http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=346310&cc=5901

Just shut up, Freddy. You weren't going to be on the WC roster anyways. :boohoo:

But I suspect this man will be:

http://www.soccernet.com/images/us/hejduk_0907_inline.jpg

(H)

In fact, I would have rated Brian "Porn Star" Mullan's chances of making the roster much better than Freddy The Little Bitch's.

the lad is still 16, and not yet ready for the WC im afraid :nape:

Freddy Adu IS a little bitch.

This kid needs to shut his damn mouth and learn some respect. There was no way he was going to make the senior team even if he played well this year. He needs to realize that he is NOT the next Pele and is not even the best young prospect in thw world.

What the **** are you guys talking about? Read the damn article and you can see that he's complaining about the lack of playing time at D.C. United and he's very right about that, he's not getting a lotta minutes and isn't starting games like he was earlier in the season. Soccernet does a great job at writing misleading articles and does it again this time. There's only one small reference to a possible WC-squad selection, one that obviously came after the reporter asked about it. Read along children."That's definitely killed my chances," Adu said. "Bruce has said it a million times that he's not going to bring anybody in that's not playing regularly for his club team."See? Again, his main complaint is about his status at D.C. United, NOT the senior USMNT team.

Brian: you support the Columbus Crew. Remember the game against us on May 7th? I'm talking about the game in which Adu finished as MOTM with 1 goal and 1 assist. Yeah, and Hedjuk sucks (H)

I'm with Arash on this one.

The truth is that Freddy deserves more playing time than Nowak is willing to give him - especially with Esky missing for most of the season. Obviously there's tensions between Nowak and Adu.

There have already been rumors of an Adu-for-Gaven trade with the MetroStars, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

Adu is right to bitch, and I'm glad he did - we need some controversy in this league, dammit.

Adu won't be staying very long with United, that's for sure.

It's simply a matter of where he's going.

Freddy Adu IS a little bitch.

Mexicans critisizing our players and MLS really bothers me for some reason.

How many succesfull 15-year old rookies have you had in your league? The kid is frustrated because of lack of playing time. I think his frustration is warranted with all the hype around him.

Eskandarian got hurt on a dirty play and the keeper should have been banned for awhile.

Off topic, but true.

Mexicans critisizing our players and MLS really bothers me for some reason.

How many succesfull 15-year old rookies have you had in your league? The kid is frustrated because of lack of playing time. I think his frustration is warranted with all the hype around him.

Carlos Vela. (H)

Hes too good to even play in the Mexican league, already on his way to Europe. Golden boot at Peru. And a 15 year old either played in the MLS because hes THAT good, the MLS sucks THAT much... or the league just wanted some attention.

MLS needs me.

I'm the anti-micro striker.

And a 15 year old either played in the MLS because hes THAT good, the MLS sucks THAT much... or the league just wanted some attention.
D) All of the above

Honestly, how many 10 year old leagues are amazing? The NHL had 6 teams when it started. And it sure as hell wasnt a popular, succesfull league in 1925.

I cant stand it when people tell me that the MLS sucks.

The worst part about this is that we're ****ed if we're gonna trade because we'd get **** in return.

What team would trade an above average player for a 16-year old who doesn't even start for his team?

What team would trade an above average player for a 16-year old who doesn't even start for his team?
Just about every team in the league.

Seriously, I would not be concerned at all about it. DC will definitely get a good player in return.

I doubt very much that he is even gonna leave DC anytime soon, the kids not goin anywhere until he's 18.

MLS is not even a League, IMO. Four Reasons: 1. Only 12 teams 2. 8 out of the 12 qualify for playoffs 3. No relegation 4. No promotion.... You can call it Major League Soccer but that this still doesnt make you a league IMO....

MLS is not even a League, IMO. Four Reasons: 1. Only 12 teams 2. 8 out of the 12 qualify for playoffs 3. No relegation 4. No promotion.... You can call it Major League Soccer but that this still doesnt make you a league IMO....

Major League Soccer...is....10....years....old.

Did England start off in 1905 with the EPL, Championship, 1st div, 2nd div, conference, 20 teams per division, with relegation and promotion?

What the **** are you guys talking about? Read the damn article and you can see that he's complaining about the lack of playing time at D.C. United and he's very right about that, he's not getting a lotta minutes and isn't starting games like he was earlier in the season. Soccernet does a great job at writing misleading articles and does it again this time. There's only one small reference to a possible WC-squad selection, one that obviously came after the reporter asked about it. Read along children.See? Again, his main complaint is about his status at D.C. United, NOT the senior USMNT team.

Brian: you support the Columbus Crew. Remember the game against us on May 7th? I'm talking about the game in which Adu finished as MOTM with 1 goal and 1 assist. Yeah, and Hedjuk sucks (H)
Ask Bobby why I made this thread and he'll say "To piss Arash off." And I'd say it was successful. (H)

Major League Soccer...is....10....years....old.

Did England start off in 1905 with the EPL, Championship, 1st div, 2nd div, conference, 20 teams per division, with relegation and promotion?

Naw, 1880 something, 12 team first division. No second division at the time.

well... in some way... i do think that malaysia national player is better than him... :jap:

Major League Soccer...is....10....years....old.

Did England start off in 1905 with the EPL, Championship, 1st div, 2nd div, conference, 20 teams per division, with relegation and promotion?


And not to mention that it's trying to exist and thrive in the most hostile environment for the sport of soccer in the world while competing with multi-billion dollar leagues who've all been around atleast for more than a half a century.

NFL
NASCAR
MLB
NBA
NHL


In Europe, what other sports really come even remotely close to giving Soccer a run for its money when it comes to the interests of the viewers?


America would easily be neck and neck if not better than Brazil in soccer if it weren't for the massive popularity and influence of the NFL, NBA, and the MLB. Most of the country's great athletes (aside from the Track and Fielders), are siphoned off by those three sports. So, if soccer was afforded a tenth of those sports' mass appeal, the MLS would no doubt in my mind be a top five league in the world.

MLS is not even a League, IMO. Four Reasons: 1. Only 12 teams 2. 8 out of the 12 qualify for playoffs 3. No relegation 4. No promotion.... You can call it Major League Soccer but that this still doesnt make you a league IMO....
league (leeg)
n.

2. Sports. An association of teams or clubs that compete chiefly among themselves.

Wow, did you see all the stuff in there about how many teams there should be in your league, how many should qualify for the playoffs and whether they should have relegation/promotion?

Whether you think MLS is a league or not, it has produced players who have consistenty beaten the Mexican players produced by the Mexican league in the last 5 years.

Is that Ghana I hear calling again? :ewan:

league (leeg)
n.

2. Sports. An association of teams or clubs that compete chiefly among themselves.

Wow, did you see all the stuff in there about how many teams there should be in your league, how many should qualify for the playoffs and whether they should have relegation/promotion?

Whether you think MLS is a league or not, it has produced players who have consistenty beaten the Mexican players produced by the Mexican league in the last 5 years.

Dont even talk about the national teams because IMO both teams are in equal terms at the moment. Mexico beat you in el estadio Azteca (home) and the u.s. beat mexico at Columbus (away).

And we beat you in Korea. If you want an indication of how the leagues stand in terms of player production, look at how many former American MLS players now play in European leagues versus the number of Mexicans from the Mexican League. Off the top of my head, I can think of Beasley and Gibbs in the Dutch League, Friedel, Bocanegra and McBride in the EPL, and there are several players in the Scandanavian Leagues at the moment. As for Mexicans, I can only think of two: Borgetti at Bolton and Marquez at Barca. Now, maybe I'm missing some guys, but it seems that MLS is doing a pretty darn good job of developing players, in relation to the Mexican League.

Another thread that has dissolved into a discussion about MLS itself.

I say we ignore the next person who brings up points that have been extensively been debated (and proven wrong).

I just want to ask Flyer one question...

How many years must a league exist before we can talk about how crappy it is? U always bring up the age of the league to defend it, so tell me how long u think its fair to wait before saying its crap?

And we beat you in Korea. If you want an indication of how the leagues stand in terms of player production, look at how many former American MLS players now play in European leagues versus the number of Mexicans from the Mexican League. Off the top of my head, I can think of Beasley and Gibbs in the Dutch League, Friedel, Bocanegra and McBride in the EPL, and there are several players in the Scandanavian Leagues at the moment. As for Mexicans, I can only think of two: Borgetti at Bolton and Marquez at Barca. Now, maybe I'm missing some guys, but it seems that MLS is doing a pretty darn good job of developing players, in relation to the Mexican League. You have a valid point about you guys having more players in Europe than we do but that's not to say that we don't have any talented players or aren't developing any. The main problem is that our clubs make it extremely difficult for any of our players to go over to Europe by asking for outrages transfer fees when the opportunity arises. I'm pretty sure we'd have more players abroad if it weren't for the fact that Mexican clubs are greedy bastards. Just thought I'd mention this.

And we beat you in Korea. If you want an indication of how the leagues stand in terms of player production, look at how many former American MLS players now play in European leagues versus the number of Mexicans from the Mexican League. Off the top of my head, I can think of Beasley and Gibbs in the Dutch League, Friedel, Bocanegra and McBride in the EPL, and there are several players in the Scandanavian Leagues at the moment. As for Mexicans, I can only think of two: Borgetti at Bolton and Marquez at Barca. Now, maybe I'm missing some guys, but it seems that MLS is doing a pretty darn good job of developing players, in relation to the Mexican League.You're not developing better players than us, maybe "more" but not better.

Paul has said this over and over, but if I have to repeat it. In the Mexican League, players earn very good salaries compared to MLS (16,000 dollars is lowest salary) or even Brazilian/Argentinian League. The reason why not alot of Mexican players are playin in Europe (example: Blanco, Arellano, Torrado, Sanchez) is because they basically earn the same amount that they would earn in Europe and they probably wouldn't be guaranteed a starting spot like what happened to Cuahtemoc at Valladolid. Santos of Brazil tried to offer some amount under the 3 million dollar contract that he has w/ Chivas so he rejected going to play for them if it mean not getting another chance immigrate to the old continent.

This week Carlos Vela will travel to England (mainly) then to other countries like Italy, Spain, and Portugal to see if he gets a contract offer. Apparently the best offer so far is from Arsenal and Chelsea...his reasong for going to Enland first.

I doubt the US will have "that" many more players than Mexico after the '06 WC, (Salcido, O.Rojas, J. Corona, are some player we'll probably see in Europe.)

Its just not fair to critisize a young league.

The MLS will be a great league when we have:
-20 teams
-a soccer-specific stadium for each team (imo, max 20,000 seat stadiums) Crew, Galaxy, Chivas, FC Dallas have one. Metros, Fire, RSL have one coming. I dont mind Spartan Stadium for the Earthquakes. DC, Kansas City, Revs, Rapids need to start planning now. I hate the idea of MLS teams playing in football stadiums.

and the most important one:
-better attendance. I want to see the stadiums filled for every game. Nothing less than 15k for every game.

We will have to wait around 10-15 years for this.

if adu moves to mancheseter, he'll get even less playing time. what a 'tard.

adu needs to focus on his football and zap his ego a bit. hes 16 for ****s sake!

http://www.actustar.com/galeries/victoiresdelamusique2001/2/sade.jpg



His wife.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/20/AR2005102001884.html

Arena says there's a strong likelyhood Adu will be in camp.

"He won't be [invited] if he keeps running his mouth and tries to punch out his coach."

The Bruce (H)

I think he should be starting every game too, but why didnt he wait untill after the playoffs to start complaining?

And The Bruce should wait untill after the World Cup to call him in. Theres a number of attacking midfielders that should get better looks before Freddy Adu.

I think a team needs a stadium that's a total hellhole, those are the best.

I'm serious, they make for intemidating atmospheres.

You're so ******* random.

dude was suspended for todays game

WTF @ that...doesnt defend his case much :kader:

Good. I wanted him to get suspended will teach him a lesson to respect his bosses. He's not even the best player in MLS, and he's the highest paid :sb9: .

he's the highest paidWrong.

Yea, Donovan makes more. Maybe Eddie Johnson aswell.

if Adu is not playing is because he has not earned a spot in the team. Novak's job is to win, last yr they won the league, this yr they are doing well, he is not going to play Adu and mess that up.
Adu needs to suck it up and earn it. :boohoo:

Yea, Donovan makes more. Maybe Eddie Johnson aswell.
1. Francisco Palencia - $1,300,000 (going back to Chivas Mexico because they need him)
2. Juan Pablo Garcia - $1,000,000 (tie)
Eddie Johnson - $1,000,000 (tie)
4. Landon Donovan - $900,000
5. Freddy Adu - $500,000

DC, Kansas City, Revs, Rapids need to start planning now. I hate the idea of MLS teams playing in football stadiums.

The Revs don't really need their own stadium since they already own the one they plan in. The Revs alway been at the top at making profits, the only thing they have to do is get attendence up, but like alot of fans I don't go to games were our top players are stolen by the national team to end up being benched the whole game(MLS should follow FIFA calander).

The Revs dont own it by themselves. They play in a football stadium owned by the New England Patriots. I know its convenient for them to play there, but do you like seeing football lines?

And the only way to get attendance up is to build a soccer specific stadium.

The Revs rarly have any football line on the field just logos, they paint the lines after their game, and by next home game the lines are gone by mowing the grass or painting them green.

The Revs rarly have any football line on the fieldYou haven't been watching Rev games than.if Adu is not playing is because he has not earned a spot in the team. Novak's job is to win, last yr they won the league, this yr they are doing well, he is not going to play Adu and mess that up.
Adu needs to suck it up and earn it. :boohoo:Again, not true. The true reason that Adu is not playing is because Nowak has something against Adu; they don't get along.

This season Adu got benched every time he had a brilliant game. Have you even seen any D.C. United games this season?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102201364.html

What Adu did was wrong. But can we all agree that the D.C. United management have made things far worse than they should've been with their actions? Their so dead-set on punishing Adu and I'm not exactly sure why.

It's not like Adu is the first person in history to complain about playing time.

Nowak, what the hell are you doing?

Did England start off in 1905 with the EPL, Championship, 1st div, 2nd div, conference, 20 teams per division, with relegation and promotion?

No, but America's format could be better. 1 division of 12 teams, top 2 play-off. Bottom 2 go down and get replaced by a team that deserves to go up.

You haven't been watching Rev games than.Again, not true. The true reason that Adu is not playing is because Nowak has something against Adu; they don't get along.

This season Adu got benched every time he had a brilliant game. Have you even seen any D.C. United games this season?

let see.. DC won the league last season. And they are in the playoffs and finished 2nd in their conference this yr. I don't get your point. Obviously Novak thinks his team is better with Adu in the bench, that tells me that Adu is not earning it in practice. So unless you're there watching them practice daily.. :boohoo:

No, but America's format could be better. 1 division of 12 teams, top 2 play-off. Bottom 2 go down and get replaced by a team that deserves to go up.
The problem is, in America league structures are set up so that owners are guarenteed that their teams will stay in the top division of that particular sport. No American owner would be willing to accept the idea of his team being demoted to a "minor" league. Also, most of the lower-level teams have terrible facilities. In soccer, for example, some teams in leagues below MLS play in high school football stadiums. In England, I'm sure that some teams in the Championship get 25,000 fans a match. In America, most minor league soccer teams get maybe 1,000, if they are lucky, and promotion to MLS probably wouldn't increase it all that much.

I could say more, but the basic idea is that in American sports culture, teams are guarenteed their place in a specific league, no matter how poorly they play. I know it sucks, but we're stuck with it.

It does suck, keeps teams like the Clippers around. And they should be long gone. Krunk for NBA.

let see.. DC won the league last season. And they are in the playoffs and finished 2nd in their conference this yr. I don't get your point. Obviously Novak thinks his team is better with Adu in the bench, that tells me that Adu is not earning it in practice. So unless you're there watching them practice daily.. :boohoo:Adu isn't earning his place in practice.

He's earning them on the pitch during games. And ends up being benched, anyways. THAT is my point.