View Full Version : 2005 kit coverter to 2006????
donovanfan3456 20-09-2005, 09:31:PM Is it possible to make some sort of converter that makes 2005 kits to 2006 format? It seems that the basic shapes of each part is the same as 2005, but just stretched differently. If that's the case, then it's just a matter of changing positions around and restretching things.
Can anybody make such a graphics converter???
djgperu1 20-09-2005, 09:43:PM There is actually 1 problem..... the Long sleeves, the FIFA 2005 templates dont have it, but it is sometimes different than the short sleeves :jambo:
FIFA 2005 kits do have long sleeves.
Rinaldo 12-10-2005, 09:35:AM Is it possible to make some sort of converter that makes 2005 kits to 2006 format? It seems that the basic shapes of each part is the same as 2005, but just stretched differently. If that's the case, then it's just a matter of changing positions around and restretching things.
Can anybody make such a graphics converter???
Hi Donovan, I had the same idea and I posted it on anitalian forum but some expert kit makers said me that it should not be very useful because of the distortion and blurr introduced. What do you think about it ?
Couse I am not a kit maker at all, if we want to make a try, I should need map of which area of a 2005 kit should be mapped in which area of a 2006 kit. Then I will write a short program taking care of all the scale factors and interpolation.
[mouta-FCP] 12-10-2005, 10:30:AM 2005 template sucks, it makes the back of the kit ****ty...
Billy1969 12-10-2005, 10:57:AM I'd like that also a 2005 to 06 kit converter because I have a truckload of 2005 kits sitting on my hard disk :)
donovanfan3456 12-10-2005, 02:23:PM Hi Donovan, I had the same idea and I posted it on anitalian forum but some expert kit makers said me that it should not be very useful because of the distortion and blurr introduced. What do you think about it ?
Couse I am not a kit maker at all, if we want to make a try, I should need map of which area of a 2005 kit should be mapped in which area of a 2006 kit. Then I will write a short program taking care of all the scale factors and interpolation.
Well, for me, I not too concerned about the blurr. I mean, I just want to easily convert my USL 2005 kits to 2006 format. Also I have many other national teams from 2005 that could be used also for the ISP patch. I'm not a kit maker on the extreme sense, where everything has to be perfect. I make kits, there average I would say, but not bad.
Right now, it takes me about 15 min to a half an hour to convert one kit. So for just my USL league alone a kit converter may save me 20 hours. But I don't know if making a utility will take that long to make.
As for mapping, it would only be important to make sure the cuts from the 2005 kit would match up exactly with the 2006, and look good in game, example: addidas stripes down the sides lining up. on the shoulders and sleeves. That may take a little tickering, but once the utility is perfected, I think it would save a huge amount of time for patch makers, I may even add Copa Libertadores, and All qualification zones in the ISP if I can convert kits quickly. Because all the teams have been made for 2005.
I don't want to put a huge burden on kit makers, especially for kits that have already been made. \
Well, my basic opinion, 2005 kits look ok in game converted to 2006. And having a slightly blurred kit is better than having none.
Just my opinion, I can help with the mapping. I already know what peices go where if that's what you wondering. but I don't know pixel size right now, I guess I could figure that out somehow. But pixel size isn't as important as placement.
All my kits I have of 2005 are basically 2gk, so I would want to convert to 2gk to 2gk if possible.
I would love to see a utility like this.
janus 12-10-2005, 04:31:PM Great Idea, mates!
Here are the maps for 2005 and 2006 kits!
JANUS
PS: Sorry, I have just seen that the 2005 map is in German!
Rinaldo 12-10-2005, 10:48:PM Great Idea, mates!
Here are the maps for 2005 and 2006 kits!
JANUS
PS: Sorry, I have just seen that the 2005 map is in German!
2006 map is exactly what I need because there is the size of each area, I should need the same map also for 2005 kits, possibly both 1Gk e 2GK.
Thanks in afvance.
Sundsvall 13-10-2005, 04:17:PM because the back is so small in fifa 2005 2GK, it will look to bad on the 1gk template,and **** on the 2gk template
because the back is so small in fifa 2005 2GK, it will look to bad on the 1gk template,and **** on the 2gk template
better than nothing and it will be a solution 'till all the kits are made again for fifa06
Sundsvall 13-10-2005, 05:24:PM its simple,if i whant a kit to my game i just make it so i dont need that tool :D
its simple,if i whant a kit to my game i just make it so i dont need that tool :D
When you'll be making tools like Rinaldo is doing, you'll have the right to speak
:boohoo: 16year's old :kader:
Rinaldo 13-10-2005, 11:59:PM The program is done. Download beta version at:
http://file.webalice.it/
User rzocca
Pwd FM06-beta
Billy1969 14-10-2005, 12:13:AM The program is done. Download beta version at:
http://file.webalice.it/
User rzocca
Pwd FM06-beta
All bow down to the master! superb job!
There is one little thing though, when I exported from Fifa 2005 1024 x 512 (2GK) to Fifa06 768x768 (2GK) the file wasn't big enough (somehow the number of bytes weren't correct) but when I opened in paint shop pro, just saved it, it asked me if I was sure to reconvert to .bmp (although the file is bmp!) I click yes and hopla, the size of the file is corrected. This should work in paint also and I didn't check the 1gk conversion method yet.
Rinaldo 14-10-2005, 09:53:AM All bow down to the master! superb job!
There is one little thing though, when I exported from Fifa 2005 1024 x 512 (2GK) to Fifa06 768x768 (2GK) the file wasn't big enough (somehow the number of bytes weren't correct) but when I opened in paint shop pro, just saved it, it asked me if I was sure to reconvert to .bmp (although the file is bmp!) I click yes and hopla, the size of the file is corrected. This should work in paint also and I didn't check the 1gk conversion method yet.
Mmm, I don't think it is the pixel size but probably the pixel format, I choose 32 bit R,G,B and alpha but maybe it is better to use R,G,B only. This version works only with BMP so you need a tool to convert from BMP to FSH, which tool are you using ? I'll do a check with it.
Hi Rinaldo,
There is a little problem for me too.
The convertor saves perfectly from fifa2205 2gk to fifa06 1GK or 2GK
But then I cannot open the new bmp with paint shop or photoshop . it say me " unknown format "
I have to resave the 06 bmp with paint as 24 bit bmp.
so it's maybe a problem with your 32 bit resolution
jm
RobbieD_PL 14-10-2005, 10:49:AM How do I make a .fsh file for new teams kits' eg Netherlands 105035. after converting a 1GK? NB fshtool gives me a "truncated file?" error message
Billy1969 14-10-2005, 11:03:AM Mmm, I don't think it is the pixel size but probably the pixel format, I choose 32 bit R,G,B and alpha but maybe it is better to use R,G,B only. This version works only with BMP so you need a tool to convert from BMP to FSH, which tool are you using ? I'll do a check with it.
I convert from a fifa 2005 kit .bmp to a fifa06 .bmp I don't convert them to .fsh
In fact I have the same thing going as Jomi explains in this thread, I have to open the created Fifa06 kit (coverted from the 2005 one) in Paint Shop Pro, just save it (do nothing else) and then the format gets corrected and I can import it with Kitraptor.
Just to prove it works and it's looking good, here's Hawk's Ascoli kit he made a few days ago for Fifa2005, converted and imported to 06
Edit : Btw, I just noticed something, the sleeves on the converted kit look a lot sharper than the "original made for" Fifa06 ones, just look at Kaka's sleeve on the screenshot, the Serie A logo is blurred while on the Ascoli kit it's perfectly clear, even from farther away, strange!
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3675/ascoli4fj.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ascoli4fj.jpg)
Rinaldo 14-10-2005, 12:30:PM Uploaded a new version that should fix the .bmp compatibility with other programs. Let me know.
Uploaded a new version that should fix the .bmp compatibility with other programs. Let me know.
Tutto bene maestro
:)
it works perfect now either 1G or 2G (Y)
Seems to me that 1G is sharper as 2G so it will save me space in my z-datas
curswine 14-10-2005, 01:10:PM Edit : Btw, I just noticed something, the sleeves on the converted kit look a lot sharper than the "original made for" Fifa06 ones, just look at Kaka's sleeve on the screenshot, the Serie A logo is blurred while on the Ascoli kit it's perfectly clear, even from farther away, strange!
That is probably because Kaka' is using longsleeves and the Ascoli player shorts sleeves, although it does look a little bit clearer. How good does the back look after using this process?
Rinaldo 14-10-2005, 02:53:PM The back of course appears a little bit blurred in the 2006 kit format but, in the game, it cannot be worst then how it appeared in FIFA 2005. I think that an expert kit maker could easily sharp it saving anyway a lot of time instead of starting from scratch.
Another topic: in order to speed up the creation of new patches for FIFA 2006, what about a "Player Converter 526" ? Extract players from 2005 database and import them in 2006 (including face maybe).
Billy1969 14-10-2005, 03:07:PM That is probably because Kaka' is using longsleeves and the Ascoli player shorts sleeves, although it does look a little bit clearer. How good does the back look after using this process?
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8920/screen014yu.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen014yu.jpg)
As you can see, the font doesn't fit in the white circle on the kit, which it did using the same font in Fifa2005 (I altered it in the db, the yellow giant font was killing my eyes lol), so I guess it is streched a bit, but this it won't be of importance in 90% of the kits (who use plain colors or stripes and no geometric figures to put the fonts in)
Edit : I just looked in Fifa2005 and the font didn't in fact fit perfectly inside the cirlce either, so never mind, I guess I'll have to look for a smaller font :)
Billy1969 14-10-2005, 03:17:PM Another topic: in order to speed up the creation of new patches for FIFA 2006, what about a "Player Converter 526" ? Extract players from 2005 database and import them in 2006 (including face maybe).
That would be very nice indeed, but I think the Fifa2005 face .o files are not compatible with 06, you might have a problem there, however to make new league patches this would certainly be great!
Now, I'm going to preach for my own church a bit, as a sound patcher, but it would be so nice if you would care to take a look at possibly making a chant importer for Fifa06, Rinaldo. Importing the files by hand is a really tough task and lots of people have trouble with it, even with Andy's tutorial (especialy since the file structure for the chants changed from fifa demo to full version this year), making the chant raptor and other previous importers for Fifa2005 incompatible...
Of course if you have other projects I understand, but it would be nice if you could consider it :)
Ok, now enough of topic, I'll write about the kits here again, I promise heheh
edit : went to the donwload site for the new version of kit converter, but the directory is empty atm, I'll try again later.
FI.Matthijs 14-10-2005, 03:54:PM Post removed
Rinaldo 14-10-2005, 04:50:PM Finally I understood that, after a certain number of downloads, the files are deleted automatically by my server (sigh!), so I am going to upload them periodically.
Billy: about the sound importer, did you try the beta version of my "Fifa File Master 06" ? I am not an expert so you should let me know what you need in order to import chants ? Send me an e-mail and I'll think about it.
pede54 14-10-2005, 05:09:PM Fantastic job Rinaldo......well done mate.........thanks....... :rockman:
Sundsvall 14-10-2005, 05:14:PM wow this is great!if i whant a design i made for 2005 i just import the kit,get the 06 kit,and make the kit like it is on the converted template:D
wow this is great!if i whant a design i made for 2005 i just import the kit,get the 06 kit,and make the kit like it is on the converted template:D
See, not bad that tool after all
;) :p :)
Keegan 14-10-2005, 05:32:PM See, not bad that tool after all
;) :p :)
He never said it was a bad tool, Jomi... but he's a kitmaker by trade... ;)
Sundsvall 14-10-2005, 06:02:PM well i will never use the kits after convert them,they are way to blurry,but i can remake them easier now,just make the lines etc, like the converted one :)
Billy1969 14-10-2005, 06:41:PM well i will never use the kits after convert them,they are way to blurry,but i can remake them easier now,just make the lines etc, like the converted one :)
Yep, but you got to admit the converted kits are still way better than the default EA ones :)
Sundsvall 14-10-2005, 08:19:PM yes the 1gk ones is better,and many ea kits is wrong so... :)
Sundsvall 14-10-2005, 09:52:PM is there any chance you can make a tool wick convert the fifa 06 kits to fifa manager kits? the fifa manager kits looks like this:http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/4001/untitled14ad.png (http://imageshack.us)
as you see the socks is where the sleeves is on the fifa kit...this would be great for all the fifa manager fans so they have a chance to get new kits to their game... :ewan:
Rinaldo 14-10-2005, 10:54:PM I have released it for public use, so the beta version is no longer available.
I will give precedence to sweetpatch and fifamania.it but other publisher are welcome.
For the friends of Fifa International: I appreciate if you remove your downloadable copy of the beta version.
For Alex: maybe in the future, it will not be a big job but now I prefere to work on FIFA 06.
Thanks to all the testers.
Sundsvall 15-10-2005, 12:06:AM okay rinaldo,i really think you made a great work :rockman:
ForZ@FCK 15-10-2005, 12:09:AM Thx!!! Fantastic that we can still use some of the great kits made for fifa 04 and 05 :)
fiordy 15-10-2005, 10:52:AM Hi Rinaldo! I would like to test your great program for coverting kits, but I can't find it anywhere. I looked on fifamania, sweetpatch and your server but found nothing. Can you help me? Maybe you could post it to me (fiordy@inwind.it) or tell me a location to download it. Thanx a lot. :ewan:
Rinaldo 15-10-2005, 02:41:PM Hi Rinaldo! I would like to test your great program for coverting kits, but I can't find it anywhere. I looked on fifamania, sweetpatch and your server but found nothing. Can you help me? Maybe you could post it to me (fiordy@inwind.it) or tell me a location to download it. Thanx a lot. :ewan:
E' già disponibile su Fifamania.it
fiordy 15-10-2005, 09:40:PM Grazie carissimo!!! :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:
donovanfan3456 15-10-2005, 10:02:PM Rinaldo,
I just want to say thanks, I haven't tested the tool yet, but It's going to save me a huge amount of time. And I'm going to be able to make all the patches I had in 2005 for 2006, because I'm already coverting the database. And the majority of the work was converting the kits. And I'm going to even be able to expand some of the patches like the International Super Patch for 2006 is going to have a lot of teams, because I already have all the teams to all regions except for asia on my hard drive. And Asia, I probably have 12 or so.
I'm glad we thought of this idea, I wish I knew how you made these things, I'm going to give my comments to you later concerning quality of placement of the graphics.
donovanfan3456 15-10-2005, 10:08:PM I'm having the same problem, I can't find where to download it.
donovanfan3456 15-10-2005, 10:35:PM http://www.fifamania.it/
I downloaded it here
Rinaldo 22-10-2005, 09:19:PM Coming soon the version 1.1 that supports Fifa Manager Kits.
pede54 23-10-2005, 01:36:AM How 'bout fifa 06 kits to fifa 2005 kits?......still plenty of people playing 2005 ..... :ewan:
RobbieD_PL 23-10-2005, 01:38:AM And UCL kits ? a 3-way kits converter :chew: :rockman:
Sundsvall 23-10-2005, 11:55:AM yeah,a big program,you can convert cl kits to fifa06,fifa 2005 and fifa06 kits to cl,fifa 2005.......
hdabmx 25-10-2005, 05:10:AM Any chance you can update the tool to transform fifa06 pc kits to fifa06 xbox?
This is the template.
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/1694/template067hl.png
Thanks.
Sundsvall 25-10-2005, 09:06:AM isnt that the uefa cl template to?
donovanfan3456 28-10-2005, 09:36:PM Thanks for the great tool!!!!!
hdabmx 29-10-2005, 02:50:AM Similar but not the same.
I hope you can do it. Thanks.
FIFA 06 XBOX
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/1694/template067hl.png
UEFA CL
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7238/acmilan3ur.png
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