September 3rd, 2005
Columbus, Ohio, USA

this game is that important, Ill make this thread now to post squads, news and comments.

Mexico's squad:

Goalies
Oswaldo Sánchez (Guadalajara)
Moisés Muñoz (Morelia)

Defenders
Rafael Márquez (Barcelona - SPA)
Ricardo Osorio (Cruz Azul)
Francisco Javier Rodríguez (Guadalajara)
Carlos Salcido (Guadalajara)
Mario Méndez (Toluca)
Gonzálo Pineda (U.N.A.M.)

Midfielders
Carlos Adrían Morales (Tigres)
Pavel Pardo (América)
Oscar Adrián Rojas (América)
Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul)
Gerardo Galindo (U.N.A.M.)
Ramón Morales (Guadalajara)
Antonio Naelson (Toluca)
Luis Ernesto Pérez (Monterrey)

Forwards
Alberto Medina (Guadalajara)
Francisco Fonseca (Cruz Azul)
Jared Borgetti (Bolton Wanderers - ENG)
Omar Bravo (Guadalajara)

************************
No Blanco. :nape:

Its a good squad, I really dont know what Munoz, Carlos Morales and Rojas are doing there. I see this squad missing Blanco, Ochoa, Lozano and Arellano.

*Opens Photoshop and begins work on new anti-Mexico sig*

(H)

The Rochester stampede will be represented there with like 4 or 5 guys, showing our banner like we did in the WCQ game. RochesterFC1013 made an awesome t-shirt design for them.

http://www.rochesterstampede.com/uploads/kyle/donovancartoon2.jpg

No Blanco. :nape: Don't tell me that you're surprised, I know I'm not. Lavolpe and him just don't get along and I don't think we'll be seeing him for a while. Team looks good but we could definitely use Lozano and Arellano, maybe Lavolpe will make some changes soon, maybe.

Im not surprised, I was just hopeful. :(

I know everyone says "look how good we played at the Confeds Cup w/o Blanco" yeah, ok good, now imagine that same team with him on the field.

But Bravo might be dropped since hes injured. Ill start the chant...

Guille! Guille! Guille! Guille! (H)

Might as well call him up, Bravo's ankles are completely ****ed up, I feel bad for him. :(

I got three words for u Beto...

Jose...Manuel...Abundis (H)

Damn, we're not that desperate for a forward are we? :D

Mex 3 - 1 USA

*Opens Photoshop and begins work on new anti-Mexico sig*

(H)
I'm one step ahead of you.

Mex 3 - 1 USA
Bosnia 0-7 Belgium

USA 2 - 2 Mexico.

Apparently, there is still no live English-language broadcast for this game. No, not even ESPN classic, Avalanche.

ESPN coverage on September 3rd:

ESPN: Boise State-Georgia college football
ESPN2: USC-Hawaii college football
ESPN Classic: Battle Lines: Billy Conn/Joe Louis I (boxing)
ESPNEWS: News
ESPN Deportes: Torneos de las Américas basketball
ESPNU: Delaware State-Florida A&M college football

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/grant_wahl/08/19/us.cable/index.html

Telemundo (H)

The match it's not that important anymore.

Both squads are qualified for the World Cup, both squads have proven to be at an exceptional form.


But if you want, just for the "honor", I think the U.S. can win this game.
"Can" being the keyword there.

They'll have to pull something special out for this match, Mexico is not the tactically weak, overconfident team of the past. Being a Football fan, you have to realize that. They have some very skilled players, aside from the younger players who have everything to prove, plus Lapolpe (as much as I hate him) has an excellent idea for this team. If anyone thinks that the game against Brazil (in the Confed.) was a fluke, you need to find a new sport to watch, cause you perception for this game súcks, seriously.

I do follow alot of American players, and I believe this World Cup will be in part their show.
But do they have a strong enough "backbone" to support the pressure of this game?, we'll see.




No Blanco.... :nape:

How about the USA without Donovan, and DMB...
...Just to make it even...

:fool:

I fell that the USA will want the win more since they were out classed in Mexico and it will be a sell out game so I say the USA will in 2:1. Both goals from McBride and Borgetti will score for Mexico. Oh and as usual Donovan will be invisible during the whole game :S

Is Beasley injured? I expect he'll be there. Should be another good encounter. I predict a draw though, 1-1 to be exact.

BTW it was sorta weird seeing a Mexican play in the EPL. :P

here goes our squad list, and why the fucc is blanco not in there, i see 2 or three players name below who dont even belong there, someone gotta tell lavolple to quit all this favoritism bullsh!t couse that sh!t aint cute...
anyways here it goes:

Oswaldo Javier Sánchez Ibarra Portero Guadalajara

Moisés Muñoz Rodríguez Portero Monarcas

Rafael Márquez Alvarez Defensa Barcelona FC

Ricardo Osorio Mendoza Defensa Cruz Azul

Francisco Javier Rodríguez Pinedo Defensa Guadalajara

Carlos Arnoldo Salcido Flores Defensa Guadalajara

Mario Méndez Olague Defensa Toluca

Gonzalo Pineda Reyes Medio UNAM

Carlos Adrián Morales Higuera Medio Tigres

Pavel Pardo Segura Medio América

Oscar Adrián Rojas Castillón Medio América

Gerardo Torrado Díaz de Bonilla Medio Cruz Azul

Gerardo Gabriel Galindo Martínez Medio UNAM

Ramón Morales Higuera Medio Guadalajara

Antonio Naelson Matías Medio Toluca

Luis Ernesto Pérez Gómez Medio Monterrey

Alberto Medina Briseño Delantero Guadalajara

José Francisco Fonseca Guzmán Delantero Cruz Azul

Jared Francisco Borgetti Echavarria Delantero Bolton FC

Omar Bravo Tordecillas Delantero Guadalajara

Goalies
Oswaldo Sánchez (Guadalajara) : of course.
Moisés Muñoz (Morelia) : I'd preffer Memo Ochoa or Jesus Corona.

Defenders
Rafael Márquez (Barcelona - SPA) : just don't get kicked out.
Ricardo Osorio (Cruz Azul) : good luck. (6)
Francisco Javier Rodríguez (Guadalajara) : dude sucks harder than a Chivas fan.
Carlos Salcido (Guadalajara) : legend.
Mario Méndez (Toluca) : promising.
Gonzálo Pineda (U.N.A.M.) : has earned a spot on the WC roster.

Midfielders
Carlos Adrían Morales (Tigres) : WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pavel Pardo (América) : legend and leadership.
Oscar Adrián Rojas (América) : promising. Americanizta (H)
Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul) : our only hope for CM.
Gerardo Galindo (U.N.A.M.) : ups and downs.
Ramón Morales (Guadalajara) : nice guy :) ...thats it.
Antonio Naelson (Toluca) : sucked last game, don't really care that he's brazilian anymore.
Luis Ernesto Pérez (Monterrey) : has all the skills.

Forwards
Alberto Medina (Guadalajara) : good weapon.
Francisco Fonseca (Cruz Azul) : sub-par
Jared Borgetti (Bolton Wanderers - ENG) : legend.
Omar Bravo (Guadalajara) : I still can't belive he got the cover for FIFA 2006. WTF?

Where is Cuauhtemoc Blanco?
Where is Guillermo Franco (Monterrey)? yes, he is Mexican now.
Where is Walter Gaitan (Tigres)? ...yes, he is Mexican now.
Where is Jesus Arellano (Monterrey)?
Where is Adolfo "Bofo" Bautista (Chivas)?
Where is (giv'em a chance) Diego Martinez (Necaxa)?
Where is (giv'em a chance) Fernando Arce (Morerlia)?
Where is (giv'em a chance) Joaquin Beltran (Pumas)?

Lavolpe, where are they?...last time I hear, you can't go to "La Seleccion" if you don't call them up.

Where is Cuauhtemoc Blanco?
Where is Guillermo Franco (Monterrey)? yes, he is Mexican now.
Where is Walter Gaitan (Tigres)? ...yes, he is Mexican now.
Where is Jesus Arellano (Monterrey)?
Where is Adolfo "Bofo" Bautista (Chivas)?
Where is (giv'em a chance) Diego Martinez (Necaxa)?
Where is (giv'em a chance) Fernando Arce (Morerlia)?
Where is (giv'em a chance) Joaquin Beltran (Pumas)?

Lavolpe, where are they?...last time I hear, you can't go to "La Seleccion" if you don't call them up.

I agree with u on Blanco, Ochoa, Bofo and Guille. Blanco, Ochoa and Bofo have been playing some of the best soccer ive seen out of them in years, nows there chance. And Guilee, well, hes el Guille.

But Martinez, Arellano, Arce and Beltran no. Martinez has been playing like sh*t for about a year now. Arellano just came out of an injury so lets give him some time to get back to his level of play. Arce has never done anything, hes good on Morelia at times but not natl team level. And Beltran maybe, dont know.

Yeah, Martinez WAS playing like sh*t for about a year, he's 5 games and getting back to form. Who 's gonna replace Carmonas spot? The ONLY true Right Wing Back in Mexico is Diego Martinez...Pity Altamirano comes to mind, but no. Arellano, yes off an injury but if you don't call him...Why not Gaitan? And Beltran DESERVES a spot.

Where is (giv'em a chance) Diego Martinez (Necaxa)? He's ****, there's no way he deserves a spot on the national team and for Bofo, he's too inconsistent. He could have a great game one day and play like complete **** the next. Also, what the hell do you have against Ramon Morales, "He's a nice guy, that's it." Have you seen him play, he's a lot better than you think he is. Everytime you seem to talk about him you underrate him, I guess its because he plays for Chivas or something.

2 - 2 tie

oh say..2 expulsions :p

I dont think he has called Blanco becuase this might break up the great team chemistry and atmosphere that is amongst the regular players. Although I am sure he will eventually call him up when the time is right such as during the World Cup.El Bofo is a good player but the problem with him is that he is not regular. Where is el Jimmy Lozano, he has proven he is worthy of the seleccion mexicana although during the Confederations Cup he had a bad tourney.

What happened to Bofo? last year he was really good with the team but he has not been called in awhile. And Beltran is a great for Pumas and he deserves as much a chance as anyone else.

Apparently, there is still no live English-language broadcast for this game. No, not even ESPN classic, Avalanche.]

Last I checked, the USSF/SUM is still looking for an English-language home for the visit of the Wetba...er, Mexicans. Their preferred option is still ESPN Classic, but it appears that if that isn't available, their Plan B is FSC.

...for the visit of the Wetba...er, Mexicans.

riiiiiiiiiiiight.

They'll have to pull something special out for this match, Mexico is not the tactically weak, overconfident team of the past. Being a Football fan, you have to realize that. They have some very skilled players, aside from the younger players who have everything to prove, plus Lapolpe (as much as I hate him) has an excellent idea for this team. If anyone thinks that the game against Brazil (in the Confed.) was a fluke, you need to find a new sport to watch, cause you perception for this game súcks, seriously.

I do follow alot of American players, and I believe this World Cup will be in part their show.
But do they have a strong enough "backbone" to support the pressure of this game?, we'll see.

No Blanco.... :nape:

How about the USA without Donovan, and DMB...
...Just to make it even...

:fool:

Yeah I agree, that match with Brazil was a fine display, fun to watch even for an all out USA fan.

I love this match regardless of how important it is for WCQ. It's always a good test for us to play Mexico, and the rivalry gets better every year :hump:

And no way Blanco is worth Donovan & DMB... :nape:

Oh and as usual Donovan will be invisible during the whole game :S

The ONE time Donovan puts his lazy @ss in gear is big national team games so I think your wrong. But we'll see.

And no way Blanco is worth Donovan & DMB... :nape:


Since Blanco was transfered to Tiburones of Veracruz a couple of seasons back, his growth as a football player has been enormous.

His technique, and his "vision" in the field, are just incredible.

He's without a doubt the best footballer in Mexico right now (including foreign players), and in my opinion, above the entire National Team.


They were doing a couple of highlights today, in Super Estadio (GolTV), of what he has done so far in the season...

Man, the MFL doesn't deserve to have him, he should definitely be playing in Europe.


Don't think I'm even a fan of his, I despise Club America, but he's too good for me not to see it.




Anyway, I'm not a supporter of Guille or Gaitan. (or Zinha for that matter)
We have more than enough talent in our players.

Beltran should definitely be called, the guys has a great spirit.

Arellano does need some more time to get into rythm.

Maybe if Bautista continues doing well, he should definitely get another call. So far in the tournament, whatever Chivas has done, it is in a big part due to him.

And Arce... ..well he's just like Bravo, no luck with the NT...

riiiiiiiiiiiight.
(H)!

My view of Blanco: Simple "es un maestraso" the words used by the same guys on GOL TV, I think his experience and getting back to 100% from that horrific injury have given him more "soccer knowledge" than ever. He was sOOOO good before the injure that we forgot how good he was, now that he's gotten back to form we all see why he's wearing #10. Thats that, he's in the NT...no matter how many times he DOESN'T get called before the WC, Lavolpe isn't silly enough to leave him out of the WC...and all those persional issues they have will be forgotten as the WC approches.

My view on foreign players who have Mex. nationality JUST so they can play for NT: At first I really doubted Lapolpe for callinp Zinha, he's proven us that he is one of the best Mexican Players, and that his nationality has to come in second when the guy wants to play for his adoptive country. I however, personally think that he could "easily" lose his job as a starter but not on the team. With Arellano coming back, he is yet ANOTHER who we've forgotten saved our ASSES in the 98 WC, he's our true CAM.

This is how I see us before the WC:

----------Sanchez-----------
--Marquez--Osorio--Salcido--
???-------------------Lozano ???= not Maza (H), Pineda?, Rojas?, Mendez?
----------Torrado-----------
---Arellano------Perez-------
-----------Blanco------------
-----Franco-----Borgetti-----

Subs:
(GK) Ochoa (H) ..."va que vuela para la seleccion, si lo quieren" San Guillermo(H)
(CB) Beltran
(CDM) Pardo
(LWM) Morales
(CAM) Zinha
(CF) "Bofo" Bautista
(ST) Fonseca

My view of Blanco: Simple "es un maestraso" the words used by the same guys on GOL TV, I think his experience and getting back to 100% from that horrific injury have given him more "soccer knowledge" than ever. He was sOOOO good before the injure that we forgot how good he was, now that he's gotten back to form we all see why he's wearing #10. Thats that, he's in the NT...no matter how many times he DOESN'T get called before the WC, Lavolpe isn't silly enough to leave him out of the WC...and all those persional issues they have will be forgotten as the WC approches. I hope he comes back too but when Lavolpe has a grudge against someone, nothing good can come out of it. Blanco may be a prick but he's a damn good player and we need him, I don't care if people say otherwise.

About Zinha, from the times he's been called up, I can only recall him having a couple of good games. He loses the ball a little too often for my liking and can dissapear completely during games. No doubt he's a good player but there are other players who can come in and probably do a better job, he just hasn't impressed me while on the NT.

Please use Pumas goalie (H)

Ill take it u saw their game vs Cruz Azul Bobby? :D

and ronni, Arellano isnt a CAM. He plays on the wing.

Yes, i did. (H)

Anyway, moron wants to know why Rodrigo Ruiz isn't there.

Rodrigo Ruiz has already played for Chile, his native country.

Goalkeepers (3) – Marcus Hahnemann (Reading FC), Kasey Keller (Borussia Moenchengladbach), Matt Reis (New England Revolution)
Defenders (8) – Chris Albright (Los Angeles Galaxy), Gregg Berhalter (Energie Cottbus), Carlos Bocanegra (Fulham FC), Jimmy Conrad (Kansas City Wizards), Frankie Hejduk (Columbus Crew), Chad Marshall (Columbus Crew), Oguchi Onyewu (Standard de Liege), Greg Vanney (FC Dallas)
Midfielders (10) – Chris Armas (Chicago Fire), DaMarcus Beasley (PSV Eindhoven), Bobby Convey (Reading FC), Clint Dempsey (New England Revolution), Eddie Lewis (Leeds United), Justin Mapp (Chicago Fire), Pablo Mastroeni (Colorado Rapids), Santino Quaranta (D.C. United), Steve Ralston (New England Revolution), Claudio Reyna (Manchester City),
Forwards (5) – Jeff Cunningham (Colorado Rapids), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Eddie Johnson (FC Dallas), Brian McBride
(Fulham FC), Taylor Twellman (New England Revolution)

Will someone post USA's probable lineup ?

I'll take a stab at it...

GK: Keller
RB: Hejduk
CB: Onyewu
CB: Berhalter
LB: Bocanegra
RM: Donovan
CM: Reyna [C]
CM: Mastroeni
LM: Beasley
ST: Johnson
ST: McBride

I don't know how probable that is, it's just what came off the top of my head.

I dont know how fit Beasley and Eddie Johnson are. This is what i think Bruce will do:

--------Mcbride---Donovan-------
Convey-------------------Ralston
--------Reyna---Mastroeni------
Lewis--Onyewu----Boca---Hejduk
-------------Keller--------------

I would rather see Quaranta over Ralston. But hes probably not ready for a big game like this. Convey is tearing it up in the Championship. I would guess Lewis starts at left back again.

I hope Johnson can start upfront in place of Donovan, I think he's fit enough finally.
Never liked Donovan up top. He's better as a roaming OMF. Put him in Ralston's place.
Bocanegra and Lewis are possible but not for sure.

Convey won't be playing as he's suspended.

For sure Mcbride, Donovan, Reyna, Mastroeni, Onyewu, Keller will be starting.

And for the love of all that is good give Cunnigham some play time, that dude is insane lately. :rockman:

I'd like to see:


---------------Onyewu---------Bocanegra-----------------
----Hejduk-----------------------------------Lewis--------



----------------------Mastroeni---------------------------
------Reyna----------------------------Beasley-----------
----------------------Donovan----------------------------



----------------Johnson---------McBride-------------------



Subs to use if we're trailing or even in the second half:

Quaranta, Dempsey, Cunningham, Twellman

I forgot that Convey is suspended. I dont think Beasley will start though, i would count on Eddie Lewis

In the Mexico game on Easter sunday, Bruce fooled all of us and played a 4-2-3-1. And he might surprise us again and play a 3-5-2.

I'd like...

GK: Keller
RB: Albright
CB: Berhalter
CB: Gooch
LB: Boca
ACM: Donovan
DCM: Reyna [C]
RW: Dempsey
LW: Lewis/DMB
ST: Twellman
ST: McBride

Beasley isn't ready for 90 minutes and neither is GAM, I think. Q-Man or Cunningham should get some time.

Keller

Albright
Onyewu
Berhalter
Bocanegra

Reyna [c]

Dempsey
Beasley/Lewis

Donovan

Cunningham
McBride


GAM for one of the midfielders late if we're down

All these lineups are good. But theres no way that Bruce can leave Pablo Mastroeni out of the starting lineup. He will be the most important player out there, and he has to start. He is just the type of player we need for this game. He will take Mexicos offensive players out of the game, just like he did in 2002.

2 d mids then?

Bobby, stop copying my line-up.

Btw, game's live on Classic.

Mexico's coach, Lavolpe, said that if USA really is better than Mexico... its time for them to prove it. Having their U-23 team lose 4-0 and beat Mexico in a friendly with a goal in the 93rd min (damn u Pope!) doesnt make the US seem like theyre #1 in CONCACAF.

(H) (H) (H)

All these lineups are good. But theres no way that Bruce can leave Pablo Mastroeni out of the starting lineup. He will be the most important player out there, and he has to start. He is just the type of player we need for this game. He will take Mexicos offensive players out of the game, just like he did in 2002.
True that. But there's another major flaw in those line-ups:

they feature Berhalter.

I'm not saying Bruce won't start him, I'm saying it's a bad idea.

A defense of Albright-Onyewu-Berhalter-Bocanegra is a recipe for disaster. Berhalter is too slow, Bocanegra is not a left back and Albright is a penalty kick waiting to happen. Hejduk-Onyewu-Berhalter-Bocangera is not much better because it means we'll get ZERO offense from our left and right back.

And there's no way Dempsey will start. Or Cunningham for that matter, he's our "super-sub".

One more thing: Reyna doesn't have to play centrally. He's played on the right for City, Rangers, and even in World Cup 2002 against Mexico. I wouldn't be surprised if that's where Arena uses him in the absence of a quality right mid.

For starters I consider USA equal, not better than Mexico in CONCACAF. Even though we have really improved our consistency as of the last 5 years Mexico's record is still much better overall and we need years more of consistent play to really be considered #1.

Secondly, our record speaks for itself:
"23 Games between the USA and Mexico since 1991, of which the United States has lost just seven times while compiling a solid 9-7-7 record and outscoring Mexico 27-20"

"6 All-time wins for Bruce Arena against Mexico, against four losses and one tie in 11 games."

Albright over ******* Hejduk any day of the week.

Yeah I'd probably rather have Albright aswell. Onyewu and Boca are the only defenders I really like.

You can't forget Cory Gibbs.. not only is he better than Albright and Hedjuk, he's versatile. It's a shame he's injured (and a F-Word player).

Yeah I was just thinking about Gibbs. him, gooch, and boca are definalty our best guys.

I think Gibbs is the best American defender right now. Perhaps Onyewu will overtake him by WC2006 because he's even more athletic. But right now Gooch lacks experience (as evidenced in the Mexico game at the Azteca).

Hejduk is a better defender than Albright, but Albright is more dangerous going forward. I think it's an even trade-off, offense for defense.

Ricardo Osorio (Cruz Azul) has been dropped from the squad due to injury. Duilio Davino (America) has been called up to replace him.

Mexico's coach, Lavolpe, said that if USA really is better than Mexico... its time for them to prove it. Having their U-23 team lose 4-0 and beat Mexico in a friendly with a goal in the 93rd min (damn u Pope!) doesnt make the US seem like theyre #1 in CONCACAF.

(H) (H) (H)


This Bull**** sounds just like the other **** he said about Mexico wining the WC in 2006... :rofl: :rofl:

This Bull**** sounds just like the other **** he said about Mexico wining the WC in 2006... :rofl: :rofl:

Lavolpe didnt say that u idiot.

Hugo Sanchez, the master of pulling things out of his ass, said that if they fired Lavolpe and put him in as coach Mexico would win the World Cup.

Lavolpe didnt say that u idiot.

Hugo Sanchez, the master of pulling things out of his ass, said that if they fired Lavolpe and put him in as coach Mexico would win the World Cup.


He did say it a while ago..after Hugo came up with it..He said that Hugo was right and that Mexico has a big chance wining the WC in 2006. :rofl: :rofl:

It was in a press conference that he said it YOU IDIOT!

He did say it a while ago..after Hugo came up with it..He said that Hugo was right and that Mexico has a big chance wining the WC in 2006. :rofl: :rofl: Sure.

He did say it a while ago..after Hugo came up with it..He said that Hugo was right and that Mexico has a big chance wining the WC in 2006. :rofl: :rofl:

It was in a press conference that he said it YOU IDIOT!

Not that I believe u, but if for some reason that is true. Thats along the lines of what Arsene Wenger said about Mexico after the confeds cup.

Hmm? Who knows more about soccer? Wenger and Lavolpe... or you?

So I predict a tie...

Mexico 2-2 U.S. of A.

(Lucho Perez, Borgetti ) (Alexis Lalas, Tony Meola) :fool:

(Alexis Lalas, Tony Meola) :fool:

That would be pretty sad for Mexico if Lalas and Meola scored on them :ewan:

Bruce says GAM can go 90, not so sure about the Beaser.

Assuming Lavolpe doesnt pull anything like vs Costa Rica, this pretty much should be our starting 11:

..........................Oswaldo

.............Márquez...Davino...Salcido

Méndez............................................ Morales

...................Pardo...Torrado/Galindo

.........................Zinha

.................Fonseca...Borgetti.

Possible Subs
Alberto Medina
Torrado/Galindo (whoever doesnt start)
Omar Bravo
Luis Perez
Gonzalo Pineda
"Maza"

Someone needs to break that Brazillian midget's legs.

Someone needs to break that Brazillian midget's legs.

That Brazilian is ALL mexican (H)

http://soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=125344&stc=1

Oooo, I'ma tell on you Paul...advertising beer 'n sh*t.

"Mexicanos al grito de gueeera, el acero a prestad del bridon
y retiemble en sus centros la tieeera el acero aprestad del bridon."

Torrado>>>G.Galindo

"Maza">?...Davino. :(

I'm leaving Charlotte for Columbus, OH in about an hour :rockman:, I couldn't find any tickets but you bet I'm gonna be standin outside the stadium with $100 in my pocket for any takers :D, wish me luck :(

good luck. Wish I could drive over there but it's too damn far. :nape:

That Brazilian is ALL mexican (H)

http://soccergaming.tv/attachment.php?attachmentid=125344&stc=1


Lambon! :rofl:

que es eso, lambon?

is gonna be terror zone for the us tomorrow, we about to turn arenas/stadiums into house of horrors lol, kinda like the last time we played against them...

anybody got more info on the mexican player Lucho Perez...i saw some of him in the Confederations Cup and the Gold Cup and he was great, should be a starter at the WC

i predict 2-1 to the states

i'm not big into international matches, but this one is always good

I predict 2-0 USA ...I'll be somewhat disappointed with anything less, even if it's a win. :hump:

fvck yeah!!

Onyewu was perfect. If that what we can expect from him against big players in big games we going to have a good defense for the WC.

poor Beas lol, should've blown by Sanchez and walked it in (6) Awesome game for him though and pretty much the whole team.

US IN THE WORLD CUP WOOT WOOT

GERMANY 06 MUTHAFCKRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

What's all the talk about defenders...

The fact is, if they don't play with all their heart against Mexico, it won't matter if they're Brazilian, German or whatever, Borguetti will find a way to score. They will have to be 100% into it, since Borguetti's getting more and more confident with every game.



I like what Lavolpe and the players said in Super Estadio (GolTV) yesterday.

They expressed the fact that they don't care about the rivalry, it's just statistics to them, but they do want to be in the WC already, and they will take this game very seriously, aiming to get the 3 points.

Lavolpe also said, he wants the team to play with alot of possession of the ball, play with intelligence not aggression, and leave no space for a counter-attack by the USA. He "plans" to play the same way as it happened in the Confed, against Brazil and Germany, and he's asking the team to show that quality again.


Well, we'll see what happens.
I'm sure now, it'll be a classic. (Y)

anybody got more info on the mexican player Lucho Perez...i saw some of him in the Confederations Cup and the Gold Cup and he was great, should be a starter at the WC

He plays for Monterrey in Mexico, and he's having a great year so far.

Has really improved alot with the NT, even though he doesn't have many fans since he's considered one of Lavope's "adopted" sons.... haha..





Anyway, why is Donovan talking smack to the Mexican press?
Doesn't he have enough enemies already (with the chivas fans), yet still wants to pick up the rest...
:fool:

Well good-luck to him, but I don't think there's a single mexican that actually gives a shít.

I'm glad Donovan is getting in the mood. This is one of the few games he actually might work hard. For better or worse he is the kind of player that only absorbs himself with games he wants to win. Which is pretty much national team games and nothing else. :fool:

anybody got more info on the mexican player Lucho Perez...i saw some of him in the Confederations Cup and the Gold Cup and he was great, should be a starter at the WC

He has been playing pretty good recently, but that only started from the Confeds cup and on. Before that a lot of people would question his call up because though he played good for his club, he never played the same for Mexico.

And i see it hard for him to start at the WC because both OMF positions are pretty much locked by Zinha and Blanco. But hell def get some playing time as an important sub.

Donovan words to mexican press are disgusting, i hate this guy he forgot his latin roots or what?, he talks better spanish than me haha, show more respect CLOWN, oo i just hate him so much

Landon is a joke as far as im concerned :lui:

oo i just hate him so much

:funny: :funny:

Landon Donovan will score 2 goals.

http://www.icb2.com/luis2k10/mexico_goals_2005.wmv

enjoy! :rockman:

any news on the starting lineups yet? or actually line-up i could care less about mexico.

imleaving in about five minutes and going to crew stadium to try and find some tickets i'll be dissapointed as hell if i dont :(

US starting lineup announced: http://www.ussoccer.com/editorial/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=233417&itype=4129&icategoryid=77

Keller
Hejduk
Onyewu
Berhalter
Lewis
Ralston
Reyna
Armas
Beasley
McBride
Donovan

Gonna go check this match out on ESPN Classic.

Our line-up is like some kind of sick joke. Get Armas and Ralston off the field right now. They're both useless.

To quote $teaua, Onyewu is a "f*cking beastiality" out there.

Oh and yeah, Frankie Hejduk must have some pictures of the ref that he's blackmailing him with.

0-0 at HT

Someone needs to tell Marquez and Hejduk to calm the fu*k down.

Fonseca hasnt done sh*t the entire first half, except draw that foul for that freekick. I seriously hope Lavolpe takes him out for either Bravo or Medina. They'll do a lot more damage.

0-0 at the half, pretty even match but I would say we've had more possession so far. If we can keep this up, I'm sure we can make the break through to get the goal. Moncho's FK was pretty good but Keller's reaction was better, if only Zinha's first touch on the through ball from Borgetti would have been better...

Oh yeah, Rafa needs to calm the **** down, if he's not careful he's going to pick up a second yellow, he's pretty lucky to still be on the field IMO.

EDIT: haha, Paul, you beat me to the Rafa comment.

Ole! Ole!

ROFLMFAO!


Home advantage?.... hahaha...



Keller made the save of the game so far, very well done.

Oswaldo looks so calm, he was even juggling the ball in front of the USA's FWs. :funny:


Marquez trying to beat the soul out of DMB. :nape:


Oh, and great work by Onyewu so far.

For God's sake Bruce, get someone on the field who can dribble. Quaranta, Dempsey, anyone. Enough of this "boot it up to McBride" bullsh*t. The only time we've looked threatening in this game is when we played the ball on the ground.

Onyewu is looking about 1,000 times better than he did at the Azteca.

I don't like this lineup/formation at all. Beas is the only bright spot of the attack right now.

Onyewu :rockman: :rockman:

We can't attack worth **** out of the right. Hejuduk defends well under pressure but too much back passing and hesitation.

A central pairing of Reyna and Armas is sure to kill off any chance we have of a counter-attack. You have one guy who can pass but passes back too much, and another guy who can't pass and passes back too much.

I just got back from the stadium, couldn't get in :( and I can't watch the game either because the people I'm staying at don't have ESPN Classic :(, I'll just have to wait until 2am tonight to watch the re-run on ESPN2.

Dan you have to ask my permission to quote just legendary words :read:

Donovan will score the winner in the 90th.

Brilliant decision by Arena in starting Ralston. Ralston is the greatest. Disregard everything I said previously.

Brilliant decision by Arena in starting Ralston. Ralston is the greatest. Disregard everything I said previously.

:D

The bossman knows best :jap:

This keeps getting better and better, doesn't it?

I wonder how long it'll take before one of our guys snaps.

DMB (H)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** that dirty ****, lazy ass foul on Beas :nape:

Beas > all :jambo:

Mexico looked lost out there :chew:

man Mexico sucked, you cant even be proud about that!!

and BEASLEY! you have to finish that.....youre not Dinho...

In the second half definitely, they took control from the beginning of the second half and didn't let up until they got both goals, guess we'll have to wait another 4 ******* years to actually win a qualifier in the US.

haha i liked beasley's impression of ronaldinho :rockman: , right up to where he missed it :kader:

Great game by the US.
Onyewu - Man of the Match.

And Arena did good in sticking with his formattion, Mexico could never penetrate it.


One and One.

I guess we'll need a tie-braker in Germany. :jambo:


Now it has become a true classic.
Whoever beats the other one in their homefield the next time around gets some real bragging rights.


(Whoever said Mexico did bad, you better watch yourself, 1 - 0 anyone?) :fool:

Our line-up is like some kind of sick joke. Get Armas and Ralston off the field right now. They're both useless.

To quote $teaua, Onyewu is a "f*cking beastiality" out there.

Oh and yeah, Frankie Hejduk must have some pictures of the ref that he's blackmailing him with.
haha

ralston did ok :hump:

Onyewu played really well, i like him a lot

DMB was getting abused out there, he must have been fouled hard like 6 or 7 times at least, at least he got some payback for it later

pretty good game :rockman:

Ole! Ole!

ROFLMFAO!


Home advantage?.... hahaha...



Keller made the save of the game so far, very well done.

Oswaldo looks so calm, he was even juggling the ball in front of the USA's FWs. :funny:


Marquez trying to beat the soul out of DMB.


Oh, and great work by Onyewu so far.


Say what biatch, say what??? :rofl:

lol, Mexico can only beat the USA in the Azteca...they get raped by the USA anywhere else.. :rofl:

What's the name of that little whining whore???
J. Borgetti.....he gave Onyewu blow-jobs all night... :rofl:
The little whining whore got ******* owned.

Onyewu is a ******* beast (H) !!!

lol, did you all hear the "ole, ole, ole" by the gringos to the Mexicans??? :rofl:

Where was the Mexican crowd??? :confused: :rofl:

Today mexico sucked AMERICAN dick... (6)

Onyewu - Man of the Match. No doubt, Borgetti was completely shut down, its not like he was going to be able to do much anyway with him personally marked by Onyewu, he had a great game.

DAMARCUS BEASLY OWNZZZZZZZZZ UUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahhahahha

US IN THE WORLD CUP WOOT WOOT

Onyewu was out of this world, marked Borgetti out of the game, and I rate Borgetti as one of the best headers of a ball in the world.

Great win, great display at the end too, soccer is the only sport you get that national passion from.

Im surprised Beasley is still alive.

First team to qualify from CONCACAF!

U-S-A!

Gooch's performance tonight was a massive improvement when compared to the first meeting. To me, how he completely took Borgetti out of the game, earned him my man of the match award.

Oh, and BTW, watch out Germany, here we come! USA! USA! USA!

A great performance by the true Kings of CONCACAF. It was an absolutely exhiliarating victory after all the arrogance coming from the Mexicant's prior to the game. Like Borgetti saying that winning was not enough for them, they wanted to "win with style". I wonder if they like losing with style?

US ratings:

Keller: 8 (wasn't called upon often, but made one crucial save)

Lewis: 8 (pretty solid at left back)
Berhalter: 8 (not flawless, but played very well)
Onyewu: 9.5 (flawless, dominating, a force in the back)
Hejduk: 8.5 (one of the best games I've ever seen him play)

Armas: 6.5 (did alright)
Reyna: 7 (he needs to be better than that)
Beasley: 8.5 (that's the Beasley we all know and love)
Ralston: 7 (gets a 1-point bump for the goal)

Donovan: 6.5 (not his best game)
McBride: 7 (won some balls in the air and was also won some fouls)

I predict 2-0 USA ...I'll be somewhat disappointed with anything less, even if it's a win. :hump:

fvck yeah!!

Onyewu was perfect. If that what we can expect from him against big players in big games we going to have a good defense for the WC.

poor Beas lol, should've blown by Sanchez and walked it in (6) Awesome game for him though and pretty much the whole team.

US IN THE WORLD CUP WOOT WOOT

GERMANY 06 MUTHAFCKRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Great game. Where does the U.S. play a game when they want a great, pro-American atmosphere? That's right, bitches. Ohio. Columbus to be specific. :junior:

I will again reiterate how much I love the way Frankie Hejduk plays. He doesn't take shít from anybody. Not Adu, not the Mexican'ts, not from anybody. You the man, Frankie.

I was really suprised that Mastroeni didn't start, but I guess it had something to do with fitness. I liked what I saw from Quaranta while he was out there. Ralston scored, but as Balboa said, he wasn't dangerous enough on the flank. I think EJ and McBride will be the forward tandem in the future, with Reyna or Donovan on the right flank.

I don't feel like rambling anymore. I'll post more random analysis later. But only if I feel like it.

Oh, yeah. Remind me to kick that Mexican't who fouled DMB in the knee. I'm gonna kick him in the knee, too, only twice as hard. I don't mind the foul to stop the flow of play, hell I was a defender, I did it enough myself. But don't just take a swing at an injury-prone body part, like the knee.

Hejduk: 8.5 (one of the best games I've ever seen him play)
I knew you'd come around one of these days. :D

I'm done with this, peace out.

Say what biatch, say what??? :rofl:

lol, Mexico can only beat the USA in the Azteca...they get raped by the USA anywhere else.. :rofl:

What's the name of that little whining whore???
J. Borgetti.....he gave Onyewu blow-jobs all night... :rofl:
The little whining whore got ******* owned.

Onyewu is a ******* beast (H) !!!

lol, did you all hear the "ole, ole, ole" by the gringos to the Mexicans??? :rofl:

Where was the Mexican crowd??? :confused: :rofl:

Today mexico sucked AMERICAN dick... (6)



-_-

...and they call themeselves football fans...



Anyway, Onyewu price just went up.

In what european league does he play?


Salcido had a great game also, considering that he had to leave the last game in the domestic league because of serious fatigue.
Today though, his meter was like on endless stamina... wow.. :fool:

He plays for Standard, in Belgium.

Anyway, Onyewu price just went up.

In what european league does he play?
He plays in Belgium, he's one of the best defenders in that league, if not the best. ManU were interested in him but the transfer didn't happen for some reason.

Whats up with ESPN showing this game at like 2AM??????? is it cause they didnt have the rights or is it because they still love thier little game they call FOOTBALL????

it wasnt even pro football it was sum college kids......

how can u pick that over a US WCQ game????? no wonder everyone laughs at the seriousness we put into the sport

A great performance by the true Kings of CONCACAF. It was an absolutely exhiliarating victory after all the arrogance coming from the Mexicant's prior to the game. Like Borgetti saying that winning was not enough for them, they wanted to "win with style". I wonder if they like losing with style?

US ratings:

:funny:

I agree with your ratings, even Hejduk, who I normally don't like was very solid. Still too much backpassing though. :)

He plays for Standard, in Belgium.


Man he did nothing in Azteca.

But today...
He just earned a spot in the top 3 of Concacaf.

Lucky Standard, I see him getting sold soon to a big club, problably in the EPL.

Dulio Davino>>>
Rafael marquez>>>>>>> Dirty Mexican asses! :nape:

Omg, that guy Davino should have been sent off for that foul on DMB. :kader:

Can you please stop talking? You're making American supporters look bad.

Azteca was a baptism of fire for Onyewu, now the guy has some experiance and look at him...

Saying Marquez is dirty, is like saying that the Chapin refs have their pockets full of money...

:rolleyes:


:fool:


Damn, we will have some serious trouble in our defence for the next game.
And Blanco needs to PLAY!!!


Or Lavolpe will get lynched.

Whats up with ESPN showing this game at like 2AM???????

the game was live but only on ESPN classic. It should have been on ABC ffs.

Saying Marquez is dirty, is like saying that Chapin refs have their pockets full of money...




he's still a dirty ass....he should have been sent off against Costa Rica and vs the US too..he elbows ppl in the face and fouls with his dirtiness.. :kader:

I think EJ and McBride will be the forward tandem in the future, with Reyna or Donovan on the right flank.

EJ and McBride up top with Beas and Don on the flanks :rockman:

HELL YEAH!!

What a freakin awesome day for sports:
Romania wins, USA wins, Blake and Agassi advance :rockman:

A great performance by the true Kings of CONCACAF. It was an absolutely exhiliarating victory after all the arrogance coming from the Mexicant's prior to the game. Like Borgetti saying that winning was not enough for them, they wanted to "win with style". I wonder if they like losing with style?

US ratings:

Keller: 8 (wasn't called upon often, but made one crucial save)

Lewis: 8 (pretty solid at left back)
Berhalter: 8 (not flawless, but played very well)
Onyewu: 9.5 (flawless, dominating, a force in the back)
Hejduk: 8.5 (one of the best games I've ever seen him play)

Armas: 6.5 (did alright)
Reyna: 7 (he needs to be better than that)
Beasley: 8.5 (that's the Beasley we all know and love)
Ralston: 7 (gets a 1-point bump for the goal)

Donovan: 6.5 (not his best game)
McBride: 7 (won some balls in the air and was also won some fouls)


You forget somebody.

Jeff Cunningham: 10

Whats up with ESPN showing this game at like 2AM??????? is it cause they didnt have the rights or is it because they still love thier little game they call FOOTBALL????

it wasnt even pro football it was sum college kids......

how can u pick that over a US WCQ game????? no wonder everyone laughs at the seriousness we put into the sport




because ncaa is just as popular as the nfl, millions more from canada and usa will watch it apose to a soccer game, i flicked ack and forth between the mexican us game, and the usc hawaii game

Saying Marquez is dirty, is like saying that the Chapin refs have their pockets full of money...



oh snapppp :lui:

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/4837126_7_2.jpg

I knew you'd come around one of these days. :D
Hey, I always give Frankie respect... when he deserves it.

-_-

...and they call themeselves football fans...



Anyway, Onyewu price just went up.

In what european league does he play?


Salcido had a great game also, considering that he had to leave the last game in the domestic league because of serious fatigue.
Today though, his meter was like on endless stamina... wow.. :fool:
belgium i think

You forget somebody.

Jeff Cunningham: 10
Haha true.

$teaua sporting the US flag avatar. (H)

You forget somebody.

Jeff Cunningham: 10

For sure. I think Arena will give him some good playtime in the remaining WCQ's. :rockman:

I seriously take my hat off to the US. Excellant game by them, they had their chances and the put em away. (Y)

Davino has no business with the natl team, and Torrado, Galindo and Fonseca did absolutely nothing today. Zinha could dribble the ball but he was always too late with the pass. Borgetti had Onyewu on his ass all night, and our only possible attacks were on the left through Morales.

Blanco is a must, i dont give a fu*k what he says or does, u call him up even if its a friendly vs a crappy country like... oh i dont know... Venezuela.

But again, great game by the US. (Y)

Great 2nd Half by the U.S.

Beasley played a great game (except that one miss(6)) along with the American back four. (Y)

Fun game to watch at a neutral stand-point, It looked like a great atmosphere in the stadium :)


Oh and Vitu, stop posting, you're making an ass out of yourself.

Every Mexican on this board should be ashamed of their team. As a Bolton supporter I was looking forward to seeing Borgetti play. Unfortunately he got no service, as the midfield was far more interested in committing fouls than they were creating chances. I expect that kind of play from the minnows in CONCACAF, but to see Mexico dive and hack DMB (who was just back from injury) like that is awful. I also think FIFA needs to take a serious look at the refereeing in CONCACAF, I think they're just too used to the non-football that so many teams play. Mexico should have been down to nine or ten men. Good work by Hejduk to knee that guy in the groin and get away with it, we can't be taking this anymore. Beasley is lucky he can still walk.

But enough ranting, we're going to Germany!

No kidding, CONCACAF has the worst refs I've ever seen. I still can't believe how bad the reffing was in the Gold Cup. :nape:

But enough ranting, we're going to Germany!
BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://members.cox.net/brybo92/dc.jpg

CONCACAF needs to send all the referees on a vacation to Europe so they can watch some top-flight games and see what soccer is actually supposed to look like. I think they will be surprised to find that you are supposed to kick the ball, and not the back of your opponent's knee.

Great 2nd half from the USA and it was great to see a sell out game for such an important match. And for the first time i was rooting for the USA and i believe at long last after living my entire life in the USA and watching Soccer for the most part i am a USA national team fan.

$teaua sporting the US flag avatar. (H)

Hell yeah baby (H) representin'

But again, great game by the US. (Y)
I want to thank you and other Mexican fans on here for being gracious in defeat (unlike your coach ;) ).

I want to thank you and other Mexican fans on here for being gracious in defeat (unlike your coach ;) ). Haha, no doubt, I just read his comments. (H)

But wait a minute! Here's Landon Donovan, not to be outdone:
"They suck. They made it easy for us. I expected more from them. At least for the next three or four years, they'll shut up. They can't say anything."
Normally I wouldn't mind this that much, but Calrissian was one of our worst players out there. If anyone has the right to brag, it's Gooch.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20050904/i/2702669440.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/8855/pdvd0001ga.png

Stolen from BS before Dan could.

\o gangsta legend

Stolen from BS before Dan could.

\o gangsta legend
That's my new BS avatar.

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/image.php?u=37210&dateline=1125814890

(H)

I would've been mine too except I didn't pay 12 bucks.

Doesn't BS have a free lunch thing for poor people?

Doesn't BS have a free lunch thing for poor people?
Not for Afghans they don't. :(

"They suck. They made it easy for us. I expected more from them. At least for the next three or four years, they'll shut up. They can't say anything."

:Bow:

Typical.

Hahah, those highlights of Gooch and Borgetti are classic. :funny:

Forget man of the match, Gooch is man of the year! Gooch! Gooch! Gooch!

wat a fuccen shame, that sh!t reminded me of our last wc game, fucc the mexican national team, as long as that punk argentian stays runnin things i aint supportin our national team no more, serious sh!t, and did all you mexicans forgot wat happened at the gold cup couse i sure havent, how the fucc is he gonna call medina up when he fuccen aint doin sh!t, he was ghost at the the gold cup and he wasnt able to do sh!t last nite, how the fucc is his stupettt ass gonna picc medina over blanco...

He didnt pick Medina over Blanco, they dont even play the same position. And guess what? Lavolpe wasnt the one playing, it was the players. Aside from Blanco, Pardo and Guille... those players there yesterday are the best players we can call up. Its not a matter of the coach, is that we have no other good players to call up.

And if they fire Lavolpe... Marquez, Davino, Torrado and Zinha all said they wont play the WC. And i dont know about u, but Marquez is kinda important to us.

And I didnt forget what happened at the Gold Cup... with a squad that wasnt our strongest. Mio was the starting GK for christ's sake.

Mexico (5-1-1) still needs another point in its final three games to make Germany 2006. Its coach, Ricardo Lavolpe, was not impressed by the winners.

"The U.S. is a small team," he said. "They play like my sister, my aunt and my grandmother."


******* douchebag.

You have one win against us, you cocksucker.

**** Lavolpe. USA deserve respect from everyone. They really out did themselves last night. Awesome win (Y)

Mexico (5-1-1) still needs another point in its final three games to make Germany 2006. Its coach, Ricardo Lavolpe, was not impressed by the winners.

"The U.S. is a small team," he said. "They play like my sister, my aunt and my grandmother."

That's BS, I bet that asshat's sister aunt and grandmother would hack and foul and cheat just like everyone else between the Rio Grande and Columbia

Mexico (5-1-1) still needs another point in its final three games to make Germany 2006. Its coach, Ricardo Lavolpe, was not impressed by the winners.

"The U.S. is a small team," he said. "They play like my sister, my aunt and my grandmother."


******* douchebag.

You have one win against us, you cocksucker.

He also said ur a small team cuz "small teams" as soon as they score they fall back and do nothing but defend from then on.

As soon as we scored, we scored another one five minutes later. And then we could have scored a couple more after that.

We defended alright. It could of easily been 4-0.

Good job Lavolpe. :nape:

Hes known for his temper, so I dont really pay atention to a lot of what he says. Once when he started coaching Toluca he left until they got rid of two players he didnt want. He came back the next day, they were still there, and he left again. haha :D

He also said ur a small team cuz "small teams" as soon as they score they fall back and do nothing but defend from then on.

since when was Chelsea a small team????

"The U.S. is a small team," he said. "They play like my sister, my aunt and my grandmother."

lmao... :funny: how could any US supporter be offended by this mindless crap?
Go tell someone who cares. :funny:

Mexico should have been down to nine or ten men. Good work by Hejduk to knee that guy in the groin and get away with it, we can't be taking this anymore. Beasley is lucky he can still walk.

Yeah, nice logic there...
The only dirty Mexican-Player in this squad is Marquez. Davino never ment to hurt DMB, and barely touched him, but he's an experienced player, and he did what many defenders do. Maza can barely stay with the payers, lets not even go there. Salcido was clean all night, see the nice tackle against DMB?.




Anyway, I just saw the replay of the game today, and the U.S. seriously wasted so many opportunities, it's not even funny. :nape:


Oh, and congratulations to the gut-less Chapin Refeeres, I'm sure you're enjoying your money by now.

The first USA goal was clearly an outside, when Onyewu heads the ball into the post, Ralston is already in an off-side position, and the linesman was right there!, he clearly saw it, then you can see in the replay how after the USA starts to celebrate ,He's too afraid to lift the flag!.



Not taking anything away from your win, just some observations.

clap your hands if your going to the world cup...

:clap:

Hes known for his temper, so I dont really pay atention to a lot of what he says. Once when he started coaching Toluca he left until they got rid of two players he didnt want. He came back the next day, they were still there, and he left again. haha :D
hahaha :)

The first USA goal was clearly an outside, when Onyewu heads the ball into the post, Ralston is already in an off-side position, and the linesman was right there!, he clearly saw it, then you can see in the replay how after the USA starts to celebrate ,He's too afraid to lift the flag!. I'm pretty sure Maza was the one who headed the ball into the post. Just forget it man, its over. We've got to focus on Panama, one point and we're qualified and that's all that matters now.

And yeah, don't pay attention to anything Lavolpe says, its amusing at best.

here are some pics and short video from the game.

http://www.jusspress.com/day.php?userid=23439&currentDate=20050903&imageNum=0

I need at least 3 goals vs Panama at the empty Azteca (u better believe its gonna be relatively empty) to sort of get over this loss.

And like Beto said, theres no use crying over spilled mlik. Whats done is done, they got the 3 pts, theyre in Germany... we'll be there Wednesday though. ;)

Yeah, nice logic there...
The only dirty Mexican-Player in this squad is Marquez. Davino never ment to hurt DMB, and barely touched him, but he's an experienced player, and he did what many defenders do. Maza can barely stay with the payers, lets not even go there. Salcido was clean all night, see the nice tackle against DMB?.




Anyway, I just saw the replay of the game today, and the U.S. seriously wasted so many opportunities, it's not even funny. :nape:


Oh, and congratulations to the gut-less Chapin Refeeres, I'm sure you're enjoying your money by now.

The first USA goal was clearly an outside, when Onyewu heads the ball into the post, Ralston is already in an off-side position, and the linesman was right there!, he clearly saw it, then you can see in the replay how after the USA starts to celebrate ,He's too afraid to lift the flag!.



Not taking anything away from your win, just some observations.

Wow I know that feeling all to well man, it's called bitterness.

clap your hands if your going to the world cup...

:clap:


clap, Mexico on wednesday vs Panama.... :rockman: :rockman:

Wow I know that feeling all to well man, it's called bitterness.

...what the hell...

...ah, forget it...



I think the Mexican media is starting to over do it.

"Oh, bo bo, we lost playing in their country"

Lavolpe did well, the players tried, there was nothing that could be done against the good defence, enough.
We'll roll over Panama, we're in the WC aswell, and that's that.

clap, Mexico on wednesday vs Panama.... :rockman: :rockman:

Panama is gonna own you...



...just kidding :fool:

"They suck." - Landon Donovan.

Right back at ya, Lavolpe. hahahahaha

I need at least 3 goals vs Panama at the empty Azteca (u better believe its gonna be relatively empty) to sort of get over this loss.

And like Beto said, theres no use crying over spilled milk. Whats done is done, they got the 3 pts, theyre in Germany... we'll be there Wednesday though.;) Yup, I'm thinking the Azteca will probably not get full 'cause of this loss but I think we'll end up beating them by at least 2 goals and every body is gonna be back on the bandwagon.

As for Rafa sayin he wouldn't play for Mexico if Lapolpe gets fired, I don't think he meant it to piss people off...I think he's trying to get the point ocross to Hugo Sanchez that Ricardo is OUR coach and not Hugo.

Congrats to the U.S. of A. NT. :)