chances against a motivated Paranaense side playing at home with 10 men. 2nd leg will be all Santos.

Santos has very good players, that Bovio guy is just one of them..
I've seen him play before (I watch every brazilian game I can on TV), and he always seemed to have great strength, good positioning, and good feet.
I loved both of last night's games, thrilling stuff!
Just wish I could see Flamengo play more often :jambo:


Anyway, agreeing with INFESTA, every player that came from Maritimo to Porto sucked hard. Leo Lima didn't have many chances, but Bruno and Pepe.. :kader:
Alan will hopefully stop that curse (Y)

Plus, I am more upset with Jorginho coming to play for Porto than Sokota.
That guy doesn't have enough football for us, simple as that.
Não tem força, nem raça, e agarra-se demasiado à bola :f***:
One of the most overrated guys in portuguese football IMO.

But, I hope this one shuts me up too (H)

I dont really know what's going on in PDC's head.

but it really strikes me that you have cash to spend and you're spending it on sh*t players instead of buying proven internationals or at least young talented players.

But hey I'm not complaining, just think you should.

Alan is going to be another bust, let's face it the guy is 26 and he didn't even stood out in Maritimo's team. How the hell will he break in a first team where Quaresma doesn't have a secured spot?

Alan's been good with Maritimo man, what are you saying :rolleyes:

The issue here is if he's good enough for a team like Porto or not...again.
That's the prob with these smaller team players, they always come with something to prove at a superior level of competition..and just a few of them succeed at proving their value.

Alan's ok, but not big 3 material.. He doesn't belong at Porto anymore than Sporting or Benfica. I would have been disapointed had he signed with us, seriously.

Manduca and Silas are the best players @ Maritimo and I'm surprised none of the big 3 made an attempt at these two. Silas signed with Belenenses though, I beleive..

I'm a fan of Manduca since his Gil Vicente days. (Y) I'm fortunate to have seen him play live 2 times already, and in all of them he was easily the MoM. Still, not sure if he'd do well in any of the big 3, since his characteristics fit more a counter-attacking team. I'd rather take him than Alan, though.

since his characteristics fit more a counter-attacking team.

yeah that's true, he's still not as one-dimensional as a player like Fangueiro who's totally useless unless he's on a quick counter-attack

Update: AZ have lowered their request to 10 million euros.

Hum..still won't be low enough to convince PdC, I believe.

Porto were willing to give 5 million for the guy, but I've heard maybe we could go up to about 7, after knowing 15 million was the price tag put by AZ on the player.
And that would be a reasonable offer for a guy like Kromkamp IMO, I just hope everything works out between the clubs...for everyone's sake.

"Os adeptos do FC Porto estão comigo, especialmente os miúdos."

Claudio in O Jogo

Anyone thought about Carlos Cruz after reading this statement? :fluffy:

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Maciel will go back to U. Leiria on loan (should be sold IMO) for next season.

And there is another transfer rumour coming from Brazil:
Renato from Atletico Mineiro, an Under-20 International for his country.
What can I say....at least this one's a kid :rolleyes:


Our pre-season hotel and city are already decided:

Golden Tulip Parkhotel, in Doorwerth, Holland.
Adriaanse chose it because he thinks it is a small paradise :)

i actually wouldn't mind alan coming to our team. He's a very good player. We need wingers.


also Maciel was when you bought him, a good player for Leiria or Marítimo doesn't make him a good player for Porto standards, i think you know that.

Golden Tulip Parkhotel, in Doorwerth, Holland.
Adriaanse chose it because he thinks it is a small paradise :)

So Doorwerth will be the place where they'll hold the estagio...?
Just asking as I'm planning to visit some of the trainings

also Maciel was when you bought him, a good player for Leiria or Marítimo doesn't make him a good player for Porto standards, i think you know that.

Why don't you talk about Derlei?
He also came from Leiria and was brilliant with us, I think you know that. :hump:



Yeah Tajike that's confirmed as being the chosen place.
And I envy you for being able to attend the "small paradise" :p

i talked about Maciel cause he was more on Alan's standards. As for Derlei, anyone plays well with Mourinho.

imo porto are beggining the "let's get everybody we can" part two, come on...we've already bought what? 4, 5 players? geez....

:ewan:

7 i think.

this porto reminds me of benfica 94-95 / 95-96 getting rid of a winning team and then buying everyone they can without success.

let's hope they keep it up. They have a good coach however.

i talked about Maciel cause he was more on Alan's standards. As for Derlei, anyone plays well with Mourinho.

So you think Derlei is not a good player, it was Mourinho making all of those great performances?
Come on dude, give me a break...



All these players coming will have a chance to prove themselves to Co and us, the fans.
Co is the guy who will make our team play good, average, or bad football.
So I'll have to wait for the season to start, see them perform, and then trash-talk them if needed, or praise them if they deserve it....

A good coach always makes the difference, it's his job to take the best out of each player he has and put it together to make a strong, solid team.
And with all the talent available on the club, I believe Adriaanse can do it (Y)

So you think Derlei is not a good player, it was Mourinho making all of those great performances?
Come on dude, give me a break...(Y)


A good coach always makes the difference, it's his job to take the best out of each player he has (Y)

I think that's what Parasol was trying to say...

I wasn't relating those two sentences, because it's a bit different to compare Derlei to Maciel, or Alan to Maciel.
Has he said, Alan is on the same level of Maciel, now. But we'll see if he can turn into a Derlei, Maciel has not taken his chance.


But ::shinji:: you also think Derlei wouldn't be good without Mourinho?
I think he has proven himself enough to not let people doubt about his class ever again.



Btw, Rui Barros will be Co's assistant..great choice!
I feel sorry for Broas tho (6)

And Domingos will stop coaching the B team and will leave club too :(
F'ck, they could have given him a scout job or something, he's a Porto legend for f'cks sake :kader:

We Want To Hear Broas On TV On a Daily Basis! :jambo:


And come on, Derlei was already a proven player. Just check his stats in Leiria. I posted the best scorers' list about 2 weeks ago and he got top 3 in one of his seasons playing for Leiria. Anyone seen Maciel or Alan reach that status?

Benni McCarthy insists he is happy with life at Porto.

The South African has been linked with a move to England constantly over his career but nothing has ever materialised and the Bafana Bafana star is unfazed.

"I want to stay with Porto because I am happy with the club and the city," he told Antenna 1.

"Porto is a beautiful city and I have many friends.

"There are several clubs of the Premier League that like me but the club know what I want."

SAD wanted him out...
CoA wanted him to stay...
Guess who won :p

Co is starting to put his foot down on certain things concerning the team + he went to watch the youth game vs Boavista. All good news if you ask me... :)

Great news! (Y)
Benni is a top striker and we need him, especially if we want to have a word in the CL this year.
Having said that, I think he'll leave. Looking at the past year's experience, PdC and Company didn't look back on cashing in when a good offer was made. Besides, Co wants 2 choices for every position in the field; lets see, our strikers are Lisandro, Postiga, Hugo Almeida, Bruno Moraes and, of course, Benni. It's likely that Hugo Almeida and Moraes get loaned again, which leaves 3 blokes for 2 chairs... :S

http://www.ojogo.pt/21-105/Artigo473339.htm

wouldn't that be awesome :ewan:

http://www.ojogo.pt/21-105/Artigo473339.htm

wouldn't that be awesome :ewan:

I trust in Co on this one: if he thinks the lad can play on that spot, I'm willing to believe him

http://www.ojogo.pt/21-105/Artigo473339.htm

wouldn't that be awesome :ewan:

oh no...:nape:

I remember when I first saw Pepe playing for FCP in those friendly games in North America last summer he actually looked really solid.

Pepe is the brazilian Wes Brown

http://www.ojogo.pt/21-105/Artigo473339.htm

wouldn't that be awesome :ewan:

:|

Well, one thing's for sure: he won't be worse than when he's playing at CB. :jambo:

Pepe... Eh, that's not a name a FCP player should have. No offense intended, but really... Hoje na TVI, os palhaços Batatinha e Pepe. :lui:

Pepe... Eh, that's not a name a FCP player should have. No offense intended, but really... Hoje na TVI, os palhaços Batatinha e Pepe. :lui:

Talking about Batatinha and really off topic I don't suppose any of you has a video of that legendary moment when Companhia kicked the sh*t out of Batatinha LIVE on Batatoon with 20ish kids watching, do you? :D

Talking about Batatinha and really off topic I don't suppose any of you has a video of that legendary moment when Companhia kicked the sh*t out of Batatinha LIVE on Batatoon with 20ish kids watching, do you? :D

Uh? Say what?

I did an eMule search but got nothing of that kind...

a friend of mine watched it and said that they started an argument out of nowhere once in the middle of a show, and started insulting each other and the TVI only cut the transmission when Companhia threw a punch at Batatinha. They never did a show together after that.

There are also some rumours about an incident with that Pedro Pinto bloke (who worked on Cnn and is know on Sporttv) when he was hosting that crappy interactive show "Hugo". It seems that during one program there was this one kid who was really a terrible player and was ignoring all his advices, so in a moment of anger and frustration, Pedro Pinto said this on national Tv "DIREITA, VAI PRÁ DIREITA PÁ..." (silêncio sepulcral) *voz baixinha no background "Foda-se que o puto é burro". A week later he was gone and then he left to the Us.

There are also some rumours about an incident with that Pedro Pinto bloke (who worked on Cnn and is know on Sporttv) when he was hosting that crappy interactive show "Hugo". It seems that during one program there was this one kid who was really a terrible player and was ignoring all his advices, so in a moment of anger and frustration, Pedro Pinto said this on national Tv "DIREITA, VAI PRÁ DIREITA PÁ..." (silêncio sepulcral) *voz baixinha no background "Foda-se que o puto é burro". A week later he was gone and then he left to the Us.

GOLD!!

Vinnie Jones, I used to watch that crappy Hugo show, just for the fun of storing in a paper all of PP's calinadas. He was a monster at it :fool:
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I like Benni a lot, find him to have great skills and stuff...but he has never seemed really commited on the field, in most of the games..maybe it's just me, but hey.
So for sure, we'll have Lisandro, Sokota and Postiga on the squad.
Pretty obvious that Moraes will be loaned again. About H.Almeida, I have a feeling Co will find him useful to have in the squad, because he's a different kind of Striker, less mobile...a hitman.
But Co as launched Benni at Ajax and likes him a lot....tough decision for PdC to make, Benni's sale can give us good money but he must please the coach too :rolleyes:


Pepe trinco? NO.


Leandro will definitely stay in the squad, for what I've read (you must be thrilled with this one INFESTA :amika: ).
Bruno Alves will return from loan and will be one of our CBs... (Y)
And Areias will probably be loaned... :kader: .....just leave b'tch!

Sandro from Vitória Setúbal is the newest face in the Porto squad, making 10 new players already to sign for the new season.

Sandro!? :|


Leandro will definitely stay in the squad, for what I've read (you must be thrilled with this one INFESTA :amika: ).
Bruno Alves will return from loan and will be one of our CBs...

Bruno Alves... Don't really like him at all, despite being a Poveiro and have met him through my gf's sister. Not Porto material, imho, unless he's matured a lot in Greece.

As for our friend Leandro... lord... I read O Jogo yesterday and of course he wants to stay. He wants to stay in the same way Maciel, Pepe, Leo Lima want to stay.

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Continuando nas calinadas, alguém se lembra daquele comentador da RTP que costumava estar nos jogos do FCP (óculos, cabelo grisalho)? O Gabriel Alves era um amador ao lado dele... Lembro-me de uma vez depois do intervalo a emissão ter regressado às Antas e só se ouvia o gajo a dizer uns palavrões tipo 'o som está uma merda'... (silêncio) ... 'Ora então estamos de volta para a 2ª parte' (H)

Sandro!? :|

Prefer Sandro over Alan any day... Good signing imo

(Sandro > Alan) <<<<<< Porto

true:jap:

average. if not below it.

:ewan:

Derlei keeps scoring in Russia, this time he scored the only goal of the match making Dinamo win 1-0 against Alania.

Dynamo is still at mid table though with like half the points the top team has.. hehe, it would be so funny if Costinha, Maniche, etc ended up playing in the Russian second division next season! :nape:

i don't know if they played, but if they did it was their first match so things now can start to develop for them.

Great to see Derlei showing his class in Russia, and I hope the ex-Porto trio gets to help Dinamo grow too.
I wouldn't find it even remotely funny if they ended up playing on the Russian 2nd division :nape: they are great players and deserve the best.

I've updated the pre-season fixtures on the first page, we have three games to be played in Holland: against NEC, Bennekom (wtf?) and Vitesse.
There will be a friendly against Tottenham too (has to do with last season's Mendes deal), in August.

I'm curious to see what will Co think about some players who haven't had a real chance at the club, mainly the ones that have been on loan.
But we're still a month away from knowing that :(

And 17 year-old brazilian Anderson from Grêmio is to come to Porto or Benfica.
Jorge Mendes bought his footballing rights and will try and place him in one of the clubs. Internazionale and Palermo are also chasing him.

Eheh, not only they won't have summer holidays now but they're also moving to Russia. (H) :ewan:

I'm glad Derlei is doing well. He's one of my fave Porto players ever! He deserved more respect from everyone, including the Super-Morcões.

And 17 year-old brazilian Anderson from Grêmio is to come to Porto or Benfica.
Jorge Mendes bought his footballing rights and will try and place him in one of the clubs. Internazionale and Palermo are also chasing him.

We all know where he's going, don't we ? :nape:

Typical PDC buying.. as soon as he knows Benfica is interested in one player he does everything to buy that player, even though he might turn out to be crap or isn't needed..

What do you know about the player being wanted or not by the coach?

Get over it man, I'm kind of tired of seeing some benfiquistas here whinning again and again about that sh't.

What ? You're denying it ? It's true man you gotta admit it. PDC behaves like that, do you need some examples ? Rossato, Marco Ferreira, Ibson, Diego.. Although these 2 are really nice players. Lisandro Lopez, there's lots for you to choose from..

And i'm not whinning about anything, i don't mind him going to Porto, PDC attitude is silly that's all ..

I'm not saying that it isn't possible that PdC had only noticed some players after there were rumours about them going to the rival teams, but maybe (and I find this to be closer to the truth) it is just that the Porto board doesn't let the name of the players we're interested in appear on every sports newspapers, every single day.
So, maybe we were already interested in them before there were rumours about the rivals wanting them.

I'll never know, you'll never know :jambo:

Hope I've made my point clear.

lol Good point, but I remember PDC when some newspaper (i think it was Record) posted Marco Ferreira almost certain in Benfica, and then at 8 o'clock speacialy, when Ferreira was already a Porto player, you see PDC in his car with th front page of that same newspaper, showing it to the jornalists. It's very clear what happened to me .. And i'm not saying it isn't Benfica's SAD members and chairman's fault as well, as those informations shouldn't ever be out. This year it's a little better though., as LFV admited too.

In this specific case, I think is both things as he seems to be a very talented and promissing player but you gotta find it a little suspicious :p

In terms of signing players that Benfica and Sporting are interested, nothing tops the stupid signing of Paulo Assunção last year.
The poor guy already had 1 and a half foot on Sporting, and ended playing for AEK, after Del Neri dismised him.

Oh, come on Tiago_10, as if Benfica didn't do that for years.
It's okay for a team to stop a good player from joining a rival team. Hell, that's why Di Stefano -one of the 5 best players ever - ended up in Real Madrid instead of Barcelona.
So Paulo Assunção signed with Porto? Bohoo, like he didn't know where he was going to. He made a choice, nobody pointed a gun at his head, so no complaints in his case.

So Paulo Assunção signed with Porto? Bohoo, like he didn't know where he was going to. He made a choice, nobody pointed a gun at his head, so no complaints in his case.

I thought we were talking from the club's point of view, not the palyer's :jambo:

Oh, come on Tiago_10, as if Benfica didn't do that for years.
It's okay for a team to stop a good player from joining a rival team. Hell, that's why Di Stefano -one of the 5 best players ever - ended up in Real Madrid instead of Barcelona.

Yeah I guess it's normal, but not as intensively as PDC does. Most of the times they end up proving they're not worth buying anyways.

Great to see Derlei showing his class in Russia, and I hope the ex-Porto trio gets to help Dinamo grow too.
I wouldn't find it even remotely funny if they ended up playing on the Russian 2nd division :nape: they are great players and deserve the best.



well, their qualities are irrelevant here...and it would be indeed very funny, and even ironic to see them go to an inferior team/league just for the money then end up playing in a 2nd division. Maniche in particular, who could have gone anywhere but obviously had his judgement clouded by dollar signs..

Interesting article in O Jogo...:

Adeus futebol rendilhado

A concepção de jogo de Co Adriaanse é muito diferente das dos seus antecessores no FC Porto. O futebol que a equipa vai praticar terá pouco a ver com aquele que os adeptos estavam habituados - ou desabituados, consoante a perspectiva. Será privilegiado o futebol directo e o jogo rápido pelas alas. Sempre ao ataque

Pelo que se conhece de Co Adriaanse, é possível descrever desde já o tipo de futebol que o novo FC Porto vai praticar. E será um futebol diferente daquele que os adeptos portistas estão habituados a ver, quase sempre embelezado pelo perfume brasileiro, com muitos toques na bola até ela chegar à baliza adversária. Com Adriaanse haverá um futebol directo e rápido, jogado pelos flancos e fundamentado nas constantes trocas de posições entre os jogadores.

Manuel Bravo da Silva, o português radicado na Holanda que conhece bem Co Adriaanse, ajudou a tentar perceber como actuam as equipas do ex-técnico do AZ Alkmaar, a começar pelos sistemas tácticos, que são fundamentalmente dois: o 4-3-3, que passa a um 3-4-3 quando a equipa tem a bola, graças à subida de um defesa para o meio-campo; e um 4-4-2 losango, de certa forma parecido com aquele que José Mourinho utilizava no FC Porto. "O sistema adoptado sê-lo-á em função do adversário. Na Holanda todas as equipas jogam ao ataque e por isso o Co Adriaanse não mudava muito o sistema, era quase sempre o 3-4-3", revela Bravo da Silva, ressalvando, no entanto que, até haver confiança e à vontade nesse novo esquema, o FC Porto deverá ser jogar no inicial 4-3-3.

A forma de jogar é que será diferente, independentemente do desenho. Por exemplo, a bola nunca deverá circular lentamente, sendo necessário o passe rápido, forte e colocado, de maneira a dar um andamento vivo ao jogo. O passe nunca deverá ser efectuado na direcção do jogador, mas dois ou três metros mais à frente, para poupar tempo no trajecto invariável da bola até chegar à baliza contrária. A boa recepção de bola é fundamental. Também as fintas passam a ser menos necessárias, sendo privilegiado o futebol directo e em progressão, em antítese ao futebol muitas vezes praticado por portugueses e brasileiros, com passes para o lado e sem grande progressão no campo.

O jogo mental também é utilizado pelo treinador holandês. De acordo com Manuel Bravo da Silva, "Co Adriaanse ataca quando menos se espera e defende quanto todos contam que ataque". "É uma forma de surpreender os adversários. Muitas vezes ataca com quatro avançados". A liberdade organizativa é dada a vários jogadores e não só a um, da mesma forma que há uma constante troca de posições, com os médios a aparecerem no ataque, beneficiando da subida da defesa para apoiar o meio-campo. O grande segredo de Co Adriaanse é o jogo colectivo.


Destaques

- o sistema inicial deve ser o 4-3-3

- numa fase posterior, o objectivo é que a equipa evolua para o 3-4-3

- passe rápido e sempre para a frente

- um ponta-de-lança fixo, alto e bom no jogo aéreo

- trocas de posições constantes entre os três médios e os restantes avançados

- o guarda-redes deve actuar como líbero, nas costas dos três defesas

- não há um "dez" organizador de jogo: a bola passa por toda a equipa

- a função de trinco é exercida por um dos centrais, que sobe para o meio-campo quando a equipa tem a bola

- é esse jogador que inicia a distribuição do jogo ofensivo

- obrigatório: todos os jogadores têm de saber defender e de o fazer sempre

i like what i read

A Bola says Blackburn Rovers have offered 8 million € for Benni McCarthy. That matches the release clause so Porto can't reject it.

It's all up to the player now.

only one thing to ask: what has won Co Adriaanse before?

what did Mourinho win before coming to Porto?Don't be an asshole.

Mourinho was an assistant manager of Bobby Robson and Louis Van Gaal winning some things before getting to porto, if you don't remember how he started.

i just asked question and you called me an "asshole"... that's great, shows great class :rockman:

stop acting like scp1906, parasol.

okay, now i can't ask anything.

Thanks for the article, Tajike. What can we say? So far so good, but it's only words so far. Can't wait to see Co's team in action!

Virgo, are you sure Benni's release clause is that low? 8M for a proven forward sounds like almost for free. Besides, we payed more money to buy him didn't we? So it is a bit stupid to fix a low value in his release clause...

Parasol, save dumb questions for the Record forums, mate. But here's your answer: I hope he is coming with a great desire to be successful and win trophies.

okay, now i can't ask anything.


u can ask any question you want, as long as u ain't trying to start ****, which u were. Don't go acting all innocent.

Plus i didn't call u an asshole, i said don't be like one. Totally different

I HOPE THAT HE WILL BRING PORTO AGAIN TO THE TOP!!!

a 3-4-3 wow
very offensive :)

Baía as a líbero? :|

Baia already acts like a libero. That's why i'm not worried about that

as i did on the other thread, i just copy pasted this from a blog:



Treinador: Co Adriaanse (1ª época, holandês, AZ Alkmaar).

Entradas: Hélton (guarda-redes, brasileiro, União Leiria), Paulo Ribeiro (guarda-redes, Vitória Setúbal), Bruno Alves (defesa-central, AEK Atenas), Sandro (médio defensivo, Vitória Setúbal), Paulo Assunção (médio defensivo, brasileiro, AEK Atenas), Luis 'Lucho' González (médio interior, argentino, River Plate), Jorginho (médio ofensivo, brasileiro, Vitória Setúbal), Alan (extremo, brasileiro, Marítimo), Bruno Moraes (avançado, brasileiro, Vitória Setúbal), Lisandro 'Licha' López (avançado, argentino, Racing Club), Tomo Sokota (avançado, croata, Benfica B), Hugo Almeida (avançado, Boavista).

Saídas: José Couceiro (treinador), Nuno Espírito Santo, Seitaridis (Dinamo Moscovo), Costinha (Dinamo Moscovo), Maniche (Dinamo Moscovo), Cláudio Pitbull, Luis Fabiano (Sevilha).

Possíveis Entradas: Jan Kromkamp (lateral-direito, holandês, AZ Alkmaar), Cicinho (lateral-direito, brasileiro, São Paulo), Nélson (lateral-extremo direito/esquerdo, cabo-verdiano, Boavista), José Castro (defesa-central, Académica), Marcos António (defesa-central, brasileiro, Gil Vicente), Fernando Meira (defesa-central/médio defensivo, VfB Estugarda), Danny Landzaat (médio defensivo/centro, holandês, AZ Alkmaar), Pedro Mendes (médio centro, Tottenham Hotspurs), Hugo Leal (médio centro, Académica), João Alves (médio centro/interior direito, Sp. Braga), Hugo Viana (médio interior esquerdo/médio ofensivo, Sporting via Newcastle), Marco Ferreira (extremo-direito, Vitória Guimarães), César Peixoto (extremo-esquerdo, Vitória Guimarães), Diogo Valente (extremo-esquerdo, Boavista), Fred (avançado, brasileiro, Cruzeiro).

Possíveis Saídas: Bruno Vale (Estrela Amadora/União Leiria), Pepe, Areias (Boavista/Belenenses), Leandro, Raul Meireles (AEK Atenas), Paulo Machado (Estrela Amadora), Léo Lima, Benni McCarthy (Newcastle/Tottenham/Blackburn).


lots of new signings and rumours too.

A question to all Portistas on this board...

Are you liking PDC policy with this and last year signings, i mean with the quantity of players that get in and out constantly?

A question to all Portistas on this board...

Are you liking PDC policy with this and last year signings, i mean with the quantity of players that get in and out constantly?

No.
I'm terribly disapointed.
And I have absolutely no faith at all dor next season.

And I hope I'm wrong, but Co will last only until Xmas...

His 4*3*3 turning into a 3*4*3 style is not for Portuguese football. Not at all.... He doesn't even play with a "Nº10". Last one to do that? Del Neri, the wonder coach from Chievo. Using a CB to start the offensive runs is suicide in Portugal (specially if he does it wht Pepe). He has two choices: adapt the players to his style and fail miserably, or adapt his style to the players. And from what I've been reading of his interviews, he'll be doing the first option.

Sorry Portistas folks, that's just my opinion... when I saw Alan, Sandro,etc.. getting bought I understood imediatly that we won't have a chance next year. The SAD did not learn (or didn't wanted to learn) from past mistakes.

BTW, I can only laugh with one thing. Co wants a 3*4*3 with the right/left back turining into Centrals when the team has the ball. Do you want to have a right/left back with less than 1m80 then? No. Wh did we have to the right side who could play very well as a CB? Giourkas. And now what? Buying Kromkamp? He's not gonna cost less than 7/8 mill + salaries + all the money that goes into the "empresarios" pocket (you all know that's how it works)... For a player that we don't know if he will adapt? Giourkas played as a CB in the Euro...

Oh wait... get Cicinho, another cheap brasilian wonder kid with 1m70... how good he'll be playing as a CB!! 1M70cm FFS!!!! Didn't we learn with Ibarra?? At least Areias will stay (I know everyone seems to hate him, but he always did a good job defending when he was called, and he CAN play as a CB if needed.

It's sad to see the SAD destroying my club.

I hear you, zuppa, and your concerns are my concerns. All these names coming in and out of the club have to do with 2 things: the money we got from 2 very successful seasons and, as you mentioned, the deals with 'empresários'. Some people can't have too much money on their pockets, and PdC seems to be one of them. He already showed us that in the past, then last year, and now again. He did to our team what Benfica did to their championship winning team back in 94 - dismantled it completely. The only names that still stand are Jorge Costa and Vítor Baía. Why? Well, obviously bcs they're old, otherwise I'm sure they too would have been shipped to Russia!

I seem to be more optimistic with Co, though. He's said to be an organizer and a discipline-enforcer - 2 things we were short of this past season. All he has to do is make the players believe in him; make them believe that if everyone follows his path with his rules they'll achieve success; in other words, a leader. If he is one, we might survive the constant errors our SAD has been making in these past 2 years.

I know we should advertise olther sites, but this is a very nice one with useful information and opinions about FCPorto future players, mainly B team ones!

I found that Porto has just signed with a Luso-canadian youngster, captain of the Canadian U17 NT named Michael Pereira.


Here's part of the text if u r to lazy to visit it!

"Another Londoner heading to a soccer-crazy country shortly is Michael Pereira. The 16-year-old phenom, who plays with Canada's under-17 team, has signed a contract with 2004 Portuguese champion FC Porto's development team. He leaves for Portugal at the end of July for "a new life." Pereira was courted by some big-time soccer clubs, including Newcastle and Sporting, and chose Porto because he has relatives nearby. The player, who speaks Portuguese, also liked the package the team offered. That includes $700 a month as well as expenses, and enrolment in a private international school."


link to the site - click here (http://www.esperancaportista.blogspot.com/)

Seems to be an interesting site m8 ;)

A promising kid coming to Porto, and he's not Brazilian. Good stuff :jap:

Btw this Anderson...has any of you ever seen him play on any of those 20 matches for Gremio?
People and newspapers say wonders about him, but I don't even have a clue.
Young blood at least, keep them coming :rockman:

Adriaanse is supposed to be good at evaluating and developing young players mainly because of his work at Ajax, and I'm pretty confident he'll keep it up at Porto.
It'd be beautiful (although unlikely) to have an average age of at most 22 on the team, and still get good performances and results out of it.

I'm kind of anxious to see the squad Co will chose to start the season....
anyway....

....Summerrrrrrrrr Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime :sun:

Nuno Espirito Santo, another one to Dinamo Moscow.

Did you know that in 2004, FC Porto payed more money to him than to Vitor Baía?

Looks like ANDERSON is set to sign with us.

This is an interesting opinion I collected in the Record forums:

É só Krakes... Fabiano e Diego tb são geniais!?!?!?! É outro que daqui a um ano vai para Rússia ou é recambiado... mais um barrete que o Mendes enfia ao PC.... igual ao Hugo Leal ou Léo Lima?!?!?!?! Graças ao Mendes a equipa está toda destruída... Ele negociou a saída do Mourinho, Paulo Ferreira, Ricardo Carvalho, Deco, Costinha, Maniche, Derlei, Carlos Alberto e convenceu o PC a trocar o Pedro Mendes pelo Postiga..... está podre de rico... à custa da insanidade do PC...

Don't agree with everything, but one wonders how much Porto benefited with the relationship with this Mendes dude...

Rumours r the greatest thing on this period... but some say that a "european star" is arriving to Dragão, if he's good ok, but i wanna see waht will Co Ad. do with such a numerous squad!

In my opinion we still need 1 or 2 RB's and a DM (trinco)!

you got Lucho and Meireles for the DM position so do you really think you still need a DM? And probably Quaresma goes to the defense just to fit all the stars in the starting 11 lol

None of them is trully a DM, they can play like that but i'm talking about "trincos", Costinha style see?

And dont worry we wont need to put the magic gipsy on the RB!

sure you don't, you have that special place for him on the bench :p

on the papers today is the last try for kronkamp

Bench is a good place for him, it just shows how good our options are! :rockman:


Dont trust the papers man...

i don't trust them, they just keep us entertained

Rumours r the greatest thing on this period... but some say that a "european star" is arriving to Dragão

You know what, that gives me chills. :(
Somehow I see another overpriced ''star'' arriving to take a nice holiday in sunny Portugal. That's the opposite of what Mourinho defended - young talented players with everything to prove.

Anyway: Lucho, Diego, Meireles, Anderson, Leo Lima, Leandro do Bonfim, etc... too much cats for one craddle, imho. Our planning has been total **** for the second year in a row. :mad:

Rumours r the greatest thing on this period... but some say that a "european star" is arriving to Dragão, if he's good ok, but i wanna see waht will Co Ad. do with such a numerous squad!

In my opinion we still need 1 or 2 RB's and a DM (trinco)!

K, it's prolly going to be a forward (as BenniMac is kinda sure to leave), he is a European "estrela" and has Portuguese experience...
Why am I scared it's going to be Pauleta? :(

Why am I scared it's going to be Pauleta? :(

PAULETA!? PAULETA!? PAULETA!?


FODA-SE! Nem a brincar! :f***:


If he joins us, here's FCP's probable line-up up front:

RM: Quaresma
AM: Lucho
LM: Diego
F: :sb9:

But seriously, it won't be Pauleta. It CAN'T be Pauleta. And he doesn't have Superliga experience. And to call it 'portuguese experience' to someone who's portuguese is a bit akward, to say the least, so no, it's not him.

hope it isn't Pauleta!! it would be 1 million times better to keep Fabiano instead!! :kader:

i'm not liking all this signings, we used to sign few players, and we used to keep the "kernel" of the squad from one season to the other (ok, there were one or two changes..). last season and this season we have signed so many new players that it gets really hard to keep track of them all! we are looking like Benfica was a few years ago, and i'm not liking it...

lastest rumour: Cicinho told the press that he is in negotiations with FC Porto...now we only need some female brazilians, and next Carnaval Porto can have it's own car in Rio's sambódromo :lui:

Mourinho was an assistant manager of Bobby Robson and Louis Van Gaal winning some things before getting to porto, if you don't remember how he started.

I thought Mourinho was merely a translator for those managers. They made the decisions, not Mourinho.

Anyway Adriaanse hasn't won any major prizes so far, true. But he has helped mid-table club Willem II Tilburg reach the CL, and he has helped sub-top club AZ Alkmaar reach the the UEFA cup semi-final, and breaking the reign of the the traditional three dutch topclubs Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV.

but when he went to a top club like ajax guess what happened to him? :ewan:


also i don't think it is Adriaanse who is choosing the players to buy, either that or he is buying them by tape, because porto signed some players before he was even signed and now they keep buying brazilians, that i doubt he has ever heard anything from them. keep on wasting your millions, porto :lui:

lastest rumour: Cicinho told the press that he is in negotiations with FC Porto...

God, him too? :nape:
I haven't been the least impressed with his 2 performances in the Confederations Cup. I'm sure they're asking millions for his pass.

Mourinho was just a translator when Robson came to Portugal for Sporting. When Mourinho worked with Robson in Porto/Barcelona and with Van Gaal, he had other kind of competencies. It´s obvious that he wasn´t just a translator and the fact that both Robson and Van Gaal aren´t surprised with his success and vouch for his capabilities proves that. In Robson´s case it was obvious that Mourinho was the number two in his coaching staff.

Btw i heard on Jornal da Tarde that Porto has 12 brazilians. Why not change the name for Clube Esporte do Porto? Im so sad to see this in a club like Porto that has my utmost respect. Specially when there are players like Vierinha, Márcio Sousa or Bruno Gama waiting for a chance. Porto used to be one of the pilars of our National team. At this rate it´s more probable to see Carlos Alberto Parreira at the Dragão watching players than Scolari himself.

It's only a matter of time until someone does an altered version of our flag, with Porto's crest on top of a brazilian flag... And it's deserved.
I honestly don't know what's happening. Nobody hear has a clue, but we're all pretty much like this -> :|
Like you said, I HATE seeing great, young, talented players - the kind that could grant us big revenue in the long term - feeded to smaller clubs, while we're wasting money on craques of the like of Fabiano.

PdC of 10 years ago would be furious to see what the contemporary PdC is doing to the team's mística.

but when he went to a top club like ajax guess what happened to him? :ewan:

He got fired by Ajax. Way, way, way too early. Everyone in Holland recognizes that now. Bad move on Ajax's part.

I believe that Co is a good coach. I saw Az Alkamaar play multiple times this year and they seemed like a very organized team with a highly developed tactical setup. Before Co signed, i remember i made this long esay in this thread about the positive aspects of signing him. The problem is that i heard that Adriaanse likes to have a word about the transfer policy and the players that the club signs and by the looks of the recent market moves, i don´t think the he is having any influence on that at all. Let´s wait and see, he looks like he has the capability of running a club like Porto but let´s see how his adaptation to our football works.

Luis de Abreu Oliveira, an absolute GENIUS with the ball at his feet, has been signed by FC Porto from Gremio for 5 M Euros. Gremio will ALSO get 30% of the player's transfer fee on his NEXT transfer away from Porto.

He has agreed to a 3 year contract with Porto as well.

This is an _AWESOME_ buy for Porto, if anybody has the clips of this guy, please post them. I've watched him play probably six or seven times on TV and he has been DAZZLING every time.

yeah, we've already known this for almost a week now..

Alright, settle down, gook.

Rony dado como certo no Dragão
É ponta-de-lança, joga no ASA de Alagoas (Brasil) e já marcou 18 golos esta época. Os brasileiros, incluindo presidente do clube e o próprio jogador, garantem que é reforço do FC Porto e a viagem para Portugal está marcada para 10 de Julho, véspera do início do estágio dos dragões
RICARDO NUNO FIDALGO


A notícia começou por ser dada pela Imprensa brasileira: o ponta-de-lança Rony, do ASA de Alagoas, viajará para Portugal mal termine o Campeonato Alagoano, com destino ao FC Porto. Sem poder adiantar pormenores do negócio, que terá sido tratado directamente pelo representante do jogador com os responsáveis portistas, Moisés Machado, presidente do ASA, confirmou a O JOGO o acordo com os dragões para a transferência.

Rony, de 23 anos, é o típico avançado de área e tem fama de goleador. Na época em curso já marcou por 18 vezes, assumindo-se como artilheiro do ASA e um dos melhores marcadores do campeonato alagoano (13 golos nesta competição). A data apontada como provável para a sua vinda para Portugal (10 de Julho) pressupõe que o clube jogue até à jornada limite da prova, mas até pode acontecer que o ASA ganhe o campeonato e termine a competição amanhã, caso consiga anular a desvantagem de 2-0 com o Coruripe. A confirmar-se essa possibilidade, o jogador estaria em Portugal a tempo da apresentação do plantel ao trabalho.

Formado no Grémio de Porto Alegre, Rony, natural de Xenxerê (Rio Grande do Sul), passou também por Criciúma, Figueirense, Atlético de Ibirama e Caxias. Diz quem o conhece que em todos estes clubes marcou um número considerável de golos, assumindo-se sempre como um dos principais artilheiros.

B.I.


Nome: RONY Linhares
Idade: 23 anos
Naturalidade: Xenxerê (Rio Grande do Sul - Brasil)
Altura: 1,80m
Peso: 77kg
Posição: ponta-de-lança
Clube actual: ASA de Alagoas
Clubes anteriores: Grémio de Porto Alegre, Criciúma, Figueirense, Atlético de Ibirama e Caxias.






OH FFS! Who the **** is this one now?

If this rumour is also true, I wont be in a single game this season.


FU SAD!

another member for the samba team :lui:


b team material, me thinks

with 23 years, I doubt he'll come to the b-team :( :nape:

Alright, settle down, gook.

gook? Oh, that's a racial slur. I think I'ma make you go the way of the do-do.. :ewan:

We'll be playing vs Club Brugge on July 23th
Surtenly gonna get me some tickets :)

FC Porto - Club Brugge & FC Porto - Boca Juniors: gonna be one hell of a summer :rockman:

will be a shame if Palermo doesn't come, Jorge Costa would have some fun with him

Hey!
Been kind of away due to Summer reasons (H) but when I can I find some time to update the info on the first page, with the fixtures and other stuff.

Who the f'ck is that Rony guy, it was obviously a sick joke from the press :rolleyes:

From what I've read lately on the papers, there's still a RB to be added to the squad..and that must be IT, or else Co will have a heart attack when trying to decide who will make it into the 32 lot he'll take to Holland.
Personally, I'd just take Nelson who must be kind of cheap, and tell AZ and S. Paulo to f'ck off together with their demandings and cockiness.
S. Paulo was asking 12 million € for Cicinho :hump: - and I wouldn't want him at the club anyway.

Btw, out of the players available right now, I'd chose these 25 to take part of the squad:

GK: Baía, Helton, B. Vale.
DF: (?), (Bosingwa); N. Valente, Leandro; J. Costa. P. Emanuel, R. Costa, B. Alves.
MF: R. Meireles, Ibson, Sandro, (Bosingwa); Lucho, Diego, Anderson.
FW: Quaresma, Alan; Ivanildo, C. Peixoto; Lisandro, Postiga, Sokota, H. Almeida.

I'm confident Co will pick them well :jambo:



Before I go, I leave you with my choice for quote of the week:

"Não encontro explicações para ter deixado de jogar"

by Areias

:rofl: :rofl:


Areias, you suck :ewan:




Cheers m8s.

All of us Portistas should read today's interview with McCarthy in A'Bola.
Although it's a tough reading for Porto fans it says only the truth! Benni wants to leave and I'd do exactly the same in his shoes. He talks about the problems inside the SAD, and boy, what a mess is going there...

Porto is being destroyed by people that don't care anything about the club, and the worse is that it's all coming from inside our own club.

Benni... respect!


"- Porquê tanta determinação em abandonar o FC Porto?
- Porque há pessoas na SAD que me obrigam a tomar esta iniciativa. Não digo os nomes, porque não gosto de apontar o dedo a ninguém, tanto mais que se o fizesse estaria a descer ao nível de muitos dos que me acusaram de tudo e mais alguma coisa, mas os directores em causa, sabem bem de quem estou a falar. Foram-me atiradas à cara críticas incríveis, duríssimas. Disseram-me, um dia, que para o FC Porto eu já não existia, era como se lá não estivesse. Tentaram humilhar-me... Só faltou chamarem-me bêbado, com as letras todas. De resto fui acusado de tudo. Se não fosse tão forte psicologicamente, nesta altura seria um farrapo, estaria morto para o futebol... Aguentei muita coisa, mas agora não estou para aguentar mais. Tenho de ir embora, definitivamente."

And MaSsiVe, Areias doesn't suck. ;) Really, I keep my own opinion that he's a good defender and I want him in the roster for next year (please sell Leandro... please please please, and keep Areias!).

McCarthy to Benfica NOW!!!!!! :rockman: pleaseeeeee! :)

All of us Portistas should read today's interview with McCarthy in A'Bola.
Although it's a tough reading for Porto fans it says only the truth! Benni wants to leave and I'd do exactly the same in his shoes. He talks about the problems inside the SAD, and boy, what a mess is going there...

Porto is being destroyed by people that don't care anything about the club, and the worse is that it's all coming from inside our own club.

Benni... respect!


"- Porquê tanta determinação em abandonar o FC Porto?
- Porque há pessoas na SAD que me obrigam a tomar esta iniciativa. Não digo os nomes, porque não gosto de apontar o dedo a ninguém, tanto mais que se o fizesse estaria a descer ao nível de muitos dos que me acusaram de tudo e mais alguma coisa, mas os directores em causa, sabem bem de quem estou a falar. Foram-me atiradas à cara críticas incríveis, duríssimas. Disseram-me, um dia, que para o FC Porto eu já não existia, era como se lá não estivesse. Tentaram humilhar-me... Só faltou chamarem-me bêbado, com as letras todas. De resto fui acusado de tudo. Se não fosse tão forte psicologicamente, nesta altura seria um farrapo, estaria morto para o futebol... Aguentei muita coisa, mas agora não estou para aguentar mais. Tenho de ir embora, definitivamente."


Eh, funny because I came here to talk about that interview and you beat me to it. Agree 100% with you and Benni. What can we say? It's a shame how he's treated by those who should defend him in the first place. Besides, Benni's our most valuable asset, the best player in our roster BY FAR. And I mean BY FAR. Just look at his numbers. In a season plagued by disappointing performances he was the only one able to perform at his level.

Btw, do you guys know who is the most expensive Porto player ever? Helder Postiga. Do you guys know who'll be the new record-holder? Kronkamp, if he does come. This pretty much speaks for itself.

::shinji::, I'd be surprised if he stays in Portugal. Our SAD deserves a happy Benni scoring goals for our biggest rival, but fortunately won't happen.

shame how Porto treated most of their CL winning team especially Benni and Derlei.

zuppafly I don't like his football since he was at Beira-Mar.
If he gets to prove me wrong at Porto, I'll be more than glad for him and the club...
till then..Areias, you suck! :p

I agree with the two of you and with Benni too obviously, he was in fact a player that deserved more respect for what he's put out on the field for us.
He may be a malandro, but the truth is that he was very important with Mourinho, showing his class whenever the team needed him.
Although he sometimes seems to have a mind of a child, the man's hugely talented.
One of the best players I've seen at Porto, ever.

Virgo pointed out Derlei, who left by kind of the same reasons...I didn't understand or accept him leaving as I do now for Benni.
Derlei always showed tremendous heart, and he really loved the shirt he wore, so I was really surprised and sad when he left.
About Benni, his departure was obvious for me after he started to play with his elbows :f***:

Btw, f'ck Benni going to Benfica ::shinji:: :(

___________________________________________

I found this article to be really funny:

"Mais detalhes da entrevista de Scolari ao jornal online "Maisfutebol", desta vez tirados do capítulo dedicado à ficção científica. Se o leitor não a leu, aconselho-o a engolir esse último pedaço de torrada. Agora acabe a meia de leite. Certificou-se de que o esófago está desimpedido? Então siga. O seleccionador nacional diz que já "deve" ter assistido a dez ou doze jogos no Estádio do Dragão, onde até agora todos pensávamos - incluindo o FC Porto, como pude confirmar - que ele não tinha o hábito de lá pôr os pés. Se não for a aldrabice mais desavergonhada, irresponsável e sem escrúpulos da história, sendo que não tenho o hábito de tomar as pessoas por mentirosas (nem por estúpidas, já agora), é um mistério impenetrável: Scolari esteve uma dezena de vezes no Dragão absolutamente incógnito. Nenhum convite foi pedido, nenhum porteiro deu por ele, nenhum adepto o viu, nenhum VIP o cumprimentou, nenhuma fonte deu com a língua nos dentes, nenhum jornalista registou e, o que é mais curioso, a Federação prescindiu da habitual informação à Imprensa, como esta, de Maio:

"O Seleccionador Nacional, Luiz Felipe Scolari, irá observar esta tarde o dérbi entre SL Benfica e Sporting CP, no Estádio da Luz".

Ou esta:

"Luiz Felipe Scolari estará na quarta-feira à noite em Alvalade para assistir à final da Taça UEFA".

Posta de parte, como escrevi, a hipótese de estarmos perante a patranha mais descarada e ultrajante desde a invenção do "wonderbra", porquê o secretismo? Por que motivo terá feito questão de vir ao Porto pelo menos uma dezena de vezes sem ninguém saber? Por que razão nos deixou, de propósito, pensar que se baldava ao trabalho? Quem lucraria com estas viagens do seleccionador, como se fosse o embuçado da Sandeman? Porquê permitir de forma tão leviana que crescesse o ressentimento do FC Porto? A "verdade" de Scolari é mesmo mais estranha do que a ficção. Explica ele:

"Só que alguém disse que eu não ia. E em determinado momento não fui mais."

Este é o determinado momento em que são postos à vista os chifres retorcidos do nosso diabo de sempre, o FC Porto. Recapitulando, Scolari veio ao Estádio do Dragão dez ou doze vezes e ninguém se apercebeu da presença dele porque o FC Porto encobriu as visitas ganhando com isso sabe-se lá o quê. Entretanto, durante todo este tempo, a FPF nunca se lembrou, nem à terceira, nem à quarta, nem à décima segunda ocasião, de informar os jornalistas do facto que o FC Porto tentava mascarar.

Se o seleccionador não está apenas a levar demasiado a sério as anedotas brasileiras sobre portugueses, aí está um esquecimento grave.

Não será devia?

"Eu já devo ter assistido a dez, doze jogos no Estádio do Dragão" "

José Manuel Ribeiro in oJogo

:rofl:

Scolari, you legendary f'ck.

Man, Scolari not calling Baía really messes with yours (FCP fans, including journalists) nervous system!

Where did that come from?
Baía is not even mentioned in the article.

It's the origin of the antipathy of FCP towards Scolari.

Scolari is a stealth ninja!

It's the origin of the antipathy of FCP towards Scolari.
Actually no... not really. Not calling Baía is simply one more reason to understand how much can Scolari be a dumbass...

Actually, I basically hate him for chosing Ricardo over Baía, Quim and in earlier times Moreira to be our NT keeper.
...no, wait. I hate him for chosing Ricardo, period. (6)

Like zuppafly said, not calling Baía is just one of the steps on his way to supreme dumbassness.

Hey guys, it looks like Sevilla is going to acquire Luis Fabiano and I was just wondering what you could tell me about him. I hope he will make a good addition.

He totally sucked at Porto, but before he was fabulous at São Paulo.

This was not a good season for Porto, he had his mom kidnapped too...those are some of the reasons that may justify his poor performances.
He scored 3 goals all season I think, and he hasn't done one good full match, just a few glimpses of class but not enough at all.
I would have kept him for another season to see what he could do, but this was a good deal for Porto financially....

I hope he shows his class in Sevilla, good luck for him and the club.

But of course Scolari has been to Porto games. In a world exclusive I'm going to reveal here at SG where Scolari was hiding! I'm sure you've all seen him at the stadium a couple times:

http://www.futebolnews.com/galerias/mascotes/europa/mascote25.gif



Hey guys, it looks like Sevilla is going to acquire Luis Fabiano and I was just wondering what you could tell me about him. I hope he will make a good addition.

Hey, don't listen to Massive there, he doesn't know what he's talking about! Fabiano is awesome!!! I can't believe Porto is letting him go, after all he did here. :(
Just tell your friends of the Sevilla board that they must buy this man at all costs, and be ready to drop a nice amount of cash for him. :)


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While searching for that pic above I came up with a bunch of cool pics of our stads. Check it out:
http://www.euspaceimaging.com/content/News/Press_Imagery/index.asp

But of course Scolari has been to Porto games. In a world exclusive I'm going to reveal here at SG where Scolari was hiding! I'm sure you've all seen him at the stadium a couple times:

http://www.futebolnews.com/galerias/mascotes/europa/mascote25.gif


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Scolari is a prick, i can't believe how he could lie like that in an interview! if he was ever at Dragão he would know it for sure...

Hey, don't listen to Massive there, he doesn't know what he's talking about! Fabiano is awesome!!! I can't believe Porto is letting him go, after all he did here. :(
Just tell your friends of the Sevilla board that they must buy this man at all costs, and be ready to drop a nice amount of cash for him. :)

My bad, that was exactly what I actually meant :evil:

You don't have to butter it up for me, the fans can't do anything, just wanted a fair estimate and I think massive gave one. I hope he finds his niche in Sevilla.

Kromkamp is gone what now?

The guy is too expensive! I agree we shall forget about him if AZ doesnt low the price!

Will we buy Cicinho? Unlike some of you i did like him at Confederations Cup, but he's a shorty!!

People talk about Trabelsi now? I've heard little about him, mostly from CM ;)! I know he plays in Ajax, he was a former right midfielder adapted to RB! What means good attack/defence balance, good crossing, but lack of some defensive basics! And does he have a UE passport? He's african right, and we already have too many foreigns!


"TRABELSI
País: Tunísia (Internacional A)
Idade: 26 anos.
Posição: Defesa-direito
Titular da selecção da Tunísia, foi contratado pelo Ajax, em 2001, ao CS Saxien, clube da I Divisão da Tunísia, onde alinhava como médio ala direito. Em Amsterdão converteu-se num lateral-direito moderno. Embora continue a atacar, revela agora maior atitude defensiva. O seu passado ofensivo reflecte-se muitas vezes, no entanto, em alguns lances onde revela as carências de movimentos básicos de um defesa. Ou seja, falta-lhe a escola do lugar. Quando sobe, sabe cruzar muito bem, mas, algo frágil fisicamente, raramente ganha bolas divididas."


I WANT A RB NOW!!!!

look, can you guys tell me who you've got for loan? can you name some that can be loaned to a liga de honra club?

K3nzo, Trabelsi's a great player! He kinda reminds me of Paulo Ferreira in his playing style, very fast going up and down the wing, good technique too.

K3nzo, Cicinho inproved his performances as the Confederations Cup went on and proved to be a good player. However, I think he's not worth the price tag that was talked about (around 10M€) and seems like one of those 'get player on Brazil NT - earn a part of the transfer fee' deals both players' agents + Brazilian NT coaches usually do. I doubt he'll get much action from the Confederations Cup forward, especially if he's sold to some mid-table european club.

"TRABELSI

Titular da selecção da Tunísia, foi contratado pelo Ajax, em 2001, ao CS Saxien, clube da I Divisão da Tunísia, onde alinhava como médio ala direito. Em Amsterdão converteu-se num lateral-direito moderno. Embora continue a atacar, revela agora maior atitude defensiva. O seu passado ofensivo reflecte-se muitas vezes, no entanto, em alguns lances onde revela as carências de movimentos básicos de um defesa. Ou seja, falta-lhe a escola do lugar. Quando sobe, sabe cruzar muito bem, mas, algo frágil fisicamente, raramente ganha bolas divididas.

Where did you get this from ? Looks like the typical Gabriel Alves description (H) :funny:

"Falta-lhe a escola do lugar..." L O L

btw, wanna decent prospect for RB? We have a portuguese one very close... right here in the boavista area.

Why is it so hard to look at portuguese players and so easy to to find Cicinho's and stuff liek that? :nape:


BTW, Vierinha loaned to Marco... :nape: there goes our chance to see anohter great kid developing with a white and blue jersey... It's not like he's 16 or 17 now... he could be given the chance to show Co that he could be a valid option, but no.... let's now find a right winger (preferentially a brazilian one... wanna bet?) because we only have Quaresma for that place.

just sign Nelson and Abel and we are set for years to come, plus both these players wouldn't cost 1/4 of what Krompkamp or Cicinho would

Trabelsi is awesome.

Cicinho impressed me during the competition and if Trabelsi can't be signed, or if he costs to much I think Cicinho would be a great option.

Cicinho impressed me during the competition and if Trabelsi can't be signed, or if he costs to much I think Cicinho would be a great option.

Well if Porto are going to get him we better be quick, aren't Betis after him too?

because we only have Quaresma for that place.

which is the same as "no valid options" :amika:

maybe Leandro Bonfim can play right... mm?

ya i'vebeen very impressed with Cicinho.

Where did you get this from ? Looks like the typical Gabriel Alves description (H) :funny:


That's from a great Portuguese journalist site, some of u might get a lot of good information about actual worldwide football! Players of the moment, young talents, tactics, etc!

www.planetadofutebol.com



About the RB's, besides Nelson there's another great youngster on our SuperLiga! He's young, about 21 or so, tall (+1.80m), good attacking and defensive skills, and he plays in Leiria!!! He's name LARANJEIRO!

Léo Lima espera «época diferente»

Contratado a meio da época passada ao Marítimo, o médio brasileiro Leo Lima regressou este domingo à cidade do Porto ainda sem saber se fica no plantel dos «dragões». De qualquer forma, o jogador aproveitou para falar das suas expectativas e... desilusões.
Leo Lima no aeroporto Sá Carneiro
ASF
«Na época passada o treinador [José Couceiro] se calhar não foi com a minha cara, pois deu-me poucas oportunidades para mostrar o meu valor», começou por dizer Leo Lima, que foi ainda mais longe nas suas críticas: «O novo treinador tem de ser diferente para que o possamos respeitar, algo que não acontecia com o outro. Se havia indisciplina no balneário com Couceiro? Não era no balneário, pois o nosso era tranquilo. Mas sim no treino e dentro do campo.»

Talvez por isso, o médio brasileiro tivesse ido de férias com disposição de abandonar o FC Porto, mas, agora, com novo treinador, Leo Lima espera «tudo diferente em relação à época passada». «Vou trabalhar ao máximo para ficar no grupo, pois quero fazer uma época importante no FC Porto», rematou.





******* asshole!

Just for coming with this **** for the press I'd place him in the B team until his contract expires (and wouldn't let him play any game...).
If that's his opinion, then tell it to the SAD directors or PdC... never, EVER, to the press...

And it's always good to hear a player say that he'll be working harder now... it only means that he wasn't working hard so far. And to be honest, I never saw this asshole run once after the ball...

he didn't really say anything wrong

«O novo treinador tem de ser diferente para que o possamos respeitar»...
I think this shows a complete lack of professionalism... Talking trash about a past coach is something that should never be done...

he's not the only one to do so and won't be the last. Even Ibson and Diego said that chaning coaches was the best thing to do

Yeah, but changing coaches has nothing to do with the fact that Leo Lima plainly sucks.

'[José Couceiro] se calhar não foi com a minha cara'??? --> tu é que não jogas a ponta dum chavelho.

'O novo treinador tem de ser diferente para que o possamos respeitar' --> this is what annoys me the most about this guy: he came to Porto from a small club and thinks it's our coach who needs to earn his respect. Ah.

We seem to finally have found a RB...it may be a rumour, but being on "oJogo", makes me think it is already a fact.
I know nothing about him except for what I've read on the article below :rolleyes:
The man's name is Fatih Sonkaya, he comes from Besiktas for 1,5 million €.

"É lateral-direito, com dupla nacionalidade turca e holandesa, chama-se Fatih Sonkaya e esteve ontem na Invicta a fazer exames médicos antes de assinar por quatro temporadas pelo FC Porto, que pagou cerca de um milhão e meio de euros ao Besiktas para assegurar a sua contratação. Com 24 anos de idade, Fatih Sonkaya é internacional turco, custará menos seis milhões de euros que Kromkamp e tal como este é um velho conhecido de Co Adriaanse. O treinador do FC Porto conhece-o do campeonato holandês e do FC Roda, clube que representou durante quase toda a sua carreira e de onde se transferiu para os turcos do Besiktas no final da temporada 2003/04 por cerca de meio milhão de euros.

Na última época, Sonkaya não foi muito utilizado no clube turco, tendo sido chamado por Vicente del Bosque para participar em apenas 10 jogos mas isso não afectou as boas referências que Adriaanse tinha dele e que o colocaram no segundo lugar na lista de preferências do técnico do FC Porto para ocupar a vaga no lado direito da defesa deixada em aberto pela saída de Seitaridis. As outras alternativas de Adriaanse para o lugar eram, como se sabe, Kromkamp, do AZ Alkmaar como primeira escolha, e Trabelsi, do Ajax, como último recurso.

Com um 1,80 metros de altura e cidadão comunitário, Sonkaya encaixa no perfil definido pelos portistas para o sucessor de Seitaridis. Tinha de ser um jogador alto e fisicamente forte e não contribuir para o contingente de jogadores extracomunitários do plantel do FC Porto. Apesar de ter nascido em Oitu, na Turquia, Sonkaya emigrou muito novo com os pais para a Holanda, passando pelos escalões de formação do FC Heerlen antes de se transferir para o FC Roda na época de 1998/99 com apenas 17 anos. Duas boas temporadas com o Roda, em 2002/03 e 2003/04 acabariam por abrir-lhe as portas da selecção turca, ao serviço da qual se estreou a 30 de Abril de 2003 num jogo contra a República Checa. Na última temporada seria contratado pelo Besiktas, apesar de também ser pretendido pelo Galatasaray, mas continuou referenciado por Co Adriaanse, que poderá contar com ele a partir dos próximos dias. Sonkaya já está no Porto e integrará a comitiva que parte para estágio no início da próxima semana.

Bilhete de identidade


Fatih Sonkaya
Data de nascimento: 01/07/81
Naturalidade: Oitu, Turquia
Nacionalidade: Turca/Holandesa
Altura: 1,80 metros
Peso: 82 kg

Clubes anteriores:
1998/99 FC Roda (Holanda)
1999/00 FC Roda (Holanda)
1999/00 VVV (Holanda)
2000/01 FC Roda (Holanda)
2001/02 FC Roda (Holanda)
2002/03 FC Roda (Holanda)
2003/04 FC Roda (Holanda)
2004/05 Besiktas (Turquia)"

in oJogo

I'd appreciate some help from any Turkish or Dutch fans, or whoever knows him well enough, to give us some lights about this guy's skills.

Can't wait to see the man play, hope he's the RB we need! :jambo:

Meanwhile Kromkamp is bound to stay with AZ for another season, thanks to the greedy AZ board :ewan:

i bought the Porto jersey for next season and i love it

Meanwhile Kromkamp is bound to stay with AZ for another season, thanks to the greedy AZ board :ewan:He'll probably end up at Valencia for 8.5 million euros. From what I read, Porto weren't willing/could not make the payment at once while Valenica could. And there is no "AZ board," it's just one greedy guy called Scheringa. He promised van Gaal that only two players would be sold. So far only Lindenbergh has been sold (to Ajax).

Newspaper ABola says that Kromkamp is still an option to FCPorto now that it seems that Valencia has given up on him due the high financial demandings of Mr. "I´m Not Used to Deal" Scheringa!

If that is still possible either they accept the partial payments that FCPorto wants to do, or PDCosta looses his mind and spends a load a money right now just to please Mr. Co.

Besides if Kromkamp comes we now have an extra dismissal in order to get the 24/25 players squad! That's about 8 or 9 dismissals!!!



PS: Does anyones knows this Fatih Sonkaya?

Na última época, Sonkaya não foi muito utilizado no clube turco, [Last season Sonkaya didn't play regularly for the turkish side]

Wow, that really got me hyped! Not! :nape:

Why do we keep wasting money on some random nobody heard of? Why do we keep wasting our money on junior teams if all we do to our promising players is ship them to clubs like Vitória, Académica, etc., or lend them to Liga de Honra clubs?

And btw, this deal just goes out to show how stupid our SAD is when it comes to negotiating. Just follow me and see if this makes any sense:
* In the begining of the 2004/05 season Sonkaya - who played regularly at FC Roda - is transfered to Besiktas for 0,5M€.
* After spending most of last season in the bench, Porto buys Sonkaya for 1,5M€ - 3 times the money Besitkas payed for him!!!
I rest my case. :rolleyes:

I really dont think this is such a bad buy!

1st - it's not that expensive!
2nd - has a european passport
3rd - asked by the coach, shall we trust Co Ad or not?
4th - he only played 10 games cause they played with 3 defenders only and Okan was the 1st RW (That's what i heard, still needs confirmation)
5th - has the physical type wanted (that aint all, but it helps)

He has also played for Holland in younger teams!
http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/superliga/fcporto/sonkaya-2.jpg

Strong and pacey, strongets defending due to good heading, but weakest on attack, poor tecnic and crossing....

...i'm gettin dissapointed....

learn more here (PT ONLY) http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/119491.html#more

I really dont think this is such a bad buy!

1st - it's not that expensive!
2nd - has a european passport
3rd - asked by the coach, shall we trust Co Ad or not?
4th - he only played 10 games cause they played with 3 defenders only and Okan was the 1st RW (That's what i heard, still needs confirmation)
5th - has the physical type wanted (that aint all, but it helps)


1st - If you look solely at the amount of money it doesn't seem that much, I agree. But 1,5M€ is a lot of money to our youth developping system - where that money should have been invested instead! Also, you got to take notice of how much Besitkas payed for him and how well he did for the turks in order to realize whether it was a good deal or not.
2nd - True. But so do our youngsters.
3rd - Yes. But we should also think for ourselves.
4th - Don't know, you're probably right.
5h - So does Karadas.

and, according to your (good) link:

6th - 'já tinha sido anunciado como novo reforço do modesto Sivasspor, clube recém promovido à 1ªdivisão turca.' I wonder how much was Sivasspor paying Besitkas. 1,5M€? Don't think so...
7th - 'Em 2003/04, no entanto, acabaria por entrar em ruptura com a direcção do clube'. Always a bad sign, I fear.

Don't get me wrong, I hope he'll do great with our shirt. It's just that our SAD's policy on buying players makes me want to smash their heads against a wall.

This has got to be the most awesome hair ever (H)

http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/superliga/fcporto/sonkaya-3.jpg

Fatih Who????

OMG, a Besiktas reserve!! Whohoooo!!! :lui:

awesome hair

This has got to be the most awesome hair ever (H)

http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/superliga/fcporto/sonkaya-3.jpg


oh sh!t, that looks like Lego man hair!

He has also played for Holland in younger teams!
http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/superliga/fcporto/sonkaya-2.jpg

Strong and pacey, strongets defending due to good heading, but weakest on attack, poor tecnic and crossing....

...i'm gettin dissapointed....

learn more here (PT ONLY) http://terceiroanel.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/119491.html#more

Why do I keep thinking about the movie American pie?

guys don't be so hard on him!
he might be good...







...for the B team! :evil:

stupid signing IMO

heh, his name is "Fatty" ...can't wait to hear Portuguese tv commentators saying it! (6)

Porto B can't go any higher so i don't see why did PdC bought this lad

You guys haven't seen him play and already think he's no good...
I prefer to wait and see how he does in Porto, at least he's a choice from the coach, and ahead of Trabelsi for what I've read.

And he once had that remarkable hair (H)

yes, i have to admit that his was the first player to be brought to porto by the coach, i've said that before because he wasn't even a regular at Besiktas, i hope he plays against us :fool:

Dutch television has just confirmed that there's an agreement between AZ and Porto concerning Kromkamp
FCP only has to prove they can pay the transfer fee and then he's ours...
Nothing was said about the money involved in this transfer

awww, I wanted you guys to get that hairy Fatty :(

sure hope this Kronkamp will be worth it, you sure went through a lot of trouble to get him..

Dutch television has just confirmed that there's an agreement between AZ and Porto concerning Kromkamp
FCP only has to prove they can pay the transfer fee and then he's ours...
Nothing was said about the money involved in this transfer

That's good news! As long as Kromkamp isn't more expensive than Seitaridis. And I hope this time they give the new guys room to breathe and become one with the city and the team.

Besiktas has confirmed the transfer of Sonkaya to Porto on their site:
http://www.bjk.com.tr/en/haberler.php?h_no=474

There's also an interview with the player on the Porto site:
http://www.fcporto.pt/Info/Futebol/Noticias/infofut_futsonkayaent_080705_14181.asp


I believe this puts Kromkamp definitely out of our way.

er... this sonkaila has trained today with the team...

Let's see how this guy plays. If kromkamp doe come we have the Right side of the defense taken care of or so i hope.

Does anybody know, if any TV Channel will show the NEC Nijmegen vs FC Porto?

NO! According to Portuguese newspapers it wont because FCPorto has an agrrement with the Amsterdam Tournment[LINK] (http://www.amsterdamtournament.nl/) not to broadcast their previous games!





INFESTA: It seems that Fatinha (Sonkaya) was much cheaper than what it was told, the recent numbers say that he only cost half a million (500,000€) and that Besiktas payed to Roda 3 million €! (Turkish Daily in English) (http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=17842)

If so that's good news. (Y)

Yeah 500,000 € was a bargain..or not, time will tell :jambo:

Btw, Claudio going to Saudi Arabia has just ended his chances to ever come back to our squad, who the f'ck will see him play there....and even if he scores 50 goals next season, it will still happen in Saudi Arabia so he's doomed anyway :fool:


We have played against NEC today, 1-0 win, Postiga scoring again.
I hate to not being able to see the team play on these friendlies, judge new players and stuff....only the game vs Brugge will be televised, and hopefully the Amsterdam Tournament too.
So all that's left are the comments from the press, and from what I've read, Postiga, Jorginho and Lisandro have done very well today.

Real tests will be Arsenal and Boca, I hope we do well against so that the players' morale can get a major boost out of it.

Well, 2 wins out of 2 matches so far.
Keep it up Co (Y)

According to 'O Jogo' Lucho also played well. But most importantly was probably this: 'Mas, mais do que o destaque individual, foi visível, especialmente na primeira parte, a preocupação da equipa jogar em bloco, pressionando alto e utilizando as faixas laterais'.

(Y)

Yeah I've read in oJogo that Lucho was great too, the other three players were mentioned by Record. Lucho on a high note is no surprise to me (H)

Out of the three tactical elements you've quoted INFESTA, I think the most important one to keep for every match is the high pressure. To be done all over the field.
It brought us such good results on the past with Mourinho...get the ball from them on their side, rather than waiting for the opposition to arrive to our midfield - like last season :nape:

Anyway the three of them are awesome tactical measures by Co, now it's up to the players to put his ideas on the field.
And they will! :read:

Did you heard Co yealling at Leo Lima? Did he granted his dismissal already?

Co Adriaanse is gaining Portistas respect, after last season the thing we'd love to see as much as good football, is discipline and Co Ad kicks ass!!!


I TRUST THIS GUY!!! (i really hope i dont regret it by December... :rolleyes: )

can some of you tell me the next friendlies for porto, please?

Next Games

16/07 - Bennekom - (easy against amateurs)

20/07 - Vitesse - (Holland 1st Division, nice test)

23/07 - Brugge - (Belgian 1st Division, some action please)

Amsterdam Tournment (time to show something!)

29/07 - Boca Juniors

31/07 - Arsenal

thank you k3nzo!!


the most intriguing match of these seems to be the one vs Vitesse (i'm not including the amsterdam tournament, where the stars have to shine and lisandro must score to keep the dragoes confident for the new season.

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=292237&CPID=14&CLID=&lid=2&title=Hearts+in+Porto+coup&channel=football_home

Well well well... :ewan:

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/list.asp?hlid=292237&CPID=14&CLID=&lid=2&title=Hearts+in+Porto+coup&channel=football_home

Well well well... :ewan:

Strange...
I thought he already signed with Setubal...? :S

Parasol you can check any info about our pre-season fixtures on the first page ;)

I think Jankauskas should have stuck with the Setubal offer (was there actually one?), play in the UEFA Cup and on a league he knows well would have been better for him IMO.
Anyway good luck for him at Hearts and to the club aswell, I'll be kind of cheering for them now (H)

We won 7-0 vs Bennekom today.
Apparently Ivanildo scored a great goal, I hope I can get to see it...
Meh, 7-0 against a bunch of amateurs, not much to cheer about but hey...3rd game, 3rd win :jap:

Denis, I can't believe you signed legend Jankauskas!!! (H)

And Co shouting at Leo Lima! (H) GO CO!

"Os jogadores brasileiros pensam que se não tiverem a bola alguém vai recuperá-la para eles." - Co Adriaanse


Nice to see a coach actually say what we're all thinking..

Co made my day by talking that way to Leo ! :jap:

That's the spirit Co :)